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Clause 5—(Continuation Of Increased Medicine Duties)

Volume 155: debated on Monday 19 June 1922

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The additional duties of excise imposed by Section eleven of the Finance (No. 2) Act, 1915, upon medicines liable to duty shall continue to be charged, levied and paid until the first day of August, nineteen hundred and twenty-three.

The Amendment on the paper in the name of the hon. Member for Govan (Mr. N. Maclean), at the end of the Clause to leave out the word "twenty-three" and to insert instead thereof the word "twenty-two," involves the negativing of the whole Clause, and it is, therefore, not in Order.

On a point of Order, 1s it not in order to move that an additional tax imposed during the War should be taken off, and the old tax standing

Division No. 155.]

AYES.

[12.50 a.m.

Agg-Gardner, Sir James TyneEdge, Captain Sir WilliamKellaway, Rt. Hon. Fredk. George
Amery, Rt. Hon. Leopold C. M. S.Edwards, Major J. (Aberavon)Kidd, James
Archer-Shee, Lieut.-Colonel MartinElveden, ViscountKing, Captain Henry Douglas
Armstrong, Henry BruceEvans, ErnestLane-Fox, G. R.
Atkey, A. R.Eyres-Monsell, Com. Bolton M.Leigh, Sir John (Clapham)
Baird, Sir John LawrenceFalcon, Captain MichaelLindsay, William Arthur
Balfour, George (Hampstead)Falle, Major Sir Bertram GodfreyLocker-Lampson, Com. O. (H'tingd'n)
Barlow, Sir MontagueFisher, Rt. Hon. Herbert A. L.Lorden, John William
Barnett, Major Richard W.FitzRoy, Captain Hon. Edward A.Mallalieu, Frederick William
Barnston, Major HarryFord, Patrick JohnstonManville, Edward
Bell, Lieut.-Col. W. C. H. (Devizes)Forestier-Walker, L.Molson, Major John Elsdale
Bellairs, Commander Canyon W.Forrest, WalterMorden, Col. W. Grant
Betterton, Henry B.Foxcrott, Captain Charles TalbotMoreing, Captain Algernon H.
Bigland, AlfredFraser, Major Sir KeithMorrison-Belt, Major A. C.
Birchall, J. DearmanFrece, Sir Walter deMurchison, C. K.
Borwick, Major G. O.Fremantle, Lieut.-Colonel Francis E.Murray, Fit. Hon. C. D. (Edinburgh)
Boscawen, Rt. Hon. Sir A. Griffith-Ganzoni, Sir JohnMurray, John (Leeds, West)
Bowyer, Captain G. W. E.Gee, Captain RobertNeal, Arthur
Boyd-Carpenter, Major A.Gibbs, Colonel George AbrahamNewson, Sir Percy Wilson
Brassey, H. L. C.Gilmour, Lieut.-Colonel Sir JohnNewton, Sir D. G. C. (Cambridge)
Breese, Major Charles E.Glyn, Major RalphNicholson, Brig.-Gen. J. (Westminster)
Bridgeman, Rt. Hon. William CliveGoff, Sir R. ParkNicholson, Reginald (Doncaster)
Briggs. HaroldGould, James C.Norris, Colonel Sir Henry G.
Brittain, Sir HarryHacking, Captain Douglas H.Norton-Griffiths, Lieut.-Col. Sir John
Broad, Thomas TuckerHall, Lieut.-Col. Sir F. (Dulwich)Parker, James
Brown, Brig.-Gen. H. C. (Newbury)Hamilton. Sir George C.Parry, Lieut.-Colonel Thomas Henry
Buckley, Lieut.-Colonel A.Hannon, Patrick Joseph HenryPease, Rt. Hon. Herbert Pike
Bull, Rt. Hon. Sir William JamesHarmsworth, Hon. E. C. (Kent)Peel, Col. Hon. S. (Uxbridge, Mddx.)
Campion, Lieut.-Colonel W. R.Hennessy, Major J. R. G.Percy, Lord Eustace (Hastings)
Carr. W. TheodoreHinds, JohnPollock, Rt. Hon. Sir Ernest Murray
Casey, T. W.Hoare, Lieut.-Colonel Sir S. J. GPownall, Lieut.-Colonel Assheton
Cecil, Rt. Hon. Sir Evelyn (Aston)Holbrook, Sir Arthur RichardRankin, Captain James Stuart
Chamberlain, Rt. Hn. J. A. Birm. W.Hood, Sir JosephRemer, J. R.
Coats, Sir StuartHope, Sir H. (Stirling &Cl'ckm'nn,w.)Richardson, Sir Alex. (Gravesend)
Cockerill, Brigadier-General G. K.Hope, Lt.-Col. Sir J. A. (Midlothian)Richardson, Lt.-Col. Sir P. (Chertsey)
Conway, Sir W. MartinHopkins, John W. W.Roberts, Rt. Hon. G. H. (Norwich)
Davidson, J. C. C. (Hemel Hempstead)Horne, Sir R. S. (Glasgow, Hillhead)Rodger, A. K.
Davies, Alfred Thomas (Lincoln)Hurd, Percy A.Roundell, Colonel R. F.
Davies, David (Montgomery)Inskip, Thomas Walker H.Samuel, A. M. (Surrey, Farnham)
Doyle, N. GrattanJames, Lieut.-Colonel Hon. CuthbertSamuel, Samuel (W'dsworth, Putney)
Edgar, Clifford B.Jones, Henry Haydn (Merioneth)Sanders, Colonel Sir Robert Arthur

at pre-War rates allowed to remain The Amendment is really the reduction of a tax.

The purpose of Clause 5 is to continue for one year or more the additional duties imposed by Section 11 of the Finance Act, 1915. The hon. Member moves that they should be continued till 1st August, 1922. The result of that Amendment would be simply to negative the Clause, and if the hon. Member succeeds in negativing the Clause on a Division, the result would be exactly the same as carrying the Amendment.

Question put, "That the Clause stand part of the Bill."

The Committee divided: Ayes, 153; Noes, 52.

Scott, A. M. (Glasgow, Bridgeton)Thomson, F. C. (Aberdeen, South)Windsor, Viscount
Scott, Sir Leslie (Liverp'l, Exchange)Thomson, Sir W. Mitchell- (Maryhill)Winterton, Earl
Seddon, J. A.Townley, Maximilian G.Wise, Frederick
Shortt, Rt. Hon. E. (N'castle-on-T.)Tryon, Major George ClementWood, Hon. Edward F. L. (Ripon)
Sprot, Colonel Sir AlexanderTurton, Edmund RussboroughWood, Sir J. (Stalybridge & Hyde)
Stanley, Major Hon. G. (Preston)Vickers, DouglasWorthington-Evans, Rt. Hon, Sir L.
Starkey, Captain John RalphWard, William Dudley (Southampton)Young, Sir Frederick W. (Swindon)
Steel, Major S. StrangWaring, Major Walter
Stephenson, Lieut.-Colonel H. K.White, Col. G. D. (Southport)

TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—

Sturrock, J. LengWilliams, C. (Tavistack) ColonelLeslie Wilson and Mr.
Sugden, W. H.Wills, Lt.-Col. Sir Gilbert Alan H.McCurdy.
Sutherland, Sir William

NOES.

Adamson, Rt. Hon. WilliamHeyday, ArthurSexton, James
Ammon, Charles GeorgeHenderson, Rt. Hon. A. (Widnes)Shaw, Thomas (Preston)
Banton, GeorgeHirst, G. H.Smith, W. R. (Wellingborough)
Barker, G. (Monmouth, Abertillery)Hogge, James MylesSutton, John Edward
Barton, Sir William (Oldham)Holmes, J. StanleySwan, J. E.
Bell, James (Lancaster, Ormekirk)John, William (Rhondda, West)Thomson, T. (Middlesbrough, West)
Bowerman, Rt. Hon. Charles W.Jones, Morgan (Caerphilly)Thorne, W. (West Ham, Plaistow)
Brown, James (Ayr and Bute)Kiley, James DanielWalsh, Stephen (Lancaster, Ince)
Cairns, JohnLawson, John JamesWaterson, A. E.
Cape, ThomasLunn, WilliamWatts-Morgan, Lieut.-Col D
Carter, W. (Nottingham, Mansfield)Lyle-Samuel, AlexanderWedgwood, Colonel Josiah C.
Davies, A. (Lancaster, Clitheroe)Maclean, Rt. Hon. Sir D. (Midlothian)Williams, Col. P. (Middlesbrough, E.)
Davison, J. E. (Smethwick)Mosley, OswaldWilson, James (Dudley)
Edwards, C (Monmouth, Bedwellty)Newbould, Alfred ErnestYoung, Robert (Lancaster, Newton)
Foot, IsaacRae, Sir Henry N.
Gillis, WilliamRattan, Peter Wilson

TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—

Grundy, T. W.Richardson, R. (Houghton-le-Spring)Mr. Neil Maclean and Mr. T.
Guest, J. (York, W. R., Hemsworth)Rose, Frank H.Griffiths.
Hall, F. (York, W. R., Normanton)Royce, William Stapleton

Motion made, and Question, "That the Chairman do report Progress, and ask leave to sit again," put, and agreed to.—[ Sir R. Horne.]

Committee report Progress; to sit again To-morrow.