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Volume 640: debated on Wednesday 10 May 1961

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Written Answers To Questions

Wednesday, 10th May, 1961


School Leavers, Gateshead


asked the Minister of Labour what percentage increase of young school-leavers he anticipates this year as compared with 12 months ago in the Gateshead and district employment area; and what action he has taken to ensure their employment.

In Gateshead County Borough about 30 per cent. The Youth Employment Service will do everything it can to help these school leavers find suitable jobs.

Grimsby Trawlermen (Strike)

asked the Minister of Labour what consideration he has given to intervening in the strike of trawler

Duration of unemploymentMen aged 18 and overBoys under 18Women aged 18 and overGirls under 18Total
2 weeks or less19431699303
Over 2 and not more than 8 weeks279566119415
Over 8 weeks917418251,108

Royal Navy

Malta Dockyard


asked the Civil Lord of the Admiralty what steps he is taking to remove the dissatisfaction felt by more than 100 senior established employees with upwards of 35 years' service who were lent by his Department to Messrs. Bailey (Malta) Ltd. for a period of two years and who are about to be discharged on abolition of office terms.

A warning was given when the loan scheme was first introduced that there would be some redundancy at the end of the two-year period. There were about 240 established industrial employees, but only about 90 of these have not yet been found alternative employment.We are, however, actively engaged, with the War Office and Air Ministry, in creating further vacancies by retiring

skippers, mates and engineers now in progress at Grimsby.

I have considered whether I can take any steps to have the industrial aspects of this matter settled by the industry's negotiating machinery and my officers are in touch with the parties with this purpose in mind.


asked the Minister of Labour if he will state the number of persons, male and female, and persons under 18 years of age, male and female, registered as wholly unemployed, together with length of unemployment, as at the latest convenient date, in the Gateshead and district employment area.

The following is the information required:unestablished employees over the age of 60 in the skilled labourer grades. We have good reason to suppose that we will be able to offer such employment to a large proportion of the remaining 90 established men.

Shipbuilding And Ship-Repairing

asked the Civil Lord of the Admiralty what was the total sum spent during 1958–59 and 1959–60 on Admiralty contract and repair work in shipyards and in Admiralty yards, respectively; and what was the percentage of the overall total spent in the same period in development areas and in Northern Ireland, respectively.

The total sum spent on Admiralty shipbuilding and ship-repairing, including work done on behalf of Commonwealth and other Governments, was £73 million in 1958–59 and £76 million in 1959–60; of this £28 million in 1958–59 and £29 million in 1959–60 was for work undertaken in Her Majesty's Dockyards. In 1958–59 approximately 5 per cent. of the overall total was spent in Northern Ireland and 48 per cent. in development areas (including Northern Ireland); the corresponding figures for 1959–60 are about 7 per cent. and 48 per cent.

British Army

Naafi Prices


asked the Secretary of State for War if he is aware that it is the present policy of the Navy, Army and Air Force Institutes to permit different prices to be charged for the same articles in different canteens, including, for example, one shilling for a bottle of sauce in Northern Ireland and one shilling and ninepence for a similar bottle in Berlin; if he is aware of the discontent this has caused to soldiers in Berlin; and if he will take steps to alter the policy so that higher prices are not charged in some canteens than in others.

A bottle of sauce which costs one shilling and sixpence in Northern Ireland costs one shilling and ninepence in Berlin. It is economically impracticable to sell goods overseas at British prices; but within each territory uniform prices are charged in all canteens. The Services accept this policy, and my right hon. Friend does not consider that it should be changed.

Ordnance Depot, Thatcham


asked the Secretary of State for War whether he has now reached a decision on the use of the Ordnance depot at Thatcham; and how many people will be employed there in the future.

I regret that I have nothing to add to the answer given to the hon. Gentleman by my right hon. Friend on 15th February.

Germany (Local Overseas Allowances)

asked the Secretary of State for War what steps he intends to take to adjust the local overseas allowances for Service men in Germany to offset the adverse effects of the revaluation of the Deutschmark.

I would refer the hon. Gentleman to my reply to Questions by the hon. Members for Billericay (Mr. Gardner), Woolwich, East (Mr. Mayhew) and Barking (Mr. Driberg) this afternoon.

Royal Palaces (Orderlies)

asked the Secretary of State for War to what extent soldiers are used as servants in any of the Royal Palaces; and whether he will issue an instruction, to all commanding officers not to permit such practices.

The answer to the first part of the Question is eleven. If suitable volunteers can be spared it is a long established custom to allow the Household Brigade to provide a few men for duties in the Royal Palaces, usually as orderlies, and I see no reason to stop this.

Royal Air Force

Hendon Aerodrome


asked the Secretary of State for Air when he proposes to release Hendon Aerodrome for use by civil aviation.

The use of Hendon for civil flying raises difficult problems, which I am discussing with my right hon. Friend the Minister of Aviation.

No 614 Squadron (Colours)


asked the Secretary of State for Air whether he will recommend the award of colours for the now disbanded 614 County of Glamorgan Royal Auxiliary Air Force Squadron in order that such colours shall be placed in the squadron's memorial chapel, in Llandaff Cathedral; and whether, in view of the fact that this was the only Welsh flying squadron, he will reconsider the reply he sent to the 614 Squadron Association, Cardiff.

Under Queen's Regulations, squadron standards are awarded to operational squadrons which have been in existence for 25 years. In fairness to other squadrons, I cannot recommend that an exception should be made in favour of No. 614 Squadron. However, I do sympathise with the desire of No. 614 Squadron Association to have an emblem of the Squadron in the memorial chapel in Llandaff Cathedral, and I am seeing whether there is any other way in which it can be met.

Flying Accidents (Deaths)

asked the Secretary of State for Air what was the number of Royal Air Force personnel killed in flying accidents during 1960; and in what percentage of these accidents the cause is known.

Seventeen flying accidents in 1960 caused the death of 44 members of the Royal Air Force. The causes of eight of these accidents have been established, the probable causes of four are suspected but cannot be confirmed and in a further four cases the causes are unknown. One accident is still being studied.

Civilians (Compensation)

asked the Secretary of State for Air what was the number of civilians in the United Kingdom killed and injured in 1960 as a result of crashes of Royal Air Force and United States Air Force aeroplanes; and what was the consequent amount of compensation which has been paid or is outstanding.

Two civilians were slightly injured. We have received no claims for compensation for these injuries.

Foreign Service (Security)


asked the Prime Minister what restrictions are placed upon the re-employment of Foreign Service officers on confidential work after they have been prisoners in Communist hands.

I have been asked to reply.Only three officials employed under the Foreign Office have been prisoners in Communist hands. Two of these are dead; the third is George Blake. There were no special restrictions on their reemployment but searching inquiries were made before any of them were reemployed.


asked the Prime Minister what disciplinary action he pro poses within the Foreign Service following the conviction of George Blake.

I have been asked to reply.I have nothing to add to the written reply my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister gave yesterday to the hon. Member for Greenwich (Mr. Marsh).


Oil Pollution


asked the Minister of Transport how many prosecutions against merchant ships unlawfully discharging oil sullage off beaches have been successful in the last two years.

During the two years 1959 and 1960 there were 58 successful prosecutions against merchant ships for discharging oil within United Kingdom territorial waters.


asked the Minister of Transport what steps he is now taking to reduce oil pollution on beaches.

My hon. and gallant Friend will be aware that a research programme to discover the best ways of dealing with oil pollution has already been put in hand by my noble Friend the Minister for Science. The results should help local authorities. We and the other countries which have accepted the International Convention for Prevention of the Pollution of the Sea by Oil do everything we can to enforce its provisions, but outside our territorial waters we have no control over the vessels of non-Convention countries. A Conference to revise the International Convention is to be held in the Spring of 1962, and we are considering with the interests concerned how the best possible results may be secured.

Docks And Harbours (Committee Of Inquiry)


asked the Minister of Transport whether he is in a position to make a further statement on the Docks and Harbours Committee of Inquiry he announced on 29th March last.


asked the Minister of Transport whether he will make a further announcement about the composition of the committee which he has set up to inquire into the major docks and harbours of Great Britain.

I have now completed my appointments to this Committee. Its composition will be as follows:

  • Lord Rochdale—Chairman.
  • Mr. J. Maurice Laing, Managing Director of Messrs. John Laing & Son Ltd.
  • Mr. I. W. Macdonald. Chartered Accountant and Chairman of the National Commercial Bank of Scotland.
  • Mr. E. G. Whitaker, Transport Adviser to Messrs. Unilever Ltd.
  • Mr. Richard Wills, Managing Director of Messrs. George Wills and Sons Ltd.
  • Sir Eric Millbourn, who has been Honorary Adviser on Shipping in Port to successive Ministers of Transport, will act as Adviser to the Committee.


Road Accidents


asked the Minister of Transport if he will have a study made of the total cost to the country of road accidents, as has been done in Belgium, Sweden and Western Germany.

Two studies of the total costs of road accidents have already been made in this country. A new investigation into the current cost of road accidents is being undertaken by the Road Research Laboratory.

Bath Road (Hungerford-Froxfield)


asked the Minister of Transport when he proposes to widen the Bath Road, A.4, between Hungerford and Froxfield so as to bring this section up to standard.

Gungate Bridge, Tamworth


asked the Minister of Transport whether he is aware of public disquiet at the prolonged process of carrying out alterations to the bridge at Gungate, Tamworth; when it is anticipated the work will be completed; how many shifts are being worked; how many workers there are on each shift; and what steps he will take to allay public anxiety concerning the effect of these alterations on the provision of prompt fire and ambulance services to areas served by the route concerned.

The alterations to the Gungate bridge are being carried out, with my approval, by the British Transport Commission as part of their electrification programme. They expect to complete the work next month. It is difficult with developments of this kind to avoid some inconvenience to traffic, but I am satisfied that the Commission, with the help of the local authority and the police, have taken all reasonable steps to reduce this to a minimum. From the information available to me it does not appear that prompt fire and ambulance services are being jeopardised.

Gloucester-South Wales Road (Penhow)


asked the Minister of Transport when it is propsed to lay a permanent surface on the Penhow stretch of the Gloucester to South Wales road.

Broomfield Road, Chadwell Heath (Car Parking)


asked the Minister of Transport whether he will take immediate action on the local petition forwarded to deal with the parking of oars in Broom- field Road, Chadwell Heath.

I understand that the local authority expects shortly to request me to control parking in Broomfield Road. Its request will receive careful consideration.

Improvement Scheme, Pudsey

59 and 60.

asked the Minister of Transport (1) when a start will be made on the installation of traffic signals at the junction of the Leeds-Bradford road and Galloway Lane, Pudsey;(2) if he has yet considered the Pudsey Corporation's scheme for the widening of the Leeds-Bradford road in the borough.

The local authorities have recently been told that we are prepared to consider for grant in the current financial year a scheme for a major improvement of the Leeds-Bradford road in Pudsey. In these new circumstances it is necessary to reconsider whether the immediate provision of a signal installation at Galloway Lane with a local widening at the junction is justified.

Newport Road, Cardiff (Accidents)


asked the Minister of Transport how many accidents have taken place at the roundabout at Roath Court, Newport Road, Cardiff, during the last three years; and if he will review the existing arrangements for directing traffic at this point.

During the three years 1958, 1959 and 1960, 21 accidents were reported. No one was injured in 12 of these accidents: three persons were seriously injured and six persons slightly injured in the other nine accidents. Responsibility for the traffic arrangements at this roundabout rests with the city council.

Level Crossing, Goole


asked the Minister of Transport what steps he is taking to improve the flow of road traffic approaching the level crossing in the Boothferry Road, Goole.

The British Transport Commission are discussing with Goole Corporation the possibility of using twin red flashing light road signals at this crossing so as to reduce delays to road traffic and at the same time ensure that the crossing is safe.

M1 (Accidents)

63 and 64.

asked the Minister of Transport (1) how many people have been killed as a consequence of motor accidents resulting from vehicles crossing the central reserve on the M.1 motorway;(2) what consideration he has given to the dangers of vehicles on the M.1 motorway crossing the central island reserve; and whether he will construct a central guard rail.

During the first year of operation of M.1, for which detailed accident statistics were kept, six people were killed in accidents in which vehicles crossed the central reserve.The benefit of a central guard rail lies in preventing collision with vehicles on the opposing carriageway, but there have, in fact, been very few such accidents. Experience on M.1 to date indicates that a central guard rail might well cause many more "damage only" accidents than it prevents but that it may cut down the number of personal injury accidents. This is borne out by United States experience.We are keeping this matter under review but we do not consider that there is at present justification for installing a central guard rail on the M.1.

Tottenham Court Road And Gower Street


asked the Minister of Transport whether he is satisfied with the operation of the new one-way street arrangements for Tottenham Court Road and Gower Street; and how much time is being saved to road users as a result of this innovation.

In its first ten days the scheme has worked well and journey times have been substantially reduced. When the scheme has settled down, the long-term benefits can be assessed more accurately. I should like to take this opportunity of thanking the local authorities for their help in introducing the scheme.



asked the Minister of Transport if he will inquire into the possibility and advisability of having a tunnel constructed under the centre of all new motorways along which could be installed the gas, water and electricity mains and oil pipes, so that they could be easily examined and repaired without disturbing the road surface frequently and causing much damage in addition to delaying traffic.

Public utility apparatus is not normally installed along the route of a motorway. If exceptionally this were allowed the apparatus would be installed in the verges, so no question of damage or disturbance to the road surface would arise. I do not think that the provision of a tunnel, which would be costly and have other serious disadvantages, would be justified.



asked the Minister of Transport what are his present estimates of the cost of the trunk road improvement scheme for Newcastle-under-Lyme and of the length of time the constructional work will take.

The cost of this scheme is now estimated at just over £481,000. The time taken will depend on how the constructional work is phased.


asked the Minister of Transport how much has been spent by his Department on the improvement of roads in Newcastle-under-Lyme in each of the last five years.

In 1956–57, £7,624; in 1957–58, £21,514; in 1958–59, £89,745; in 1959–60, £131,042 and in 1960–61, £149,678.

Small Schemes


asked the Minister of Transport if he will now publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT a list of his proposals for expenditure on classified roads by counties in respect of schemes costing less than £100,000 during each of the next three years.

This information is not available since many of the schemes in this category have not yet been selected. My Divisional Road Engineers will be making the selection in co-operation with the highway authorities concerned as soon as possible but some of the very small schemes for 1962–63 and 1963–64 are not likely to be chosen for some time.I would take this opportunity of correcting a factual error in my Answer to my hon. Friend's Question on 26th April. I said then that the figures in the table excluded the areas covered by the Conurbation Committees. As hon. Members may have realised from the notes to the table, they did in fact include some schemes in these areas.



asked the Minister of Transport why the major improvement and construction programme for classified roads in England and Wales, 1961–62, includes a smaller total of work in the county of Somerset than for any other county in England included in the list, with the exception of Wiltshire; and whether he will re-examine these proposals, with a view to including in the programme a greater number of schemes which urgently require to be carried out in Somerset.

My programmes of large classified road schemes is drawn up to reflect national priorities, concentrating on the relief of urban congestion and the improvement of routes vital to industry. This means that some counties are bound to get fewer large schemes than others. I am satisfied that on this basis Somerset has not been unfairly treated.

Pedestrian Casualties

asked the Minister of Transport how many pedestrians were killed on footpaths, killed on refuges, injured on footpaths and injured on refuges, respectively, during 1960 in the Metropolitan Police area as a result of motor vehicle accidents.

The following are the figures:

——On footpath or vergeOn refuge or centre stripTotal
Seriously injured15730187
Slightly injured972741,046


Rolling Stock, Signals And Lines


asked the Minister of Transport whether he will direct the British Transport Commission to supply, for publication together with the 1960 Annual Report, the following figures, namely, the age distribution of rolling stock, the total number of signals and the number which are colour-light and semaphore-arm type, and the classification of running lines.

No. I am not satisfied that a useful purpose would be served by the proposed direction.

Study Group


asked the Minister of Transport if he will make a statement on the work of the Study Group set up by him on 26th October, 1960, to study modernisation and rationalisation of the railways; and if he will ask for an interim report from them and arrange to publish it.

No. This Group is a part of the normal and continuing procedures for consultation between the Commission, myself and my advisers. There is no question of reports or their publication.

Regional Accounts


asked the Minister of Transport if he will explain the basis of regional accounts for the railways as set out and approved by him in paragraph 39 of Command Paper, No. 163, of 28th March; and what cost will be involved to the British Transport Commission in addition to the present regional accountancy analysis.

The British Transport Commission, on the general basis of a report from their professional advisers, are now working out detailed arrangements for producing regional trading accounts. No particular basis has been submitted to, or approved by, me. The Commission are not yet in a position to estimate any additional costs involved.

Traffic Assessment (Staff)

asked the Minister of Transport if he will give the number, designation and cost of the additional staff to deal with traffic assessments indicated in paragraph 20 of Command Paper No. 163, of 28th March; and what proportion and which designation of such staff have practical experience of railway operations.

The additional staff provided are an assistant secretary, a chief statistician, two statisticians, and six executive and clerical staff; their salaries total about £15,000 a year. None of them has practical experience of railway operations.

Telephone Service

Farnborough, Fleet And Crookham


asked the Postmaster-General whether he is aware of the considerable building development taking place in the Farnborough, Fleet and Crookham area of Hampshire; and whether he will make arrangements to ensure that telephones, particularly for business and professional men and invalids, etc., will be made available before 1964, which is the date given to such applicants.

I am aware of the development to which my hon. Friend refers. I expect that most of the 138 people waiting for telephones in the Fleet and Crookham areas will have them early next year. I am sorry, however, that it will not be possible to give service to many of the 46 people waiting for telephones in the Farnborough area until new cables are laid. Because my capital resources are limited these new cables may not be completed until 1964. Special consideration is given to business and professional men and people who are disabled or seriously ill, and I am sorry that it is sometimes not possible to meet their needs at once.

Post Office

Communications Satellites


asked the Postmaster- General what is the estimated cost of the joint programme between the United Kingdom and the United States of America in the planned launching of satellites for communication purposes.

The joint programme covers the testing of experimental communications satellites to be launched by the United States at their own cost. We shall provide a ground station in this country which is expected to cost £0·5 million. We shall operate this station for the duration of the tests which cannot, at this early stage, be predicted with any certainty. The total cost of the operation is, therefore, uncertain.

Wireless And Television

Television Sets (Research)


asked the Postmaster- General to what extent his Department have been kept informed of the General Electric Company's and other firms' research and experiments into the production of television sets capable of screening pictures both monochrome and in colour on 405 or 625 line definition.

Post Office engineers, through the medium of various technical committees, are in constant touch with developments in the radio industry in the field of television.

Colour Television

asked the Postmaster-General whether he has now completed his re-examination of the British Broadcasting Corporation's case for a limited colour service; and what conclusion he has reached.

On the 13th April, the B.B.C. made further representations to me for a limited service of colour television on the existing line standards. The B.B.C. suggested that a satisfactory colour system is now possible and that it would be wrong to delay the introduction of colour until decisions have been taken on line standards, although they agreed that the case for colour on present line standards is weakened if a decision on future line standards can be speeded up.The B.B.C. also felt that a limited regular service would give experience to industry which would help it to solve problems on possible 625 line colour sets which might ultimately enjoy an export market, and that meanwhile British manufacturers might be able to export components, some of which are common to both line systems.The question of colour television is, of course, within the terms of reference of the Pilkington Committee. I have, however, given further consideration to the proposal for a limited colour service. I agree that such a service could give British manufacturers experience in the development of components and colour receivers. On the other hand, the B.B.C.'s test transmissions in colour are continuing and these are helpful to manufacturers.There is, of course, at present no export market for colour sets of 405 lines and it is by no means clear that a decision at this stage in favour of colour on 405 lines would be likely to assist—indeed it might well prejudice—our future export opportunities. The colour tube, which is the vital component, is not yet in production in this country, though it no doubt will be.Meanwhile, a limited colour service here might lead to the sale, within two years, of 100,000 sets or more, and, pending the actual production of a British colour tube, these sets would require the importation of colour tubes from the U.S.A.: if colour television were now introduced reception could only be possible with American manufactured tubes and these, I understand, cost £65 each. The cost of a set itself might, I understand, be of the order of £200 when sets are produced in large quantities.Moreover, I think it would be unwise—and unfair to the public—to encourage the sale of colour sets on 405 lines in view of the possibility that a higher line definition may be recommended by the Pilkington Committee. The Television Advisory Committee, who reported to me in May, 1960, were firmly—and unanimously—of the view that colour should only be introduced when a decision had been taken on the ultimate line standard for monochrome transmissions and that any decision about colour should, therefore, follow—and not precede—a decision on line standards. I expect to have recommendations on line standards and other matters from the Pilkington Committee within twelve months and the way will then be open for decisions on colour television.Accordingly, I have today informed the Chairman of the B.B.C. that I am unable to accede to the B.B.C. request.

asked the Postmaster-General, in view of the recent successes by radio and television firms in producing a television receiver which is capable of screening pictures on 405 and 625 lines in colour or monochrome, if he will give further consideration to allowing the Pilkington Committee to issue an interim report on the question of lineage and colour.

It is open to the Pilkington Committee to make an interim report on any matter within its terms of reference if it so wishes. It is of course aware of the availability of prototype colour television receivers.

French Foreign Legion


asked the Lord Privy Seal to what extent the French Foreign Legion is under North Atlantic Treaty Organisation command.

I understand that the French Foreign Legion is in no way under North Atlantic Treaty Organisation command.

Foreign Service (Recruitment)

asked the Lord Privy Seal (1) on how many occasions the recruiting regulations with regard to both parents being of British nationality for established or unestablished Foreign Office and Foreign Service posts have been waived during the past 15 years; and whether these are still being rigorously applied;(2) how many established and un-established members of all the branches of the Foreign Office and Foreign Service Overseas were not British at birth; and how many took advantage of the British Nationality Act, 1948, to acquire British nationality;(3) how many established and un-established members of all the branches of the Foreign Office and Foreign Service Overseas have changed their name by deed-of-poll or otherwise.

The regulations governing recruitment for the Foreign Service, including those regarding nationality of the parents of applicants, continue to be rigorously applied. The information for which my hon. Friend asks in the above Questions is contained in the personal file kept for each member of the Foreign Service, both established and unestablished. It is not, however, maintained in statistical form. To obtain this for the purpose of answering these Questions would involve the examination of the contents of each individual personal file for all the members of the Foreign Service and would require the employment of additional confidential staff over a considerable period. As this information is not therefore easily available, I hope that my hon. Friend will not press for the compilation of these statistics.

Ministry Of Aviation

Blue Steel


asked the Minister of Aviation if he is satisfied with the progress of the Blue Steel 1* stand-off bomb: and if he will make a statement.

The weapon is Blue Steel: there is no Mark 1*. Development is proceeding normally and I would not propose to make further statements on the progress of this weapon.

Bac 111 Aircraft

asked the Minister of Aviation whether Her Majesty's Government intends to support the development of the B.A.C. 111 aircraft.

Yes. I have indicated to the company that, subject to the negotiation of suitable contract terms, the Government is prepared to contribute towards the launching costs of this promising new type of airliner.

National Finance

Private Property (Powers Of Entry)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer (1) if he will state the number of national and local government officials who are authorised to carry out inspections and investigations on private property, without the necessity of first obtaining a search warrant or other permit;(2) if he will state the number of Government Departments, including nationalised boards and departments of local government, which are authorised to enter private property, without the necessity of obtaining specific authority of the owner or tenant.

I am collecting the information relating to officials of Government Departments and will circulate it with the OFFICIAL REPORT; but I am not in a position to furnish information in regard to officials of Local Government or Nationalised Boards.



asked the Minister of Health what is the amount of money spent on capital account in the hospital service in each year since the inception of the Health Service; and what proportion this has been of current expenditure.

The figures are as follows:

YearExpenditure on Capital Account (including purchase of land)Capital Expenditure as a proportion of Expenditure on Revenue Account
£m.Per cent.
1948–49 (part year)5·54·5
1960–61 (Estimated)27·06·2
1961–62 (Estimated)34·07·6

Queen Elizabeth Hospital, Gateshead

asked the Minister of Health if he will make a statement on his recent visit to the Gateshead and District Hospital Group; and what consideration is being given to the building of a diagnostic centre at the Queen Elizabeth Hospital.

I expect to receive shortly from the Newcastle Regional Hospital Board a long term development programme which will include their proposals for the Gateshead hospitals.

New Hospitals

asked the Minister of Health if he will enumerate and specify the new hospitals that have been completed since the inception of the Health Service and state the number of beds each contains; and if he will also state the year of their completion in each case.

The ten new hospitals listed below have been partly completed and are in use, and provide a total of 1,294 beds.

Good Hope Hospital, Sutton Coldfield.1952162
Greaves Hall, Nr. South-port.1957220
Oakwood Park, Conway1957187
West Wales General Hospital, Glangwili.195896
Balderton Hospital, Nr. Newark.1959252
Princess Margaret Hospital, Swindon.195940
Llanfrechfa Grange, Newport.1959200
West Cumberland Hospital, Hensingham.1960137
New Teaching Hospital, Sheffield.1960(out-patients)
Singleton Park Hospital, Swansea.1960(out-patients)
In addition the Charles Clifford Dental Hospital, Sheffield, which provides for an intake of 40 students each year was completed in 1953 and much new work has been completed at other hospitals.

asked the Minister of Health what is the number of new hospitals which he expects to be completed during the next five years; and what is the total number of beds they will contain.

Ten, with approximately 4,000 beds. Five, more, with about 1,600 beds, are expected to be in use but not fully completed. Five new dental hospitals should also be completed.

Home Department

Fire Services (Pay And Conditions)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what reply he has sent to the letter he received from the General Secretary of the Fire Brigades Union asking for an independent inquiry into the pay and conditions of service of the fire services.

I would refer my hon. Friend to the Answer which I gave to a Question by the right hon. Member for Smethwick (Mr. Goron Walker) on 4th May.

Civil Defence Services (Strengths)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the authorised establishment of the Civil Defence services; what was the actual strength in 1955–56; and what is the strength today.

There is no authorised establishment for these services. All volunteers who satisfy the relevant conditions of eligibility can be accepted. The actual strengths in Great Britain at 31st December, 1955, 1956 and 1960 were as follows:

Civil Defence Corps371,670354,300359,660
Auxiliary Fire Ser vice21,29020,55819,825
National Hospital Service Reserve50,49552,19168,913
Industrial Civil Defence Service206,026209,539186,630



asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he will state the amount of total career earnings over the ages 30–65, as given for a number of professions in Table 9 of Command Paper No. 939, Report of the Royal Commission on Doctors' and Dentists' Remuneration, for certificated teachers, certificated teachers with a university degree or equivalent, certificated men teachers with a university degree or equivalent, certificated teachers with a good honours degree, and certificated men teachers with a good honours degree, respectively, calculated in each case on a basis as near as is practicable to that explained in paragraphs 121 and 122 of Command Paper No. 939.

The total career earnings from age 30 to age 65 of various categories of certificated teachers in schools are estimated, on the basis of current salaries, to be as follows:—

1.All certificated teachers (including 2 and 4 below).41,000
2.All certificated teachers with Ordinary university degree or equivalent.42,000
3.Men certificated teachers with Ordinary university degree or equivalent.44,000
4.All certificated teachers with first or second class university degree.55,000
5.Men certificated teachers with first or second class university degree.57,000
Housing deficit in 1959–60
AuthorityAverage standard rent, November, 1960Expenditure per house, 1959–60TotalPer head of population
*Dunbarton Co.77276152286,036558
Sutherland Co.141339216123,25511910
*Average rent increased to £19 6s. 3d. with effect from 15th May, 1961.
† Figures relate to the areas of 93 authorities, covering 89 per cent. of local authority houses and 91 per cent. of the population in Scotland.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he has yet considered the resolution about teachers' salaries, passed by a mass meeting of teachers called by the Educational Institute of Scotland, the Scottish Schoolmasters Association and the Scottish Secondary Teachers Association on 27th March, 1961, forwarded to him by their secretary, Mr. William A. Riddell; and what reply he has sent.

Yes. The reply sent on my behalf states that I shall bear the motion in mind in my consideration of the matters to which it refers.


asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will indicate, for those local authorities with the lowest average rents for council houses, the annual cost of providing the houses, the total local housing deficit, and what this represents per head of local population.

Details for the 10 authorities with the lowest rents, out of the 231 housing authorities in Scotland, are given below. Substantial deficits arise also in many other areas, approximate figures for the country as a whole being as shown in the last line of the table.

Trade And Commerce

Local Employment Act, 1960

asked the President of the Board of Trade how many applications for financial assistance have been made under Sections 2,

Number of ApplicationsSection 2Section 3Section 4

asked the President of the Board of Trade how many applications have been made for financial assistance under Section 7 of the Local Employment Act, 1960, in England, Wales and Scotland; and how many have been granted up to the latest convenient date.

3, and 4 of the Local Employment Act, 1960; and how many have been granted, in England, Wales and Scotland, respectively, to the latest convenient date.

The following is the information required, for the period to 31st March, 1961.exercise of the powers under Section 7 of the Act that the figures are as follows:

Number of applications made232329
Number of applications granted763