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Oral Answers To Questions

Volume 293: debated on Thursday 1 November 1934

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Unemployment

Juveniles

1.

asked the Minister of Labour the estimated number of juveniles between the ages of 14 and 18 now unemployed?

3.

asked the Minister of Labour the number of boys and girls unemployed at the latest available date and the comparable figures for the previous year?

At 24th September, 1934, the latest date for which figures are available, there were 65,339 unemployed boys and 51,446 unemployed girls, of 14 and under 18 years of age, on the registers of Employment Exchanges and Juvenile Employment Bureaux in Great Britain. At 25th September, 1933, the corresponding figures were 57,076 and 39,830 respectively. The comparability of these figures is affected by the large increase in the numbers of children reaching the school-leaving age during the year, and by the lowering of the insurance age at the beginning of September, 1934.

Is the right hon. Gentleman consulting his colleague the President of the Board of Education in regard to these appalling figures, in order to do something to keep these children longer at school?

I am always consulting my colleagues, but I do not agree with the hon. Member's description of the figures as appalling. In view of the large increase in the number of children leaving school, their absorption into industry is rather remarkable.

Do the figures include boys and girls of the working-class only, or do they include all those unemployed between the ages of 14 and 18 years?

It depends entirely on whether they are on the unemployment register at the Exchange, or at the Juvenile Unemployment Bureau.

Office And Agricultural Workers

8.

asked the Minister of Labour whether the Unemployment Insurance Statutory Committee have examined the question of bringing the black-coated workers within the scope of unemployment insurance?

No, Sir. This question will be brought before the committee as soon as possible, but for the present the committee is fully occupied with the question of unemployment insurance for agriculture which the Act required them to consider immediately.

10.

asked the Minister of Labour whether the Unemployment Insurance Statutory Committee has examined the question of the insurance of agricultural workers against unemployment; and. if so, with what result?

The Statutory Committee is examing this question, and has not yet made a report.

I am afraid I cannot. They have held several meetings and have been hearing evidence.

Aliens

6.

asked the Minister of Labour the number of aliens, giving the country of origin and type of employment, that have been allowed to enter this country to take up employment during the present year?

As the reply includes detailed statistical tables, I will, with the hon. Member's permission, have the information circulated in the OFFICIAL REPORT.

In view of the way some of the tables are set out, it would be rather misleading.

Following is the reply:

TABLE showing the number of cases in which foreigners have been permitted to take up employment during the period 1st January, 1934, to 30th September, 1934—summarised according to the principal occupations concerned.

(Note.—The table includes, in addition to Permits issued by the Ministry of Labour, permissions granted by the Home Office (after consultation with the Ministry of Labour) in respect of foreigners already in the country.)

Occupations.Numbers.
Private Domestic Service3,196
Concert, Theatrical, Variety Hall, Cabaret and Circus Artistes and Musicians2,630
Foreign correspondents, clerks, and Volunteer Commercial Students 1,180
Hotel and Restaurant employés428
Teachers of Foreign Languages555
Miscellaneous1517
Total9,506

TABLE showing the number of cases in which foreigners have been permitted to take employment during the period 1st January, 1934, to 30th September, 1934—summarised according to the nationality of the individuals concerned.

(Note.—The table includes, in addition to Permits issued by the Ministry of Labour, permissions granted by the Home Office (after consultation with the Ministry of Labour) in respect of foreigners already in the country.)

Nationals of:
America, United States of975
Austria919
Belgium199
Czechoslovakia161
Denmark403
Estonia61
Finland133

France990
Germany2,747
Greece27
Holland271
Hungary144
Italy391
Japan50
Latvia21
Norway207
Poland112
Portugal16
Rumania33
Russia, U.S.S.R.45
Russia (now Stateless)176
Spain63
Sweden221
Switzerland961
Other Countries180
Total9,506

Building Industry

7.

asked the Minister of Labour the total number of insured persons, classified in trade groups, unemployed in the building industry in Great Britain on the latest available date, and comparable figures for 1933.

As the reply includes a table of figures, I will, if I may, circulate a statement in the OFFICIAL REPORT.

Following is the statement:

INSURED PERSONS aged 16 to 64 in the building industry classification recorded as unemployed in Great Britain:
Occupation.24th Sept.,25th Sept.,
1934.1933.
Carpenters11,50016,836
Bricklayers4,5897,169
Masons3,1203,793
Slaters and Tilers1,2261,103
Plasterers1,5902,696
Painters21,43124,649
Plumbers4,5776,093
Labourers to the above43,05250,992
All other occupations59,45654,897
Total, Building Industry150,541168,228

Statistics

9.

asked the Minister of Labour the latest available figures for unemployment?

At 24th September, 1934, the latest date for which figures are available, there were 2,081,987 unemployed persons on the registers of Employment Exchanges in Great Britain.

Cotton Operatives (Benefit)

11.

asked the Minister of Labour whether he is aware that considerable dissatisfaction exists in the industrial part of Lancashire owing to the fact that unemployed workers with good insurance records are unable to profit by the provisions of Part I of the Unemployment Act to get extra benefits if their benefit years happen to end before 26th July, 1934, the date of the coming into operation of the Act, unless they are able to qualify for another benefit year by getting 10 stamps on their cards, an extremely difficult thing to do with the present depressed state of the cotton trade; and whether, in order to remove this grievance, he will consider introducing legislation at an early date?

Part I of the Unemployment Act granted additional days of benefit to claimants who had been eligible for benefit at some time during their benefit years which were current when the Act began to operate. This was generally recognised as a generous provision, and I cannot hold out any hopes of further legislation on the point.

Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that the intention of Parliament was that these persons should not suffer as a result of the passing of the Act. Is it not hard that, owing to the present depression in Lancashire, it is quite possible that they may never be able to profit by the passing of the Act?

I must assume that the intention of Parliament is set out in the Act which Parliament passed. I recognise that there are unfortunate cases; that is always the case when new legislation of this kind takes effect from a particular date.

Disabled Ex-Service Men

12, Mr.

asked the Minister of Labour whether he is aware of the anxiety of disabled ex-service men to have those parts of the Unemployment Act put into force which affect the manner in which their pensions shall be taken into account in calculating need; and whether he can give any indication as to when the Act will be put into force in this respect

It is my desire to bring these provisions into force as soon as possible and according to present proposals the First Appointed Day as my hon. Friend knows, is to be 7th January. I regret that it is not possible to propose an earlier date.

Juvenile Instruction Centres

13.

asked the Minister of Labour how many local education authorities have made arrangements for juvenile instruction centres under the Unemployment Act and which authorities have so far failed to do so?

77 education authorities are now conducting junior instruction centres or classes or have submitted formal proposals for that purpose. A number of other authorities have proposals under active consideration, while in many areas there will be no need for centres or classes. Considerable delay is inevitable in many areas particularly owing to the difficulty of acquiring sites and accommodation, but I have received no information which suggests that any authority does not intend to carry out its obligation under the Act.

Can the right hon. Gentleman say how many centres were in existence before, and how many are new centres?

If the hon. Member will put down a question, I shall be glad to give him the information.

Are these centres being provided in places where juvenile unemployment is highest?

I have given the number of authorities in which they are actually operating, and I have indicated that in other areas arrangements are proceeding.

Unemployment Act (Appointed Days)

14.

asked the Minister of Labour whether he can state if the fixing of the dates when Part II of the Unemployment Act comes into operation was made by the Government or his Department; and whether any consideration was given to the expenditure already incurred by industrial areas?

Under Section 63 of the Unemployment Assistance Act, 1934, the appointed days are to be fixed by the Minister of Labour, subject to the consent of the Treasury. The desire of all concerned is to fix them at the earliest practicable date and as already stated it is proposed that they shall be the 7th January and 1st March respectively.

As the Treasury have some say in the fixing of the date will the right hon. Gentleman give further consideration to the large expenditure entailed upon local authorities throughout the country in providing this additional benefit, which should be borne by the Treasury, arid reconsider the matter with them?

A desire to relieve local authorities of expenditure was of course one of the reasons why we were anxious to make the date as early as possible, but the overriding consideration must be the practicability of having the machinery working. We came to the conclusion that the machinery of the Board could not be in operation before the dates which have been provisionally fixed.

58.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he has considered representations from local authorities protesting at the postponement of the appointed day, under Part II of the Unemployment Insurance Act, to next year; and whether it is proposed to make any offer of financial assistance to meet the increased cost to the authorities adversely affected?

60.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he is aware that representations are being made by various Scottish municipalities against the decision of the Government to fix 1st March, 1935, as the date upon which Part II of the Unemployment Act, 1934, comes into operation; and whether, in view of the fact that a much earlier date was generally expected, he will consider the question of granting to local authorities financial assistance towards able-bodied unemployed relief equivalent to what they would have received had the appointed day been fixed as from 1st July, 1934?

I have received a number of representations from local authorities on the subject of the appointed days which, subject to approval by Parliament of the necessary regulations, it is proposed to fix for the purposes of Part II of the Unemployment Act. As regards the second part of each of the questions, I am not in a position to add anything to the answer given on the 18th May last to one of the Members for Dundee (Mr. Dingle Foot), namely, that it is not possible to anticipate the relief which local authorities will receive when the Act is in full operation.

Will my right hon. Friend be good enough to receive a deputation from Scottish local authorities on this matter, and is he aware that that would be regarded as a very friendly gesture on his part and would clear up some unfortunate misunderstandings which have arisen about the fixing of the appointed day?

Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that I have received a letter this morning from Dumbarton and Clydebank intimating the fact to me that they are sending a deputation to meet the Chancellor of the Exchequer on this question, and I want to ask the Chancellor of the Exchequer, here in the House of Commons, if he is prepared to receive that deputation?

Can my right hon. Friend say why people who voted against this Bill are so anxious to have it brought into operation?

If my right hon. Friend accedes to the request of Scotland on a communication being addressed to him, will he also accede to the request of England?

My hon. Friend has pointed out the dangers of acceding to any such request.

Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that in consequence of the delay in bringing the Bill into operation, great hardship has been inflicted on many of the distressed areas, and that, so far as West Ham is concerned, it makes a difference of £28,000?

Government Departments

Ministry Of Labour

15.

asked the Minister of Labour how many men and women clerks, respectively, have received promotion to the general clerical class in his Department during the past 12 months; and whether in future promotions he will bear in mind the long experience and qualifications of the ex-service men in the "S" class?

During the 12 months ended 31st October, 1934, 89 male clerks and 87 women clerks were promoted to the general clerical class in the Ministry of Labour. In the selection of these officers for promotion due regard was paid to the experience and qualifications of "S" class clerks and the members of this class will be given similar consideration when the question of further promotions to the general clerical class arises.

Are ex-service men being treated as they should be?

Stationery Office (Duplicating Work)

67.

asked the Financial Secretary to the Treasury whether he will state the identifiable and continued net saving per annum during each of the last five financial years resulting to the Stationery Office and other Government Departments from the performance within the Stationery Office by duplicating processes of work which would otherwise be given to outside printing and/or duplicating firms?

The economy due to the centralisation of certain duplicating work in the Stationery Office and to the use, for suitable work, of modern duplicating processes in lieu of printing can be ascertained in individual cases, and is undoubtedly substantial in the aggregate. I regret, however, that it is not possible without undue labour to identify the net annual saving in the aggregate in the manner desired by the hon. Member.

Trade And Commerce

New Industries (German Firms)

17 AND 29.

asked the Secretary OF State for the Home Department (1) the number of licences issued to Germans for employment in the various German textile firms that have received permission to open factories in this country, and their duration;

(2) the number of German textile firms that have been granted permission to establish factories in Great Britain during the past six months, the numbers of British and foreigners employed, respectively, and where the factories are situated?

As I explained in reply to a question by the hon. Member for Bolton (Mr. Entwistle) on the 30th July last, there has been no case during the current year in which permission has been granted to German nationals to establish textile factories in this country. In 29 cases during this period permission has been granted for the establishment of making-up factories by Germans. The number of permits issued for the employment of Germans by these firms is 23, in each case for a period of 12 months. I have no precise information as to the number of British subjects employed at present and it must be remembered that many of these enterprises have not yet, or have only recently, started, but I have no reason to doubt that they will ultimately give employment to a substantial number of British subjects. As regards the situation of the factories, I regret that, as explained in my answer on the 30th July, this information cannot be furnished.

Idle Cotton Mills (Rates)

41.

asked the Minister of Health whether he is aware that machinery is being removed from idle cotton mills in order to escape the payment of rates, with the result that there is little likelihood of such mills ever being restarted; and whether he will consider the remission of rates on idle cotton mills in order to assist attempts which are now being made to restart these idle mills?

The remission of rates as suggested, and any alteration of the basis of rating an assessment, would require legislation, and I am not in a posi- tion to promise legislation altering the position established by the Local Government Act, 1929, at the present time.

Will the Minister consider introducing the necessary legislation to bring about some obviation of this state of affairs which is causing great distress in Lancashire Can he not see his way to introduce a Measure to make it possible for us to restart these mills instead of allowing the machinery to be removed?

The general aspects of the matter are, of course, under consideration. With regard to the particular suggestion of my hon. and gallant Friend, I am afraid I can add nothing to the answer which I have just given.

Would the Minister consider introducing a short Measure to allow rates to be removed where the machinery is not actually working, in order that the machinery may be left in the mills?

If the Minister does consider any further relief from rates of factories of this kind, will he bear in mind that it only means an increase in the rates on other property, including small cottage property?

Silk And Artificial Silk

63.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what action His Majesty's Government proposes to take on the recommendation of the Import Duties Advisory Committee of 16th May relative to duties on silk and artificial silk?

I would refer my hon. and gallant Friend to Command Paper 4633 in which he will find the position fully explained.

Is it not a fact that since that Command Paper was issued, several months have elapsed; and is my right hon. Friend aware that during those months the imports of artificial silk in competition with Midland towns has increased tremendously, and is now some 100 per cent. both in value and in volume above that of 1932; and what is he going to do about it?

Motor Car Insurance (Third-Party Risks)

18.

asked the Home Secretary the number of convictions for failure to insure against third-party risk during the past 12 months?

Statistics are collected for the calendar year and to obtain separate figures for the past 12 months would necessitate calling for a special return. The Return of Offences relating to Motor Vehicles, which was presented to Parliament on 14th May last shows that during 1933 there were 12,486 convictions for failure to insure against third-party risks and that in a further 2,451 cases the court found the charge proved but disposed of it under the Probation of Offenders Act without proceeding to conviction.

Can the right hon. Gentleman say whether prosecutions are tending to increase or decrease?

Can the right hon. Gentleman say how the number of offences compares with the number of licences actually held under third-party insurance?

Broadmoor Asylum (Prisoner's Release)

20.

asked the Home Secretary whether he is now able to authorise the discharge from Broadmoor Asylum of John Edward Redmond, who was indicted on a charge of arson at the Liverpool assizes in February last and was ordered to be detained during His Majesty's pleasure?

In this case the jury returned a special verdict as provided by the Trial of Lunatics Act, 1883, to the effect that the accused was guilty of the act charged but was insane at the time when the act was done by him. I regret that having regard to all the circumstances I am unable to authorise Redmond's discharge, but the case will be reviewed from time to time with a view to considering his discharge when that course appears to be justified in his own interest and that of the public.

Legal Offences (Standard Fines)

19.

asked the Home Secretary whether he has considered the report of the law and parliamentary committee of the Birmingham Chamber of Commerce, which was adopted by the council of that body on Monday, 30th July, 1934, and which embodied proposals for the payment of standard fines for specified offences without the necessity of the offender attending court; if the suggestions submitted have received the consideration of his Department; and if any action is contemplated?

I have carefully considered the report but am unable to support the proposals.

Public Health

Dangerous Drugs (Atophan)

21.

asked the Home Secretary whether, in view of the evidence of the professor of pharmacology at Birmingham University and the remarks of the Birmingham coroner at a recent inquest as to the effects of the drug atophan, he will consider the scheduling of this drug as a poison?

I am bringing the case to which my hon. and gallant Friend refers to the notice of the Lord President of the Council and the Council of the Pharmaceutical Society, who are the authorities at present responsible for additions to the Schedule of Poisons.

Rural Water Supply Schemes

39.

asked the Minister of Health the number of applications for grants for rural water schemes; the amount allocated; and the number of schemes still awaiting approval?

Applications for grants have been received from 210 rural district councils, for 1,189 parishes, and from 12 urban district councils, in respect of schemes estimated to cost £3,270,000. Grants totalling £295,000 have been provisionally allocated in respect of schemes for 712 parishes estimated to cost £2,013,000. Schemes in respect of 219 parishes estimated to cost £621,000 are under consideration.

Is the Minister satisfied with the progress that is being made in this respect?

Yes, Sir, I think the very rapid progress which is being made shows how great is the utility of this grant.

Dust Chute, Westminster

42.

asked the Minister of Health whether his attention has been drawn to the nuisance and danger to health caused by the new Westminster dust chute in the Grosvenor basin; whether he is aware that there is a persistent offensive odour in the neighbourhood, ceaseless noise at night, making sleep difficult if not impossible, arid frequently the atmosphere is polluted with dust; and whether, in view of this menace to the health of the residents in the neighbourhood, he will have inquiries made and make representations to the Westminster City Council on the matter?

My attention has been drawn to this matter and I have communicated with the Westminster City Council. The council state that the City Medical Officer of Health is satisfied that there is no substance in the complaints. I am informed that the plant which has been put down is the most up-to-date that could be obtained. Further inquiries will, however, be made.

Can the Minister give us any information as to when he is likely to get a reply to the inquiry?

Perhaps I may communicate with the hon. Member when I have further information.

Maternity And Child Welfare

51.

asked the Minister of Health the total number of maternity and child welfare authorities; and how many of these authorities exercise their powers under the Maternity and Child Welfare Act, 1918, to provide milk and food for mothers during the last three months of pregnancy and during lactation?

There are 422 maternity and child welfare authorities in England and Wales. The great majority of them exercise the powers referred to in the question, but the actual number is not available. In the circular addressed to local authorities on the 10th October on the subject of maternal mortality, I took the opportunity of stressing the importance of using these powers in appropriate cases.

Would the right hon. Gentleman consider taking steps to ascertain the exact figures?

Colliery Refuse Tips, Astley

52.

asked the Minister of Health whether he is now in a position to state what steps have been taken by the colliery company to deal with the burning colliery refuse tips at Gin Pits, Astley, near Tyldesley, in view of the complaints by residents living near to them that their health is being affected by the fumes coming from them?

One of my inspectors has twice visited the tip. He reported that the company have discontinued the tipping of any kind of material upon the tip, except lime refuse and earth for the purpose of smothering the fire. My inspector will continue to watch the matter closely.

Will the right hon. Gentleman press for a further report immediately? I went there myself on Friday last, and the fumes are almost as bad as ever, and the complaints are just the same, so that I shall be glad if he will press the matter again.

I think that can only be because the putting of earth on the lire has not yet had its full effect.

As I mentioned in my answer to his question, I am watching the matter through my inspector.

Imported Milk Products

53.

asked the Minister of Health whether he will cause investigation to be made into the health of the animals producing the milk and into the cleanliness of the manufacture of the milk products imported from foreign countries?

I do not consider that such an investigation is needed at the present time. The interests of public health are protected by the facts that imported milk is subject to special bacteriological conditions which do not apply to home produced milk and that all milk products are subject to examination at the port of entry to ensure that they are fit for human consumption.

Can milk drawn from a diseased cow and made up into butter in a dirty condition be considered to be fit for human consumption?

That inquiry begs the question. The state of affairs is that we have a very effective safeguard in the inspections to which I have referred at the port of entry.

But does the inspection of my right hon. Friend enable him to detect whether the milk comes from diseased cows?

Maternal Deaths

57.

asked the Minister of Health whether he is aware that the annual report of the chief medical officer of the Ministry for 1933 showed that the councils of eight counties, seven county boroughs, and five metropolitan boroughs have sent no confidential reports on maternal deaths to his Department; whether he has taken any steps to obtain such reports from these local authorities; and what action, if any, he has taken in regard to authorities which have furnished reports which do not include any comment or interpretation and show no evidence of careful investigation such as is regarded as essential by the chief medical officer?

The answer to the first part of the question is in the affirmative. As regards the second part, I have no power to require the submission of such reports, but every opportunity is taken of urging upon the local authorities the importance of co-operating in the desired inquiries. With regard to the last part of the question, I am informed that even in cases where the reporting medical officer does not feel justified in furnishing any comment on, or interpretation of, the facts disclosed, the reports do not necessarily lack evidence of careful investigation. I may add that the medical officers of my Department who examine the reports have the advantage of the advice of two consultant obstetricians whose services have been retained for the purpose.

Cinematograph Industry

22.

asked the Home Secretary whether he is contemplating the imposition of any censorship upon cinema news reels?

No, Sir, but I have thought it my duty to see representatives of this branch of the industry and to point out that it rests with them so to handle their material as to make it unnecessary for the Government to consider the imposition of any censorship on news reels.

Is it not a fact that the recent assassination pictures were revolting?

I have heard complaints on that subject and that is why I have seen the industry.

23.

asked the Home Secretary whether he proposes to make fresh safety regulations under the Films Act, 1909?

I am glad of this opportunity to state that the revision of the Regulations made in 1923 under the Cinematograph Act, 1909, has been under consideration for some time past. The intention is to adapt the Regulations to present conditions, and one of the points to be dealt with is the relaxation, in favour of slow-burning films, of certain requirements necessary for fast-burning films. No draft has yet been completed and it is, I think, scarcely necessary for me to add that before any new Regulations are finally made, full consultation will take place betwen my Department and the different interests involved.

Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that there is considerable anxiety among education authorities and scientific bodies that these regulations would preclude them from carrying on these useful activities, and may I assume that his answer covers consultation with such bodies?

Is it not a fact that the 16 millimetre films are practically non-inflammable and therefore quite safe?

Bread (Sunday Baking)

24.

asked the Home Secretary whether he is aware of the spread of Sunday baking and delivery of bread in London and elsewhere; and whether he will cause inquiries to be made as to the extent of this practice, which is causing great concern to both employers and workmen?

I have received representations on the subject of the baking and delivery of bread on Sundays in the London area. If the hon. Member has evidence of any general extension of this practice, I shall be prepared to consider it, but he will appreciate that I have no statutory powers on the matter.

Rabbit-Trapping

25.

asked the Home Secretary whether he will consider the advisability of appointing a committee to investigate the present position with regard to the use of steel rabbit-traps; and what effective alternative methods of trapping are available?

Will my right hon. Friend bear in mind the importance of ascertaining the real facts about alternative methods before any question of legislation is considered?

Hawkers (Door-To-Door Canvassing)

26.

asked the Home Secretary whether he will consider whether any steps can be taken to reduce the growing nuisance of canvassing for the sale of articles at private houses?

A pedlar or hawker selling goods from door to door, with certain exceptions, must take out a pedlar's or hawker's licence, as the case may require, and the issue of these licences is in each case dependent on the issuing authority being satisfied as to the good character of the applicant. Any further restrictions on canvassing for the sale of articles at private houses would require legislation and I have no evidence before me which would appear to justify any such action.

Does my right hon. Friend appreciate that this growing practice is not merely a nuisance in those homes where servants are kept to answer the door, but is a greater hardship in those homes where no servant is kept?

Does the right hon. Gentleman regard it as a greater crime to sell things at doors than to buy votes at an election?

Wormwood Scrubs Prison

27.

asked the Home Secretary what is the accommodation of Wormwood Scrubs prison; and what was the maximum number of prisoners detained there in 1913 and 1933?

In 1913 there was accommodation for 1,420 and the maximum number of prisoners was 1,393. As a result of alterations and arrangements for the reservation of some cells for special purposes, the number of cells available for ordinary use is now 1,244. The maximum number of prisoners in 1933 was 1,163.

In view of the decreasing number of prisoners at Wormwood Scrubs, is there any hope of their being transferred elsewhere and the site made available for local housing needs?

Workmen's Compensation (Cardroom Workers)

28.

asked the Home Secretary whether he has considered the advisability of scheduling cardroom workers under the existing Workmen's Compensation Acts so that such workers incapacitated, either partially or totally, as a result of inhaling fibre dust, shall be entitled to compensation?

Yes, Sir, this matter has received my full and sympathetic consideration. There would be great difficulties in meeting the position by adding to the schedule of industrial diseases under the Workmen's Compensation Act, having regard in particular to the absence of any special clinical features which would enable the lung condition of the workman to be diagnosed as due to the dust; but I have written to the Employers' Federation urging them to consider some special scheme and suggesting that they should arrange for an early meeting of representatives of both sides to explore the problem further.

While the right hon. Gentleman is negotiating with employers will he again look into the possibility of including these sufferers within the Schedule of the Workmen's Compensation Act so that they may not have to rest, in the end, on any charitable fund set up by employers?

Education

School-Leaving Age

30.

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Board of Education whether it is the intention of the Government to introduce legislation to raise the school-leaving age?

My Noble Friend has nothing to add to the answer which I gave to the hon. Member for Leigh (Mr. Tinker) on the 16th of July last, of which I am sending the hon. Member a copy.

In view of the figures given earlier in the day by the Minister of Labour, that there are about 126,000 children between 14 and 18 years of age out of work, will the hon. Gentleman ask his Noble Friend to reconsider this matter?

My right hon. Friend the Minister of Labour said that the absorption rate was very satisfactory, and, as regards areas where unemployment is heavy, the hon. Member has to bear in mind certain provisions of the recent Unemployment Act.

Does the hon. Gentleman consider it satisfactory when 126,000 children are considered to be permanently out of work?

Is it not the case that the bulk of those children have been out of work only a few days?

31.

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Board of Education whether he will state the names of the local authorities that have submitted schemes for the raising of the school-leaving age to 15, giving the number of schemes sanctioned by his Department and where situated?

Prior to 1931 five local education authorities, Caernarvonshire, East Suffolk, Plymouth, Cornwall and Bath, had, with the sanction of the Board of Education, raised the school-leaving age in their areas by byelaw to 15 years. Since that date similar byelaws have been sanctioned for Chesterfield, Lowestoft and Cheltenham; and, with the Board's concurrence, the authorities of Gloucester City and of Penzance have published their intention to make such a byelaw. Definite proposals for similar byelaws have been received by the Board from the authorities of Barrow-in-Furness, Winchester and Denbighshire. There is also a proposal from Barnsley to raise the age to 14½ instead of 15. These proposals are still under consideration. Proposals were also made by the authorities of Burnley and Huddersfield, but were refused.

Can the hon. Gentleman give the reasons why those last two are being refused?

Partly because the education arrangements proposed were not satisfactory, and partly because the areas are not sufficiently self-contained to prevent difficulties of employment arising with neighbouring areas.

School Leavers

32.

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Board of Education whether he can state the number of children who left the public elementary schools during the year ended 31st March, 1934, and, for comparison, the number who left during the previous 12 months; and if he has had any reports as to the effects on the employment market of the increased number of children leaving school during the 12 months ended 31st March, 1934?

The number of children who left the public elementary schools for employment during the year ended 31st March, 1934, was 533,140. The corresponding figure for the year ended 31st March, 1933, was 371,026. With regard to the second part of the Question, my Noble Friend is informed by the Minister of Labour that reports received by him indicate that the additional number of children who left school during the year ended the 31st March, 1934, have been readily absorbed into employment in many parts of the country, notably in most of the industrial centres of the south-eastern and midland areas. In a number of these areas, despite the additional numbers available, it has not been possible to meet all demands for juvenile labour. On the other hand, in some parts of South Wales and on the north-east coast, and in certain other areas, the larger number of children leaving school has increased the volume of juvenile labour surplus to local requirements.

Teachers' Pensions

33.

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Board of Education whether he can report on the negotiations which have been taking place between the Board of Education and the representatives of the teachers relative to the question of the pensions of teachers who retire during the operation of the economy cuts?

My Noble Friend has informed the National Union of Teachers of the conditions which would need to be attached to any arrangement for securing that the pensions of teachers retiring during the currency of the economy cuts should not be reduced by reason of those cuts, and has inquired whether, on the assumption that time could be found for the introduction of the necessary legislation, and that there was general agreement on the part of the other parties concerned, the Executive of the Union would desire the introduction of legislation on the lines indicated by him. My Noble Friend has not yet been informed of the wishes of the Executive in the matter.

Can my hon. Friend say whether the conditions offered imply that sacrifices will be called for from other teachers?

The matter is rather complicated. The conditions of the Government's offer are indicated in the reply which I gave to the hon. Member for Fairfield (Mr. Brocklebank), on 12th July last, of which I will send my hon. Friend a copy.

Will my hon. Friend press upon his colleague the fact that this matter is causing considerable concern?

Cinematograph Displays

34.

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Board of Education whether he has any record of accidents in primary or secondary schools which have been caused by cinematograph displays?

No case of an accident caused by a cinematograph display has been brought to the notice of the Board.

Poor Relief

37.

asked the Minister of Health the number of persons in receipt of Poor Law relief on the last available date, giving separate figures for men, women, and children?

38.

asked the Minister of Health the number of persons in receipt of Poor Law relief in England and Wales on the last available date?

35.

asked the Minister of Health the number of persons in receipt of Poor Law relief in Wales on the last available date?

The total number of persons in receipt of poor relief in England and Wales—including dependants but excluding rate-aided patients in mental hospitals, persons in receipt of domiciliary medical relief only and casuals—on Saturday, lath October, 1934, was 1,310,668. Of these, 134,854 were chargeable in Wales with Monmouth. The weekly returns from which these figures have been obtained do not distinguish the numbers of men, women and children, but it is estimated that 29 per cent. of the total consisted of men, 35 per cent. of women and 36 per cent. of children.

Can the Minister say how these figures compare with the figures for the corresponding period of 1931?

Not from memory, but I shall be very happy indeed to give the hon. Member an answer, if he puts down a question to that effect.

Are not all the adult males in receipt of Poor Law relief on grounds of unemployment included in the live register of unemployed persons?

40.

asked the Minister of Health what steps he has taken to secure the co-operation of Poor Law authorities in not including the first. 20s. of ex-servicemen's wounds or disability pensions when assessing the means of an applicant for relief; whether such steps have proved effective; and, if not, whether he will seek legislative power to secure the right of such allowance?

I may refer my hon. and gallant Friend to the Bill dealing with this question which I introduced yesterday.

Is the Minister aware of the great feeling of satisfaction and gratitude experienced by the ex-servicemen at this step which has been taken to alleviate their sufferings;: and, further will he see that the Measure comes into operation not later than the date on which the Unemployment Act will come into operation?

I will certainly take into consideration my hon. and gallant Friend's suggestion.

Rating And Valuation, London

43.

asked the Minister of Health whether he can now give the House any indication as to when the promised new Rating and Valuation Bill for London will be produced, thereby displacing the present operating Act of 1868 from the Statute Book?

The introduction of a Bill on the lines indicated by my hon. Friend is still under consideration.

Is the Minister aware that this matter is very serious and very pressing?

Election Literature, Southgate

44.

asked the Minister of Health whether his attention has been drawn to a certain organisation in Southgate making indiscriminate use of the borough council's crest on their election literature; and whether the sanction of the council was obtained to use the crest; and what action he proposes to take in the matter?

My attention has not previously been drawn to this matter, but it is not one in which I have power to take any action.

Distressed Areas (Tyneside)

45.

asked the Prime Minister whether he has had his attention called to important conferences taking place on the North-East Coast; and whether he will afford Parliamentary time to discuss the problems of this area?

As my hon. Friend is aware, the Government have already promised to give a day to discuss the reports of the investigators into the distressed areas, and the problems of those areas. Owing to a personal communication that I have received from my hon. Friend, I understand that her question has reference also to the possibility of building a second Cunarder on the Tyne. I am fully aware of the views of the representatives of the North-East Coast as to this. A question on the subject is, in fact, to be answered this afternoon by the Chancellor of the Exchequer.

65.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether any representation has been made by the Government to the Cunard Company that the sister ship to the "Queen Mary" should be built on the Tyne; and, if not, whether it is proposed to make any such representation?

No decision has as yet been taken to build a sister ship to the "Queen Mary"; and in these circumstances the question does not arise.

May I ask whether, in consideration of the substantial financial assistance given by the State in connection with the building of these vessels, the Government did or did not reserve to themselves the right to make recommendations or stipulations as to where these vessels should be built.

The question does not really arise because no question has yet arisen of building a sister ship.

Air Defence Measures

46.

asked the Prime Minister when it is proposed to issue the safety code for civilians during air raids?

I would refer the hon. Member to the statement made by my right hon. Friend the Lord President of the Council on the 30th July last during the course of the Debate on the Consolidated Fund (Appropriation) Bill. For the present I can say nothing further, but I can assure the hon. Member that the Government are fully alive to the problem.

May we take it that it is still intended to circulate this information and that the proposal has not been abandoned, as was reported in the Press?

I do hope that my hon. Friend will believe nothing he sees in the Press, especially that which, I assume, he patronises.

Have the Cabinet considered the setting up of an international police force to do away with all air raids?

Arms Traffic

47.

asked the Prime Minister whether any officers of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Foreign Office at home or abroad are permitted under any circumstances to assist British armament manufacturers in the sale of their products to foreign Governments?

The business of British armament manufacturers in the sale of their products abroad is carried on through their own commercial agents. It is the custom of His Majesty's representatives abroad to assist, always in accordance with established international practice, the interest of business firms in this country. His Majesty's representatives abroad, however, do not canvass for armament orders and may not act as agents, and no serving member of the Defence Services is permitted to act on behalf of or to assist any armament or any other firm in the sale of its products except within the limits above mentioned and in order to secure that British firms shall not be handicapped in competing with other firms receiving Government assistance.

Has the right hon. Gentleman's attention been drawn to certain evidence given on this subject before the United States Senatorial inquiry, and has he any comments to make?

On that, as on all other matters, we have nothing whatever to conceal. We shall wait until we find not only statements but proofs.

Does my right hon. Friend's answer apply to paint for painting battleships?

Housing

Ribbon Development

48.

asked the Minister of Health whether it is his intention to include in his housing legislation provisions to enable local authorities to control ribbon development?

No, Sir. I do not think provisions of this kind could conveniently be included in housing legislation.

Has my right hon. Friend any other proposals in mind which will meet the great feeling that there is in the country at the present time?

The matter is under consideration. The answer I have given applies only to housing.

Slum Clearance, Withypool, Somerset

49.

asked the Minister of Health whether his atten- tion has been drawn to the order for demolition of certain cottages at Withy-pool, Somerset; and, in view of the age of the occupants and of their long family association with these cottages, and of the heavy loss involved, will he make such arrangements as will obviate their demolition?

Yes, Sir. My attention has been drawn to this matter, and I am making inquiries, but my hon. Friend is no doubt aware that the appeal provided by Statute in cases of this kind from the Order of the local authority lies to the County Court, and I have no direct jurisdiction.

Is my right hon. Friend aware that the cost of the appeal is quite beyond the means of the inhabitants? In view of the urgency of the matter and of his unsatisfactory answer, I beg to give notice that I shall call attention to this matter on the Motion for the Adjournment at the earliest possible moment.

Clearance Areas

54.

asked the Minister of Health whether he will give an assurance that he will not confirm any order by a local authority seeking to include in a clearance area, under the Housing Act, 1930, a building fit for habitation, merely by reason of its bad arrangement in relation to its neighbours or on account of the narrowness or bad arrangement of the streets?

Yes, Sir. As I have previously stated, the policy of the Government is on the lines referred to in this question.

Is my right hon. Friend aware that there will be very general satisfaction with that reply, and will he include a provision of this nature in the legislation which he contemplates bringing before the House?

I must not anticipate legislation that is to be presented, but I would again emphasise the fact that the actual administration has been in accordance with this practice throughout.

My right hon. Friend is unable to bind his successor, and will he bear this in mind when he comes to frame the legislation?

Will my right hon. Friend also give an assurance that back-to-back property is not necessarily property that must be cleared unless it comes within other meanings of the Act?

National Health Insurance

55.

asked the Minister of Health what factors in employment were responsible for his decision that work in public wash-houses and baths was non-insurable; and if he is aware that the ordinary risks of industry for which the insurance schemes were created apply to workers in those establishments?

I have given no such general decision. If the hon. Member will give me particulars of any individual employé engaged in work of the kind referred to in the question whose employment I have decided not to be insurable, I will look into the case and communicate further with him.

Industrial Assurance

59.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether and, if so, when he proposes to introduce legislation to give effect to the recommendations of the departmental committee on industrial assurance?

I am not in a position at the moment to make any statement on this subject, but it is clearly not possible to deal with it in the remainder of the present Session.

National Finance

Monetary Policy

61.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he can now make any further statement with regard to monetary policy?

I see no reason for making any further statement on the monetary policy of His Majesty's Government since there has been no change in this policy since I last explained it to the House.

Does not the right hon. Gentleman think that if Great Britain took steps to stabilise the pound at or about the present exchange other countries would follow our example?

Entertainments Duty (Exemptions)

66.

asked the Financial Secretary to the Treasury how many musical and dramatic associations have obtained exemption from Entertainments Duty since the recent decision that the Old Vic and Sadler's Wells were not now liable to such duty; whether such exemption is based solely on the fact that the entertainment must be of an educational nature and not established for profit; and whether in this event he will consider providing similar exemption for any entertainment which is educational in a similar sense and on which no profit is made?

The answer to the first part of the question is 43; with regard to the second part, the exemption is in every case governed by Section 1 (5) (d) of the Finance (New Duties) Act, 1916, the essential conditions being that the entertainment shall be provided for partly enducational purposes by a society, institution or committee not conducted or established for profit; with regard to the third part, I am not prepared to consider such an extension of the exemption as is suggested.

Does my hon. Friend suggest that musical festivals are held without intention towards profit?

Foreign Loans (Restrictions)

62.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether there is any immediate prospect of the embargo on foreign loans being removed?

I would refer the hon. Member to the full statement which I made to the House on the 19th July last in reply to a question put by the hon. and gallant Member for Peebles (Captain A. Ramsay). The position today remains as indicated in that statement, and I see no immediate prospect of any change.

Would it not be possible to allow carefully guarded credits to be arranged, as in the case of Russia, so as to stimulate our foreign trade?

Agriculture

Milk Marketing Scheme

68.

asked the Minister of Agriculture whether he will make a statement indicating the measure of success which has attended the operations of the Milk Marketing Board?

In accordance with Section 10 of the Agricultural Marketing Act, 1931, my right hon. Friend, the Secretary of State for Scotland, and I will lay before Parliament, before the end of this year, a report upon the operation of the agricultural marketing schemes in force during the current year. In the circumstances I hope that my hon. Friend will not press, at the present time, for a separate statement upon the operation of the Milk Marketing Scheme.

I am very much obliged to my right hon. Friend. Will he indicate when it will be possible to make this general report on the marketing schemes?

May I ask whether the right hon. Gentleman is taking notice of some of the decisions of the courts on the Milk Marketing Board?

74.

asked the Minister of Agriculture how many trials for infringement of the Milk Marketing Scheme have been carried out since the inception of the scheme; whether these trials were carried out in secret, or in public; and whether, in view of the undesirability of continuing trials of a secret nature in this connection, he will take steps to arrange for the alteration of the marketing scheme in this respect?

I understand that pursuant to the Agricultural Marketing Act, 1931, 520 cases of alleged infringement of the Milk Marketing Scheme have come before the Milk Marketing Board since the inception of the scheme. While it has not been the practice of the board to sit in public when dealing with these cases, I am informed that they have never refused admission to any member of the public who desired to be present. The board have further informed me that an application has been received from representatives of the Press to attend a meeting of the board to be held to-day to consider some such cases and that arrangements have been made for them to be present.

Can the right hon. Gentleman tell the House the aggregate costs imposed upon the 500 persons who have been brought before the Board?

No, Sir; the Act which my hon. Friend helped to put through the House does not make provision for that information to be collected.

Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that persons are invited to attend before the Board whether they are residing in Yorkshire or Northumberland? That is the only opportunity they have of submitting their own cases, and will the right hon. Gentleman make representations to the Board so that, instead of these persons being invited to attend in London, there may be regional courts where cases can be dealt with?

No doubt certain alterations may very properly be made in these arrangements. I have no doubt that questions such as my hon. Friend has asked will bring this matter to the notice of the Milk Marketing Board.

Egg And Poultry Commission (Chairman)

69.

asked the Minister of Agriculture when the report of the Poultry Commission will be issued?

70.

asked the Minister of Agriculture who is now the chairman of the Poultry Commission; and when the Commission will present its report?

I am glad to have this opportunity of informing the House that I have invited Mr. F. N. Blundell to be Chairman of the Reorganisation Commission for Eggs and Poultry for England and Wales, and that he has accepted my invitation. Mr. Blundell has served as a member of this Commission since its con- stitution. He also rendered valuable services as a member of the Imperial Economic Committee from 1926 to 1931, and as a member of the Reorganisation Commission for Milk. I understand that the Commission is now preparing its report which it hopes to complete by the end of this month.

Are we to understand from my right hon. Friend's answer that there are no more Socialists available for these posts?

Barley

71.

asked the Minister of Agriculture whether he will state the nature of the suggestions which have been made to his Department in favour of the adoption of any agreed-on scheme of relief for the barley growers of the country?

I understand that the National Farmers' Union have recently had under consideration certain proposals concerning imported foreign barleys, but these have not yet been brought before me.

In view of the very low price for home-grown barley, will the right hon. Gentleman consider recommending an increased duty on foreign barley?

I think that my hon. and gallant Friend is aware that applications for increased duties must come before the Import Duties Advisory Committee.

76.

asked the Minister of Agriculture if, in view of the disappointing market so far for this season's malting barley, he will request brewers and maltsters to furnish annual returns of the quantity of home and imported barley, respectively, used by them?

I have no power to require brewers and maltsters to make returns of the quantities of home-grown and imported barley used by them. My hon. Friend is no doubt aware that the Brewers' Society have informed my right hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer that they have strongly recommended their members to continue to adhere to the undertaking given last year in regard to the purchase of home grown barley. Although the market for malting barley is reported to be slow at present, there is no reason for assuming that the undertaking will not again be carried out or that it will not result in benefit to barley growers.

Imported Eggs

72.

asked the Minister of Agriculture how it is proposed to effect the reduction of 10 per cent. aggregate in foreign imported eggs in shell for the first quarter of 1935?

It is hoped to secure the desired reduction of 10 per cent. in imports of eggs in shell from foreign sources in the first quarter of 1935 by voluntary arrangements with the exporting countries. The consideration of these arrangements is now proceeding.

Butter Factories

75.

asked the Minister of Agriculture whether he can say how many butter factories, excluding factories engaged solely in blending, there are, respectively, in the United Kingdom, New Zealand, Denmark and Australia; and whether he is proposing to take steps to increase the number of butter factories in the United Kingdom?

I regret that I am not in possession of the information necessary to answer the first part of my hon. Friend's question; as regards the second part, the answer is in the negative.

Potato Marketing Scheme

78.

asked the Minister of Agriculture whether he is aware that a large number of small distributors who distribute the produce of smallholders and market gardeners around London have been refused a licence by the Potato Marketing Board to buy and sell potatoes; that many of these men have been engaged in this occupation for periods up to 30 years and have, by this decision, had their livelihood taken away with only a few days' notice and without any reason given, whereas licences have been granted to similar distributors who have only been engaged in the industry for short periods; and will he state on what principles this discrimination has been exercised and what compensation is to be available for those who livelihood has been taken away by the decision of the board?

I take it that the hon. Member has in mind a recent determination of the Potato Marketing Board that, subject to an exemption as regards cer- tain classes of sales, registered producers shall not sell potatoes except to merchants authorised by the board. I have no knowledge of the cases to which the hon. Member refers, but I have no doubt the board would be prepared to consider any representations or additional information which may be available regarding them. I would, however, remind the hon. Member that Section 9 of the Agricultural Marketing Act, 1931, provides machinery for the consideration of complaints about the operation of agricultural marketing schemes. As regards the last part of the question, there is no provision in the Potato Marketing Scheme for the payment of compensation to merchants who are not authorised by the board.

Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that the notice refusing these licences is dated so recently as 27th October, and was received on 29th October, and that the scheme comes into force to-day? Will he give the House a guarantee that none of these men, if pursuing the calling they have been following for 30 years, will be fined without further inquiry having been made into the particular cases?

These are matters of regulation within the industry itself, and it would not be possible for me to give assurances regarding the working of a scheme which has been passed by this House.

Can the Minister tell us what principle is being followed in the granting or refusing of these licences?

No, Sir. There are a number of general principles which have guided the Board in approving merchants, but, as my hon. Friend will realise, one of the considerations which is constantly pressed upon the agricultural industry is the necessity of reducing middlemen's costs, and it is very difficult to say at what point injustice arises when this process is being carried out.

Further to that, may I ask whether it is not a fact that these men, who have been following this occupation, have been carrying it out so as to supplant the middlemen. Is it not a fact that what they are doing is dealing direct between the producer and the actual retailer?

I am sure it is quite impossible for me to discuss the operations of the Board by question and answer across the Floor of the House. A scheme has been considered and has been passed by Parliament, and within the limits laid down by Parliament the responsibility is that of the Board and the organised producers, and not of this House.

I wish to give notice that, owing to the unsatisfactory nature of the reply, I shall raise this question on the Adjournment on the first available opportunity?

Tithe Rentcharge

73.

asked the Minister of Agriculture whether he can state the number of farms, the value of cattle, furniture, farming implements and personal goods that have been distrained for non-payment of tithe; and whether the total value of the goods distrained is equal to the tithes due?

No, Sir. The collection and recovery of tithe rentcharge is not a matter which falls within the jurisdiction of the Ministry.

Anglo-German Payments Agreement

The following Questions stood upon the Order Paper:

87.

to ask the President of the Board of Trade whether he is in a position to make a statement in connection with the collection of commercial debts from Germany; and if there is any prospect of a satisfactory arrangement being made.

88.

to ask the President of the Board of Trade whether he can inform the House of the nature of the agreement between Germany and this country as to the payment by Germany of commercial debts owing to this country.

With your permission, Mr. Speaker, and by leave of the House, I beg to make a statement on the result of the negotiations for a Clearing Agreement with Germany.

The United Kingdom Delegation under the leadership of Sir Frederick Leith- Ross, who have been in Berlin during recent weeks, have been negotiating with the German Government representatives with a view to reaching a reasonable basis for the settlement of the outstanding commercial debts and to ensuring the continuance, under acceptable conditions, of current trade between the two countries. For some time during the negotiations it appeared that no solution of the difficulties could be found except along the lines of a Clearing Agreement, in spite of the drawbacks of such a system and the hindrances which it inevitably places upon the flow of trade. A draft Clearing Agreement which, it was hoped, would avoid the major difficulties inherent in an arrangement of this kind and the pitfalls which have prevented the successful working of similar agreements between Germany and other countries, has been agreed with the German representatives and initialed.

Towards the end of the negotiations the German Government put forward an alternative proposal with the object of safeguarding payment for current exports of United Kingdom goods to Germany and enabling the outstanding debts to be liquidated without setting up a clearing system. The basis of this proposal is as follows:

The German Government will guarantee that 55 per cent. of the value of German exports to the United Kingdom shall be definitely earmarked for the payment of United Kingdom exports to Germany. This allocation should, according to the normal trend of Anglo-German trade, be sufficient to enable United Kingdom exports to Germany to be paid for in full.

As regards the liquidation of outstanding commercial debts the Reichsbank will provide immediately a sum of not less than £400,000 for this purpose and will also expedite their liquidation by the realisation of outstanding German commercial claims on the United Kingdom whether by a credit operation or otherwise. In so far as these measures are not sufficient, the Reichsbank will set aside an additional percentage (provisionally fixed at 10 per cent.) of the value of German exports to the United Kingdom sufficient to ensure the liquidation of all outstanding debts within 12 months.

The sondermarks standing in the Special Account under the Anglo-German Exchange Agreement of August last, as well as those waiting to go into that account, will continue to be sold by the Bank of England; and further arrangements will be made whereby, with the help of the credit operation and, if necessary, of a charge upon the 55 per cent. earmarked for current trade purposes, the sondermarks will be liquidated within a period of three months.

At the outset foreign exchanges certificates for the import of United Kingdom goods into Germany will be issued without restriction, but the German Government, after consultation with His Majesty's Government, may temporarily restrict in so far as necessary the issue of such certificates. But in exercising this control they will give special consideration to exports to Germany which are particularly important to this country, namely, coal and coke, herrings, yarns, tissues, and textile manufactures.

The German Government further agree that they will continue as from the 1st January, 1935, to pay full interest on bonds of the Dawes and Young Loans in the beneficial ownership of British holders on the 15th June last, in the same manner as provided for by the Anglo-German Transfer Agreement of 4th July last and that they will offer to British holders of non-Reich loans 4 per cent. Funding Bonds guaranteed by the German Government and exempt from transfer restrictions, on the understanding that the British holders who accept this offer take the Funding Bonds in full settlement of any coupons funded.

An agreement has now been reached with the German Government embodying these arrangements. This agreement embodies the principles which it has been the object of His Majesty's Government to attain with a view to safeguarding British interests as far as possible in the situation created by the German exchange measures. In case it should not prove successful and should have to be terminated, provision has been made for its replacement by a clearing arrangement, and letters have been exchanged placing it on record that in this event the clearing arrangement which has been initialed shall thereupon come into force. The text of the new agreement and of this exchange of letters will be published as a Command Paper this evening.

The agreement represents the best that could have been reached in all the circumstances. At the same time I should not like the House to think that it will automatically remove all the difficulties from the path of Anglo-German trade and I suggest to our exporters that they should continue to proceed with caution.

I wish only to put a question to the Prime Minister on this statement, if Mr. Speaker will allow me. It has been customary until to-day to give the Opposition notice when a statement of this kind is to be made. I think that on nearly every occasion I have had a sight of the statement that was to be made, and, although I do not want to make any grievance of it because it is probably an inadvertence, I hope that the right hon. Gentleman will in future let us know when a statement of this kind is to be given.

I apologise to the right hon. Gentleman and to the House. The circumstance in which it was necessary to make the statement now was as follows. A question was down in the name of one of my hon. Friends asking for information on this particular point, and it was just shut out owing to Questions having been rather long continued. It would have been a pity not to get the statement out at once for financial reasons which would occur, of course, to the right hon. Gentleman, and the only other way to get it out was by a statement now. I apologise for not having given notice before.

We have had no opportunity of considering it in order to put questions. I am really asking that when a statement of this kind is to be made we should have a sight of it beforehand.

In view of the importance of the statement that the right hon. Gentleman has just made and the impossibility of gathering all that it contains merely from hearing it, will the House have any opportunity of discussing it?

The Command Paper—a White Paper—will be available, I hope, this evening and will give all the information. Perhaps if my hon. Friend arid others will consider it, then we might consider whether it is necessary to carry it any further.

Will the right hon. Gentleman define rather more closely the words "non-Reich loans" given in the statement?

May I ask the right hon. Gentleman whether it would be possible to send a resuméof the agreement to East Anglia at once?