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Written Answers

Volume 831: debated on Friday 25 February 1972

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Written Answers To Questions

Friday, 25th February, 1972

Defence

Animals

asked the Minister of State for Defence how many animals were purchased by his Department during 1971–72, and of what breed; and for what purposes they were required.

Education And Science

Old Primary Schools

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science, in England and Wales what number and proportion of the pre-1903 primary schools which need replacement are in Norfolk; and how many school places this represents in total and as a proportion of the total.

According to returns from the Norfolk Local Education Authority, there are 285 pre-1903 primary schools in the county in need of replacement or improvement and not included in the building programme for 1971–72 or earlier years. These schools contain about 22,000 pupils. The figures

INDUSTRIAL ANALYSIS OF THE NUMBERS OF NOTIFIED VACANCIES FOR MALES REMAINING UNFILLED AT JANUARY, 1972, IN CERTAIN SCOTTISH COUNTIES AND IN GLASGOW AND EDINBURGH
AngusAyrshireDunbartonshireLanarkshire*Midlothian*RenfrewshireWigtownshireGlasgow travel-to-work areaEdinburgh, Leith and Portobello
Agriculture, Forestry and Fishing48113212
Mining and Quarrying4235125
Food, Drink and Tobacco531191831716
Coal and Petroleum Products111
Chemicals and Allied Industries1552155
Metal Manufacture11603273
Mechanical Engineering107451124611
Instrument Engineering55656
Electrical Engineering11303222829

represent about 5 per cent. and 2 per cent. respectively of the figures for England as a whole.

School Construction (Fire Prevention)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what particular advice is given to those responsible for new schools construction intended to ensure that the designs and materials used for new schools give the highest degree of fire prevention.

Guidance is given in the Department's Building Bulletin No. 7, a copy of which I am sending to my hon. Friend.

Employment

Vacancies (Scotland)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will break down into employment categories the unfilled male vacancies in January in the counties of Angus, Ayrshire, Dunbartonshire, Lanarkshire, Midlothian, Renfrewshire, Wigtownshire, and in the Cities of Glasgow and Edinburgh.

Angus

Ayrshire

Dunbartonshire

Lanarkshire

*

Midlothian

*

Renfrewshire

Wigtownshire

Glasgow travel-to-work area

Edinburgh, Leith and Portobello

Shipbuilding and Marine Engineering2111648164
Vehicles132232
Metal Goods not elsewhere specified3222628242
Textiles221711121102
Leather, Leather Goods and Fur 34354
Clothing and Footwear22231220
Bricks, Pottery, Glass, Cement, etc.1117
Timber, Furniture, etc.13106595
Paper, Printing and Publishing210144108
Other Manufacturing Industries541152162
Construction10286143721529563
Gas, Electricity and Water162162
Transport and Communication11122347582674
Distributive Trades241451527412112471
Insurance, Banking Finance and Business Services211482654623
Professional and Scientific Services339119661111863
Miscellaneous Services16131360622115556
Public Administration and Defence318344332342
Total, all industries and services130127619105411196735500

* The figures for Lanarkshire include the part of the county which is in the Glasgow travel-to-work area. The figures for Midlothian include Edinburgh, Leith and Portobello.

Incomes Policy

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what fresh consideration he is giving to incomes policy for both the public and private sector of industry, based on the priority of agreed and understood special cases.

The Government's policy is to achieve a progressive reduction in the general level of pay settlements in both the public and private sectors as the essential condition for greater price stability and economic growth. This does not rule out consideration of factors peculiar to particular cases, but the overriding need is to ensure moderation in pay settlements in the interests of the whole community. As regards an agreed policy the Government have made clear that they would welcome constructive proposals for an effective voluntary policy, and employers and unions are well aware of this.

Construction Industry

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what action he is taking to reconcile the statistics of unemployment in the construction industry with the shortage of craftsmen; and whether he will make a statement.

I would refer my hon. Friend to the reply given by my hon. Friend the Minister of State to the Question by my hon. Friend the Member for Cannock (Mr. Cormack) on 2nd February.—[Vol. 830, c. 148–9.] Sample inquiries are being carried out to identify any problems of "mismatch" between unemployed craftsmen and unfilled demands. An inquiry in depth in selected areas about the labour supply position of certain craftsmen is being commissioned.

For up-to-date information about current shortages we rely on employers in the industry to notify their precise needs to employment exchanges.

Nottinghamshire

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many unemployed persons there are in the administrative, professional and technical categories, respectively, in Nottinghamshire at the most recent date; and what further action he is taking to reduce the number out of work.

Occupational analyses of wholly unemployed men and women are made quarterly. At 6th December, 1971, there were 715 wholly unemployed people, 617 men and 98 women, registered at employment exchanges in Nottinghamshire for employment in administrative, professional and technical occupations. Information is not available for these occupational categories separately.I expect these workers to benefit from the extensive measures we have taken to reflate the economy.

Numbers Affected
Industry Groups197119701969 (2nd Half)
TotalMales includedTotalMales includedTotalMales included
Agriculture, Forestry, Fishing872417
Mining and Quarrying5885823503471,0911,077
Food, Drink and Tobacco3,8141,1762,71395617681
Coal and Petroleum Products
Chemicals and Allied Industries6432125423153333
Metal Manufacture2,1841,750 +411342390349
Mechanical Engineering11,2558,5715,8595,0052,1402,033
Instrument Engineering408230+480347
Electrical Engineering2,511870+1,69364527085
Shipbuilding and Marine Engineering1,5591,4911,6331,5841,3101,286
Vehicles1,9801,6691,3821,235290288
Other Metal Goods1,6021,213698526220138
Textiles3,6361,2934,8662,1751,022391
Leather, Leather Goods and Fur44586662913
Clothing and Footwear1,0403351,28121412340
Brick, Pottery, Glass, Cement etc.651590910857596568
Timber, Furniture etc.70562451446619186
Paper, Printing and Publishing1,7501,230656378163122
Other Manufacturing1,060680365241424257
Construction2,7372,6403,2273,0691,1231,083
Gas, Electricity and Water2722406236199291
Transport and Communication1,026955403375453441
Distribution Trades1,6655701,029373228149
Insurance, Banking, Finance and Business Services6120167293217
Professional and Scientific Services432371158952
Miscellaneous Services66929471125815589
Public Administration and Defence27098190324138

Lead Poisoning, Avonmouth (Committee Of Investigation)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether he will give the names of the members of the Committee appointed under the chairmanship of Sir Brian Windeyer to investigate lead poisoning at the Imperial Smelting Corporation, Avonmouth.

The names of the members are Mr. G. H. Beeby, Mr. S. A. Robinson and Professor A. C. Dornhorst.

Redundancies (Scotland)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many males and females, respectively, were notified as being redundant in Scotland, by industry groups, during the year 1st February, 1971, to 31st January, 1972; and what were the figures for the previous five years.

The information, so far as it is available, is given in the following tables, subject to the explanatory footnotes:

Numbers Affected

Industry Groups

1969 (1st Half)

1968

1967

1966

Total

Males included

Total

Males included

Total

Males included

Total

Males included

Agriculture, Forestry, Fishing733641281313
Mining and Quarrying1,4141,4014,2954,2845,6545,6422,9632,938
Food, Drink and Tobacco1,0023171,4741,0582,463968864346
Chemicals and Allied Industries17551541421621553962437
Metal Manufacture4614526706332,8032,6781,1991,105
Engineering and Electrical Goods1,8991,7474,9283,8566,5185,0593,7812,596
Shipbuilding and Marine Engineering8498341,9811,9732,8242,8032,7972,756
Vehicles4464406386102,1031,911
Other Metal Goods16584321123529352759448
Textiles119221,8735242,8148201,122459
Leather, Leather Goods and Fur32307422172622
Clothing and Footwear29729268261,227212535
Bricks, Pottery, Glass, Cement etc.185181563515398376838772
Timber, Furniture etc115103177141420332186151
Paper, Printing and Publishing3431561,4951,099806467551326
Other Manufacturing Industries3837647354244166224121
Construction 8037847557191,3311,3112,3232,286
Gas, Electricity and Water987721216560108108
Transport and Communication58584544381,0471,019484445
Distributive Trades332129995325706330441211
Insurance, Banking and Finance16463331444
Professional and Scientific Services7220369
Miscellaneous Services57018187429972422629086
Public Administration and Defence39377250250209

Notes

1. The figures given are not comprehensive since not all redundancies are notified to the Department.

2. The figures are compiled on the basis of "statistical months" and not calendar months. The years quoted are therefore from mid-December to mid-December.

3. A plus sign following a figure indicates that the precise male figure is not known.

4. The tables are split, due to the fact that a revised Standard Industrial Classification came into use in mid-1969.

Home Workers

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will list the trades or industries in which home workers are engaged and which are covered by the Wages Council Act, 1959; and if he will ensure that these occupations and the requirements affecting those concerned are given wider publicity.

Following is a list of wages council trades and industries in which homeworkers may be employed:

  • Dressmaking and Women's Light Clothing.
  • Corset.
  • Fur.
  • Hat, Cap and Millinery.
  • Retail Bespoke Tailoring.
  • Readymade and Wholesale Bespoke Tailoring.
  • Wholesale Mantle and Costume.
  • Shirtmaking.
  • Rubber-proofed Garment Making.
  • Lace Finishing.
  • Linen and Cotton Handkerchief and Household Goods and Linen Piece Goods. Made-up Textiles.
  • Ostrich and Fancy Feather and Artificial Flower.
  • Boot and Shoe Repairing.
  • Brush and Broom.
  • Button Manufacturing.
  • Paper Box.
  • Pin, Hook and Eye and Snap Fastener.
  • Rope, Twine and Net.
  • Toy Manufacture.
All employers known to be covered by a wages council are sent a notice of each relevant wages regulation order setting out the minimum rates which they are required to exhibit for the information of workers. Wider publicity would not be practicable.

Scotland And Wales

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what percentage of United Kingdom unemployment in each year since 1945 has been in, respectively, Scotland and Wales.

The current series of unemployment statistics started in July, 1948, and the following table is based on the annual average numbers registered as unemployed from 1949:

ANNUAL AVERAGE NUMBERS REGISTERED AS UNEMPLOYED IN SCOTLAND, AND IN WALES, EXPRESSED AS PERCENTAGE OF THE CORRESPONDING NUMBERS IN THE UNITED KINGDOM
ScotlandWales
per cent.per cent.
194918·410·8
195019·010·1
195119·08·9
195215·05·8
195316·97·3
195418·77·2
195519·36·5
195618·26·8
195716·27·1
195816·27·2
195918·57·1
196020·06·6
196118·26·6
196216·66·1
196317·15·9
196419·46·2
196518·27·2
196616·27·5
196714·16·7
196813·86·5
196913·66·7
197014·66·0
197115·25·4

Building Industry (Northern Region)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is the present number of unfilled vacancies for skilled workers in the building industry in the Northern Region.

The following is the information:

NOTIFIED VACANCIES REMAINING UNFILLED IN THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY FOR MEN AGED 18 AND OVER IN THE NORTHERN REGION AT JANUARY, 1972, ANALYSED BY OCCUPATION
Carpenter, joiner, shutterer93
Bricklayer122
Mason, stone carver3
Slater, tiler, thatcher, etc.4
Plasterer62
Floor and wall tiler, etc.2
Painter, decorator, signwriter34
Plumber, gas fitter, etc.24
Glazier3
Pavior, road etc. surface layer8

NOTIFIED VACANCIES REMAINING UNFILLED IN THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY FOR MEN AGED 18 AND OVER IN THE NORTHERN REGION AT JANUARY, 1972, ANALYSED BY OCCUPATION
Steel erector, sheeter
Electrician, cable jointer, linesman29
Mechanical handling plant, etc., operator5
Erector, millwright, maintenance fitter 2
All other occupations182
Total all occupations573

The statistics relate only to notified vacancies remaining unfilled and do not purport to measure the total unsatisfied demand for labour.

Environment

Public Transport (Research)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment (1) if he will undertake research into the provision in cities of public transport on an annual season ticket basis, on the lines of recent experiments in Helmstedt and Stockholm, details of which are in his possession;(2) if he will undertake research into the provision in cities of public transport on a flat fares basis;(3) if he will initiate studies into the provision of free public transport in cities, on the lines of recent experiments in Rome, details of which are in his possession.

I am at present conducting a project in Stevenage in partnership with the development corporation and London Country Bus Services which includes study of the effects of a flat fare and fare reduction. As part of a general survey of bus industry research, I am now considering what further studies should be made.

Yorkshire Dales National Park

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he is still considering the case for a Yorkshire Dales National Park.

Under my proposals, this national park will be administered by a single executive committee of the counties concerned. A further letter is being sent to the hon. Member explaining the improvements I propose in the financing of national parks.

River Pollution Survey (Exhibition)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will arrange for an exhibition of material illustrating the River Pollution Survey to be shown in the House of Commons.

My right hon. and learned Friend the Secretary of State for Wales and I have arranged for an exhibition illustrating volume 1 of the River Pollution Survey, 1970, to be shown in the Upper Waiting Room from Monday, 28th February to Friday, 3rd March. My right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Scotland has contributed material for Scotland.

National Finance

Undeveloped Land (Annual Tax)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will seek to introduce an annual tax on undeveloped land for which planning permission has already been granted, in order to discourage speculative hoarding.

GROSS OFFICIAL
GNP PER CAPITABILATERAL ECONOMIC AIDMULTILATERAL FLOWS
millions US dollarsmillions US dollars
GNP per capita US$IBRD1FCIDAUN
196919701968196819681969
Africa—North of Sahara
Algeria2600·074CR 6·777·39
Libya1,5100·012CR 4·001·05
Morocco1900·0379·21CR 0·601·103·71
Tunisia2300·1745·03CR 0·303·634·94
ARE (Egypt)1600·808CR 4·009·33
Total1·107CR 0·53CR 0·904·7326·42
Africa—South of Sahara
Angola210
Botswanaless than 1006·707CR 0·011·13
Burundiless than 1000·002CR 0·260·401·73
Cameroon1500·8200·032·231·52
Cape Verde Is.120
Central African Rep.1300·0591·29
Ceuta and Melilla320
Chadless than 1000·0820·69
Comoro Is.130*0·06
Congo (Brazzaville)2200·00715·001·28
Dahomeyless than 1000·0471·22
Ethiopialess than 1001·1060·923·504·153·06
Gabon3200·033CR 3·191·65
Gambia1100·9590·21

The Government's policy for securing the release of land for housing was stated in an answer by my hon. Friend the Minister for Local Government and Development on 8th December, 1971. I am not convinced that the results of a tax of the sort suggested in the Question would justify the considerable valuation and administrative problems it would involve.—[Vol. 827, c. 1287–8.]

Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs

Africa (Income And Aid)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will list in the OFFICIAL REPORT the latest United Nations estimates or other estimates from international sources of income per head of population for each country in Africa, and the amount of development aid given to each country by Her Majesty's Government and international bodies of which the United Kingdom is a member.

The information, for the latest year available in each case, is as follows:

GROSS OFFICIAL
GNP PER CAPITABILATERAL ECONOMIC AIDMULTILATERAL FLOWS

millions US dollars

millions US dollars

GNP per capita US$

IBRD

1FC

IDA

UN

1969

1970

1968

1968

1968

1969

1969

1970

1968

1968

1968

1969

Africa—South of Sahara (cont.)

Ghana19013·170CR 1·020·032·98
Guinealess than 1000·0010·231·64
Guinea (Equitorial)290
Guinea (Portuguese)260
Ivory Coast2400·084CR 0·501·16
Kenya13026·6375·101·408·253·18
Lesotholess than 1001·5671·491·35
Liberia2000·0980·251·16
Madagascar1100·152CR 2·001·611·79
Malawiless than 10018·5012·160·95
Maliless than 1000·0081·762·17
Mauritania1400·001CR 5·932·300·730·51
Mauritius2304·064CR 0·46CR 0·10CR 0·900·80
Mozambique210
Nigerless than 1000·0280·0631·90
Nigerialess than 10027·17222·774·665·63
Republic of Zaireless than 1000·141CR 10·766·51
Reunion660
Rhodesia2400·377CR 4·540·03
Rwandaless than 1000·0130·92
Sao Tome and Princine310
Senegal2000·1560·550·700·442·33
Seychellesless than 1004·0290·06
Sierra Leone1702·237CR 0·130·97
Somalialess than 1000·4901·423·27
Spanish Sahara270
Fr. Terr. Afars and Issas600

*

St. Helena and Deps.1·0300·47
Sudan1101·6748·26CR 0·102·98
Swaziland1805·3680·640·38
Tanzanialess than 1004·873CR 2·214·523·05
Togo1000·0491·54
Uganda11011·886CR 0·36CR 0·301·340·88
Upper Voltaless than 1000·0010·47
Zambia2906·164CR 1·760·90
Other and unallocated3·736CR 4·00
EAC2·349
Botswana, Lesotho, Swaziland0·029
Rhodesia, Malawi, ZambiaCR 0·001
Unspecified Africa0·009
Total145·91616·637·4035·3863·35
Total Africa147·12216·106·5040·1189·77
… Figures not available.

* 0·06 = combined figure for Comoro Is., Afars and Issas, St. Pierre et Miquelon, French Polynesia, New Caledonia, Wallis and Futuna.

† Less than half the final figure shown.

Sources:—DAC Return 1970 Tbls. 2 a and 2 b.

World Bank Atlas—estimates.

DAC Financial Flows 1968.

IBRD = International Bank for Reconstruction and Development.

IFC = International Finance Corporation.

IDA = International Development Association.

UN = United Nations Agencies (part).

European Economic Community

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs why European Economic Com munity Regulation of 27th February, 1970, is shown as 377/70 on page 113 of Part 16 of the European Communities secondary legislation and as 377/79 on page 3 of the Contents of Part 16.

This is a typographical error. The entry on page 3 of the contents of Part 16 of the pre-accession series of English texts of secondary legislation of the European Communities should read "377/70".The 42 volumes of Community secondary legislation published in the pre-accession series of English texts contain a number of minor errors, which will be corrected by the issue of an errata volume shortly.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs why regulation 136/67 of the European Economic Community is not shown in Part 34 of the European Communities secondary legislation, as indicated on page 64 of Part 42.

The entry on page 64 of Part 42 should refer to regulation 137/67 which duly appears in part 34 of the pre-accession series of English texts of secondary legislation of the European Communities.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs (1) why Regulation 2224/70 of the European Economic Community is not shown in Part 36 of the European Communities secondary legislation, as indicated on page 66 of Part 42;(2) why Regulation 163/67 of the European Economic Community is not shown in Part 36 of the European Communities secondary legislation, as indicated on page 66 of Part 42.

The entries on page 66 of Part 42 of the pre-accession series of English texts of secondary legislation of the European Communities relating to regulations 2224/70 and 163/67 should refer to Part 23 where the regulations in question duly appear.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs why the decision of the European Economic Community of 18th July, 1962, relating to an advisory committee on fresh and processed fruit and vegetables is not shown in Part 28 of the European Communities secondary legislation, as indicated on page 22 of Part 42.

Although a single misprinted entry on page 22 of Part 42 of the pre-accession series of English texts of secondary Legislation shows the European Economic Community decision of 18th July, 1962, as appearing in Part 28, five other entries on this page refer to Part 17 where the decision in question duly appears.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if Regulation 7b of 18th December, 1959, in Part 17 of the European Communities secondary legislation is the same as Regulation R 76/EEC of 18th December, 1959, on page 3 of Part 42; and what is its correct designation.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs why the Consultative Committee referred to in Decision 64/18 of 19th December, 1963, of the European Economic Community is referred to as an Advisory Committee in Decision 70/284 of 15th May, 1970.

The difference is a matter of translation. The formal English language title of the Committee will be resolved in due course with the Communities.

Home Department

Licensing Law Reform (Erroll Committee)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many organisations have made submissions to the Erroll Committee on licensing law reform.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he can now give a more precise indication of when he expects to receive the report of the Erroll Committee on licensing law reform.

I have nothing at present to add to the reply which I gave to a Question by the hon. Member on 24th November, 1971.—[Vol. 826, c. 406.]

Patricia Brown

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he intends to remove Patricia Brown, a 14-year-old girl, from Holloway Prison.

This is not within my right hon. Friend's discretion. The court sent this girl to Holloway prison when committing her for trial at the Central Criminal Court because it considered that she was of so unruly a character that she could not safely be committed to the care of the local authority. There has been no application for bail.

Scotland

Hernia Operations

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many persons are on the waiting list for hernia operations within the area covered by the Western Regional Hospital Board; and what is the average waiting time for each person in each of the boards of management.

Information in this form is not readily available. If the hon. Member has a particular waiting list in mind and lets me know, I shall try to provide information about it.

Prevention Of Crime

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what action he is taking to make the prevention of crime in Scotland more effective; and if he will make a statement.

The prevention of crime is a common objective of many authorities and services. In consultation with my right hon. and learned Friend the Lord Advocate, I have decided to set up a Scottish Council on Crime with the following terms of reference:

"To keep under review, in consultation with the Secretary of State, questions relating to the prevention of crime and the treatment of offenders in Scotland."
Lord Hunter, of the High Court of Justiciary, has agreed to be Chairman of the Council. The other membership will be announced later.

Holy Cross High School, Hamilton

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the completion date of the Holy Cross High School, Hamilton; and if he will make a statement indicating the recreational facilities to be provided in the school and its environs.

The main part of the extension at this school was completed in November, 1971, and I understand that Lanarkshire Education Authority expects a further phase to be completed by December, 1972. This will include a games hall, two gymnasia, showers and changing accommodation. Thereafter, the authority intends to remodel part of the old school buildings but has not yet fixed a starting date for this work.

Social Services

Mental Health Therapy (Registration)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will make a statement on the progress of his consideration of the need for registration of those involved in mental health therapy.

I have consulted the relevant professional organisations about the recommendation in the Foster Report that psychotherapy for reward should be restricted to suitably qualified persons, and am awaiting their views.

Prescription Charges

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how much his Department spent during 1971 on advertising the prescription charge season ticket.

Advertising

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how much his Department spent on advertising during 1971.

The Department spent £257,307 on television advertising and £736,896 on Press and other media advertising; plus £60,000 for Departmental staff recruiting.

Telephones (Housebound Persons)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what number of telephone installations have been granted by his Department to the housebound in the county of Nottinghamshire.

The provision of telephones for the housebound and others who are substantially and permanently handicapped is mainly a matter for local authorities, who have powers to help in appropriate cases. The Supplementary Benefits Commission will, however, use its discretionary powers to give extra help in a small number of special cases where a telephone would be the only means of communication in an emergency. The Commission has assisted one such case in the county since detailed records began to be kept in April, 1970.

Old People's Homes (Fuel Costs Compensation)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will provide financial compensation to old people's homes which incurred extra expenditure as a direct result of power cuts during the miners' strike.

No. I do not think that the scale of extra expenditure incurred by old people's homes calls for exceptional financial aid from the Government.

Middle Thames Water Board (Fluoridation)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether all the local authorities within the area of the Middle Thames Water Board have yet agreed to fluoridation; what his estimate is of the length of time it will take to secure implementation, once agreement is reached; and if he will make a statement.

Parts of three local health authorities are served by the Middle Thames Water Board—Berkshire, Buckinghamshire and Surrey. Buckinghamshire and Surrey are in favour of fluoridation of their water supplies but Berkshire have resolved against fluoridation on a number of occasions, most recently in February, 1971.The water board is not prepared to consider fluoridating its supply until all the local health authorities involved have agreed. As the water board has not prepared plans for a fluoridation scheme and because implementation times vary so much, it is not possible to estimate the length of time it would take to start fluoridation once the decision to do so had been taken.

Hospital Secretaries (Salaries)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when a decision will be made as to the revaluation of the salaries of hospital secretaries.

This is a matter for the Administrative and Clerical Staffs Whitley Council. I understand that the next meeting of the Council is due to be held on 15th March.

Attendance Allowance

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will consider granting discretionary powers to social security offices in the administration of granting attendance allowance where such cases marginally fail to qualify and could, in addition, be certified by the local family doctor as such a case.

No. It would be quite inappropriate for the Department's offices to have power to grant an allowance where the responsible authority, the Attendance Allowance Board, had decided that the statutory medical conditions were not satisfied.

Pensioners (Fuel Costs)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will consider granting additional financial aid to pensioners for heating as a consequence of increased costs to them caused by the miners' strike.

Yes. Supplementary pensioners and others who are within the scope of the Supplementary Benefits Scheme and have difficulty in meeting their fuel bills because they have had to use alternative and more expensive forms of heating during the miners' strike should consult their local social security office. Directors of social services have been informed of the arrangements.

Trade And Industry

Fuel Supplies (Imports)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what steps he is taking to ensure that, in the period immediately following the publication of the report of the Wilberforce Inquiry, irrespective of the result of that inquiry and its immediate effect on the present industrial dispute, substantial and sufficient supplies of imported coal and oil fuel shall be made available to the electricity generating industry and any other industries requiring urgent supplies of fuel not immediately available from domestic sources.

I refer my hon. Friend to my statement on Monday, 21st February. I am in close touch with the electricity supply and other industries, and also with the National Coal Board and the coal trade to ensure that urgent steps are taken to restore coal supplies quickly. Every effort is being made by those concerned to relieve the shortfall in supplies by imports. The oil companies are well on the way to restoring normal oil supplies to power stations.

Power Stations

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry (1) what is the capital cost of a modern coal-fired power station and the operating costs based on pre-Wilberforce cost of coal and estimated post-Wilberforce, assuming a 10 to 15 per cent. increase in the price of coal to the Central Electricity Generating Board;(2) what is the capital cost of a modern oil-fired power station, and the operating costs based on the exclusion of fuel oil tax, and specifying the number, rated capacity and location of these stations in the United Kingdom;(3) what is the estimated capital cost of a modern gas-fired power station, and the operating costs based either on the Hams Hall pilot plant or facilities that have been operating for a number of years in Europe;

(4) what is the number of nuclear stations supplying energy to the national grid, giving the rated capacity in each plant, type of reactor, date of commissioning, cumulated output and a list of those plants under construction or planned during the next five years, indicating dates of commissioning;

(5) what is the capital cost of a nuclear power station at the latest date for which figures are available amortised over a period of 20 years and alternatively over 30 years; and what is the operating cost of such a plant.

I am asking the Chairman of the Central Electricity Generating Board to provide my hon. Friend with such information as is readily available.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry (1) if, in view of the state of emergency, he will list the nuclear power stations in the process of construction and the nuclear power stations out of commission or partly in use because of technical difficulties; what was the originally scheduled time for commissioning of new stations; and what are the scheduled dates and the estimated costs for delays;(2) if, in view of the state of emergency, he will list the nuclear power stations generating electricity and at what cost compared to coal and oil installations; and at what percentage of capacity they are now operating.

No, but I will ask the Chairman of the C.E.G.B. to write to the hon. Member. Questions relating to Scottish power stations are, of course, a matter for my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Scotland.

Electricity Supplies (Rationing)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry when is the rationing and load shedding of electricity supplies likely to cease.

I cannot yet give a precise date since a number of factors are involved, such as the continuing rate at which existing stocks can be moved to power stations, a return to work by the coal miners, weather conditions and the continued co-operation of commercial and domestic consumers in using no more electricity than is strictly necessary. As for the partial removal of rationing for industry, the right hon. Member will be aware of the statement by my hon. Friend the Minister for Industry yesterday to the House.

Industrial Overlord

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if he will consider appointing an industrial overlord to supervise the urgent resumption of normal power and fuel supplies now that the miners' return to work is decided.

My hon. Friend will no doubt have seen that my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister has charged the Lord Privy Seal with ensuring that the full weight of the Government is behind the whole process of getting industry fully going again and restoring normal domestic life as quickly as possible.

Coal Industry Dispute (Fuel Supplies)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what steps he has taken since the end of power station picketing and the National Union of Mineworkers' recommendation to end the national coal stoppage to move coal stocks; to what extent he has increased oil and coal imports; if he has given further consideration to extending opencast mining and power station conversions; and if he will make a statement.

Strenuous efforts are being made by all concerned to move coal stocks as rapidly as possible and to increase imports to supplement available home supplies. The oil industry will continue to plan imports in relation to immediate needs and stock levels. Opening new opencast sites and conversion of power stations cannot affect output or consumption in the next few weeks.

Coal Stocks

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what are the most recent estimates of distributed stocks of coal, stating specifically the tonnages available to the Central Electricity Generating Board, the British Steel Corporation, the private sector of the steel industry, private industry and coal merchants.

I would refer the right hon. Member to the analysis of latest available figures issued by the Department in the statistical statements which are available in the Library of the House.

Lockheed Tristar

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what request for permission he has received from British European Airways to place an order for the Lockheed TriStar aircraft powered by the Rolls-Royce RB211 engine in order to benefit from the advantageous terms available up to and including 28th February.

State Of Emergency (Advertising)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if he will state the cost to date of Press and other advertising by his Department in connection with the State of Emergency and the power cuts.

The cost of Press and other advertising up to Friday, 25th February, is £125,300.

Hypermarkets

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry whether, in view of the widespread public interest in the matter, he will send an observer to the forthcoming Bolton conference on hypermarkets and out-of-town shopping centres.

My right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for the Environment is arranging for one of his officers to attend and I do not think it is necessary to send a separate observer from this Department.

Rb211

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what is his estimate of the additional costs of the RB211 programme caused by Rolls-Royce (1971) Limited having to renegotiate all subcontracts with the sub-contractors.

Some £30 million is likely to be added to the cost of producing the 555 RB211 engines for which the Government have a funding commitment. Renegotiation of sub-contracts was taken into account in the cost estimates for completing the programme which are contained in the Rolls-Royce White Paper.

Coal Industry (Safety)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if he will issue special advice concerning safe working of miners who return to work after the recent strike; and what assessment he has made of the additional hazards they face as a consequence of pits standing idle.

I understand that the National Coal Board has already issued detailed guidance. H.M. Inspectors of Mines and Quarries are well aware of local problems and will give all possible assistance at pit level. I am writing to the hon. Member about the second part of his Question.

Engineering

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what proposals for improving the status of engineering and of engineers in relation to the Feilden Committee Report on Engineering Design and following action by the Council of Engineering Institutions and the Council of Industrial Design; and if he will make a statement.

In November, 1970, we asked the Council of Industrial Design and the Council of Engineering Institutions to examine how they might increase the emphasis on engineering design in the activities of the Council of Industrial Design. Last May, an Engineering Design Advisory Committee was established with Mr. Feilden as Chairman. It has prepared a programme with these objects in mind and this is under active consideration. In addition, my right hon. Friend has authorised the C.O.I.D. to strengthen its senior staff by the appointment of an engineer specifically charged with expanding engineering activities. Implementation of these steps should lead to significant improvements to the standards of engineering design with benefits both to industry and engineers employed in this field.

Petroleum Production (Continental Shelf)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what are his plans for controlling the safety of petroleum production operations on the Continental Shelf.

We propose to replace the present control of safety under licences by regulations under the Mineral Workings (Offshore Installations) Act, 1971. Consultations with representative organisations are well advanced and we expect to bring forward the first commencement order accompanied by certain of the regulations very shortly.

North Sea Gas

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry (1) what is the present coal equivalent that North Sea gas provides in Scotland; and what is the projected figure for each year until 1980;(2) what forecast has been made of the coal equivalent that North Sea gas will provide in 1980; and what is the forecast for each year from 1973.

I decline to speculate on the amount of North Sea gas that will be available for use either in Scotland or elsewhere year by year up to 1980. The Gas Council has given some forecasts in its brochure "Natural Gas on Target", and the latest annual report of the Scottish Gas Board shows that from June, 1970, when natural gas first arrived in Scotland. to 31st March, 1971, 107 million therms (less than 0·5 m.t.c.e. of natural gas were received.

Natural Gas (Storage)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if he will make a statement on the possibilities of storing natural gas in underground salt cavities.

Natural gas is stored in leached out salt cavities abroad and a small storage of this kind, for town gas, has been successfully operated by the Northern Gas Board for a number of years. The gas industry is investigating the possibility of making use of this type of storage for natural gas.

Cotton Textiles (Import Licences)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what import licences will be issued for cotton textiles ordered from restricted countries before the announcement on 8th December, 1971, of the decision to keep import quotas in 1972.

The volume of such orders heavily exceeds the total 1972 quotas for a number of products and countries and I estimate that, if these goods were admitted, imports of cotton textiles from restricted countries would be about 8 per cent. higher than in 1971. This would undermine the purpose of the decision to retain quotas. I have, therefore, decided that licences can be issued in 1972 only up to the limit of the quotas, regardless of the date of ordering. I recognise that this will cause difficulties for British importers who had placed orders in good faith and also for some overseas suppliers. But I greatly regret that the circumstances I have described have made this decision inevitable. We are asking exporting countries which allocate the quotas to give priority to orders placed before 8th December, 1971. Exceptionally, licences outside the quotas may be issued in respect of orders placed before that date where I am satisfied that the goods cannot be obtained from United Kingdom sources.

Wales

Bowen Committee On Bilingual Signs

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what expenses have been incurred to date by the Bowen Committee on Bilingual Signs, stating separately the amount allocated to travelling expenses of that committee.

The estimated expenses are £3,300, including approximately £2,000 for travelling.