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Southern Rhodesia (Constitution) Bill

Volume 648: debated on Wednesday 8 November 1961

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Question again proposed,That the words proposed to be left out stand part of the Question.

I was just saying that a number of hon. Members have referred at some length to the opposition of the National Democratic Party and I thought that I would say a word about this.

It is true, of course, that the N.D.P., which at first supported the new Constitution, afterwards repudiated it. It is also true that it is probably the largest all-African party in Southern Rhodesia. But it should not be assumed that the views which it expresses are necessarily those of the majority of the African inhabitants of Southern Rhodesia.

Large sections of the population in the tribal areas are not attached to any political party. The two multi-racial parties—the United Federal Party and the Central African Party—both enjoy appreciable African support. It was significant at the last Congress of the United Federal Party in Southern Rhodesia that nearly one-third of the delegates were African, and there is no doubt that the very liberal attitude of the United Federal Party is attracting increasing African support into its ranks.

Sir Edgar Whitehead the other day published figures which are extremely remarkable and which showed that the membership of his party in Harari had risen from 40 to 500 since the announcement of the new Constitution last February. That is particularly striking for the reason that Harari, which is a purely African town, was one of the largest centres of opposition to the Government only a year ago.

I am not seeking to minimise the importance of the N.D.P. I have always listened to its views with great sympathy and I am anxious to keep in touch with it. The right hon. Gentleman the Member for Middlesbrough, East referred to the fact that my Under-Secretary received a deputation from that party on a certain occasion. That was because I was out of the country. Had I been here I would have received them myself.

I believe, however, that we should not minimise the importance of the other parties in Southern Rhodesia which are making an appeal to both races. The right hon. Member for Middlesbrough, East expressed regret at the decision of the N.D.P. to boycott the elections. I agree with him, and I sincerely hope that between now and the elections all parties will decide to put up candidates, which is surely in the best interests of Southern Rhodesia and its future development. The political parties, whatever their differences, should seek to achieve their aims through democratic political channels.

This is the aim and purpose of the new Constitution. It has been framed in that spirit and will be implemented in that way, and I therefore appeal to all citizens of Southern Rhodesia of all races to accept the new Constitution in

Division No. 4.]

AYES

[10.15 p.m.

Agnew, Sir PeterGrant, Rt. Hon. WilliamNugent, Sir Richard
Aitken, W. T.Grant-Ferris, Wg. Cdr. R.Oakshott, Sir Hendrie
Allason, JamesGreen, AlanOrr-Ewing, C. Ian
Atkins, HumphreyGresham Cooke, R.Osborn, John (Hallam)
Barlow, Sir JohnGrimston, Sir RobertOsborne, Sir Cyril (Louth)
Batsford, BrianGurden, HaroldPage, Graham (Crosby)
Bell, RonaldHall, John (Wycombe)Pannell, Norman (Kirkdale)
Bennett, F. M. (Torquay)Hamilton, Michael (Wellingborough)Pearson, Frank (Ciltheroe)
Bidgood, John C.Harris, Reader (Heston)Peel, John
Birch, Rt. Hon. NigelHarrison, Col. Sir Harwood (Eye)Percival, Ian
Bishop, F. P.Harvey, Sir Arthur Vere (Macelesf'd)Pickthorn, Sir Kenneth
Black, Sir CyrilHarvey, John (Walthamstow, E.)Pilkington, Sir Richard
Bossom, CliveHastings, StephenPitman, Sir James
Bourne-Arton, A.Heald, Rt. Hon. Sir LionelPott, Percivall
Box, DonaldHenderson, John (Cathcart)Powell, Rt. Hon. J. Enoch
Boyd-Carpenter, Rt. Hon. JohnHendry, ForbesPrior, J. M. L.
Boyle, Sir EdwardHicks Beach, Maj. W.Prior-Palmer, Brig. Sir Otho
Braine, BernardHiley, JosephPym, Francis
Bromley-Davenport, Lt.-Col. Sir WalterHill, J. E. B. (S. Norfolk)Quennell, Miss J. M.
Brown, Alan (Tottenham)Hobson, JohnRamsden, James
Browne, Percy (Torrington)Hocking, Philip N.Rawlinson, Peter
Bryan, PaulHolland, PhilipRedmayne, Rt. Hon. Martin
Buck, AntonyHollingworth, JohnRees, Hugh
Bullard, DenysHope, Rt. Hon. Lord JohnRenton, David
Bullus, Wing Commander EricHopkins, AlanRidley, Hon. Nicholas
Butler, Rt. Hn. R.A. (Saffron Walden)Hornsby-Smith, Rt. Hon. Dame P.Ridsdale, Julian
Campbell, Sir David (Belfast, S.)Howard, Hon. G. R. (St. Ives)Rippon, Geoffrey
Campbell, Cordon (Moray & Nairn)Hughes-Young, MichaelRobinson, Sir Roland (Blackpool, S.)
Carr, Compton (Barons Court)Hulbert, Sir NormanRoots, William
Carr, Robert (Mitcham)Hutchison, Michael ClarkRussell, Ronald
Channon, H. P. C.James, DavidSt. Clair, M.
Chataway, ChristopherJohnson, Eric (Blackley)Sandys, Rt. Hon. Duncan
Chichester-Clark, R.Johnson Smith, GeoffreyScott-Hopkins, James
Clark, Henry (Antrim, N.)Kerans, Cdr. J. S.Sharples, Richard
Clark, William (Nottingham, S.)Kerr, Sir HamiltonShaw, M.
Cleaver, LeonardKershaw, AnthonyShepherd, William
Cooper, A. E.Kimball, MarcusSimon, Rt. Hon. Sir Jocelyn
Cooper-Key, Sir NeillKitson, TimothySkeet, T. H. H.
Cordeaux, Lt.-Col. J. K.Lambton, ViscountSmith, Dudley (Br'ntf'd & Chiswick)
Costain, A. P.Langford-Holt, J,Smyth, Brig. Sir John (Norwood)
Coulson, J. M.Leather, E. H. C.Spearman, Sir Alexander
Courtney, cdr. AnthonyLeavey, J, A.Steward, Harold (Stockport, S.)
Craddock, Sir BeresfordLegge-Bourke, Sir HarryStoddart-Scott, Col. Sir Malcolm
Critchley, JulianLewis, Kenneth (Rutland)Storey, Sir Samuel
Crosthwaite-Eyre, Col. Sir OliverLindsay, MartinStudholme, Sir Henry
Crowder, F. P.Linstead, Sir HughSummers, Sir Spencer (Aylesbury)
Cunningham, KnoxLitchfield, Capt. JohnTalbot, John E.
Currie, G. B. H.Lloyd, Rt. Hn. Geoffrey (Sut'nC'dfield)Tapsell, Peter
Digby, Simon WingfieldLongden, GilbertTaylor, W. J. (Bradford, N.)
Donaldson, Cmdr. C. E. M.Loveys, Walter H.Temple, John M.
Doughty, CharlesLucas, Sir JocelynThatcher, Mrs. Margaret
Drayson, G. B.Lucas-Tooth, Sir HughThomas, Leslie (Canterbury)
du Cann, EdwardMacArthur, IanThompson, Kenneth (Walton)
Duncan, Sir JamesMcLaughlin, Mrs. PatriciaThompson, Richard (Croydon, S.)
Eden, JohnMacleod, Rt. Hn. Iain (Enfield, W.)Thornton-Kemsley, Sir Colin
Elliot, Capt. Walter (Carshalton)McMaster, Stanley R.Tiley, Arthur (Bradford, W.)
Elliott, R.W. (Nwcstle-upon-Tyne, N.)Macmillan, Rt. Hn. Harold (Bromley)Turner, Colin
Emmet, Hon. Mrs. EvelynMacpherson, Niall (Dumfries)van Straubenzee, W. R.
Errington, Sir EricMaddan, MartinVane, W. M. F.
Farr, JohnManningham-Buller, Rt. Hn. Sir R.Vaughan-Morgan, Rt. Hon. Sir John
Fell, AnthonyMarshall, DouglasVickens, Miss Joan
Finlay, GraemeMarten, NeilVosper, Rt. Hon. Dennis
Fisher, NigelMatthews, Gordon (Meriden)Wakefield, Edward (Derbyshire, W.)
Fletcher-Cooke, CharlesMawby, Raywalder, David
Fraser, Hn. Hugh (Stafford & Stone)Maxwell-Hyslop, R. J.Walker, Peter
Fraser, Ian (Plymouth, Sutton)Maydon, Lt-Cmdr. S. L. C.Walker-Smith, Rt. Hon. Sir Derek
Gammans, LadyMills, StratumWall, Patrick
Gibson-Watt, DavidMontgomery, FergusWebster, David
Glover, Sir DouglasMore, Jasper (Ludlow)Wells, John (Maidstone)
Goodhart, PhilipMorrison, JohnWilliams, Paul (Sunderland, S.)
Goodhew, viotorMott-Radclyffe, Sir CharlesWills, Sir Gerald (Bridgwater)

this spirit and to make the most of the widening opportunities for progress and co-operation which it opens up for them.

Question put:

The House divided: Ayes 221, Noes 156.

Wilson, Geoffrey (Truro)Woodnutt, Mark
Wise, A. R.Woollam, JohnTELLERS FOR THE AYES:
Wolrige-Gordon, PatrickWorsley, MarcusMr. Whitelaw and Mr. Noble
Woodhouse, C. M.Yates, William (The Wrekin)

NOES

Ainsley, WilliamHerbison, Miss MargaretPargiter, G. A.
Allaun, Frank (Salford, E.)Hill, J. (Midlothian)Parker, John
Allen, Scholefield (Crewe)Hilton, A. V.Pavitt, Laurence
Awbery, StanHolman, PercyPeart, Frederick
Bacon, Miss AliceHoughton, DouglasPentland, Norman
Baird, JohnHowell, Charles A. (Perry Barr)Plummer, Sir Leslie
Bence, CyrilHoy, James H.Prentice, R. E.
Benson, Sir GeorgeHughes, Emrys (S. Ayrshire)Price, J. T. (Westhoughton)
Blackburn, F.Hughes, Hector (Aberdeen, N.)Probert, Arthur
Blyton, WilliamHunter, A. E.Pursey, Cmdr. Harry
Bowden, Herbert W. (Leics, S.W.)Hynd, H. (Accrington)Randall, Harry
Bowen, Roderic (Cardigan)Janner, Sir BarnettRankin, John
Bowles, FrankJay, Rt. Hon, DouglasRedhead, E. C.
Boyden, JamesJeger, GeorgeReid, William
Brockway, A. FennerJohnson, Carol (Lewisham, S.)Roberts, Albert (Normanton)
Butter, Mrs. Joyce (Wood Green)Jones, Rt. Hn. A. Creech(Wakefield)Robertson, John (Paisley)
Castle, Mrs. BarbaraJones, Dan (Burnley)Robinson, Kenneth (St. Pancras, N.)
Chetwynd, GeorgeJones, Elwyn (West Ham, S.)Rogers, G. H. R. (Kensington, N.)
Cliffe, MichaelJones, Jack (Rotherham)Ross, William
Corbet, Mrs. FredaKelley, RichardSilverman, Julius (Aston)
Craddock, George (Bradford, S.)Kenyon, CliffordSilverman, Sydney (Netson)
Crossman, R. H. S.Key, Rt. Hon. C. W.Slater, Mrs. Harriet (Stoke, N.)
Davies, Harold (Leek)King, Dr. HoraceSlater, Joseph (Sedgefield)
Delargy, HughLawson, GeorgeSmall, William
Diamond, JohnLee, Miss Jennie (Cannock)Smith, Ellis (Stoke, S.)
Donnelly, DesmondLewis, Arthur (West Ham, N,)Sorensen, R. W.
Driberg, TomLipton, MarcusSoskice, Rt. Hon, Sir Frank
Ede, Rt. Hon. C.Mabon, Dr. j. DicksonSpriggs, Leslie
Edelman, MauriceMcCann, JohnSteele, Thomas
Edwards, Robert (Bilston)MacColl, JamesStewart, Michael (Fulham)
Edwards, Waiter (Stepney)McKay, John (Wallsend)Stonehouse, John
Evans, AlbertMackie, John (Enfield, East)Stones, William
Finch, HaroldMacPherson, Malcolm (Stirling)Taylor, John (West Lothian)
Fitch, AlanMallalieu, E. L. (Brigg)Thompson, Dr. Alan (Dunfermline)
Foot, Miehael (Ebbw Vale)Mallalieu, J.P.W. (Huddersfield, E.)Thornton, Ernest
Fraser, Thomas (Hamilton)Mapp, CharlesUngoed-Thomas, Sir Lynn
Gaitskell, Rt. Hon. HughMarquand, Rt. Hon. H, A,Wade, Donald
Galpern, Sir MyerMarsh, RichardWainwright, Edwin
Ginsburg, DavidMendelson, J.J.Warbey, William
Gordon Walker, Rt. Hon. P. C.Millan, BruceWeitzman, David
Gourlay, HarryMilne, Edward J.White, Mrs. Eirene
Greenwood, AnthonyMitchison, G. R.Whitlock, William
Grey, CharlesMoody, A. S.Willey, Frederick
Griffiths, Rt. Hon. James (Llanelly)Morris, JohnWilliams, W. R. (Openshaw)
Griffiths, w. (Exchange)Moyle, ArthurWilliams, W. T. (Warrington)
Grimond, J.Mulley, FrederickWillis, E. G. (Edinburgh, E.)
Hale, Leslie (Oldham, W.)Noel-Baker, Francis (Swindon)Winterbottom, R. E.
Hall, Rt. Hn. Glenvil (Colne Valley)Oliver, G. H.Woodbum, Rt. Hon. A.
Hamilton, William (West Fife)Oram, A. E.Woof, Robert
Hart, Mrs. JudithOswald, ThomasYates, Victor (Ladywood)
Hayman, F. H,Owen, Will
Healey, DenisPadley, W. E.TELLERS FOR THE NOES:
Henderson, Rt. Hn. Arthur (Rwly Regis)Pannell, Charles (Leeds, w.)Mr. Irving and Mr. Short.

Bill read a Second time.

Bill committed to a Committee of the whole House.—[ Mr. E. Wakefield.]

Committee Tomorrow.