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Business Of The House

Volume 255: debated on Tuesday 21 July 1931

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May I ask the Secretary of State for Dominion Affairs what the business will be on Friday, and for what purpose it is intended to move the suspension of the Eleven o'clock Rule to-night?

It is proposed to dispose of the first four Orders on the Order Paper down to and including the Army and Air Expenditure, 1929, Committee. The business for Friday will be considera- tion of Lords Amendments to the Agricultural Land (Utilisation) Bill, and, if time permits, other Orders. With regard to to-morrow's business, representations have been received and it is proposed to take the Public Works Loans Bill immediately after the conclusion of Supply and before the Report stage of the Consumers' Council Money Resolution.

Is the right hot,. Gentleman aware that an undertaking was given that the Public Works Loan Bill, which involves £30,000,000, will be taken at such an hour as to give time for proper consideration?

I am told that no undertaking was given. I understand that my hon. Friend said that he hoped it would be possible to do that, but circumstances have not enabled us to do it.

In view of the fact that we allowed one stage of this Bill to go through on the understanding that we should get proper time to discuss it, could not the right hon. Gentleman have the Bill put down as the first Order on Friday?

I understand that it was put down for last Friday, but at the wish of the Opposition it was not taken.

Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that the second Order which he proposes to take after Eleven o'clock, the Small Landholders and Agricultural Holdings (Scotland) Bill, Lords' Amendments, involves many points of principle, and can he give an undertaking that it shall not be taken at too late an hour?

I hope the House generally will realise that we are trying to work to a programme, in accordance with the promise made that we shall rise next week. I hope that the First Order today will not take the time that is generally anticipated.

In the event of the Debate on the Unemployment Insurance Bill being prolonged into the small hours of the morning, does the right hon. Gentleman still propose to take the Financial Resolution of the Consumers' Council Bill, no matter what hour it may be?

I cannot conceive the first contingency, but, even if that were so, I understand that this business is absolutely essential if the House is to rise next week.

In regard to the Public Works Loan Bill, we do not intend to be hostile, but it is a matter which involves £30,000,000, and there is no real hurry for the Bill. It can well stand over until we come back again. Some £15,000,000 is still unexpended. Why force it through the House at midnight?

There is no attempt to force anything on the House. It may equally be said that a number of other matters which are equally urgent and important will have to be discussed when we come back.

In regard to the Public Works Loans Bill, may I ask if the right hon. Gentleman is aware that the report of the Commissioners for this year is not yet published, and that it

Division No. 442.]

AYES.

[3.38 p.m.

Adamson, Rt. Hon. W. (Fife, West)Edwards, C. (Monmouth, Bedwellty)Hudson, James H. (Huddersfield)
Adamson, W. M. (Staff., Cannock)Egan, W. H.Isaacs, George
Addison, Rt. Hon. Dr. ChristopherElmley, ViscountJohn, William (Rhondda, West)
Alexander, Rt. Hon. A. V. (Hillsbro')England, Colonel A.Johnston, Rt. Hon. Thomas
Alpass, J. H.Evans, Major Herbert (Gateshead)Jones, Llewellyn-, F.
Ammon, Charles GeorgeFoot, IsaacJones, J. J. (West Ham, Silvertown)
Arnott, JohnFreeman, PeterJones, Rt. Hon. Lelf (Camborne)
Attlee, Clement RichardGardner, B. W. (West Ham, Upton)Jones, Morgan (Caerphilly)
Baker, John (Wolverhampton, Bilston)Gardner, J. P. (Hammersmith, N.)Kedward, R. M. (Kent, Ashford)
Barnes, Alfred JohnGeorge, Megan Lloyd (Anglesea)Kelly, W. T.
Barr, JamesGibbins, JosephKennedy, Rt. Hon. Thomas
Batey, JosephGibson, H. M. (Lancs, Mossley)Kenworthy, Lt.-Com. Hon. Joseph M.
Benn, Rt. Hon. WedgwoodGillett, George M.Knight, Holford
Bennett, William (Battersea, South)Glassey, A. E.Lambert, Rt. Hon. George (S. Molton)
Benson, G.Gossling, A. G.Lang, Gordon
Bondfield, Rt. Hon. MargaretGould, F.Lansbury, Rt. Hon. George
Bowen, J. W.Graham, Rt. Hon. Wm. (Edin., Cent.)Lathan, G. (Sheffield, Park)
Bowerman, Rt. Hon. Charles W.Gray, MilnerLaw, Albert (Bolton)
Bromfield, WilliamGreenwood, Rt. Hon. A. (Colne)Law, A. (Rossendale)
Brothers, M.Grenfell, D. R. (Glamorgan)Lawrence, Susan
Brown, Rt. Hon. J. (South Ayrshire)Griffith, F. Kingsley (Middlesbro' W.)Lawrie, Hugh Hartley (Stalybridge)
Burgess, F. G.Groves, Thomas E.Lawson, John James
Buxton, C. R. (Yorks. W. R. Elland)Grundy, Thomas W.Lawther, W. (Barnard Castle)
Carter, W. (St. Pancras, S.W.)Hall, F. (York, W. R., Normanton)Leach, W.
Charleton, H. C.Hall, G. H. (Merthyr Tydvil)Lee, Frank (Derby, N.E.)
Chater, DanielHall, J. H. (Whitechapel)Lees, J.
Church, Major A. G.Hall, Capt. W. G. (Portsmouth, C.)Leonard, W.
Cluse, W. S.Hamilton, Mary Agnes (Blackburn)Lloyd, C. Ellis
Clynes, Rt. Hon. John R.Hardie, David (Rutherglen)Logan, David Gilbert
Cocks, Frederick SeymourHardie, G. D. (Springburn)Longbottom, A. W.
Compton, JosephHastings, Dr. SomervilleLongden, F.
Cowan, D. M.Haycock, A. W.Lovat-Fraser, J. A.
Cripps, Sir StaffordHayday, ArthurLunn, William
Daggar, GeorgeHenderson, Rt. Hon. A. (Burnley)Macdonald, Gordon (Ince)
Dallas, GeorgeHenderson, Joseph (Ardwick)MacDonald, Rt. Hon. J. R. (Seaham)
Dalton, HughHenderson, W. W. (Middx., Enfield)MacDonald, Malcolm (Bassetlaw)
Davies, D. L. (Pontypridd)Herriotts, J.McElwee, A.
Davies, Rhys John (Westhoughton)Hicks, Ernest GeorgeMcEntee, V. L.
Day, HarryHirst, G. H. (York W. R. Wentworth)McKinlay, A.
Denman, Hon. R. D.Hirst, W. (Bradford, South)Maclean, Neil (Glasgow, Gevan)
Dukes, C.Hoffman, P. C.MacNeill-Weir, L.
Duncan, CharlesHollins, A.Macpherson, Rt. Hon. James I.
Ede, James ChuterHopkin, DanielMcShane, John James
Edmunds, J. E.Horrabin, J. F.Malone, C. L'Estrange (N'thampton)

would be much better to put off the discussion on the Bill until the report is available? I have tried to get a copy of the report, but it is not available. Is it fair to bring a Bill of this kind before the House when the report of the Commissioners is not in the hands of hon. Members?

I do not know anything of the details, but I cannot conceive of anything done by this side of the House which will be construed as unfair.

Will the right hon. Gentleman arrange for the Financial Secretary to the Treasury and the Lord Advocate to go away for their holidays?

Motion made, and Question put,

"That the Proceedings on Government Business be exempted, at this day's Sitting, from the provisions of the Standing Order (Sittings of the House)."—[Mr. J. H. Thomas.]

The House divided: Ayes, 248; Noes, 139.

Mander, Geoffrey le M.Ramsay, T. B. WilsonStamford, Thomas W.
Manning, E. L.Rathbone, EleanorStrauss, G. R.
Mansfield, W.Raynes, W. R.Sullivan, J.
March, S.Richards, R.Sutton, J. E.
Marcus, M.Richardson, R. (Houghton-le-Spring)Taylor, R. A. (Lincoln)
Marley, J.Riley, Ben (Dewsbury)Thomas, Rt. Hon. J. H. (Derby)
Marshall, FredRiley, F. F. (Stockton-on-Tees)Thorne, W. (West Ham, Plaistow)
Mathers, GeorgeRitson, J.Thurtle, Ernest
Matters, L. W.Roberts, Rt. Hon. F. O. (W. Bromwich)Tillett, Ben
Messer, FredRobinson, Sir T. (Lancs, Stretford)Tinker, John Joseph
Middleton, G.Romeril, H. G.Toole, Joseph
Mills, J. E.Rosbotham, D. S. T.Tout, W. J.
Montague, FrederickRowson, GuyTownend, A. E.
Morgan, Dr. H. B.Russell, Richard John (Eddisbury)Trevelyan, Rt. Hon. Sir Charles
Morley, RalphSamuel, Rt. Hon. Sir H. (Darwen)Vaughan, David
Morris, Rhys HopkinsSamuel, H. Walter (Swansea, West)Viant, S. P.
Morris-Jones, Dr. J. H. (Denbigh)Sanders, W. S.Walker, J.
Morrison, Rt. Hon. H. (Hackney, S.)Sawyer, G. F.Wallace, H. W.
Morrison, Robert C. (Tottenham, N.)Scott, JamesWalters, Rt. Hon. Sir J. Tudor
Muff, G.Scrymgeour, E.Watkins, F. C.
Muggeridge, H. T.Scurr, JohnWatts-Morgan, Lt.-Col. D. (Rhondda)
Murnin, HughSexton, Sir JamesWellock, Wilfred
Nathan, Major H. L.Shaw, Rt. Hon. Thomas (Preston)Welsh, James (Paisley)
Naylor, T. E.Shepherd, Arthur LewisWelsh, James C. (Coatbridge)
Newman, Sir R. H. S. D. L. (Exeter)Sherwood, G. H.West, F. R.
Noel-Buxton, Baroness (Norfolk, N.)Shield, George WilliamWestwood, Joseph
Oliver, P. M. (Man., Blackley)Shiels, Dr. DrummondWhiteley, Wilfrid (Birm., Ladywood)
Owen, Major G. (Carnarvon)Shillaker, J. F.Wilkinson, Ellen C.
Paling, WilfridShinwell, E.Williams, David (Swansea, East)
Palmer, E. T.Short, Alfred (Wednesbury)Williams, E. J. (Ogmore)
Parkinson, John Allen (Wigan)Simmons, C. J.Williams, T. (York, Don Valley)
Perry, S. F.Sinclair, Sir A. (Caithness)Wilson, C. H. (Sheffield, Attercliffe)
Peters, Dr. Sidney JohnSitch, Charles H.Wilson, J. (Oldham)
Pethick-Lawrence, F. W.Smith, Ben (Bermondsey, Rotherhithe)Wilson, R. J. (Jarrow)
Picton-Turbervill, EdithSmith, Frank (Nuneaton)Wood, Major McKenzie (Banff)
Pole, Major D. G.Smith, Rennie (Penistone)Young, R. S. (Islington, North)
Potts, John S.Smith, Tom (Pontefract)
Price, M. P.Smith, W. R. (Norwich)

TELLERS FOR THE AYES.

Pybus, Percy JohnSnowden, Rt. Hon. PhilipMr. T. Henderson and Mr. William
Quibell, D. J. K.Sorensen, R.Whiteley.

NOES.

Acland-Troyte, Lieut.-ColonelDavison, Sir W. H. (Kensington, S.)Locker-Lampson, Com. O.(Handsw'th)
Albery, Irving JamesDespencer-Robertson, Major J. A. F.Long, Major Hon. Eric
Ashley, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Wilfrid W.Dugdale, Capt. T. L.Macdonald, Capt. P. D. (I. of W.)
Astor, Maj. Hn. John J. (Kent, Dover)Eden, Captain AnthonyMaitland, A. (Kent, Faversham)
Atholl, Duchess ofEdmondson, Major A. J.Makins, Brigadier-General E.
Baldwin, Rt. Hon. Stanley (Bewdley)Elliot, Major Walter E.Margesson, Captain H. D.
Balniel, LordErskine, Lord (Somerset, Weston-s. M.)Meller, R. J.
Bellairs, Commander CarlyonEverard, W. LindsayMillar, J. D.
Betterton, Sir Henry B.Ferguson, Sir JohnMilne, Wardlaw-, J. S.
Bourne, Captain Robert CroftFord, Sir P. J.Mitchell, Sir W. Lane (Streatham)
Bowater, Col. Sir T. VansittartFrece, Sir Walter deMonsell, Eyres, Com. Rt. Hon. Sir B.
Bowyer, Captain Sir George E. W.Fremantle, Lieut.-Colonel Francis E.Moore, Lieut.-Colonel T. C. R. (Ayr)
Braithwaite, Major A. N.Ganzoni, Sir JohnMorrison, W. S. (Glos., Cirencester)
Briscoe, Richard GeorgeGault, Lieut.-Col. A. HamiltonNall-Cain, A. R. N.
Broadbent, Colonel J.Gibson, C. G. (Pudsey & Otley)Nicholson, Col. Rt. Hn. W. G. (Ptrsf'ld)
Brown Ernest (Leith)Gilmour, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir JohnPeake, Captain Osbert
Brown, Brig.-Gen. H. C.(Berks, Newb'y)Glyn, Major R. G. C.Penny, Sir George
Buchan, JohnGrattan-Doyle, Sir N.Peto, Sir Basil E. (Devon, Barnstaple)
Buchan-Hepburn, P. G. T.Gretton, Colonel Rt. Hon. JohnPower, Sir John Cecil
Bullock, Captain MalcolmGunston, Captain D. W.Pownall, Sir Assheton
Butler, R. A.Hacking, Rt. Hon. Douglas H.Reid, David D. (County Down)
Campbell, E. T.Hamilton, Sir George (Ilford)Remer, John R.
Castle Stewart, Earl ofHannon, Patrick Joseph HenryRichardson, Sir P. W. (Sur'y, Ch't'sy)
Cautley, Sir Henry S.Hartington, Marquess ofRodd, Rt. Hon. Sir James Rennell
Cayzer, Maj. Sir Herbt. R. (Prtsmth. S.)Harvey, Major S. E. (Devon, Totnes)Russell, Alexander West (Tynemouth)
Cazalet, Captain Victor A.Henderson, Capt. R. R. (Oxf'd, Henley)Salmon, Major I.
Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. N. (Edgbaston)Heneage, Lieut.-Colonel Arthur P.Samuel, A. M. (Surrey, Farnham)
Chapman, Sir S.Hennessy, Major Sir G. R. J.Sandeman, Sir N. Stewart
Christle, J. A.Herbert, Sir Dennis (Hertford)Savery, S. S.
Cobb, Sir CyrilHills, Major Rt. Hon. John WallerShepperson, Sir Ernest Whittome
Cohen, Major J. BrunelHoare, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir S. J. G.Sinclair, Col. T. (Queen's U., Belfast)
Colfox, Major William PhilipHudson, Capt. A. U. M. (Hackney, N.)Skelton, A. N.
Cooper, A. DuffHurd, Percy A.Smith, Louis W. (Sheffield, Hallam)
Courtauld, Major J. S.Hutchison, Maj.-Gen. Sir R.Smith, R. W. (Aberd'n & Kinc'dine, C.)
Cranborne, ViscountIveagh, Countess ofSmith-Carington, Neville W.
Crichton-Stuart, Lord C.Lamb, Sir J. Q.Smithers, Waldron
Crookshank, Capt. H. C.Latham, H. P. (Scarboro' & Whitby)Stanley, Lord (Fylde)
Culverwell, C. T. (Bristol, West)Law, Sir Alfred (Derby, High Peak)Steel-Maitland, Rt. Hon. Sir Arthur
Dalkeith, Earl ofLeighton, Major B. E. P.Stewart, W. J. (Belfast South)
Davidson, Rt. Hon. J. (Hertford)Lewis, Oswald (Colchester)Taylor, Vice-Admiral E. A.
Davies, Maj. Geo. F. (Somerset, Yeovil)Llewellin, Major J. J.Thomas, Major L. B. (King's Norton)

Thompson, LukeWard, Lieut.-Col. Sir A. LambertWomersley, W. J.
Thomson, Mitchell-, Rt. Hon. Sir W.Waterhouse, Captain CharlesWood, Rt. Hon. Sir Kingsley
Titchfield, Major the Marquess ofWayland, Sir William A.
Todd, Capt. A. J.White, H. G.

TELLERS FOR THE NOES.

Turton, Robert HughWilliams, Charles (Devon, Torquay)Sir Frederick Thomson and Sir
Vaughan-Morgan, Sir KenyanWindsor-Clive, Lieut.-Colonel GeorgeVictor Warrender.
Wallace, Capt. D. E. (Hornsey)Winterton, Rt. Hon. Earl