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Volume 720: debated on Friday 19 November 1965

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Written Answers To Questions

Friday, 19th November, 1965

Ministry Of Aviation

British European Airways (Deputy Chairman)

asked the Minister of Aviation if he will state his reasons for appointing Mr. Kenneth Keith as part-time Deputy Chairman of British European Airways.

Because I think Mr. Keith's outstanding business abilities make him a most suitable replacement for Sir John Keeling, who retired as Deputy Chairman of B.E.A. in September.

Airports, Northern Ireland (Strikes)

asked the Minister of Aviation what steps he is taking to maintain air services between Great Britain and Northern Ireland and prevent the disruption of such services by one-day strikes; if he will consider the use in such circumstances of other airfields in Northern Ireland; and if he will make a statement about the progress that is being made to settle the wages dispute at Aldergrove civil airport.

I deeply regret the serious inconvenience caused to the public by the unofficial strike on 12th November at Aldergrove and some other Ministry Airports.Services quickly returned to normal and the men agreed to resume normal work whilst negotiations were in progress. Such negotiations are proceeding.I hope that further strikes will not occur but if they should do so I will certainly consider any proposals put to me by airlines for the use of other airfields.

Rhodesia (Trade Embargo)

asked the Prime Minister if he will press in the United Nations for a total trade embargo, including an embargo on oil, on the former Government in Rhodesia; and what instructions have been given to the United Kingdom delegation on the extension of such an embargo to include both Portugal and South Africa.

I have nothing to add to my recent statements in the House, or to the Foreign Secretary's Speech to the Security Council on 17th November. I will arrange for the House to be kept informed of developments in the Security Council.

British Embassies (Scientific Attaches)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs which British embassies abroad have officers with scientific or technological qualifications; and which embassies have officers with recent experience of industry recruited from sources other than the Foreign Office.

There are Scientific Attaches in the following Embassies:

  • Bonn.
  • Copenhagen (Resident at Stockholm).
  • Helsinki (Resident at Stockholm).
  • Manila (Resident at Tokyo).
  • Moscow.
  • Oslo (Resident at Stockholm).
  • Paris.
  • Rangoon (Resident at New Delhi).
  • Stockholm.
  • Tokyo.
  • Vienna (Resident at Bonn).
  • Washington (2).
There are specialist Attachés in the following Embassies and Missions:

Beirut (Middle East Development Division)

  • 2 Engineering and Industrial Attachés.
  • 1 Agricultural Attaché.
  • 1 Forestry and Soil Conservation Attaché.

Buenos Aires

  • 2 Veterinary Attachés.

Brussels (United Kingdom Delegation to the European Communities)

  • Counsellor (Agricultural).
  • Atomic Energy Attaché.

Copenhagen

  • First Secretary (Agricultural) and Food.

Geneva (U.K. Delegation to the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade).

  • First Secretary Agriculture.

Paris

  • Agricultural and Food Attaché.

Rome

  • Counsellor Agriculture.

The Hague

  • First Secretary Agriculture and Food.

Washington

  • Minister Defence Research.
  • Counsellor Defence Research.
  • Assistant Defence Research Attaché.
  • Counsellor Petroleum.
  • Counsellor Agriculture and Food.
  • Counsellor Atomic Energy.
At most Embassies there are Service Attachés, some of whom have scientific and technological qualifications, and in a number of posts there are also Civil Air, Labour and Shipping Attachés.
The following posts abroad have Diplomatic Service officers with scientific or technological qualifications:—
  • Addis Ababa.
  • Belgrade.
  • Bonn.
  • Elisabethville.
  • Lisbon.
  • Manila.
  • New York.
  • Osaka.
  • Peking.
  • Vientiane.
At the following Embassies there are United Kingdom-based officers who have been recruited direct from industry or commerce within the past five years:—
  • Baghdad.
  • Bangkok.
  • Brasilia.
  • Havana.
  • Katmandu.
  • Manila.
  • Montevideo.
  • Oslo.
  • Rangoon.
  • The Hague.
  • Vientiane.

There are also large numbers of commercial officers recruited locally who for the most part have had commercial or industrial experience in the countries concerned.

In addition, my hon. Friend may like to know that over two hundred officers in representational grades of the Diplomatic Service, including five Ambassadors, have had previous commercial or industrial experience. Moreover, the Supplementary Open Competition for entry to the administrative grades of the Diplomatic Service, the age limits for which are normally between 27 and 35, gives preference to those with special qualifications, which includes a knowledge of economic, commercial or financial matters.

Finally, officers engaged in commercial and economic work in our Embassies abroad receive special training arranged through the Board of Trade, which includes instruction by industrial and commercial firms. And arrange- ments are made from time to time for officers to be seconded to industry for periods of up to a year.

Commonwealth Relations

Rhodesia (Government Pensioners)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what steps he has taken to safeguard the payment of pensions to Rhodesian Government pensioners resident in the United Kingdom.

I have been asked to reply.The British Government have taken no action which would interfere with the payment of pensions to Rhodesians resident in this country.

National Finance

Southern Rhodesia (Outstanding Loans)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer, in view of Her Majesty's Government's assumption of lawful responsibility for Southern Rhodesia, if Her Majesty's Government will now assume responsibility for the servicing and redemption of all outstanding loans incurred by former Governments of Southern Rhodesia.

No. Her Majesty's Government have assumed no additional responsibility for Southern Rhodesia. The servicing and redemption of all outstanding loans lawfully incurred by the legal Government of Southern Rhodesia, and its predecessors, remain the responsibility of that Government.

Home Department

Prisoner, Durham (Police Dog)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will call for a report from the Chief Constable of Durham on the use he makes of police dogs to intimidate or attack persons already in custody.

My hon. Friend has been good enough to send me the Press cutting on which he has based his Question. It relates to an altogether exceptional case. I understand from the Chief Constable of Durham that on medical advice it was necessary to remove to hospital from a police cell a very violent prisoner who had armed himself with a length of timber ripped from the fittings of the cell. In the confined space it was found impossible for police officers to approach him and disarm him without the risk of serious injury. A police dog was able to wrest the wood from the prisoner and confine him in one corner of the cell, when police officers were able, although not without great difficulty, to remove him to hospital. The dog was at all times under control, and at no stage did he attack the prisoner. I understand that when the case was dealt with at Durham Quarter Sessions the Deputy Chairman expressed the view that the use of the dog in these circumstances had been justified.

Dangerous Substances (Carriage By Road)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he has now received the report of the Standing Committee on Dangerous Substances relating to the carriage by road of dangerous substances; if he will now advise local authorities and other interested bodies on matters relating to the control of dangerous substances in the interests of public safety; and if he will make a statement.

The Committee held its first meeting on 13th September, 1965, and decided to set up technical subcommittees to deal, respectively, with the packaging, loading and labelling of dangerous substances, with the operation of vehicles conveying them, and with the construction of such vehicles. The Committee, whose field includes many hundreds of dangerous substances, has decided to concentrate first on the control of the carriage by road of some 70 inflammable liquids. As soon as the technical sub-committees have made sufficient progress my right hon. and learned Friend expects the Committee to recommend what action should then be taken. The local authorities and industry, as well as the Government Departments concerned, are represented on this advisory body.

Citizenship Of The United Kingdom And Colonies

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will list those countries whose citizens have automatically become citizens of their new country, as described in his booklet, British Nationality and Citizenship of the United Kingdom and Colonies, when their citizenship of the United Kingdom and colonies has been withdrawn following the grant of independence to a British territory.

Citizenship of the United Kingdom and Colonies was withdrawn by Acts of Parliament from persons automatically becoming citizens of the following countries:

  • Ghana.
  • Nigeria.
  • Cyprus.
  • Sierra Leone.
  • Tanganyika.
  • Jamaica.
  • Trinidad and Tobago.
  • Uganda.
  • The Federation of Malaysia.
  • Zanzibar.
  • Kenya.
  • Malawi.
  • Zambia.
  • Malta.
  • The Gambia.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what classes of people have, by reason of a special connection with the United Kingdom, as described in his booklet, British Nationality and Citizenship of the United Kingdom and Colonies, retained citizenship of the United Kingdom and colonies, instead of becoming citizens of their new country, when the country concerned has achieved independence.

Independence Acts have usually included a provision to the effect that a person who would otherwise cease to be a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies on becoming a citizen of the newly independent colony shall not cease to be a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies if he, his father, or his father's father, was born, naturalised or registered in the United Kingdom or in a remaining colony, and that a woman who is the wife of a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies shall not cease to be such a citizen in this way unless her husband does so.

Telephone Service

Kiosks (Vandalism)

asked the Postmaster-General what is the number of public telephone kiosks damaged and out of service owing to vandalism in the area covered by the county borough of Stockport; what percentage this represents of the total number; and what steps he is taking to put them in order and thus provide a full public service.

40, which represents 30 per cent., but all can be used for emergency calls.In view of the general amount of damage which affects areas in various parts of the country, some equipment is unfortunately in short supply and it is necessary to consider priorities of need. In determining these, we take account of the availability of other kiosks in the vicinity, but, in general, we try to put kiosks back in full working order as soon as we can.

Ministry Of Power

Central Electricity Generating Board (Capital Works)

asked the Minister of Power what was the total value, at the latest convenient date, of capital works in progress of the Central Electricity Generating Board.

Roads

Motorways (Fog Conditions)

asked the Minister of Transport if, so as to avoid the additional expenditure which would be incurred by

Number and percentage of classes with more than the stated number of pupils, in January
England and WalesWest Riding of YorkshireWakefield C.B.
Average number of pupils in all classesNumberPer cent.NumberPer cent.NumberPer cent.
Primary schools (classes over 40)
196132·318·24414·32294·32613·3
196232·317·53413·72675·1189·2
196332·618·24614·32795·32211·3
196432·617·24113·42895·42714·6
196532·7N/AN/A2594·8none
Secondary schools (classes over 30)
196129·749·72552·21·84752·56362·4
196229·046·33247·41·71948·25855·8
196328·542·64343·71·63746·74846·6
196428·442·51442·61·72548·55445·8
196527·9N/AN/A1·75649·34637·7

the various other proposals now before him, he will set up a system of staggered convoys, to be led by police cars, on Great Britain's motorways in times of fog, ice, and other hazardous conditions.

I am at present considering the whole problem of fog accidents on motorways and I shall make a statement as soon as I can.

Education And Science

Primary And Secondary Schools (Classes)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science (1) how many classes were in excess of 40 students in primary schools in the West Riding of Yorkshire and the Wakefield City education authority areas, respectively, in 1961 to 1965, respectively;(2) how many classes were in excess of 30 students in secondary schools in the West Riding and in the Wakefield City education authority areas, respectively, in 1961 to 1965, respectively;(3) what was the national average number of students per class in primary and secondary schools, respectively, in 1961 to 1965, respectively;(4) how many classes were in excess of 40 in primary schools and in excess of 30 in secondary schools, respectively, in 1961 to 1965, respectively.

Schoolchildren (Transport)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will review the regulations for the transport of schoolchildren, and particularly for those living in rural areas.

I have nothing to add to the Answer given yesterday to the hon. Member for Bodmin (Mr. Bessell).

Grammar School Places, Nottingham

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what was the number of grammar school places available at the beginning of the 1965 school year in the county of Nottingham; and what percentage this represented in relation to the number of children involved in the 11-plus selection.

The statistics collected by my Department do not enable me to provide this information.

PERCENTAGE OF 13 YEAR-OLD PUPILS FOR WHOM AN L.E.A. IS FINANCIALLY
RESPONSIBLE, IN SCHOOLS OF DIFFERENT TYPES IN JANUARY
19611962196319641965
England and Wales
Primary (all age)3·42·72·11·4N/A
Modern64·764·063·863·5
Technical2·92·92·82·7
Comprehensive4·75·15·96·7
Other secondary5·25·24·64·5
Maintained grammar17·518·118·919·1
Direct grant grammar1·31·41·51·6
Independent0·40·50·50·6
West Riding of Yorkshire
Primary (all age)2·52·22·21·40·6
Modern69·067·864·062·361·4
Technical3·13·02·21·61·2
Comprehensive5·66·610·514·914·5
Other secondary1·6
Maintained grammar18·418·819·518·119·0
Direct grant grammar1·31·41·51·61·6
Independent0·10·10·10·10·1
Wakefield County Borough
Primary (all age)8·610·19·4
Modern71·372·071·377·373·2
Technical
Comprehensive
Other secondary0·4
Maintained grammar14·111·213·715·618·7
Direct grant grammar6·16·65·57·17·7
Independent

Ministry Of Defence

Lysergic Acid Diethylamide

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what research he is pursuing into the use of the drug lysergic acid diethylamide as an agent in chemical

11-Plus Examination (Successful Candidates)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science (1) what was the national average percentage of successful candidates in the 11-plus type of selection for the years 1961 to 1965, respectively;(2) what was the percentage of successful candidates in the 11-plus type of selection in the West Riding education authority area and in Wakefield City education authority area in the years 1961 to 1965, respectively.

The statistics collected by my Department do not enable me to provide the information. The table below, however, shows the distribution of 13year-old pupils, between different types of schools, in the last five years:warfare; and what stocks of this drug he is holding for this purpose.

An important aspect of our Research and Development effort is the study of means of defence against chemical agents which might be used against our forces. Lysergic acid diethylamide is one of a number of substances which are being looked at from this point of view. It would not be in the public interest to say what stocks are held.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what information he has in regard to the stockpiling and threat of the use of the drug lysergic acid diethylamide as an agent of chemical warfare by other countries.

Territorial Army

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he is aware of the uncertainty felt by members of the Territorial Army regarding Government policy; what action he will take; and if he will make a statement.

Government policy for the Territorial Army was explained by my right hon. Friend in his statement on 29th July. Since then discussions have proceeded with the Territorial Army Council, and my right hon. Friend will shortly be presenting a White Paper.

Scotland

New Secondary School, Airdrie

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what starting date he has approved for the new secondary school urgently needed to replace Airdrie High School, which is obsolete and overcrowded.

The education authority is reviewing its earlier proposals for this school in the light of its decision to reorganise secondary education in the Airdrie area on comprehensive lines. Firm forecasts about the building work involved are not yet possible.

Primary And Secondary Schools (Teachers Over 55 Years Of Age)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many teachers over the age of fifty-five years are teaching in primary and secondary schools, respectively; and what these figures represent as a percentage of the actual approved teaching establishment.

The following table shows the position in relation to teachers in public and grant-aided schools in October, 1964, the latest date for which figures are available:

Primary SchoolsSecondary Schools
(a) Total number of posts21,23720,354
(b) Number of certificated teachers over 55 years of age4,8042,954
(c) Numbers at (b) as percentage of those at (a)22·6214·51

Note: There is no approved teaching establishment, and the figures shown at head ( a) are made up of the numbers of certificated teachers under 70 years of age, together with the additional numbers estimated by Education Authorities and other school managers as being required.

Road Bridge, Whifflet

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what starting date he has now approved for the replacement of the road bridge at Calder Street, Whifflet, which is sub-standard and a hazard to road users; and what is the estimated cost of the project.

The town council has been told that this scheme may go ahead in 1966 at an estimated cost of £40,000, and that it may appoint a firm of consultant engineers for the detailed preparation.

Colleges Of Education

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many students he estimates will leave colleges of education in Scotland at the next leaving date; and how this number compares with the estimated number of vacancies.

Some 3,500 students are likely to complete their courses of training at the Scottish colleges of education by the end of the current session. The number of vacancies cannot be estimated at this stage but the need for teachers will still be much in excess of the supply.

Glasgow University (Graduates)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many honours graduates and ordinary graduates left Glasgow University in each of the last five years; and how many entered colleges of education.

NUMBERS OF GLASGOW UNIVERSITY STUDENTS GRADUATING WITH ORDINARY AND HONOURS DEGREES BETWEEN 1961–1965 AND ENTERING SCOTTISH COLLEGES OF EDUCATION IN THOSE YEARS
(1)(2)(3)(4)

Numbers of the Graduates shown in Column (3) who entered Scottish Colleges of Education in

October, 1961

October, 1962

October, 1963

October, 1964

October, 1965

October, 1961–65

Year of Graduation

Total Number graduating in all Faculties

Number of Ord. and Hons. Graduates in Arts Social Studies and Pure Science Faculties

Ord. Degree

Hons. Degree

Ord. Degree

Hons. Degree

Ord. Degree

Hons. Degree

Ord. Degree

Hons. Degree

Ord. Degree

Hons. Degree

Total Ord. and Hons. Graduates

1960–611,0216281771081895129822350
1961–621,133691222104211211428384
1962–631,154692251119121056403
1963–641,234784274116125407
1964–651,217783245110355

Notes:

The figures in Column (2) relate to graduates in all faculties, including faculties such as Law, Medicine, Dentistry and Engineering where graduates do not normally enter teaching. Graduates entering teacher-training are drawn almost entirely from the faculties of Arts, Social Studies and Pure Science, and the total numbers of Ordinary and Honours graduates in those faculties are given in Column (3). Separate figures for Ordinary and Honours graduates in these faculties are not available.

Pensions And National Insurance

Earnings Rule (Married Women)

asked the Minister of Pensions and National Insurance if she will take steps to abolish the earnings rule for the considerable volume of married women who have been deserted by their husbands.

The earnings rule only applies to such women if they are between the ages of 60 and 65 and are drawing retirement pensions. The conditions are the same for all retirement pensioners and I do not think I could attempt to draw distinctions.

Byssinosis

asked the Minister of Pensions and National Insurance what is the number of 100 per cent. new assessments of disability for byssinosis under the Industrial Injuries Acts, for men and women workers, respectively, made in the years ended 30th September 1963, 1964 and 1965, respectively.

For men, the numbers were 4, 1 and 0, and for women, 1, 1, and 0.

National Insurance Fund (Contributions)

asked the Minister of Pensions and National Insurance what was the percentage of contributions to the National Insurance Fund borne by the Exchequer in the years 1949, 1964 and 1965, respectively.

About 27 per cent. and 15 per cent. in 1949–50 and 1964–65 respectively, and an estimated 16 per cent. in 1965–66.

National Insurance Fund (Investments)

asked the Minister of Pensions and National Insurance what was the value of the investments representing the National Insurance Fund at the most recent convenient date for computation; and what was the original cost of such investments.

As at 31st March, 1965, about £170 million in each case; and for the Reserve Fund about £866 million and £1,168 million respectively.

Hospital Patients (Reduced Benefit)

asked the Minister of Pensions and National Insurance how many people on average are affected yearly by the reduction in benefits of patients after a long stay in hospital as set out in leaflet N.I. 9; what is the total amount of benefits withheld; what is the cost involved in administering the reductions; and whether the amounts withheld are paid over to the hospitals concerned.

I regret that the precise information asked for is not available. It is estimated that the number of persons whose National Insurance benefit is reduced under these provisions at any point of time is of the order of 130,000 and that the amount involved in a year is about £17 million. It is not possible to isolate the cost of administering the reductions.As regards the last part of the Question, the hospital expenses fall on public funds and no adjustment is made on account of the reductions.

National Finance

Public Service Pensions (Widows' Proportion)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what would be the cost of raising the widows' proportion of public service pensions from one-third to one-half.

Corporation Tax And Income Tax

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what would have been the yield of Corporation Tax at 35 per cent., 36 per cent., 37 per cent., 38 per cent., 39 per cent., and 40 per cent. and the yield of Income Tax at standard rates of 7s., 7s. 3d., 7s. 6d., 7s. 9d., 8s. and 8s. 3d., all for the financial years 1964–65 and 1965–66.

Any calculations would be unrealistic unless they made assumptions about the likely effect of Corporation Tax and Income Tax at various levels on such variables as the level of dividends and of capital investment by companies. As these assumptions would be highly speculative and as the calculations would involve a disproportionate amount of work, I regret that I cannot give the information asked for.

National Plan

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many copies of Command Paper No. 2764, The National Plan, and of the popular version have been sold; how many copies of each of the issues still remain in stock; and what is the total of cash receipts compared with cost of production.

The Answer is as follows:

National Plan
Command Paper 2764Popular Version
Number of copies sold13,600200,000
Number of copies supplied for Parliamentary and official purposes5,20029,000
Number of copies in stock on 18th November 19651,05031,000
Total cost of production£10,730£8,210
*Total receipts from sales£12,760£5,000
* Allows for discounts to booksellers.