House Of Commons
Tuesday, 14th December, 1943
[Mr. SPEAKER in the Chair]
Oral Answers To Questions
Queen Victoria Statue, Dublin
1.
asked the Under-Secretary of State for Dominion Affairs whether his attention has been drawn to the declaration by the Prime Minister of Eire that his Government have under consideration the request of the Dublin Corporation for the removal of the statue of Queen Victoria from its position in front of the Parliament House in Dublin; and whether, to save this statue from the indignities inflicted on those of King William III and King George II, His Majesty's Government in the United Kingdom will make an offer to the Government of Eire to purchase this statue for removal to the United Kingdom?
The point raised by my hon. Friend is a hypothetical one. He will have seen that in a recent statement in the Dail Mr. de Valera indicated that no decision had been taken in this matter which was not regarded as one of urgency.
May I ask whether the hon. Gentleman will take some steps to save this statue from the fate meted out to that of King William III, which was blown up in 1929 in College Green, and the statue of King George II in St. Stephen's Green, which was threatened with a similar fate, was blown from its pedestal, but was saved for the City of Birmingham through the activities of Professor Bodkin?
I do not think the statue is in any immediate danger.
Beware.
Trade And Commerce
Woollen And Worsted Industry (Exports)
3.
asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he is aware that American woollen and worsted manufacturers may now buy and use wool without limit, whereas British users of wool are strictly limited and controlled; and, as British woollen and worsted manufacturers in some markets are in competition with them, whether he will now allow some relaxation in the restrictions upon the use of wool in this country?
4 and 5.
asked the President of the Board of Trade, (1) in view of the possibility that in international post-war trade Britain's role will be producer of high-class goods and as, for our woollen and worsted cloth, the United States has been one our best markets, will he consider whether consistent with the war policy, it would be possible to allow a moderate export of goods to the United States?
(2) Whether he is aware that, with the exception of a small quantity of hand-manufactured woollens, the Government have, since the end of May, refused to issue further licences to export British woollen and worsted goods to the United States; that this prohibition is resented by American importers, some of whom have long confined themselves to the distribution of British goods; and whether, as this prohibition must have disastrous consequences on our future export of woollen and worsted goods to the United States which will be necessary to us after the war, he will remove this prohibition?As I informed my hon. Friend the Member for Shipley (Mr. Creech Jones) on 2nd November, His Majesty's Government consider it necessary to give priority to the essential needs of the home market and of the Empire. The total quantity of wool piece goods available for export is barely sufficient to meet minimum Empire requirements, and I am afraid that no relaxation of the restrictions on export to the United States or Latin America is possible at present.
Is my right hon. Friend fully seized with the importance of maintaining the Yorkshire woollen trade in the post-war years?
Yes, Sir. I have had a number of consultations with those concerned with the woollen and worsted industry, and we are well aware of its importance, but the immediate question is that our own people and the Empire must come first.
Does not my right hon. Friend consider that he is pushing this question of restrictions too far and murdering the export trade? If he is so anxious to help the Empire, why does he refuse a licence to export to our oldest Colony, Newfoundland?
I am not restricting the export trade more than the conditions of labour and material necessitate. The bottleneck in the export trade is one of labour rather than of material, and I say that we should export to members of the family in the Empire before we export to other people when things are short.
In the right hon. Gentleman's consideration of this matter will he bear in mind that if we are to have the highest quality of these goods, we must pay attention to the Scottish woollen industry?
We al ways have a special thought for Scotland in our minds, and there are some special arrangements with regard to it.
If, as the right hon. Gentleman says, he is looking after the interests of the Empire, why does he refuse to grant a licence to export to Newfoundland?
That is a particular point, and if my hon. Friend will put a Question down, I will be glad to answer it.
If the bottleneck is labour, will the right hon. Gentleman consider allowing the woollen manufacturers of Northern Ireland, where labour is surplus, to provide a greater export?
We shall be glad to look into that too.
Rationing Order Offences, Manchester
7.
asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he can give any information in connection with seven men and three women, who were charged with having 620,519 coupons and offences relating to the supply or acquisition of cloth, silk and suitings; whether he is aware that one of the accused, a Manchester shipper, was with the Board of Trade; whether he has seen the statement made by Mr. Justice Cassels; how the coupons were obtained; and what action he intends taking about this matter?
On 9th December, following investigations by my officers in collaboration with the police, seven men and three women were convicted at Manchester for offences against the Consumer Rationing Order. No coupons were obtained. The offences arose from the diversion to the home market, and mostly to black marketeers, of cloth issued coupon-free for purposes of export. The sentences imposed amounted in the aggregate to more than 19 years' imprisonment, and to nearly £10,000 in fines and costs. None of the accused has ever been in the employment of the Board of Trade. I have read a report of the remarks made by Mr. Justice Cassels in passing sentence. I have removed one of the accused, a Manchester shipper, from the register of exporters under the Consumer Rationing Order.
Toys (Prices)
8.
asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he is aware of the exorbitant prices being charged for toys; and whether he has any statement to make?
As my hon. Friend is no doubt aware, I made an Order last April, limiting the margins of profit which manufacturers, wholesalers and retailers may charge for toys and indoor games, and, in addition, fixing an over-riding maximum retail price of 24s. 5d. (including Purchase Tax). I hope that members of the public will report to their local price regulation committee any cases where they think they have been overcharged.
May I report to the right hon. Gentleman that I paid 2s. 11d. for these two pieces of wood stuck together, and does he think that that is a suitable price under his Price Control Order?
I am surprised at the simplicity of my hon. Friend.
Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that if I had not paid 2s. 11d. for this or some similar article, my child would have no toys at all?
Industrial Supplementary Clothing Coupons
9.
asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he now has any statement to make regarding the issue of supplementary clothing coupons to agricultural and industrial workers for the present rationing period?
Yes, Sir. As I informed the House on 3rd August, the industrial supplements will be continued at the same level in this rationing period as in the last. The 10 supplementary coupons, for which 12,500,000 workers are eligible, will be available from to-morrow at the local offices of the Ministry of Labour, from which full details can be obtained. Other special arrangements, on the lines of those made last year, will also continue in force during this period.
Retail Traders (Post-War Licensing)
10.
asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he is now able to make a statement regarding the licensing of retail shops after the war?
In agreement with my right hon. Friend the Minister of Food I am replying on his behalf as well as my own.
The present system of licensing retailers is an essential part of war-time control. It will not, however, be possible to bring it to an end with the cessation of hostilities in Europe, and the present arrangements for licensing shops, whether those selling food or those covered by the Location of Retail Businesses Order, will have to continue for some time during the transition period. But it is not the intention of His Majesty's Government that these arrangements should be permanent. So long as licensing continues during the transition period, it will be operated so as to facilitate the return to their former businesses of persons on the Board of Trade Register of Withdrawing Retail Traders. A comparable arrangement will apply as regards food retailers. In suitable cases, disabled persons selected in co-operation with my right hon. Friend the Minister of Labour will also be granted licences to enable them to enter non-food retail trade. The same principle will be followed in the food trades, but the number of openings will be few so long as the present system of consumer rationing has to be maintained. The existing arrangements for the granting of retail licences will be continued during this transitional period, but will be expanded in the directions I have indicated.Will these arrangements be carried out by legislation or by Order in Council? What will be the position of those who are not on the register?
As to the exact legal authority for these arrangements in the transitional period, I cannot give an answer, but the Government will ask the House at an appropriate moment to make suitable provisions to enable these arrangements to have the force of law during the period I have indicated. With regard to the register, I would once more like to ask all hon. Members to give the utmost publicity to it, particularly in view of the statement I have made, which adds to its importance. Every trader who gets on to the register will be entitled to return to his business after the cessation of hostilities in Europe. On the other hand, those who do not get on to the register will have to be looked at a second time, but I hope that as many as possible will get on to the register.
Is it intended to give any priority to ex-Service men under this scheme?
Yes, Sir. I have already tried to make it clear that, first, ex-Service men who are on the register will have priority, and, second, disabled persons, including but not wholly including ex-Service men, who were not in retail trade before the war will have an opportunity of entering. That will be worked out in consultation with the Minister of Labour. It would not be desirable for too many disabled ex-Service men with no previous experience of retail trade to push in, as they did after the last war, with very unfortunate results. On the other hand, it is our duty to see that these men are fairly treated.
In dealing with the problem of issuing licences to enter retail trade after the war, is it intended that the determination will rest exclusively with the Food Ministry, or will local authorities be asked to advise Government Departments?
I am speaking here for the Board of Trade and not for the Ministry of Food. So far as the Board of Trade is concerned, we shall keep in being the existing machinery, whereby we have local committees with a wide representation who advise us on these licensing questions.
What about a person who has not been registered who wants to trade where there is a need to satisfy the public? Will such a person be able to be registered if no one else in that area is desiring registration?
I am not sure that my hon. Friend has quite appreciated what the register does. The register records the names of persons who were in non-food retail trade before the war. What I have said is that every person who is on the register will be entitled to return to the same place and the same kind of business. Persons not on the register who desire to open a shop will be able to apply for a licence through the existing machinery, and these licences will, I anticipate, be given in larger numbers as the shortage of goods, which is the fundamental reason for the whole of this arrangement, abates.
May I ask whether facilities exist for including Service men overseas on the register?
We are continually publicising the register. It is no good the hon. Member shaking his head. There have been frequent references to it in the Press, and there have been references on the radio, and I invite my hon. Friend and all other hon. Members to do their bit in publicising it in their own constituencies.
rose—
We cannot spend all the time on this Question.
Portuguese Wolfram (Export To Germany)
12.
asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Economic Warfare what proportion of the total quantity of wolfram now used annually by Germany is imported from Portugal; and whether any further steps have been taken with the Portuguese Government to stop this trade?
My Department estimates that approximately one-half of Germany's annual consumption of wolfram is now being supplied from Portugal. As I informed my hon. Friend the Member for North Lambeth (Mr. G. Strauss) on 30th November, the Portuguese Government have been left in no doubt about our views on this subject.
Is it not possible for us to purchase the whole supply of wolfram from Portugal?
I wish that it were, but I have pointed out that we do purchase substantially larger quantities than the enemy.
Can the hon. Gentleman say when the latest approaches were made to the Portuguese Government on the matter? Has any approach been made in the last month or two?
I could not give the exact date off-hand, but quite recently representations have been made to the representatives of the Portuguese Government.
Housing
Temporary Policy
13.
asked the Minister without Portfolio whether in addition to a long-term housing policy the Government are also preparing plans for a short-term policy of temporary housing; and, if so, what industries are being called upon for assistance in this work?
Yes, Sir. Plans for temporary housing are now being worked out, and, as soon as conclusions are reached on the issues of policy involved, all the interests concerned will be consulted.
Can the right hon. and learned Gentleman say what industries are being called in specially to assist?
I cannot say until we have got the details of these plans, but all the industries concerned will be called into consultation.
Does the right hon. and learned Gentleman mean the building industries? My question applies specially to industries outside the building industry?
It is obvious that for temporary housing industries outside the building industry may be concerned, and so far as they are they will be consulted.
London Region
88.
asked the Minister of Health whether he is aware that many shops in the Metropolitan area have vacant rooms above them; and what action he proposes to take to enable local authorities to have that accommodation renovated and adapted for domestic occupation, especially in those cases where the shops are now empty?
Yes, Sir. My right hon. and learned Friend has recently delegated to clerks of local authorities power to requisition buildings, including shops, for domestic occupation, and I am sending my hon. Friend a copy of the circular on the subject.
Can the hon. Lady say how many of these premises have been acquired, seeing that there are a large number in the suburbs of London?
I cannot give the hon. Member that information without notice.
Can the hon. Lady say why action was not taken before the fifth year of the war?
Earlier in the war it was not necessary to requisition shops and houses for the purpose my hon. Friend has in mind except in particular districts.
These are the districts we are talking about.
Is the hon. Lady aware that the Secretary of State for War has dozens of buildings empty he will not occupy?
89.
asked the Minister of Health whether he has any approximate estimate of the number of unsatisfied applications for housing accommodation that have been made to local authorities in the Metropolitan police area during the past two years; also of the number of dwelling-rooms in the area now occupied for military purposes; also of the number of houses now damaged that could be made habitable and the number that should be built; and what consultations have taken place respecting the provision at the earhest possible date of temporary structures as dwellings?
The reply to the first two parts of the Question is "No, Sir," but my right hon. and learned Friend has already received from 67 of the 95 local authorities in the London Region programmes for the erection of 21,500 houses as a first instalment. The number of houses damaged and still uninhabitable is approximately 38,000 but in many cases their repair at the present time would entail excessive demands on labour and materials. On the last part of the Question, I would refer my hon. Friend to the reply given to-day by my right hon. Friend the Minister without Portfolio, to the Question from my hon. Friend the Member for Gravesend (Sir I. Albery).
Cannot the hon. Lady easily secure the information asked for in the first part of the Question, and further, will she take all steps possible to see that premises now occupied by the military are evacuated at the earliest possible date, as quite a number of these premises were previously tenanted?
There are many premises that are being used by the military and by various bodies that have to be accommodated and the matter has been looked into to see what further arrangements could be made. But the hon. Member will realise that certain people have to be housed in certain districts so that the accommodation they occupy cannot immediately be released.
United States Army Vehicles (Claims For Compensation)
14.
asked the Secretary of State for War, why British claimants have so far not been given the same facilities for the assessment and settlement of claims, arising out of personal injuries and material damage caused by American Army vehicles, as for agricultural claims arising out of American Army exercises; and whether he can now make a statement about future arrangements?
These matters are still under discussion with the American authorities, and I regret that I have nothing to add to previous replies on this subject.
Will the right hon. Gentleman bear in mind the difficulties that have arisen in connection with claims against the Canadian Forces?
That is a different question altogether.
British Army
Billeting Form
15.
asked the Secretary of State for War why one-fifth of Army Form B55, which is the billeting notice in current use for soldiers, is devoted to the billeting of horses; and when a horse was last billeted?
As long as there are horses in the Army the Army must be able, if necessary, to billet them. The provisions for horses take only it lines on the normal billeting form. If these were removed a special form would have to be printed and issued to all those who might need them. Horses are billeted when occasion arises but without making extensive local inquiries I could not say when was the last occasion.
Is it really necessary to have all these details on the form? For instance, is it necessary to say that the manure remains the property of the War Department?
I daresay this form is an interesting survival, like many other things. I know too that there are mule companies, and I always understood that a mule is at any rate equal to half a horse.
16.
asked the Secretary of State for War why Army Form B55 includes details of the pre-war scale of meals required by the Army Act for billeted soldiers; and when an Army billeting notice, appropriate to war conditions, will be devised?
The billeting form naturally quotes the provisions of the Army Act under which it is issued. But it explains that in practice, the quantities of nationally rationed articles of food (e.g., meat, bacon) supplied will be limited to those allowed by the soldier's ration card, and that the balance necessary to give a reasonable standard of feeding may be made up by other foodstuffs. Suitable substitutes may be provided for any other items of the scale which may be unobtainable or prohibitive in price. This seems to me the most appropriate way of meeting war conditions.
Could not all this out-of-date verbiage be cut out after four years of war and information which he really requires be given to the householder?
The form states the legal position, and I think it is much simpler, instead of printing an entirely new form, to stick on this temporary qualification of the legal position.
South African Officer (Reversion To Unemployment)
19.
asked the Secretary of State for War why an officer, of whose name he has been informed, who served in the last war and gave up his farm in South Africa to serve in this one, has been called upon to resign his commission upon an adverse report from his commanding officer which the sub-district commander, in forwarding it, described as neither justified nor fair to the officer concerned; and why the request of the officer for a personal interview with a member of the Army Council in accordance with King's Regulations has not yet been granted?
In reply to the first part of the Question, both the Commanding Officer and the Sub-District Commander recommended the removal of this officer from the appointment he held at the time when he was being reported on. The Army Council in the light of these and other reports they had received on this officer, decided that he must be reverted to unemployment and called upon to resign his commission in the Regular Army Reserve of Officers. As regards the second part of the Question, this officer's request for an interview at the War Office was received on 27th November. It is not always possible to arrange an interview at very short notice. He was, however, interviewed on 11th December by the Deputy Adjutant-General.
Can my right hon. Friend say whether the other reports which he now refers to were known to the officer and whether the officer has had any opportunity of putting his side of the case in regard to them?
I have not the slightest doubt about that, because an adverse report must be seen by the officer concerned and be initialled by him.
Africa Star
21.
asked the Secretary of State for War whether, in connection with the distribution of ribbons for the 1939–43 Star and the Africa Star, he is aware that many officers and men who fought in North Africa and are now in this country and in some cases recovering from wounds, have not yet received their award; and whether he will expedite distribution in such cases?
Officers and men who fought in North Africa are candidates for the Africa Star. Adequate stocks of ribbon for this Star are available at home and abroad, and I am not aware that its distribution has been held up in any way.
24.
asked the Secretary of State for War why the troops who fought with great gallantry and inadequate resources in the Eighth Army between September, 1941, and October, 1942, are deprived of the right to receive the clasp of the Africa Star?
The Eighth Army Clasp has been instituted specially to commemorate the great drive which started at El Alamein on 23rd October, 1942, and ended with the expulsion of the enemy from Africa. Those who left the Eighth Army before 23rd October, 1942, did not take part in this drive and so, I regret, do not qualify for the clasp.
Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that the Eighth Army did exist before General Montgomery took it?
25.
asked the Secretary of State for War whether he will give immediate reconsideration to the omission to award any clasp or emblem to those troops who took part in great victories in Africa prior to the formation of the Eighth Army?
My right hon. Friend will have an opportunity of raising this question in the forthcoming Debate on these matters.
Does that answer mean that no change will take place, desirable and just though it may be, until we have had a further Debate on this matter?
If my right hon. Friend will look at the answer given by the Prime Minister, he will see what the position is.
Is my right hon. Friend aware of the great dissatisfaction among people who have done gallant work and are entitled to consideration?
Repatriated Prisoners-Of-War (Baggage)
22.
asked the Secretary of State for War whether he is aware that personal baggage belonging to badly-wounded repatriated prisoners and carried on the "Empress of Russia" to Leith in October, has not yet been delivered; and whether he will take action in the matter?
A number of those repatriated from Germany had to be transferred in Gothenburg from one ship to another, and some then became separated from their baggage. Many of these articles were not labelled, and it has taken some time to find their owners. I am glad to say that the owners of all but 16 of over 300 originally unidentified packages have now been traced.
Flats (Requisitioning)
23 and 27.
asked the Secretary of State for War (1) on whose instructions a non-commissioned officer was instructed to interrogate the maidservants at a block of flats, the name of which has been given him, for the purpose of inquiring what tradesmen and what other persons visited the resident;
(2) what labour, civilian and military, has been employed for the purposes of reconditioning them during each of the weeks since his Department requisitioned the flats, the address of which has been furnished to him?The order to obtain this information was issued by the competent military authority. I have personally satisfied myself that it was necessary for military reasons to obtain it and also to carry out certain work at these premises.
Since the work has not yet been carried out and since the right hon. Gentleman's Department has been in possession of the premises for seven weeks, is it not about time that his Department became a little more efficient?
The hon. Member knows a great deal, but he does not know everything about this matter.
As I took the precaution to examine one of these flats this morning and found that no proper work had been clone, that it was in a filthy condition and not provided with blackout material, what is the use of saying that I do not know all about it?
I am quite fair to the hon. Member in saying that he does not know all about it, and I am extremely anxious that he should not.
Training And Education
26.
asked the Secretary of State for War whether he has any plans for making the post-war Army a means of providing training and general education for soldiers; and possibly, under conditions approved by the trade unions, utilising the military for carrying out public works, especially the provision of houses?
I am not clear whether in speaking of the post-war Army the hon. Member means the Army as it will be after the defeat of Germany and before that of Japan or whether he means the Army as it will be after the defeat of both. If he means the second I think that it is too soon to have definite plans in the sense he suggests, but I can definitely say that a great deal of study on these and many other points is going on. If, however, he means the former I must make it quite clear that the over-riding purpose of the Army will be the defeat of Japan at the earliest possible moment. Subject to that I can assure him that the needs of the Army by way of training and education are being and will be a matter of prime concern to the Army Council. Nor will possibilities such as that referred to in the second part of the Question be overlooked.
On account of the great complexity and the immense importance of this question, I beg leave to give notice that I will raise it on the Adjournment at the earliest opportunity.
Officers' Widows' Pensions
34.
asked the Secretary of State for War whether he has now come to a decision regarding the pension rights of widows whose husbands have been killed while temporarily holding an unpaid higher rank?
I regret I have nothing to add to my previous replies to my hon. and gallant Friend.
While admitting the justice of the analysis in regard to this matter in the communication which my right hon. Friend has been good enough to send to me, I would ask whether it would not be possible for some form of discretion to be exercised in favour of officers who have been killed during the probationary period?
That is a matter which requires more time to deal with than is possible within the limits of a Parliamentary answer.
Military Personnel (Use In Dock Strike)
36.
asked the Secretary of State for War whether members of the Pioneer Corps and the R.E.'s, who were called to certain docks in the week ended 6th November last, in the course of a dockers' strike, to unload certain cargoes, received any extra pay for the work; whether any of the men were injured; and whether any special recognition was given to the non-commissioned officers who volunteered to operate the cranes?
I much regret that five men were injured while doing this vital work. They were on military duty, and the answer to the first and third parts of my hon. Friend's Question is "No, Sir."
Is it not a fact that some of these non-commissioned officers volunteered for the work, although they had no previous experience of it, and that some of them were injured? Does my right hon. Friend think it is right that they should be treated less favourably than the highly-trained section of the population who understand those working conditions?
I think it is the business of the Army to do anything they are asked to do which is essential to the war effort, and particularly the military part of it. The unloading of those stores was an integral part of the military effort.
Will not my right hon. Friend reconsider his attitude in this particular instance, in view of the very useful service that was rendered?
I am very well aware that the Army renders extremely useful service in this direction and in a great many others. That does not alter the fact that the men were detailed to do it as a military duty.
Naples Library Books
38.
asked the Secretary of State for War what steps are being taken to safeguard the books evacuated from the Naples Library to Zuni and other Italian villages now in the occupation of British troops?
I have at present no information about the action taken by the Army in this matter. As I mentioned in a reply to my hon. Friend the Member for Shrewsbury (Mr. Arthur Duckworth) last week, the War Office Adviser on Fine Arts, Archives and Monuments is now visiting Italy and Sicily. He will no doubt bring back information about this, and I will then communicate with my hon. Friend.
Will my right hon. Friend make some inquiry about this matter?
I do not know how I can better make inquiries than by sending a man out to see on the spot.
I presume that the right hon. Gentleman could send out inquiries to the officer responsible on the spot. Does my right hon. Friend pay any attention to Parliamentary Questions?
I do not see what more I can do than to send a man out to inquire on the spot. I am asked if I will make inquiries, and I reply that I have sent someone out to make inquiries on the spot. What more can I do?
Destroyed Property
39.
asked the Secretary of State for War what claims for compensation for permanent loss of income can be paid to owners of destroyed property, in view of the fact that the Claims Commission are unable to meet any compensation for consequential damage that will result from the application of Defence Regulation 52?
As the answer is somewhat long, I will, with my hon. Friend's permission, circulate it in the OFFICIAL REPORT.
Is there any compensation for people in those circumstances?
I should be extremely grateful if my right hon. Friend would look at the answer. It is a long answer, and it is couched, in part, in extremely technical and legal language, and I would rather have notice of any conundrums on this particular subject
Following is the answer:
The answer to my hon. Friend's Question largely depends on the meaning attached to "consequential damage." This might be held to include loss of profits and it is a part of the Government's policy that claims for such losses should not be entertained. In another sense claims as a result of consequential damage are in fact regularly met For example a farmer may lose his pasturage as a direct result of damage and he may be obliged to pay to graze his stock elsewhere while the damage is being made good. Such a payment is admissible in the circumstances.
As regards compensation for permanent loss of income the Claims Commission is empowered to meet all proper claims for damage to property other than those requisitioned under Defence Regulation 51 or under contract. Such payments may be made to the owner or to the occupier as the circumstances require, the crucial point being that no claim is paid twice over. In the case of farm land being totally destroyed, it would be assessed as an entity—the ceiling being the capital value of the damaged asset less the value of salvage—and the total sum of compensation thus arrived at would be apportioned amongst the interested parties according to their respective interests.
This should place a tenant in substantially the same position as if the military use had not taken place, because—as a result of receiving his share of the total capital damage to off-set his liability for rent—he is enabled to employ his tenant's capital elsewhere. As regards the landlord, he receives the capital value of the damage or of his reversionary interest, whichever may be the less, and though he will not recover his loss of income as such he will have received the capital value of the asset destroyed and this of course he is free to invest as he pleases.
Welfare Facilities, India
40.
asked the Secretary of State for War whether his attention has been drawn to the criticism by the Director of Army Welfare of the lack of assistance given by British women in India to Army welfare; and what steps he is taking to improve the welfare facilities for British troops serving in that country?
The answer to the first part of the Question is "Yes, Sir." The second part of the hon. Member's Question is primarily a matter for my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for India, and in this connection I would refer him to the reply given to him on 2nd November by the Deputy Prime Minister. The Director of Army Welfare has been to India to study the problems on the spot, and his experience will be available to help in improving the welfare arrangements in India in future.
Was the Director of Army Welfare sent out on the express instructions of the War Office? Is not the right hon. Gentleman aware that many hundreds of thousands of British soldiers are serving in India for whom he himself is responsible, and will he cease this business of passing it on to the Secretary of State for India?
If my hon. Friend will look at the answer by the Deputy Prime Minister, he will see that I have no intention of passing the buck to anybody or to evade my own responsibility. The Director of Army Welfare was sent out there on our initiative.
Was a detailed report submitted to the right hon. Gentleman by the Director of Army Welfare before this interview was given, or to the Secretary of State for India?
I cannot say. I must have notice of that Question.
Leros (Notification Of Casualties)
42.
asked the Secretary of State for War whether the relatives of officers and men who were casualties in the fighting at Leros have yet been notified?
All the casualties at Leros which have been reported to this country have been notified to the next-of-kin, but, judging from the figures at my disposal, not all the casualties that occurred, anyhow in the way of missing personnel, have yet been reported to the War Office. Action had already been taken to expedite the notification of casualties from the Middle East and I hope that particulars of any outstanding casualties will shortly be received.
Could the right hon. Gentleman say what the total was?
I think I answered that question previously.
Sunday Entertainments
43.
asked the Secretary of State for War what representations he has received by or on behalf of commanding officers, welfare officers and others associated with the Army in connection with the banning of Sunday performances for the troops; whether he has taken any steps to ascertain the feeling of officers and the ranks on this matter; and whether any restrictions are imposed on the presentation of plays or of entertainments in costume when given in military camps?
I am aware that action has been taken to stop proposed entertainments for the troops on Sundays outside military camps which would infringe the Sunday Entertainments Act, 1932. The amendment of the Act has been frequently considered by my right hon. Friend the Home Secretary, and in this connection I would refer my hon. Friend to the reply he received on 8th December. There is no restriction on the presentations of plays or entertainments in costume inside military camps.
Is the right hon. Gentleman not aware that practically every soldier to whom I have spoken feels that it is absurd to discriminate in this way between costume shows inside a camp and outside? What steps is he taking to see that those who fight on Sundays should also have the recreation they desire on Sundays?
As I understand it, this remedy is within the discretion of the House, and in 1941 the House rejected a proposal on the subject.
Would it not be advisable to give the House of Commons, many of whose Members have an undue fear of the Sabbatarians, a lead in the matter?
The Home Secretary in 1941 did give a lead, and it was rejected.
Will the right hon. Gentleman consider the whole question of the common informer?
Will the right hon. Gentleman answer the first part of the Question, regarding the ascertainment of welfare officers and others regarding this matter?
I hardly need to ascertain. I have not the slightest doubt that the vast majority of these troops regard this procedure as ridiculous.
Cmf Hospitals
44.
asked the Secretary of State for War whether he is satisfied that the surgical staff in hospitals in the C.M.F. is sufficient to deal with the casualties; and whether he is aware that at one hospital in the C.M.F. there are or were only one or two surgical specialists who were responsible for over 2,000 beds, out of which there was an average of 900 surgical cases?
The answer to the first part of the Question is "Yes, Sir," with the general qualification that owing to the universal shortage of doctors the Army cannot have as many doctors as it would like, and with the particular qualification that when Armies move across the sea, as in the case of our Forces which invaded Sicily and Italy, hospitals must necessarily be closed during the voyage and until they are established on the other side. The answer to the second part of the Question is "No, Sir," and I should be grateful if my hon. Friend would forward me particulars.
I have such information, which I will gladly give to the right hon. Gentleman.
Thank you.
56.
asked the Secretary of State for War the average time spent in hospital by a soldier suffering from venereal disease in the C.M.F.; and are adequate facilities provided in forward areas for the immediate treatment of these cases so that they do not become resistant to treatment owing to constant re-evacuation and spasmodic treatment?
A soldier who has to be sent to a hospital suffering from venereal disease spends on the average 22 days there. But adequate facilities are normally available in the forward area for cases which do not require specialist treatment in hospital.
Troops, Italy (Winter Clothing)
57.
asked the Secretary of State for War how many complaints he has received that our Forces in Italy are still wearing the khaki drill in use in North Africa, which is unfitted for the climate now being experienced in Italy; and whether any steps are being taken to equip these troops with more suitable clothing?
The local distribution of winter clothing was timed to begin in the middle of October, and, as far as I know, all troops in Italy are now in their winter clothing.
Will the right hon. Gentleman answer the first part of the Question, as to how many complaints he has received?
I have heard of one or two, and that is all. They probably relate to the period before the middle of October, which I have referred to as the crucial date.
Naafi (Prices)
33.
asked the Secretary of State for War whether, in view of the fact that the accounts of N.A.A.F.I. for last year show that they made a profit of more than 8 per cent., he will consult with the Board of Management with a view to the reduction of the prices of articles sold to the troops?
Nearly three-quarters of that 8 per cent. was paid out in the agreed 6 per cent. rebate and discount to unit funds. The balance provides a working margin which hardly seems excessive, particularly as sums for entertainment must be provided out of it.
Will my right hon. Friend institute an inquiry into N.A.A.F.I. policy in providing cheap entertainment at the expense of the soldiers' purchases of refreshments?
I am in favour of that policy, and I do not think it is necessary to have any inquiry about it. In any case, if the whole of the profits, including those allotted to entertainment, were to be distributed in the form of reduction of prices, it would not, over the whole field, be more than one penny in the shilling. That is a fair measure of the profits obtained; but I understand that N.A.A.F.I. are considering the question of selective reductions in prices in overseas theatres.
British Prisoner Of War
35.
asked the Secretary of State for War the reason for prisoner of war No. 90332, Thomas Lynch, being sentenced by the German authorities to death in 1941, the sentence being later commuted to one of 15 years' imprisonment; and in view of the anxiety of this man's mother who is a war worker in Slough, has already lost one son in the war and has four others serving, he will ask the Protecting Power to inquire into the conditions under which Thomas Lynch is confined in a prison at Bremen; and what his diet is as he is not allowed to receive parcels and is reported to be in a weak condition?
This man was not sentenced to death but to 15 years' penal servitude for mutiny and arson. He was one of a number of merchant seamen to whom I referred in a reply I gave my hon. and gallant Friend on 30th November. As I stated, representations have been made to the German Government against the long sentences of penal servitude and the Protecting Power have been asked to visit these men at regular intervals and report on their condition. These men are given the normal German prison diet, but they are not allowed to receive parcels.
Military Prisons And Detention Barracks (Recommendations)
41.
asked the Secretary of State for War whether he is now in a position to make a statement as to the action which is being taken to give effect to the recommendations of the Committee of Inquiry set up by the Prime Minister to investigate the conditions in military prisons and detention barracks; and as to any decision reached with regard to the medical officer in medical charge at Fort Darland detention barracks immediately prior to the death of Rifleman Clayton?
In view of the length of the reply and the general interest which has been shown in these matters in the House, I propose, with your permission, Sir, to make a statement after Questions.
Later—. Immediately after the death of Rifleman Clayton on 17th March arrangements were made for a court of inquiry to investigate and report on the cause of his death. This was the first court of inquiry set up in connection with this matter. It reported that Rifleman Clayton had died from natural causes but that his death was accelerated by ill-treatment and injuries which he had received. Meanwhile, however, as a result of the verdict of the inquest held on 12th May, the two warrant officers responsible were committed for trial on charges of manslaughter, and further military inquiries, which would inevitably have involved these two men, had to be suspended pending their trial. A separate second court of inquiry which had already been set up to inquire into the medical aspect of the case was, however, proceeding with its work. Its report found that the medical officer at Fort Darland had made an error of judgment in the diagnosis of the case after carrying out a full examination of his patient but that he was not guilty of negligence. This opinion was confirmed by the Director-General of Army Medical Services and the Consulting Physician to the Army, and I have accepted this opinion. The report of this second court revealed further that a non-commissioned officer and a private had made errors of judgment but that they were not guilty of neglect. Immediately on receipt of the report, the General Officer Commanding issued instructions designed to minimise the possibility of the recurrence of these errors of administrative judgment and to ensure that staff concerned with these medical matters are fully aware of their duties and trained to perform them. The two warrant officers were convicted of manslaughter at the Maidstone Assizes on 25th June, and it was then open to pursue the question of the military administration at Fort Darland. A third court of inquiry was set up for this purpose and started its sittings on 5th July. This court had the following terms of reference:The court found no serious cause for criticism, but made a number of detailed recommendations about conditions at Fort Darland. Some of these recommendations affected all detention barracks. Action was taken on the majority of them, but in regard to some which concerned the establishments of staff at detention barracks and barrack regulations generally, it was thought desirable to await the outcome of the Oliver Committee, which had meanwhile started its investigations. The Report of the Oliver Committee was published on 22nd November, and its recommendations have been and, to some extent, still are being closely examined. They have all been accepted in principle, and most of them are in fact now being implemented. With the present very limited resources of man-power and materials it is impossible in some cases to do this as fully and as speedily as would otherwise be desirable. I am circulating in the OFFICIAL REPORT a tabular statement showing the progress which has so far been made in implementing the recommendations of the Committee which concern the Army. But while the various recommendations made by the Committee are important and are receiving the urgent attention they deserve, the House will, I am sure, agree with me that the most important feature in the Report is the fact that a Committee carrying such weight and public confidence has stated categorically that:"To investigate and report on Fort Darland Detention Barrack and the treatment of soldiers under sentence there. The report will cover all aspects of the soldiers' treatment from reception until discharge, including inspections by outside authorities, medical care and medical inspections, the administration and supervision of discipline, welfare arrangements, feeding, accommodation and sanitation, education and training, and the adequacy of the staff provided."
and that"the main matter for public concern, viz., calculated brutality to men in detention, does not in their opinion exist,"
"there is not now, nor has been for some time past, any violence or physical ill-treatment practised upon men in detention."
With reference to the medical aspect of the Clayton case, can the right hon. Gentleman say whether there was any indication on the medical history sheet of the disease from which he was suffering and ultimately died?
I should like to have notice of that question. If the hon. Member will put it down, I will look it up and give an absolutely categorical answer. My recollection is that there was no such indication.
Was the right hon. Gentleman's statement drafted in association with the First Lord of the Admiralty, and are we to take it that it covers naval detention quarters?
No, it does not cover naval detention quarters. I understand that the First Lord proposes to make a statement on the next Sitting Day.
Following is the statement:
Recommendation
(1) Establishment of Military Provost Staff Corps training school.
This has been established. Its first course started on 11th December.
(2) General increase in staff at all establishments.
Proposals for increases have been worked out and are now being examined in detail.
(3) Existing Regulations against use of obscene language should be more strictly enforced.
The relevant part of Rules for Military Detention Barracks and Military Prisons is being strengthened and interim orders have already been issued.
(5) Additional Commissioned Officers at all Military establishments.
Proposals for increases have been worked out and are now being examined in detail.
(6) Appointment of whole-time Medical Officer for each establishment. Changes of such Medical Officer should be infrequent.
With the present shortage of doctors it is impossible to implement this recommendation in full now. Steps have, however, been taken to ensure that a medical officer is immediately available at each establishment if required. Medical officers are, however, attacked for full-time duty at the larger detention barracks, of which Port Dar-land is one.
(7) Provision of Sick quarters in all establishments where they do not exist.
A full report on detailed requirements to implement this recommendation has been called for from the Commands concerned.
(8) Improvement of night sanitary arrangements in all establishments.
The necessary improvements are now being carried out.
(9) That all diet tins be rendered and kept bright.
Defective utensils are being changed.
(11) Facilities for general education and training should be extended.
Much progress has already been made in Army establishments in this respect and arrangements are being made to raise the standard at all military establishments to the standard of the best of such establishments.
(12) The system of segregation of different types of detainees at present in force should be strictly maintained.
The existing instructions on this matter are explicit and the importance of ensuring that they are obeyed is fully realised.
Other points raised in the Report but not the subject of specific recommendations are being considered.
Empire War Casualties
45.
asked the Prime Minister whether he is now in a position to give an up-to-date casualty list since the outbreak of war?
The total number of casualties of the Armed Forces of the British Empire for the first four years of war is now being prepared. It is necessary, however, to consult the Dominions before publication can take place, and this takes time. I will try to arrange for the information to be published as soon as this can be done without assisting the enemy.
Armed Forces (Medal Ribbons)
46.
asked the Prime Minister whether he is aware of the disappointment felt at the continued delay in the issue of any medal ribbons to the Fighting Services in respect of the current war; and whether he will expedite the issue of such ribbons?
The reply to the first part of the Question is in the negative. The issues have, however, been expedited, and ribbon has been sent to ships of the Fleet and to Commands in sufficient quantities to provide for qualified officers and men within the totals of 809,965 and 299,611 for the Africa and 1939–43 Stars respectively.
Is the Deputy Prime Minister aware that the situation is now arising whereby many men and women have been discharged from the Forces for various reasons back into civilian life with nothing to show that they have ever served their country in war, whereas Governments of Allied fighting countries have issued medals to all their troops?
That seems to me a different question.
Will the Deputy Prime Minister bear in mind the very widespread feeling that all those who served with the Colours in the fateful years between 1939 and 1943 should have the right to wear this ribbon?
Civil Service
Ex-Service Personnel
47.
asked the Prime Minister whether he will move for the appointment of a Select Committee to report upon the conditions under which ex-Service men and women should be employed in the Civil Service after the war?
No, Sir. It would be premature at present to make any announcement about the employment in the Civil Service after the war of able-bodied ex-Service men and women.
Will the Deputy Prime Minister bear in mind the disputes and recriminations which arose out of this matter after the last war, and is it not very desirable that difficulties of this sort should be avoided if possible after the present war?
Yes, Sir. The Government are fully aware of that, and this matter is being fully investigated.
Minor Grades (Promotion)
55.
asked the Financial Secretary to the Treasury what steps are being taken to provide more rapid promotion for minor grades in the Civil Service, including those graded as temporary; whether he has considered representations on this matter from the staff organisations concerned and what was his reply?
I have had no representations on this matter, and I am not aware that any action is called for.
Post-War Defence Forces
48.
asked the Prime Minister what plans the Government have made for the retention or provision of adequate and suitable post-war Defence Forces?
In the course of their consideration of post-war problems, the Government are investigating the nature and extent of the Defence Forces which it will be necessary to maintain, but the time has not yet come to formulate any definite plans.
As this matter obviously requires further discussion, I propose to raise it on the Adjournment. If I may, I would like to ask your advice, Mr. Speaker, about whom I should raise it with. This Question was addressed to the Prime Minister.
Will my right hon. Friend ask the Prime Minister whether it will be possible to announce at the earliest possible moment that it is the intention of the Government to retain compulsory military service after the war, in view of the very strong belief in this country that if after 1918 we had been able to put 4,000,000 or 5,000,000 men into the field this war would not have happened?
I must remind the hon. and gallant Member that the hon. and gallant Member for Ayr Burghs (Sir T. Moore) has given notice that he will raise this question on the Adjournment.
Emergency Powers
49.
asked the Prime Minister whether the undertaking given by the Secretary of State for Air on behalf of the Government, on 21st August, 1940, that the Emergency Powers Act and the regulations and penalties derived from it will vanish with the passing of the emergency still represents the intention of the Government?
The Prime Minister's message, which was announced by my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Air in his speech on 21st August, 1940, was, of course, mainly directed to civil liberties; in particular, a free Parliament and a free Press. Having re-read the message, I can assure my hon. Friend that it still represents the intention of His Majesty's Government, namely, to dispense with the powers in question as soon as the emergency has passed.
May I ask specifically whether this refers to the Emergency Powers Act?
If the hon. Member will read the reply, I think he will see.
National Finance
Inflation
51.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether the Government have made any change in their attitude to the danger of inflation; whether he is aware that rises in many prices and costs are constituting a threat to the purchasing power of our currency; and whether the Government propose to take any further steps towards avoiding serious inflation?
While some prices and costs may have risen further in recent months, the prices of necessaries, as measured by the cost-of-living index, have remained stable. No new threat to the purchasing power of the £ can be said to have arisen, and I do not think the situation requires any new steps to be taken by the Government. But the dangers of inflation are no less present than before, and it is certainly necessary that the various anti-inflationary policies hitherto followed should continue to be rigorously applied.
Is it not a fact that inflation is the only possible way out of the financial tangle in which we have involved ourselves?
Excess Profits Tax (Bonuses For Employees)
52.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether his attention has been drawn to the action of Carreras, Limited, in giving their employees six weeks' wages as a Christmas bonus; whether such a bonus is chargeable against Excess Profits Tax; and whether, in view of the desire expressed from time to time that companies should limit their dividends to the pre-war figure in order to avoid any tendency towards inflation, he will emphasise the undesirability of paying bonuses in the form of wages on similar grounds?
I cannot furnish information regarding the liability to tax of a particular taxpayer and am not, therefore, in a position to say how the particular bonus to which my hon. Friend refers would be treated for the purposes of the Excess Profits Tax. I can only say that the law contains special provisions in Section 32 of the Finance Act, 1940, regarding the allowance for Excess Profits Tax purposes of payments in respect of services and the application of these provisions in any particular case is a matter to be determined by the assessing and appeal authorities by reference to the circumstances of the case. In reply to the last part of the Question, I doubt if any useful general comparison can be drawn with the policy of limiting dividends, and I think the matter can safely be left to the judgment of those concerned.
Is not the disbursement of large sums of money to be spent at Christmas or any other time absolutely inconsistent with the whole anti-inflation policy of the Government?
Is not a firm to be encouraged to treat its employees generously, especially at Christmas time, even though it be in war-time?
Would it be in Order for the right hon. Gentleman to suggest to this company that they issue Savings Certificates instead of issuing money wages?
I do not think that would really make much difference.
Is the right hon. Gentleman not aware that all good employers in the country do give a bonus at Christmas time?
I am aware that it is a very usual practice.
Rent Tribunals, Scotland
63.
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland in what towns tribunals will be set up to arbitrate on fair rents for sub-let furnished apartments?
On 17th November I issued a circular to all local authorities asking them to consider as a matter of urgency the question of applying the Rent of Furnished Houses Control (Scotland) Act to their areas. Thirty-two local authorities, whose names I am circulating in the OFFICIAL REPORT, have already represented that the Act should be applied to their areas, and I am in communication with them in regard to the setting-up of the necessary tribunals.
Following are the local authorities who have asked to have the Act applied to their areas:
Severn Barrage Scheme
64.
asked the Minister of Fuel and Power the names of the engineers who will form the technical body to review the conclusions of the Severn Barrage Committee in the light of later engineering experience and practice?
The gentlemen whom I have invited to undertake this work are Mr. A. G. Vaughan Lee, Mr. S. B. Donkin, and Mr. W. T. Halerow. They have accepted my invitation, and have started work.
Is it possible to review the whole scheme: barrage, electrical works, and road and railway connections?
I could not say about the latter part—I will look into that—but certainly the former part.
Will my right hon. and gallant Friend represent to the Committee the necessity for an early Report, so that action can be taken?
Yes, Sir.
Hire Cars (Petrol Allowance)
66.
asked the Minister of Fuel and Power whether he is now in a position to make a statement regarding allowances of petrol to private motor-car hirers?
No, Sir. This matter remains under review, in consultation with other Departments. I would, however, point out that provision is already made for increasing the allowance of a hire car proprietor beyond the normal scale where good cause is shown; and I am not at present satisfied that any further provision is required.
Is my right hon. and gallant Friend aware that, while we appreciate the changes he made some months ago regarding private hire vehicles, the position is still most unsatisfactory in many areas, where people are cheating wholesale, and when they cannot get rations of petrol they get private cars?
Is my right hon. and gallant Friend aware that recently the Department refused to grant any petrol to a disabled ex-Service man to drive a car for hire, although he had the necessary licence from the licensing authority?
I shall be glad if my hon. Friend will give me particulars. Obviously, I cannot answer without them.
Coal Industry
Exports To Italy And Sicily
68.
asked the Minister of Fuel and Power how much coal has been exported to Italy and Sicily since the Allied invasion, to the nearest convenient date?
I would refer my hon. and gallant Friend to the answer which I gave to a similar Question by my hon. and gallant Friend the Member for Penryn and Falmouth (Major Petherick on 12th October.
To what extent do Italians in the occupied territory depend on British sources of supply; and how does their coal ration compare with ours in this country?
All I can say is that the overwhelmingly greater part of the coal sent to these territories is used for operational purposes. I do not think that my hon. and gallant Friend would compare the standards in this country with those in occupied territories.
Wasteful Consumption
69.
asked the Minister of Fuel and Power what proportion of coal is still wastefully consumed whole; and in what countries this is illegal?
I assume that my hon. Friend refers to the use of coal in open fires by domestic consumers. Approximately a quarter of the total national output is burnt in this way. I regret I am not able to provide the information for which he asks in the second part of the Question.
Does-not this House consume coal wastefully, and will my right hon. and gallant Friend stop it doing so?
I do not think that that really is correct. If my hon. and gallant Friend will go round this House, he will find far fewer fires than there were before.
There is plenty of hot air.
Machine Mining
70.
asked the Minister of Fuel and Power how much machinery to take the place of miners has been installed in British mines; and whether he will ensure that more mines adopt this method, in order that wages may be increased and labour shortage cease?
Of the total output of coal in the United Kingdom, the proportion cut and conveyed by machinery is about 65 per cent. My hon. and gallant Friend may rest assured that it is the policy of my Ministry to foster the use of machinery to the fullest practicable extent.
Colliery Canteens
71.
asked the Minister of Fuel and Power what progress is being made with regard to the establishment of full-meal canteens in the mining industry?
Full-meal services are provided at collieries employing rather more than half the workers in the coal-mining industry, and the extension of these facilities to cover another 20 per cent. of the workers is in hand.
Prisoners Of War (Employment)
72.
asked the Minister of Fuel and Power the policy of the Government in regard to the employment of prisoners of war in the coalmines?
It is not the intention of the Government to employ prisoners of war in the coalmines.
Can my right hon. and gallant Friend say why, in view of the fact that these prisoners must have at least as much capacity and experience as our own boys?
There is one difference: they have not the English language, which helps a lot.
You do not hew coal with the English language.
Would my right hon. and gallant Friend consider putting conscientious objectors in the coalmines?
Output
73 and 74.
asked the Minister of Fuel and Power (1) whether the output of saleable coal per man-shift worked during the year ended 30th June, 1942, was 21.28 cwts., as stated by him in answer to a Question on 26th October, 1943, or 20.95 cwts., as would appear from his answer to a Question on 11th November, 1943;
(2) whether the average output of coal per man-shift worked at the coalface in the month of August, 1942, was 2.81 tons, as stated by him in answer to a Question on 29th September, 1942, or 2.68 tons, as stated in answer to a Question on 9th November, 1943?
As the answer is long and involves a number of figures, I will, with my hon. Friend's consent, circulate this answer in the OFFICIAL REPORT.
The answer is as follows:
The figure of 21.28 cwts. quoted in my answer to my hon. and learned Friend the Member for North Edinburgh (Mr. Erskine-Hill) on 26th October was given in response to a request for a figure comparing with the pre-war published figure of 22.96 cwts. for 1938. My hon. Friend will be aware that prior to the establishment of my Ministry the only available monthly and quarterly figures of absenteeism and output per shift were those collected by the industry in connection with the district wages ascertainments. These were incomplete and did not, in my view, present a true picture. Comprehensive and accurate returns have been collected by my Ministry, and comparable figures for earlier periods have been calculated. These give a figure for the year ended 30th June, 1942, of 20.98 cwts., which corresponds with the figure I gave in reply to a Question by my hon. Friend the Member for Brixton (Mr. Colman) on 11th November. This is not, however, strictly comparable with the published figure for 1938, collected by the industry, and, as I have said, it was a figure thus comparable for which I was asked on the earlier occasion. Similarly, the figure for the average output of coal per man-shift worked at the coalface in August, 1942, was first given on the basis of the defective statistics collected - by the industry. I supplied the correct figure, however, which became available later, on 9th November, 1943, namely, 2.68 tons.
75.
asked the Minister of Fuel and Power the reduction in the output of saleable coal as between the year ended 30th June, 1942, and that ended 30th June, 1943, respectively; and how much of this reduction is attributable to the smaller number of coalface shifts worked and how much to the reduction in output per man-shift?
The output of saleable coal in the year ended 30th June, 1943, was some 3,850,000 tons below the figure for the previous year. By far the larger proportion is attributable to a reduction in output per man-shift at the coalface.
Is my right hon. and gallant Friend aware that a large number of man-shifts is not allowed to be worked because the railway companies do not provide the wagons to take the coal?
That has nothing to do with this Question, which is about the output per man-shift.
Per man-shift worked.
Disused Churches And Burial Grounds (Acquisition)
76.
asked the hon. and gallant Member for New Forest and Christchurch (Major Mills) as representing the Ecclesiastical Commissioners whether the Ecclesiastical Commissioners will, in consultation with the appropriate Ministries, devise a speedier procedure for the acquisition by local authorities for their reconstruction programmes of disused and unwanted churches and burial grounds?
I have been asked to reply. The Commissioners are aware of the difficulty to which the hon. Member refers, and are already in consultation with the appropriate Ministries on the subject.
Will care be taken not to destroy buildings of historical interest because they are no longer used for worship?