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Business Of The House

Volume 651: debated on Tuesday 12 December 1961

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Question put,

That the Proceedings on the Commonwealth Immigrants Bill be exempted, at this day's Sitting, from the provisions of Standing Order No. 1 (Sittings of the House).—[Mr. R. A. Butler.]

The House proceeded to a Division.

( seated and covered)

On a point of order. I want to draw attention to this fact, which I think cannot he controverted. According to the Order Paper, the Motion to suspend the rule had to be taken at ten o'clock. It is quite clear to quite a number of us who were watching the time very carefully that when ten o'clock came that Motion was not, in fact, put. In these circumstances, I beg respectfully to suggest that the time had passed when such a Motion could be put, because it should have been put at ten o'clock and not at one minute past ten o'clock. If the Government spokesman missed the boat, that is not the fault of the Opposition.

There is no question of the Government spokesman missing the boat. The onus is on the Chairman to vacate the Chair of the Committee and proceed to the Chair of the House at ten o'clock. I believe that I did so.

The House divided: Ayes 277, Noes 194.

Brooman-White, R.Hill, J. E. B. (S. Norfolk)Pilkington, Sir Richard
Brown, Alan (Tottenham)Hirst, GeoffreyPitman, Sir James
Browne, Percy (Torrington)Hobson, JohnPitt, Miss Edith
Bryan, PaulHocking, Philip N.Pott, Percivall
Buck, AntonyHolland, PhilipPowell, Rt. Hon. J. Enoch
Bullard, DenysHollingworth, JohnPrice, David (Eastleigh)
Bullus, Wing Commander EricHope, Rt. Hon. Lord JohnPrior, J. M. L.
Burden, F. A.Hopkins, AlanProfumo, Rt. Hon. John
Butcher, Sir HerbertHornby, R. P.Proudfoot, Wilfred
Butler, Rt. Hn. R. A. (Saffron Walden)Howard, Hon. G. R. (St. Ives)Pym, Francis
Cambell, Cordon (Moray & Nairn)Hughes Hallett, Vice-Admiral JohnQuennelt, Miss J. M.
Carr, Compton (Barons Court)Hughes-Young, MichaelRamsden, James
Cary, Sir RobertHulbert, Sir NormanRawlinson, Peter
Channon, H. P. G.Hurd, Sir AnthonyRedmayne, Rt. Hon. Martin
Chataway, ChristopherHutchison, Michael ClarkRees, Hugh
Chichester-Clark, R.Irving, Bryant Godman (Rye)Renton, David
Clark, William (Nottingham, S.)Jennings, J. C.Ridley, Hon. Nicholas
Clarke, Brig. Terence (Portsmth, W.)Johnson, Eric (Blackley)Ridsdale, Julian
Cleaver, LeonardJohnson Smith, GeoffreyRippon, Geoffrey
Cooke, RobertJones, Rt. Hn. Aubrey (Hall Green)Roberts, Sir Peter (Heeley)
Cooper-Key, Sir NeillJoseph, Sir KeithRobson Brown, Sir William
Cordeaux, Lt.-Col. J. K.Kaberry, Sir DonaldRoots, William
Corfield, F. V.Kerans, Cdr. J. S.Ropner, Col. Sir Leonard
Costain, A. P.Kerr, Sir HamiltonRoyle, Anthony (Richmond, Surrey)
Coulson, MichaelKimball, MarcusRussell, Ronald
Courtney, Cdr. AnthonyKitson, TimothySt. Clair, M.
Craddock, Sir BeresfordLagden, GodfreyScott-Hopkins, James
Critchley, JulianLancaster, Col. C G.Seymour, Leslie
Crosthwaite-Eyre, Col. Sir OliverLangford-Holt, J.Sharples, Richard
Cunningham, KnoxLeather, E. H. C.Shaw, M.
Curran, CharlesLeburn. GilmourShepherd, William
Dalkeith, Earl ofLegge-Bourke, Sir HarrySimon, Rt. Hon, Sir Jocelyn
Dance, JamesLewis, Kenneth (Rutland)Skeet, T. H. H.
Deedes, W. F.Lindsay, MartinSmith, Dudley (Br'ntf'd & Chiswick)
de Ferranti, BasilLine'ead, Sir HughSoames, Rt. Hon. Christopher
Donaldson, Cmdr. C. E. M.Lichfield, Capt. JohnSpearman, Sir Alexander
Doughty, CharlesLongden, GilbertSpeir, Rupert
Drayson, G. B.Loveys, Walker H.Stanley, Hon. Richard
du Cann, EdwardLow, Rt. Hon. Sir TobyStevens, Geoffrey
Duncan, Sir JamesLucas-Tooth, Sir HughStodart, J. A.
Eccles, Rt. Hon. Sir DavidMcAdden, StephenStoddart-Scott, Col. Sir Malcolm
Elliot, Capt. Walter (Carshalton)MacArthur, IanStudholme, Sir Henry
Elliott, R. W. (Nwcstle-upon-Tyne, N.)McLaren. MartinTalbot, John E.
Emmet, Hon. Mrs. EvelynMaclay, Rt. Hon. JohnTapsell, Peter
Errington, Sir EricMaclean, S-Fitzroy (Bute &N. Ayrs.)Taylor, Sir Charles (Eastbourne)
Erroll, Rt. Hon. F. J.McLean, Neil (Inverness)Taylor, Edwin (Bolton, E.)
Farey-Jones, F. W.MacLeod, John (Ross & Cromarty)Taylor, Frank (M'ch'st'r, Moss Side)
Farr, JohnMcMaster, Stanley R.Taylor, W. J. (Bradford, N.)
Fell, AnthonyMadden, MartinTemple, John M.
Finlay, GraemeMaginiss, John E.Thatcher, Mrs. Margaret
Fisher, NigelManningham-Buller, Rt. Hon. Sir RThomas, Leslie (Canterbury)
Fletcher-Cooke, CharlesMarples, Rt. Hon. ErnestThomas, Peter (Conway)
Forrest, GeorgeMarshall, DouglasThompson, Kenneth (Walton)
Fraser, Hn. Hugh (Stafford & Stone)Marten, NeilThompson, Richard (Croydon, S.)
Fraser, Ian (Plymouth, Sutton)Matthews, Gordon (Meriden)Thorneycroft, Rt. Hon. Peter
Freeth, DenzilMaudling, Rt. Hon. ReginaldThornton-Kemsley, Sir Colin
Galbraith, Hon. T. G. D.Mawby, RayTiley, Arthur (Bradford, W.)
George, J. C. (Pollok)Maxwell-Hyslop, R. J.Tilney, John (Wavertree)
Gibson-watt, DavidMaydon, Lt.-Cmdr. S. L. C.Turner, Colin
Gilmour, Sir JohnMills, StrattonTurton, Rt. Hon. R. H.
Glover, Sir DouglasMontgomery, Fergusvan Straubenzee, W. R.
Goodhart, PhilipMore, Jasper (Ludlow)Vane, W. M. F.
Goodhew, VictorMorgan, WilliamVaughan-Morgan, Rt. Hon. Sir John
Gower, RaymondMorrison. JohnVickers, Miss Joan
Grant, Rt. Hon. WilliamMott-Radclyffe, Sir CharlesWakefield, Edward (Derbyshire, W.)
Grant-Ferris, Wg. Cdr. R.Nabarro, GeraldWalder, David
Green, AlanNeave, AireyWalker, Peter
Gresham Cooke, R.Nicholls, Sir HarmarWebster, David
Grimston, Sir RobertNicholson, Sir GodfreyWells, John (Maidstone)
Gurden, HaroldNoble, MichaelWilliams, Dudley (Exeter)
Hall, John (Wycombe)Oakshott, Sir HendrleWills, Sir Gerald (Bridgwater)
Hare, Rt. Hon. JohnOrr, Capt. L. P. S.Wilson, Geoffrey (Truro)
Harris, Frederic (Croydon, N.W.)Orr-Ewing, C. IanWise, A. R.
Harris, Reader (Heston)Osborn, John (Hallam)Wolrige-Gordon, Patrick
Harrison, Brian (Maldon)Osborne, Sir Cyril (Louth)Wood, Rt. Hon. Richard
Harrison, Col. Sir Harwood (Eye)Page, John (Harrow, West)Woodhouse, C. M
Harvey, John (Walthamstow, E.)Page, Graham (Crosby)Woodnutt, Mark
Harvie Anderson, MissPannell, Norman (Kirkdale)Woollam, John
Hastings, StephenPartridge, E.Worsley, Marcus
Hay, JohnPearson, Frank (Clitheroe)
Heald, Rt. Hon. Sir LionelPercival, IanTELLERS FOR THE AYES:
Hiley, JosephPeyton, JohnMr. Whitelaw and
Hill, Dr. Rt. Hon. Charles (Luton)Pickthorn, Sir KennethMr. Michael Hamilton.
Hill, Mrs. Eveline (Wytnenshawe)Pike, Miss Mervyn

NOES

Ainsley, WilliamHamilton, William (West Fife)Pavitt, Laurence
Allaun, Frank (Salford, E.)Hannan, WilliamPearson, Arthur (Pontypridd)
Allen, Scholefield (Crewe)Hart, Mrs. JudithPeart, Frederick
Awbery, SlanHayman, F. H.Pentland, Norman
Baird, JohnHerbison, Miss MargaretPlummer, Sir Leslie
Baxter, William (Stirlingshire, W.)Hill, J. (Midlothian)Popplewell, Ernest
Bence, CyrilHilton, A. V.Prentice, R. E.
Bennett, J. (Glasgow, Bridgeton)Holt, ArthurPrice, J. T. (Westhoughton)
Benson, Sir GeorgeHoughton, DouglasProbert, Arthur
Blackburn, F.Howell, Denis (Small Heath)Pursey, Cmdr. Harry
Blyton, WilliamHoy, James H.Randall, Harry
Boardman, H.Hughes, cledwyn (Anglesey)Rankin, John
Bowden, Herbert W. (Leics, S.W.)Hughes, Emrys (S. Ayrshire)Redhead, E. C.
Bowles, FrankHughes, Hector (Aberdeen, N.)Rhodes, H.
Boyden, JamesHunter, A. E.Roberts, Albert (Normanton)
Braddock, Mrs. E. M.Hynd, John (Attercliffe)Roberts, Coronwy (Caernarvon)
Brockway, A. FermerIrvine, A. J. (Edge Hill)Robertson, John (Paisley)
Broughton, Dr. A. D. D.Janner, Sir BarnettRobinson, Kenneth (St. Pancras, N.)
Brown, Rt. Hon. George (Belper)Jay, Rt. Hon. DouglasRoss, William
Butler, Herbert (Hackney, C.)Jeger, GeorgeShort, Edward
Chapman, DonaldJenkins, Roy (Stechford)Silverman, Julius (Aston)
Cliffe, MichaelJohnson, Carol (Lewisham, S.)Silverman, Sydney (Nelson)
Collick, PercyJones, Dan (Burnley)Skeffington, Arthur
Craddook, George (Bradford, S.)Jones, Jack (Rotherham)Slater, Mrs. Harriet (Stoke, N.)
Cronin, JohnJones, J. Idwal (Wrexham)Slater, Joseph (Sedgefield)
Crosland, AnthonyJones, T. W. (Merioneth)Snow, Julian
Cullen, Mrs. AliceKelley, RichardSorensen, R. W.
Darling, GeorgeKenyon, CliffordSoskice, Rt. Hon. Sir Frank
Davies, G. Elfed (Rhondda, E.)Key, Rt. Hon. C. W.Spriggs, Leslie
Davies, Harold (Leek)Lawson, GeorgeSteele, Thomas
Davies, Ifor (Gower)Ledger, RonStewart, Michael (Fulham)
Davies, S. O. (Merthyr)Lee, Miss Jennie (Cannock)Storehouse, John
Deer, GeorgeLewis, Arthur (west Ham, N.)Stones, William
Delargy, HughLipton, MarcusStrachey, Rt. Hon. John
Dempsey, JamesLogan, DavidSwain, Thomas
Diamond, JohnLoughlin, CharlesSwingler, Stephen
Dodds, NormanMabon, Dr. J. DicksonSymonds, J. B.
Donnelly, DesmondMcCann, JohnTaylor, Bernard (Mansfield)
Driberg, TomMacColl, JamesTaylor, John (west Lothian)
Dugdale, Rt. Hon. JohnMcInnes, JamesThomas, Iorwerth (Rhondda, W.)
Ede, Rt. Hon. C.McKay, John (Wallsend)Thompson, Dr. Alan (Dunfermline)
Edelman, MauriceMackie, John (Enfield, East)Thomson, G. M. (Dundee, E.)
Edwards, Rt. Hon. Ness (Caerphilly)McLeavy, FrankThornton, Ernest
Edwards, Robert (Bilston)MacMilan, Malcolm (Western Isles)Timmons, John
Evans, AlbertMacPherson, Malcolm (Stirling)Wade, Donald
Fernyhough, E.Mallalieu, E. L. (Brigg)Wainwright, Edwin
Finch, HaroldMallalieu, J.P.W. (Huddersfield, E.)Warbey, William
Fitch, AlanManuel, A. C.Watkins, Tudor
Fletcher, EricMapp, CharlesWeitzman, David
Foot, Dingle (Ipswich)Mason, RoyWhite, Mrs. Eirene
Foot, Michael (Ebbw Vale)Mellish, R. J.Wilcock, Group Capt. C. A. B.
Forman, J. C.Mendelson, J. J.Wilkins, W. A.
Gaitskell, Rt. Hon. HughMilne, Edward J.Willey, Frederick
Galpern, Sir MyerMitchison, G. R.Williams, D. J. (Neath)
George, Lady Megan Lloyd (Crmrthn)Morris, JohnWilliams, LI. (Abertillery)
Ginsburg, DavidMoyle, ArthurWilliams, W. T. (Warrington)
Gooch, E. G.Mulley, FrederickWillis, E. G. (Edinburgh, E.)
Gordon walker, Rt. Hon. P. C.Neal, HaroldWinterbottom, R. E.
Greenwood, AnthonyNoel-Baker, Francis (Swindon)Woodburn, Rt. Hon. A.
Grey, CharlesNoel-Baker, Rt. Hn. Philip (Derby, S.)Woof, Robert
Griffiths, David (Rother Valley)Oram, A. E.Wyatt, Woodrow
Griffiths, Rt. Hon. James (Llanelly)Oswald, ThomasYates, Victor (Ladywood)
Griffiths, W. (Exchange)Owen, Will
Grimond J.Padley, W. E.TELLERS FOR THE NOES:
Gunter, RayPannell, Charles (Leeds, W.)Mr. Charles A. Howell and
Hall, Rt. Hn. Glenvil (Colne Valley)Parker, JohnMr. Sydney Irving.