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Clause 103—(Procedure And Enforcement Of Orders Of Arbitration Tribunal)

Volume 436: debated on Wednesday 30 April 1947

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Amendment proposed: In page 105, line 12, to leave out "required."—[ Mr. Barnes.]

11.45 p.m.

On a point of Order. Has it not been generally recognised that the procedure of this House was that at least 40 should constitute a Lobby, and if the Opposition can- not get 40, is it not usual for hon. Members who object to have to rise in their places?

There is the right of dividing, and it is up to me to decide whether I think there are too few on one side. We must always have respect for the rights of minorities.

Further to that point of Order. Do I understand from what you have said that the criterion which the Chair applies in deciding whether to apply that procedure or not,

Division No. 174.]

AYES.

[11.50 p.m.

Adams, Richard (Balham)Evans, John (Ogmore)Kendall, W. D.
Adams, W. T. (Hammersmith, South)Evans, S. N. (Wednesbury)King, E. M.
Alexander, Rt. Hon. A. V.Ewart, R.Kirkwood, D
Allen, A. C. (Bosworth)Fairhurst, F.Lavers, S.
Allen, Scholefield (Crewe)Farthing, W. J.Lee, Miss J. (Cannock)
Anderson, F. (Whitehaven)Field, Captain W. J.Leonard, W.
Bacon, Miss AFletcher, E. C. M. (Islington, E.)Lewis, A. W. J. (Upton)
Baird, J.Follick, M.Lewis, J. (Bolton)
Barnes, Rt. Hon. A. J.Forman, J. C.Lewis, T. (Southampton)
Barton, C.Foster, W. (Wigan)Lindgren,. G. S.
Bartley, J. R.Freeman, Maj. J. (Watford)Lipson, D. L.
Bechervaise, A. E.Freeman, Peter (Newport)Logan, D. G.
Benson, G.Gaitskell, H. T. N.Longden, F
Berry, H.Gallacher, W.Lyne, A. W.
Bing, C. H. C.Ganley, Mrs. C. S.McGhee, H. G.
Blenkinsop, A.Gibbins, J.McKay, J. (Wallsend)
Blyton, W. R.Gibson, C. W.Mackay, R. W. C. (Hull, N.W.)
Boardman, HGilzean, A.McKinlay, A. S.
Bottomley, A. C.Goodrich, H. E.McLeavy, F.
Bowden, Flg.-Offr. H. W.Gordon-Walker, P. C.Macpherson, T. (Romford)
Braddock, Mrs. E. M. (L'pl, Exch'ge)Granville, E. (Eye)Mainwaring. W. H.
Braddock, T. (Mitcham)Greenwood, A. W. J. (Heywood)Mallalieu, J. P. W.
Brook, D. (Halifax)Grey, C. F.Manning, C. (Camberwell, N.).
Brooks, T. J. (Rothwell)Grierson, E.Manning, Mrs. L. (Epping)
Brown, George (Belper)Griffiths, D. (Rother Valley)Marquand, H. A.
Brown, T. J. (Ince)Griffiths, Rt. Hon. J (Llanelly)Mothers, G.
Burden, T. W.Griffiths, W. D. (Moss Side)Medland, H. M.
Burke, W. A.Guest, Dr. L. HadenMellish, R. J.
Butler, H. W. (Hackney, S.)Gunter, R. J.Messer, F.
Callaghan, JamesGuy, W. H.Mikardo, Ian
Carmichael, JamesHale, LeslieMillington, Wing-Comdr. E. R
Castle, Mrs. B. A.Hall, W. G.Mitchison, Major G. R.
Champion, A. J.Hamilton, Lieut.-Col. R.Moody, A. S.
Chetwynd, G. R.Hannan, W. (Maryhill)Morgan, Dr. H. B
Clitherow, Dr. R.Hardy, E. A.Morley, R.
Cocks, F. SHarrison, J.Morris, Lt.-Col. H. (Sheffield, C.)
Coldrick, W.Hastings, Dr. SomervilleMorris, P. (Swansea, W.)
Collindridge, F.Haworth, J.Moyle, A.
Collins, V. J.Henderson, A. (Kingswinford)Murray, J. D
Comyns, Dr. L.Hewitson, Capt. M.Nally, W.
Cook, T. F.Hobson, C. R.Neal, H. (Claycross)
Cooper, Wing-Comdr. G.Holman, P.Nicholls, H. R. (Stratford)
Corbel, Mrs. F. K (Camb'well, N.W)Holmes, H. E. (Hemsworth)Noel-Baker, Capt. F. E. (Brentford)
Corlett, Dr. J.House, G.Noel-Buxton, Lady
Daggar, G.Hoy, J.Oldfield, W. H
Davies, Edward (Burslem)Hubbard, T.Oliver, G. H.
Davies, Ernest (Enfield)Hudson, J. H. (Ealing, W.)Paling, Will T. (Dewsbury)
Davies, Harold (Leek)Hughes, Hector (Aberdeen, N.)Palmer, A. M. F.
Davies, Haydn (St. Pancras, S.W)Hughes, H. D. (Wolverhampton, W.]Pargiter, G. A
Deer, G.Hutchinson, H. L. (Rusholme)Parker, J.
de Freitas, GeoffreyHynd, H. (Hackney, C.)Parkin, B, T.
Delargy, Captain H. JHynd, J. B. (Attercliffe)Paton, Mrs. F. (Rushcliffe)
Diamond, J.Irving, W. J.Paton, J (Norwich)
Dobbie, W.Isaacs, Rt. Hon. G. APearson, A.
Dodds, N. N.Janner B.Peart, Capt. T. F
Driberg, T. E. N.Jay, D. P. T.Piratin, P.
Dugdale, J. (W. Bromwich)Jager, C. (Winchester)Plaits-Mills. J. F. F.
Durbin, E. F. M.Jeger, Dr. S. W. (St. Pancras, S.E.)Poole, Major Cecil (Lichfield)
Dye, SJones, D. T. (Hartlspools)Popplewell, E.
Ede, Rt. Hon. J. C.Jones, Elwyn (Plaistow)Porter, E. (Warrington)
Edwards, John (Blackburn)Jones, P. Asterley (Hitchin)Porter, C. (Leeds)
Edwards. W. J. (Whitechapel)Keenan, W.Pritt, D. N.

is merely one of numbers, or has the good sense of the situation anything to do with it?

It is a matter for the Chair. How the Chair may decide is not a matter for the House at all.

Question put, "That the Amendment be made."

The House divided: Ayes, 269; Noes, 34.

Proctor, W. TSparks, J. A.Warbey, W. N.
Pryde, D. J.Stamford, WWatkins, T. E.
Pursey, Cmdr HSteele, T.Watson, W. M
Randall, H. EStephen, C.Weitzman, D.
Ranger, J.Stewart, Capt. Michael (Fulham, E.)Wells, P. L. (Faversham)
Reid, T. (Swindon)Strauss, C. R. (Lambeth)Wells, W. T. (Walsall)
Richards, R.Stubbs, A. E.West, D. G.
Ridealgh, Mrs. MSwingler, S.White, H. (Derbyshire, N.E.)
Robens, ASylvester, G.Whiteley, Rt. Hon. W.
Roberts, Goronwy, (Caernarvonshire)Symonds, A. L.Wigg, Col. G. E.
Robertson, J. J. (Berwick)Taylor, H. B. (Mansfield)Wilcock, Group-Capt. C. A. B
Ross, William (Kilmarnock)Taylor, R. J. (Morpeth)Wilkes, L.
Royle, C.Taylor, Dr. S (Barnet)Wilkins, W. A.
Sargood, RThomas, D. E. (Aberdare)Willey, F. T. (Sunderland)
Scollan, T.Thomas, George (Gardiff)Williams, D. J. (Neath)
Scott-Elliot, W.Thorneycroft, Harry (Clayton)Williams, J. L. (Kelvingrove)
Shackleton, E. A. AThurtle, ErnestWilliams, W. R. (Heston)
Sharp, GranvilleTiffany, S.Williamson, T.
Shawcross, C. N. (Widnes)Timmons, JWillis, E.
Shurmer, P.Titterington, M. FWills, Mrs. E. A.
Silverman, J. (Erdington)Tolley, L.Wise, Major F. J
Silverman, S. S. (Nelson)Tomlinson, Rt. Hon. GWoodburn, A.
Simmons, C. J.Turner-Samuels, M.Wyatt, W.
Skeffington, A. M.Ungoed-Thomas, L.Yates, V. F.
Skinnard, F. W.Vernon, Maj. W. F
Smith, C. (Colchester)Wadsworth, G.

TELLERS FOR THE AYES

Smith, S. H. (Hull, S.W.)Walkden, E.Mr. J. Henderson and
Snow, Capt. J. WWalker, G. H.Mr. Daines.
Sorensen. R. WWallace, H. W. (Waltnamstow, E.)

NOES:

Aitken, Hon. MaxDuthie, W. SMarlowe, A. A. H
Astor, Hon. M.Fox, Sir G.Marsden, Capt. A.
Barlow, Sir J.Fraser, Maj. H. C. P. (Stone)Mellor, Sir J.
Beamish, Maj. T. V HFraser, Sir I. (Lonsdale)Morrison, Maj. J. G. (Salisbury)
Bromley-Davenport, Lt.-Col. WHaughton, S. G.Nicholson, C.
Bullock, Capt. MHenderson, John (Cathcart)Roberts, Maj. P. C. (Ecclesall)
Carson, E.Herbert, Sir A. P.Spence, H. R.
Cole, T. L.Holmes, Sir J. Stanley (Harwich)Teeling, William
Crosthwaite-Eyre, Col O EJennings, R.Vane, W. M. F.
Darling, Sir W. Y.Lambert, Hon. GWheatley, Colonel M. J.
Donner, Sqn.-Ldr. P. W.Langford-Holt, J.
Dower E L. G. (Caithness)Macpherson, Maj. N (Dumfries)

TELLERS FOR THE NOES:

Mr. Butcher and Mr. De la Bere.