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Oral Answers To Questions

Volume 101: debated on Tuesday 22 January 1918

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War

Food Supplies

German Prisoners Of War

1.

asked the Under-Secretary of State for War if the potato ration issued to the German prisoners in this country has been increased from 2 oz. to 20 oz. per diem?

Yes, Sir; the change was made on the recommendation of the medical authorities. The extra potatoes are, of course, in substitution for other articles of food, which are less easily obtainable.

Does not my hon. Friend think that this increase in the ration is abnormally great and entirely out of proportion to the rations our people are getting in Germany?

As I have pointed out, there is no real increase in the general ration; it is merely substitution for other articles of food which are not so easily obtained.

How do these rations compare with what the Food Controller advises the ordinary person to take?

Wheat (United Kingdom)

42.

asked the President of the Board of Agriculture the acreage of wheat grown in the United Kingdom for 1916–17, specifying the acreage of winter- and spring-sown wheat respectively; and the acreage of winter wheat sown in 1917 and the estimated amount to be sown in the spring of 1918?

Wheat was grown in the United Kingdom in 1916–17 on 2,106,000 acres. In Great Britain the total was 1,979,000 acres, of which 200,000 acres were returned as spring-sown. The returns for Ireland do not distinguish winter-sown from spring-sown. No trustworthy figures can yet be given of the acreage of wheat sown, or intended to be sown, this season, but there is reason to believe that satisfactory progress is being made.

Sugar Production (British Empire)

59.

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether any decision has been arrived at to safeguard the production of sugar in the British Empire after the War; and whether British producers will receive an undertaking that Empire-grown sugar will be given a preference over sugar from Germany and Austria at the conclusion of hostilities?

I am not yet in a position to make a statement as to the policy of His Majesty's Government in regard to this matter.

Is not this a question which obviously requires a decision immediately, and is the right hon. Gentleman aware of the very great feeling that exists right through the British Empire on the subject, and that the Government have not yet stated whether or not British Empire sugar is going to have advantages over German or Austrian sugar after the War?

I am fully aware of the importance of the matter, but I cannot give an answer to-day.

Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that it is a year ago since I first asked the question?

Live Stock (Ireland)

52.

asked the Vice-President of the Department of Agriculture (Ireland) whether, in view of the exportation of live stock from Ireland, he will consider the advisability of having a census taken of cattle, sheep, pigs, and horses; and whether he can state the Regulations made and enforced to safeguard the average numbers of live stock for breeding purposes so as to keep up the supply?

The Department of Agriculture do not consider it necessary or advisable at present to put farmers and the police to the trouble of taking a special live stock census, as suggested. Sufficient statistics are being obtained by the Department under existing arrangements to enable the changes in the numbers of live stock in Ireland to be carefully observed.

By Orders under the Maintenance of Live Stock Act, 1915, the Department have prohibited, or restricted, the slaughter or exportation of the following classes of live stock, with a view to the future requirements of the country: Young calves of either sex, young heifers up to a certain stage of development, mulch cows, in-calf cows and heifers, and breeding sows. The Orders are still in force, and the whole question is receiving careful attention.

Sugar Candy (Bee-Keeping)

41.

asked the President of the Board of Agriculture whether his attention has been called to the price of sugar candy for bee-keeping; and whether he will consider the advisability of fixing the price of such sugar so as to encourage the production of honey and prevent the decrease of this food?

I have been asked to reply. The answer to this question was printed in the OFFICIAL REPORT of Thursday, 17th instant.

Can the hon. Gentleman say why the price is so very high—more than double the price of ordinary sugar—and what there is in this sugar candy which makes it so costly?

I can only say that the answer to the question shows that the candy is sold practically without profit.

Race Meetings (Corn Rations)

48.

asked the Prime Minister whether he is aware of the number of race meetings advertised to take place in the coming months; that such meetings are causing misgiving in the public mind that corn rations used for race-horses may be needed for human food; whether he proposes to take any action in the matter?

I cannot usefully add anything to the reply which was given by the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Food to a similar question by my right hon. Friend on the 16th of January, and to the various answers which I gave to the supplementary questions following.

The subject has not been brought before the Cabinet in any way. I shall bring what has been said by my right hon. Friend and others to the notice of the Cabinet.

Sugar

70.

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Food whether ships homeward bound from the West Indies in the last year have sailed light; and whether there is any scarcity of sugar for export in the West Indies?

The information asked for in the first part of the question should be obtained from the Ministry of Shipping. As the bulk of the new crop is not yet available for export the quantity of sugar awaiting shipment in the West Indies is at present small.

Are we to understand that the Ministry of Food cannot get information from the Ministry of Shipping?

71.

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Food whether the passengers on board a homeward-bound steamer from East and South Africa when arriving at Plymouth were compelled to throw all supplies of sugar in their possession overboard; whether any instructions exist to enforce this order; and what action he proposes to take?

The Customs Regulations, which are framed to carry out the wishes of the Sugar Commission, require that sugar imported by passengers without licence in quantities exceeding 1 lb. is to be seized and sold for the benefit of the community at large. I hesitate to believe, on the strength of the newspaper extract with which my hon. and gallant Friend has furnished me, that passengers on any ship have thrown considerable supplies of sugar overboard. There is certainly no ground for the suggestion that-they were compelled to do so.

Will the right hon. Gentleman make inquiries into the case if I send him the name and address?

Is it the case that members of the mercantile marine who have brought in small quantities of sugar have had it taken away, and what is the object of it?

I suppose the object is to carry out the decision of the Food Controller that no one shall have more than a certain quantity of sugar.

The answer I have given states that the sugar so seized shall be distributed over the general community.

Prisoners Of War And Conscientious Objectors

72.

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Food whether contracts for the supply of provisions to German prisoners of war and British conscientious objectors, and the like persons under restraint, are en-forcible, though they entail the supply of food to such prisoners and objectors at prices below ruling market or officially fixed rates to the prejudice of loyal British subjects, or whether any steps can be taken under the Defence of the Realm Act to render void any stipulation as to price contained in such contracts?

Contracts for supplies for the purposes mentioned in the question are in the same category as other contracts. In Orders relating to prices the Food Controller does not interfere with contracts where the price is less than the maximum price.

In that case would it not be possible for persons of this category to lie receiving stores—food and beef—at far lower prices than the public who are paying?

In so far as the public pay for these supplies it is clearly to their advantage that prices should be as low as possible.

Cost Of Living

73.

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Food whether he will take immediate steps to make generally known throughout the United Kingdom the fact that the Board of Trade's calculation that the cost of living has increased 105 per cent, since the War began is subject to such drastic qualifications that the figure might with equal accuracy be given as 59 per cent.; and whether the Ministry of Food intends to await the result of an examination of the figures by a Special Committee not yet appointed before correcting or explaining the true signification of figures upon which action of high financial and economic significance has in no small measure been based?

The article in the "Labour Gazette" which contains the estimate as to a rise in retail prices stated at 105 per cent. contains also the qualifying paragraph which was quoted in my answer of 16th January. Moreover, I would point out that the article in question is not headed "Cost of Living," but "Course of Retail Prices of Food," and that the paragraph in which considerations affecting changes in the cost of food expenditure are introduced is that in which the rise of 59 per cent. is referred to. It is to be regretted that so little attention has been given to this important paragraph, but I do not see what further publicity can be given.

Butter (Prohibition Of Irish Exports)

74.

asked upon what ascertained facts the Ministry decided to prohibit the export of butter from Ireland to Great Britain; and, particularly, if it is considered there is a shortage of butter in Ireland, what is the extent of the estimated shortage and by what means has it been estimated?

It has been necessary, in order to effect economies in transport, to arrange that Ireland should not receive supplies of foreign and colonial butter, but should satisfy her requirements from her own production. At the same time, the output of Irish home made butter, as has been ascertained by means of returns received from creameries, falls short by 30 per cent. of the normal supplies in winter months. An Order prohibiting for the present the export of butter from Ireland has, therefore, been issued by the Food Controller on the advice of the Food Control Committee for Ireland, after consultation with,the Department of Agriculture and Technical Instruction for Ireland.

Is the hon. Gentleman mot aware that a considerable amount of butter is being sent from Ireland by parcel post, and are any steps being taken to deal with that?

The answer I have given shown that the Food Controller has prohibited the export of butter from Ireland, and I presume that the point raised by the hon. Member will be dealt with.

Will this matter be reconsidered, in view of the fact that the shortage in England is so much greater than in Ireland?

Is the hon. Member aware of the serious effect which this Order will have upon the most important butter industry in Ireland? Is he aware that many firms have had to give up their trade, and will not get it back, and is he satisfied that the Irish people can afford to pay the price of this butter?

I presume that the Ministry of Food is acting in consultation with the Irish Food Controller, and is endeavouring to see that the Irish population shall not go short of a necessary article of food simply because the English population are richer than the Irish population.

Would it not be possible to release butter from private dairies in Ireland the owners of whom and their families are in England doing war work, and have been in the habit of getting it over, neither butter nor milk being sold in Ireland from those dairies?

My answer must stand; but I will convey what the hon. Member says to the Ministry of Food.

Meat Consumption (United Kingdom)

75.

asked the amount of meat per head consumed in the United Kingdom for the six months ending 31st December; whether it was in excess of the recommended ration and, if so, by how much and what is the estimated amount of meat per head available from Home sources for the first six months of 1918?

The estimated consumption of meat of all kinds by the civilian population of the United Kingdom for the six months ended 31st December was 2 lbs. per head per week. This was about 8 per cent. in excess of the maximum quantity based on the voluntary ration of 2 lbs. per week for adults, with smaller quantities for children. In reply to the last part of the question it may be stated that any estimate of the meat supplies available for the first half of the Present year must be very tentative, but the information available indicates a considerable reduction On the rate of consumption in the second half of last year.

Can the Food Controller give us some idea of the amount of meat in this country—home-produced meat—for consumption during the next six months?

I have not the figures before me, but if the hon. Member will put down a question I will endeavour to obtain the information.

Will the hon. Gentleman use his influence with the newspapers to stop their panic headlines, which do much to encourage the enemy?

I am afraid I cannot influence the newspapers in this country, but I am sure that Lord Rhondda is doing all he can to get the newspapers to support him in his arduous task.

Military Service

Women And Military Law

2.

asked the Under-Secretary of State for War whether women who are engaged in work in France connected with the Army are subject to military law; whether, when charges are made by the military authorities against a woman that woman has any right to demand an investigation corresponding to the right and duty imposed upon officers under paragraph 446 of the King's Regulations; and whether he will consider the desirability of according this privilege to women working for the Army in France?

The conditions under which camp followers may be dealt with under military law will be found by reference to Sections 176 (10) and 184 (1) of the Army Act. No such right exists as is mentioned by my hon. Friend, and there is no intention of granting any such privilege to camp followers, who are merely permitted to accompany an army in the field at the will of the Commander-in-Chief.

I do not, of course, refer to enrolled members of the Women's Army Auxiliary Corps serving in the field, whose conditions are totally different, and to whom are accorded privileges and advantages which officers and men of the British Army now possess.

Time-Expired Men (Discharge)

11.

asked the Under-Secretary of State for War whether he observed a decision given by the Lambeth Tribunal on 28th December, in which it was agreed that a discharged man who had served overseas could not be compulsorily posted under the Military Service (Review of Exceptions) Act; and whether he now proposes to discharge all time-expired men recalled on the basis of service irrespective of wounds?

:I am not aware of the decision referred to. Perhaps my hon. Friend would consult the Minister of National Service, but I know of no recent alteration in the conditions of discharge.

Fighting Units (Winter At Home)

12.

asked whether it is proposed to give all fighting units who went through the 1914–15 winter at the front the opportunity of spending the present winter at home?

I am afraid that this is not possible, in view of the present state of the man-power question.

Is the hon. Gentleman prepared to give no consideration whatsoever to the men who have been serving?

Live-Stock Commissioner (Scotland)

14 and 15.

asked the Under-Secretary of State for War (1) for what reason Mr. P. M'Dougall was exempted from military service; whether the reason was that his services were urgently required on his farm; if so, since he has subsequently been given a Government appointment as commissioner for live-stock in Scotland at £1,000 a year, and is therefore not required for his farm, his exemption will be cancelled; whether the War Office was a party at any stage to the grant of such exemption; (2) if he is aware that five out of the six sub-commissioners for live-stock in Scotland, who are paid £500 a year, are of military age; will he say why such as are of that age have been exempted; whether other persons not of military age and capable of performing their duties cannot be found in Scotland; whether such live-stock sub-commissioners as are of military Age will be forthwith drafted into the Army; and whether the War Office was A party at any stage to the exemptions granted?

The appointments apparently referred to by the hon. Member are proposed by the Ministry of Food in connection with the Live-stock Scheme, and, as they affect men of military age, they have been referred for the concurrence of the Ministry of National Service, which has not yet been given. I understand that the men selected already hold tribunal exemptions as farmers, and that these are still current. I have suggested to the Ministry of Food that, before the appointments are confirmed, further inquiries should be made and, in particular, that the local agricultural committees should be consulted, if this has not already been done, in order to ascertain whether suitable men over military age cannot be found to fill these appointments.

Am I to understand that the exemptions of these gentlemen are at present under suspense, and that the Ministry of Food, so far as it is concerned, will not ask that they shall be confirmed?

I do not think the hon. Member quite understands the position. These men have been exempted as individuals by the tribunals, and those exemptions are still current. It is now proposed to employ them by the Ministry of Food in an official capacity, and such applications must come to the Ministry of National Service, and they are being considered.

Were these men not exempted because they had some agricultural value, and as soon as that value ceases should not these exemptions be cancelled?

Does the hon. Member not see that a man who cannot leave his farm to go and fight, but can leave it to draw £1,000 a year is a man whose exemption should be at once cancelled?

If my hon. Friend will read my answer he will see that those facts are being fully borne in mind, and at the present moment the Minister of National Service has not given the necessary authority to employ these men as Government officials.

Is the hon. Gentleman aware that a farmer with £15,000 capital has had all his labourers taken away, the sole man left having got up to colour-sergeant after serving seven years, while other men have been refused exemption after years of service?

Has not the gentleman mentioned in the question already been employed for very many months?

He is certainly not employed by the Ministry of National Service, and we have written asking if he cannot be replaced by a man who is not of military age.

Has the Minister of National Service to ask for permission or does he order a man from another Department?

The hon. Member cannot really have been listening to what I have said. I said that no man could be employed in the Government service of military age without the consent of the Ministry of National Service.

38.

asked the Secretary for Scotland Whether he was consulted at any stage regarding the exemptions granted to Mr. P. M'Dougall, Commissioner of Live-stock for Scotland, and to his six sub-commissioners, of whom five are believed to be, like himself, of military age; and whether he was a party in any way to the appointment of these gentlemen of military age to the offices they now hold it salaries of £1,000 and £500 a year respectively?

The answer to both parts of the question is in the negative. For the facts as to Mr. M'Dougall's exemption I beg to refer my hon. Friend to the answers given him by the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Food on the 16th instant, and also. by the Minister of National Service of to-day.

Does it not fall within the right hon. Gentleman's duties as Secretary for Scotland to terminate what is practically a scandal and a rock of offence in and out of Scotland?

I have informed my hon. Friend that my Department has no responsibility in this matter.

Was it not stated in a previous answer given by the Ministry of Food that the Board of Agriculture in Scotland was consulted about these appointments before they were made; and, if so, is the right hon. Gentleman's answer to-day consistent with that fact?

I think my hon. and learned Friend is mistaken. I made special inquiry, and the Board of Agriculture, according to my information, were not consulted.

Is it correct, then, to say that they were not consulted in any way before the appointments were made?

The question put to me was whether I was consulted regarding -the exemptions, and the answer to that question is in the negative. The answer with regard to the Board of Agriculture on that point is also in the negative.

Would the right hon. Gentleman answer the second part of the -question relating to the appointments and not to the exemptions—that is the part to which I am referring?

According to my information, the Board of Agriculture was not consulted, and certainly I was not consulted.

Conscientious Objectors

34.

asked the Home Secretary what information he has of the state of health of a conscientious objector named Eagle, now detained in Maidstone Prison; whether this man has been on work strike for a considerable period; whether he is in a dying condition owing to disciplinary and dietetic punishments; and whether he will be released before fatal consequences ensue?

This man is in good health, and there appears to be no ground whatever for the suggestion that his health has been injured by disciplinary and dietetic punishments. He has been punished on four occasions during the last two months for refusing to work, but the punishments awarded were of a very moderate kind.

Is not the right hon. Gentleman aware that we often get the statement that men are in good health and subsequently we find that they have collapsed and even died?

35.

asked the Home Secretary on whose authority the conscientious objectors at Princetown have been allowed to hire a cottage for use as a kind of club; whether this hostel, as the conscientious objectors call it, is a hotbed of revolutionary propaganda; and will he cause inquiries to be made with a view to the closing down of this establishment?

I understand that a building in Princetown called "The Friends? Hostel" is rented by a committee of the Society of Friends, and is open to conscientious objectors while out on leave. No meetings of any political organisation have been held on the premises, and no literature other than books or magazines of general interest is sold or distributed. A meeting for worship is held every Sunday evening. As at present advised, I see no ground for interference.

Is it not a rule of the Home Office that no propaganda whatever shall take place in Princetown, and that no rooms shall be used for the purpose; and, if so, why is this room used?

I have explained to the hon. Member in my answer that this room is not being used for propaganda purposes.

36.

asked the Home Secretary why the programme used by the conscientious objectors at Prince town at the concert they gave on the Thursday after Christmas Day in the Wesleyan church bore no printer's name; and, having regard to the statutory provisions in such matter, what steps he proposes to take in the matter?

I am advised that the statutory provisions do not apply to a document of this kind.

Is it not a fact that there were several pamphlets printed and that they had no printer's name upon them; is it to be supposed that these things are printed in the prison; and will the right hon. Gentleman say whether the conscientious objectors have free access to the prison press?

37.

asked the Home Secretary whether several hundred- weights of dried fruit were supplied to the conscientious objectors at Princetown for Christmas, while other people in the vicinity and elsewhere had to go short; that 150 tons of coal a month are provided for consumption in the private gas plant in the prison, and this when ordinary citizens have to ration themselves to meet the calls of patriotism; why these men who have refused to defend their country against the enemy, and have left that task to their neighbours, are allowed to receive this preferential treatment; and why numbers of turkeys and geese were permitted to be consumed by these men at Christmas, seeing that food was and is so scarce a commodity that many people had and still have to go without?

Dried fruit is part of the regular dietary at Princetown, but the amount consumed in the last three months of 1917 was less than 1 lb. per head. The consumption of coal for gas is 105 tons a month, which furnishes the supply not only of the prison building, with 1,200 inmates, but also of other Government buildings in Princetown. No turkeys or geese were supplied to or eaten by the men in the work centre, but possibly some of them dined at Christmas with their friends outside. The Committee is consulting the Ministry of Food on the question of the purchase of food by these men outside their rations.

Does the right hon. Gentleman deny that several hundredweight of dried fruit were taken into the prison during Christmas week?

Conscripted Men, Maidstone

56.

asked the Minister of National Service whether he is aware that a married man with five children, J. Dloogatz, R.D.R., Maidstone, who has for years suffered from tuberculosis, been in two sanatoria, and was recently a patient at Victoria Park Chest Hospital, where he was warned against sleeping in the same room as other persons, has been taken into the Army, and has for two weeks been sleeping on a cement floor with a crowd of men at Maidstone; and whether, to prevent the spread of tuberculosis, this man will be immediately discharged?

I am having inquiries made into the matters referred to in the first part of the hon. Member's question. I think that the points raised in the remainder of the question should be addressed by my hon. Friend to the Under-Secretary of State for War.

Is the hon. Gentleman not aware that there are a great number of scandals and that there has been a great deal of newspaper comment on the conditions at that place?

Women's Army Auxiliary Corps (Insurance)

10.

asked the Under-Secretary of State for War why members of the Women's Army Auxiliary Corps serving abroad are suspended from insurance and have to make good their arrears on resuming work in the United Kingdom?

It has been decided to make good these arrears in future.

Air Raids In Germany

British And French Prisoners Of War

9.

asked the Under-Secretary of State for War whether he has any information to the effect that hundreds of British and French officers, prisoners of war, have been sent to Stuttgart or other places in order to be subjected to air raids; and whether he will consider the desirability of sending German officers, prisoners of war, from Donington Hall and elsewhere to London or other places where they will be subject to the risk of German air raids on noncombatants and women and children, and of utilising Donington Hall as a hospital for our wounded soldiers?

Inquiries are being made as to the establishment of camps for prisoners of war in Germany in places particularly liable to air raids.

Do I understand my hon. Friend to say that inquiries are being made as to prisoners of war in this country?

No; I did not intend to convey that. I do not think my hon. Friend can take any other than the answer I?have given. We are trying to substantiate certain rumours which have reached us as to the placing of our prisoners of war in air-raided parts of Germany.

Can the hon. Gentleman state now that, if we discover this to be so, we shall act by way of reprisals?

I think the Air Minister has already made a definite statement upon that point.

East Africa (Operations)

13.

asked the Under-Secretary of State for War whether, considering that the dispatches of General Smuts and General Hoskins regarding the operations in East Africa have been published, the time has now arrived when the dispatches of General Tighe regarding the operations during the preceding year can also be published?

There are three reports by General Tighe, which are presumably those alluded to. Each deals with a brief and minor phase of the earlier operations in East Africa, and, as such, were not regarded by the late Lord Kitchener, when Secretary of State for War, as suitable for publication. In view of the subsequent scope of the campaign—which has been described fully in the dispatches of General Smuts and General Hoskins—there seems no reason to revise this decision. All recommendations for honours and awards contained in General Tighe's reports, and in the many similar reports relating to these early phases of the War in Africa, have long since been considered and suitably treated. No officer or man, therefore, suffers by their non-publication. To select General Tighe's reports for publication would involve an invidious distinction between them and the numerous other reports mentioned. The good preparatory work done in East Africa by General Tighe has been cordially acknowledged in General Smuts? first published dispatch.

Is the hon. Gentleman not aware that officers and men who were engaged in all these operations during the first two years feel aggrieved that there has been no account of the operations published? Will he kindly issue a dispatch describing them?

I am afraid I cannot add anything to the answer I have given. The matter has been carefully considered.

Lady Angela Forbes

3.

asked the Under-Secretary of State for War whether he is aware that Lady Angela Forbes at the beginning of the War established a canteen at Etaples; that she has since that date laboured unremittingly for the benefit of British soldiers in France; and that she has recently received orders to close her canteen; whether the military authorities make any charges against Lady Angela Forbes; and, if so, whether she will be given an opportunity of being heard in her own defence?

Lady Angela Forbes established a canteen at Etaples at the beginning of the War, and did useful work. Complaints were made from various sources, and the Field-Marshal Commanding-in-Chief decided that it was inadvisable that she should continue her work there. This decision has been upheld by the Army Council.

Is my hon. Friend aware that on 11th October the Secretary of State for War gave a promise in writing to Lady Angela Forbes that she should be heard in her own defence? Is he aware that this opportunity has not been given to her; that she has been given no opportunity of hearing the evidence against her, of giving evidence herself, or of calling witnesses on her own behalf; and what is the explanation that the promise of the Secretary of Stat3 has not been carried out?

From the supplementary question of my hon. Friend the House might be led to assume that Lady Angela Forbes was promised a Court of Inquiry which has not been granted even to soldiers. The Secretary of State promised no such thing. He said that she would be heard in her own defence As a matter of fact, Lady Angela Forbes had an opportunity of being heard in her own defence in the sense in which the Secretary of State meant. She had an interview, on the Secretary of State's instructions, with the Adjutant-General in France, when certain complaints, not formulated into charges, were made against her. She had then the opportunity of stating her defence, if she wished to do so.

Arising out of that reply, is my lion. Friend aware that this interview—if it was considered to be an investigation—was an absolute farce, and a traversty of justice; that no evidence was produced against Lady Angela Forbes, that she was not asked what was her defence, and that she has had no opportunity up till now of stating her own case?

As I have pointed out, she had the opportunity of saying what she had to say in her own defence. The Field-Marshal Commanding-in-Chief asked the Adjutant-General to make all inquiries and a thorough investigation. It was after this investigation that the interview promised to Lady Angela Forbes took place. It was only after he was satisfied that that investigation had been held that the Field-Marshal Commanding-in-Chief made up his mind—and the Army Council subsequently agreed with him—that Lady Angela Forbes should no longer continue in her work.

May we assume that there have been no complaints from soldiers themselves as to the conduct of this canteen?

Not necessarily. If my hon. Friend presses me, there are other complaints.

Soldiers' Leave

16.

asked the Under-Secretary of State for War if he is aware that soldiers home on leave reaching Exeter after seven o'clock on Saturday night cannot, owing to lack of train accommodation, reach their homes in North Devon until Monday morning unless conveyed by motor vehicles; whether he is aware that free petrol for this purpose has been refused by the military authorities and a request to have petrol supplied by payment has been ignored, consequently men home for a short respite from France will have to hang about Exeter for thirty-six to forty hours unless petrol is obtainable; and will petrol therefore be made available for the purpose of getting men to their homes at the earliest moment?

In view of the drastic restrictions on petrol I am afraid that it is not possible to grant this concession without raising similar claims all over the country. I would suggest to my right hon. Friend that a solution might be found in the fitting of some of the vehicles to consume gas.

Is the lion. Gentleman aware that these soldiers offered voluntarily to pay for the petrol, and surely the military authorities should be allowed to provide petrol under those circumstances?

Similar cases have occurred in that part of Scotland with which I am connected.

Does the hon. Gentleman not think that the awkward position these men find themselves in constitutes a very good reason why an extension of leave should be made in their case?

In all reasonable cases of delay the War Office is always anxious to give further leave if possible.

Is the hon. Member aware that soldiers on leave in Bangor cannot stay until Monday morning without their leave being extended by two days?

Welsh Division (Command)

17.

asked the Under-Secretary of State for War whether he can say if any and, if so, how many of those in command of battalions in the Welsh Division are Welshmen; and whether the officers recently appointed have during the last three years had actual experience of leading troops in battle?

This information can only be obtained from the military authorities in France, and I am reluctant to add to their labours by inquiring, unless my right hon. Friend presses the matter.

I covered that point in my answer, but if the hon. Member insists upon adding to the already heavy labours of the people at the front in France I will inquire again.

Does he not think these questions are suggested by those who know what is going on at the front, and surely this is a matter of some consequence not only to the men themselves, but also to the country?

My hon. Friend is not now seeking information, but he is supplying it.

With regard to the percentage of Welshmen, will the hon. Gentlemen supply the figures?

Venereal Poisons (British Troops)

18.

asked whether it is proposed to take any further steps to stop the spread of infection by venereal poisons among British troops; whether there is any Army Order which forbids or discourages the necessary prophylactic medical measures; and whether it is proposed to issue an Army Order instructing Army medical officers of superior rank to take the necessary action as a part of their regular medical duties?

There is no Army Order authorising the use of such preventives or forbidding them. The answer to the last part of the question is in the negative.

Does the hon. Gentleman not think that the time has arrived when the prejudices of purists in morality should no longer be allowed to diminish the effective man-power of the Army?

I think my hon. Friend would be the first to recognise that this is really a national question and not so much a military question.

Brigadiers (Seniority)

19.

asked whether a brigadier appointed to command a brigade in 1917 or 1918 becomes senior in the field to a brigadier whose appointment dates from 1914, 1915, or 1916, if the former was senior to the latter in the Army List prior to the War; and, if not, when the alteration was made in the Regulation affecting such seniority?

Brigadiers rank according to their substantive rank, and not according to the date of their appointment. This Regulation was in force several years before the outbreak of war.

Does the hon. Gentleman not think that the time has come to reconsider this question?

Is it not a fact that if brigadiers did not rank according to their substantive rank, those who come home wounded would lose their seniority on receiving fresh appointments?

That is so. With regard to my hon. and gallant Friend's question, this subject has been considered quite recently.

Army Ordnance Workers (Dublin)

21.

asked when the Army Ordnance workers in Dublin may expect an increase in wages?

I am waiting for further information from the Irish Command, and I hope to be able to announce a decision shortly.

Colonial Troops (Gallipoli)

22.

asked whether any decision has yet been arrived at with reference to the issue of a medal or decoration to Imperial or Colonial troops in connection with the operations in Gallipoli?

This matter is receiving sympathetic consideration by the Imperial and Dominion Governments, but no conclusion has been reached.

Is it not a fact that a month ago I was informed that this matter was receiving sympathetic consideration, and could he say when a decision is likely to be arrived at?

That is perfectly true, but it is an extremely difficult question, involving a good deal of interviews and correspondence with the various Governments concerned. It also raises a very delicate point. I promise my hon. and gallant Friend that I will communicate with him when I get the information.

Is there any precedent for the issue of a decoration or medal for a campaign of this kind, which cannot be said to have resulted in victory?

Soldiers (Parliamentary Candidates)

23.

asked whether soldiers serving with the Colours are allowed to belong to a political party or to attend political meetings; whether a soldier if adopted as a Parliamentary candidate would be allowed to take any steps to further his candidature; and, in view of the entirely changed character of the present Army, whether the War Office intend to take steps to modify or abolish the old restrictions?

The War Cabinet, as I stated in an answer to a question by my hon. Friend the Member for Stirling Burghs on 8th August last, have decided that paragraph 451 of the King's Regulations is to be strictly and impartially enforced; but if an election is pending and a soldier is adopted as a candidate, special furlough would be granted to him to promote his candidature.

Does the hon. Gentleman not realise that his answer means that no officer or man at present serving in the Army can be adopted as a prospective candidate; cannot some exceptions be made?

That is not the case; because there is an officer at the present moment who has been adopted as a candidate for one of the divisions of Lancashire (Prestwich) represented by the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster.

Is it possible for the Secretary for War to stand as a candidate, while if a man wishes to stand as an independent candidate to oppose a Government nominee he cannot get permission?

I hope my hon. Friend will do me the honour of reading to-morrow the answer which I have given.

An election may be pending at any moment. There is one pending now in which an officer is a candidate.

Does the hon. Member mean adopted by a political party or by a constituency?

In the event of it being desired to adopt an officer or a soldier as a prospective candidate, will he be permitted, when on leave, to go before an association?

I think that point is covered by the answer which I have given: I am assuming that an officer or a man would not seek to take part in polities unless it were absolutely necessary, and I think the fairest of all ways of getting out of a very difficult situation is to say that an officer or a man, if an election is pending, shall be allowed to get the necessary leave and facilities for pursuing his candidature.

Chelsea Barracks (Death Of Private Davey)

24.

asked the Under-Secretary of State for War whether he has obtained the report as to the circumstances in which Private Charles Francis Davey, Reserve Battalion, Grenadier Guards, was found with his throat cut at Chelsea Barracks on 28th December; whether he is aware that this soldier, on complaining to the medical officer of illness, was charged with malingering, given two days' C.B., including, in breach of the King's Regulations, two hours at a stretch punishment drill; whether he is aware that Dr. Spilsbury certified at the inquest that this soldier suffered from disease of the heart muscle, fatty degeneration, and atrophy; why, in view of this verdict, the man was punished for pleading illness; and what action it is intended to take in respect of the medical officer in charge of Chelsea Barracks who signed the order for the man's punishment?

I have just received a report from the commanding officer, which is now being considered.

National Registration (Amendment) Bill

25.

asked the Under-Secretary of State for War to what practical extent, in view of the limitations in its operation announced by the Government and assuming that the National Registration (Amendment) Bill now before the House passes into law, soldiers holding discharge papers ex facie final are liable to be medically re-examined and recalled to active service?

My hon. Friend has asked me to reply. The National Registration (Amendment) Bill does not in any way affect the liability of discharged soldiers to be medically re-examined or recalled to active service. As my right hon. Friend the Minister of National Service stated in his speech to this House on the 14th January:

"This is not designed to make them more available for Military Service, to make it easier to provide them with work of National Importance."
As regards men who have served in the Navy or Army and who have been discharged on the ground of disablement or ill-health, I would refer my hon. Friend to the important answer which I gave yesterday to the hon. Member for East Edinburgh.

Receiving Depot, Dublin

27.

asked the Financial Secretary to the War Office what progress has been made towards establishing the temporary examining and receiving depot in Dublin; and whether he has received a resolution from the St. Patrick's Division United Irish League executive asking that the depot shall be put into operation at once?

The premises of the Dunlop Rubber Company have been selected, and the necessary steps are being taken to adapt them as a receiving depot. I have not received the resolution to which the hon. Member refers.

Naval And Military Pensions And Grants

28.

asked the Financial Secretary to the War Office whether, in the event of the death of a soldier who has not received his increased pay, his representatives will be entitled to get it?

If a man who has not declared that he desires to reduce his allotment by the amount of the concession becomes a casualty, mill the separation allowance for twenty-six weeks after his death be increased by the amount of the concession?

32.

asked the Financial Secretary to the War Office whether it is to be understood that no alterations will be made in any grants already allocated by the Civil Liabilities Committee to officers, non-commissioned officers, and men, and thus minimise the value of the recent concessions in pay and allowances?

Kut-Al-Amarah (Compensation For Officers' Losses)

30.

asked the Financial Secretary to the War Office whether compensation to officers for chargers slaughtered for food and kit lost or destroyed during the siege of Kut-al-Amarah, in Mesopotamia, will be paid by the War Office or the Government of India?

Army Pay (Compulsory Reductions)

31.

asked the Financial Secretary to the War Office whether, in view of the recent increases of pay and allowances to the Army, he will now bring forward such amendments to Section 145 of the Army Act as will enable an adequate sum to be compulsorily deducted for the support of deserted wives and illegitimate children?

Does the right hon. Gentleman consider that 6d. a day is enough in these times for a wife to live on?

I am asked whether or not I will bring forward an amendment of Section 145 of the Army Act, and I say the answer is in the negative.

Is not the right hon. Gentleman aware that this Section allows only 6d. a day to be deducted from a man's pay in order to support a wife, and is not the Government prepared to take any steps in the matter?

School Teachers (Scotland)

39.

asked the Secretary for Scotland whether payment has yet been made to all the school teachers under the school boards, and also in the voluntary schools in Scotland, of the increases in salary allocated under the recent Grant?

I have no precise information at present as to the number of cases in which the increases of salary have been paid to teachers. It may, however, be assumed that payment has been made or will be made forthwith wherever the scheme for the allocation of the Grant has received the approval of the Scotch Education Department. Such approval has been given to the proposals of nearly 700 bodies of managers and the outstanding schemes are being dealt with as expeditiously as possible.

Will the hon. Gentleman say whether the school board teachers and the voluntary school teachers are to be treated in precisely the same way so far as this increase is concerned?

Government Ordnance Workers (Ireland)

40.

asked the President of the Board of Agriculture whether the Government ordnance workers in Ireland receive 29s. per week whilst men in Woolwich are paid 47s.; whether he will have this inequality remedied; and whether it is intended to have the Ordnance Survey of Ireland placed under the Department of Agriculture and Technical Instruction in Ireland?

The civil assistants and labourers of the Ordnance Survey are employed in the production of the national maps and are not concerned in the manufacture of ordnance. Their work is of a totally different nature from that of the workmen in the Royal Arsenal at Woolwich. There is only one man now working on the Ordnance Survey in Ireland whose nominal six-day pay is less than 30s. He is a night watchman, who receives 27s. a week for six days, plus 4s. 6d. for each Sunday, plus 14s. war bonus. His total weekly pay is thus 45s. 6d. The answer to the latter part of the question is in the negative.

British Trade Overseas

44.

asked the Under-Secretary of State for the Colonies if the Joint Committee for Furtherance of British Trade Overseas will consider the advisability of adding to its number a representative or representatives of the commercial travellers of Great Britain and Ireland, also co-opting representative commercial travellers in His Majesty's Dominions and Dependencies Overseas, whose expert knowledge of the art of salesmanship would add greatly to the usefulness of the Committee in question; if so, when this will be done; and, if not, will he state the reason?

I presume that the question asked by my hon. Friend relates to the Advisory Committee to the new Joint Department of Overseas Trade (Development of Intelligence). It is intended that this Committee shall represent as fully as possible the various British industrial, commercial, and financial interests concerned with overseas trade. My hon. Friend will, I am sure, recognise that the number of members of the Committee must be limited, so as to secure efficient and practical working, and. in view of the numerous interests to be taken into account, it is impossible at the present time to give any definite undertaking as to the separate representation of any particular class.

Surely there should be some better reason for the exclusion of a class so closely related to trade than mere numbers. Will the right hon. Gentleman answer the question whether the Committee will consider the advisability of including some representation of commercial travellers?

Certainly we will consider the advisability, and, in any case, the hon. Gentleman may rest assured that we would be delighted to keep in touch with them, so as to get the best possible benefit from their experience and knowledge of conditions.

Coloured Troops

55.

asked the Minister of National Service whether he will urge upon the War Office the need to employ coloured men in the fighting line and so release skilled workmen from the Army for employment in the shipbuilding yards, engine shops, and mercantile marine; whether, as there are many coloured men from Africa in the Labour Battalions in France, it has been proved that they can stand the climate; and whether many coloured men are anxious to fight for the British flag, but have not been permitted to do so?

My hon. Friend has pressed this question on more than one occasion, and I can assure him that the question of the employment of coloured men in the fighting line has received, and is now receiving, the most careful consideration. Every possible use is being made of their services in the various theatres of war.

Is the hon. Gentleman not aware that I have been pressing this question on the notice of the War Office since October, 1914, and that if my suggestion had been adopted, and the great reservoir of fighting men in South Africa had been drawn upon—

The hon. Member is making a statement with regard to his own action, and is not asking a question.

May I ask whether, if the great reservoir of fighting men in South Africa had been drawn upon, it would not have been of very great effect and have had a beneficial bearing on the question of man-power in this country?

Is it the case that the recruiting of black men from South Africa has been stopped by the order of the hon. Gentleman's Department?

Commercial Travellers (Railway Fares)

58.

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether week-end railway tickets at the pre-war fares are still being issued to commercial travellers in Ireland; and, if so, why these tickets are not granted to commercial travellers in Great Britain, seeing that the railways are under the same national control?

I am aware that week-end railway tickets are still issued at pre-war fares to commercial travellers in Ireland, but the difficulties which led to the withdrawal of this privilege in Great Britain do not exist in Ireland to the same extent.

Is there any reason why commercial travellers in Ireland should be granted more favourable consideration than commercial travellers in Great Britain?

Discharged Soldiers (Workmen's Compensation Act)

57.

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he proposes to take any steps to overcome the difficulty of discharged disabled men securing employment owing to the reluctance of employers to employ them under the Workmen's Compensation Act; and whether any changes are proposed in that legislation?

My right hon. Friend has asked me to reply to this question. The matter referred to is under consideration between the Home Office and the Ministry of Pensions, and I am not at present in a position to make any statement.

Titles Deprivation Act

45.

asked the Prime Minister whether, in view of the Titles Deprivation Bill having received the Royal Assent on 8th November, 1917, and the pledge given by the Home Secretary on the Third Reading he will inform the House what action is to be taken under the powers conferred by the Act?

The reply given to the hon. Member for South Donegal on the 6th December last on this subject covers all the information now asked for by the hon. Member.

Perhaps the hon. Member will look at the Act, and he will see from the answer I gave that the Act is being carried out.

Lord Chief Justice

46.

asked the Prime Minister whether his attention has been called to the fact that the present salary of the Lord Chief Justice is £8,000 per annum, and the salary of Ambassador to the United States is £10,000 per annum, with allowance for clerk hire £475; whether the Lord Chief Justice will receive both of these salaries during the period when he represents Great Britain in the United States of America; if not, which salary he will receive; and whether the other or any portion of it will be paid for the performance of his judicial duties during his absence from the Kingdom?

I would refer my hon. Friend to the answer given by the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs on the 17th instant to the hon. Member for North Somerset. The answer to the last part of the question is in the negative.

Government Offices (Increased Accommodation)

47.

asked the Prime Minister whether his attention has been drawn to the list of demands for increased accommodation which the First Commissioner of Works has stated he has received from Ministers; and whether the Government will delay the commandeering of any further buildings and the erection of any new temporary buildings on the open spaces of London until the Committee of business men who are to inquire into the staffing of Government offices has made its Report, in view of the fact that these demands for increased accommodation are chiefly due to increases in clerical staff?

The answer to the first part of the question is in the affirmative, and to the second in the negative. It is impossible to delay the provision of the accommodation stated by responsible Ministers to be necessary for the work of their Departments

Is the right hon. Gentleman aware of the universal horror at what has been going on, and the example set to the public; cannot he to some extent reconsider his answer and delay some of the least important increases asked for?

The Government quite recognise the importance of having this matter gone into, and are taking what steps they can, but meantime my right hon. Friend himself takes care that a good case is made out before increased accommodation is given.

Russia

49.

asked the Prime Minister whether Russia is still allied with us in the War; and, if not, whether he is prepared to make any statement as to the position of the Military Convention for mutual Conscription?

As regards the first part of the question, I would refer the hon. Member to the reply which he received to a similar question yesterday. The second part, therefore, does not arise.

Premium Bonds

Government Decision

50.

asked the Prime Minister whether he has considered the Report of the Select Committee on Premium Bonds; whether he is aware that legislation to authorise any issue of such bonds would be strongly opposed; and whether he will announce that the Government have no present intention to introduce a Bill?

I have carefully considered the Report of the Select Committee, and, in view of the terms of that Report, the Government have decided not to proceed with an issue of Premium Bonds.

Farm Rents

51.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether, owing to the alleged patriotic conduct of landlords in not raising farming rents, great loss accrues to the Exchequer, because Income Tax payable by farmers is in most cases being levied on rents fixed before post-war days of prosperity, and Income Tax and Super-tax payable by landlords is consequentially reduced; and can he contrive means to correct this?

I have no information which bears out the hon. Member's suggestion that there is any considerable loss of revenue through the causes mentioned in the question, and I do not see that any action can be taken in the matter.

Canal Traffic (Railway Congestion)

61.

asked the President of the Board of Trade what progress has been made by the Canal Committee in the development of inland waterway traffic; what extra percentage of coal and other heavy traffic is now being carried by canal boats; and to what extent the congestion on the railways has been thus relieved?

As explained in reply to a similar question by the hon. and gallant Gentleman on the 22nd October last, it is not possible to state the proportion of coal and other heavy traffic which has been diverted to the canals so as to relieve the congestion on the railways. A considerable quantity of coal, grain, and sugar has, however, been thus diverted, and the amount of traffic conveyed over the controlled canals in November last was more than 1,700,000 tons. The number of boats on the canals which were idle has also been considerably reduced.

Railway Management (Mr Gattie's Scheme)

62.

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he is aware that a letter has been circulated among the Members of the House of Commons, addressed to Lord Headley by Mr. Balfour Browne, K.C., stating that some such scheme as that advocated by Mr. Gattie is essential if in the future the railway shareholders are to have any dividend, the traders the expedition and cheapness of carriage which they must have, and labour receive an adequate wage; and whether, in view of this statement, he will institute an inquiry into the matter?

I have seen a copy of the letter referred to. I explained to a deputation in November last, when the hon. Member was present, my views as to the impracticability of any useful inquiry into Mr. Gattie's main scheme in present circumstances.

I asked as to the advisability of making inquiries and not of carrying out the programme. Is there any objection to making inquiries, so that when the War ends something may be done?

Is it not the fact that the only reason why inquiry is not made is on account of the influence which vested interests have on the Government?

Is the Board of Trade investigating this problem of transport for the reconstruction of trade after the War?

Cannot the Reconstruction Minister be given a free hand to consider the matter?

Government Committees

63.

asked the Minister of Reconstruction when the White Paper will be laid which is to give the members of the various Committees of the Ministry their references and functions; and if he is aware that this Paper was promised at an early date on several occasions last year?

The list has been in the hands of the printers for some time. It is hoped that it will be ready for issue at the end of the week.

Is the right. hon. Gentleman aware that it has taken the Government no less than ten months to get a list of the number of members of the Government and Government Departments, and does he think ten months not enough to enumerate the whole list?

I am afraid the hon. Member is referring to something else and not to this question.

Munitions

Workers (Railway Facilities)

64.

asked the Minister of Munitions whether he is aware that the men employed at Queensferry were refused cheap railway facilities at Christmas; why they were not granted the same facilities as on previous holidays; and whether in future their former privileges will be granted them to enable them to visit their families?

I am advised that cheap railway facilities were granted to men employed at Queens-ferry, both at Christmas and at the New Year. On both these occasions the Department provided all the vouchers applied for in respect of married men. As regards single men, all the vouchers applied for at the New Year holiday were provided. At Christmas it was found possible to provide only a proportion of the total requirements of the single men, owing to the enormous demand and to the limited railway facilities.

My hon. Friend's figures do not correspond with the figures given me this morning. I shall be glad if he will let me have the incident he has in mind.

Hut Erection, Cleveland

66.

asked the Minister of Munitions whether Messrs. M'Alpine secured an advantageous contract for the erection of the hutments in Cleveland because a member of the firm is a relative to a Cabinet Minister; and whether he is in a position to make any statement on the subject?

The huts at Cleveland were erected by Messrs. MacAlpine on a basis of profit on cost. The total cost of the huts was £75,000 and the gross fee paid to the firm by the Government for their work in connection with the contract was £2,600. But the whole of this sum was subject to Excess Profit, Income Tax and Super-tax, the net benefit to the firm for managing the work being less than £300. As to the suggestion that the placing of this contract was influenced by some relationship between a member of the firm and a member of the Government, I have ascertained that no member of the firm was even acquainted with the Cabinet Minister in question, or with any member of his family at the time the contract was made, under which the Ministry exercised this option to have the huts erected.

Is it usual for the Minister of Munitions to make contracts on the basis of profit on the cost price?

No, it is not usual; but there are exceptional circumstances in which it is justifiable.

Housing Accommodation, Lanarkshire

67.

asked the Minister of Munitions whether repeated representations have been received by him from the Scottish Office as to the need for providing additional housing accommodation for the munition and other war workers in the Middle Ward of Lanarkshire; whether the Local Government Board for Scotland have expressed the view that immediate effect should be given to the local demand for such additional housing; and whether, having regard to the period of time which has now elapsed since the matter was first brought to the notice of his Department and to the growing industrial unrest created in the district owing to the existing shortage of houses, he is now prepared to sanction a building scheme and to release the necessary building materials?

I have been asked to reply to this question. The first two parts of the question are in general accordance with the facts. It must, however, be borne in mind that the position, involving as it does pre-war questions of housing, presented special difficulties from the point of view of the Ministry of Munitions. In regard to the third part, as a result of the correspondence which has passed and of conferences that have taken place between the Departments concerned I am hopeful that, subject to the necessary financial sanctions being obtained, a scheme for the immediate erection of a limited number of houses may shortly be put in operation.

When is it expected that this scheme will be approved and carried into operation, having regard to the long period of time which has elapsed since representations were first made?

As I have said, it is necessary first of all to have Treasury sanction. Once that is obtained, if it is obtained, there will be no delay at all.

Has the sanction of the Ministry of Munitions been obtained to the release of the necessary materials?

Enemy Submarines

68.

asked the Secretary to the Admiralty what steps, if any, he intends to take to provide convoys for ships trading to and from Ireland and Great Britain; and if he will take steps to secure protection for all ships?

It is not in the public interest to state the measures adopted for the protection of shipping.

Although the exact measures cannot be stated, can the right hon. Gentleman give an assurance that efficient protection is being given?

69.

asked the Secretary to the Admiralty, if his attention has been drawn to the defence of the crew of a steamship of Dublin when attacked by a submarine in the Irish Sea on the 2nd January, 1918; and if he is aware that it is claimed by the crew that owing to their encounter the submarine has been captured; and if he will say whether the Government or the owners propose to reward these seamen?

Reports have been received of the encounter of this vessel with an enemy submarine on 2nd January. The submarine was not captured but continued operating. Further inquiry into the circumstances of the encounter is being made.

German Banks (Liquidation)

77.

asked the Secretary to the Treasury if the recent Report by Sir William Plender on the liquidation of the German banks may be taken as the expression of the present policy of the Government or if any further instructions have been issued; and, if so, will he state them?

The recent Report of Sir William Plender may be taken to be in accordance with the present policy of the Government, the continuance of which policy was recommended by Mr. Walter Leaf and Sir R. V. Vassar Smith in their Report to the Treasury dated the 12th January, 1917. No further instructions have been issued in variance with this policy, and Sir William Plender is in. constant communication with the Treasury as to the course of events.

Does the Treasury consider that if the present dilatory method of winding up enemy banks continues, they will have finished the work by the end of the War?

Would it not be possible to shut up these enemy businesses at once, and leave the outstanding questions until after the War?

I think my hon. and learned Friend might read the Paper I have referred to in my answer.

Civil Liabilities Committee

78.

asked the President of the Local Government Board whether it is the practice of the Civil Liabilities Commissioners to refer cases in which grants are asked for to any local authority which might be in possession of, or might inquire into, the circumstances of each case?

Yes, Sir. The Civil Liabilities Commissioners have been instructed in suitable cases to refer to the local war pensions committees for information which is in the possession of, or could readily be obtained by, those committees.

Post Office Work

79.

asked the Postmaster-General whether he is aware of the state of chaos and confusion existing in his Department, entailing inconvenience upon the public; whether he is aware that letters posted in one district of London sometimes occupy two and three days to reach the addressee in another adjoining district of London; whether he is aware that letters from Liverpool on which an extra charge has been paid for express delivery and to ensure certain delivery are sometimes not delivered for many hours after letters posted at the same time in Liverpool to the same address by ordinary postage have been delivered; whether he is aware of the inconvenience caused to the public by the inattention of telephone operators in not responding to calls made upon their exchange, connecting subscribers with wrong numbers, saying numbers are engaged when they are not engaged, that they can get no answer, whilst the person rung up is waiting at his telephone for a communication, ringing up subscribers when they are not wanted, sometimes in the middle of the night, and various other annoyances; and whether he will take steps to remedy these defects in his Department?

Everything possible is being done to prevent delays in the post, but I fear they are sometimes inevitable under existing conditions. They are often due to causes over which the Post Office has no control. With regard to the hon. Member's complaint of defective telephone operating, the service is being carried on under great difficulties, and occasional inconvenience must occur.

Is the right hon. Gentleman not aware that sometimes as much as one and two hours per day are lost by heads of businesses, largely engaged in work of national importance, through the causes mentioned in the question? In time of war is not greater efficiency required than in time of peace?

I think my reply covers all the points raised by the hon. Gentleman's question.

Will the right hon. Gentleman consider the advisability of giving the telephone operators a number, so that in the event of complaint they can give the number, instead of changing their voice and speaking as the clerk in charge?

Recruiting Offices

53.

asked the Minister of National Service if he will state the amount of money allocated for the hiring and equipment of the recruiting offices taken under the new recruiting system?

In connection with the transfer of recruiting to the Ministry of National Service from the War Office, the premises in use as recruiting offices were taken over as at 1st January, 1918. The amount of money allocated for rent, in respect of such premises, was £29,724 per annum, but this does not include the compensation in respect of premises taken over subsequently to transfer. The equipment of recruiting offices is in the hands of the Office of Works, and inasmuch as the preparation of a return to enable me to give the figures would involve a very great amount of time and labour, I hope my hon. and gallant Friend will not press for the figures to be obtained now. A full statement will be available in the ordinary course.

Man-Power

54.

asked the Minister of National Service if the 420,000 to 450,000 men now in civil employment to be enlisted under the provisions of the Military Service Bill will be men of Class I. available for the fighting services of the Navy, the Army, and the Air Force?

The minimum number of 420,000 to 450,000 men to be withdrawn from among those now in civil life includes men of all grades, but the greater proportion will consist of men in Grade I.

Defence Of The Realm Act

British Socialist Party

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether the premises of the British Socialist party were raided by agents of Scotland Yard on Thursday night, and a supply of leaflets taken away which were intended for distribution to the delegates at the Labour Conference in Nottingham, containing the views of the British Socialist party as to the policy which Labour ought to pursue at this juncture, and also a message from M. Litvinoff, representative of the Russian Government, to the workers of Great Britain; whether be will promptly return these leaflets, in order that a section of British Labour may not be deprived of its ordinary right of putting its views before colleagues in print, and in order that the Russian representative may be allowed to address the British working class in what words he pleases without the interference of the Government?

It is a fact that the premises of the British Socialist party were entered by the police on the date named, and a number of copies of a leaflet of the nature described were seized. I am advised that the publication of this leaflet, which contains gross misrepresentations of the attitude of the British Government towards the Russian people, and incitements calculated to lead to civil strife and the defeat of our arms, is a clear breach of the Regulations for the Defence of the Realm, and the question of prosecution is being considered. In the meanwhile I cannot direct the return of the documents seized. I may add that I do not accept the suggestion of the hon. Member that a person who claims to be the representative of a foreign Government is at liberty to engage in propaganda in this country as he pleases without the interference of His Majesty's Government. No such liberty is allowed either to the authorised representative of a foreign Government or to an alien resident here and not occupying that position.

Will the Home Secretary reconsider his decision, and will he place the British Labour party on the same footing as the smaller body? The right hon. Gentleman said yesterday that he had decided not to take any action against the Labour party for having broken Regulation 27 c. Will he put these two parties on one footing in regard to this matter, or does he differentiate between them because he is afraid of one and he is not afraid of the other?

No. The hon. Gentleman does not represent me fairly. I said that the manifesto of the British Labour party was a technical breach of Regulation 27 c, but not of substantial Regulations like 37 and 42. The leaflet in question is a serious breach of a substantial Regulation.

Has not there been a definite breach of the law, and is the law to be broken by some people without a prosecution, while other people are to be prosecuted?

I said very carefully yesterday that I thought there had been a breach of 27 c. There was the same breach in this case, and if there had been nothing more I would not have taken the serious steps which I have taken.

Bishoprics Of Bradford And Coventry Bill Lords

Read the first time; to be read a second time To-morrow, and to be printed. [Bill 124.]