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Volume 722: debated on Tuesday 14 December 1965

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Written Answers To Questions

Tuesday, 14th December, 1965

National Finance

Purchase Tax (Cricket Balls)


asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will remove the Purchase Tax on cricket balls.

I would refer my hon. Friend to the reply given to the hon. Member for Bromsgrove (Mr. Dance) on 7th December.

Temporary Import Charge


asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer when the temporary surcharge will be lifted.

I would refer the hon. Gentleman to the reply my right hon. Friend gave to the hon. Member for Bodmin (Mr. Bessell) on 7th December.

Special Coins (Battle Of The Somme)


asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether, in commemoration of the Battle of the Somme, he will mint in 1966 suitable coins for modern usage.

Double Taxation Agreements


asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will give an assurance that, in renegotiating double Income Tax treaties, he will have regard to the model treaty of the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development.

My right hon. Friend will certainly bear this in mind, but the precise terms of any agreement are a matter for negotiation between the countries concerned.

Nursery Service (Taxation Of Benefit)


asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he is aware that a woman employed by an industrial firm providing nursery service for the children of employees is not taxable on the company's outlay for her child, whereas in the case of a small firm unable to provide such a service but meeting the charge at an outside nursery, the cost is regarded as taxable income to the parent; and if he will remove this anomaly.

The remedy would be to tax the value of the benefit in the first case, but practical considerations are against doing so.

Christmas Clubs And Tontines (Tax)


asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer why he has decided this year to tax Christmas clubs and tontine clubs; how he proposes to trace the subscribers; what extra moneys he expects to collect; and whether he is satisfied that the cost of collection will not outweigh the results in finance.

Christmas clubs and tontines, like thrift and loan clubs generally, have for many years been charged to tax on interest and other income. The usual arrangement is that the club accounts for the tax due and thus there is no occasion for the Inland Revenue to collect from individual subscribers.

Car Park (Liphook)


asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer when he expects the Treasury Solicitor to complete his negotiations with the Petersfield Rural District Council over the proposed car park at Liphook.

New Broken Hill Company (Domicile)


asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what decision he has come to about the future domicile of the New Broken Hill Company.

It is not customary to discuss the tax affairs of particular taxpayers in the House.

Valuation Office (Commitments)


asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what are the increasing commitments of the Valuation Office which have made it necessary to abandon the quinquennial revaluation due in 1968.

There are increasing commitments in connection with redevelopment schemes, housing, slum clearance, trunk roads and motorways; and new duties in connection with the Capital Gains Tax and the proposed Land Commission.



asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will withdraw halfpennies from circulation, as they are now practically worthless.

Sewerage Cost (Traders' Contribution)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether a contribution made by a trader for the purpose of his trade towards the cost of the provision of sewers by a sewerage authority ranks for capital allowances as though he had himself incurred capital expenditure on plant.

Section 40, Finance Act, 1963, made provision for allowances to be granted in respect of any contribution of a capital sum made by a trader towards expenditure incurred by a sewerage authority on providing plant for treating trade effluent.

Rhodesia (Government Stocks)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what rate of interest will apply on Government stocks held back for the time being, and money due to residents in Rhodesia.

When the present restrictions are lifted, residents in Rhodesia will receive the amount of interest due to them on any United Kingdom Government Stocks which they hold at the normal rate as specified in the prospectus of the stock in question.

Public Service Pensioners (Residence)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what proposals he has for legislation in order to withhold pensions from British public service pensioners on grounds of place of residence; and to what extent it is Her Majesty's Government's policy to vary public service pensions with the place of residence of the recipient.

None, but under Statute eligibility for pensions increase depends on residence in some cases.

Public Service Pensioners (Rhodesia)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many British public service pensioners are now resident in Rhodesia; and what is the annual value of the pension paid to them.

There are about 600 pensioners of the U.K. public services, including an estimate for pensions for which local authorities are responsible; the total annual amount of the pensions is about £175,000. In addition, there are about 350 to 400 pensioners of Indian and other overseas services who receive between them about £150,000 a year either from U.K. funds or through the Crown Agents in London.

Local Government

Sewerage Scheme (Tattershall And Coningsby)


asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether, in view of the explanatory letters sent to him by the Horncastle Rural District Council and the Lincolnshire River Authority, he will now reconsider his decision not to allow the council to proceed with their proposals for the Tattershall and Coningsby sewerage scheme.

The council has been invited to prepare detailed drawings and has been told that the question of allowing the scheme to proceed will be considered further when this has been done.

Air Pollution, London (Sulphur Dioxide)


asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he has studied the warning contained in a report on air pollution by Doctor S. G. Burgess, scientific adviser to the Greater London Council, details of which have been sent to him, that the concentration of sulphur dioxide reached undesirably high levels in Central and South London during 1964, and that the use of smokeless fuel was a contributory cause of such pollution; and what action he is taking to defeat this increasing danger to health.

My right hon. Friend accepts that sulphur dioxide is, in general, an undesirable pollutant of the air, but he is not aware of any evidence that, in the concentrations normally found in London, it is harmful to health. Research on the subject is being actively pursued.As the report recognises, the average concentration in London remained at about the same level in 1964 as in previous years. Smokeless fuels in general give rise to less sulphur dioxide than others.

Reorganisation (Tyneside)


asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he will now make a statement on the reorganisation of local government on Tyneside.

Yesterday I wrote to the Tyneside local authorities inviting their comments on my present conclusion that I should not accept the proposals of the Local Government Commission for a continuous county and four most-purpose boroughs, but should instead put forward a proposal of my own for a single all-purpose borough. I have sent my hon. Friend a copy of this letter.

New Local Tax

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what consultations he is having with local authorities about the new local tax he is proposing.

Although I am convinced that rates must be replaced by a fairer local tax, the shape of this must depend on the future structure of local government. I shall have no specific proposals for such a tax for some time to come.

Direct Labour Organisation, Salford (Cost Of Work)


asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he is aware of the high cost of work done by the Salford direct labour organisation; by what amount the cost of the work on the first phase of the Higher Irlam scheme carried out by this organisation exceeded the cost as originally allowed by him; and by what amount the estimate submitted by the direct labour organisation for the second stage of the scheme exceeded the tender by a private enterprise builder the acceptance of which was authorised by him.

Salford City Council has appointed an independent adviser to examine the cost of the work carried out by its direct labour organisation and until I have seen the results of that investigation I cannot comment.

Caravan Sites (Security Of Tenure)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will take steps to ensure longer security of tenure for persons living at residential caravan sites, whose caravans are too large to permit speedy removal.

My right hon. Friend fears that this would present difficulties, since all caravans are by nature movable.If the hon. Member would let him know of any proposals he has in mind, he would be glad to consider them.


Prefabricated Bungalows


asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what is the Government's policy with regard to the better type of prefabricated bungalows built by local authorities in the 1945 period.

Generally, they can remain in use while they continue to provide satisfactory housing or until their sites are needed for redevelopment; but if they are built on open spaces they are required by law to be removed by the end of this year.

Rent Act (Schemes)


asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government how many schemes under Section 22(2) of the Rent Act he has approved or has under consideration; and in how many of them provision is made for taking the views of the local authorities on the qualifications or pay of persons to be appointed rent officers.

The Clerks of all the 157 registration areas have been consulted on a draft scheme, and over one hundred councils have been asked formally to comment upon one, as required under the Section. The terms of employment and pay of rent officers have been discussed with the local authority associations. The rent officers are, however, appointed not by the local authorities but by their Clerks as a personal function. No provision has been made, therefore, for seeking the views of authorities on these appointments.

Ex-Service Men


asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what replies he has had from local authorities to his circulars 24/55 and 60/65 in regard to the housing of ex-Service men; and whether he is satisfied from such replies that there is a general acceptance of responsibility for rehousing ex-Service men.

My right hon. Friend is satisfied that most housing authorities accept responsibility for rehousing ex-Service men. Only 74 out of 1,412 in England and Wales have said they were unable to give full effect to the advice in Circular 60/65, which is the only one he has issued on this subject. Most of these have said they will comply in part.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he will lay down further guide lines for local authorities in respect of the housing of ex-Service men so as to ensure fairness between local authorities.

My right hon. Friend sees no need for further general guidance. But he will be writing to those local authorities who do not accept the recommendations of his recent circular.



asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government when he intends to introduce legislation embodying the White Paper of 24th November, as far as the increase in council house building subsidies is concerned; how much this item will cost the Exchequer in the first year of operation; and if this item will be maintained at the same figure even if general market rates are reduced below their present level of 61 per cent.

I would refer my hon. Friend to the Housing Subsidies Bill which was presented on 2nd December and in particular to paragraph 16 of the Explanatory and Financial Memorandum.

Industrialised Building Methods


asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government, when publishing future housing returns, whether he will include individual columns showing the houses and flats built by industrialised methods.

As stated in the recent White Paper, "The Housing Programme 1965 to 1970", it is proposed to issue a new statistical abstract on Housing. This will include the number of dwellings built by industrialised methods in the country as a whole.

Building Standards


asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what steps he proposes to take to protect purchasers of new houses from jerry-building; and if he will strengthen the position of the National House Builders' Registration Council.

I would refer the hon. Member to my reply to a Question by the hon. Member for Croydon, South (Sir R. Thompson) on 7th December.

Redevelopment Schemes (Owner-Occupied Houses)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he will issue a circular to planning authorities on the need to provide for some owner-occupied housing in all redevelopment schemes so as to include a number of professional people in each community.

Local authorities were asked in paragraph 25 of the recent Housing White Paper (Cmnd. 2838) to consider the needs in their areas for houses for owner-occupation as well as for renting.


British Broadcasting Corporation Broadcasts


asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Relations what steps he is taking to improve the reception of British Broadcasting Corporation broadcasts in Southern Rhodesia; and how soon he expects such improvements to be made.

There is evidence that steps already taken to improve the audibility of the B.B.C.'s direct short-wave broadcasts have made a noticeable improvement. Our relay station in Bechuanaland, which will come into service very shortly and includes a medium-wave transmitter, will make these broadcasts even more easily audible to listeners.


asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Relations if he will arrange for transcripts of all official Government broadcasts from Bechuanaland to Rhodesia to be placed in the House of Commons Library.

The broadcasts from the relay station in Bechuanaland will consist of B.B.C. programmes in the Corporation's World and African services. It is not contemplated that there will be any official Government broadcasts.

United Kingdom Citizens


asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Relations if he will give the latest figures of United Kingdom citizens resident in Rhodesia who have left the country since the Unilateral Declaration of Independence.

Kariba Dam (Mining)


asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Relations what evidence he has that the Kariba Dam has been mined by the illegal régime in Rhodesia.

Public Debt (Interest Payments)


asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Relations why, although by virtue of the Southern Rhodesia Act 1965 he has power to direct the payment of interest on Rhodesian public debt in this country, he has permitted default.

Though the Government of the United Kingdom have been given certain powers to enable them to ensure the lawful Government of Southern Rhodesia, including the power to make laws and in certain cases to exercise, or control the exercise of, executive powers in Southern Rhodesia, they have not assumed the government of that country and have not in any way succeeded either to the assets or to the liabilities of the Government of Southern Rhodesia. It is not for the British Government to intervene in a situation where interest payments of Rhodesian public debt in this country have been stopped as a result of the illegal actions of Mr. Smith and his colleagues on 11th November.

Reserve Bank Of Rhodesia Act (Provisions)


asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Relations how many of the provisions of the Reserve Bank of Rhodesia Act, No. 24 of the Legislature of Southern Rhodesia for 1964, have been brought into operation; and what were the dates fixed by the Governor for the coming into operation of such provisions and the dates of each proclamation fixing such dates.

All provisions of the Reserve Bank of Rhodesia Act, No. 24 of the Legislature of Southern Rhodesia for 1964 have been brought into operation.All Sections except, 4, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 20, 21, 22 and 23 were brought into operation at 22nd May, 1964, by Southern Rhodesia Proclamation No. 14 of 1964, 19th May, 1964 (Southern Rhodesia Gazette Notice No. 379 of 1964).Sections 11, 12, 13, 17, 18 and 23 were brought into operation at 13th November, 1964, by Southern Rhodesia Proclamation No. 41 of 1964, 11th November, 1964 (Southern Rhodesia Gazette Notice No. 790 of 1964).Sections 14 and 15 were brought into operation at 22nd January, 1965, by Rhodesia Proclamation No. 7 of 1965, 18th January, 1965 (Southern Rhodesia Gazette Notice No. 65 of 1965).Sections 21 and 22 were brought into operation at 1st April, 1965, by Rhodesia Proclamation No. 14 of 1965, 19th February, 1965, (Southern Rhodesia Gazette Notice No. 146 of 1965).Sections 4, 16 and 20 were brought into operation at 1st July, 1965, by Rhodesia Proclamation No. 35 of 1965, 22nd June, 1965 (Southern Rhodesia Gazette Notice No. 453 of 1965).

Ministry Of Power

Power Stations And Transmission Lines (Inquiries)


asked the Minister of Power what consideration he has given to the recommendation of the Council on Tribunals that independent inspectors should he appointed to conduct power station and transmission line inquiries instead of the present method of inspections conducted by representatives from his Department and the Ministry of Housing and Local Government; and what action he will take.

I have this matter under consideration, in conjunction with my right hon. Friend, the Minister of Housing and Local Government.

Mining Industry (Managerial Reorganisation)


asked the Minister of Power if he will issue a White Paper on the managerial reorganisation of the National Coal Board and mining industry, including the terms of redundancy compensation.

No. I do not think this is an appropriate matter for a White Paper, but I have arranged for an explanatory document prepared by the National Coal Board to be placed in the Library.

Ministry Of Technology

Automation And Machine Tool Industries (Aberdeen)


asked the Minister of Technology if he will use the resources of the Atomic Energy Authority for the establishment in Aberdeen of non-atomic sphere such as automation and other sophisticated machine tools.

I would refer my hon. Friend to the Answer which I gave him on the 30th November.

Denny Hovercraft

asked the Minister of Technology why no mention of the Denny Hovercraft developments is made in the Sixteenth Annual Report of the National Research Development Corporation 1964–65.

I understand the reason is that no significant developments took place during the year in question.

Production Engineering Advisory Service

asked the Minister of Technology what action he contemplates to increase the spread of technology on the workshop floor, especially in the smaller firms.

I have decided to set up a Production Engineering Advisory Service to help the engineering and allied industries to increase their productive efficiency. This service will cover all aspects of engineering from the improvement of engineering design to new and improved management and production techniques, including automation.The service will be available to all engineering firms and will be operated on behalf of the Ministry of Technology by the Production Engineering Research Association in conjunction with the Regional Offices of my Department. Mobile demonstration and advisory units will be stationed in each Region and teams will be available to visit engineering works and show designers, foremen and production staff how to use the most modern production engineering techniques.The service will begin as soon as the mobile units can be prepared and staffed and I hope that it will be in operation in all the Regions within twelve months. Initially it will run for a period of four years and the net cost to the Exchequer will be about £1 million.

Education And Science

Royal Opera House (Financial Assistance)


asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether he will make a statement about the extent of the financial assistance to be provided by Her Majesty's Government so as to guarantee the future of the Royal Opera House, Covent Garden.

I am at present considering proposals about the amount of financial assistance to the Royal Opera House in the context of the total provision for the Arts Council for 1966–67.

Epping Forest (Minister's Powers)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will give an assurance that he will not exercise his powers so as to derogate from the provisions of Sections 7 and 9 of the Epping Forest Act 1878 that the Forest should at all times be kept uninclosed and unbuilt on as an open space for the recreation and enjoyment of the public; and how often in the last five years his powers have been exercised without the consent of the Corporation of the City of London as Conservators of Epping Forest.

No. I will consider on its merits any question that may arise as to the exercise of my powers in relation to Epping Forest. The powers have not been exercised in that area during the last five years and the second part of the question does not therefore arise.

New Primary And Secondary Schools (England And Wales)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many new primary and secondary schools were completed in England and Wales in the fourth quarter of 1964 and in the first three-quarters of 1965.

The numbers are as follows:

1964 Fourth quarter10838
1965 First quarter8245
1965 Second quarter7932
1965 Third quarter13065
* Including first instalments.

Ministry Of Defence

Armed Services, Northern Ireland (Establishments)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will list the Royal Navy, Army and Royal Air Force establishments in Northern Ireland and the number of civilians employed in each establishment, respectively.

The Royal Navy, Army and Royal Air Force establishments in Northern Ireland, and the number of civilians employed by the Ministry of Defence in each establishment, are:

EstablishmentNumber of Civilians Employed
H.M.S. SEA EAGLE (including the Joint Anti-Submarine School, Londonderry, R.N. Maintenance Base and R.N. W/T Stations, Bo lie and Killylane).293 (R.N.) 23 (R.A.F.)
R.N. Aircraft Repair Yard, Belfast1,362
R.N. Armament Depot, Antrim (including Sub-depots at Cross-gar and Kilnappy).466
R.N. Fuel Depot, Lisahally57
Headquarters, Northern Ireland Command, Lisburn (including miscellaneous units).446
Regimental H.Q., 5th Innis-killing Dragoon Guards.3
Military Wing, Musgrave Park Hospital and H.Q., 15 Coy.23
Claims Commission5
Regimental H.Q., Royal Ulster Rifles.5
Command Ordnance Depot245
46 Commando Workshop, R.E.M.E. and Stores Section.301
Command Ammunition Depot27
1 Infantry Battalion37
Week-end Training Centre5
1 Royal Armoured Corps Regiment.39
Regimental H.Q., Royal Innis-ktlling Fusiliers.4
90 Command Engineer Stores Depot, Antrim.28
1 Infantry Battalion, Holywood38
Week-end Training Centre, Magilligan.4
Regimental H.Q., Royal Irish Fusiliers, Armagh.3
Central Vehicle Park, Long Kesh83
H.Q., North Irish Brigade Depot, Ballymena.59
No. 23 Maintenance Unit, Alder-grove.1,064
Air Surface Warfare Development Unit, Ballykelly.238
Air Traffic Control Radar Unit, Bishops Court.54
Meteorological Unit, Long Kesh17
Surface Movements Unit, Belfast (including Meteorological Unit).38
31st Royal Observer Corps, Lisburn.7

F111a Aircraft (Delivery Date)


asked the Secretary of State for Defence, in assessing the suggested saving in defence costs by 1969–70, on what scale he assumed that delivery of the F111A and F111B would have taken place in that year and previous years on the basis of the full purchase that he contemplated.

On the basis that deliveries of the F111 A to the R.A.F. would begin in 1968–69. In line with normal practice, I cannot give further details of combat aircraft numbers. There is no U.K. interest in purchasing the F111B.

Regular Army (War Establishment)


asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is the number of reinforcements that would be required to bring all units of the Regular Army up to their war establishment.

About 50,000, for those units that will be included in the mobilisation Order of Battle.

Territorial Army (Wareham And Purbeck Rdc)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he has received a resolution from the Wareham and Purbeck Rural District Council concerning disbandment of the existing Territorial Army; what reply he proposes to make; and if he will make a statement.

Yes. The Council has been told that the White Paper which will be published tomorrow will explain more fully the purpose and content of the Government's plan.

Royal Hospital School (Holbrook)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is the number of new entries this term into the Royal Hospital School, Holbrook, Suffolk; and how many are officers' sons and ratings' orphans, respectively.

Eighty-four new boys entered the Royal Hospital School this term. Of these eight (including one orphan) are the sons of direct entry officers; twenty-one (including one orphan) are the sons of officers promoted after at least four years' service on the lower deck; and fifty-five (including six orphans) are the sons of ratings. My hon. and gallant Friend will be glad to appreciate that as time passes after a war, the number of Service orphans of school age diminishes.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is the number of officers' sons at the Royal Hospital School, Holbrook, Suffolk, whose fees are wholly paid from the Services Education Fund and whose parents pay nothing; and how many ratings' widows have to pay fees.

There are at the Royal Hospital School twenty-four sons of direct entry officers and one hundred and four sons of officers promoted after at least four years' service on the lower deck, in respect of whom full fees are paid. Their parents are eligible to claim Navy Education Allowance, in the same way as the two hundred serving ratings who have sons at the school. There are at the school thirteen sons of ratings' widows whose mothers contribute towards the fees; in each case the parental contribution is less than the full amount of the fee.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he will abolish the earnings rule for ratings' widows in assessing the fees to be paid for their orphan sons at the Royal Hospital School, Holbrook, Suffolk.

Contributions towards the fees are based on the parent's ability to pay, and great care is taken to avoid hardship to widows.

Ministry Of Health

Invalid Chair (Supply)


asked the Minister of Health why no order has been placed by his Department for the supply of a particular type of invalid chair in the case of one of the hon. Member for Woking's constituents, details of which have been sent to him, although an official application was made to the Ministry of Health appliance Centre at Kingston-upon-Thames six weeks ago by a senior neurologist at Woking Victoria Hospital.

Attempts have been made to obtain from Ministry contractors the special chair required by the hon. Member's constituent but these have failed. An order has now been placed with another firm. I regret the delay and I am writing to the hon. Member.

National Assistance Act Schemes (Kent)

asked the Minister of Health on what date the Kent County Council submitted to him schemes made under Sections 21 or 29 of the National Assistance Act, 1948; and on what date any such scheme came into force.

Under Section 21 the scheme was submitted on 3rd May, 1949, and came into force on 1st July, 1949. Under Section 29, the scheme for the blind was submitted on 3rd May, 1949 and came into force on 2nd July, 1949, and schemes for the deaf and for the general classes of the handicapped were submitted on 28th July, 1955 and came into force on 12th November, 1955. The schemes for the blind and general classes have since been amended.


St Thomas's Hospital

asked the Minister of Health whether he has completed his discussion with the Board of Governors about the rebuilding of St. Thomas's Hospital, London; and when he now expects the next stage of building to commence.

Following further discussions between the Ministry and the Board of Governors of St. Thomas's Hospital, covering among other matters a substantial reduction in the estimated cost of the scheme, the Board are examining a proposal which it is hoped will make it possible for Stage II of the reconstruction of the hospital to start in 1968.

Vietnam (Christmas Truce)


asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs if, in pursuance of Her Majesty's Government's policy of seeking a solution of the Vietnam problem, he will discuss with President Johnson the recent offer of a Christmas truce by the Vietcong Government, which promises a possible end to the war in Vietnam.

My right hon. Friend the Prime Minister informed the House on 9th December that he hoped to discuss with President Johnson all aspects of the Vietnam problem.


Driving Tests (Darlington)

asked the Minister of Transport how many learner drivers are waiting to take their test in Darlington; and what is the average waiting time before applicants can take a driving test.




asked the Minister of Transport what Government machinery exists to ensure the continued running of the railways in the event of strikes of key workers on them.

I cannot anticipate what measures, if any, the Government would take in advance of the actual circumstances.

asked the Minister of Transport if he will introduce legislation to empower himself to intervene in threatened disputes on the railways before any disruption to services can take place as a result of such disputes.

Stroud Station (Swindon-Gloucester Line)

asked the Minister of Transport what proposals he has received from British Railways concerning the closure or alteration of the usage of Stroud station and the introduction of single-line working between Swindon and Gloucester; and whether he will make a statement.

The Railways Board has not put forward any proposals concerning Stroud station. I have approved the resignalling of the Swindon-Kemble section of the Swindon-Gloucester line, as part of a major scheme for the installation of multi-aspect signalling in the Swindon area; the Board's proposals for a similar scheme in the Gloucester area, which includes the line from Kemble to Gloucester, have just been put to me. I understand that, if the Gloucester scheme is approved, the new signalling when installed would permit the introduction of single-line working between Swindon and Standish Junction, but this simplification would not he possible before 1968 at the earliest.


Classified Road Programme, 1969–70

asked the Minister of Transport if he will announce the further extension of the classified road programme to 1969–70.

My provisional list of schemes costing over £100,000 each for 1969–70 outside London and the conurbations is set out below. These, together with one or two other schemes still under consideration, are estimated

Highway AuthorityDescription SchemeEstimated Cost (Grant Element)
South Eastern Division
Portsmouth C.B.CClass I Potential Inner Ring Road—Southern Section, Commercial Road (A.3) to Victoria Avenue.800,000 (600,000)
Surrey C.CClass II—Smithambottom-Burgh Heath-Betchworth Road (B.2032), Pebblehill-Pass between South Orbital Road and Maidstone-Guildford Road (A.25).600,000 (360,000)
Kent C.CClass I—Maidstone-Chatham Road (A.229) between M.2. and A.20 (M).1,000,000 (750,000)
East Sussex C.CA.21—Flimwell Diversion550,000 (412,500)
Surrey C.CClass I—Guildford, Farnham-Alton Road (A.31), Dual carriageways from junction with B.3009 at Tongham to Puttenham Cross Roads (B.3000).480,000 (360,000)
Surrey C.CClass I—London-Eastbourne Road (A.22), Godstone By-pass between South Orbital Road and the Maidstone-Guildford Road (A.25) to Godstone.420,000(315,000)
West Sussex C.C. (Worthing B.C.).Class I—London-Worthing Road (A.24), Reconstruction of Broadwater Bridge and Approaches, Worthing.300,000 (225,000)
South Western Division
Devon C.CA.379—Teignmouth Central Area, new road, Potential Class 1, £132,000, Potential Class III, £17,000.149,000 (107,000)
Somerset C.C. (Yeovil T.C.)A.37—Kingston-Yeovil Through Route, Part II, Red Lion Inn-Fiveways.150,000 (112,500)
Dorset C.C. (Poole T.C.)Potential Class I—Overbridge at level crossing, Poole Old Town, Stage I.550,000 (412,500)
Plymouth C.B.CA.388—North Cross Roundabout. Stage I650,000 (487,500)
Somerset C.C. (Weston-super-Mare T.C).A.371—Locking Moor Road-Windwhistle Road250,000 (187,500)
South Midland Division
Salisbury City/WiltsCity Relief Road—Stage II, Weeping Cross (A.30) to Castle Road (A.345).380,000 (285,000)
Bucks CCA.412—Dualling from Five points, Iver Heath to Denham Roundabout.474,000 (355,500)

to cost about £36 million, towards which the Government expect to contribute approximately £28 million.

As in previous years, I am asking the highway authorities concerned to confirm that they are ready to start work on the schemes in the year indicated and also that the estimated cost and other details already notified to me still hold good.

Inclusion of schemes in this list is without prejudice to the outcome of any necessary planning and land acquisition procedures, or to the acceptance, in some cases, of the potential classification indicated.

Classified road schemes costing under £100,000 each and those within London and the conurbations are programmed separately but it is expected that, overall, approximately £150 million worth of new classified road schemes will go ahead in 1969–70, towards which the Government plan to contribute some £108 million in grants.

Highway Authority

Description of Scheme

Estimated Cost (Grant Element) £

Bristol C.B.C.Inner Circuit Road—Stage V, Colstone Avenue to Horsefair.574,000 (430,500)
Gloucestershire C.C.Avonmouth-Aust Coast Road (B.4055)387,000 (232,200)
Gloucester C.B.CInner Relief Road—Part II, St. Oswald Road to Bruton Way.300,000 (150,000)
Berkshire C.CWokingham Road (A.329)—Dualling500,000(375,000) Provisional
Berks C.CA.420—Cumnor and Botley By-Pass750,000 (550,000)
Bristol C.B.C. and Gloucester C.C.Parkway—Stage I, Hambrook Spur (M.4) to Muller Road.3,100,000 (2,325,000)

West Midland Division

Warwickshire C.CA.444—North of Bedworth By-Pass to Coton Arches, Nuneaton.431,000 (323,250)
Shrewsbury B.CPotential Class II—Meole Island to the Column513,000 (308,000)
Worcestershire C.CA.435—Station Road, Wythall to south of Gorcott Hill1,300,000 (975,000)
Warwickshire C.CA.452—Kenilworth Western By-pass to Morlands Bridge (section between north of Balsall Common and Morlands Bridge).433,000 (325,000)

North Western Division

Blackburn C.B.CPotential Class I—Internal Relief Road, Stage I1,000,000 (750,000) Provisional
Ellesmere Port T.CPotential Class I—Rossmore Road to Oil Sites Road, Ellesmere Port, proposed new road.1,200,000 (900,000)
Lancashire C.C. and Bolton C.B.C.Potential Class I—New link road from A.673 west of Bolton to M.61.865,000 (649,000)
Warrington C.B.CA.49—Bridge Foot Flyover450,000 (338,000)
Cheshire C.CPotential Class I—Nantwich town enctre, Redevelopment, Stage I, of By-pass to town centre.160,000 (120,000) Provisional
Lancashire C.CA.674—New link road from A.674 to M.61400,000 (300,000)
Chester C.B.CA.56—Brook Street Improvement from Inner Ring Road (proposed north-east section) to Brook Street Bridge near Black Diamond Street.250,000 (188,000)

Northern Division

Middlesbrough C.B.C.Northern Route and Tees Newport Bridge—Potential, Class I.1,142,000 (857,000)
Durham C.C.Durham City Through Road—Stage II, Elvet Bridge180,000 (135,000)
Carlisle C.B.CCivic Centre—Caldew Bridge A.595300,000 (225,000)
Middlesbrough C.B.C.Class I—Marton Road, Improvement344,000 (258,000)
Durham C.C.Durham City Through Road—Stage III, A. 177319,000 (239,000)
Durham C.C. (Washington New Town).A. 182—Shipley Row Improvement300,000 (225,000)
Durham C.C. (Washington New Town).B.1289—Hylton-Washington reconstruction250,000 (150,000)

York and Humberside Division

Kingston-upon-Hull C.B.CPotential Class I (part) and Class II (part)—Extension of Ferensway and Hessle Road to Myton Place and improvement of Hessle Road from Bean Street to Porter Street.950,000 (712,500) Provisional
Sheffield C.B.CPotential Class I—Widening of Eyre Street from Furnival Street to St. Mary's Road.200,000 (150,000)
Sheffield C.B.CA.61—Improvement at Wadsley Bridge265,000 (199,000)
Rotherham C.B.CPotential Class I—Inner By-pass-Section 2680,000 (510,000)
YorkCB.CA.19—Gillygate Improvement165,000 (123,000)

Highway Authority

Description of Scheme

Estimated Cost (Grant Element)£

Doncaster C.B.C.Potential Class I—Eastern Inner By-pass, Stage I560,000 (420,000)
East Riding C.C.A.1035—Hull Bridge Tickton Diversion250,000 (187,500)
Lindsey C.C.A.161—Crowle Over Bridge317,000 (238,000)

East Midland Division

Nottingham C.B.C.Eastern Sector, Inner Ring Bridge, Phase II3,550,000 (2,663,000)
Leicestershire C.C.A—50 Dualling between Glenfield and City Boundary210,000 (158,000)
Lincoln C.B.C.Inner Ring Road—Stage II430,000 (322,000)
Northampton C.B.C.A.5123, A.50 and B.567—Improvement at Plough Hotel Junction.300,000 (225,000)
Notts. C.C. and Mansfie B.C. (claiming authority).Inner Ring Road (Nottingham Road to Leeming Street) (A.60).220,000(165,000) Provisional

Eastern Division

Hertfordshire C.C.Class—I Watford Central Area, Phase III2,600,000 (1,950,000)
Essex C.CClass I—Chelmsford Inner Relief Road (Stage 2(b))306,000 (229,000)
Cambridgeshire C.C.A.130—Sawston By-pass (single 2Lcarriageway only)180,000 (135,000)
Gt. Yarmouth C.B.C.A.47—Fullers Hill and Bure Bridge187,000 (140,000)
Hertfordshire C.C.A.1010—Waltham Cross Link Road524,000 (393,000)
Norwich C.B.C.A.47—Foundry Bridge Junction340,000 (255,000)
Essex C.CClass II—Inner Ring Road, Colchester-southern leg from Lexden Road to Osborne Street.1,120,000 (672,000)
Hertfordshire C.C.A.412—Uxbridge Road, Rickmansworth. Widening236,000 (177,000)
Essex C.C. (Borough of Colchester).A. 133—Greenstead Roundabout to Clengoe Hill520,000 (390,000)

Public Building And Works

Building Materials

asked the Minister of Public Building and Works if he is satisfied that serious shortages of all building materials have now been overcome; and if he will make a statement.

MaterialStock at end of October, 1964Number of Working Days SupplyPresent StockNumber of Working Days Supply
thousand tonsSeptember, 1965 thousand tons
Asbestos Cement
Corrugated sheets66·44462·842
Flat sheets10·03310·951
Rainwater and soil5·1574·865
Other asbestos produce26·65330·866
October, 1965 (P)
All types excluding flettons53·53230·615

In pursuance to my reply [OFFICIAL REPORT, 15th November, 1965; Vol. 720, c. 654], a schedule showing the comparison of the stocks of the main building materials and the number of days supply held in October, 1964, and in September/October, 1965, follows:


Stock at end of October, 1964

Number of Working Days Supply

Present Stock

Number of Working Days Supply


thousand tonsOctober, 1965 thousand tons
September, 1965 (P)

Building Blocks, Concrete and Hollow Clay

thousand sq.yds.thousand sq.yds
Dense and Hollow Clay




September, 1965 (P)

Stoneware Pipes

thousand tonsthousand tons
Up to 9 in.66·52863·029
Over 9 in9·95011·757
September, 1965 (P)

Stoneware Conduits

thousand tonsthousand tons
September, 1965 (P)

Pitch Fibre Pipes

thousand tonsthousand tons
September, 1965
million sq.yds.million sq.yds.


September, 1965


sq. yds.sq. yds.
Roofing slates271·363324·778
Damp proof slates439765


sq. yds.sq. yds.
Clay Roofing tiles1,188·9105956·9106
Concrete Roofing tiles2,912·1223,598·934
Unglazed Quarry tiles328·151282·439
Other Unglazed tiles50·41076·022
Glazed tiles1,460·4241,723·332
September, 1965 (P)

Metal Windows, Doors and Curtain Walling


Casinos And Gambling Establishments


asked the Minister of Public Building and Works what percentage of the national building effort was directed to the building of casinos and gambling establishments in 1964.

Detailed figures for the construction of casinos and gambling establishments are not available.About 2·5 per cent. (£70 million) of all the new work carried out in 1964 by contractors was accounted for by enter tainment buildings which included theatres, sports stadiums, hotels and restaurants as well as casinos and gambling establishments.



asked the Prime Minister what further plans he has to assist those Rhodesians supporting the constitutional authorities in that country.

If my hon. Friend is referring to financial assistance to loyal public servants in Rhodesia, I hope that an announcement can be made very soon.


asked the Prime Minister, what plans Her Majesty's Government have to compensate British subjects resident in the United Kingdom for losses sustained as a direct consequence of the imposition of economic sanctions on Southern Rhodesia.


asked the Prime Minister whether he will make a statement on his conversation with Mr. Garfield Todd while in Rhodesia.


asked the Prime Minister whether he will publish a record of his conversations in Rhodesia with political leaders other than those belonging to the Rhodesia Front.


asked the Prime Minister if he will either publish in full, of make available in the Library, the text of his official talks with Mr. Garfield Todd and Mr. Nkomo during his visit to Rhodesia in October.


asked the Prime Minister whether Mr. Garfield Todd, Mr. Joshua Nkomo, and other loyal Rhodesians are still detained, and by what authority; what reports he has received on the state of Mr. Nkomo's health; and if he will make a statement.

Yes. Some are restricted and some are detained under the Law and Order (Maintenance) Act, 1960, as amended, and the Emergency (Maintenance of Law and Order) Regulations, 1965. I have no firm information about the state of Mr. Nkomo's health.


asked the Prime Minister what response he has made to the demand by African leaders that the illegal régime in Rhodesia be removed by 15th December; and what progress has now been made to that end.


asked the Prime Minister what action is being taken by Her Majesty's Government following the demand of the African leaders that the illegal regime in Rhodesia should be replaced by 15th December.

None. We are already pursuing our political and eco- nomic measures with the utmost vigour but the setting of an artificial target date is unrealistic.


asked the Prime Minister what is the policy of Her Majesty's Government with regard to the reopening of negotiations with Mr. Smith concerning the future of Rhodesia.

I would refer the hon. Member to the statement I made in this House on 10th December.


asked the Prime Minister if he will now publish the full text of the letter written to Mr. Mutasa of Rhodesia, so that it may be annexed to the Command Paper relating to negotiations with the Rhodesian Government.


asked the Prime Minister what estimates were given him by Mr. Smith and by other Rhodesian Government spokesmen before the declaration of independence of the time to be taken before majority rule could be established in Rhodesia under the 1961 Constitution; and to what extent he has accepted these estimates as being correct.

Several estimates were put forward varying from 5 to 50 years. Mr. Smith referred to 15 to 50 years, but expressed the view that it was impossible to predict the period with any certainty. No estimate is valid, because the 1961 Constitution does not in itself guarantee unimpeded progress to majority rule.Mr. Smith's declared intention to abolish B roll seats would have further delayed majority rule.


asked the Prime Minister what further steps he proposes to take to establish contact with people representing various shades of opinion in Rhodesia.


asked the Prime Minister if he will make a statement on the response so far received by Her Majesty's Government from individual countries to the question of enforcing an embargo on oil supplies to Southern Rhodesia.

No. Consultations with other countries on this question are not yet complete and must, therefore, remain confidential for the time being.

Zambia (British Forces)


asked the Prime Minister what instructions have been issued to the local force commander in Zambia about the action he is to take in the event of attempts being made to deprive Southern Rhodesia of electricity by sabotage of the plant or of the distribution network in the immediate vicinity of Kariba.

None, because the sole purpose of the Javelin force now in Zambia is to provide defence against hostile intrusion into Zambian airspace.

Engineering Standards And Standard Weights And Measures (Transfer)


asked the Prime Minister why he has transferred from the Board of Trade to the Ministry of Technology responsibility for engineering standards and for determining standard weights and measures.

Engineering standards are of great importance to the mechanical and electrical engineering industries for which the Ministry of Technology now has responsibility. Moreover, work on standards and the determination of weights and measures increasingly employs advanced technologies.

Nationalised Industries And Regional Development


asked the Prime Minister if he is satisfied with the present arrangements for co-ordinating the activities of the nationalised industries with the policies of those Departments concerned with regional development; and if he will set up a committee to review these arrangements.

The answer to the first part of the Question is "Yes", to the second part, "No".

Lord Beeching (Transport Co-Ordination Study)


asked the Prime Minister on what date he asked Lord Beeching, in carrying out his one-man study of transport co-ordination, if he would accept assessors who could represent all points of view.

My right hon. Friend the Minister of Transport put this question to Lord Beeching on 15th December, 1964.

Steel Industry


asked the Prime Minister if he will set up an interdepartmental committee to study the problems of the steel industry, regardless of the question of ownership.

No. But my right hon. Friend the Minister of Power is considering what useful work can be done on the problems of the steel industry in the interval to nationalisation.

Television Authorities (Ministerial Representations)


asked the Prime Minister if he has considered the evidence, submitted to him by the hon. Member for Poplar, on the subject of Ministerial representations to television authorities; and what action he is taking in consequence.

Programmed Instruction Techniques


asked the Prime Minister if he will ensure that all Government Departments concerned with training make use of the programmed courses in engineering apprenticeships, details of which have been sent to him, which cut by up to two years the normal five-year training period, in order to increase the supply of qualified people and to maximise the existing teacher-training facilities.

I take it that the hon. Gentleman is referring to programmed instruction techniques. If so, these are already well known to Government Departments who encourage their use wherever appropriate.

Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

Eggs (Prices)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food in view of the sharp increase in the price of eggs in recent weeks, if he will direct the Committee of Investigation of the Egg Marketing Board to consider this matter and report to him.

Egg prices always tend to be at their highest in the autumn as a result of seasonal factors and the quantity of eggs currently available for sale by the Board is at a relatively low level. The Board's selling prices reflect this situation.My colleagues and I have no power to direct the Committee of Investigation appointed under the Agricultural Marketing Act to consider a matter of this kind except in consequence of a report to us from the Consumers' Committee, which has a general responsibility under the Act to consider and report on the effect of marketing schemes on consumers.

Home Department

Dentifrices And Mouthwash Tablets (Sodium Fluoride)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will publish the report of the Poisons Board arising from their consideration of sodium fluoride in dentifrices and mouthwash tablets.

The proceedings of the Poisons Board are confidential. The Board considered this matter in 1961 and 1962, and in accordance with its recommendations dentifrices and mouthwash tablets containing sodium fluoride may be sold freely provided that they contain not more than 0·3 per cent. and 0·2 per cent. of sodium fluoride respectively.


asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how the figure of true crime compares with that of detected crime for the past five years.

The best available estimates of true crime and of detected crime are the number of indictable offences known to the police and the number of such offences cleared up. The figures are as follows:

YearNumber of indictable offences known to the policeNumber of indictable cleared upColumn (3) expressed as a percentage of column(2)

Court Proceedings (Press Reporting)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he is aware that the expressed view of the Tucker Report relating to proceedings before examining justices was that reporting before the trial has ended of nationally sensational cases before magistrates was undesirable and impaired public confidence in the administration of justice; whether he is aware that there is concern that reporting of murder cases before magistrates is continuing; and whether, since the recommendation restricting reports of proceedings before examining justices was accepted by Her Majesty's Government in January, 1965, he will now introduce legislation implementing the recommendation.

I regret that I cannot say when it will be possible to introduce legislation on this matter.

Ministry Of Labour

Elderly Unemployed Persons (East Hampshire)

asked the Minister of Labour if he is aware of the difficulties facing middle-aged and more elderly workers in finding work in East Hampshire; and what steps he is taking to bring suitable employment to the area.

On 12th July, 1965, 198 men over 45 were registered as unemployed in the East Hampshire area. Of these, 119 were over 60. This lends weight to reports from my local offices that in the main the people affected are occupational pensioners whose normal jobs are closed to them. Most of these are qualified only for sedentary work. The second part of the Question is a matter for my right hon. Friend the President of the Board of Trade.

Unemployed Persons (Petersfield)

asked the Minister of Labour what are the latest available figures of persons registered as wholly unemployed in the Petersfield constituency employment exchange; and what percentage of the working population those figures represent.

Age Groups in July, 1965
Employment Exchange areaUnder 1818 and under 2020 and under 2525 and under 3030 and under 3535 and under 4040 and under 4545 and under 5050 and under 5555 and under 6060 and under 6565 and overTotal

Redundant Workers (Notice And Compensation)

asked the Minister of Labour if he will seek power to ensure that, in the process of monopolistic takeover, employees of long standing are not dismissed on short notice and on receipt of an ex-gratia payment.

The Contracts of Employment Act 1963 provides for minimum periods of notice on termination of employment, and the Redundancy Payments Act 1965 for lump-sum compensation on redundancy. Where a business is transferred and employees remain with the new employer continuity of employment is preserved in relation to rights under both Acts.

Gambling (Expenditure)

asked the Minister of Labour what was the estimated amount spent on all forms of gambling in each of the last 10 years.

Statistical information about money spent on betting and gaming is not comprehensive and estimates are subject to considerable margins of error.

On 6th December, there were 133 persons registered as wholly unemployed at the Petersfield Employment Exchange representing 1·3 per cent. of the estimated number of employees in the area.

asked the Minister of Labour if he will publish the figures of registered unemployed in the Petersfield constituency, by age groups.

I regret that figures are not available for the Petersfield constituency. The following table gives the information for the areas of the Alton and Petersfield Employment Exchanges which together comprise the greater part of the constituency.For this reason a series of figures for each of the last ten years could mislead. Estimates of consumers' expenditure—that is to say stakes less winnings—on gambling are for 1955, £80 million and for 1964, £170 million.

House Of Commons Library (Staff)

asked the Lord President of the Council if he is aware that, because of the lack of recruitment of adequate staff for the manning of the House of Commons Library, certain indexes are not being kept up to date; and what steps are being taken to recruit more staff so as to enable the Library to supply the service which hon. Members require.

The Library Sub-Committee of the Select Committee on House of Commons (Services) will be urgently considering the services to be provided by the Library and the numbers and qualifications of the staff needed to fulfil them.

Overseas Development

Leeward Islands

asked the Minister of Overseas Development what financial assistance she is proposing to furnish by means of development grant to the Leeward group of islands, in order that they may rapidly provide basic services so as to enable them to move more quickly towards a state of economic self-sufficiency.

Under the Overseas Development and Service Act, 1965, I have made allocations for the Leward Islands —Antigua, St. Christopher-Nevis-Anguilla and Montserrat—for the three years 1965 to 1968, totalling £1,955,000, including unspent balances from the previous period. The Governments of the Islands concerned have been notified.

Tanzania—Zambia Railway (Survey)

asked the Minister of Overseas Development why a new survey of the proposed Tanzania—Zambia railway is required, in view of the existing ground and air survey started in 1952 including a staking out of part of the route.

The Zambian and East African Governments required an up-to-date economic and engineering study for the proposed rail link. The study will take full account of surveys previously carried out.

Pensions And National Insurance

Retirement Pensions (Republic Of Ireland)

asked the Minister of Pensions and National Insurance if she is aware of the imbalance of pension payments to persons who have given long public service to this country but who are now resident in Eire; and to what extent negotiations are in progress, or envisaged, between Her Majesty's Government and the Government of Eire to establish a reciprocal arrangement in such payments so as to avoid hardship to such persons.

National Insurance pensions in payment to persons living outside the United Kingdom are not increased when pensions in this country are increased, unless the pensioner lives in a country with which there is a reciprocal agreement modifying this rule. The existing reciprocal agreement with the Irish Republic does not cover retirement pensions but negotiations for a new social security agreement are at present proceeding.

War Disability Pensioners (Age Allowance)

asked the Minister of Pensions and National Insurance what representations she has received from the British Legion about the demand for age allowance to be made to persons with a war disability pension of less than 40 per cent.

The British Legion has urged from time to time that the age allowance should be extended in this way. I am sending the hon. Member a copy of a resolution on the point passed by its Annual Conference this year and of our reply to it.

Telephone Service

Telephone Exchanges, Hampshire (Capital Equipment)

asked the Postmaster-General what items of capital equipment, on order for Hampshire telephone exchange and valued at £1,000 and over are more than one month, three months, six months and one year overdue on their contractual dates of delivery; and whether he will specify the names of the firms concerned.

There are four major exchange projects in Hampshire where the contractual completion is at present overdue by more than one month; none is overdue by more than three months. I do not think it would be fair to name the three contractors concerned.

Post Office

Postal Services (Swindon And Bristol)

asked the Postmaster-General what reply he has sent to the letter dated 1st December, 1965, from the hon. Member for Swindon; and what steps he proposes to take to improve the postal services to and from Swindon, particularly between Swindon and Bristol.

I have written to my hon. Friend today in reply to his letter of 1st December. My inquiries suggest that we are giving a good postal service between Swindon and Bristol, but the postal services generally have for some time not been as good as we should like largely because of staff shortages at some of our key offices. We are doing all we can to recruit more staff and after Christmas we shall, with British Railways, see what more can be done to speed up the transit of parcel mails.

Wireless And Television

Television Programmes (Supervision)

asked the Postmaster-General, in view of the necessity to encourage the virtues of purity and dignity in this country, if he will introduce legislation to amend the British Broadcasting Corporation Licence and Agreement in order to oblige the British Broadcasting Corporation to exercise stricter supervision over television programmes.

WomenTotalPercentage of Women
Scottish Probation Advisory and Training Council52025
After Care Council41625
Scottish Economic Planning Council0250
Consultative Committee on the Curriculum42317
Regional Hospital Boards—
(i) Re-appointed members42417
(ii) New members2219·5
Livingston Development Corporation1812·5
Scottish Tourist Board*0170
Central Advisory Committee for Scotland on Justices of the Peace†1147
Red Deer Commission0130
Scottish Advisory Council on Child Care61833
Highlands and Islands Development Board060
* The Secretary of State nominates 3 members of a board of 18; one of these places is vacant.
† The Secretary of State appoints the chairman and two other members; one of the latter is a woman.

Edinburgh University (Computer Requirement)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland when a computer will be installed at Edinburgh University; what assistance he is giving towards the installation; and if he is aware that in the meantime members of

No. The Chairman and Governors of the B.B.C. who constitute the Corporation, already have a duty to exercise supervision over the programmes produced by their staff.


Public Bodies (Women Members)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what percentage of women members to total members is on the following committees appointed by him this year, namely, Scottish Probation Advisory and Training Council, After Care Council, Scottish Economic Planning Council, Consultative Committee on the Curriculum in Scottish Schools, Regional Hospital Boards, new and reappointed members, Livingston Development Corporation, Scottish Tourist Board, Advisory Committee on Justices of the Peace, Red Deer Commission, Scottish Advisory Committee on Child Care, and Highland and Islands Development Board; and what is the overall average percentage.

The following is the information:the computer department are leaving to take up appointments elsewhere.

I would refer the hon. Member to the Answer given on 1st December by my hon. Friend the Minister of State for Education and Science on the computer requirements of the universities.

Board Of Trade

Butter (Import Quotas)

asked the President of the Board of Trade which countries have been asked to increase or decrease their supplies of butter to the British market, and by how much, since March, 1964.

1st April, 1964–31st March, 19651st April, 1965–31st March, 1966
Basic QuotasSupplementary AllocationsBasic QuotasSupplementary Allocations
Irish Republic12,9054,50012,9056,000
New Zealand168,000*168,000*
North America23,000
South Africa2,1502,150
* So long as our imports remain subject to control, New Zealand and Australia have the right to send butter amounting to approximately 40 per cent. and 16 per cent. respectively of cur total imports, and supplementary allocations are not required to cover deliveries within these limits.

None. Imports of butter have been subject to quota arrangements since 1962 in order to prevent prices on our market from falling to the very low levels that had previously obtained from time to time. Basic quotas and supplementary allocations made in the last two quota periods are set out in the following table: