South Africa
High Commission Territories
1.
asked the Secretary of State for Dominion Affairs what are the arrangements under which judges are appointed to deal with criminal cases involving the death penalty for any of the inhabitants of the three High Commission Territories of South Africa; whether the judges are under the direct control of the Crown; and by whom are their salaries paid?
The courts in the three High Commission Territories in which criminal cases involving the death penalty are tried are presided over by a judge who was appointed by the High Commissioner for Basutoland, the Bechuanaland Protectorate and Swaziland, and holds office under the Crown. He is paid from the funds of the three Territories.
Are these cases tried by a judge alone, or by a judge and jury as in this country?
There is no jury, but the judge is assisted by assessors, or individuals answering to that description.
Mr Pirow's Conversations
2.
asked the Secretary of State for Dominion Affairs whether he has now any statement to make on his conversations with Mr. Pirow?
When Mr. Pirow was in London a fortnight ago he gave to a number of Ministers here an account of the impressions which he gathered during his journey through Europe, and these were discussed with him. Beyond certain talks on questions of trade and communications, his conversations with members of the Governments of the various countries he visited were informal and personal, and I have no statement to make upon them.
May I ask whether, in the course of his conversations with His Majesty's Government, any discrepancy was discovered between the views of the British Government and the Union Government as regards the cession of Mandated Territories to Germany?
Obviously, I cannot report the upshot of private and personal conversations, but an answer is to be given later on the attitude of the Dominion Governments towards the question of the cession of territories.
Was anything detrimental to British trading interests revealed as a result of these conversations between Mr. Pirow and members of foreign Governments?
Not that I am aware of.
May we take it that His Majesty's Government do not agree with the pessimistic outlook of Mr. Pirow as regards the possibility of war in the spring?
The attitude of His Majesty's Government has been very faithfully stated by the Prime Minister and other Ministers.
5.
asked the Secretary of State for Dominion Affairs whether, on the occasion of Mr. Pirow's visit to this country, the opportunity was taken of considering the adequacy of the arrangements for insuring the naval defence of the South African Union in time of war; and whether any consideration was given to the desirability of the Union Government undertaking a larger share in the joint naval defence of Union territory in the future?
The object of Mr. Pirow's visit was to discuss certain technical aspects of the Defence programme of the Union of South Africa, including questions of naval defence, and the questions involved were settled as a result of discussion with him. As to the details of the discussions, I cannot anticipate any statement which Mr. Pirow may make after his return to South Africa, since this is a matter for His Majesty's Government in the Union of South Africa.
In view of the fact that the Union of South Africa is the only Dominion which has no naval forces of any kind, and in view of the fact that the very existence of the Union depends on naval security, will not my right hon. Friend take an early opportunity of suggesting that the Union Government should contribute some naval units towards the joint defence of Union territory?
I think my hon. Friend is aware that the Minister of Defence in the Union did recently announce the expenditure of very considerable sums of money on the defence of the Union, and a good deal of that, of course, is involved in certain naval defences.
Press Relations Officer, London
6.
asked the Secretary of State for Dominion Affairs whether he will inquire if a Press Officer of the Union of South Africa is to be appointed in London for informing this country on the Union policy in respect to the High Commission Territories; and whether His Majesty's Government have been consulted upon the matter?
I am aware that His Majesty's Government in the Union of South Africa have recently appointed a Press Relations Officer in London; I understand that his duties will be the ordinary duties of a Press Officer, without any particular reference to the matter to which the hon. Member refers. Consultation with His Majesty's Government in the United Kingdom regarding an appointment of this kind is not appropriate.
Is it proposed that a somewhat similar appointment should be made by this Government in the Union itself?
I think the hon. Member has completely misunderstood the purpose of the appointment of this officer. His functions are simply the normal functions of a Press Officer, and I am advised that they have nothing to do with the spreading of this or that view regarding native policy in South Africa.
Mandated Territories (Dominions' Views)
3.
asked the Secretary of State for Dominion Affairs whether the Dominions have been consulted about and concur in the present views of the British Government with reference to the Colonial question?
The recent statements in this House, to which I presume the hon. Member refers, related to the question of transfer of territories under the administration of His Majesty's Government in the United Kingdom, and consultation with Dominion Governments was not, therefore, necessary. The general views of the Dominion Governments on the question of the future of the Mandated Territories under their own administration are well known.
Has any communication been received from the Dominions since the right hon. Gentleman made his statement?
No official communication.
May we take it that the views of the Dominions are exactly the same as those of His Majesty's Government with regard to the cession of Mandated Territories?
I have no reason to suppose that they differ in any way.
Southern Rhodesia (Forced Labour Convention)
4.
asked the Secretary of State for Dominion Affairs whether he is satisfied as to the truth of the allegation in the Hailey Report that native prisoners are leased to private persons in Southern Rhodesia; whether this practice has been abolished in all Colonial territories under the sole control of the Crown; and, as the Southern Rhodesian practice is a violation of the International Forced Labour Convention, what action he proposes to take in the matter?
I am aware of the statement in Lord Hailey's "Survey" that in Southern Rhodesia prison labour is hired to private persons. The practice obtaining in Southern Rhodesia was fully considered prior to the acceptance on behalf of that Colony of the obligations of the Forced Labour Convention. Prison labour in the Colony is, I understand, always under the complete control and direction of the prison authorities, and it was held that this arrangement did not involve "hiring" and was not contrary to the provisions of the Convention.
Do His Majesty's Government approve of this practice, and if not, will they give an expression of their views to the Governor of Southern Rhodesia?
I understand that the view of the authorities in this country is that the practice in Southern Rhodesia does not constitute hiring, and that, therefore, it is not contrary to the Convention which we have signed.
Trade And Commerce
New Zealand
7.
asked the Secretary of State for Dominion Affairs what protest he has had from the Government of New Zealand on the statement made by the Empire Director of the Federation of British Industries respecting our trade relationship with that Dominion in the eventuality of their proceeding with their import-control plans; and will he, in reply, assure the New Zealand Government that this country will do nothing prejudicial to the good relationship existing between Great Britain and New Zealand?
I have received no communication from His Majesty's Government in New Zealand with regard to the statement referred to, and the latter part of the question does not, therefore, arise.
Does not the right hon. Gentleman agree that, in his capacity as Secretary of State for Dominion Affairs, he should be vitally interested in what, surely, is a most deplorable statement made by the Empire Director and one likely to be most prejudicial to the future relationship of this country and New Zealand; and, further, would he agree that, in fact, this particular statement by the Director is likely to accelerate the very process of Imperial disintegration to which he referred?
The authors of the statement were perfectly within their rights in expressing their views on this matter, and I have yet to learn that either the Government or anyone else in New Zealand regard them as having gone beyond their rights in expressing those opinions.
Do I take it that the right hon. Gentleman agrees with the sentiments expressed by the Empire Director?
I did not say anything of the sort, or intend to imply that. I merely said that they were within their rights in stating their own views.
Does not the right hon. Gentleman fully agree that the New Zealand Government have a perfect right to conduct their trade in their own way, without the interference of anybody in this country?
Certainly, but there are certain agreements between the New Zealand Government and this Government, and the New Zealand Government are just as anxious as we are to pursue these trading matters in a spirit of cooperation. I have no doubt that frankness on both sides will help forward that spirit.
Is it not true that the agreements to which the right hon. Gentleman referred have not been violated by the New Zealand Government in a single instance?
Yes, Sir. I have never suggested that they have been violated either in the past or now.
Will the right hon. Gentleman express, on behalf of His Majesty's Government, his disapproval of any attempt being made by financial quarters in this country, to bring pressure to bear on the New Zealand Government because they do not agree with that Government's economic policy?
I think the New Zealand Government are very capable of looking after themselves.
May I ask whether the right hon. Gentleman's interest does not lie far more with the New Zealand Government than with these private concerns?
Weights And Measures
9.
asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he has considered the representations which have been made by the County Councils Associations of Scotland and England in regard to the need for an inquiry into weights and measures legislation, suggesting many lines of amendment and extension of existing legislation which would afford better protection for the public, and that these suggestions cannot be met by amendment or extension of the regulations made under the Weights and Measures Acts; and is he now in a position to say whether he is prepared to introduce the necessary amending legislation?
As I have already explained to the hon. Member, the examination of the regulations is being put in hand and I hope that this examination, which must necessarily take some time, will show that it is possible, by amendment of the regulations, to meet in considerable part the representations by the County Councils' Associations. The question whether a committee of inquiry or legislation is desirable will be considered when the review of existing regulations has been completed.
Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that the County Councils' Associations and their technical advisers definitely challenge the statement that it is possible to deal with the proposals which they have submitted for the consideration of his Department by means of amendments, that only two things can be dealt with by amendment, and that all the other proposals must be of necessity require legislation?
It is in order to see whether that view is correct that I am examining these regulations.
Can the right hon. Gentleman give an indication as to when the inquiry will be completed, as there is doubt on the part of some authorities as to whether amendment of the regulations would be effective from the point of view of the safety of the public, which could be provided for by new legislation?
I think we shall deal with it more speedily and effectively in the way I have suggested.
Film Industry
10 and 11
asked the President of the Board of Trade (1) whether he is aware that the Cinematograph Films Act has not proved beneficial to the British film industry; and what steps he proposes to take to remedy the matter;
(2) whether he is aware that British cinematograph exhibitors are faced with a shortage of feature films, while simultaneously large numbers of persons normally employed in the home studios are out of work owing to the greatly reduced production of such films, due to the lack of financial confidence in the future of the industry; and whether he will take remedial action?The number of long films, both British and foreign, registered since the beginning of April shows a considerable decrease as compared with the same period last year, and I am aware that exhibitors are complaining of a shortage of feature films. I hope that in these altered conditions, new finance may be attracted to British film production. I cannot admit that the effect of the new legislation has not been beneficial to the industry. The average quality of the British films produced this year has undoubtedly improved, and the decrease in their numbers is due to other circumstances.
Is it not the case that if British film production continues as it has been doing during the first eight months of this year, there will be, at the most, only 85 British long films produced in the year, as against 225 last year; that, with the intense American competition, the British film industry cannot exist unless it is protected, and that there is nothing in the Act to encourage British finance to come into the British film industry?
I think there is only one thing which will induce British finance to come into the industry, and that is that the industry should make better films. As I said, there have been signs during the past year that, since the passage of the Act, the quality of the films has improved considerably.
32.
asked the President of the Board of Trade the number of British long films registered in the years ended 31st March, 1937, and 31st March, 1938; and the approximate number which it is estimated will be registered in the year ending 31st March, 1939?
In the year ended 31st March, 1937, 225 British long films were registered and in the succeeding year 228. During the present quota year 68 have so far been registered and six applications are under consideration. I am unable to say how many will be registered during the remaining part of the quota year.
In view of the tremendous unemployment which persists in this industry, will my right hon. Friend consider setting up a commission to investigate the matter?
No, Sir; the recent Act set up a council which will investigate the matter, and they will have to report in a few months' time on the state of the film trade.
Does my right hon. Friend consider that number satisfactory?
No, I should like to see more, but what I consider is satisfactory is that the films which are being produced are better than they used to be.
Is it not a fact that last year the number of British films of good quality produced was twice that of this year?
It depends on what is called "good films."
33.
asked the President of the Board of Trade the number of films in production in England in December, 1937, and to-day?
I regret that I have no official information about the number of films in production at any given time.
Though he has not the exact figures, does not my right hon. Friend agree that they have, at any rate, very much decreased in recent months; and in view of that fact, and of the other fact which he gave in the previous answer, can he still say that the Act has had a satisfactory effect upon the industry as a whole, seeing how many fewer people are getting employment in the industry?
I believe it will have a satisfactory effect, but, as I said in answer to an earlier question, the only sound basis for British films is good quality, and in that respect there has been a very substantial advance recently.
34.
asked the President of the Board of Trade the number of people employed in film production in this country in December, 1937, and to-day; and what percentage of this number are British?
I am afraid that the information is not available.
Rumania
12.
asked the President of the Board of Trade whether, as a result of the visit of His Majesty the King of Rumania to this country, negotiations have been started for a commercial treaty between Rumania and this country?
No. Sir. Commercial relations between Rumania and this country are governed by the Anglo-Rumanian Commercial Treaty of 1930 and the Anglo-Rumanian Payments Agreement which was revised as recently as last September.
Is there no intention of doing anything to further our trade with Rumania other than the export credit guarantee proposals of the Government in the new Bill?
The hon. Gentleman asked me whether we had negotiated a new commercial treaty. I have answered that. What he is now asking goes far beyond his original question.
I have asked the right hon. Gentleman whether he is prepared to go beyond what is proposed in the new Bill and to negotiate a treaty for the encouragement of our trade with Rumania?
Perhaps the hon. Member would put that question down.
Iron And Steel
13, 14 and 15.
asked the President of the Board of Trade (1) whether he is aware that it has been for some time the policy of the British Iron and Steel Federation to eliminate all middlemen and merchants from the business of selling, through their agency, the products of iron and steel manufacturers; and will he consider taking action to prevent this in future;
(2) whether he is aware that old-established factors and agents in the business of selling iron and steel products are not permitted by the British Iron and Steel Federation to place orders to factories which are desirous of making and delivering such manufactures until they disclose who are the principals of such agents; and whether he will take steps to put an end to this practice; (3) whether he is aware that many iron and steel manufacturers are not allowed by the British Iron and Steel Federation, acting through their subsidiary associations, to accept orders from merchants because the latter are not members of their federation, in spite of the fact that many of the factories are working short time, with resulting unemployment; and what action does he propose to take to remedy this situation?I am informed that working arrangements exist between the producers and merchants in regard to the distribution of iron and steel products, but difficulties have recently arisen in certain districts with regard to sales of heavy steel. Discussions are proceeding between the National Federation of Iron and Steel Merchants and the British Iron and Steel Federation with a view to an amicable settlement of the points at issue.
Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that the steel-makers and the shipbuilders have been negotiating and that the price proposed by the makers, which is a reduction of 17s. 6d., does not meet the demand of the shipbuilders who desire that it should be 30s.; and what action are the Government prepared to take to meet the discrepancy between the makers and those who are going to be the users of the steel in the shipyards?
The point which the hon. Member has raised is quite different from that raised in these questions. As I have informed the House, I am in communication with the shipbuilders with regard to the very difficult position of the shipbuilding industry, and I hope we shall be able to find some solution.
Is it not the case that a fortnight ago I put the same question, and the right hon. Gentleman gave me the same answer?
May I ask my right hon. Friend whether the manufacturers of iron and steel are not able to do their business without employing middlemen; and is there any necessity why this additional cost should be put upon the price of the article?
Is it not true that it would be to the general interest of consumers that middlemen should be done away with?
We have had experience, quite recently, to show that whereas everybody joins in a general demand for the abolition of middlemen, when you come down to particular cases there is not the same unanimity. I think it will be found in many instances in the steel trade, that the merchants, with their unique experience of the trade, do, in fact, serve a very useful purpose.
Export Trade
17.
asked the President of the Board of Trade whether, in addition to measures already announced, he proposes to take an early opportunity of informing hon. Members of the schemes in contemplation to improve the position of our export trade?
I have at present nothing to add to the statements which have already been made.
Does not the right hon. Gentleman realise that there is considerable disquietude in export trade quarters in this country, regarding the state of our export trade; and has he seen the report of the Associated Chambers of Commerce on this important matter?
This is not a matter which we can discuss by way of question and answer. We have had several interesting Debates on the subject recently in the House, and I have nothing to add to what was said then.
Do we understand that that is all the right hon. Gentleman proposes to do in connection with our export trade?
Is my right hon. Friend aware that the methods which are now being adopted are all that could be done to accelerate our export trade, and that the Government ought to be complimented on what they have done?
Has anything been done, particularly in relation to the coal trade?
If the hon. Member was in the House on Friday he must have heard the announcement of a very valuable new agreement with France.
Imports And Exports (River Tyne)
19.
asked the President of the Board of Trade the imports and exports in general merchandise traffic in the River Tyne for the first 10 months of 1938, compared with the corresponding period of 1937?
I regret that the desired information is not available, as particulars of the aggregate value of imports and exports at individual ports of the United Kingdom are compiled only in respect of calendar years.
Will the Minister undertake to obtain this information for me?
No, Sir, I am afraid we cannot obtain information of this kind for broken periods. We shall be able to give it for the full 12 months.
Cotton Industry
20.
asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he is aware that the imports of Lancashire goods into Morocco have fallen from £1,250,000 to £50,000, roundly, during the past 10 years, whilst Moroccan exports to this country have recently substantially increased; and what steps are to be taken under the new trade arrangements with Morocco to ensure that this inequitable balance will be remedied?
I am aware that the facts are broadly as suggested in the first part of the question. As regards the second part, my hon. Friend will, no doubt, be aware that a quota system designed to assist exports of United Kingdom cotton goods to French Morocco was provided for in an exchange of notes annexed to the Commercial Treaty signed last July. The enforcement of the quotas, however, depends on the consent, to be obtained by the French Government, of certain foreign Governments possessing treaty rights in Morocco. His Majesty's Government are watching the matter closely and will take any steps in their power to facilitate the entry into force of the quotas.
Is my right hon. Friend going to enter upon new discussions with the French Government?
It is not a question of any fresh discussions, but of seeing that the results of the previous discussions are put into force as soon as possible.
21.
asked the President of the Board of Trade whether, in view of his assurance that the proposals for the reorganisation of the cotton industry are to receive the urgent consideration of the Government, he will endeavour to arrange to pass the relative legislation through all its stages in Parliament during the current Session, provided that he receives satisfactory assurances as to the general approval of the cotton textile industry for its provisions?
28.
asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he is aware of the large volume of opinion in Lancashire that, in view of the present condition of the cotton industry, legislation on the lines of the draft Enabling Bill should be introduced without delay; and whether he will take steps to expedite the action necessary for drafting the Bill and obtaining the approval of those concerned so that the Bill in question can reach the Statute Book early in 1939?
38.
asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he can now give an undertaking that, in the event of a substantial measure of approval being forthcoming for the draft of the Cotton Industry Enabling Bill from the interests concerned, he will arrange for the introduction of the Bill into Parliament at an early date after the Christmas Recess?
The joint committee of cotton trade organisations have just submitted to me a revised draft of their proposals. This draft embodies certain modifications that have been introduced as a result of conversations with various interests affected both in Lancashire and elsewhere, but a number of points of difference that arose in these conversations are still outstanding. I hope, however, that it will be possible early in the new year to complete the drafting of a Bill so that those concerned may have an opportunity of expressing their considered views in regard to its provisions. If the Government are then satisfied that there is a substantial majority of the industry in favour of these provisions, it is their desire to pass a Bill into law this Session.
Can the right hon. Gentleman say that no Bill will be introduced which is against the wishes of the Yorkshire manufacturers?
I have no doubt that the Yorkshire manufacturers will take every opportunity when the Bill is introduced of expressing their views upon it.
27.
asked the President of the Board of Trade the value, in £'s, of the cotton piece goods going from the United Kingdom and from Japan into Belgian Congo, Nyasaland, Tanganyika, Kenya, and Uganda, taken together?
During the year 1937 imports of cotton piece-goods into the Belgian Congo (including Ruando Urundi), Nyasaland, Tanganyika, Kenya and Uganda from the United Kingdom were valued at £350,000 and from Japan at £2,430,000.
Is the Minister aware that his colleague the Secretary for Overseas Trade informed the House on 30th November that the total amount going into the Congo Basin Treaty countries was £1,400,000, and will he draw the right hon. Gentleman's attention to the fact that it now appears the amount is three times what he thought?
The explanation is easy. The hon. Gentleman has included in his question a number of territories to which my right hon. Friend did not refer. The Belgian Congo is not a British colony, and Tanganyika is under the mandate, and no quotas can be imposed even if the Congo Basin Treaty were denounced. That explains the discrepancy.
Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that the statement of the Secretary for Overseas Trade gave the total imports of cotton goods from all countries in the Congo Basin Treaty area, but that I asked only for some of the countries?
I have explained the countries to which my right hon. Friend referred, and they are different from the territories contained in the hon. Gentleman's question.
35.
asked the President of the Board of Trade whether the policy of His Majesty's Government not to accept any new trade agreement with India unless it gives a satisfactory deal to the Lancashire cotton industry, implies that the interests of all other trade between the United Kingdom and India are to be subordinated to a reduction in the Indian import duties on Lancashire textiles?
It is the object of His Majesty's Government to conclude the best agreement with India that can be negotiated in the general interests of this country's trade. While, as I have indicated to the House, the interests of the Lancashire cotton industry in the Indian market call for special consideration, the interests of other industries will not be overlooked.
India
22.
asked the President of the Board of Trade the total amount of the exports from British India to the countries of the British Empire, other than the United Kingdom, during the year 1937?
Figures for the calendar year 1937 are affected by the separation of Burma from India as from 1st April, 1937. During the year ended 31st March, 1938, the total value of exports of Indian merchandise to countries of the British Empire, other than the United Kingdom, amounted to £24,500,000, including about £8,000,000 to Burma.
Does my right hon. Friend realise that that answer means that India has a market of about 70 per cent. of her exports in the Empire, including the United Kingdom, and will he bear that striking figure in mind when he is negotiating with Indian representatives?
Certainly, but, of course, I shall have to take into account what proportion of that is to the self-governing portions of the Empire.
What proportion of that trade is carried in British ships?
I cannot say without notice.
23 and 24.
asked the President of the Board of Trade (1) the total amount of the import duties charged by British India on the £39,104,000 imports into British India from the United Kingdom during 1937, stating the separate amounts charged on the different classes of materials and manufactures, making up the said total of £39,104,000;
(2) the total amount of the import duties charged on the £64,820,000 imports into the United Kingdom from British India during the year 1937, stating the separate amounts charged on the different classes of materials and manufactures making up the said total of £64,820,0400?I regret that the desired information is not available.
Animal Feeding-Stuffs (Imports)
29.
asked the President of the Board of Trade the total imports in 1913 of feeding-stuffs for animals now included in Class I, Group B, of the Trade and Navigation Returns?
During the year 1913 the total imports of feeding-stuffs for animals into the United Kingdom, which then included the whole of Ireland, amounted to 856,000 tons, valued at £4,870,000.
Turkey
30.
asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he is aware that £1,500,000 is still owed to this country by Turkey, mostly to Lancashire cotton concerns, which, until paid, makes it impossible to do further trade with Turkey; and is he prepared to earmark a part of the loan lately arranged for the reduction of this outstanding debt of £1,500,000?
I am aware that a sum of over £1,500,000 is at present awaiting transfer through the Anglo-Turkish Clearing to United Kingdom exporters to Turkey. As was explained by my right hon. Friend, the Secretary to the Department of Overseas Trade, in the Debate in this House on 4th July, the Turkish Government, under the terms of the Supplementary Anglo-Turkish Trade and Clearing Agreement of 27th May, 1938, arrests the accumulation of fresh arrears in the clearing, by limiting imports from this country for which payment is made through the clearing to the amount of the sterling estimated to be available to pay for them. Provision is also made in the Clearing Agreement for reducing the volume of outstanding arrears by the appropriation of substantial sums in connection with the Anglo-Turkish Guarantee Agreement of 27th May which I assume my hon. Friend has in mind in the last part of the question. These arrangements were made after consultation with, and with the general approval of, the United Kingdom trade organisations concerned. I would add that there is no quantitative restriction on United Kingdom goods imported into Turkey under the compensation provisions of the Clearing Agreement.
Cocoa
36.
asked the President of the Board of Trade whether, in view of the present low price of cocoa and the adverse effect which this is having on the British cotton textile export trade, he will consider whether any remedial effects can be achieved by increasing the quantities of cocoa which are being stored in this country under the scheme for increasing the food reserves of the country against emergency?
In view of the commercial stocks normally held in the United Kingdom I do not regard cocoa as a commodity in respect of which action should be taken under the provisions of the Essential Commodities Reserves Act.
Will my right hon. Friend say whether there is any alternative plan in view for meeting the situation due to the low price of cocoa?
That is a different question.
Sugar
37.
asked the President of the Board of Trade what has been the value of sugar imported from foreign countries during the past five years; how this amount was divided among the principal supplying countries; and whether, in the case of any of these countries, arrangements have been made that they shall take an increased import of British cotton textile goods in return for the continued large purchase of their sugar?
During the five years 1933 to 1937 the declared value of the sugar imported into the United Kingdom from foreign countries amounted to £30,118,000. Of this total £15,225,000 represented consignments from Cuba, £5,119,000 from St. Domingo and £3,878,000 from Peru. It is not possible in trade negotiations with other countries to obtain concessions for one particular class of goods on account of imports of some other particular class of goods, but every effort is made when conducting trade negotiations with sugar exporting countries, as with all other countries, to obtain concessions for United Kingdom cotton goods. Such concessions were obtained in the Anglo-Peruvian Trade Agreement, 1936, and every effort will be made to obtain them if trade negotiations with St. Domingo, which are at present in the exploratory stage, are pursued.
Do those figures of imported sugar include sugar molasses?
Perhaps the hon. Member will put that question down.
Can the right hon. Gentleman say why our own British colonies in the West Indies—
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Safeguarding Of Industries Acts
42.
asked the President of the Board of Trade whether Part II, Section 2, of the Safeguarding of Industries Act, 1923, has ever been repealed; and, if not, in view of the fact that Section 3 of Part II of that Act was repealed by the Finance Act, 1930, whether His Majesty's Government still intend to exercise the power to establish antidumping duties within the meaning of the Act of 1921?
The whole of Part II of the Safeguarding of Industries Act, 1921, was repealed by Section 53 and the Third Schedule of the Finance Act, 1930.
Mercantile Marine
British Ships, Spain
8.
asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he has any information in regard to the excessive profits made by British shipping companies trading with Government Spain; and whether seamen receive increased rates of pay, in view of the additional risks incurred?
The answer to the first part of the question is in the negative, and to the second part in the affirmative. I am sending my hon. Friend the circulars issued by the National Maritime Board setting out the particulars of the bonus on wages of seamen on British ships visiting Spanish ports.
Will the right hon. Gentleman also send the hon. Member the number of seamen who have been killed from Hartlepools?
Will my right hon. Friend have the information circulated in the OFFICIAL REPORT, so that it may be available to all hon. Members?
Certainly.
Is it not true that these firms are making enormous profits?
As I said in my answer, I have no official information on that matter.
Foreign-Built Ships
18.
asked the President of the Board of Trade the value of contracts placed by British shipowners for vessels built or building in foreign yards in the past three years?
No, Sir, I have no means of knowing the value of shipbuilding orders placed abroad.
Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that in another place, a figure was given; and does he accept the figure which was then stated?
I do not know what figure was given, and, as I have said, I have no official knowledge of whether it is accurate or not.
Cannot the right hon. Gentleman's Department take the necessary steps to find out the value of these contracts?
No, Sir, we have no power and no means of asking the people who place these contracts abroad, what the prices of those contracts are.
Even with a majority Government?
Is the Minister not aware of the fact that last year Holland built 24,000 tons of shipping for this country?
I have been asked before and have given an answer as to the number of ships and the tonnage. What I cannot do is to give an answer as to the value.
Is it not a fact that the Co-operative Society ordered a ship to be built in Holland?
I am not prepared to answer that.
Lighthouses (Wireless Equipment)
25.
asked the President of the Board of Trade when and where the Commissioners of Northern Lighthouses propose to establish further radio beacons?
I am informed by the Commissioners of Northern Lighthouses that the only radio beacon proposal which they have at present under consideration is for the establishment of such a beacon on the Isle of Stroma in the Pentland Firth.
Are any arrangements made to radiate signals in case of emergency?
This is a proposal to establish a beacon. It is not an established beacon.
Carriage Of Grain
31.
asked the President of the Board of Trade why it was that, at a time when 165 British vessels were laid up in the United Kingdom, including three on the Gareloch, and many other British ships, not laid up, were available for charter, the Government chartered 15 non-British shops, of which 11 were Greek vessels laid up at the Piraeus and elsewhere, and took up to 36 days to report at the port of loading, for the shipping of Rumanian grain purchased by the Government, from the Danube to United Kingdom ports; and whether he will order an inquiry into the circumstances?
I would refer the hon. and learned Member to the answer I gave to my hon. and gallant Friend the Member for Chertsey (Commander Marsden) on 22nd November and to my hon. Friend the Member for Dudley (Mr. Joel) on 6th December. I do not think that an inquiry is necessary.
Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that this matter has caused grave disquiet in the public mind, particularly at a time when unemployment among seamen is verging on 20 per cent. and that the freights paid for these boats, which are known on the Baltic Exchange, are again causing grave disquiet and require an inquiry?
I gave a very full answer, and I think the House felt that in offering preferential rates to British shipowners I have gone as far as possible.
Is not the right hon. Gentleman aware that on 22nd October, when most of the Greek vessels were chartered, a British vessel was refused at the same rate, namely, 20s. per ton, and on the same day—
rose—
In view of the unsatisfactory nature of the reply, I beg to give notice that I shall raise this matter on the Adjournment.
39.
asked the President of the Board of Trade what percentage of lighthouses and lightships around the coast of Britain are not equipped with radio transmitting installations?
As the answer involves a number of figures, I will, with my hon. Friend's permission, circulate it in the OFFICIAL REPORT.
Following is the answer:
Lighthouses and Lightvessels under the control of the Trinity House and the Commissioners of Northern Lighthouses. | |
Total number of manned lighthouses | 144 |
Number of lighthouses with land telephone communication available | 101 |
Number of lightships | 44 |
Number of lighthouses and lightships fitted or being fitted with radio transmission installations | 33 |
Percentage of total number of manned lighthouses and lightships without electrical communications (i.e., land telephones or radio transmission installations) | 30 |
40.
asked the President of the Board of Trade whether his Department will consider taking over the responsibility for the maintenance of the lighthouse, lightship, and other navigational warning service from the present authority?
No, Sir. I consider that the present arrangements under which the superintendence and management of the lighthouses and lightvessels are vested in the General Lighthouse Authorities, subject to the financial control of the Board of Trade, are satisfactory.
41.
asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he will consider introducing legislation to make the equipping of lighthouses and lightships with radio-telegraph and radio-telephony compulsory?
The position in regard to the equipment of lighthouses and lightvessels with radio transmission installations is regularly under review and proposals for the equipment of particular isolated lighthouses and lightvessels are made from time to time by the General Lighthouse Authorities and are considered on their merits. Up to the present time 37 have been or are being so equipped.
What would be the cost of equipping all lighthouses with radio?
I cannot give the exact figure, but it would be a very substantial sum, running to many thousands of pounds.
Gaumont-British Corporation, Limited
16.
asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he is now in a position to make a statement with regard to the application of shareholders of the Gaumont-British Corporation, Limited, lodged on 18th January, 1938, for an investigation into the affairs of that company?
Although the application for the appointment of an inspector to investigate the affairs of Gaumont-British Picture Corporation, Limited, has been under consideration for some time, it has been necessary for a variety of reasons to defer a decision up to the present. I hope, however, to arrive at a decision shortly.
Does the right hon. Gentleman know that his Department made a definite promise some months ago that this matter would be considered at an early date; and as the application has been presented by over 3,000 independent shareholders, will he facilitate an early inquiry?
One of the reasons for the delay is that at one period during the summer these applicants themselves asked that the decision should be held up.
Sea Fish Industry (Personal Accounts)
26.
asked the President of the Board of Trade the number of trawler owners who have received the approval of the Department to alternative methods of rendering personal accounts to skippers and seamen under Part IV of the Sea Fish Industry Act, 1938?
The Board of Trade require that the personal account shall be rendered on a form approved by them, or by means of a pay envelope or ledger account showing the amount of the remuneration due, together with a detailed statement of all deductions. Owners have been given an opportunity to propose other methods of rendering this account but no such proposals have been received.
British Army
Territorial Army Units, Staffordshire
43.
asked the Secretary of State for War whether he can make a statement on the position of the Territorial Army units in Stoke-on-Trent and North Staffordshire; what other units are likely to be formed; what is the state of the equipment of the anti-aircraft units; and whether it is intended to utilise the services of the units in the area itself?
The Territorial field units in Stoke-on-Trent and North Staffordshire as a whole are over establishment. The searchlight battalion was at the end of November slightly under establishment, and has an adequate supply of training equipment. It is not possible to say where any given unit will be used in war.
Warley Barracks (Married Quarters)
44.
asked the Secretary of State for War whether certain vacant quarters at Warley Barracks will be given to the families of married men during reconstruction of their present accommodation, or, if this is not possible, that some allowance will be made towards the expenses involved by temporary removal?
There are no vacant married quarters at Warley. I have arranged that, in this and similar cases, if no suitable lodgings are available at the station concerned, the families may be conveyed at public expense to selected places of residence.
Meat Supplies
53.
asked the Secretary of State for War the total amount of beef, mutton, lamb and pig meat, provided last year for the Army and Air Force stationed in this country; and what proportion of each was imported?
Some 32,200,000 lbs. of beef and mutton were purchased during the 12 months ended 31st March, 1938, for the Army and Royal Air Force at home. Of this quantity, it is known that 31,443,000 lbs. were imported from the Dominions, and 373,000 lbs. from South America. Very small quantities of other kinds of meat, of which details are not available, were provided for hospitals, but, apart from these purchases, no meat other than beef and mutton is provided for the troops. Bacon is purchased by units at home out of a cash allowance, and all bacon so purchased during the period in question was of Canadian origin. Information as to quantity is not available.
Will my right hon. Friend consider whether it would be possible to give encouragement to stock raisers and agriculturists generally by increasing those amounts?
Reserve Officers
54 and 55.
asked the Secretary of State for War (1) how many officers there are in the Regular Reserve; and how many of these officers indicating the ranks thereof, have had any military training of any kind during the year 1938;
(2) What methods are adopted to ensure that officers on the Regular Reserve, who are liable to be called up in a case of emergency, shall be kept efficient and acquainted with up-to-date military developments?The strength of the Regular Army Reserve of Officers was 9,915 on 1st July, 1938, the latest date for which figures are available. Any military training carried out by these officers is at present a matter of arrangement with their former units, and no record has been collated. The provision of training facilities for them is one of the matters to be considered in connection with Army Estimates for 1939.
Will my right hon. Friend bear in mind the great importance of keeping these 9,000 officers efficient and up-to-date?
Does the right hon. Gentleman carry with him his right hon. Friend the Secretary for Overseas Trade on this Vote, and if so will he have the appropriate Section of the Army Act relating to mutiny read to him?
Is any information collected from year to year as to the general health of these officers on the Reserve?
I do not think so.
56.
asked the Secretary of State for War whether, in view of the desirability of knowledge as to the continued efficiency of the Territorial Reserve officers, he will cause to be kept an annual record of those Territorial Reserve officers who attend camp, courses, or otherwise perform military duties?
I will, in considering Army Estimates, see whether this can be conveniently arranged.
Is it not possible to do this before the consideration of the Army Estimates?
My hon. Friend is asking for an annual record, and I thought that that was the most appropriate moment.
Could he not make a decision?
Is it not a fact that the junior Ministers wish the Secretary of State for War to be on the Reserve?
Anti-Aircraft Units, Territorial Army
57.
asked the Secretary of State for War what is the present established strength of the air defence troops of the Territorial Army; and what steps are being taken to increase the establishment?
The establishment of the anti-aircraft units of the Territorial Army on 1st November last was 54,649, and on 1st December last, 87,405. The corresponding figures for strength are 51,302 and 65,870.
Can the Minister answer the last part of the question?
I think that the hon. Gentleman will see that I have answered it. There has been a considerable increase.
Have the cinematograph exhibitors been asked to show the advantages of these Forces?
Recruiting
58.
asked the Secretary of State for War whether area commanders are required to address officers' training corps, both senior and junior, within their areas with a view to encouraging recruitment in the Forces of the Crown, including the Regular Army, the Supplementary Reserve, the Territorial Army and the Officers Emergency Reserve?
There is no requirement, but area commanders do frequently act in the spirit of the question.
Would the right hon. Gentleman consider the desirability of encouraging the tapping of those very good sources of recruiting for these various Forces?
I am aware of the goodness of the sources, but I think that area commanders as a whole do avail themselves of it. I should be very pleased to encourage it in any way possible.
Have area commanders always the gift of eloquence?
64.
asked the Secretary of State for War what are the estimated annual requirements of recruits necessary to maintain the Army at full strength; and whether these requirements are now being fully met?
The number of recruits required depends on the establishment in any particular year. It is estimated that 60,000 recruits may be required for the Regular Army next year. I hope we shall have obtained 40,000 recruits before the expiry of the current financial year.
Do not these figures disclose a rather serious position; and, in view of current events abroad, has the right hon. Gentleman any further proposals for bringing the Army up to establishment at an early date?
The War Office has done its best to exploit the voluntary system to its utmost, and recruiting has been doubled this year as compared with last year.
In view of the right hon. Gentleman's last reply, may I ask whether he is now of opinion that the voluntary system is not capable of fulfilling the requirements of the Army?
I made no such statement.
India (Statistics)
59.
asked the Secretary of State for War the establishment of the British battalion in India; and the average strength at the present date?
The present peace establishment of a British battalion in India is 28 officers and 863 other ranks, and the average strength of British battalions in India on 1st December last was 26 officers and 716 other ranks. The establishment is under review by the Indian Government.
Is it not a fact that this establishment has been greatly reduced lately?
I do not think that it has been reduced, but it probably will be.
60.
asked the Secretary of State for War the strength of the British Army in India on 1st December or nearest date; and the strength on the corresponding date in 1936?
The strength on 1st December last of British troops serving in India was 45,547 officers and men, and on the corresponding date in 1936, 58,611 officers and men. The latter figure was about 2,400 in excess of establishment.
Is it not a fact that the strength of the British Army in India is lower to-day than it has ever been for 100 years?
I am not quite sure that that is so, but my hon. and gallant Friend will recollect that I dealt with this subject in connection with my last Army Estimates, and that we are seeking at this date a redisposition of the British Forces in the Empire.
Is it not a fact that four battalions have been withdrawn from the establishment?
Yes, Sir, four battalions, and also one cavalry regiment.
Is it not a fact that the defence of India is primarily a naval and not a military question?
Barracks, Scotland
61.
asked the Secretary of State for War whether he can make a statement with regard to the rebuilding, renovating, or modernising, of military barracks in Scotland?
Yes, Sir. Work of this nature is now in progress on a programme to be completed by 1941 at an estimated cost of over £1,100,000. Among the major services are the provision of three new infantry depots, barracks for a field regiment, Royal Artillery, and a new military general hospital.
Is this work well in hand or is it merely approaching? Have they reached the tenders from contractors for this work?
Mr.
I think that most of this work is in hand I have given the hon. Gentleman the estimated date for completion.
Where are these three military barracks to be situated?
The barracks are to be situated at Helensburgh, Lanark and Perth.
Is there any truth in the statement that barracks are being removed from Dumbarton and re-erected at Arbroath?
I could not say without notice.
Cadet Force (Committee)
62.
asked the Secretary of State for War when the committee inquiring into the cadet force will be likely to report; and whether cadet forces, not drawn from schools, are now represented on that committee?
The committee cannot at present forecast when they will be able to report. Cadet forces are not directly represented on the committee, but the committee will hear evidence on behalf of both school and non-school cadets.
Drill
63.
asked the Secretary of State for War whether, in view of the time being wasted by Regulars, and Territorials especially, on teaching at least two different forms of drill, he will expedite the publication of one simple smart drill for all arms for all purposes so that the Army in general may have more time to train for other essential purposes?
A new field drill has been devised and is being taught. This is very easy to learn and takes up very little time. A ceremonial drill based on field drill is being developed. In the meantime, all units have been told to limit instruction in the present ceremonial drill to what is necessary for the performance of any parades or duties they may be called upon to perform.
Can the Secretary of State give an assurance to the House that fitting steps have been taken to put down the rebellion among the Under-Secretaries?
Works Defence Scheme
65.
asked the Secretary of State for War what progress has been made in his scheme of works defence; whether staffs have been allocated, and anti-aircraft guns provided for the defence of all works of major importance; and whether he can make a statement?
All firms who have agreed to raise their own units have been asked to inform the War Office when they are ready to receive their interim scale of equipment, and those who have done so have received it. The scheme does not comprise all firms of major importance, but is related to the general plan of defence. Commanders and training staff have been allocated.
Has the Secretary of State ever considered the fact that the use of guns against air attack on any given point necessitates the guns being several miles away from the point?
I think that this question refers to low-flying attack.
Pensions Acts (Amendment) Bill
45.
asked the Prime Minister whether he will give facilities for the passage into law of the Pensions Acts (Amendment) Bill?
I am afraid that I cannot give special facilities for the discussion of this Bill.
Is the Prime Minister aware that the overwhelming majority of the people are in favour of the increases in pensions contemplated in this Bill, and does he realise that the Government are flouting the principles of democracy in refusing to accede to this request?
No, Sir, I do not.
Will the Prime Minister keep in mind that many of these are people who in the near future will be asked to take part in national service?
Could not the time now available by the abandonment, under duress, of the Milk Bill be used for the purpose of discussing this Measure?
It is not a question of how to fill up time.
May I ask whether those who support this Bill have suggested what particular method could be used for finding the money?
Income Tax
46.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he is aware that assessments to Income Tax have recently been made by the inspector of taxes for the Regent district of London, since confirmed by the chief inspector at Somerset House, in respect of the disablement benefit paid from 1931 to the present time by a registered friendly society, the Dentists Provident Society, to its member, Mr. L. Forsyth, who was rendered totally incapable of following his occupation as the result of serious physical injuries sustained in an accident in 1931; whether such assessments have been made with his knowledge and authority; what were the grounds for taking this action; and whether the assessments in question are to be allowed to stand or to be withdrawn?
The right hon. Gentleman will appreciate that I am unable to discuss the taxation liability of an individual taxpayer. I understand, however, that the assessments to which the right hon. Gentleman refers, which were made in the ordinary course by the responsible body of Commissioners under the provisions of the Income Tax Acts, are under appeal.
I should not have put this question down had it not raised a point of principle, and is the right hon. Gentleman aware that I have been given to understand since I put the question down that in 1930, which was a year before this case, there was a similar case in which the view was taken that there should be no taxation in respect of such moneys?
I have said that this particular decision is not my decision at all, and also that it is a decision which is under appeal, and in that connection I dare say the earlier facts to which the right hon. Gentleman referred will be considered.
47.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether when he is framing the next Budget, he will bear in mind the desirability of removing the discouragement given to matrimony under existing Income Tax law?
My hon. Friend must not expect me to anticipate my Budget Statement.
Is it not a fact that a man and woman living separate lives receive a personal allowance of £135, or £270 in all, and that if they marry the allowance is reduced to £180, which is a loss of £90; and would it not be possible, without any loss to the revenue, to average this figure out at a personal allowance of about £105? Will the right hon. Gentleman bear that in mind when framing his Budget?
Perhaps my hon. Friend will bear in mind that there are other inducements to matrimony than that.
May I ask the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether the present system is not an inducement to living in sin?
Rearmament (Contracts, Canada)
49.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether, in the case of contracts placed in Canada for the supply of armaments, comparison has been made with the prices charged for similar articles manufactured in Great Britain; and whether there is any discrepancy between the two sets of prices?
In placing contracts in Canada, the Contracts Departments have made the fullest use of their experience on orders placed for similar stores in this country. The hon. Member will, however, appreciate that other considerations besides price enter into the question of purchase. There are generally differences of price between different sources of supply whether they are British or Canadian.
Does the same machinery for controlling or supervising prices exist in the case of Canadian contracts as in the case of similar contracts placed in this country?
It will partly depend, I imagine, upon whether the contract is one which involves work on a time and line basis, or whether it is one which has been negotiated at a specified figure; but I am quite satisfied that the Departments concerned have given their closest scrutiny to these matters, and I do not think there is any reason to believe that the figures will work out adversely.
Czechoslovakia (Loan)
50.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how much of the £100,000,000, which the Prime Minister stated on 3rd October the Government were prepared immediately to advance to the Czechoslovakian Government for their urgent needs, has been actually transferred; and, if some of this sum is still outstanding, will he make arrangements that it shall be utilised to help refugees who are without homes as a result of the transfer of territory to Germany?
I am informed that the whole of the £10,000,000 has been advanced.
Has the Chancellor of the Exchequer any information as to how the money has been disbursed in Czechoslovakia?
I dare say that the right hon. Gentleman knows that we have appointed a liaison officer to go out there, and that he is in the closest touch with what is going on. I have seen some reports from him, and I have also seen him, because he has been over here. As soon as we produce our Bill I shall be able to make a statement about the matter, because I have some information, but I cannot very well give it in answer to a question.
Will the right hon. Gentleman be prepared to lay a paper showing how the money has been spent in Czechoslovakia?
I should think that before the House is asked to pass the Bill it would certainly expect the information, and I am putting myself in a position to get that information.
Is it not a fact that for two months public money has been spent and no account has been rendered?
Will the right hon. Gentleman consider further financial assistance in the next half year going direct to the refugees, who are the main sufferers from the geographical rearrangement of their countries?
I think the hon. Baronet will appreciate the difficulties inherent in any scheme for direct assistance from the Government to the refugees.
Can the right hon. Gentleman say whether any of this money has in fact been used for the refugees?
indicated assent.
League Of Nations (Loans)
51.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer the amount of the outstanding European loans issued on the recommendation of the League of Nations or its financial experts; and the amount now in whole or partial default?
As the reply contains a number of figures, I will, with my hon. and gallant Friend's permission, circulate it in the OFFICIAL REPORT.
Following is the reply:
The following are the capital amounts of the various League Loans now outstanding:
Loans not in default: | £
|
Estonia | 1,300,000 |
Loans for which new arrangements have been made: | |
Danzig | 1,900,000 |
Hungary | 10,400,000 |
Loans for which temporary arrangements have been made: | |
Bulgaria | 8,300,000 |
Loans in partial default: | |
Greece | 18,900,000 |
Total | £40,800,000 |
For fuller details I would refer my hon. and gallant Friend to the Sixth Annual Report published by the League Loans Committee (London) in June last, and also to the statement in regard to the Bulgarian Loans which was published in the Press on 1st December.
Old Age Pensions
52.
asked the Financial Secretary to the Treasury whether he has formed an estimate of the amount of saving that would be involved to the Unemployment Assistance Board and the rates if old age pensions were to be increased to 15s. or £1 per week, respectively?
The existence of so many unknown factors makes it impossible to form a reliable estimate, but the saving would be very small in relation to the extra cost involved.
In view of the fact that these are the only pensioners who have to receive financial assistance in the form of pensions and not from the rates, would the right hon. Gentleman get some broad general estimate?
I am afraid that I could not do so, for the reasons I have stated.
Are not the finances of the Unemployment Assistance Board, in fact, derived from the rates?
Scotland
Parliamentary Discussion
66.
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland the number of Parliamentary days on which the discussion of Scottish Departmental business took place during 1937 and 1938, respectively?
In 1937, business solely concerning Scottish Departments was discussed in the House, or in Committee of the Whole House, on 18 days. Business for which English and Scottish Departments are jointly responsible was similarly discussed on 42 other days. The corresponding days for 1938 (to date) are 19 and 35 respectively. These figures do not include business which is of interest to Scotland but for which I am not Departmentally responsible.
Old Age Pensions
67.
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he is aware that, in the case of an old age pensioner admitted to hospital by a local authority, the old age pension cannot be claimed without consent by the local authority; that in certain cases persons are having their pension taken without the pensioner's consent; and whether he will take steps to have this ended?
Where an old age pensioner is admitted to hospital by a local authority, his pension cannot properly be drawn by the local authority without the pensioner's consent. If the hon. Member will send me particulars of any case in which it is alleged that a local authority has obtained payment of a pension without a pensioner's consent, I shall be glad to have inquiry made.
Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that there are cases in which old people who were in hospital because they were sick are now being certified as not being sick, while they are being maintained at the hospital; and will he have inquiries made, as this appears to be a form of sharp practice to overcome the regulations?
Perhaps the hon. Member will send me any particulars he has.
Does the right hon. Gentleman's reply apply to old age pensioners who may have someone left at home to look after them?
If the hon. Member will read my reply to-morrow, he will see how far I went.
Duke Street Prison, Glasgow
68.
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he is now in a position to state when Duke Street Prison, Glasgow, is going to be pulled down; and whether, in view of the fact that his Department have been pressed for the last seven years to remove this prison, and that his predecessor informed the House that the ground for a new prison was available but that building could not begin owing to the building trade being engaged on the Empire Exhibition, which has now finished, he will expedite the pulling down and rebuilding of this prison?
A site for a new prison was acquired in March, 1937, and the building of the new prison has been deferred since then, not because of the Empire Exhibition, but because of the pressure generally upon the building industry in Scotland, of the need for concentrating on the urgent problem of housing, and of the heavy building programme already in hand for the Prisons Department. After a careful review of the present and prospective demands upon the building industry, I have decided that the erection of the new prison must be postponed for at least another year, but provision is being made for the preparation of the detailed plans and specifications during that year.
Salmon Fishermen (Working Hours And Conditions)
70.
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he is aware that salmon fishermen in Scotland are compelled to work very long hours on weekdays and all day on Sundays if the weather is stormy, and the conditions under which they work, therefore, are worse than usual; and whether, in his forthcoming legislation, he will insert provisions limiting the hours of work of these fishermen, abolishing Sunday labour, securing their wages, and improving conditions by allowing them further opportunities of earning their livelihood?
The only condition of employment of salmon fishermen on which representations have been made to my Department in recent years is that relating to employment on Sunday on occasions when weather conditions prevent the removal of the leaders of nets on Saturday. Proposals to deal with this point were included in a private Member's Bill introduced last Session. The Government do not intend to introduce a Salmon Fisheries Bill this Session.
Farm Servants (Wages)
71.
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland the approximate total sum paid in wages to farm servants in Scotland in the years 1932–33, 1935–36, and 1937–38, respectively?
I regret that material is not available to give the information required by my hon. Friend.
Forth And Clyde Canal (Safety Measures)
73.
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what progress is being made to ensure greater safety for children at the Timber Basin, Forth and Clyde Canal, Glasgow?
I am informed that the Corporation of Glasgow have made further representations to the London Midland and Scottish Railway Company on this matter, and that arrangements have been made for representatives of the corporation and of the railway company to meet on Friday, the 23rd instant, to discuss the subject.
Lift Accident
The following question stood upon the Order Paper in the name of Mr. THORNE:
69. To ask the Secretary of State for Scotland if he can give any information in connection with a lift accident at a block of luxury flats in Paisley at which a boy was killed?
I am not pressing for an answer to this question, as I am under the impression that the accident occurred in London, and not in Paisley.
Sheep, Mutton And Lamb (Import Regulation)
(by Private Notice) asked the Minister of Agriculture whether he is now in a position to make any statement in regard to control of imports of mutton and lamb?
The Government have had under constant review during the current year the situation of the home sheep industry. A number of factors, other than the influence of imported supplies, have operated during 1938 to depress the prices realised for home-produced sheep and lambs; and a return to more normal conditions, including an improvement in the price of wool and of the by-products of the slaughter of sheep, would help to restore prices to more satisfactory levels. It is considered, however, that this recovery would be accelerated by a closer control of imported supplies. This would be in the interests of all suppliers, and would introduce a very desirable element of confidence into the sheep market. In view of the large proportion of the supplies which comes from Australia and New Zealand, approaches have been made to the Governments of those Dominions with a view to the adoption of further measures to regulate imports of mutton and lamb to the United Kingdom market as from the beginning of 1939. As the House is aware, imports of beef and veal are already dealt with by means of consultation between representatives of the countries mainly concerned, and I am very glad to be able to announce that, following this precedent, and after considering the replies from the two Dominions mainly affected, it has been decided to enlarge the functions of the Empire Beef Council so that it may in future also consider supplies of mutton and lamb to the United Kingdom market. While the council would consider the supply situation as a whole, the United Kingdom Government would reserve to itself responsibility in regard to the regulation of imports from foreign countries.
It is intended, in order to ensure that effect is given to the council's conclusions and to continue the regulation of imports from foreign countries, to issue an order at an early date under the Livestock Industry Act, 1937, by which all imports of live sheep, mutton and lamb into the United Kingdom will, in future, be subject to licence. The licensing system will be such as to ensure that imports within the quantities recommended from time to time by the council are freely admitted. Special provision will be made for imports for which shipping space has already been booked. The application of the proposed system to imports from Eire is under discussion with representatives of that country. No interference with the normal course of the trade is contemplated pending con- sideration by the council. It is intended that the order should come into operation on 15th January, 1939. Opportunity will be provided for the discussion of the order by both Houses of Parliament, in accordance with the terms of the Livestock Industry Act, shortly after the Christmas Recess.Do we understand, from the latter part of the right hon. Gentleman's reply, that, whatever recommendation the Beef Council may reach, in the last analysis this House will be the determining factor as regards regulation?
The Order will have to be approved by an affirmative Resolution of this House, and therefore in that sense this House has the last say on the matter.
Will a ceiling figure of quantity be imposed, as in the case of bacon?
Can the Minister say whether the large amount of stock now in store will be taken into account in fixing the early importations?
That will be a matter for the Council.
As the price of wool is a very important factor in the price of mutton and lamb, will the Beef Council, when there is a return to reasonable prices, take that fact into consideration?
Yes, Sir; as in the case of supplies of beef imported into this country, all the factors governing the market situation are considered by the Council from time to time as they arise.
Is a ceiling figure to be taken to guide the Council, or will they adjust the supplies to a price position?
The present practice is for the World Beef Conference to regulate supplies by quantity in accordance with their estimation of the power of the market to absorb them?
Do I understand that on this proposed council foreign countries also will be represented?
No, Sir, it is not at present the intention to include foreign countries, but His Majesty's Government do not consider such an arrangement to be ruled out as an eventual possibility.
Will my right hon. Friend consider including sheep within the ambit of the Livestock Industry Act?
That is a larger question altogether.
In working out his policy, has the right hon. Gentleman taken into consideration its effect on the export trade, or has this industry been isolated and considered apart from the general foreign trade policy?
No, Sir. All these considerations are taken into account, but it is not the view of the Government that a proper regulation of supplies to this market can be anything but beneficial.
I understand that the regulations come into effect on 15th January. The right hon. Gentleman says the House of Commons has the last word; but will not the House of Commons meet to discuss the matter after the regulations have come into effect, and will it not be much more difficult for the House of Commons to reject anything after it has been operated? Will the right hon. Gentleman not delay the coming into operation of the regulations, so as to avoid this difficulty?
The hon. Member is under a slight misapprehension as to the way in which this works. The Order will be in general terms, providing for further imports of sheep only on licence. The council will meet on 15th January to consider the making of regulations, and there will be ample time for the House of Commons to accept or reject the Order before it in fact becomes operative.
In fixing licences for sheep, will special attention be paid to the fact that large numbers of sheep from the high-lying parts of Scotland are put on to the market towards the end of August and during the month of September?
I have no doubt that all these matters will be given consideration.
Foreign Issues
(by Private Notice) asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he has any statement to make in connection with His Majesty's Government's policy on foreign lending?
Yes, Sir. The House will recollect that on 1st February, 1938, I stated that, in view of the condition of our exchanges at that time, greater latitude would, until further notice, be allowed in respect of certain applications to the Foreign Transactions Advisory Committee. In view of present circumstances, the Foreign Transactions Advisory Committee came to the conclusion, in which I concur, that an immediate restriction is now required of the greater latitude then announced, and I have reason to think that the need for such restriction is generally acknowledged. Accordingly, I take this opportunity of stating that the temporary relaxations made in February have been withdrawn.
Has the right hon. Gentleman come to this conclusion in view of the position of the currency of this country?
It is a conclusion that has been reached both by the Advisory Committee and by myself, after considering all the relevant factors. Currency, no doubt, was one, as is well known to the hon. Gentleman.
Was one of the purposes of the conclusion, of which the right hon. Gentleman has just informed the House, to strengthen the English sterling currency?
That is so.
The Cabinet
May I ask the Prime Minister whether his attention has been drawn to the Press reports concerning possible Cabinet changes, and whether he is in a position to make any statement before the Recess?
The hon. Member must not attach too much importance to rumours in the Press.
Fouling your own nest again.
Sittings Of The House
Resolved.
"That this House do meet on Thursday, at Eleven of the clock; that no Questions shall be taken after Twelve of the clock; and that at Five of the clock Mr. Speaker shall adjourn the House without Question put."—[The Prime Minister.]