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Written Answers

Volume 65: debated on Thursday 23 July 1914

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Written Answers

Finance Act, 1910 (Valuations)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether it is the practice of the Commissioners of Inland Revenue, in making valuations under Section 25 of The Finance (1909–10) Act, 1910, to regard Sub-section (5) of that Section as excluding from such valuations the value of any right to obtain minerals?

I would refer the hon. Member to Section 23 (2) of the Act under which minerals are for purposes of valuation to be treated as a separate parcel of land.

asked whether there are instances in which the Commissioners of Inland Revenue, in making valuations under Section 25 of The Finance (1909–10) Act, 1910, have valued the land lower than they would otherwise have done because of the presence in it of minerals which are being worked or are likely to be worked; and, if so, whether the reason for taking that course is that the working of the minerals, or the prospect of their being worked, is considered as detracting from the value of the surface?

The answer to the first part of the question is in the affirmative. The question whether land falls to be valued lower than it would otherwise have been because of the presence in it of minerals which are being worked or likely to be worked depends upon many considerations, and the governing principles will shortly be raised before a referee.

Revenue Bill (Land Values)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether there is any connection between the rateable (or annual) rental value of land and the full site (or capital) value; and in what manner the former can properly be employed in the adjustment of the latter?

I cannot anticipate the debates upon the Revenue Bill of next Session.

Royal Irish Constabulary

asked the Chief Secretary for Ireland, how many men have left the Irish Constabulary Force since the 1st January last; and if he is now able to fix a definite date for the introduction of the promised Bill relating to that force.

The number of men who left the Royal Irish Constabulary during the period 1st January to 30th June last is as follows:—Pensioned, 122; Discharged on gratuity, 9; Resigned, 126; Dismissed or discharged for misconduct, 11. I hope to introduce the Bill at the earliest possible opportunity.

National School Teachers (Ireland)

asked the Chief Secretary what is the maximum salary which can be paid to an assistant teacher in an Irish national school in third grade and in second grade, respectively.

The Commissioners of National Education inform me that the maximum salaries of assistant teachers in the third grade are: men £93, and women £79 10s.; and in the second grade men £123 and women £103 10s. Assistant teachers may receive a maximum Grant in addition of £8 15s. from the residue of the School Grant under the Irish Education Act of 1892, and may also receive a portion of the fees for special subjects.

Labourers' Cottages (Ireland)

asked the Chief Secretary whether he is aware that Charles Carrigan, a labourer residing in the town-land of Clontymare, Kinglas electoral division, made application to the rural district council of Enniskillen in March, 1913, for a labourer's cottage and was refused on the ground that there were some vacant houses; and, seeing that no person could live in these houses, will he direct the Local Government Board to have a house built for this man?

The facts are as stated in the first part of the question. The Local Government Board have no power to comply with the suggestion made by the hon. Member. It is, however, open to Carrigan to represent all the circumstances of his case to the rural district council, with a view to their including a cottage for him in any new scheme they may propose to make under the Labourers Acts.

Dingle Pier And Harbour

asked the Chief Secretary for Ireland when it is intended to submit the scheme for improving Dingle pier and harbour to the local authority; and whether, seeing that this matter has already been delayed for a very long time, steps will be immediately taken to have it dealt with as soon as possible?

It is not possible to say at this stage when the plans for harbour improvements at Dingle, county Kerry, can be submitted to the local authority. There will be no unnecessary delay in laying the plans before the Dingle Harbour Commissioners as soon as they have been approved.

Land Purchase (Ireland)

asked the Chief Secretary for Ireland if he will state when the Estates Commissioners propose to proceed with building houses for the new allottees of farms on the Clonfin Thompson estate; and whether, in the case of one or two of these persons, the Commissioners would be prepared, in consideration of some pecuniary advance by the tenants themselves, to extend the dimensions and accommodation of the houses proposed to be erected for them?

The estate referred to has been acquired by the Estates Commissioners, and arrangements have been made for the erection of a dwelling for the evicted tenant, who is to be provided with a holding on the estate, and the existing buildings on the property will be converted into dwelling-houses for the purchasers. The reply to the latter part of the question is in the affirmative.

County Surveyors (Ireland)

asked by whom is the examination for county surveyors held; who are the examiners; by whom are they appointed and for what period; and what is their remuneration?

The examination of county surveyors (Ireland) is held under the direction of the Civil Service Commissioners. The examiners are not appointed for any period, but are selected by the Civil Service Commissioners on each occasion. The remuneration is not fixed, but varies according to the amount of work done on each occasion.

Royal Navy

Shore Appointments (Officers)

asked the First Lord of the Admiralty whether, owing to the limited number of the shore appointments for commissioned warrant officers and warrant officers, he will see that officers holding those appointments are promptly relieved so as to enable others to have an opportunity of serving on shore?

Unless there is some special reason for an extension of appointment, officers are at present relieved on the termination of their period of service on shore.

British Army

Household Cavalry (Medical Arrangements)

asked the Secretary of State for War the scope and character of the inquiry which has been instituted into the medical and hospital arrangements of the Household Cavalry; whether the inquiry has been completed; and whether the Report will be laid upon the Table of the House?

The inquiry was into the adequacy of the medical arrangements of the Household Cavalry, and is now complete. I cannot at present make any statement on the question of publication.

Payments For Discharge

asked the Secretary for War whether any decision has been come to as to the reducing of the payments exacted in the case of men leaving the Army Reserve to join the Navy?

The Army Council have decided that it is not desirable to reduce the payments for purchase of discharge in such cases.

Plain Clothes

asked the Secretary of State for War whether the effect of paragraph C of Southern Command Order, No. 404, dated 16th April, 1913, was to restrict the facilities previously enjoyed by non-commissioned officers below the rank of colour-sergeant and men of good character of obtaining permission to wear plain clothes when on pass at their stations; and whether, in view of the undertaking given by the late Secretary of State for War in this House on 1st July, 1913, that the restrictions in regard to the wearing of plain clothes in the Southern Command would be removed, he will consider the advisability of restoring to such non-commissioned officers and men the facilities enjoyed prior to April, 1913?

I do not think I can add anything to the answer I gave to the hon. Member on the 30th ultimo. It is not considered advisable to widen further the facilities for the wearing of plain clothes.

Cavalry Barracks, Windsor

asked the Secretary of State for War if any recent Report has been made on the sanitary condition of the Cavalry barracks at Windsor; can he state the nature of such Report; and, if no examination has recently been made, will he take the necessary steps to cause such examination to be carried out?

There has been no recent Report, and I have no reason to think that a special examination is required.

Southern Rhodesia (Ownership Of Land)

asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies whether a reference to the Privy Council is about to be made for consideration and report upon the ownership of land in Southern Rhodesia; and, if so, whether he will lay the terms of reference upon the Table?

India

Deaths From Diabetes

asked the Under-Secretary of State for India how many deaths per 1,000 occur annually from diabetes in India and in the province of Madras, respectively?

The figures are not available, as deaths from diabetes are not separately registered in India.

Slavery And Ransom

asked the Under-Secretary for India whether he is aware that the keeping of the King's subjects in a state of slavery is allowed in portions of British India and Burmah; and what steps the Government proposes to take to vindicate the right to freedom which is the birthright of British subjects?

asked whether Regulations of the Indian or Assam Governments exist in operation compelling slaves who have escaped into British from Abor territory to be returned to their owners, or to suffer imprisonment for six months, unless they pay a ransom of 60 rupees to secure their freedom; and whether the Government propose to cancel these Regulations?

The Secretary of State has no information of the existence of any such Regulations as are referred to in the question, but he will inquire.

also asked the Under-Secretary of State for India whether he is aware that Abors have been allowed to recapture, in British territory, bind, and forcibly carry back into slavery persons who had sought freedom by placing themselves under British rule; and what steps the Indian Government proposes to take to put an end to this state of things?

The Secretary of State is not aware of the fact alleged, but I can assure the hon. Member that any violation of the settled districts of British territory by Abors or others would be very seriously considered.

further asked the Under-Secretary for India whether he is aware that under the boi system existing among the Lushai tribes, whose country has been British territory for sixteen years, thousands of men, women, and children are slaves to their chiefs, and can only secure freedom by payment of ransom, which is practically impossible to children, women, and persons compelled to work without wages; and what steps the Government proposes to take to give to these tribesmen the status of free men?

I do not know the hon. Member's authority for estimating the number of bawi in the Lushai Hills at "thousands." Any bawi is able, under the principles lately adopted by the Assam Government in consultation with a conference of Welsh Calvanistic missionaries, either to leave the service of a chief and allow the latter to apply to the Courts for compensation or himself to appeal to the Courts to record an order that he is no longer a bawi. The maximum compensation payable to the chief in respect of an entire family is under £3 sterling, and is treated as an ordinary judgment debt. As has already been stated in the House, the whole position will be personally investigated very shortly by the Chief Commissioner of Assam.

next asked the Under-Secretary for India whether, in the Lakher or Mora clan, which is partly under British rule, the purchase and sale of slaves, not only by chiefs but by others, is permitted and recognised; and how long the Government proposes to legalise this traffic in human beings?

The Secretary of State has no reason to suppose that any recognition has been given by Government to the sale of slaves among such of the Lakher as reside in British territory, but if the hon. Member has information to the contrary, the Secretary of State will consider it.

next asked whether, seeing that the right to ransom is allowed and that ransom is impossible to slaves who have no property in their own earnings, except what their owners permit them to retain, the Indian Government will provide the small sum of 40 rupees per family necessary to emancipate slaves within their territory, or, if not, will he use for that purpose any sum subscribed, and thereafter make the holding of His Majesty's subjects in a state of bondage a penal offence?

If by "slaves" the hon. Member means "bawi" in the Lushai Hills, he is quite wrong in supposing that they have no property in their own earnings.

also asked whether and when the Report by the Indian Government on the boi system in the Lushai Hills will be laid upon the Table of the House?

I will place a copy of the Government of India's letter, with enclosures, in the Library. It is not proposed to present Papers at present.

asked the Under-Secretary for India whether the opinion of the Law Officers of the Crown has been obtained upon the principles published in the "Golenad," of 26th May, 1914, as modifying the boi system and making it unobjectionable; and, if not, whether their opinion will be obtained and communicated to the House before any official approval is given to those principles?

The Secretary of State has not considered it necessary to take the opinion of the Law Officers on the principles recently laid down by the Assam Government for dealing with the incidents of what is known as the "bawi" system of the Lushai Hills

Miners' Safety-Lamps

asked the Home Secretary if, in arriving at the standard for miners' safety-lamps, the test laid down by the Home Office at their testing station is not one of sensitiveness to detect gas, but if the lamp can with safety be used in gas; and, if so, what action is he prepared to take to ensure that miners' safety-lamps shall not only be safe instruments to be used in gas but possess the maximum capacity for detecting the presence of gas?

Yes, Sir. The purpose of the tests is to determine the safety of a lamp for use in gassy mines, and that is all, as I understand, that I have power under the Act to do. I may say, however, that the detection of gas by the "cap" on the flame does not depend on the design or construction of the lamp, but on the character of the flame, which again depends on the nature of the fuel burnt in the lamp.

Post Office

Bristol Office (Female Clerical Staff)

asked the Postmaster-General whether he is aware that the female clerical staff employed at the Bristol Post Office has been compelled to work overtime continuously for the past two years, and whether this condition of affairs exists at other centres throughout the country; and, if so, what steps does he propose to take to increase the staff so as to make normal hours of work possible?

Presumably the hon. Member refers to the telephone district manager's office at Bristol where, as a result of staff changes and an exceptional I amount of illness, overtime has been worked by the female clerical staff for I some time past. The staff has been increased and temporary assistance given, and it is hoped that the necessity for overtime will cease at an early date. The question of overtime in district managers' offices generally is receiving consideration.

asked the Postmaster-General, whether, in 1905, senior stores clerks under the National Telephone Company were performing the duties which are now carried out by third-class clerks in connection with the telephone service?

I have no information as to the precise importance of the duties performed by particular stores clerks under the National Telephone Company in 1905. At the time of the transfer to the Post Office some of the stores clerks were found to be employed on duties appropriate to third-class clerks; others on work proper to clerical assistants in the engineering department of the Post Office.

Counter Clerks And Telegraphists (S W District)

asked the Postmaster-General whether he is aware that certain fully qualified and competent counter clerks and telegraphists in the southwestern district of London are in danger of being passed over by an officer who has not been tested on any work other than writing duties; and whether, in order to lessen the possibility of favouritism, he will issue instructions that all the candidates must be tested in the various branches of the work, thereby ensuring consideration of the claims to promotion of those officers who possess the widest qualifications?

It is not the case that the promotion o£ a counter clerk and telegraphist who has not been tested on any work other than writing duties is in contemplation. The officer to whom the question is understood to refer has been tested on controlling as well as writing duties; and I am informed that he is not only fully qualified, but the best qualified of the eligible officers.

Telegraph Service

asked the Postmaster-General why no technical expert has been appointed on the committee to examine into the organisation of the telegraph service; whether he is aware that the heads of the telegraph services in Italy, Norway, Belgium, Denmark, and Bavaria are all engineers; that the telegraph service in Sweden is managed by a board of which an engineer is a member; and whether he can now add to the committee some engineer of repute and practical experience in telegraph work?

The committee is concerned more particularly with the commercial aspects of the Telegraph Service, and in the circumstances I did not think it necessary to appoint a technical expert as one of its members. If the committee desires information on any technical point it can, of course, readily be obtained. I may add that a separate committee—mainly composed of technical experts—is at present considering the question of high speed telegraphy—the principal technical problem of the Telegraph Service.

Housing Postmen

asked the Postmaster-General whether he-has yet concluded his inquiries as to the housing of the postman at Lower Hardres; and whether it is now proposed to allow the postman to live in Canterbury and to pay him on the scale proper to that city?

A revised arrangement under which Canterbury will be the starting point will be brought into operation on the 26th instant, and from that date the postman will receive the scale of pay proper to that city.

Sea Fisheries

asked the Secretary for Foreign Affairs whether he is in a position to report any progress in connection with negotiations for the conclusion of an international sea fisheries convention for the waters of the English Channel?

The meeting between a British and a French official announced in my reply to the hon. Member on 12th February last, duly took place, and I understand satisfactory progress was made. Further meetings have been arranged, at which I hope a final settlement will be reached.

Opium Conference

asked the Secretary for Foreign Affairs if he will lay upon the Table the Protocole de Cloture of the Third Opium Conference, which was signed by the plenipotentiaries of thirty Powers at The Hague on 25th June last; and whether Great Britain has yet ratified the Convention of 1912?

I will consider the question of laying the Protocol, with the Report of the British delegates to the Conference when I have received this Report and have had time to consider it. His Majesty's ratification of the Opium Convention was duly deposited on 15th July.