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Oral Answers To Questions

Volume 373: debated on Thursday 24 July 1941

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National War Effort

Building Industry

1.

asked the Minister of Labour whether, in view of his appeals to the building trade on 16th June and 6th July, when making his announcement on nth June regarding building trades operatives, he has taken into account the normal channels through which building contractors usually obtain their materials; and to what extent his announcement covered this complementary side of the building trade?

The appeals to which my hon. Friend refers were addressed to the operatives in the building and civil engineering industries, and the Essential Work Order announced on nth June applies to those industries. It is obviously necessary that adequate supplies of materials should be maintained, and this aspect of the matter is not being overlooked by the Ministry of Works and Buildings and my Department.

Is my right hon. Friend aware that the distributors of building material have experienced great difficulty in getting the necessary labour, and can he give them some assurance that their needs will be met?

Why should labour and material be wasted on the statue in Trafalgar Square?

Production Advisory Committee

2.

asked the Minister of Labour whether it is intended to invite representatives of the Scientific Advisory Committee set up by the Government to serve upon his recently-appointed Production Advisory Committee?

Will my right hon. Friend bear in mind that one of the best methods of dealing with any shortage of labour and material is by the application of modern methods of production, and will he see that he gets experts who understand this appointed on his Committee?

Experts and scientific people are working on research in the Departments.

Are there any representatives of skilled technicians or managements upon that Committee?

This Committee is representative of the Federation of British Industries, the British Employers' Confederation and the Trades Union Congress.

Hours Of Work

5.

asked the Minister of Labour what steps are being taken in the munitions and building industries to reduce weekly hours of work to those, which experience shows, secure the optimum output; and whether uniformity of action is being secured for all Departments?

This is a matter which should be handled in detail by the production Departments through the managements of the firms concerned. It is impossible to get rigid uniformity, but steps have already been taken by the Ministry of Aircraft Production to reduce hours, and discussions are proceeding with the other production Departments.

Will my right hon. Friend answer the more specific part of the Question and say whether any Departments are not carrying out the recommendations that have been made?

In the case of the Ministry of Aircraft Production the matter has been disposed of, but in the case of the Ministry of Supply their production is so varied that you have to discuss industry by industry. There has been no refusal by any Department.

Raw Materials (Allocation)

7.

asked the Minister of Labour when the various schemes for the allocation of raw materials between the Supply, Service and Civil Departments were instituted; and what materials are covered by allocation?

All essential materials came under control immediately on the outbreak of war, and restrictions prohibiting non-essential uses were imposed wherever it appeared expedient to conserve supplies. The first allocation of raw material between the Supply, Service and Civil Departments took effect in October, 1939, and periodic allocations of other materials in sort supply have been made since that date as circumstances required. This system is applied to steel, including sub-allocations of particular kinds, timber (softwoods and hardwoods), cotton, flax, hemp, jute, paper, paper board, and leather. The allocations are made under the authority of the Production Executive. The actual work of allocation is done by an inter-departmental committee, over which my right hon. Friend the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of War Transport has presided continuously since the outbreak of war.

Coal Industry

Appeal Boards

3.

asked the Minister of Labour the names of the members of the appeal courts recently established in the mining industry?

I assume my hon. Friend has in mind appeals under the Essential Work (Coal Mining Industry) Order. No special courts have been established. Appeals are heard by the local appeal boards, approximately 300 in number, established under the Essential Work (General Provisions) Orders.

Unemployed Miners

4.

asked the Minister of Labour the number of miners unemployed in the county of Durham and also in Great Britain on the latest available date?

Is not that something strange, as we have had these figures hundreds of times? If we have had them before, why cannot we have them now?

I announced to the House some time ago that owing to the transfer of labour and the movements from one trade into another the publication of figures under separate trades would cease. Since that time I have not published them.

Are there not thousands of miners unemployed? If there are, why cannot they be found work in the pits?

There is no reason for any miner who is capable of working not being back at the pit. There are people in the mining areas who are signing on as unemployed miners, but many of them are past working. I have established a committee to investigate the matter to see whether there is anything that can be done.

Cost-Of-Living Index

6.

asked the Minister of Labour what are the chief items of expenditure taken into consideration in arriving at the estimated 30 per cent, increase in the cost-of-living figure; how many of such items, and to what approximate extent, are affected by rationing and shortage of supply by reason of war conditions; and whether allowance is made for this in arriving at the percentage increase referred to.

A list of the principal items of expenditure taken into account in compiling the Cost-of-Living Index is given each month in the "Ministry of Labour Gazette." The items so taken into account of which supplies to consumers are rationed include beef, mutton, bacon, butter, margarine, cheese, tea, sugar, clothing and clothing materials, and boots and shoes; the distribution of eggs is subject to control. I have no statistics showing how far the consumption of other articles is affected by shortage of supply. As is stated in the "Ministry of Labour Gazette," this Cost-of-Living Index is designed to measure the average percentage change in the retail prices for a fixed list of commodities and services and does not attempt to assess the effect of changes in expenditure due to alterations in the consumption of rationed or the substitution of unrationed articles.

Will my right hon. Friend consider whether it is not misleading to continue to estimate increases in the cost of living by increases in the cost of things no longer obtainable or only obtainable in lesser quantities by reason of rationing?

That question does not complete the whole story. While it is true that certain articles are in short supply and are rationed, it must be borne in mind that the cost to the people has increased. A woman cannot use her ingenuity in buying when things are rationed. Therefore, I prefer to leave the index figure as a guide, as it always has been.

Why do the Government continue to use an index based on the 1914 figure in view of the fact that an exhaustive inquiry has since brought the figures comparatively up to date? Why do they not bring in a new index figure based on that more recent inquiry?

I do not think that affects the issue. There is a confusion between cost of living and standards of living. A new index might bring out, or it might not, that the standard of living has changed, but the relative change in cost will remain the same, so that this guide is as good as any other.

Armed Forces (Recruits, Radiological Examination)

8

asked the Minister of Labour, whether there are any facilities for the radiological examination of recruits for His Majesty's Forces in cases where it may appear necessary; and whether in view of experience following the last war, he will consider making such examinations general?

In any case in which they consider it desirable, the medical boards which examine recruits for His Majesty's Forces arrange for radiological examination before determining the man's grading. A suggestion that all recruits should have a radiological examination was fully considered last year by the Medical Advisory Committee under the chairmanship of Lord Holder, and the Committee decided that its adoption was impracticable.

Is it not a question of calling up those who have served in this work, which makes it impossible to carry out the scheme?

Is not the question of personnel to interpret the results still more important?

Education

Air Raid Warnings, Schools

9.

asked the President of the Board of Education whether he will authorise education authorities to instal in their schools the Ripplay Control Signalling System of air-raid warnings, seeing that the Minister of Health has approved the adoption by local authorities of this system for business and other premises; and will his department meet the cost of this installation?

After examining the hon. Member's proposal, I have come to the conclusion that, unless circumstances are very exceptional, schools are already adequately served by the public air-raid warning system.

Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that in many of the schools, particularly in the outlying districts, it is impossible to hear the warning on account of atmospheric conditions or the wind being in the wrong direction; that in many cases attempts have been made to meet the difficulty, and that this is the only adequate system; that it has been approved by the Regional Commissioners and could be installed at the cost of a few pounds; and that while much money has been spent upon air-raid shelters, they will be useless if the children do not hear the siren? Will the right hon. Gentleman give this matter sympathetic consideration?

The hon. Member will realise that I have had very little time since taking up my duties to look into this matter, but my preliminary examination led me to the conclusion of which I have informed the House. I will undertake to make a further inquiry into what the hon. Member has said, but the system is rather expensive and uses rather important equipment.

It costs only a few pounds per school and could be installed by using the present electric cables.

Will the right hon. Gentleman consider the position of schools in rural areas where there are no sirens?

Mothercraft Teaching (Schoolgirls)

10.

asked the President of the Board of Education whether he is aware that teachers, probation officers, doctors and social workers are generally anxious for the teaching of mothercraft to be given to schoolgirls as the best means of attacking juvenile delinquency; and whether he will arrange for such teaching to be given throughout the country?

A chapter of the Board's Handbook of Suggestions for Teachers on Health Education is devoted to mothercraft, and I shall continue to foster such instruction as is practicable for school children.

Does the right hon. Gentleman realise the national importance of this, in view of the fact that girls are being turned forth into the world at the age of 16 and have not a great deal of knowledge of what they have to face?

21.

asked the Minister of Health whether he has considered the report from the National Association of Maternity and Child Welfare Centres, urging the immediate need of the teaching of mothercraft to schoolgirls; and whether he will consult with the President of the Board of Education with a view to putting this recommendation into operation?

I have noted the report with much interest. Its recommendations fall mainly within the province of the Board of Education, but I shall be glad to consult with the President of the Board on the steps that it may be possible to take towards carrying them out.

Does the Minister recognise that this is a matter of national importance and not merely a question of health?

Now that the right hon. Gentleman has got infants' and children's welfare under his Department and it is taken out of the hands of the Board of Education, will he see that more attention is paid to it?

The Noble Lady is not correct. It has not been taken out of their hands. What has happened is that we are making a great co-operative effort in this matter, and I have the advantage of knowing at the Ministry of Health that those who are responsible to the Board of Education are working with me energetically on this most important matter.

Is it not true that those are gentlemen who have never seen a nursery school or anything connected with it?

Civil Defence

Bombed Houses (Repair)

11.

asked the Minister of Health what progress has been made since 1st April with the clearing up, repair and reconstruction of bombed houses and business premises in the London area and provincial towns?

I assume that my hon. Friend is referring to the repair of war damage by local authorities. At 1st April all but about 12 per cent, of the repairable houses had received first aid repair in London and the principal provincial towns which had suffered heavy damage. At 17th July, the latest date for which figures are available, there remained about 6 per cent. awaiting repairs. Considerable damage occurred between these dates, and the figures show not only that the arrears had been overtaken but that progress had been made with the repair of the damage occurring during the period. Local authorities are not responsible for the repair of business premises, and I am not aware of any statistics available as to the repair of this class of property by the owners.

While thanking my right hon. Friend for his answer, may I ask whether he can assure the House that everything is being done during the quiet spell and the fine weather to make the greatest number of houses habitable during the coming winter, both in London and in the provinces?

Billeting (War Workers)

22.

asked the Minister of Health whether he will arrange for evacuees to be moved from billets when room is required to enable workers engaged in work of national importance to live in the neighbourhood?

Difficulties arising in the provision of accommodation for war workers are considered by an interdepartmental committee. This committee submits recommendations as to the action to be taken which may include the removal of evacuated persons billeted in the area.

Personnel (Delegates To United States)

26.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how the selection was made of a lady to go to the United States of America to represent the London Auxiliary Ambulance Service; with what object and for what duration the appointment is intended; whether it is at the public expense, if so, on what Vote; and whether the selection was made with the knowledge of the acting officer in charge of the London Ambulance Service?

The suggestion that a delegation of Civil Defence workers should be sent to America is still under consideration, and no final decision has been reached.

Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that this appointment was published in all the newspapers and has caused a great deal of concern among those who were not consulted, but should have been consulted, in the selection of the person to go?

I saw those Press notices. I think they are the result of a misunderstanding, because the matter has not reached the stage of decision.

Will the right hon. Gentleman assure us that no appointment is made without consultation with the appropriate authorities?

In any case I will take care of that, as I shall have to be consulted myself.

Will the right hon. Gentleman see that the person sent really represents this service?

Yes, I will certainly keep that point in mind, but no final decision has yet been reached.

Sydmouth Douglas Social Credit Association

27.

asked the Home Secretary whether his attention has been drawn to the activities of the Sydmouth Douglas Social Credit Association, as these are calculated to impair the war effort; and what steps he is taking to deal with this association?

My attention has been drawn to an anti-Semitic circular recently issued by the association referred to. It would, I think, on my present information, be exaggerating the influence of this obscure body to suggest that its activities could have any effect on the war effort, but I shall keep it under observation.

Are not the documents which I sent to the right hon. Gentleman anti-Government and pro-Hitler?

It is not necessarily an offence for a document to be anti-Government. Otherwise, from time to time we should be in trouble with parts of the House of Commons. On the last point, I am not satisfied that it is necessarily so, but I will keep it under observation.

Does not this involve a great waste of paper at a time of paper shortage?

Messenger Service

28.

asked the Home Secretary whether he has any statement to make on Civil Defence despatch riders?

I issued a circular at the end of June authorising the setting up of an outdoor Civil Defence messenger service in place of the less formal system which has hitherto prevailed, and the provision of uniform and equipment in appropriate quantities, materially in excess of those hitherto authorised. Regional Commissioners are at present in consultation with the various authorities in their regions with a view to settling appropriate establishments for the service. In the main, the service will, it is hoped, be recruited on a part-time basis from the younger members of the population, for whom the nature of the work has a special attraction.

Can the Minister give any idea of the number of people who are involved in this matter?

Deputy Regional Commissioners

29.

asked the Home Secretary whether he can give the number and names of the new Deputy Regional Commissioners who have recently been appointed?

38.

asked the Home Secretary how many additional Deputy Commissioners have been, appointed since nth June; and whether each region now has such a person responsible for all fire prevention and fire-fighting arrangements?

As the answer involves a number of names, I will, with permission, circulate in the OFFICIAL REPORT the information asked for by my hon. Friends.

Can my right hon. Friend say whether he has included the names of any women in the list?

I have kept that point steadily in mind, but the list is not yet complete. I still should like to do so, but it is a question of finding suitable persons to do particular jobs, and the solution does not always work out that way. It has not happened yet, but I still go on hoping.

Would the right hon. Gentleman be good enough to answer the second part of my Question, whether each region now has a person responsible for all fire prevention and fire-fighting arrangements?

Yes, Sir, that is being taken care of. One of the Regional Commissioners will probably take care of the matter, because they have officers suitable for the purpose.

If the right hon. Gentleman cannot find women who are suitable, will he not let some of us find them for him? Is it not true that unless women had protested against our not having a national fire service, we should not have it to-day? Cannot the right hon. Gentleman consider the women?

I have already informed the House how the matter stands. Any suggestion the Noble Lady would care to make I would gladly consider.

Is not the right hon. Gentleman proud to have a national fire service?

Does the right hon. Gentleman consider that one regional commissioner is sufficient for the counties of Kent, Surrey and Sussex?

Following is the answer:

In view of the increased work falling on Regional Commissioners in respect of fire service, fire prevention measures and co-ordination of the work preparatory to and following upon heavy air attack, additional Deputy Regional Commissioners have been appointed as follow:

  • 1. General Sir John Brind, K.C.B., K.B.E., C.M.G., D.S.O., North Eastern Region.
  • 2.Mr. G. Dennison, Midland Region.
  • 3.Mr. F. Hindle, North Western Region.
  • 4. Mr. C. R. Keene, North Midland Region.
  • 5. Mr. H. M. Medland, South Western Region.
  • 6. Colonel C. J. Pickering, C.M.G., D.S.O., Northern Region.
  • 7. Mr. H. W. Shawcross, K.C., South Eastern Region.
  • Lord Monsell was appointed a Deputy Commissioner for the Southern Region but is now acting as Regional Commissioner for the South Eastern Region during the absence through ill-health of Sir Auckland Geddes. Steps are being taken to make appointments for the Eastern Region, Southern Region and Welsh Region. The appointment of a Deputy Regional Commissioner in London is under consideration. In Scotland owing to the existence of a District organisation, no additional appointment is necessary. The division of work between the Deputy Commissioners will be within the discretion of the Regional Commissioner.

    Internees

    31.

    asked the Home Secretary how many letters he has received from persons interned in the Isle of Man, under Regulation 18b, whose detention has recently been cancelled, requesting that their internment in that island should not be terminated during the summer, and expressing appreciation of the conditions and of the kindly treatment they had received?

    I have seen one such letter, and I am sure that the conditions of treatment in the Isle of Man camps are appreciated by many of them who are detained there.

    Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that some hon. Members have received letters from foreigners interned in the Isle of Man asking that the British Government should be thanked for the wonderful free holiday they have been given?

    I gather that one or two such communications have been received, but there are others of an opposite character.

    While the internees fully appreciate the admirable conditions under which they are living, is it not the case that they would rather be out of internment, meeting the dangers which face the country, than be interned under the very best conditions?

    42.

    asked the Home Secretary what is the total number of internees deported from Great Britain to Australia; how many of these were boys and youths between 16 and 19 years of age; how many have since been recommended for release; and how many of these have, in fact, been released from internment?

    The number sent to Australia was 2,542. As no statistics dividing these people into age groups are available, I regret I cannot give the particulars asked for in the second part of the Question. The policy is to bring back to this country both those whose prospective release can be definitely authorised on the information already available, and others who appear likely to qualify for release subject to further examination after their arrival here. There is also a number of persons whose prospective release has been authorised with a view to their emigration to other countries. The total number whose future release has been definitely authorised is 480 of whom over 300 are prospective emigrants to other countries. There are on their way back to this country about 200 persons of whom 66 have been definitely promised release, and the remainder are returning with a view to consideration of their release.

    Will my right hon. Friend give special consideration to the schoolboys and young fellows under 19 years of age, and particularly to those who are still at school?

    They must, of course, be considered in relation to security, and obviously from that point of view they would probably stand a better chance. I will keep the point in mind.

    43.

    asked the Home Secretary whether he has been in communication with His Majesty's Government in Australia with a view to obtaining their consent to the release in Australia of those internees who have been deported to Australia from Great Britain and since recommended as suitable for release from internment, but for whose return to this country no shipping facilities are available?

    No, Sir. These internees were accepted by the Australian Government on the specific understanding that those whose release might be authorised would be removed from Australia. Any exception to this principle is a matter entirely within the discretion of the Australian Government.

    Whole-Time Wardens

    36.

    asked the Home Secretary whether he is now in a position to state the number of paid wardens between the ages of 30 and 41; and whether they are to be exempt from military service, or are to be called up in September?

    There are approximately 5,600 whole-time wardens whose obligations for military service are deferred for varying periods ended 30th September. It is not proposed that there should be any further general deferment of wardens. Individual cases of key wardens will still be considered on their merits.

    Fire Service

    37.

    asked the Home Secretary whether he is now in a position to make a statement on fire-watching relating to business premises, unoccupied houses and the organisation of fire-watching parties?

    The first of these Questions is at present under discussion with representatives of the employers and the Trades Union Congress; the second is being dealt with by an Order which will shortly be issued under an Amendment to the Defence Regulations recently approved; as regards the third, further directions are being issued in the light of the experience which has been gained.

    In view of the fact that nothing appears to have happened in this matter since December, could not the right hon. Gentleman speed up the three very important parts of this Service?

    The hon. Gentleman has no right to say that nothing has happened since December. It is a misrepresentation and is not fair.

    Air Raids (Welfare Arrangements, Co-Ordination)

    39.

    asked the Home Secretary what arrangements are made to coordinate the work of Government Departments, local authorities and other agencies concerned with the welfare of the civil population during and after air raids?

    As the answer is rather long, I will, with Mr. Speaker's permission, make a statement at the end of Questions.

    Later—

    I must first point out that the welfare of the civil population during and after an air raid is bound up with the restoration of the life of the community and depends upon a large number of services, extending far beyond the Civil Defence organisation as originally conceived. To give a few examples, let me mention evacuation and rest centres; emergency feeding; relief of distress; first-aid repairs to houses; road and rail transport; restoration of shopping facilities; salvage of furniture; restoration of gas, water and electricity supplies; clearance of sites which are a danger to public safety or public health. All these, and various other activities, directly or indirectly affect the personal welfare of the population. Many Departments are involved, but the examples I have mentioned are particular aspects of the work of five or six Departments, and they could not be dealt with in isolation from the work now carried out by those Departments under normal conditions.

    As Home Secretary and Minister of Home Security, I have a general responsibility for seeing that the plans of the various Departments are properly coordinated, and that adjustments are promptly made in the light of experience. At the centre, co-ordination is achieved through the Civil Defence Committee of the War Cabinet and its Executive Sub-Committee, over both of which I preside. Under present conditions, the committee meets weekly and the Executive Sub-Committee meets at least twice a week; meetings are held daily if necessary. The Ministers immediately concerned meet under my chairmanship with their senior officers and advisers. Other Ministers including Ministers of the Service Departments, attend when matters arise affecting the work of their Departments. Oral reports are made by each Department represented, and immediate decisions are given where necessary. The Executive Sub-Committee is also a planning body and calls for reports upon particular problems which need detailed examination. I need hardly say that I meet the Regional Commissioners individually and collectively at frequent intervals for discussion of a wide variety of problems.

    So much for planning and the settlement of policy. Then there is action to give effect to the policy in the regions and localities. This is done through regional representatives of Government Departments and local authorities, subject to co-ordination by the Regional Commissioners, who are charged with the responsibility of ensuring that all the interests concerned, including regional representatives of Government Departments and local authroities, make plans in advance and act quickly and effectively when the emergency arises. They also maintain close contact with industrial organisations and voluntary bodies. Thus the Regional Commissioner is the point at which all plans for dealing with the consequences of enemy attack are focussed. Power; on specific matters have already been delegated to them, and there will be no hesitation in extending such delegation as the need arises.

    Experience has shown that after a heavy raid rapid and effective progress can best be made if the Regional Commissioner initiates arrangements for a conference at an early hour, at which the various agencies at work are repre- sented, including, if necessary, the military authorities. These conferences are called to enable the position to be appreciated in perspective and to initiate and co-ordinate remedial action, the general lines of which have been planned in advance. Every Department and agency places its services unreservedly at the disposal of the Regional Commissioner, and the regional representatives work as a team under the leadership of the Regional Commissioner. By the methods I have outlined, policy is quickly settled and plans are co-ordinated nationally, and in the regions lines of action are determined and preparations made in advance under the direction of the Regional Commissioner.

    Will my right hon. Friend enlarge that very interesting statement in one respect? Exactly what is the Regional Commissioner expected by him to do if a local authority is not reaching the standard of efficiency in some respect which he expects of it, or if he is not receiving the co-operation which, in his view, he requires from the officers of some other Department, not the Ministry of Home Security?

    In the case of the local authorities, the Regional Commissioners, subject to Ministerial authority, have powers of direction, if necessary, but, as the House will agree, it is far better to do these things by discussion and through good will, and very little difficulty is in fact experienced. With regard to other State Departments, if the Regional Commissioner finds he has difficulty with the regional representatives of another Ministry he can make representations to that Ministry through the Minister of Home Security.

    Is my right hon. Friend aware that there is conflict sometimes between the Regional Commissioner and the Controller, and if there is a conflict between these two gentlemen who is the final arbiter?

    Finally it would be myself. If I came to the conclusion that the fault was with the Regional Commissioner, I would have to deal with him. If I came to the conclusion that the Controller was hopeless, I would have the power to remove him.

    Is there any co-operation with, or assistance from, Members of Parliament in the areas, or are they completely ignored?

    As my hon. Friend knows, the Regional Commissioners meet Members of Parliament from time to time.

    I can only say that I think the whole of the Regional Commissioners have invited Members of Parliament—[HON. MEMBERS: "No!"]—and in a number of cases there have been several meetings. If any hon. Members have any feeling about that point in a particular region, I will certainly take it up.

    In view of the unsatisfactory nature of the Reply, I beg to give notice that I shall raise this matter on the Adjournment.

    Do I understand that this policy has always been the policy that has been carried out from the beginning, or is it something new?

    In principle, in many respects, it is from the beginning, but, as the noble Lady knows, it is very desirable.

    Supposing a Regional Commissioner finds that local authorities are really not up to scratch, is it the duty of the Regional Commissioner to deal with them drastically?

    Notice has already been given that this matter is to be raised in a discussion on the Adjournment.

    "Daily Worker"

    40.

    asked the Home Secretary whether, in view of recent declarations made by the Communist party in support of the war effort, he is prepared to revoke his Order under the Defence Regulations prohibiting the publication of the "Daily Worker "?

    No, Sir. At this critical period of the war, when extra effort is called for from all of us so that everything possible may be done to assist our Russian ally, the Government would not feel justified in relaxing a safeguard against a newspaper which systematically fomented opposition to the war effort. If the British Communist party are now. prepared to aid our Russian ally by giving to the war effort assistance which they previously were not willing to give to their own country, I welcome this change so far as it goes, and I hope it may lead to their accepting the principle that the aims of every party or faction ought to be subordinated to the common purpose of Britain and her Allies to defeat the Hitler regime. In view, however, of the changes in the professions of the leaders of the party, It would be premature and rash to treat the latest of these sudden conversions as proof of a lasting change of heart.

    Arising out of that reply, as the paper was suppressed because the right hon. Gentleman held the view that it was damaging the war effort, and in view of the changed conditions and the declared policy of the leaders of the party that they are now anxious to support the war effort and to increase production as much as possible, is it not illogical in such circumstances to continue the ban?

    One of the reasons for the suppression of the newspaper was that I came to the conclusion that the party and the newspaper had no fundamental loyalty to the British war effort. I am not yet satisfied that they have such loyalty, and until I am so satisfied, I do not propose to alter this decision.

    Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that in spite of the objections he has expressed to a Member on the Front Bench regarding misrepresentation, he has himself made a mass of misrepresentations of the Communist party and of the "Daily Worker," and is it not the case that he could not cite one issue on which the "Daily Worker" ever gave him cause for serious action? In view of the fact that the "Daily Worker" has always had the greatest influence on the best type of worker in the factories, is it not desirable that the "Daily Worker" should be allowed re-publication?

    I am very sorry, but as I disagree with almost every statement of fact that my hon. Friend has made, I am afraid it would be impossible in the short time at my disposal adequately to cover the ground in answer to that question.

    When my right hon. Friend speaks about desiring satisfaction in regard to the loyalty to the war effort of the people concerned, what does he mean—how does he desire them to express their loyalty? Does he want any precise declaration, does he want them to go through a period of probation, or what is in his mind?

    What is in my mind is what I have said, and if my hon. Friend is trying to lead me to open up negotiations with the Communist party as to their terms of peace with the British Government, I do not propose to open any such negotiations.

    Bombed Sues (Clearance)

    44.

    asked the Home Secretary whether the sites of bombed properties are cleared of buildings and debris at the public expense, or whether the ground landlords contribute towards the cost of this demolition and clearance?

    Reasonable expenditure; incurred by local authorities in the clearance of sites is reimbursed by the Exchequer. It is no part of the responsibility of local authorities to clear any site merely in the interests of the owner, but sites may have to be cleared in the interests of public safety, public health or salvage of goods or on the general ground of public interest. The question of subsequent financial adjustment with the owner or other interests concerned is a matter for the War Damage Commission.

    Is it not a fact that ground landlords are not paying any contribution towards this expenditure, and is it reasonable and just that this generally prosperous section of the community should be permitted to escape such charges, particularly as they do not bear a proper proportion of taxation?

    Any question of financial adjustment is a matter for the War Damage Commission, and not for me.

    Evacuated Children

    14.

    asked the Minister of Health the nature of the arrangement whereby the proprietors of Dartington Hall, Devon, receive or have received a monetary grant out of public funds in respect of attention given to evacuated children; and whether the parents of the children, the Home Office, the Devon constabulary, the Board of Education or the local education authority were consulted before any such arrangement was concluded?

    The position is that part of the premises at Dartington Hall have been placed by the trustees at the disposal of the local authority for evacuation purposes. These premises are at present being run as a hostel for evacuated children by local voluntary workers and staff seconded by the L.C.C. The proprietors of Dartington Hall are not in any way concerned in the management of the hostel and no grant is payable to them in respect of attention to the children. The second part of the Question does not therefore arise.

    20.

    asked the Minister of Health whether, in view of the rise in the cost of living, he will reconsider the existing income limits which govern the contributions to be made by parents for the maintenance of their evacuated children, since the present scale is causing considerable hardship in certain cases?

    I am not satisfied on the information before me that a reconsideration of the present scale of assessment is called for. Perhaps my hon. and gallant Friend would send me or the Secretary of State for Scotland particulars of the cases to which he refers.

    Old Age Pensions

    12.

    asked the Minister of Health what steps are being taken to place those in receipt of old age pensions on a basis to meet the continued rise in the cost of living, as the present value of 10s. is several shillings below what it was when the war started?

    I would refer my hon. Friend to the reply given to a Question on this subject asked by my hon. Friend the Member for West Leyton (Mr. Sorensen) on 17th July.

    I have seen that reply. What I was asking the Minister was whether he can see his way to do something for these people in view of the cost of living?

    I cannot add anything to the answer which has been already given on the subject.

    Local Authorities' Services

    15.

    asked the Minister of Health whether he will issue a report on the work of local authorities, large and small, in relation to evacuation, health and ancillary services during the past two years, in order to show its wide range and the results of applying local initiative and experience to meet differing local conditions?

    I am in entire agreement with my hon. Friend's view that the work accomplished by the local authorities in the last two years deserves to be better known. I hope to publish a summarised report of the work with which the Ministry of Health is concerned for the two years ended 31st March last, which will indicate briefly their wide range of activities.

    Can the right hon. Gentleman say when it is proposed to issue that report?

    Ports (Accommodation For Visitors)

    19.

    asked the Minister of Health whether he is aware of the prevailing shortage of accommodation for visiting members of the armed forces and for Merchant Navy personnel in ports of the United Kingdom; and what steps are being taken to relieve the same?

    No, Sir, but I will gladly look into any specific cases which my hon. Friend may care to bring to my notice.

    May I indicate the case of Newcastle-upon-Tyne and ask whether the obligation is upon the local authority or the Government?

    Perhaps my hon. Friend will discuss the matter with me if he has any particular information, and if he would like me to make inquiries, I will gladly do so.

    Armed Forces And Civilians (Pensions And Grants)

    24.

    asked the Minister of Pensions whether he will consider an alteration in the terms of the Royal Warrant of September, 1939, so that pensions may be paid to parents of soldiers deceased in consequence of the present war without an inquiry into their means?

    I have nothing to add to the answer I gave to a similar Question put by the hon. and gallant Member on 26th June.

    25.

    asked the Minister of Pensions whether the dependants of an ambulance driver, killed by enemy action during sick leave, is entitled to pension as would be the case of a member of the recognised military defence forces?

    If the ambulance driver were a gainfully occupied person, death by enemy action during sick leave would entitle his dependants to the benefits of the Personal Injuries (Civilians) Scheme. If the hon. Member has a particular case in mind, I shall be happy to look into it.

    If he is gainfully employed and he is injured by enemy action, he comes under the scheme.

    Workmen's Compensation

    32.

    asked the Home Secretary whether he is aware that increases in the cost of living reduce the amounts paid in partial compensation cases; and whether he will take legislative action to remedy this state of affairs?

    I presume that my hon. Friend is referring to the reduction in the weekly payments of compensation which may take place in cases where the earnings of a partially disabled workman have been increased by a cost of living bonus. The question of excluding such increases from the calculation of the weekly payment was raised and carefully examined at the time the Workmen's Compensation (Supplementary Allowances) Act of last year was being drafted, but it would have involved a wide departure from the principles of the Act for assessment of the compensation in such cases and given rise to serious practical difficulties. I regret therefore that I cannot promise any legislative action at present.

    We will keep the matter under consideration, but it should be borne in mind that the Minister without Portfolio is causing to be made a survey of the social services, including workmen's compensation. This survey may result in alteration of the scales of workmen's compensation benefit.

    Is the Minister aware that reductions of compensation are causing a great deal of dissatisfaction among men who have gone back to the pits?

    New Police Stations, Torquay And Totnes

    33.

    asked the Home Secretary when the contract for building a new police station at Torquay was signed; what was the approximate date of completion; what is the present position of material and labour supply on the site; and whether he will arrange to omit the provision of a billiards room from the proposed structure during the present crisis?

    I am informed that the contract was signed in April of this year, and the approximate date of completion is 26th April, 1942. The necessary material is available; as regards labour, the work is at present confined to the foundations, and there are 10 or 11 labourers working. It would be impossible to omit the room designated as a billiard room, which it is intended during the war shall be used as a dormitory.

    In view of the scarcity of labour, will the right hon. Gentleman keep this matter under review?

    34.

    asked the Home Secretary what progress has been made with the new police station at Totnes that he ordered the Standing Joint Committee of Devon to build on 21st December last; what labour and material are available; and when the structure is likely to be completed?

    Arrangements are being made for work on the new building which I have sanctioned to be commenced as soon as possible. As previously explained in the plans for the allocation of labour and material, provision has been made for essential police buildings.

    Demolished Houses (Firewood)

    35.

    asked the Home Secretary whether he will issue instructions to local authorities not to make bonfires of wood from demolished houses, but to make such wood available as fuel to local residents?

    Instructions were issued to local authorities in December last, and again in March of this year, to make arrangements for the local distribution of valueless timber as firewood, and to make public announcement of such arrangements. As a general rule, only verminous timber should be burned on the site. In some are as householders have been slow to avail themselves of the facilities afforded, particularly during the summer months. Accordingly, I am considering what further arrangements can be made for the collection and disposal of valueless timber for use as fuel.

    If the Minister will travel up and down the urban areas, he will see nearly every day large bonfires of quite useful fuel being burned. In view of the fuel shortage, will the right hon. Gentleman take immediate and drastic steps to make such fuel available to poor people?

    I have done so, and many poor people are using it, particularly during the summer months. Many of the bonfires are probably made with verminous and worthless timber which it is desirable to destroy.

    I am in communication with the Mines Department on the matter, with a view to storing the wood as a supplementary source of fuel during the winter.

    Is the Minister aware that in Germany wood is being used for the manufacture of food and that this wood ought not to be burned?

    Army Act (Offences, Charge)

    41.

    asked the Home Secretary whether he can give any information in connection with a War Office clerk and two other men, charged at Mount Street, London, with stealing 570 blankets and 200 sheets issued for the use of the military?

    I have made inquiry and find that three men, one of whom was, I understand, formerly in the employment of the War Office, were charged on 30th June with offences under the Army Act in relation to the property mentioned, and are to appear again at Bow Street Police Court on 6th August. My hon. Friend will appreciate that it is not possible for any further statement to be made until the cases have been disposed of by the Court.

    Bombing Of Civilians

    45.

    asked the Prime Minister whether he will consider making a convention with the German Government for the cessation of night-bombing and the bombing of cities; and whether he will take steps to ascertain the opinion of the people of this country on this proposal?

    May I ask the right hon. Gentleman whether he has observed that the policy now being followed has been described by a competent military critic as "contagious lunacy," and will he ask his right hon. Friend on what grounds he makes the statement that if such a convention were offered, it would not be acceptable to the people of this country?

    I am not aware of that statement, and I should have thought that everybody realised that no convention made with the present rulers of Germany would be acceptable.

    That is not the point of my Question. [Interruption.] On a point of Order. In view of the unsatisfactory nature of the reply, I beg to give notice that I intend to raise the matter on the Adjournment.

    Chancellor Of The Duchy Of Lancaster

    46.

    asked the Prime Minister what Minister, in the absence of the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster overseas, will perform the statutory duties of that office?

    In the absence of the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster overseas, Lord Hankey, who is to retain Ministerial rank as Paymaster-General, has been appointed deputy and will, with the approval of His Majesty the King, continue to perform the statutory duties of his previous office.

    May I ask who will answer Questions in this House addressed to the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster, either in relation to his normal duties or his special duties oversea?

    Do I understand, then, that this appointment has been made without contemplating such points?

    Is it not ridiculous to appoint somebody as Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster and then send him overseas?

    Agriculture

    Requisitioned Land (Compensation)

    47.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture whether, in the event of Government acquisition of agricultural land under crops for the purpose of erecting buildings, or constructing aerodromes, farmers receive compensation for the loss to their general farm economy?

    The basis of compensation in respect of the acquisition of land for defence purposes is contained in the Defence Acts, and compensation is assessable in accordance with the provisions of the Acquisition of Land (Assessment of Compensation) Act, 1919. If, however, the land is requisitioned under Defence Regulations the compensation is determined in accordance with Section 2 of the Compensation (Defence) Act, 1939.

    Who is responsible for making a valuation, and how long is the farmer kept waiting before he is given compensation for crops on land requisitioned?

    Does the right hon. Gentleman recall a case in Worcestershire which I put to him early this month, and has any action been taken?

    Will the right hon. Gentleman say, as Minister of Agriculture, that farmers are not kept waiting? Owing to the fact that I could not hear the right hon. Gentleman's answer, and owing to the unsatisfactory supplementary answer, I beg to give notice that I intend to raise this matter on the Adjournment.

    Allotments

    48.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture the increased number of Allotments that have been applied for and granted since the outbreak of hostilities?

    I am not in possession of detailed figures for the whole country, but on the basis of returns received from local allotment authorities it is estimated that the total number of war-time allotments provided in England and Wales from the outbreak of war up to 15th April last is 541,000. At the present time the total number of allotments in England and Wales, excluding railway allotments, is estimated at approximately 1,500,000.

    Is it not true that the right hon. Gentleman is really making some progress now in this matter?

    National Finance

    Treasury Deposit Receipts

    49 and 50.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer (1) the total amount of Treasury deposit receipts outstanding at 30th June, 1941; the amount that have been converted into long-term investments by the banks and the securities into which they have been converted and the interest paid thereon;

    (2) whether, in view of the many hundreds of millions of Treasury deposit receipts that have been converted by the banks into long-term securities carrying interest at 2½ or 3 per cent., he will confer with the banking interests concerned with a view to a reduction in interest being made in this connection; and whether he has estimated the amount by which Income Tax could be reduced if the interest which was permitted was not to exceed 1 per cent?

    The amount of Treasury deposit receipts outstanding on 30th June, 1941, was £519,000,000. The amount converted was £142,000,000, and the securities into which they were converted were National War Bonds carrying 2½ per cent. interest and Savings Bonds carrying 3 per cent. As stated in the reply given to my hon. Friend on 7th May, my right hon. Friend sees no reason to make any change in the existing arrangements. With reference to the last part of Question No. 50, no precise estimate can be given.

    Is my right hon. Friend aware that the result of this conversion is to put a burden on the tax-payers-in-perpetuity? Why is it that they have to bear this burden if it is a part of interest in the banks which is really cost less credit and is not subscribed for by the banks?

    War Damage (Contribution Basis)

    51.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he realises the discontent caused by inequalities in the assessments for war damage, namely, a bungalow in Bilston cost £350, rate £9, Schedule A £18, is asked to pay £1 16s.; another in Wednesbury cost £625, rate £14, Schedule A £21, with allowance of £5 5s. for repairs, is assessed at £1 11s. 6d.; and will he consider a more equitable arrangement?

    I would remind my hon. Friend that, although it was recognised that there may be anomalies in individual cases between the Schedule A values of different properties, it was considered essential in the circumstances of the present time to base the contribution on figures which are readily available. He will recall that in moving the Second Reading of the Bill my right hon. Friend explained that the Schedule A basis has been adopted on the ground that it provides, by and large, a substantial and adequate contribution from property owners as a whole towards the payments to be made in respect of war damage.

    Service Expenditure (Returns)

    52.

    asked the Financial Secretary to the Treasury whether, in order to save filling up of returns, he will take the necessary steps whereby a captain or commander in the Royal Navy, a field officer in the Army, or a squadron-leader in the Royal Air Force, can certify expenditure up to an amount not exceeding £50?

    I am anxious to eliminate all unnecessary formalities, but I do not think I could accept so general a proposal. The question of delegation of financial powers within Departments is constantly under review, and if my hon. Friend will send me any suggestions for the simplification or elimination of specific returns, I will see that they are examined by the Departments concerned.

    I would like to thank my right hon. and gallant Friend for that answer, but if this suggestion is not acceptable or workable, would he think of some scheme by which the incessant filling-up of forms for comparatively small amounts can be eliminated?

    I cannot go further than I have done in my reply, which was to the effect that I am anxious to do what is possible, but that Departments naturally have a considerable power of delegation, and that if there are any suggestions which my hon. Friend wishes to make, I will be glad to pass them on. The suggestion in the Question is one which I cannot understand.

    Agriculture Improvement Council, Scotland

    53.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland why the recently constituted Agriculture Improvement Council for Scotland, consisting of 13 members, does not contain one member of the veterinary profession, despite the fact that the profession is represented on the parallel body constituted for England and Wales; and that animal farming is proportionately more important in Scotland than in England?

    The composition of the Scottish Agricultural Improvement Council is as follows: —

    • The Secretary of the Department of Agriculture for Scotland, who is Chairman.
    • Three members of the governing bodies of the Agricultural Colleges who are also practical farmers.
    • Three senior members of the teaching staff of the Agricultural Colleges.
    • Two members of the Agricultural Research Council.
    • One representative of Scottish farm servants.
    • Two members of the Department of Agriculture who have technical qualifications.
    The Secretary of the Council is an officer of the Department of Agriculture, but he is not, of course, a member of the Council. My right hon. Friend did not give special representation to any particular branch of science but selected persons who were competent generally to discharge the functions for which the Council was set up. The Council will, of course, call into consultation specialists on any subject, veterinary or otherwise, on which they may require information or advice.

    While I thank my hon. Friend for information which I have not really asked for—the composition of this Council—does he not recognise that this failure to put any veterinary officer on this body is casting a very serious slur on a distinguished profession, and is also causing a certain amount of alarm to the animal farming community of Scotland, who feel that their interests will not be adequately represented unless there is a veterinary representative on the body?

    I do not think so. There are a great many branches of science, including veterinary science, whose advice will be of the highest value and which will be sought. I do not think that the relations of the Council will be adversely affected by its membership not being overcrowded with specialists.

    Soap Manufacture

    55.

    asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Food whether soap manufacturers are receiving an equivalent to their pre-war consumption of fats and oils?

    Sufficient raw materials were allocated to the soap trade from the beginning of the war until March last to enable them to make their pre-war quantities. From March, 1941, they were restricted to 90 per cent, of their pre-war quantities, but from 1st July the figure has been raised to 100 per cent, again.

    In view of the right hon. and gallant Gentleman's statement that soap makers are now receiving their full pre-war quota, could the Minister not have allocated a proportion of these supplies to fish fryers, whose premises are now closed for lack of supplies?

    Food Supplies

    Egg Control Scheme

    56.

    asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Food whether any estimate has been made of the cost of administration of the control of eggs?

    The cost of administration of the egg control scheme depends to a considerable extent on the throughputs of eggs. On the basis of the total throughput of eight million boxes of eggs, both home produced and imported, the estimated cost of administration is of the order of £500,000 per annum, of which about one-third is due to the recent extension of control to cover home-produced eggs.

    I should hardly have thought so. It works out at about 26 eggs to one penny.

    Certainly, if you cannot get an egg at all, and if the cost is one-seventh of a farthing per egg.

    57.

    asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Food whether any estimate has been made of the time which will be required under the control of eggs scheme to transfer the egg from the hen to the consumer?

    Yes, Sir. Under the egg control scheme a proportion of home-produced eggs will continue to be sold by the producer direct to the consumer. I see no reason why any change need be expected in the process of sale in the case of these eggs. As regards eggs which pass through a wholesaler to a retailer, it is not anticipated that the length of time taken to reach the consumer will be any longer under the scheme than before it was introduced.

    60.

    asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Food, whether he is satisfied that all foreign eggs are being stamped with the name of the country of origin; and what penalty is to be imposed for failure to do so?

    The conditions for the import of eggs from the U.S.A. under the Lease-Lend arrangements provided that such eggs should be exempt from the necessity of being stamped with the country of origin. Such exemption was extended to Dominion eggs except those from Eire and certain grades of eggs from South Africa, penalties for failing to comply with the law in this respect are set out in the Merchandise Marks Act.

    61.

    asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Food, whether he is aware that, failing some amendment to the Eggs Control Order, the Standish and District Poultry Society have decided to dispose of 50,000 head of poultry; and whether, since this would seriously aggravate the shortage of eggs, he will consider an amended order in the near future?

    I have no previous knowledge of the attitude of the Standish and District Poultry Society, but an amending Order was signed on 19th July clarifying the position of the small producer. No further amendments are contemplated until the prices for the winter period of production are introduced. If the Society's intention is to sell their stock, they should encounter no difficulty, as I am informed that there is at present a great demand upon the Hatcheries for replacement stock.

    Does the right hon. and gallant Gentleman realise that if this stock is sold and sent elsewhere it will cause some transference of eggs to this district, which would not be necessary if the fowls could remain there, and can he not take such action as will enable these hens to stay where they are?

    I am not quite clear from the Question what is the reason for these hens being done away with, whether it is a question of price or lack of feeding-stuffs. If the hon. Member will communicate with me, I will see what I can do.

    Fried Fish Trade

    59.

    asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Food, whether his attention has been drawn to the Seventeenth Report of the Select Committee on National Expenditure, which demonstrated that fish and chips was the most popular dish at the two factories visited; and what steps are being taken to permit this trade to have more ingredients?

    The answer to the first part of my hon. Friend's Question is in the affirmative. As regards the latter part, all practicable steps are being taken to make available to the fried fish trade as full supplies as possible of fish, potatoes and other raw materials.

    Coal Deliveries (Small Consumers)

    62.

    asked the Secretary for Mines what steps he proposes to take to help coal merchants who cater solely for the small consumer to meet their requirements?

    One of the main reasons for the present restrictions of coal deliveries is to safeguard the position of the smaller consumers. Further steps in the same direction are being provided by the special arrangement with merchants to lay in stocks of coal against winter needs, and by the stocking of coal in dumps on Government account. Every effort is being made to ensure that the supplies of house coal coming forward are distributed equitably among merchants.

    Is the hon. Member aware that these small consumers use about one cwt. a week and have no reserve, and that they rely upon this weekly supply? Will he give the local fuel overseers authority with regard to priority of allocation for these particular consumers?

    The instructions to fuel overseers are quite clear. The difficulty is that there are not abundant supplies everywhere yet. It is a question of better supplies, and I feel sure that there will be a reasonable distribution of coal when that is forthcoming.

    Clothes Rationing

    63

    asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he is aware of difficulties which have arisen with regard to the sending of clothing parcels to prisoners of war by reason of the fact that, although the Red Cross are prepared to refund coupons expended in the purchase of clothing for prisoners of war, many relatives are not in a position to find the necessary coupons in advance, a considerable number being often required; and whether he will consider issuing special permits to deal with this difficulty?

    I am glad to be able to inform my hon. Friend that arrangements have now been made with the British Red Cross Society for an initial advance of 40 coupons to the next-of-kin of prisoners of war. These coupons may only be used for buying clothes for parcels to prisoners and will be refunded by the Society, as hitherto.

    Then it will not be necessary for the individual buying clothes in advance to give his own coupons in order to get these special coupons, which will not be taken from his own supply?

    64.

    asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he will permit recognised Service comforts associations to purchase wool for knitting without coupons, provided they give an undertaking not to abuse the privilege?

    As stated by my right hon. Friend, detailed arrangements are being worked out with the Service Departments and others concerned for the issue of coupon-free wool under certain conditions to approved organisations.

    Is my hon. and gallant Friend aware that these comforts associations like to maintain a personal touch by sending the articles which they produce to certain units and will he see that this personal touch is retained?

    I am well aware of that. That is one of the important details being worked out with the Departments.

    County Courts (Vacation)

    65.

    asked the Attorney-General whether he is aware that, although the High Court is not taking the long vacation this year, county court registrars and judges pro pose taking the usual period, 31st July until 24th September; and, in view of the inconvenience this will cause to many people who have business in the county courts, will he take steps to shorten the vacation?

    My hon. Friend has not stated the position about the long vacation in the High Court and the county court quite accurately. This year it has been decided not to abolish the usual long vacation in the High Court, although special arrangements for the taking of urgent cases have been made. There is no corresponding long vacation in the county court, and the usual period of vacation is not that described in the Question. In fact, the county courts are not closed for more than a fortnight in August or September, a period which this year has been reduced to one week. My Noble Friend is satisfied that the arrangements which have been made, and which are based on the experience gained last year, will afford ample facilities for litigants in the county court during the months of August and September.

    Publications (Information To Enemy)

    66.

    asked the Minister of Information what precautions have been taken to prevent the publication of useful information to the enemy in technical books, guide books to industries, such as the Blue Book of Electrical Industries, of 895 pages, just published, and other non-periodical new publications, such as maps and route guides?

    A circular was sent to the publishers of trade directories on 12th November, 1940, drawing attention to the necessity for great care in the compilation of such reference books in war-time, and since that date the great majority of such books have been submitted for censorship before publication. The Blue Book of Electrical Industries, which is an annual publication, was already being submitted for censorship before the circular was sent out. Since October, 1939, attention has been drawn, through the medium of the Press and various associations, to the necessity for care in the publication of maps and guide books. Over 600 maps and guide books have been submitted for censorship before publication.

    Is it the case that only those publishers who think fit to do so need submit their proposed publications to censorship; and does it not follow that if any ill purpose is intended, there will be no such submission? Is my hon. Friend aware that very useful maps and route guides, in large and small scales, are now being published in book form and put on sale all over the country?

    There is a general censorship rule in operation. This is the basis of it: As to trade directories, only information already published before the war in similar publications is permitted in regard to industrial undertakings employed or capable of being employed in war production, and only the head office address is allowed to be given; as to maps, no further information than appeared in the last pre-war on sale edition of the Ordnance Survey; as to guide books, only such information as had already been published before the war.