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New Clause (Income Tax Act (1918) Admendment)

Volume 155: debated on Wednesday 28 June 1922

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That for Schedule A, Rule No. VI., paragraph (c), of The Income Tax Act, 1918, there shall be substituted the following:—
(c) The amount of the tax charged on any hospital, public school, or almshouse, in respect of the public buildings, offices, and premises belonging thereto, including premises occupied by any individual officer or the master thereof, so far as not occupied by a person paying rent for the same.

—[ Captain Wedgwood Benn.]

Brought up, and read the First time.

I beg to move "That the Clause be read a Second time."

I have put down this Amendment at the request of the Education Authority of the City of Edinburgh, and many other education authorities are, I believe, in agreement with it. So far the Inhabited House Duty has not been collected upon the residence of the schoolkeeper, or janitor as he is called in Scotland. Owing to the fact that the wages of these people have risen in the last few years, their houses have ceased to come under the exception mentioned in my new Clause. My proposal is that the house should be excepted from the duty. The income of the janitor has nothing to do with it. The effect of the present position is that the education authority is taxed in a way in which it was never intended it should be taxed. The amount of money is small—in the City of Edinburgh it is under £200 a year—but it is a vexatious and unnecessary position, and I beg the Government to consider favourably this Clause.

I am afraid I cannot assent to the proposal of my hon. and gallant Friend. I agree that the matter is small, but I cannot agree that it is vexatious. The change which has taken place has brought the janitor in some cases above the Income Tax exemption limit. Accordingly, the house fails to get the exemption which previously it had enjoyed. It is a small matter in connection with this particular class of cases, but it is obvious that there might be wide extensions if the principle is once applied. It would mean that because wages or salaries had risen in particular instances, therefore the limit of exemption should be raised. If money became cheap and people had more of it to spend, one must raise all the limits of the Income Tax Schedule. Obviously, that is too wide a principle to apply. It requires more consideration. Under the circumstances I cannot accept the Clause.

This proposal refers to any hospital, public school or almshouse, limiting this entirely to janitors or such persons who are occupying positions in publicly provided institutions. We are not asking the Chancellor to make a general concession, for I quite agree that where wages or salaries had been increased the Chancellor would then find himself embarrassed.

This is peculiarly a Scottish question and probably the Chancellor of the Exchequer is not aware that the Secretary for Scot- land did promise that this should receive consideration.

He has given consideration to it in the sense that he has said that it cannot be accepted. That is not what the Scottish Office said when we discussed it with them. The whole point is that you are expecting education authorities to pay on

Division No. 191.]

AYES.

[3.38 a.m.

Barnes, Major H (Newcastle, E.)Holmes, J. StanleySwan, J. E.
Benn, Captain Wedgwood (Leith)John, William (Rhondda, West)Thomson, T. (Middlesbrough, West)
Bowerman, Rt. Hon. Charles W.Jones, Morgan (Caerphilly)Walsh, Stephen (Lancaster, Ince)
Edwards, C. (Monmouth, Bedwellty)Lawson, John JamesWatts-Morgan, Lieut.-Col. D.
Ford, Patrick JohnstonLyle-Samuel, Alexander
Glyn, Major RalphRichardson, R. (Houghton-le-Spring)

TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—

Hayday, ArthurRoyce, William StapletonMr. Penry Williams and Mr. Foot.
Henderson, Lt.-Col. V. L. (Tradeston)Shaw, Hon. Alex. (Kilmarnock)

NOES.

Agg-Gardner, Sir James TynteHacking, Captain Douglas H.Raw, Lieutenant-Colonel Dr. N.
Amery, Rt. Hon. Leopold C. M. S.Hannon, Patrick Joseph HenryRemer, J. R.
Armitage, RobertHarmeworth, C. B. (Bedford, Luton)Richardson, Lt.-Col. Sir P. (Chertsey)
Armstrong, Henry BruceHennessy, Major J. R. G.Roberts, Samuel (Hereford, Hereford)
Baird, Sir John LawrenceHerbert, Dennis (Hertford, Watford)Robinson, S. (Brecon and Radnor)
Barker, Major Robert H.Hinds, JohnRoundell, Colonel R. F.
Barlow, Sir MontagueHolbrook, Sir Arthur RichardSanders, Colonel Sir Robert Arthur
Barnston, Major HarryHopkins, John W. W.Sassoon, Sir Philip Albert Gustave D.
Bell, Lieut.-Col. W. C. H. (Devises)Horne, Sir R. S. (Glasgow, Hillhead)Scott, A. M. (Glasgow, Bridgeton)
Blgland, AlfredHunter, General Sir A. (Lancaster)Scott, Sir Leslie (Liverp'1, Exchange)
Birchall, J. DearmanInskip, Thomas Walker H.Seddon, J. A.
Barwick, Major G. O.Kellaway, Rt. Hon. Fredk. GeorgeSeely, Major-General Rt. Hon. John
Bescawen, Rt. Hon. Sir A. Griffith-Kidd, JamesShortt, Rt. Hon. E. (N'castle-on-T.)
Bowyer, Captain G. W. E.King, Captain Henry DouglasSmith, Sir Allan M. (Croydon, South)
Boyd-Carpenter, Major A.Lane-Fox, G. R.Stanley, Major Hon. G. (Preston)
Bridgeman, Rt. Hon. William CliveLewis, T. A. (Glam., Pontypridd)Stanton, Charles Butt
Broad, Thomas TuckerLindsay, William ArthurSteel, Major S. Strang
Bruton, Sir JamesLocker-Lampson, Com. O. (H'tlngd'n)Sturrock, J. Leng
Buckley, Lieut.-Colonel A.Lort-Williams, J.Sugden, W. H.
Burdon, Colonel RowlandMcLaren, Hon. H. D. (Leicester)Sutherland, Sir William
Campton, Lieut.-Colonel W. R.McLaren, Robert (Lanark, Northern)Thomson, F. C. (Aberdeen, South)
Carr, W. TheodoreMacquisten, F. A.Thomson, Sir W. Mitchell- (Maryhill)
Cope, Major WilliamMalialleu, Frederick WilliamThorpe, Captain John Henry
Courthope, Lieut.-Col. George L.Manville, EdwardTryon, Major George Clement
Cowan. D. M. (Scottish Universities)Mond, Rt. Hon. Sir Alfred MoritzWalters, Rt. Hon. Sir John Tudor
Davidson. J. C. C. (Hemel Hempstead)Moore-Brabezon, Lieut.-Col. J. T. C.Ward, William Dudley (Southampton)
Davies, Thomas (Cirencester)Morden, Col. W. GrantWard-Jackson, Major C. L.
Doyle, N. GrattanMoreing, Captain Algernon H.Waring, Major Walter
Edwards, Major J. (Aberavon)Morrison-Bell, Major A. C.Watson, Captain John Bertrand
Evans, ErnestMunro, Rt, Hon. RobertWheler, Col. Granville C. H.
Eyres-Monsell, Com. Bolton M.Murchison, C. K.Williams, C. (Tavistock)
Falle, Major Sir Bertram GodfreyMurray, Rt. Hon. C. D. (Edinburgh)Wills, Lt.-Col. Sir Gilbert Alan H.
Fraser, Major Sir KeithMurray, John (Leeds, West)Windsor, Viscount.
Ganzoni, Sir JohnNeal, ArthurWise, Frederick
George, Rt. Hon. David LloydNewman, Sir R. H. S. D. L. (Exeter)Wood, Hon. Edward F. L. (Rloon)
Gibbs, Colonel George AbrahamNicholson, Reginald (Doncaster)Young, Sir Frederick W. (Swindon)
Gilmour, Lieut.-Colonel Sir JohnPease, Rt. Hon. Herbert Pike
Goff, Sir R. ParkPennetather, De Fonbianque

TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—

Greenwood, Rt. Hon. Sir HamarPercy, Lord Eustace (Hastings)Colonel Leslie Wilson and Mr.
Greenwood, William (Stockport)Perkins, Waiter FrankMcCurdy.
Guest, Capt. Rt. Hon. Frederick E.Pollock, Rt. Hon. Sir Ernest Murray