British Army
Medical Classification (Staff-Sergeant)
1.
asked the Secretary of State for War why 7590880 Staff-Sergeant H. Davis was placed in medical category A 1, although he had lost one eye?
Mr. Davis applied to enlist in the Royal Army Ordnance Corps in August, 1938. Owing to his visual defect, his application had to come to the War Office. It was there given special approval, and he was classed "fit for service in any part of the world." He had lost his left eye through an injury, not disease; the sight of his other eye was good, and he was otherwise fit. This classification was therefore correct. In November, 1940, a new system of medical categories was introduced, and Davis' original classification was translated as A 1, when it should have been B 3. I very much regret this error, the cause of which cannot now be traced. Even in category B 3, however, Staff-Sergeant Davis would have been fit for service as a tradesman with his corps in any part of the world.
Does my right hon. Friend know whether or not this soldier was classified as a tradesman at the time when he was reported missing?
I cannot say without notice, but I will look into that point and will let the hon. Member know.
Was Nelson A 1?
Army Council Instructions
2.
asked the Secretary of State for War whether he will consider the issue of Army Council Instructions in two parts, so that instructions affecting the welfare of the troops and not requiring security precautions may be freely available to hon. Members?
No, Sir. The separation of Army Council Instructions into two series would present considerable administrative difficulties. The more important instructions of a permanent sort, affecting the Army as a whole, already appear in Army Orders, which are published. And matter issued through Army Council Instructions, which calls for publicity outside the Service, is published in special leaflets or pamphlets.
In view of that answer, would not administrative difficulties be saved if my suggestion were adopted; and can my right hon. Friend say whether there is any reason other than strict adherence to tradition which prevents this suggestion being adopted?
Yes, Sir, the very admirable reason not to multiply the use of paper, which on all hands is regarded as the prime sin of the Army.
Venereal Disease (Preventive Facilities)
3.
asked the Secretary of State for War why official sanction has been given for the use of contraceptives in the Army; and will he reconsider his attitude in this matter?
In the British Army, as in other armies, facilities are provided whereby soldiers who wish to do so may obtain preventives against venereal disease. I do not propose to withdraw these facilities.
Gunner's Application
5.
asked the Secretary of State for War whether he has now made arrangements for the transfer into paratroops of Gunner Pragnell, No. 1732067, the details of whose case he has already received?
Gunner Pragnell has been interviewed with a view to posting to a Parachute Battalion, but, I regret to say, was not found suitable.
In view of the keenness of this young man, may I ask my right hon. Friend whether he could reply earlier to the inquiries of hon. Members, and thus avoid Questions on these private matters having to be placed on the Order Paper?
I will try to answer them as quickly as I can.
Will the right hon. Gentleman also see that he takes the requisite time to go into these matters before replies are made?
I imagine that the delay in replying in this case was due to the fact that the man was sent for an interview, and that the result of that interview was awaited.
Mobile Voluntary Aid Detachments
10.
asked the Secretary of State for War whether, in view of the concern felt at the proposal to enrol all mobile Voluntary Aid Detachments into the Auxiliary Territorial Service and the strong opposition to such a step, he will say what action the Government propose to take in the matter?
No decision has been taken in this matter. The British Red Cross Society and the Order of St. John are considering certain proposals, designed to make the best use of woman-power, and nothing more will be done until their views have been made known to the Army Council.
Can my right hon. Friend give any reasons why a change of this kind should be contemplated at all, in view of the feeling among V.A.Ds. that it is most undesirable?
I could not give all the reasons in answer to a question. It would take too long. As far as I can make out, all solutions of this problem are open to objection, and this one has been put forward as the least bad.
Will the House be given an opportunity of discussing the matter before a decision is arrived at?
I will consider that.
Cadet Force (Commissions)
14.
asked the Secretary of State for War the details of the conditions whereby the King's commission will be granted in the Territorial Army Reserve of Officers to officers of the Army Cadet Force?
As the answer is rather long, I will circulate it in the OFFICIAL REPORT.
Following is the answer;
King's commissions in the Territorial Army Reserve of Officers will in future be granted to officers doing duty with the Army Cadet Force who at present hold Lord Lieutenant's Commissions, and are approved by the War Office. It is not intended that the holder of a King's commission in the Army Cadet Force shall thereby be exempt from military service under the National Service (Armed Forces) Acts. A candidate for such a commission must therefore undertake, if so required, to attend a medical examination, and, if found fit, to relinquish his commission so that he may be called up for military service by the Minister of Labour. Commissions may be granted to candidates who are in reserved occupations or whose call-up for military service has been deferred, or who are found unfit for military service. Commissions may also be granted to candidates under the age for military service, but they must likewise undertake to relinquish their commissions on reaching the age for military service, unless they secure exemption or deferment. Commissions will not be granted to those under 17 years of age.
A cadet officer will hold the King's commission only so long as he is doing duty with a cadet unit. He will be subject to Territorial Army Regulations for discipline, and commissions may be terminated at any time under these Regulations on account of ill-health or misconduct or any other reason which, in the opinion of the Army Council, renders this desirable. In particular, commissions will be terminated if the conditions for efficiency, which may be laid down from time to time, have not been met. King's commissions will be granted in the rank of 2nd Lieutenant. There will be no war substantive promotions to higher rank other than to war substantive lieutenant. Previous service on a Lord Lieutenant's Commission or previous commissioned service with the King's commission will count towards the service required for war substantive promotion to lieutenant. Cadet officers may be given higher acting rank, if approved, after appointment to King's commissions. Cadet officers will not be eligible for temporary rank, and they will relinquish acting rank on ceasing to perform the duties for which it is granted. King's commissions for service with the Army Cadet Force may be held concurrently with a Home Guard commission. The holder of a King's commission in the Army Cadet Force will receive free uniform, i.e., battle dress, if he does not already possess such uniform as a member of the Home Guard. He will not, however, be eligible for any financial benefits from Army funds, beyond such expenses as may be payable from the funds of the Army Cadet Force.
Intelligence And Propaganda, Middle East
13.
asked the Secretary of State for War the qualifications of Major Talbot Rice for his post in charge of the Turkish section of intelligence at the War Office; what military experience he has; and whether he can speak Turkish?
Major Talbot Rice is able to speak Turkish and was chosen for his present appointment because of his ability and knowledge of the various countries with which his section deals. He was a member of the Army Officers' Emergency Reserve and was called up in the summer of 1939.
15.
asked the Secretary of State for War how many civilians have been granted commissions since the outbreak of war, for intelligence and propaganda work connected with the Near and Middle East?
No records are kept of civilians granted commissions for any particular theatre of war, and I regret therefore that I cannot give this information.
Can the right hon. Gentleman say whether the services of Regular officers who had already been trained and made suitable for this work have been adequately employed?
That point arises, I think, on the hon. Member's next Question.
16.
asked the Secretary of State for War how many officers, serving and retired, have, during the last 10 years, qualified for an extra grant for the study of Middle East languages, on the lines of the War Office pamphlet, Regulations relating to the Study of Foreign Languages; and how many of such officers are in employment in which these qualifications can be made adequate use of?
Between 1930 and 1939, 17 officers qualified as first class and 14 as second class interpreters in one or other of the Middle East languages. Of the former, 9 are now serving in the Middle East, and of the latter 5 are serving in the Middle East, 2 have become casualties and one has retired. My hon. Friend will, of course, realise that it may easily happen that officers who have language qualifications may have qualifications in other fields which are even more valuable.
Clothing Purchases
17.
asked the Secretary of State for War whether there is to be a reversion to the chit system in respect of the purchase of Army clothing?
No, Sir. There is no intention of reverting to this system beyond the limited form in which it still obtains.
Training (Communications)
19.
asked the Secretary of State for War whether he will direct that communications concerning training shall, when publicity is considered necessary, be made to Parliament or to the Press in the usual way, and not, in the first instance, to persons or institutions not responsible for training?
The original communication to which I think my hon. Friend refers was in fact addressed to Army Commanders. As a general rule I agree that if publicity is to be given to such communication's it should be given in the way suggested by my hon. Friend.
Whatever may have been the merits of that communication, did not the fact of the communication being made to the General Assembly create the impression that our training policy is subject to external influences?
I should be very sorry if it created that impression, because in fact it is not true.
Camp Site (Sewage Effluent)
20.
asked the Secretary of State for War whether he is aware that, in a camp now being prepared for troops in the home counties, it is proposed to discharge the sewage effluent direct by three boreholes in the chalk from which the water supply for the area is derived; why this proposal, which is opposed to modern sanitary engineering practice, has been proposed by officers in the Service; and whether he will ensure that no such proposals are contemplated under his authority in future?
In the case of which my hon. Friend has sent me details the chief engineer of the Command discussed the proposal with the local authorities. They at first agreed to it, but on reconsideration objected, and the proposal was therefore abandoned. Existing instructions on this subject enjoin special care where borings are made in chalk and lay down that, in cases of doubt, officers concerned should work in liaison with local health officers and municipal engineers.
Is it not advisable that this agreement should be come to not only with the local authorities, but with the water company; and should this proposal have entered the mind of any engineer possessed of modern sanitary experience?
I will consider the point.
British Prisoners Of War
7 and 8.
asked the Secretary" of State for War (1) to what extent, and in what way, his Department was connected with the decision to buy food from the American Continent to provide the parcels for prisoners of war;
(2) what part his Department played in the taking of the decision to use the reserve of parcels at Geneva, to bridge the gap to prisoners of war, when the change-over from supply from this country to the United States of America took place; and whether the War Office was a party to deciding the number of parcels to be packed here and the number from the American Continent?I am not quite clear exactly what information the hon. Member requires. I understand, however, that I am to have the pleasure of a visit from her on Friday, when I shall be glad to place before her all the information at the disposal of the War Office. If after that she cares to repeat her Questions in more precise terms, I shall be glad to answer them.
While appreciating that reply, may I ask my right hon. Friend whether he will disclose all the private information at that interview?
Are they going to have a cup of tea together?
Why should there be any secret in this matter? Why cannot the whole House be told?
11.
asked the Secretary of State for War to what extent a reorganisation of the Prisoners' Medical Comforts Department of the Red Cross is in contemplation, and what form these changes will take?
I am informed that there has been no reorganisation of the Department, but I understand that the nature and number of parcels to be despatched by it has recently been reviewed in the light of experience and certain improvements have been adopted.
Is there any truth in the report that this organisation is to be handed over to a private firm to carry out the work more efficiently?
No, Sir, but a certain amount of extra packing which is involved in the improvement will be given to a private firm.
12.
asked the Secretary of State for War whether he is aware that British prisoners of war in Stalag VIII B had received no parcels during the six weeks previous to 12th April and that they then only got one parcel to 11 men; also that parcels sent by next-of-kin in October had not reached the camp up till 12th April; and if he will make inquiries?
I cannot confirm the details given in the first part of the Question; but my hon. and gallant Friend will be glad to learn that in addition to a number of standard food parcels, the Red Cross Society despatched to this camp from Geneva, between the middle of February and the middle of April, four consignments of food in bulk approximately equivalent to four parcels a head, and that receipts for the first two consignments are known to have reached Geneva. As to the second part of the Question, I would refer my hon. and gallant Friend to the answer given by my right hon. Friend the Postmaster-General to his Question on 13th May.
47.
asked the Prime Minister whether, in view of the shortage of parcels now being delivered to prisoners of war from the three Services, he will inquire whether it would not be more appropriate to have an Inter-Departmental Committee appointed responsible to the Foreign Office?
No, Sir. This matter has been very fully dealt with in the answer which my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister gave to my hon. and gallant Friend the Membed for Wycombe (Sir A. Knox) on the 5th November, 1940, and in the statement circulated by the then Secretary of State for War on 14th October, 1941. The recent temporary shortage of parcels was explained in an answer given on 17th February last.
In view of the fact that the next of kin have lost faith in the War Office and that in particular no statement as to Mr. Stanley Adams's resignation has yet been made, which appears to be due to the Secretary of State for War, will the right hon. Gentleman kindly look into the matter himself?
Perhaps the hon. Lady will take that matter up with the Secretary of State for War if she has a particular complaint against him.
Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that my Question is directed to him? Have the Government ceased to have any interest in the prisoners of war?
No, Sir.
Was not the Department more smoothly run in the last war, when it was under the Foreign Office?
Corran Motor-Car Ferry
23.
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he is aware of the concern caused not only to the inhabitants of the Western Highlands, but to other essential traffic, by the unsatisfactory manner in which the Corran motor-car ferry across the narrows of Loch Linnhe is maintained; and whether, in view of the waste of time, petrol and tyres involved in making a 40-mile detour when the ferry-boat is at the bottom of the loch, or otherwise out of action, he will endeavour to have this motor-car ferry taken over by the Argyll and/or Inverness local authorities, or by the Ministry of War Transport?
My right hon. Friend has not previously received any representations on the subject of the ferry at Corran, which already belongs to the county councils of Argyll and Inverness and is run under the supervision of a joint committee of these councils. On inquiry, I am informed that the joint committee is considering future arrangements, in the light of recent difficulties.
Is not the Minister aware that the difficulties in connection with this ferry have been going on for at least three years? Although the ferry is owned by the county councils of Argyll and Inverness, it is leased to a private company. Will not my hon. Friend see whether some ararngement can be made to take action speedily to remedy the present state of affairs?
We shall have to await the result of the meeting which has been arranged for the 3rd of this month. No time will be wasted by the committee in dealing with this problem.
Coal Industry
Alternative Fuel
24.
asked the Secretary for Mines when the Committee under the chairmanship of Lord Henley is likely to make its report on substitute fuels; and whether this report will be made public?
I would remind the hon. Member that, in answer to a Question by the hon. Member for Stoke-on-Trent (Mr. Ellis Smith) on 24th March, I stated that the report of Lord Henley's Committee had then just been completed. I regret that it has been decided not to make the report public.
Can the Minister tell the House why this report will not be made public?
It is deemed not to be entirely necessary and not in the public interest.
Having regard to the present coal situation, does not the Minister think there is a good deal of scope for the use of substitute fuels?
That possibility has been very fully discussed. I do not think there is any lack of information on that wide subject.
Can the Minister say whether substitute fuels can be used for house fires?
The Question refers to producer gas for road transport.
Are the oil interests likely to be opposing publication?
There is no question of oil interests being involved in this matter so far as I know. I have never heard that suggested.
Boys (Apprenticeship)
25.
asked the Secretary for Mines whether he has now any further statement to make relative to the question of the employment of youths in coalmining, particularly with regard to a scheme of apprenticeship to that industry?
The problem of ensuring a sufficient number of boys and youths for mining employment, including the question of apprenticeship, is now under consideration by an independent committee under the chairmanship of Sir John Forster. I am unable to make any further statement pending the report of the committee.
Does not the Minister agree that, in view of the fuel situation, this matter is very urgent?
It is receiving urgent consideration now. There are daily meetings on the subject.
When is the committee likely to report?
I cannot say, but it will be soon.
Is the Minister considering making a recruiting appeal to the public schools and universities of this country?
I have not considered it.
Domestic Stocks
26.
asked the Secretary for Mines whether, seeing that council houses provide space for the storage of coal, he will allow stocks to be accumulated, where possible, during the summer months, thus relieving pressure on transport during the winter?
The Department has always encouraged householders to stock coal in summer, and will make provision for stocking to be resumed this summer as soon as the supply of coal permits.
Strikes
27.
asked the Secretary for Mines how many unofficial strikes have taken place in the coal industry during the last month; what was their duration; and how many men were involved?
During the three weeks ended 23rd May there were 86 strikes, involving loss of time by approximately 58,000 wage earners. The duration of the dispute varied, but, in all, 141,688 man-shifts were lost in the period. Information for the week ended 30th May is not yet available.
What steps have been taken, if any, to bring home to the miners the seriousness of the situation created by unofficial strikes?
Everything possible has been done to bring home to the minds of the men who have abstained from work the great loss and injury inflicted upon the nation by their action. I am glad to say that almost all the men are back at work to-day.
Are not these strikes illegal?
They are not strictly illegal.
Fuel And Lighting Order, 1939 (Walthamstow)
28.
asked the Secretary for Mines what action has been taken as a result of an infringement of the Fuel and Lighting Order, 1939, which was reported to the Walthamstow Borough Council on 27th March, 1942, and in respect of which the town clerk of Walthamstow was instructed to communicate with his Department?
I regret that the evidence available in this case was not sufficient to warrant proceedings.
Was the name of the person concerned communicated to the Minister?
Yes, Sir. I have read all the papers in the case, and I do not think there is sufficient ground to warrant proceedings.
Pulmonary Disease, South Wales Coalfield
54.
asked the Lord President of the Council what action the Government propose to take following upon the report of the Medical Research Council upon chronic pulmonary disease in the South Wales coalfield?
I have been asked to reply. The recommendations in the report, which affect the Mines Department, as well as the Home Office, are under active consideration, in consultation with my hon. Friend the Secretary for Mines. It is not yet possible to make any statement as to the action to be taken, but the urgency of the matter is fully appreciated and it will be dealt with with the least possible delay.
Would the hon. Gentleman bear in mind that this investigation took well over four years and that it is really desirable that urgent action should be taken? Secondly, in framing any new Order, would the Department bear in mind the desirability of ante-dating its operation; otherwise large numbers of men who would be qualified under the report will be disqualified?
With regard to the second point, we will certainly take that into consideration. As to the hon. Member's first point, although this inquiry has taken a long time, the report was only published on 16th May, and there have been other matters affecting the coal industry which have been the concern of the Mines Department since that date.
Fuel And Light
Waste
31.
asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he will ensure by Order or otherwise, that it shall be an offence for anyone to waste coal, electricity, or gas?
I am afraid that it would be impossible to enforce an Order in such general terms as my hon. Friend suggests.
Will the Minister introduce a similar Order in more specific terms? As throwing away a piece of paper is an offence, should it not be an offence also when there is a very grave waste of fuel?
Certain Orders have been made which I have mentioned to the House. There is the Order on advertisement lighting restriction. Perhaps, in the course of the Debate which we may have in the near future, further aspects of this matter will be considered.
Did not the right hon. Gentleman say about a fortnight ago that he was considering the whole question of the unnecessary use of lighting in clubs, hotels, restaurants and railway stations? Is he yet in a position to make a statement on the subject?
No, Sir, not yet, but I shall be upon an early occasion, I daresay.
Will the Minister consider encouraging a wider use of wood fires in this country, especially in some areas?
That is part of a rather larger question, and I do not think I will go into it at this moment.
Meters (Readings)
36.
asked the President of the Board of Trade whether, to save labour, he will arrange for gas and electricity meters in any building to be read by the same man whether supplies be rationed or not?
I agree with my hon. Friend that this would be a most sensible and practical economy, and I am in consultation with the representative organisations of the gas and electricity supply industries on this matter. I am glad to know that the Gas, Light & Coke Co, and the County of London Electric Supply Co. have already made such arrangements in certain areas.
Gas (Price)
37.
asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he is aware that his prohibition for over a year of any increase in the price of gas caused heavy loss to municipal and commercial gas suppliers; and whether he proposes to grant a subsidy to meet this loss?
No, Sir. Since the Board of Trade Order was made on 26th May, 1941, prohibiting increases in the price of gas except under licence, less than 10 per cent. of gas undertakings have applied for licences to raise their prices to the public. Most of these applications have been granted in whole or in part. I do not think it can be maintained that gas undertakers are being treated unfairly in comparison with other industries which have suffered as a result of the war and I am not prepared to recommend my right hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer to grant a subsidy from public funds.
Trade And Commerce
Clothes Rationing
32.
asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he will consider the allocation of clothing coupons for overalls, etc., to flour confectioners so as to bring them in line with the allocation for bread bakers, in view of the fact that all bakehouse work involves heavy wear and tear on clothing?
Trade unions representing the workers referred to by my hon. Friend should submit their case for supplementary coupons for the present rationing period to the Board of Trade, through the Trades Union Congress, when I shall be very glad to consider it.
Is my right hon. Friend aware that this matter has been submitted to the Trades Union Congress and that no satisfaction has been obtained? Does he realise that these overalls are necessary in the work of preparing food?
I shall be very glad to look at any argument which my hon. Friend or the trade unions representing these men put up.
38.
asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he has considered the claim of the Clyde Boilermakers Shop Stewards' Association for an increase of extra clothing coupons; and has he any statement to make?
I shall be glad to give full consideration to any claim that trade unions representing shipbuilding workers may put to me through the Trades Union Congress for the present rationing period.
Am I to take it that the right hon. Gentleman recommends the representatives of the men to make applications through their various trade unions, and that such applications will receive his fullest consideration?
Yes, Sir. We are always very glad to give full consideration to any application so submitted; we are now just starting a new rationing period, in which supplementary coupons may be adjusted.
Have any representations been made in the past by the unions representing these men?
Yes, certainly.
Small Traders
33.
asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he is aware of certain advertisements which have appeared in trade and other papers whereby an endeavour is being made to acquire small shops as going concerns at realisation prices; and, since the practice of profiting by distressed circumstances created by the war is undesirable, whether he will take steps to investigate these matters and find an alternative solution to the difficulties of those traders and small businesses which are adversely affected by reason of their personnel being called to the services?
I am aware of the practice to which my hon. Friend refers, and I am considering an amendment of the provisions of the Location of Retail Businesses Order accordingly.
While appreciating what my right hon. Friend has said, may I ask whether he will take immediate steps to see that small businesses are not absorbed by larger concerns? Any delay must inevitably lead to their being ruined and never being able to get into business again.
Yes, Sir. I hope very shortly that the amendment to which I refer may be able to be put into effect.
Will the Minister give consideration to the issue of licences to small businesses which are closed down in consequence of the war, so that they may have priority in re-establishing themselves after the war?
That is a separate point, but perhaps the hon. Member will put it on the Paper.
It is a very good suggestion.
Nucleus And Closed Firms
34 and 35.
asked the President of the Board of Trade (1) whether he will give a list of the nucleus firms in the toy trade in this country;
(2) whether he will give the reason for refusing to supply lists of nucleus and closed firms to members of the trades concerned?It would be contrary to the interests of public security to publish the names of nucleus and closed firms in any industry. The names are, however, given on request, and in confidence, to representative trade associations. I am sending to my hon. Friend, for his confidential information, a list of nucleus toy firms.
Is there any reason why individual traders, who will be very badly affected by these closing Orders, might not have the information, assuming, for example, that they are not members of any trading associations?
It is important, for the reason that I have suggested, to keep this information within as narrow a circle as possible. I am sure that my hon. Friend will appreciate that the enemy would like to know the details about our concentration of industry.
Is it seriously suggested that the toy industry is of strategic importance?
No, Sir, but the reason why we are carrying out concentration in this and other industries is in order to put to a strategical purpose premises, machinery and labour, previously used for non-strategical purposes, for war production and the storage of war material. It is not desirable to tell the enemy about those matters.
Does not the right hon. Gentleman realise that there is grave anxiety among people whose small businesses have been closed? Surely there is no reason why a list should not be given in confidence to such individual firms of firms which have been closed, or even made nucleus firms, so that they can get into touch with each other?
There is no difficulty about getting into touch with other firms for the purpose of combining.
Domestic Pottery
39.
asked the President of the Board of Trade what steps he has taken to ensure that more adequate supplies of pottery will be made available to the public at reasonable prices?
An Order has been made under which the manufacture of domestic pottery is subject to licence and, by directions issued yesterday under the Order, production for the home market is restricted to certain simple types of plain white, light ivory and brown pottery. Exports have been reduced by 20 per cent. since 1st May, and a further cut of 20 per cent. will be imposed as from 1st August. By these means, supplies for the home market will be substantially increased. On the recommendation of the Central Price Regulation Committee, I made an Order yesterday regulating the distributors' margins for all domestic pottery and fixing maximum retail prices for certain essential articles which will be marked in three qualities according to their grade. Manufacturers' maximum prices have also been fixed.
Has the right hon. Gentleman taken steps to ensure that labour will be left in the Potteries to comply with the Orders?
I hope so, but there is great competition for labour at present.
When will a supply of these utility articles be available to the public, and what steps have been taken to control prices until they are available?
Prices are controlled as from now on. A schedule of prices is attached to the Order which I signed yesterday. So far as production is concerned, we are pushing forward as fast as we can.
Will the Order fixing the prices be made public?
Certainly.
Is it necessary to restrict the export of pottery in order to ensure sufficient for the home market?
Yes, Sir. I said that the home market must take precedence over the export market for this purpose.
Central Committee Of Export Groups
40.
asked the President of the Board of Trade whether, in the selection of the personnel of the Central Committee of Export Groups, he has had consultation with local chambers of commerce and other representative trade organisations; whether Birmingham and the Midland area, with its exporting activity in normal times and its capacity for the production of competitive goods after the war, is represented on this committee; and whether he proposes to publish the terms of reference of the Board of Trade to the Central Committee of Export Groups?
The members of the Central Committee of Export Groups have been selected for their personal ability and their wide experience of industry and export trade, and not as representatives of particular industries. There was, therefore, no question of consulting trade organisations. The terms of reference of the Committee were stated in the reply which I gave on 19th May to my hon. Friend the Member for Govan (Mr. Neil Maclean).
Does not my right hon. Friend think that a large industrial area like the Midlands and Birmingham, where alone there are 1,200 separate industries, should have some representation?
If we considered one area, we should have to consider many others, and it was felt to be convenient in this case that the appropriate export groups should be the channel of communication. The Birmingham trades, like any others, will be able to make their views known through their industrial channels.
Have we not suffered enough in the past from Birmingham's opinion on these things?
Are the merchants represented on this export group?
I gave the list the other clay; perhaps my hon. and gallant Friend will look it up.
Greece (Food Supplies)
41.
asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Economic Warfare, what progress has been made in the carrying out of arrangements for the controlled supply of food for the Greek people; and whether the good offices of the Swedish authorities have yet secured the consent of the German and Italian Governments to a satisfactory plan of relief?
As indicated in my reply of 19th May, we addressed a communication to the Swedish Government on 9th May, requesting elucidation on certain important points in the German and Italian replies. No answer has yet been received to this communication.
Would it be possible to make use of the good offices of the Vatican in order to secure the necessary information?
I am sure that the Swedish Government are doing everything possible to secure an early reply to the inquiry.
Germany (Fuel Rationing)
42.
asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Economic Warfare whether he has any information as to the various developments in respect of fuel-rationing schemes in Germany; and what is the present scheme in that country?
Solid fuel has been rationed in Germany since the beginning of the war, and the various changes which have been made from time to time have all been designed to reduce consumption. In the year 1940–1941 households heated by stoves were allotted coal and coke according to climatic zones, number of rooms and number of inhabitants. During the year 1941–1942, however, they have had a basic allowance of half a ton of brown coal briquettes, or a lesser amount of better quality fuel. Householders who have no facilities for using gas or electricity received an additional ration. Centrally heated buildings received the same quota as the previous year, provided that it did not exceed 6 tons, but persons living in such buildings who also needed coal for cooking and washing purposes were only permitted 50 per cent. of the previous year's ration. Similar arrangements are being continued this year.
Can my hon. Friend say anything about the rationing of electricity and gas?
Electricity and gas have never been rationed in Germany. Of course, they have never been used for domestic purposes to the same extent as in this country.
Would it be true to say that in fact a universal rationing scheme had ultimately to be considerably modified on account of the practical difficulties met with?
There has never been a universal rationing scheme, but only one for coal and other solid fuels. There has never been a rationing scheme for gas and electricity.
House Of Commons Refreshment Department
43.
asked the hon. Member for Dulwich, as Chairman of the Kitchen Committee, what steps it is proposed to take to reduce the delays in servicing in the strangers' refreshment room?
The Kitchen Committee are trying to find additional accommodation, but owing to the limited space available in the Strangers' Refreshment Room, delays in service are bound to arise during the peak periods.
Has my hon. Friend considered the possibility of obtaining the services of some more part-time women to work in that room?
It is not a question of increasing the staff, but of increasing the space available. We cannot put a quart into a pint pot.
Is my hon. Friend not aware that the slowness of the service is due to the total inadequacy of the staff?
I do not agree that the staff is insufficient. There is only a certain serving space, and you cannot put more than a certain number of people in it.
Civil Defence
Personnel (Employment)
44.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether, and to what extent, Civil Defence personnel are being used in useful work of national importance, when their services can be spared from their ordinary Civil Defence work?
The policy to be followed in the matter was set out in a circular issued to local authorities on 14th April. I am sending my hon. Friend a copy of this circular. Transfers from the Civil Defence services to industry are being made in increasing numbers by my right hon. Friend the Minister of Labour and National Service. Further, other Civil Defence personnel are being employed without change of status on work of national importance not hitherto regarded as Civil Defence duties, but my right hon. Friend has not, as yet, asked the authorities to inform him of the arrangements made or the numbers involved.
While I thank my hon. Friend for his reply, and for what has been done, will he realise that there is still an enormous amount of labour being lost, and will he take every step he can to see that it is utilised and not wasted?
Certainly, Sir.
Will the hon. Member realise that the circular talks about snow and coal, of which there is not much about? Will he suggest some other work of local importance?
It does not talk about snow and coal as providing the only possible employment for Civil Defence personnel.
Looting (Penalties)
62.
asked the Home Secretary whether, in view of the great difficulty of preventing looting during and immediately after air raids and of the reluctance of the judiciary to utilise the death penalty for the offence, he will, to protect the public, now authorise such offenders being dealt with by military courts with plenary powers?
From time to time representations have been made to my right hon. Friend both that particular sentences are too heavy and that sentences in general are too light, but the information available as to the penalties imposed by the courts up and down the country does not support the suggestion that there has been any general reluctance to pass adequate sentences. The suggestion that the time and attention of military officers should be diverted to the business of trying civilian offenders would, I am sure, be unwelcome both to the military authorities and to Parliament.
Is my hon. Friend aware of the great satisfaction which was felt in a town recently bombed when it was rumoured that the military had been given orders to shoot first and to inquire afterwards?
I am not aware of those circumstances, but my hon. and gallant Friend may be pleased to hear that 60 sentences of penal servitude have been imposed for looting.
Would the hon. Member make it quite clear that it is not the intention of the Government to establish military courts with plenary powers to deal with special offences, apart from any local circumstances which might make that course necessary?
Yes, Sir; that is quite so.
Are the Government prepared to establish the death penalty for commercial and economic looting, which, quite apart from the offences which have been referred to, takes place in normal times?
War Effort (Financial Help, United States And Dominions)
45.
asked the Prime Minister whether he will give time for a discussion on the Motion standing on the Order Paper in the name of the hon. Member for North-East Leeds relating to our appreciation of the financial assistance to the war effort received from the United States of America, the Dominion of Canada and other Dominions?
[That this House desires to place on record its high appreciation of the generous financial assistance which this country has received from the United States of America and from Canada, and its indebtedness to those of our Dominions which have rendered help and assistance in so many ways.]The nation's high appreciation of the generous financial assistance received from the United States of America and Canada and our gratitude for the help so freely given us in countless ways by the Dominions as a whole are not, I think, in any doubt, and my right hon." Friend the Prime Minister has endeavoured to voice it on various occasions on behalf of the country and of this House. In the circumstances, no formal reaffirmation of our gratitude is, in my judgment, required at this stage.
May I ask the right hon. and learned Gentleman whether he does not consider that during the Budget Debate totally inadequate appreciation was expressed of the magnificence of those contributions, when the easing in our financial position is almost entirely due to the assistance from America and Canada?
Will the right hon. and learned Gentleman guarantee that our appreciation will not lead us into any unwise treaties at the end of this war?
Is it not a fact that reciprocation has been the best answer that could possibly be given, and that it has been freely given?
War Strategy (Service Ministers)
46.
asked the Prime Minister whether he will consider the advisability of giving the three Service Ministers a closer and more precise relationship with the strategical conduct of the war?
The three Service Ministers are always present at meetings of the War Cabinet when any matters relating to the conduct of the war are discussed. They have constant access to the Cabinet or to the Minister of Defence at any time they wish. They are also members of the Defence Committee. In practice they work in the closest contact with their respective Chiefs of Staff. It is not proposed to make any alteration in this arrangement at the present time.
Do they know anything about strategy at all?
Malaya And Singapore
48.
asked the Prime Minister whether any reports have yet been received from General Wavell on the loss of Malaya and Singapore as the result of the request made to him for such a report prior to 14th April, 1942; and whether he has any statement to make?
No, Sir.
When does the right hon. Gentleman expect to receive the report, as the Prime Minister told us on 13th April that one had been called for? Six weeks have now passed. Has the right hon. Gentleman any idea when it will arrive?
I cannot say, but the hon. Gentleman will realise that General Wavell is engaged in military operations and has to carry on the war as well as think about past events.
Is the right hon. Gentleman not aware that in order to avoid General Wavell having to do it himself he was asked to appoint an officer to do it for him? Has that been done?
I will make inquiries.
Has the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster made a report; and can that be made available to us?
That is another matter.
49.
asked the Prime Minister whether the steps recommended with regard to the air-raid precautions defences of Singapore were taken; and whether arrangements were planned for the efficient blowing up of the causeway and the destruction of the graving dock?
There was in operation at Singapore a well developed Civil Defence organisation. A local war committee, upon which civil and Service representatives co-operated, was appointed in 1940 and kept the A.R.P. plans under constant review. The answer to the second part of the Question is in the affirmative. Arrangements were planned for the efficient blowing up of the causeway, and were carried out with complete success; as regards the graving dock, it is known that the caisson and pumping machinery were destroyed and that, in addition, an oil hulk was sunk across the entrance to the dock.
Can the right hon. Gentleman tell us whether the recommendations contained in the report from the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster were put into practice? Is he aware that reports reaching home state that the causeway was so ineffectively blown up that it was repaired by the Japanese in 12 hours?
Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that the information he has given to the House conflicts with many authoritative reports which have reached this country? Is it not about time that we had some official statement about this matter?
I do not know what reports the hon. Member has had. I am giving the official reports which we have had.
Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that both the Army and—
rose.
China (British Assistance)
52.
asked the Prime Minister whether he will give an assurance that, despite the result of the campaign in Burma, every practicable step will be taken to maintain contact with our Chinese Allies and to send them as many aircraft and other supplies as can be spared so that they can continue to resist any Japanese attack which may be concentrated upon them?
Yes, Sir. His Majesty's-Government are determined to continue to do everything within their power to assist the Chinese Government in the prosecution of the war in the manner suggested by my hon. Friend as well as in any other way which may prove possible.
Armed Forces (Emoluments)
53.
asked the Prime Minister whether, in view of the disparity in the emoluments enjoyed by those in civilian employ and those serving in the Forces and the hardships thereby entailed, particularly as regards the discharge of such obligations as mortgages, he will consider increasing the pay of those serving in His Majesty's Forces, either by additional weekly payments to the individual or else by instituting a system of deferred payment which would be received in a lump sum by a man on demobilisation?
My hon. and gallant Friend will recollect that the emoluments of the Forces were reviewed by His Majesty's Government a few months ago and that a number of improvements, including the institution of the post-war credit, were announced by my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister on 10th February last. I cannot in these circumstances undertake now to review the matter afresh. As regards the discharge of financial obligations by members of the Forces, the improved arrangements for war service grants are designed to prevent hardship from this cause.
Does the right hon. Gentleman appreciate that the discrepancy in the payment made to one man in the Army as compared with another man who is doing the same job leads to a considerable amount of soreness, and is he aware that the disparity in payment between men who are risking their lives in the service of the country and those in industry is a source of considerable uneasiness throughout the country?
Is my right hon. Friend aware that the Labour Party Conference last week asked for an increase in the pay of these men, and will he take note of that?
Yes, Sir.
Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that there is still considerable feeling in the country about the treatment of Service men and their dependants, particularly in regard to investigations into their family means? Will he take steps to look into the matter and re-examine it, with a view to an early decision?
I will certainly take note of any points which my hon. Friend brings before me.
Will the right hon. Gentleman not look into the general question himself? Is he not aware that great movements of different types in this country are feeling keenly about this matter?
National Finance
Coal Royalties (Compensation)
55.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer when the ownership of coal royalties passes to the Government what will be the estimated annual income; what will be the amount of compensation to be paid to the coalowners; and in what way will compensation be paid?
The estimates of royalties on which compensation was based were just over £5,000,000 gross, and just under £4,250,000 net, both figures being before deduction of Income Tax. It is impossible at present to make any reliable estimate of the future income of the Coal Commission. At the vesting date it is likely to be rather below those figures. The compensation, excluding subsidiary coal hereditaments, is fixed at £66,450,000, and will be paid in cash.
Are they going to invest it in War Loan?
British Residents Abroad (Property And Income Returns)
56.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what steps he has taken under the Regulation of 27th March to obtain from British subjects resident outside the sterling area returns of their property and income; how many cases have been dealt with; and the total and average sums involved?
The necessary documents and forms are being sent to His Majesty's Representatives abroad, and there will be no avoidable delay in taking action in appropriate cases. Owing, however, to the slowness of communication in present circumstances, some little time will probably elapse before returns can actually be demanded and received.
When the returns come in will my right hon. Friend consider giving the information suggested in the Question, or some information of that kind?
Yes, I will give that matter consideration.
Excess Profits Tax
57.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer the attitude of the Government towards payment of Excess Profits Tax in cases where it is imposible to find the money at the time it is due without seriously restricting such stocking up of lubricating oils or other commodities needed in the war effort as is recommended by the Petroleum Department; and can arrangements be made for delayed payments to the Revenue where this can be proved to be necessary?
It is important, in the national interest, that Excess Profits Tax should be paid when it becomes due, and that concerns should take all possible steps to ensure that they are in a position to meet their liabilities. I am afraid, therefore, I could not agree that the holding of stocks to which my hon. Friend refers should be regarded in itself as warranting a deferment of collection of any Excess Profits Tax that may be due.
If I send particulars of any special cases of hardship, will they be considered?
Certainly.
Will they be submitted to the Unemployment Assistance Board?
Civil Service (War Dependants' Pensions)
59.
asked the Financial Secretary to the Treasury what payments are made to the widow of a civil servant who dies as the result of his service in the Armed Forces, over and above the standard pension payable by the Ministry of Pensions?
There is no pension payable to the widow of a civil servant as such, but a gratuity ranging from 12 to 18 months' pay is payable to the legal personal representatives of an established civil servant of five years, or more, service. In the case of an unestablished civil servant with at least 15 years' service, a gratuity at the rate of one week's pay for each year served is payable to his dependants. These payments are made irrespective of whether the death occurred while the officer was serving with the Forces, or while he was in civil employment.
How is it that in the case of civil servants their previous service entitles their widows to additional payments if they are killed whereas that rule does not apply in the case of flag officers from the Retired List who are now on active service for the duration of the war?
The question of flag officers is another matter. I was dealing with civil servants.
Will my right hon. and gallant Friend consider the principle involved?
Retail Businesses (Licensing)
60.
asked the Financial Secretary to the Treasury whether he can now make a statement as to obtaining powers to restrict the issue of Excise licences to genuine traders, thus helping to eliminate black-market racketeers?
Yes, Sir. I am sending my hon. and gallant Friend a copy of a new Regulation which has now been added to the Defence (General) Regulations.
Electoral Registration And Redistribution (Committee)
61.
asked the Home Secretary what committee is sitting at the present time charged with the duty of formulating a redistribution of Parliamentary seats scheme; how it is constituted; what progress has been made; who has been consulted; and whether questions of electoral reform are also to be considered?
The terms of reference and constitution of the Committee on Electoral Machinery were given in a reply by my right hon. Friend to a Question by my hon. Friend the Member for Harrow (Mr. Bower) on 8th January last. The question of electoral reform is not included in the terms of the reference. I have no knowledge of the procedure adopted by the Committee, which is, of course, free to decide upon the evidence it requires and the sources from which it can be obtained.
Does not my hon. Friend think that the time is approaching when a committee should consider the question of electoral reform, as well as that of redistribution?
My hon. Friend will, no doubt, be aware of the statement made by the Home Secretary on this matter in the Debate on 23rd October, 1940, to which I am afraid I cannot add at the present time.
Blackbirds And Thrushes (Trapping)
63.
asked the Home Secretary whether he is aware of the number of blackbirds and thrushes which have been caught and trapped for edible purposes; and whether he can take steps to prevent the wholesale slaughter of these singing birds?
I have no information to support the suggestion that large numbers of these birds are being taken for the purpose mentioned, but if my hon. Friend can give me any particulars I will have further inquiry made.
Is my hon. Friend aware that the food value of these birds is negligible, and that their extermination would be a national calamity? Is he aware of the thrill which men who come back from overseas get on seeing and hearing these wild birds? Will he look into the matter if I give him information?
Yes, Sir. We have so far had only one complaint on this matter, and that was without details which would enable us to investigate. I am sure that the bird population as a whole is anxious to play its full part in the war effort.
Is the hon. Member aware that these birds are going, as food, not to those people who need food, but to many what eat too much already? Is it not a scandal that these birds should be killed for such a purpose?
Ministry Of Information And Bbc (German Employees)
64.
asked the Minister of Information whether he will give an assurance that it is neither his policy nor that of the British Broadcasting Corporation to employ Germans in the Ministry of Information and in the British Broadcasting Corporation if British subjects with equal knowledge and experience are available?
Yes, Sir, provided British subjects are suitable in other respects.
Bacon-Curing Industry (Concentration)
65.
asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Food the present position with regard to the concentration of the bacon industry; and whether he has considered the objections put forward by the Midland Bacon Curers' Association?
With regard to the first part of my hon. Friend's Question, meetings to discuss concentration have been held in London and in Glasgow, to which all members of the bacon-curing industry were invited. My Department is now working out the details of a concentration plan with the representatives of the trade associations. The reply to the last part of the Question is in the affirmative?
Would my right hon. and gallant Friend bear in mind that this industry is working up to something like 80 per cent. of its pre-war capacity and that the supply of bacon is increasing?
Without accepting either of those two statements, I will certainly look into the matter.
Ethiopia (Doctors)
66.
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether travelling facilities will now be accorded to urgently needed refugee doctors from this country and /or from Palestine to Ethiopia?
I have received no request from the Ethiopian Government to facilitate the journey to Ethiopia of the persons indicated by my hon. Friend, nor have I been informed that the need for them is urgent.