Ruhr Valley
54.
asked the Prime Minister whether he now has any information regarding the plans of the French Government for the occupation of a portion of the Ruhr Valley and the setting up of a French administration there and in the other occupied areas on the Rhine; and whether His Majesty's Government has been consulted in the matter?
The answer to both parts of the question is in the negative.
May I ask the right hon. Gentleman to assure the House that any information received on this matter will be given to this House before we disperse?
That is certainly, I think, putting it too broadly; any information which it is possible to give to the House will certainly be given.
Is not the Government bound by the statement of policy of the late Government that they will not participate in military operations?
I am not aware that the late Government made any such statement. What was said was limited, if I am not mistaken, to a particular proposal. This must not be taken as meaning that I am expressing any opinion.
Would it not strengthen the hands; of the Government if the matter were discussed here before the Adjournment?
I am sorry to say that I do not think so.
German Reparation
60.
asked the Prime Minister whether the Cabinet has considered any policy which it can place before the meeting of the Allied Premiers to take place in London relative to German indemnities; and whether he will take an opportunity of informing this House before the Conference the policy he proposes in the interests of this country?
72.
asked the Prime Minister whether, in conferring with the Prime Ministers of France and Italy, he will make it clear that any cancellation of debts must be conditional upon fixing reparation at a moderate and definite figure, the evacuation of the Rhine provinces, and the limitation of all armament by a ratified pact, in order to ensure an enduring peace and enable European civilisation to recover?
It is obvious that as I am meeting the Prime Ministers without having had the opportunity of seeing any suggestions which are to be made, I can make no statement at present?
In view of that reply, I beg to give notice that I propose to raise this question on the Second Reading of the Consolidated Fund Bill.
Will the Government consider the advisability of urging a withdrawal from the right bank of the Rhine, which is occupied in total disregard of the Treaty of Versailles?
The hon. Member must realise that it is impossible for me to make any statement in advance on a question of this kind.
Iraq
55.
asked the Prime Minister whether he is able to announce a change of policy which will lead to an early termination of our commitments and consequent expenditure in Iraq?
I am not yet in a position to make any announcement on this subject, and I do not think that it will be possible to make any statement this Session.
Channel Tunnel
61.
asked the Prime Minister whether, from the point of view of relieving unemployment, as well as increasing transport facilities between this country and the Continent, he will take up with France the question of the construction of the Channel Tunnel?
73.
asked the Prime Minister whether, in view of the prevailing condition of unemployment and the great volume of work which would be provided, both directly and indirectly, he can now state the decision of the Government with respect to the Channel Tunnel?
No, Sir. No decision has yet been taken, and I am not at present prepared to consider this question.
Has not this question been under consideration for the past three years, and can the right hon. Gentleman say when something is going to be done?
I know that it has been under consideration for a very long time, but I do not think the present financial condition of the country warrants it. The amount involved will be very small indeed.
Is it not a fact that the money required for the construction of this tunnel was put up entirely by private enterprise?
When the Government is looking for a solution of the unemployment problem, will they take into account the amount of work that could be provided by the construction of a tunnel to New Zealand?
Old Age Pensions
63 and 64.
asked the Prime Minister (1) what action, if any, the Government propose taking to remove the penalty on thrift imposed on old age pensioners under the present Old Age Pensions Acts;
(2) If the Government will be prepared to allow a free Vote of the House, as did the late Government, on the removal of the anomalies of the present Old Age Pensions Acts, which penalise those who have been thrifty enough to earn an income of, approximately, £50 per year?The PRIME MINISTER : In present financial circumstances the Government is unable to reopen the settlement embodied in the Old Age Pensions Act, 1919, and I am therefore unable to adopt the suggestion made in the second question.
Is it not a fact that certain individuals are paying all the expenses?
Is it possible to give instructions by administrative action that the pensions officer shall not take into account goods given by relatives?
I must have notice of that question.
Royalty Rights
65.
asked the Prime Minister if he is aware that the Bedwellty Poor Law Guardians passed a resolution at a meeting last March, recommending that the Government should take over the rights of royalty owners in the country and utilise the receipts in respect of royalties arising therefrom in relieving boards of guardians of the financial responsibility of relieving distress caused through unemployment; whether he is aware that relief to the unemployed has trebled the poor rate in this area and has overwhelmed the area with debt; and, in view of the Government pledge arising out of the Report of the Coal Commission, will he bring in a Bill on the reassembling of Parliament, next February, to take over the mineral rights of royalty owners and utilise the receipts to relieve local taxation?
I am aware of the resolution referred to and of the heavy expenditure of the Bedwellty Board of Guardians on the relief of distress, but I regret that the suggestion contained in the last part of the question is impracticable.
Did the previous Government give a pledge that they would nationalise royalties?
With a view to relieving the rates, any proposal made for the nationalisation of royalties was made on the basis of paying for them. If that be so, there is no way of doing it except by raising the rates.
Scottish Office
67.
asked the Prime Minister whether he is yet in a position to make any statement relative to the appointment of a member of the Government responsible to this House for the administration of the Scottish Office?
No, Sir. I can add nothing to the reply which I gave to questions on this subject on Monday last.
If the Prime Minister cannot find a Secretary for Scotland, will he consider the expediency of giving Scottish Home Rule immediately?
The hon. Member has rather misunderstood the answer. We have had no difficulty in finding a Secretary for Scotland, and we have one now. The difficulty we have had is to find a seat for the Lord Advocate, which I hope will soon be overcome.
Can the right hon. Gentleman put a possible date to the period when he expects to overcome this difficulty?
That depends upon other people.
National Resources
68.
asked the Prime Minister whether he will consider the advisability of appointing a Royal Commission to inquire into the national resources of the country, the productive capacity of the country and how far it can be increased by scientific methods, the extent to which the country is dependent upon foreign imports, and any other information necessary to show the present financial and productive resources of the nation?
I do not think that an inquiry of such wide scope could be suitably carried out by a Royal Commission.
Germany And Russia
69.
asked the Prime Minister whether he is able to make any statement with regard to the suggestion that a secret military agreement has been entered into between the German Government and the Soviet Government of Russia?
77.
asked the Prime Minister whether the Government has any information as to a naval and military agreement having been entered into between Germany and the Russian Soviet Government, and to the effect that large numbers of aeroplanes are being manufactured or assembled in Russia to German order; that munitions of war are being manufactured in Russia for Germany under the direct supervision of German officers; and that provision is made in the German Army Estimates for special pay and allowances for such officers?
I have no information to confirm the suggestions in these questions.
Has the right hon. Gentleman had an opportunity of looking at the German Estimates, and, if so, is there any provision made for the payment of those officers in Russia?
I think not.
Marconi Company (Mr Kellaway)
71.
asked the Prime Minister whether, up to the time of his resignation as Postmaster-General six weeks ago, Mr. Kellaway, on behalf of the Government, was in negotiation with the Marconi Company which he has since joined; and whether, in the public interest, it will be made a condition of service under the Crown that no Minister or civil servant should, within a period of five years after resignation, enter the service of any private enterprise with which he had been in negotiation on behalf of the Government?
As regards the first part of the question, the facts are, I believe, as stated in Mr. Kellaway's letter which appeared in the Press to-day. I am not prepared to adopt the suggestion contained in the last part of the question.
Is it not a fact that transactions are continually passing between the Postmaster-General and the Marconi Company?
Is it in order for an hon. Member to read supplementary questions?
I am not reading them.
I have asked the Post Office, and they reply that the facts are as stated in Mr. Kellaway's letter.
Is it not a fact that the late Postmaster-General concluded more than one agreement with the Marconi Company, which resulted in profits to the company and consequent loss to the State?
I think that is denied in the letter to which I have referred.
Rent Restrictions Act
74.
asked the Prime Minister whether the committee to consider and make recommendations for the continuance of the Rent Restrictions Act will be re-appointed before the Adjournment; and is he in a position to give the terms of reference?
The Departmental Committee appointed by the late Government is being reconstituted, with the same terms, of reference, namely,
"to consider the operation of the Increase of Rent and Mortgage Interest, etc. (Restrictions) Act, and to advise what steps should be taken to continue or amend that Act."
Worn-Out Horses (Export)
80.
asked the Minister of Agriculture the total number of old horses shipped from this country to Belgium and other continental ports during the present year; and what is the total declared value of such animals?
As the reply is rather long, I propose, with the hon. Member's permission, to circulate it in the OFFICIAL REPORT.
Following is the reply:
16,289 horses, of all ages, have been shipped from this country to continental ports during the present year up to 31st October, after being examined by veterinary inspectors of the Ministry immediately before being shipped and passed as fit to travel and to work. This includes large numbers of carriage and riding horses and Army remounts for
— | 1920. | 1921. | 1922 to 31st Oct. | |||
Number of Horses shipped | … | … | 58,689 | 45,120 | 16,289 | |
Kilogs. | Kilogs. | |||||
Horse Carcases | France | … | … | 538,909 | 1,557,648 | Not yet known. |
Belgium | … | … | 3,884,320 | 4,817,975 | ||
Carcases. | Carcases. | |||||
Holland | … | … | 1,227 | 3,666 | — |
The Ministry also issued a revised Order in December, 1921, prescribing certain stringent requirements with regard to the fitting of vessels for carrying horses, and the arrangements for feeding and watering the animals during transit. The port inspectors go on board the vessels to see that the Order is
foreign Governments. The number of aged horses is not available. According to the Customs returns, the total declared value of 15,200 of these horses (the only figures yet available) is shown as £723,787.
All horses shipped to the Continent of Europe, except special animals accompanied by Jockey Club certificates, are required by the Diseases of Animals Act of 1910, as amended by the Exportation of Horses Act of 1914,to be examined immediately before shipment by veterinary inspectors appointed by the Ministry, and certified by them to be fit to be carried without crueltyandalsoto be capable of being worked without suffering. The arrangements for administering these Acts were entirely overhauled by the Ministry in the spring of 1921, whole-time inspectors of the Ministry being substituted for local practitioners be the officers entrusted with the examination of the animals before shipment. At the same time the traffic was placed under the supervision of one of the senior inspect or so the Ministry devoting his whole time to the work. Since that time it may be confidentlyasserted that no horsehas been allowed to be shipped unless it fulfils the high standard of fitness insisted upon at all the ports of shipment. There have been two important result so this action. The so-called decrepit horse has been entirely eliminated from the traffic, and the trade in live horses, ultimately intended to be slaughtered for food on the Continent, has been replaced to a large extent by the trade in carcases of horses slaughtered on this side. This, is shown by the following figures:—
properly carried out, and voyages are frequently made with the animals by the Ministry's inspectors.
The trade in horses to the Continent is now entirely confined to high-class animals and good working horses. Of the number shipped in 1922, 96 per Cent, were between £20 and £100 per head in value. In view of the great drop in prices of horses both here and on the Continent during the past 12 months, it may be assumed that all these animals were of a good class. The proposal which has recently been largely advertised to impose a tax of £20 per head on these animals would result in the destruction of this trade, which is a perfectly legitimate one.
Insanitaky Cottages, Banstead
81.
asked the Minister of Agriculture whether be is aware that on the 23rd February, 1922, the medical officer of health for the Rural District of Epsom reported to the county medical officer of health that certain cottages erected in 1921 on the Sheep and Wells farms, in the parishes of Banstead and Woodmansterne, contained rooms that were unfit for human habitation and asking for immediate attention; that the county medical officer of health for Surrey inspected and agreed; that the rural council medical officer communicated with the county land agent on 27th May, 1922, complaining that nothing had been done to remedy the evils; that on 22nd June this was followed by another letter enclosing copy of a letter from the medical practitioner attributing the illness of his patients to the condition of the houses; and that on the 23rd November, 1922, the medical officer of health for the rural district served notice on the county land agent that four of the cottages were unfit for human habitation; whether the attention of the Ministry of Agriculture has been drawn to the condition of affairs and, if so, when; what action is proposed in view of the financial liability of the Ministry for these land settlement schemes to trace the cause of these defects in new cottages; and whether any and, if so, what action is proposed to be taken to make the cottages habitable?
The attention, of the Ministry has not hitherto been drawn to the action of the medical officer of
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Adkins, Sir William Ryland Dent | Ashley, Lt.-Col. Wilfrid W. | Banks, Mitchell |
Agg-Gardner, Sir James Tynte | Astbury, Lieut.-Com. Frederick W. | Barlow, Rt. Hon. Sir Montague |
Ainsworth, Captain Charles | Astor, Viscountess | Barrie, Sir Charles Coupar (Banff) |
Alexander, E. E. (Leyton, East) | Baird, Rt. Hon. Sir John Lawrence | Becker, Harry |
Alexander, Col. M. (Southwark) | Baldwin, Rt. Hon. Stanley | Bellairs, Commander Carlyon W. |
Amery, Rt. Hon. Leopold C. M. S. | Balfour, George (Hampstead) | Bonn, Sir A'. S, (Plymouth, Drake) |
Apsley, Lord | Banbury, Rt. Hon. Sir Frederick G. | Berry, Sir George |
health of the rural district of Epsom, but in July of the present year a complaint concerning the dampness of the cottages referred to by the hon. Member was received from the British Legion. Inquiry was then made from the county council, and the Ministry's chief architect inspected several of the cottages, which are of the bungalow type. I am advised that the dampness is due to condensation on the walls of the cottages and that there is no question of penetration of wet from the outside or of the non-provision of proper damp courses. The condition has been somewhat aggravated by the fact that the cottages were nearly all occupied very soon after they were completed. The Ministry is also advised that condensation must of necessity occur on new 9-inch solid walls with smooth internal plaster, and is liable to recur under violent changes of temperature unless special care is taken to keep the rooms thoroughly aired and ventilated. The chief architect of the Ministry also reports that these cottages are excellently built and comfortably planned and that there is no justification for the suggestion that any of them are unfit for habitation. I am also informed that the statements of the medical officer of the rural district have received the attention of the Surrey Small Holdings Sub-Committee and that their efforts are being principally directed to induce the tenants of the cottages to ventilate them regularly as the principal precaution against the recurrence of condensation. The sub-committee referred to is watching the situation closely, and I do not consider that any action on my part is called for.