Employment And Wages (Returns)
Statistics
1.
asked the Minister of Labour what is the reason for the small percentage of Returns furnished by employers in certain industries and published in the Ministry of Labour Gazette?
I assume that the hon. Member refers to the monthly returns which are voluntarily supplied by employers in certain industries, giving particulars as to the numbers of workpeople in their employment and as to the number of days worked or amount of wages paid. Comprehensive statistics of unemployment in these and other industries are already published in the "Ministry of Labour Gazette," and the object of the returns referred to is to supplement these statistics by particulars indicating the changes in the state of employment at a number of representative works from which comparable information can regularly be obtained. It is not necessary for this purpose that returns should be obtained from all employers, and application is accordingly made by the Department only to a selection of employers who have been supplying returns over a long period.
Is it not a fact that if a larger number of employers provided the Minister with these returns, a far more accurate picture could be obtained of the general industrial position?
We think that, on the whole, we have a representative survey. There are one or two cases which require looking into, but I cannot ask the statistics department of my own Ministry, or indeed business organisations, to undertake this work on the scale suggested.
Unemployment
Assistance
2.
asked the Minister of Labour the average increase paid to applicants by the Unemployment Assistance Board since the circular was issued giving the board's officers discretion to take into consideration the increased cost of living; and the average increase allowed in the Stoke area of the Hanley administrative district?
On 17th January last the average addition to current assessments on account of the special circumstances dealt with in the board's circular, in cases in which such additions were made, was about 2s. both in the country generally and in the board's administrative area of Stoke.
Can the Minister assure us that this 2s. is not the maximum?
Is is an average over the whole country.
The average for each applicant?
The average per applicant.
5.
asked the Minister of Labour whether he is aware that men with four children who received the 5s. a week bonus for babies recently given to workers at Pilkington's glass manufactory, St. Helens, Lancashire, and who are working part time at that factory, have had the whole of their 12s. children allowance deducted from their unemployment pay; under what authority this deduction was made; and what action he proposes to take about the matter?
I have made inquiry and find that in two such cases payment of the benefit allowance for children was suspended for a few days pending consideration of its legality. Payment has now been made.
Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that this is not the first or second case of this kind; does he not remember the case which I brought to his notice about a fortnight ago, and why is it that the responsible officials in cases of this character do not make themselves acquainted with the legal position?
I think there were only two or three cases.
Are we to understand that in all such cases instructions are now issued to Employment Exchange officials asking them to make no reductions in cases where employers make grants of this kind?
That was done.
8.
asked the Minister of Labour the number of unemployed persons in the Aberdare area who, owing to the operation of the means test, are not entitled to any allowance but who are receiving a grant such as dignity money under paragraph 39 of the Unemployment Assistance Board's Explanatory Memorandum, 1936?
I regret that this information is not available. I would remind the hon. Member that the Board cannot grant allowances to persons who are not entitled to them, and that in granting allowances in the circumstances indicated in paragraph 39 of the White Paper they do so by a proper exercise of their discretion under the Regulations.
Cannot the Minister get this information, and has he made any representations to the Board about giving a more generous interpretation to this paragraph of the regulations, especially in view of the statement which he made when introducing the regulations?
I understand that the Board could get this information only by a special investigation. I will call their attention to the point.
9.
asked the Minister of Labour whether the whole of the rebate of rent for children allowed by local authorities is taken into account when assessing for transitional unemployment benefit?
Unemployment allowances are normally adjusted for rent, by reference to the actual rent paid, in the light of recommendations of local advisory committees. Under these recommendations there is frequently a margin within which rent rebates may be granted without affecting the amount of the allowance payable. The rebate schemes, however, vary greatly in character and where necessary the Board's officers discuss their detailed application in any area with the local authority concerned. If the hon. Member has any special case in mind, perhaps he will let me have further particulars.
12.
asked the Minister of Labour whether he is aware that in December, 1937, there were 22,853 able-bodied unemployed persons receiving Poor Law relief in England and Wales; and whether he will take steps to transfer these persons to the Unemployment Assistance Board?
I am not prepared to introduce the legislation which would be necessary for this purpose.
Does the Minister consider it fair that so many unemployed people should come under the Poor Law, and was not the House given to understand that they would be taken over by the Unemployment Assistance Board?
This is merely keeping within the law.
13.
asked the Minister of Labour whether, in view of the reduction in the estimate of expenditure for the Unemployment Assistance Board, he will take steps to abolish the means test?
No, Sir.
Seeing that the expenditure of the Unemployment Assistance Board has been reduced so much, does the Minister not consider that the time has come when this abominable system should be abolished?
I do not agree. It seems to work very well.
Hornchurch (Employment Exchange)
4.
asked the Minister of Labour whether, in view of the hardship and delay caused to unemployed persons in the Hornchurch district of Essex by the fact that they are obliged to report at the Romford Employment Exchange, he will take steps to establish an Employment Exchange for the rapidly increasing population in Hornchurch?
I have this matter under consideration.
Expectant Mothers
6.
asked the Minister of Labour whether his attention has been drawn to the position of women who are within a few weeks of childbirth and who, being unemployed, are under the necessity of attending at the Employment Exchange to draw standard benefit or unemployment allowances; whether he is aware that, although such women are usually held to be capable of work, their chances of obtaining employment are very small; and whether he will consider, in collaboration with the Minister of Health and the Secretary of State for Scotland, the advisability of so amending the law that women within a month of childbirth shall be maintained from National Health Insurance funds?
I have received representations from time to time upon this subject but the proposal which the hon. Member makes is a matter for my right hon. Friends the Minister of Health and the Secretary of State for Scotland rather than for me.
Is not the question directed to whether the right hon. Gentleman should consult with the Minister of Health and the Secretary of State for Scotland?
The hon. Gentleman will understand that the responsibility for any new proposals would be theirs, and that representations must be made, first of all, to them.
Is not the point at issue the necessity for these women attending the Employment Exchanges?
The issue really is whether these women can be maintained from National Health Insurance funds.
In view of the importance of this matter to large numbers of pregnant women in the industrial areas, will the right hon. Gentleman not consult with the Minister of Health and the Secretary of State for Scotland as to the best way of dealing with it?
Perhaps the hon. Gentleman who put down the question will, first of all, approach my right hon. Friends, and if so I shall be quite willing to enter into any discussions that there may be on the matter.
May we take it that we shall have the right hon. Gentleman's sympathy and assistance in any representations which we make to the Minister of Health and the Secretary of State?
I must first know what they are.
Lancashire
7.
asked the Minister of Labour what steps are being taken to relieve unemployment in South-west Lancashire and in other Lancashire districts where unemployment is heavy?
I would refer the hon. Member to Sections 5 and 6 of the Special Areas (Amendment) Act, 1937, and to the answers given to the hon. Members for Westhoughton (Mr. Rhys Davies) and Llanelly (Mr. J. Griffiths) on 10th and 17th February respectively. I would also remind the hon. Member that Lancashire is sharing to a very considerable extent in the employment afforded by the Defence programme, and that three Government factories, together with four agency factories, have been or are being erected in the county. This is in addition to the large number of contracts which have been placed direct with Lancashire firms.
Ex-Service Men
14.
asked the Minister of Labour whether his attention has been drawn to the case of Mr. John Gowley, an ex-service man, of 29, Long Row, Shiney Row, county Durham, who, having been unemployed for 5½ years, obtained work at a colliery on 30th January, worked a full week, and was then dismissed without notice, not because his work was unsatisfactory, but because he had been wounded in the right hand for which he was in receipt of a pension; and whether the manager of the local Employment Exchange has made, or will make, further inquiries into this case, with a view to getting this ex-service man work suitable for his condition?
Inquiries are being made, and I will communicate with the hon. Member as soon as possible.
Will the right hon. Gentleman consider introducing a scheme with the object of providing work for ex-service men suffering from slight disabilities, as employers of labour will not have these men unless they are 100 per cent. fit?
We do give attention to these cases, and I am having this case specially looked into.
Monmouthshire
15.
asked the Minister of Labour the number of unemployed persons transferred from the Employment Exchanges at Crumlin, Abertillery, and Blaina, and the number of unemployed persons who have secured employment outside the area covered by these Exchanges, for each year 1926 to 1937?
I am having the available figures extracted and will circulate a statement in the OFFICIAL REPORT as soon as possible.
Statutory Committee's Recommendations
17.
asked the Minister of Labour whether he has yet received the report of the Unemployment Insurance Statutory Committee upon the financial condition of the Unemployment Fund; when the report will be published; and whether he can make a statement upon the action which he proposes to take upon any recommendations in the report?
Yes, Sir. The Committee's reports on the General and Agricultural Accounts of the Unemployment Fund have been laid and copies will be available to members at seven o'clock to-day. As regards the General Account, the Committee recommend by a majority that there should be an increase from 9s. to 10s. in the weekly rate of benefit in respect of wives and other adult dependants, and an increase in the maximum period of benefit to which contributors with good insurance records are entitled. The cost is estimated at £1,500,000 per annum, and is to be covered in part through repayment of £20,000,000 of debt out of reserves. As regards the Agricultural Account, the Committee recommend that the waiting period should be reduced from six to three days, that the joint weekly rate of contributions in respect of contributors aged 18 and upwards should be reduced by ½d. for each party, that the weekly rate of benefit for young men between the ages of 18 and 21 should be increased from 10s. 6d. to 12s., and that the condition requiring payment of ten contributions as a requalification for benefit should be abolished except where the applicant has drawn the maximum period of 300 days of benefit in the year. The cost is estimated at £222,500 per annum. I propose, subject to Parliamentary approval, to give effect to these recommendations.
While appreciating the advance, may I ask the right hon. Gentleman what is the total amount of the balance now in the fund at his disposal and what is the amount that it has been decided to pay off the debt? Will not the balance allow of a larger rise?
Perhaps the hon. Gentleman will await the report. The amount to be applied to repayment of debt is £20,000,000. The remainder of the balance is a prudent reserve against any bad times that may come. There is also a surplus of about £7,500,000 which will help to finance these and other improvements over a cycle of eight years.
Are we to take it that it has actually been decided to take £20,000,000 in repayment of debt?
That is so.
Would not that make it possible to give higher advances?
No; £20,000,000 means £500,000 a year.
Cotton Industry Workers
18.
asked the Minister of Labour whether he is now in a position to state whether he can do anything to assist the workers in the manufacturing section of the cotton industry in Lancashire who are suffering from underemployment as distinct from unemployment?
As I told the hon. Member last week, I should like to know what is in his mind. Perhaps he will have a talk with me.
Has the right hon. Gentleman considered the representations made to him on this subject two years ago? He knows quite well what is in my mind in asking this question.
The hon. Member knows as well as I do that this question may mean half a dozen different things. I should very much like to have a serious talk with him about it.
Seasonal Workers, Glasgow
19.
asked the Minister of Labour the number of persons defined as seasonal workers who failed to qualify for unemployment benefit in Glasgow for the years 1936 and 1937, respectively?
I am having the available figures extracted, and will circulate a statement in the OFFICIAL REPORT as soon as possible.
Will the right hon. Gentleman consider the point of view that these seasonal workers, by undertaking employment, show a desire for permanent employment, and will he consider a revision of the regulations with a view to modifying them?
We have already reviewed them and modified them since I have been Minister of Labour, and I know of no reason for going further at the moment.
Will the right hon. Gentleman consider the point that many of these people, by undertaking seasonal employment, show their desire for work?
Since the Anomalies Act was passed in 1931 there are a large number of seasonal workers who have never even been back to the exchange to register
Minister's Tour
20.
asked the Minister of Labour whether, as a result of his recent tour of various unemployed centres, he has formulated new schemes to deal with unemployment; and has he any statement to make?
I have at present nothing to add to the answer which I gave on 17th February to a similar question put by the hon. Member for Llanelly (Mr. J. Griffiths).
Can the right hon. Gentleman suggest when we can place a question on the Paper and receive an adequate answer?
That is a matter for discussion on the Estimates, and that remains with the hon. Gentleman's Leader.
Washington Hours Convention
10.
asked the Minister of Labour what steps have been taken by the Governments who were parties to the Washington Hours Convention Act to ratify the same; and will he give particulars of the present position and the conditions specified by the various Governments?
I assume the hon. Member refers to the Convention on Hours of Work in Industry which was adopted by the first International Labour Conference at Washington in 1919. This Convention has been ratified by 18 countries and conditionally ratified by four countries. I will, with the hon. Member's permission, circulate in the OFFICIAL REPORT a list showing the names of these countries and the conditions, if any, which they have specified.
Will the Minister ascertain what are the conditions on which Germany will agree to ratification?
Following is the list:
Ratified: Argentine, Belgium, Bulgaria, Canada, Chile, Colombia, Cuba, Czechoslovakia, Dominica, Greece, India, Lithuania, Luxemburg, Nicaragua, Portugal, Rumania, Spain, Uruguay.
Conditionally Ratified: Austria (only to be put into force when it has also been ratified by the European States of chief industrial importance which are Members of the International Labour Organisation and also by the States bordering on Austria with which Austria has economic relations); France (only to have effect when also ratified by Germany and by Great Britain); Italy (to date from the day when the Convention has also been ratified by Germany, Belgium, France, Great Britain and Switzerland); Latvia (to come into force when also ratified by three of the States of chief industrial importance within the meaning of Article 393 of the Treaty of Versailles).
Catering Trade (Labour Conditions)
11.
asked the Minister of Labour whether, in view of the low wages and long hours of labour prevalent in the catering trade, the Minister will consider the advisability of setting up a trade board to regulate the conditions of employment in that trade?
I have no recent information concerning conditions in this trade. If the hon. Member will furnish me with any information in his possession I shall be glad to give it consideration.
Is the right hon. Gentleman aware of the report of the special committee which was set up to consider the case and the recommendation which was made then for the establishment of a trade board?
That was in 1913, and I have not any recent information.
In view of the fact that the right hon. Gentleman is now dealing with conditions of employment in the retail distributive trades, and also that he has been good enough to promise an inquiry into the conditions of employment in the licensed trade, will he not consider making some inquiry into the catering trade at the same time?
These things keep me fairly busy, and the hon. Member must not seek to place too many burdens on my shoulders.
Shop Workers (Conditions)
16.
asked the Minister of Labour whether he has considered a report on wages, hours, and conditions of shop workers submitted to him from a joint committee of employers' organisations and trades' unions; whether he is satisfied that this report also represents the views of small individual shopkeepers; and, if not, whether he will do his best to obtain them?
I received the report only a few days ago and, therefore, I am not yet in a position to make any observations upon it. According to my information the employers' organisations concerned are representative of all classes of employers.
May I ask the right hon. Gentleman which organisations are considered representative of the views of the "one-assistant" shopkeeper?
When I had my first discussion nearly two years ago on this matter there was a very large and representative gathering, and every point of view has been represented on the committee which has been engaged on this subject for 18 months.
Is it not a fact that every organisation representative of the small shopkeepers of the type described in the question was fully represented at that conference?
Glasgow Exhibition (Ministry Of Labour Pavilion)
21.
asked the Minister of Labour whether his Department will be represented at the Glasgow Empire Exhibition; and, if so, in what manner?
Yes, Sir. A small pavilion is being set up in the grounds of the exhibition at which various aspects of the Ministry's work will be illustrated and facilities for giving information to inquirers will be available. It is hoped, also, that certain films of the Ministry's work will be shown in the exhibition's film theatre.
Does this mean that within this Pavilion there will be a model of an employment exchange with notices of the regulations, penalties and scales of benefit, and will the lectures include instruction to foreigners on how to keep and feed a child on 3s. a week?
The work of the Ministry will be illustrated there. The hon. Gentleman is doing his constituents no good service by pretending that we have not the finest service in the world.
Is the right hon. Gentleman's Department represented at the strike of workers that is now taking place at the Exhibition?
We are always in touch.
On a point of Order. The right hon. Gentleman made an assertion that in my question I was trying to injure my constituents, and I want to ask whether his assertion is proved by the recruiting figures and the number of physical defectives?
That is not a point of Order.
Racecourse Betting Control Board
22.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he is aware that since the establishment of the Racecourse Betting Control Board £220,627 has been allotted by the Board to purposes connected with the sport of horse-racing, and only £19,650 to purposes conducive to improvements of the breeds of horses; and on what grounds such a small allocation to horse-breeding is justified?
I am assured by the Board that they have made every effort to allocate the available funds to the various objects specified in the Act in the manner which in their judgment is most advantageous. The amount of money which can advantageously be allocated in the form of direct grants for improving the breed of horses is limited, but it must be remembered that sums allotted for the improvement of horse racing do operate, either directly or indirectly, for the benefit of horse breeding. In particular, some 35 per cent. of the grants made by the Board for purposes connected with horse racing have been allotted to the provision of increased stake money, and this is a direct encouragement to thoroughbred horse breeding, on which the maintenance of the standard of other horse breeding largely depends.
Air-Raid Precautions
23.
asked the Home Secretary whether he will arrange for statutory rules and orders, circulars, handbooks, and other printed documents issued by his Department in connection with air-raid precautions to be available in the Vote Office for Members of this House?
A complete set of all documents published by the Stationery Office in connection with air-raid precautions has been placed in the Library of the House for the convenience of Members. Copies of the handbook which is being issued shortly to the air-raid personnel of local authorities will be supplied specially to the Vote Office. Further documents will be added as they are published and Members requiring such publications may obtain them in accordance with the usual practice on application to the Controller of the Stationery Office, through the Vote Office.
Will they be obtainable with the pink form?
With the green demand.
25.
asked the Home Secretary whether, in view of the proved value in Barcelona of underground air-raid shelters, he has considered the feasibility of constructing such shelters under the squares and open spaces in London and elsewhere, and reducing the cost of such shelters by utilising them normally for parking motor cars?
Under the Act the duty of making arrangements for the provision of such shelters for the protection of the public as may be necessary rests upon the local authorities. Air-raid shelters specially constructed for this purpose would not necessarily be suitable as garages, though underground garages could, in certain circumstances, afford protection in air raids, and in considering any proposals for the construction of underground garages local authorities will doubtless keep in mind the suggestion of my hon. and gallant Friend.
Can the hon. Gentleman inform the House whether the Home Office have formed any opinion as to the desirability of the construction of shelters for the public?
My right hon. Friend will be issuing a circular in regard to that as affecting local authorities very shortly.
28.
asked the Home Secretary whether he considers the declaration made by special constables under the Special Constables Acts, 1831, 1914, and 1932, is appropriate for members of the observers corps whose duties involve watching for hostile aircraft; and whether he has ascertained, or will ascertain, the views of the chief constables of counties and county boroughs as to the desirability of transferring all responsibility for this corps to the Royal Air Force under whom they come for operational purposes?
As was stated in a reply to a similar question given by the Under-Secretary of State for Air on 9th February, experience over a number of years has shown that the status of special constables provides a satisfactory method of meeting the requirements of the Observer Corps. Having regard to the great national importance of the duties of these men, I do not consider that this status, or the declaration which the men are required to make, is inappropriate. I have recently obtained the views of representative chief constables on the matter, and though there was some divergence of opinion, my Noble Friend the Secretary of State for Air and I are satisfied that there is no ground for altering the present arrangements.
Will my right hon. Friend also bear in mind that the vast majority of the members of this corps would much prefer such a transfer?
My information does not confirm that view.
29.
asked the Home Secretary the number of local authorities who are in process of training air-raid wardens in their duties?
As the hon. Member is no doubt aware the organisation of services of air-raid wardens is one of the duties put upon local authorities by the Act. While some authorities have made more progress than others, I am informed that generally the organisation of this work is in hand in practically all areas.
Has the hon. Member any information as to the number of those who are in training as air wardens?
We shall have more information when the schemes are submitted by the local authorities.
46.
asked the Home Secretary what preparations the West Riding County Council have made in connection with the burning pit stacks in the event of an air raid?
I am not aware of any preparations by the West Riding County Council, but as my right hon. Friend stated in answer to a question by the hon. Member for Leigh (Mr. Tinker) last Monday, the problems involved by these burning heaps in time of war are under examination.
Up to now, has the Home Secretary had no information whether they will decide either to cover or to put out these pit stacks? Is the Under-Secretary aware that there are stacks burning to-day which are as big as this Chamber and that at night they can be seen for 200 miles? An aeroplane in Germany can almost see them. Will the Home Office do something to get them put out?
It will be for the West Riding County Council, when they submit their scheme, to consider whether any provision ought to be included in it for dealing with this matter. I will ask our regional inspector to be specially ready to assist them with technical information.
Shops Acts
24.
asked the Home Secretary whether he will consider some amendment to the Shops Act, 1934, in view of the present anomalies whereby it is possible on the half-day closing to purchase from chemists a tooth brush and tooth paste, but not a shaving brush and safety razor, and in view of the fact that many retailers are unable to interpret the Act in numerous instances similar to the one given?
Under the Shops Act, 1912, shops are required to close for a weekly half-holiday, but various exemptions are provided including an exemption for the sale of medicines and medical and surgical appliances. My hon. Friend will appreciate that in legislation of this character some special exceptions must of necessity be provided, and that where there are exceptions there must always be border-line cases. I do not see how such cases are to be avoided by any amendment of the law, short of abolishing the exemptions altogether.
Does my right hon. Friend realise that it is impossible to interpret this Act, and that the numerous cases throughout the country surely demand a good deal more common sense in the Act?
I am afraid that I cannot admit my hon. Friend's assumptions.
36.
asked the Home Secretary whether as, since the passing of the Shops Act, 1912, the banks in the city now close on Saturdays at 12 noon instead of at 1 p.m., and as the city shops need not therefore remain open until 1.30 p.m. in order to allow bank clerks to do their shopping, he will consider amending the Act to enable these shops to close at 1 p.m.?
The Shops Act, 1912, requires all shops to close not later than one o'clock on one day in every week, but a local authority may in certain circumstances by order exempt any class of shops from this requirement, either altogether or by fixing a later hour not later than two o'clock. I understand that in the City of London one or two classes of shops have been exempted up to 1.30 p.m., but that most shops have been exempted altogether from this requirement, though in practice they mostly close at 1.30 p.m. on Saturdays. If action is to be taken in the direction desired by my hon. Friend, this can be done under the existing law, either by voluntary arrangement on the part of the occupiers of the shops concerned, or alternatively by revocation of the orders of exemption now in force if a majority of the occupiers are in favour of that course.
Could not these bank clerks do their shopping on some other day than Saturday?
Boys On Probation
26.
asked the Home Secretary whether he will consider the advisability of terminating the system of employing on nightwork boys of 16 years of age who have been placed on probation with a condition of residence in a hostel?
I am not aware of any system of placing boys from probation hostels in employment involving night-work, and I believe much care is taken to find suitabe work for probationers. If the hon. Member has in mind some particular case and will send me particulars, I will consider them.
I shall be pleased to supply particulars to the right hon. Gentleman of night work being given to boys under those conditions.
Transport
Motorists (Manslaughter Sentences)
27.
asked the Home Secretary whether, in connection with the proposals for penal reform, he will consider the amendment of the existing law as it applies to motor car drivers and other drivers convicted of manslaughter whereby sentence of imprisonment may be imposed on such offenders, with a view to substituting for such sentence the penalty of a heavy fine and permanent loss of driving licence, bearing in mind that the offenders, though admittedly a danger to the public, are not criminally-minded and should not be classed as, and with, criminals?
Any amendment of the law on the lines suggested would be more appropriate in a Bill amending the Road Traffic Acts, but it must not be taken that I assent to the premises contained in my hon. Friend's question.
Proposed Severn Bridge
78.
asked the Minister of Transport whether he is now in a position to make a statement with reference to the construction of a bridge over the Severn River?
I regret that I am not yet in a position to make a statement on this matter. Perhaps the hon. Member will allow me to communicate with him when I am able to do so.
Can the Minister say when he will be in a position to make a statement on this matter, which is of such great importance to South Wales?
I am aware of the importance of the matter, and I am doing what I can to expedite a decision.
Canals
79.
asked the Minister of Transport whether anything has yet been done to implement the recommendation of the Royal Commission on Transport of 1931, that he should take steps to set up public trusts which would acquire such canals as he considers it would be in the national interest to preserve and improve?
No, Sir. I have no powers under which I could take the action proposed. My hon. and gallant Friend will be aware that since 1930 considerable improvements have been made in certain of the more important waterways.
Birmingham-Wolverhampton Road (Repair)
80.
asked the Minister of Transport what steps are now being taken for the repair of the Birmingham-Wolverhampton new road; how many local authorities are involved in the placing of contracts; and whether he will endeavour to arrange for the more effective method of one contract being placed for the whole road?
The county councils of Stafford and Worcester, as my agents, are maintaining these lengths of trunk road. They are employing direct labour so that the question of contracts does not arise. The sections within the three county boroughs are not trunk roads, and I have no power to make grants for their maintenance, which is covered by the block grants to those authorities.
In view of the importance of encouraging transport, and, indeed, the flow of ideas, between Wolverhampton and Birmingham, will the right horn. Gentleman give this matter the most rapid attention he can?
Police And County Courts
30.
asked the Home Secretary the amounts received in fines from police court proceedings in 1936 and 1937, respectively, indicating the amounts received by the Treasury and the amounts received by the police authority, and giving separately the amount the Treasury receives from road fines, and the amount allowed to the police authority for England and Wales, respectively?
As the answer includes a number of figures I will, with the hon. Members's permission, circulate it in the OFFICIAL REPORT.
Following is the answer:
The amounts of the fines imposed by Courts of Summary Jurisdiction received by the Exchequer in the years 1936 and 1937 were £367,879 15s. 1d. and £379,190 10s. 4d., respectively. These sums include £356,636 19s. 4d. and £367,750 14s. 7d., respectively, in respect of fines imposed under the Roads and Road Traffic Acts. I regret I have no information as to the amount of the fines received by the local or police authorities
31.
asked the Home Secretary what grant is made to police authorities in England and Wales towards the salaries paid to clerks to justices and their staff; what grants are paid for the upkeep of the police courts; and what grant is given towards county courts?
No Exchequer grant is payable in respect of the salaries of clerks to justices. As regards the second and third parts of the question, I would refer the hon. Member to the reply which I gave to his question on 28th February.
41.
asked the Home Secretary whether he will include in the terms of reference to the Departmental Committee on conditions of service of clerks to justices the question of establishing a uniform procedure of issuing receipts for moneys paid into court?
The failure of some clerks to adopt proper systems of giving receipts is one amongst several questionable economies which have resulted from the statutory provision that the clerk shall be paid an inclusive sum to cover both his expenses and his personal remuneration, with the consequence that the more he spends on clerical assistance, postage, etc., the less may be his personal remuneration. To review this system of payment will be one of the functions of the proposed committee.
Young Persons (Employment)
33 and 34.
asked the Home Secretary (1) whether he will publish the results of his inquiries from local elementary education authorities as to the present amount and nature of the employment of school children in their areas;
(2) whether he will publish the results of his questionnaire to councils of counties and county boroughs as to the number of young persons engaged or employed in street trading and the nature of the employment?
When all the returns are received and summarised I shall certainly consider the best method of making the information available to the public.
Jury Service
35.
asked the Home Secretary whether he will consider exempting from jury service small business men working on their own account, since such men have to suspend work during their jury service and thus receive no payment of any kind?
Legislation would be required to give effect to this suggestion, and I am not in a position to give any promise of legislation on this subject.
Metropolitan Police
Crime Inquiries, Gloucestershire
37.
asked the Home Secretary particulars of the number of Metropolitan officers who have been actively engaged during the previous weeks on inquiries into the murder of Captain Butt; and upon which authority will fall the cost for the use of the police officers so engaged?
Chief Constables of the county and borough police forces are entitled to enlist the aid of Scotland Yard detectives in the investigation of serious alleged crimes. One chief inspector of the Criminal Investigation Department and one sergeant of the Metropolitan Police Force have been engaged in assisting the Gloucestershire Constabulary in the case referred to, and the cost of their services will be borne by the Metropolitan Police Fund.
Can the right hon. Gentleman say whether it is a fact that those two officers were also engaged in dragging operations?
No, Sir, not without notice.
Training
47.
asked the Home Secretary the number of men who have been trained in the Metropolitan police schools and colleges during the five years ended 31st March, 1937; and how many of these are now serving in the Metropolitan Police Force?
During the five years ended on 31st March, 1937, 3,628 candidates were trained in the Metropolitan Police Training School, of whom 2,883 are now serving in the Metropolitan Police Force. Up to the same date, 122 men had completed their training in the Metropolitan Police College, which opened in May, 1934. One hundred and twelve of these men are now serving in the Metropolitan Police Force.
Would the Home Secretary explain why so many of the people who are trained in this college are not serving in the Metropolitan Police, and whether they have left in dissatisfaction?
The hon. Member had better put that question down, when I will give him the information.
Leicester Prison (Electric Light)
38.
asked the Home Secretary whether, in view of the fact that electric light has been installed in the chapel of Leicester prison by the generosity of the visiting justices, he will now arrange for the remainder of the prison premises to be lighted with electric light forthwith?
Electric light is being installed in His Majesty's prisons in accordance with a general programme, and it is hoped that the necessary work will be started at Leicester prison towards the end of the coming financial year.
Can the Home Secretary say why the chapel was the first place chosen for electric lighting?
Pentonville Prison (Stokers' Wages)
39.
asked the Home Secretary whether he will consider revising the scale of wages for stokers at Pentonville prison in view of the fact that in some cases the wives of these men have to go out to work to supplement the wage of £2 8s. weekly so that high rents may be paid?
The present rate of wages for these employés is 53s. 6d. a week, less statutory deductions of 1s. 7d. a week. The Prison Commissioners have under consideration representations regarding the rates of pay of stokers, but they propose to defer any decision on this question until the claim of prison officers for a revised scale of pay, which is about to be submitted to arbitration, has been disposed of.
Lift Accident, Folkestone
40.
asked the Home Secretary the cause of the lift accident at the Grand Hotel, Folkestone, on Saturday, when a boy, aged 17, was found dead in the well of the lift where he was employed?
I have obtained a report on the inquest. The verdict was accidental death; there was no direct evidence as to the cause of the accident and in the circumstances I should prefer not to express any opinion.
Fascist Meeting, Stratford
42.
asked the Home Secretary whether he is aware that, notwithstanding the protests and petitions from the residents of and around Rosher Road, Stratford, a meeting of Fascists was there held on Sunday morning, 27th February, and that, as a result of the consequent disorder, four onlookers were arrested; whether he is informed through the uniformed policeman, who took shorthand notes of the proceedings, that two Fascist speakers repeatedly used insulting language to the audience; whether he will take the necessary steps to prosecute the speakers for action calculated to cause a breach of the peace; and whether, in view of the fact that the area is a thickly populated industrial area, and many workers engaged on nightly duty need daytime rest, he will ensure that no more such meetings are held there?
I have made inquiries and am informed that four persons who were hostile to this meeting were arrested and charged with using insulting words and behaviour, but so far as the police were able to hear the speakers amid much interruption they heard nothing to warrant the institution of proceedings against them. As the hon. Member knows, the police have no power to prohibit lawful meetings, and the fact that a meeting in a particular district may be unwelcome to the inhabitants of that district does not make it unlawful.
Can the Home Secretary say why the chief inspector of the neighbourhood climbed on to the back of the van from which these speakers were addressing the audience and warned one of them in respect of his conduct? Why did the inspector take such action if he heard nothing to warrant interference? In view of the fact that I was there, may I further ask whether it is not a fact that a policeman took a full shorthand note, and whether, following a warning from the inspector, one of the Fascists referred to the audience as "scum" and another referred to them as "hook-nosed unmentionables"? [HON. MEMBERS: "Speech!"] It may be a speech, but this is a very serious matter, and I want to know whether the Home Secretary will have the shorthand notes presented to him in longhand and let me, as the Member for the division, peruse them with him, as I was present and know that insulting behaviour took place?
I have given the House the information at my disposal, and if the hon. Member has any further information I hope he will communicate it to me.
Prisoners ("Cat" Sentences)
44.
asked the Home Secretary whether the men sentenced for the Mayfair jewel robbery have undergone any part of the sentence of a varying number of strokes of the cat?
I am informed that the full sentences of the court were carried out on the 1st instant.
Does not my right hon. Friend think this would be a good punishment for all those convicted of sabotage or giving away official secrets?
Has the attention of the right hon. Gentleman been called to the sadistic effect of these sentences on a section of the public, and in view of that and the grave consequences to all men who are sentenced to this form of punishment, will he seriously consider bringing such form of punishment to an end?
The hon. Gentleman has raised a much wider question, and I could not answer it in the form of a supplementary answer.
Does not my right hon. Friend deplore the undue publicity given to the execution of these sentences by a section of the Press and by questions in Parliament? Has there been any leakage of information from the prison, and, if so, will he take action?
I have answered the question on the Paper, and perhaps my hon. Friend would like to put down another question.
Foreign Policy
45.
asked the Prime Minister whether the French Government have been consulted by the British Government, and have agreed with their view, that tinder existing conditions the collective system of the League of Nations cannot be considered as operative as regards Article 16 of the Covenant; and whether France has been consulted, and agreed to negotiations between Great Britain, France, Germany, and Italy, excluding Russia, for a general European settlement?
If the hon. Member will look at the reports of the statements I made in the House on 21st and 22nd February, he will find a full expression of my views on the subjects to which he refers. I could not accept in all respects the interpretation which he places upon my remarks. As regards the attitude of the French Government, the hon. Member will no doubt have been able to inform himself from the reports of the proceedings of the recent debate in the French Chamber. With regard to the second part of the question, there is no proposal at present, so far as I am aware, of the kind to which the hon. Member refers. But I need hardly repeat what has already been made plain on more than one occasion that His Majesty's Government intend, as in the past, to remain in close consultation with the French Government on all matters of common concern to the two Governments.
Casual Wards Glamorgan
55.
asked the Minister of Health whether he is aware that the distances between casual wards in the rural parts of Wales are unreasonably long, and whether he will take steps to see that, in any new arrangements in Glamorgan, the distances between wards will be reduced?
I am aware that some of the distances between casual wards in Wales are rather long, and in considering any-new arrangements which may be submitted to me for Glamorgan, I shall certainly have regard to the distances between the wards.
Education
Necessitous Schoolchildren (Footwear)
50.
asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Board of Education whether the Board will authorise expenditure by local education authorities for the purchase of children's footwear in needy cases; and, if so, whether the expenditure will rank for grant?
Under the existing law, the Board have no power to authorise expenditure by local education authorities on the purchase of footwear for necessitous schoolchildren, or to pay grant in respect of such expenditure.
Does the Board pay grant for gymnasium shoes for physical exercises and training?
I think so.
Teachers (Paris Course)
51.
asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Board of Education whether he is aware that 200 English and Welsh teachers will visit Paris at Easter as the guests of the French Government; and what arrangements have been made for this visit?
Yes, Sir. The Board, in co-operation with the British Institute in Paris, have arranged a course for teachers of French in secondary schools in England and Wales. The proposal to hold the course has produced a gratifying expression of interest from the authorities of the University of Paris, who, acting in agreement with the French Ministry of National Education, have undertaken to meet the whole of the expenses of the organisation of the course and of the provision of the necessary lecturers. In addition the University of Paris have placed the amenities of the Sorbonne at the disposal of the members of the course. My Noble Friend would like to take this opportunity of expressing his great appreciation of the generous help and co-operation of the French Government, which he has already conveyed to the French authorities.
Will the Board consider giving a similar invitation to French teachers to visit England, in order to encourage these desirable exchanges?
I hope that that will take place next year.
Does not the Board think that the Italian language will be more necessary to the school children in the future?
Housing
Weardale And Barnard Castle
56.
asked the Minister of Health the number of houses necessary to re-house people under overcrowding proposals in the Weardale Rural District, Barnard Castle Urban District, and Barnard Castle Rural District, respectively; and how many such houses have been completed in each district?
The number of houses found to be overcrowded in the three districts to which the hon. Member refers was 136, 28, and 147. I am as yet unable to give precise information as to the number of new houses which will be required to abate this overcrowding. No houses for this purpose have yet been completed.
Is the Minister satisfied with the progress that has been made in these districts?
I would like to see more progress made.
57.
asked the Minister of Health the number of houses scheduled for slum clearance in the Weardale Rural District, Barnard Castle Urban District, and Barnard Castle Rural District, respectively; and the number of new houses completed under slum clearance schemes in each district?
The slum clearance programme of the local authorities for the three districts mentioned comprise 75, 140, and 128 houses, respectively. The numbers of replacement houses completed are 14, 50, and 4.
Subsidy
58.
asked the Minister of Health whether he has considered the resolutions from the Stoke-on-Trent City Council and the Bridlington Borough Council urging him to revise his proposals so as to provide that such new Exchequer contributions shall be payable in respect of all houses erected for overcrowding, including those in construction at the present time, completed after 31st March, instead of 31st December, 1938; and what action is it proposed to take on this matter?
An amendment dealing with this point is on the Order Paper in relation to the Committee stage of the Housing (Financial Provisions) Bill.
Construction And Demolitions
59.
asked the Minister of Health whether, taking the number of houses built since 1918 and the number demolished since that date, he can state the approximate net increase?
I regret that I have no complete information in regard to the number of houses demolished since 1918, as the figures of demolitions furnished to my Department relate only to slum clearance operations. At 30th September, 1937, 151,844 houses had been demolished in connection with those operations. The Ridley Committee on the Rent Restrictions Acts estimated that the total number of houses demolished in England and Wales since 1914 for all purposes other than slum clearance is about 60,000. On the basis of these figures the net increase in the number of houses between 1918 and 30th September, 1937, in England and Wales was in round figures 3,300,000.
May I remind the right hon. Gentleman that we were to have a great war on the slums, and will he say whether this is it?
The figures I have given show that great progress has been made. I do not know what the hon. Gentleman thinks about it.
Do not the Census returns show that between 1921 and 1931 some 200,000 houses were demolished?
That was before the war on the slums.
Town And Country Planning
60.
asked the Minister of Health whether he will consider the advisability, before approving a resolution to prepare a scheme under the Town Planning Act, of satisfying himself that the planning authority is possessed of an adequate and qualified staff or adviser for the purpose of preparing the scheme, and that competent architectural advice will be made use of by the interim development authority in the consideration of proposals submitted during the interim period?
Parliament has entrusted local authorities with the responsibility of preparing planning schemes, and I have no jurisdiction to prescribe the number or qualifications of their staff in this connection. I may, however, say that having regard to the active part now taken by county councils in the preparation of schemes, and to the extension of the joint committee system, the general standard of administration under the Act of 1932 is steadily improving. As regards interim development applications, the hon. Member is aware that the voluntary panels of architects are now widely called into consultation by authorities, and I am ready to bring this system further to the notice of the authority in any area where I have reason to think that it is desirable to do so.
Can the right hon. Gentleman say in how many cases a competent architectural adviser has been available in connection with the scheme?
I will inquire and will let the hon. Gentleman know.
Ranelagh Club Grounds
61.
asked the Minister of Health whether he proposes to institute an inquiry into the conduct of members of the Barnes Corporation in connection with the sale of the Ranelagh Club grounds?
I understand that the corporation have entered into an agreement with the directors of the club to which my hon. and gallant Friend refers, under Section 34 of the Town and Country Planning Act, 1932, with regard to the development of the grounds, and that the validity of this agreement is shortly to be tested in the courts. In the circumstances I can express no opinion on, nor direct any investigation into, the propriety of the council's action.
Birth Rate
62.
asked the Minister of Health the latest figures of the birth rate in the following cases: schoolmasters, clergymen, professional men, and skilled and unskilled wage earners?
The Registrar-General's report upon occupational birth rates in 1931 is not yet complete; and certain advance figures only can be given. As they involve a tabular statement, I will, with my hon. Friend's permission, circulate the statement in the OFFICIAL REPORT.
Can the right hon. Gentleman give the figures for Cabinet Ministers?
Following is the statement:
ENGLAND AND WALES. | |
Occupational Birth Rates, 1931. | |
Crude live birth rate per 1,000 Married Males under 55 years of age. | |
All Married Males (including unoccupied) under 55 years of age. | 95.9 |
Clergymen (Anglican Church). | 70.5 |
Teachers (not Music Teachers). | 59.9 |
Professional Occupations (excluding clerical staff). | 73.5 |
Social Class III, Skilled Workers. | 95.3 |
Social Class V, Unskilled Workers. | 122.2 |
Income Tax
63.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he is aware that certain aged Income Tax commissioners insist on attending meetings for duties which they are unable to perform in a proper manner, and that the Income Tax Codification Committee did not deal with this matter as they deemed it to be outside their terms of reference; and whether he will take steps to secure that in future these duties are performed by persons fully able to perform them?
Any proposal of this character would require legislation, and, on the information at present available, I do not consider that any action in that direction is called for.
64.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer the total amount of discount allowed on the last financial year in respect of prepayment of Income Tax under Schedule D assessment according to Section 159 of the Income Tax Act, 1918; and the number of persons who availed themselves of this allowance during this period?
The total amount of discount allowed in the year to 31st March, 1937. was £69,397, and the number of cases was 2,240.
Does not the right hon. Gentleman agree that, if greater publicity were given to the fact that people can obtain a substantial discount by the prompt payment of Income Tax, many more would avail themselves of it?
The hon. Member may recall that, as a result of some remarks made in the course of the Debates on the Finance Bill last year, a new arrangement was made; and, as far as I understand, arrangements are being made to state in very plain terms on the notice of assessment how discount can be obtained.
Would the right hon. Gentleman consider issuing, with the notice of assessment, a special notice calling attention to that arrangement?
Italy (Credit Facilities)
65.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will give an assurance that there will be no British loan to the Italian Government?
No such loan is contemplated.
Can the Chancellor give an assurance that no such loan will be made?
No such loan has been asked for, and I have no reason to suppose that it will be asked for.
Is not the embargo on foreign loans being lifted for the purpose of assisting the man in question?
If the hon. Member will read the notice dealing with the modifications in the foreign loans procedure, he will see that it refers to quite a different purpose.
66.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will give an assurance that no guarantee at the expense of the British taxpayer will be given for the promotion of additional imports into Italy?
Export credit guarantees are given for the benefit of United Kingdom exporters, and not for the benefit of foreign importers. In the case of Italy, as in the case of any other country, applications will continue, as at present, to be dealt with by the Export Credits Advisory Committee solely on business grounds with a view to assisting United Kingdom export trade.
Is not the right hon. Gentleman fully aware that the Treasury exercise considerable influence, on general grounds, on these export credits; and, in view of the particular conditions of Italian credit at the present time, can he give a more explicit answer to my question?
The right hon. Gentleman will recall that there is an Export Credits Guarantee Department, which, as, he knows, is run as a business concern, with an advisory committee of business men. It deals with all foreign countries, and I do not doubt that the question of credit is one of the questions which are taken into consideration.
Can we take it that no political influence will be brought to bear by the Government on this organisation to give more generous credit to Italy than has been given in the past?
If the right hon. Gentleman will look at my original answer, he will see that I said that applications will continue, in the case of Italy as in the case of other countries, to be dealt with by the Export Credits Advisory Committee on business grounds.
Will the Chancellor bear in mind the fact that the coal trade of Ayrshire is largely dependent on the Italian market?
Have export credits been given recently in the ordinary way of business to Italy?
That question would have to be put down.
Does the answer cover the original dictatorship—that of Russia?
Can the right hon. Gentleman say what at the moment is the rate of interest charged on these export credits?
I should think that it varies, but I do not know.
Foreign Deposits (Interest)
68.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he is aware that the payment of unnecessarily high interest rates on the substantial foreign deposits held in London increases the amount of invisible imports represented by earnings on foreign capital invested in Great Britain; and whether, in view of the growing adverse trade balance, he will take steps to prevent this payment of excessive interest?
I do not regard the particular considerations referred to in the first part of the question as a decisive factor in our balance of payments. The answer to the second part of the question is in the negative. The complicated questions involved are rather a matter for study by the city authorities.
Even if this factor is not a decisive one, is the right hon. Gentleman aware that the policy of the banks is directly contrary to the national interest at the moment?
I do not think that that is a matter of deliberate policy with the banks. The question arises in connection with a large number of different kinds of institutions in the city. It is, as I have said, a complicated matter which seems to me to be one that is suitable for study by the city authorities.
I beg to give notice that I shall raise this matter on the Adjournment.
Tobacco Licences
69.
asked the Financial Secretary to the Treasury the conditions upon which licences to sell tobacco are granted to private householders?
Any person, whether a private householder or not, may take out a licence to sell tobacco at any premises on payment of the proper duty. There are no special conditions attached to the grant of a licence to private householders.
Old Age Pensions
70.
asked the Financial Secretary to the Treasury whether he is aware that Mrs. Elizabeth James, Broncairo, Llanarthney, Carmarthen, who is over 70 years of age, was awarded an old age pension of 10s. weekly on 9th October, 1937, and that the decision was reversed on 12th November, 1937, on an appeal by the pensions officer; that she is an invalid and a grown-up daughter remains at home, therefore, to act as housekeeper; that the household income is 48s. weekly; that her husband, aged 63, has for many years been a pensions contributor under the National Health Insurance Acts; and whether, having regard to the anomalies existing, he will consider the introduction of amending legislation to meet this and like cases of hardship in old age among the working classes?
I understand that the facts are substantially as stated in the question. I am afraid I cannot undertake to introduce amending legislation on the lines the hon. Member suggests, since any attempt, when calculating means for pensions purposes, to allow deductions in cases of incapacity or infirmity in respect of the cost of domestic help would give rise to many difficulties and create many anomalies.
If the amount came from dividends on investments, would not this person, at the age of 70, be entitled to claim a 10s. pension?
Inland Revenue Stamping Department
71.
asked the Financial Secretary to the Treasury whether, in view of the intended transfer to the Stationery Office printing works at Harrow of the bulk revenue stamping now carried out at Somerset House by the stamping department of the Board of Inland Revenue, he will consider, before the transfer is carried out, the question of the resulting inconvenience to commercial interests situate in central London?
Yes, Sir. Any representations which the interests concerned may desire to make on this important aspect of the transfer will receive the most careful consideration.
72.
asked the Financial Secretary to the Treasury whether he is aware that, after a delay of two and a half years, the Board of Inland Revenue has finally rejected a claim for the establishment of the class of unestablished women tellers employed in the office of the director of stamping and is now delaying the reference to the Civil Service Arbitration Tribunal of a claim by the appropriate staff association for a compensatory increase in pay for this class; and whether he will take steps to ensure that the position of members of this class is not prejudiced by the delay on the part of the Board of Inland Revenue in agreeing to terms of reference for the Civil Service Arbitration Tribunal?
I am aware that the Board of Inland Revenue have rejected the claim for establishment of the grade of unestablished women tellers in the office of their Director of Stamping, and that the appropriate staff association has submitted a claim for a compensatory increase in pay. I cannot agree that the board are delaying their consideration of this claim. The claim was received on 2nd February, and the board replied on 11th February asking for certain information, which was furnished on 16th February. The matter is now under active consideration, and will continue to be dealt with as expeditiously as possible. I see no reason to suppose in these circumstances that the position of the officers concerned is likely to be prejudiced.
Agriculture
Cattle Grading, Malton
73.
asked the Minister of Agriculture whether he is aware of the resentment that has been aroused in Yorkshire at the circumstances surrounding the dismissal of the Malton graders on 11th January; whether any complaint at their methods of grading had been made except as a result of visits to the market made by Mr. D. W. Wright, the late inspector supervising the grading at Malton; whether it has been alleged that at any time any of the graders did not act in good faith; and whether the Livestock Commission will either reinstate the three graders or afford them the opportunity of presenting their case at a public inquiry or of appealing against their dismissal?
I am aware that the dismissal of the certifying authority at Malton has given rise to representations. As regards the second part of the question, reports on the unsatisfactory grading at Malton had been made by two other officers, and also by a firm of wholesale butchers. As regards the third part, the grounds on which the appointments were terminated by the Livestock Commission were stated in the reply I gave to my hon. Friend on 21st February, to which I have nothing to add. As regards the last part, I understand that the Livestock Commission see no justification for adopting any of the courses mentioned.
Is the Minister aware that in this period the number of rejections at Malton was one in every five animals, while at another centre looked after by Mr. Wright it was one in every 500; and will he recommend to the Livestock Commission that they should take steps to remove the feeling of injustice that is current throughout the whole of the North of England?
I am aware of the state of things which my hon. Friend mentions; but I am aware that complaints against grading have been going on since the beginning of 1935, and I think the House will agree with me that the Livestock Commission, which has been charged by this House with the administration of the subsidy, should be supported in enforcing proper grading.
I beg to give notice that I shall raise this matter on the Adjournment.
Land Drainage
74.
asked the Minister of Agriculture when he will consult with representatives of catchment and internal drainage boards regarding the working of the Land Drainage Act, 1930?
If my Noble Friend is referring to the amendment of the Land Drainage Act, 1930, I have already asked the Catchment Boards Association to let me have their views on the subject, and I have also expressed my willingness to consider a memorandum on the same subject which, I understand, the recently formed Association of Drainage Authorities proposes to submit to me.
Grassland
75.
asked the Minister of Agriculture whether he is satisfied that sufficient technical knowledge and equipment is available satisfactorily to carry out the ploughing-out of grassland which would be necessary in the event of war?
The technical problems that would arise, and the provision of any additional equipment that might be required in the event of a ploughing-up campaign, have received and are receiving the fullest consideration.
Milk (Quality Bonuses)
76.
asked the Minister of Agriculture what was the total amount of quality bonuses paid for accredited and tuberculin-tested milk and the estimated gallonage on which quality bonuses were paid in Glamorganshire for the years 1936 and 1937?
As the reply contains a number of figures, I propose, with my hon. Friend's permission, to circulate it in the OFFICIAL REPORT.
Following is the reply:
I regret that the information desired is not readily available, as the records of the Milk Marketing Board relating to sales of milk and payments to producers are not kept by counties, but on a regional basis. In 1936, the amount of accredited milk sold through the Board in the South Wales region, which includes Glamorgan, was 6,164,000 gallons, and the quality bonuses paid from pool funds totalled approximately £25,000. In 1937, the amount was 8,622,000 gallons and the total quality bonus paid was approximately £36,000. The quality bonus on tuberculin tested milk was not paid prior to 1st October, 1937, when sales of this milk were first brought within the Milk Marketing Scheme. In the last three months of 1937, 508,000 gallons of tuberculin tested milk were sold through the Board in the South Wales region, the total quality bonus paid amounting to some £4,000.
Pig Industry
77.
asked the Minister of Agriculture whether he is yet in a position to make a statement on the Government's policy towards the pig industry?
I would refer my hon. Friend to the reply I gave him on 1st February, to which I have, at present, nothing to add.
Does my right hon. Friend realise that this delay is causing great unsettlement in the industry; and will he do something as soon as he can?
When are to know something?
Coal Industry
Anthracite (Exports To Canada)
82.
asked the Secretary for Mines whether he has had further consultations with the representatives of the Dominion of Canada with a view to recovering our export trade in anthracite coal with the Dominion during the forthcoming season; and whether he can indicate the result of his consultations?
No, Sir. The decline in exports of United Kingdom anthracite to Canada is due to purely commercial factors outside Governmental control, and has occurred despite the fact that United Kingdom anthracite enjoys a preference of 50 cents per ton over its foreign competitors.
In view of the fact that the Minister says he is taking no action, I should like to ask whether he realises the importance of this market, and whether he is aware that it was built up largely as a result of the efforts of the late Labour Government, and whether the message he wants to give the South Wales miners is that he cannot keep the trade that the Labour party got for them?
I should be very sorry to have it thought that I said that.
That is what it sounded like.
Dispute, Polmaise Pits, Stirlingshire
83.
asked the Secretary for Mines whether he is now in possession of the full information as to the cause of the stoppage of work at Polmaise Nos. 1 and 2 pits, Stirlingshire; can he state the cause of the stoppage; and what action he proposes with a view to bringing both parties together with a view to effecting a settlement?
I have made further inquiries into this matter, but, as the hon. Member will be aware, it is not the practice of my Department to intervene in local disputes except when such intervention is desired by both sides.
Is the Minister aware that there is a charge being made by the men that they are being asked to break the Coal Mines (Regulation) Act, and, that being so, will he be prepared to meet the representatives of the men at the earliest possible moment in order to see that the law is administered properly by his Department?
Any allegation of breaking the law is quite a different matter. I was dealing with the question of intervening in a dispute.
Will the Minister be prepared to meet representatives of the men in order to discuss this point?
If the allegation is made that the law is being broken, I shall look into it, but, when it is a question of intervening in a dispute, I am sure the hon. Gentleman realises that the normal practice of not intervening on either side is most likely to be helpful.
Is the Minister aware that his Department has already communicated with the men, with a view to discussion, and will he be prepared to meet the deputation with me?
I have already-said that I will look into any allegation of breaking the law. Perhaps the hon. Member will have a word with me after, because it is very desirable not to exacerbate feeling.
Mexican Oil (Centralamer, Limited)
86.
asked the President of the Board of Trade whether his attention has been drawn to the attempted purchase of £3,000,000 worth of oil from the Mexican Government by a British-owned firm called Centralamer, Limited; whether the company in question is in receipt of any British Government subventions or subsidies for tramp shipping; and whether he can say where is its registered office?
Reports, some of which have mentioned Centralamer, Limited, have appeared in the Press of purchases of oil by a British company from the Mexican Government, but I have no official information of the transaction. No payment of tramp shipping subsidy has been made to Centralamer, Limited, whose registered office is at 49, Leadenhall Street, E.C.3.
Can the right hon. and gallant Gentleman say when that company was registered, as it has not appeared in the ordinary list?
If the right hon. Gentleman will put that question down, I will find out.
Can the right hon. and gallant Gentleman say whether this oil is really designed for Japanese aggression in China?