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Volume 977: debated on Thursday 24 January 1980

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Written Answers To Questions

Thursday 24th January 1980

Prime Minister (Engagements)

Q4.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 24 January.

Q5.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 24 January.

Q6.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 24 January.

Q7.

asked the Prime Minister whether she will list her official engagements for 24 January.

Q9.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 24 January.

Q12.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 24 January.

Q13.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 24 January.

Q14.

asked the Prime Minister whether she will list her official engagements for 24 January.

Q17.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 24 January.

Q20.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 24 January.

Q21.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 24 January.

Q23.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 24 January.

Q26.

asked the Prime Minister if she will state her official engagements for 24 January.

Q30.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 24 January.

Q31.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 24 January.

Q32.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 24 January.

Q33.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 24 January.

Q34.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 24 January.

I refer the hon. Members and my hon. Friends to the reply which I gave earlier today to the hon. Member for Dundee, East (Mr. Wilson).

Torness, East Lothian

Q8.

asked the Prime Minister if she will visit Torness, East Lothian.The Prime Minister: I have at present no plans to do so.

Shettleston

Q10.

asked the Prime Minister whether she will pay an official visit to Shettleston.

International Year Of The Child

Q11.

asked the Prime Minister if she willmake a statement on the Government's participation in the International Year of the Child.

Departmental Ministers have already given the hon. Member details of their own Department's participation in the year. The previous Government took the decision—with which we agreed—that the main national response should come from voluntary organisations concerned with children; and grants totalling £138,000, together with rent-free office accommodation, have been provided to enable the United Kingdom Association for the International Year of the Child to coordinate a national programme. The many hundreds of events organised up and down the country have, I believe, been outstandingly successful in focusing public attentionupon the needs and rights of children, and I welcome the opportunity of paying tribute to the achievements of the United Kingdom Association and all the organisations concerned. I understand the association is preparing a final report on the year, which we will study with interest when it is available.

South Africa

Q16.

asked the Prime Minister if she now envisages closer, political and military co-operation between the United Kingdom and South Africa.

Economic cooperation between the United Kingdom and South Africa continues at a satisfactory level and political relations are normal. We intend to use them to encourage greater change in the Republic. There is no military collaboration between the British and South African Governments.

European Economic Community (Departmental Co-Ordination)

Q18.

asked the Prime Minister if she is satisfied with the co-ordination between Government Departments in respect of the European Economic Community.

Freedom Of Information

Q19.

asked the Prime Minister what organisations have made representations to her in the last two months on the need to introduce legislation on the freedom of access to information.

Israel (Prime Minister)

Q22.

asked the Prime Minister when she expects to meet the Prime Minister of Israel.

I have no plans at present to meet the Prime Minister of Israel.

Family Assistance

Q24.

asked the Prime Minister what policies she intends to pursue to assist the family during the present period of economic difficulty.

Our policies are designed to improve the economy generally by increasing freedom and opportunity, and the whole community will benefit from them. Our policy of reducing as far as possible the level of personal taxation directly assists the great majority of families; those in particular need will continue to be given support through social security and other social service measures.

Epilepsy

Q25.

asked the Prime Minister if she will take steps to institute an international year of the epileptic.

I would expect people disabled as a result of epilepsy to play a full part in the International Year for Disabled Persons, particularly by encouraging a better public understanding of the problems of epilepsy.

President Carter

Q27.

asked the Prime Minister if she will invite President Carter to London in 1980.

As I told the hon. Member for Derby, North (Mr. Whitehead) on 16 January, I have already invited President Carter to visit this country and he has accepted. No dates have yet been fixed.

Ministers (Overseas Visits)

asked the Prime Minister what advice or instruction she has given to Cabinet Ministers and to other Ministers concerning whether or not they can, when travelling overseas on ministerical duties, be accompanied by their wives at public expense.

The expenses of a Minister's spouse when accompanying the Minister on the latter's official duties may on special occasions be paid from public funds, provided it is clearly in the public interest that he or she should accompany the Minister.

Cabinet Papers

asked the Prime Minister if she will publish in the Official Report the text of the current guidance on the availability to Ministers of one Administration of the papers of a previous Administration.

The guidance to officials on the availability to Ministers of one Administration of the papers of a previous Administration is as follows:"

Access by Ministers to Documents of a Former Administration

It is an established rule that after a General Election a new Administration does not have access to the papers of a previous Administration of a different political complexion. This rule applies especially to Cabinet papers.

The general principle is clear. An incoming Minister should not have access to any minutes or documents written by a predecessor of a different Party other than those which were published or put in the public domain by that predecessor; nor should he be told—whether directly or by access to departmental papers which would tell him—exactly what his predecessor had said. Moreover, it may be equally important to withhold papers which show the advice given by officials to the previous Minister even though there may be no indication on them of his views.

On the other hand, the national interest requires that there should be some continuity of policy. The arguments for continuity are stronger in certain fields than in others. Foreign policy is generally recognised as providing the classic example of a field in which continuity is important; but there are other fields in which some at least of the work of departments ought to continue on broadly the same lines as before. Under modern conditions it is not practicable for departments to make a completely fresh start with all their work.

There is no neat formula which can be used to reconcile the general principle with the practical considerations which sometimes point in the opposite direction. Departments use their discretion in making the best reconciliation possible in each individual case. It is one thing to give an incoming Minister a general account of the basis of departmental policy in a particular field under the preceding Administration and another to allow him to examine the particular personal views of his predecessor on certain points. On personal matters such as these, especially when the political content is high, a department is expected to be very discreet about what outgoing Ministers have said or thought. On the other hand there may be no objection to showing an incoming Minister, e.g. a report which his predecessor saw but on which action remains to be taken, or documents which were made widely available outside Government. It may be possible to draw a distinction between documents recording the way in which decisions were reached and documents announcing these decisions. The guiding line must be to avoid embarrassment to previous Ministers.

Nor can there be any standard action in those cases where departments feel that incoming Ministers have a need to know. Some papers, e.g. reports, may, if appropriate, be suitable for showing to new Ministers as they stand. In other cases, e.g. where the outgoing Minister was personally involved or expressed views on paper, the requirement can be met by preparing a summary of what was at issue and the action taken without showing incoming Ministers the actual documents which came before the previous Administration. In any instance (whether an individual case or not) where it is decided that papers of the previous Administration ought to be disclosed to a new Government, difficulty may be avoided if, as a matter of courtesy, the former Minister is consulted before this is done.

It is questionable whether in this context a distinction can be drawn between departmental papers about policy matters and those about individual cases. Individual case work often has a substantial political (if not policy) content, and the possibility of embarrassment could be just as real if a Minister were able to learn about the personal views of his predecessor on the handling of an individual case as it would be in matters of another kind. And, in any event, it is not easy in practice to draw a hard and fast line between case work, and policy. Although, therefore, it is a fair generalisation that papers on case work are less likely to cause difficulty than papers on policy, departments should nevertheless bear in mind the main objective—to protect Ministers from the political embarrassment that would arise if their successors saw documents that it was not appropriate for them to see."

asked the Prime Minister who authorised the guidance on availability of papers of one Administration to Ministers of a later Administration set out in the enclosure to her letter to the hon. Member for Islington, South and Finsbury dated 21 December 1979; and what consultation has taken place between Government and Opposition parties on that guidance.

The guidance and the conventions which it embodies have been accepted by successive Administrations of both parties for many years. The guidance has not been the subject of specific consultation between the parties. The basic rule was endorsed by the last Government in their reply of March 1978 to the eleventh report of the Select Committee on Expenditure (Cmnd. 7117.).

Trade

Pilotage Commission

asked the Secretary of State for Trade why there was no member of the Scottish Guild of Pilots appointed to the Pilotage Commission despite the fact that the 1977 report of the Advisory Committee on Pilotage recommended that appointees to this commission should have had wide experience of pilotage in its fullest physical sense and not merely as an administrator of a pilotage authority.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade if he will appoint a Scottish pilot to the Pilotage Commission; and if he will make a statement on the composition of the commission.

Members of the Pilotage Commission are not appointed as delegates of a particular interest or part of the United Kingdom. The appointments made were, however, carefully considered with a view to ensuring that the membership was balanced geographically and reflected a wide experience of pilotage, but it is not possible to appoint a pilot from each pilotage district. It is not intended to appoint any further members at the present time, but the composition of the commission will be kept under review.

Civil Aviation Authority

asked the Secretary of State for Trade if he is satisfied with the speed at which the Eurocontrol costs of the Civil Aviation Authority are being balanced by charges for this service.

No. At present the nominal rate of cost recovery is 90 per cent., but since charges are based upon actual costs in a past year, the revenue is seldom adequate to cover that percentage of the current costs. Furthermore, the Eurocontrol charge is in United States dollars, the value of which relative to the pound has declined since 1977. I hope that the rate of recovery in 1981–82 will be 100 per cent.; and that soon afterwards Governments will agree that the charges will be based upon budgeted costs for the year, instead of costs in a past year.

Units Of Measurement (Directive 5247/79)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade if he will make a statement about the circumstances in which an unsigned memorandum on the units of measurement directive 5247/79 was placed by his officials in the Vote Office at 8pm on 19 December 1979; and why it was not signed.

The memorandum was a simple factual note explaining a small change that had occurred in the text of this draft directive as a consequence of the Government's successful negotiations in respect of an existing EEC directive on the same subject.

Directive 76 / 770 / EEC, which was debated and approved by the House on 7 July 1976, required that a number of imperial units should cease to be authorised after 31 December 1979. In our view this was an unacceptable arrangement in the case of three units—the yard, square yard and therm—so I sought and obtained EEC agreement for these to continue in use in the United Kingdom. Since draft directive 5247/79 contains a tabulated list of the common imperial units whose future does not have to be reviewed before the end of 1989, that list had consequently to be extended to include the three additional units.

These were relatively minor amendments to a rather lengthy document, which were to be explained in debate by the Government spokesman. But on further consideration of the form of the motion it was thought that it would be helpful to the House if a short memorandum, describing these beneficial amendments were placed in the Vote Office at the earliest possible hour. In view of the particular circumstances, it was considered at officiallevel that there was no procedural requirement for the memorandum to be signed.

It is often a matter of fine judgment whether an explanatory memorandum should be provided to the House for a debate on EEC legislation where minor technical amendments—such as in this case those relating to scientific definitions of the candela and the sievert—have been made since the Select Committee's recommendation. Where such memoranda relating to more substantial amendments are provided, I have given instructions that in future they are to be signed by a Minister.

Quangos

asked the Secretary of State for Trade if he will list in the Official Report the names of bodies to which he appoints members, other than civil servants, that have been established since May 1979, giving the names of those appointed to each and the estimated annual cost in each case.

Since May 1979 my right hon. Friend has established the following bodies:

  • 1. The Pilotage Commission.
  • (a) Members: Dr. Denis Rebbeck, CBE (Chairman), Mr. G. W. Brimyard, Mr. G. S. C. Clarabut, DSO, DSC, Mr. K. Cooper, Mr. J. P. Davison, Capt. A. F. Dickson, Mr. B. I. Evans, Mr. H. Frith, Capt. P. F. Mason and Mr. N. C. Walker.
  • (b) Annual cost: The commission will not be financed from public funds, but will receive from public funds a small launching loan of no more than £50,000.
  • 2. National Metrological Co-ordinating Unit.
  • (a) Members: Councillors A. Hope, J. Jennings, M. E. Kerry, P. Cather, Mrs. Y. B. Jackson and County Councillors P. C. Price, B. H. Duggan and G. C. Waterer.
  • (b) Annual cost: The estimated cost of the unit for the financial years 1979–80 and 1980–81 are £34,000 and £200,000 respectively. Thereafter the unit is to be funded out of the rate suport grant.
  • Gatwick Airport

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade (1) what is his estimate of the amount of population that would be displaced by the construction of a second runway at Gatwick airport and of the amount of land that would have to be acquired for airport development;(2) what are the number and types of building and infrastructure which would be displaced by the construction of a second runway at Gatwick airport; and if he will estimate the cost of reproviding the roads and infrastructure displaced;(3) What is his estimate of the level of population which would be affected by certain noise levels, namely within 55 NNI, 50 NNI, 45 NNI, 40 NNI and 35 NNI, following the provision of a second runway at Gatwick airport;(4) what is his estimate of the numbers of sensitive land uses which would be expected to exist in 1991 within certain noise levels, namely 55 NNI, 50 NNI, 45 NNI, 40 NNI and 35 NNI, in the event of Gatwick airport then having two runways.

    Estimates could be made with any confidence only if detailed plans were available for providing a second runway at Gatwick. The British Airports Authority has no such plans, and my right hon. Friend made clear in his statement on 17 December that the possibility of constructing a second runway at Gatwick will not be pursued.

    Poland (Barley Sales)

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade if he will issue a directive to the Export Credits Guarantee Department to discontinue forthwith negotiations for provision of credit to finance the sale of $30 million of barley to Poland in view of the United States Government's embargo on grain sales to the USSR.

    The decision to supply grain to Poland was taken in August last year. In common with our Allies, including the United States, we are continuing to supply grain to Poland while taking steps to ensure that such sales are not diverted to the USSR.In these circumstances it would not be appropriate to withdraw ECGD support for these exports.

    Home Department

    Fourth Television Channel

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what response he has made to the Incorporated Society of British Advertisers and the Institute of Practitioners in Advertising with regard to their representations for competition in the selling of air time for the fourth television channel.

    I have met the president and the representatives of the Incorporated Society of British Advertisers and have considered carefully the points that they have made to me in favour of competitive selling of advertising on the fourth channel. I remain convinced, however, that competitive advertising on the two channels would inevitably result in a move towards concentration on maximising the audience for programmes, with adverse consequences for both of the commercial channels and before long for the BBC as well.

    Electoral System (Reform)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will reconsider whether to propose a Speaker's Conference on possible changes to the electoral system; and what are his proposals for discussing reform of the electoral system.

    As soon as I have completed my general review of electoral law and procedures I shall consider what changes appear to be necessary and how best to proceed.

    Alcoholics (Treatment)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Deparement if he is satisfied with the current facilities for the treament of alcoholics who are convicted of criminal offences; what are his proposals for the future; and if he will make a statement.

    Treatment facilities for alcoholics who are offenders but are not in custody are a matter for my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Social Services. With regard to those in custody, in addition to specific facilities for treatment at three prisons, all prisons have medical officers—many of whom have psychiatric qualifications or experience; many prisons have visiting psychiatrists; and most have an Alcoholics Anonymous group. The position will be kept under review.

    Illegal Immigration

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he is satisfied with the arrangements to prevent illegal immigration through overstaying.

    Developing the effectiveness of the arrangements to counter overstaying is an objective to which the Government attach importance. The introduction of a computer later this year should improve the efficiency of the selective checks made on the departure of people here temporarily. Further progress will depend in part on the resources available in both the Home Office and police forces for following up cases of suspected overstaying. The immigration service has recently been devoting more time to assisting the police in such inquiries.

    Sentencing Policy

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if, further to his statement on the May report, Official Report, 31 October 1979, column 1241–44, he will outline the alternatives to custody which his Deparrtment is considering; and what new projects are being established to this end.

    I am continuing to improve and develop the range of non-custodial alternatives to prison. In particular, I am arranging for new senior attendance centres to be opened for young adult offenders and I am consulting the probation service about how greater use could be made of the probation order as an alternative to custody. Within the limits of available resources, I am also encouraging further provision of day centres, accommodation and other facilities, within both the statutory and the voluntary sector, to aid the diversion of petty offenders from custody and to assist with the rehabilitation of ex-offenders.

    Detained Persons (Deaths)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will give such information as is available concerning the number of deaths in police custody for each year since 1970 in France, Germany, Italy, Benelux, the United States of America and Sweden.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if, in the light of the decision of the Director of Public Prosecutions not to prosecute in the case of James Kelly, he will now make available the report of Mr. David Gerty which was the police evidence submitted to the Director of Public Prosecutions in this matter.

    Prisoners

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if, under the prison rules, a prisoner in one of Her Majesty's prisons has the right to consult a solicitor; and by what authority and in which circumstances such a right may be withdrawn.

    Under prison rule 34(8) a prisoner is not entitled to communicate with any person in connection with any legal or other business except with the leave of the Secretary of State. Prison rule 37A(4) provides that, subject to any directions of the Secretary of State, a prisoner may correspond with a solicitor with a view to taking civil proceedings. In general this means that a prisoner is allowed, on application to the governor, to consult a solicitor for this purpose. Where his request concerns a complaint against the Home Office or any of its staff in connection with his imprisonment, prison standing orders 17A5 and 6 preclude him from consulting his solicitor until the complaint has been ventilated through the normal internal channels and he has received a definitive reply to it. Thereafter he is allowed to write to his solicitor. Under standing order 17B a prisoner is not allowed to consult a legal advisor with a view to initiating a private criminal prosecution. A copy of prison standing orders has been placed in the Library of the House.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if, under the prison rules, a prisoner in one of Her Majesty's prisons has the right of correspondence with persons outside the prison; and by what authority and in what circumstances a prison's letter may be withheld from the post.

    Under rule 34 of the prison rules, any prisoner is entitled to communicate with relatives or friends. A convicted prisoner is entitled to send and receive a letter on his reception into prison and thereafter once a week. Rule 33 of the prison rules allows the Secretary of State to impose restrictions on communications between prisoners and other persons, and governors to stop letters. The circumstances in which the Secretary of State and governors exercise their powers are set out in section 5 of prison standing orders, a copy of which has been placed in the Library of the House.

    Metropolitan Police

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will make a statement about corruption in the Metropolitan Police.

    The Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis, with my full support, is determined to deal effectively with any allegations of corruption in the Metropolitan Police. Such allegations will continue to be thoroughly investigated in accordance with the procedures prescribed by Parliament, and where justified by the evidence criminal and disciplinary proceedings will be taken against offenders. Anyone who has information about alleged corruption should bring it to the Commissioner's attention immediately.

    Home Department

    Quangos

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will list in the Official Report the names of bodies to which he appoints

    Name of bodyName of members appointedEstimated annual cost
    Joint Committee for Refugees from VietnamSir Arthur Peterson, K.C.B., M.V.O. (Chairman).£55,000 (in 1979–80)
    Advisory Committee on Animal Experiments (replaces Advisory Committee on the administration of the Cruelty to Animals Act 1876)Mrs. Mary Warnock (Chairman) (other members will be appointed shortly).£1,000

    Mixed Detention Centres

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department where the mixed detention centres are to be located; and what is the number of each sex involved and the age ranges.

    There are no plans for mixed detention centres. The hon. Member may have in mind the proposal to open three boys' attendance centres to girls on an experimental basis. These centres are at Lichfield, Nottingham and Hull, and will be available for girls and boys aged 10 and under 17. The numbers attending will depend on the number of orders made by the courts.

    Immigration Rules

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what assessment he has made of the impact of the proposed new immigration rules on cities, such as Leicester, which have substantial immigrant populations.

    It is not possible to forecast the impact of the proposed new immigration rules on particular cities.

    Charity Commissioners

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will now reply to the report of the Expenditure Committee on the Charity Commissioners and their accountability.

    The Government have considered the report by the Expendi- members, other than civil servants, that have been established since May 1979, giving the names of those appointed to each and the estimated annual cost in each case.

    The information is as follows:ture Committee on the Charity Commissioners and their accountability published in September 1975 and have also taken into account the conclusions reached by Lord Goodman's committee on charity law and voluntary organisations, which was set up by the National Council of Social Services and reported in December 1976.The Government appreciate the useful work done by both Committees in examining a wide range of issues relating to charity law and administration. It is now over four years since the Expenditure Committee reported and three years since the Goodman committee reported. Their proposals need to be viewed in the light of the Government's current policies.The Government recognise that charitable trusts occupy a special position in our law and that special privileges attach to charitable status. We believe that the concept of charity in the legal sense remains valid and useful since it both reflects and encourages a spirit of benefaction and public service whose continuance is of great importance to society. The Government do not consider that there is at present a need for changes in the law on charitable status or in the administrative practices relating to charities. We do, however, set great value on the contribution made by voluntary organisations and volunteers to the provision of a wide range of services and facilities that are essential to the wellbeing of society. We are considering how best we may, within the present financial restraints, encourage the development of the voluntary sector as a whole, and in that context we are paying particular attention to the Goodman committee's recommendations relating to fiscal matters.

    Overseas Development

    United Nations Relief And Works Agency

    asked the Lord Privy Seal whether it is the intention of Her Majesty's Government to make a contribution to UNRWA in 1980; and when an announcement is likely to be made.

    Her Majesty's Government intend to contribute to the 1980 budget requirement of the United Nations

    Name of BodyMembers appointedEstimated annual costRemarks
    St. Vincent Drilling Ltd.R. A. Dingwall-Smith, C.B
    J. G. N. Drummond.
    Committee of Inquiry into Local Government in Scotland.Rt. Hon. Anthony Stodart (Chairman).£40,000This Committee is expected to produce its Report by December 1980 and to be wound up thereafter.
    R. D. M. Bell, C.B.
    Professor A. W. Bradley, M.A., LL.B.
    I. S. Campbell, O.B.E., B.Com., J.P.
    K. J. Clark, M.A., LL.B., J.P.
    T. Clarke, J.P.
    D. Hodge, C.B.E., J.P.
    B. A. Meek, J.P.
    A. F. Mutch, J.P.
    Mrs. V. D E. Purvis, J.P.
    J. P. Rettie.
    L. M. Turpie, M.A., LL.B., J.P.
    The St. Vincent Drilling Ltd., a company owned 50 per cent. by me and 50 per cent. by the British National Oil Corporation was incorporated in May 1979 as a result of agreements entered into by the previous Administration for the ordering of a drilling rig from the Marathon Shipbuilding Company (UK) Ltd. St. Vincent Drilling has subsequently sold the rig and its activities have occasioned no net cost to public funds; it is now dormant and, as indicated in the White Paper "Report on Non-Departmental Public Bodies" (Cmnd. 7797), I plan to wind up the Government interest in it by 31 March this year.I also make appointments to the Farm Animal Welfare Council which is the primary responsibility of my right hon. Friend the Minister for Agriculture, Fisheries and Food.

    Royal High School, Edinburgh

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what the estimated costs in any one year are for the maintenance of the former Royal high school Relief and works Agency. It is hoped that an announcement as to the amount will be made in about four weeks time.

    Scotland

    Quangos

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will list in the Official Report the names of bodies to which he appoints members, other than civil servants, that have been established since May 1979, giving the names of those appointed to each and the estimated annual cost in each case.

    The information is as follows:in Edinburgh, including heating, security, building maintenance and the cost of staff employed at the buildings.

    I have been asked to reply.Heating, security and building maintenance costs are estimated at £71,500 for the year 1980–81.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland why tradesmen are still carrying out works at the former Royal high school in Edinburgh; and when such work will cease in view of the fact that there is no immediate prospect of these buildings being used.

    I have been asked to reply.The main contractors are carrying out final making good and remedial work. In addition, certain other external work has been necessary to tidy up the environment of this category A building. All this work will be completed next month.

    Defence

    Rapid Deployment Force

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what will be the extent of any British commitment to the setting up of a rapid development force by the United States of America;(2) what consultations he has had with Dr. Harold Brown, the American Defence Secretary, regarding the plans to form a rapid development force.

    The rapid deployment force is a purely American force and its setting up is, therefore, a matter for the United States Government. Although I have not discussed this with Dr. Brown, our officials will be keeping closely in touch over the coming months on this and other matters of common interest.

    Overseas Pilots (Training)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what areas in Scotland are used for training of pilots from countries which are not members of NATO; and what countries use the facilities.

    Pilots of foreign air forces undergoing flying training with the RAF make use of the same areas in Scotland as do RAF pilots on similar training courses or sorties. Pilots from India and Ecuador have been stationed with the RAF in Scotland and have trained there in 1979. Pilots from other non-NATO countries, based elsewhere in the United Kingdom, may have flown into Scotland occasionally on training flights, but it would require disproportionate effort to confirm this.

    Cyprus

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what was the total maintenance cost of British military bases in Cyprus for the years 1977, 1978 and 1979.

    The estimated costs of maintaining the British military bases in Cyprus for the financial years 1977 to 1979 are as follows:

    1977–78£42 million
    1978–79£48 million
    1979–80£50 million

    Quangos

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will list in the Official Report the names of bodies to which he appoints members, other than civil servants, that have been established since May 1979, giving the names of those appointed to each and the estimated annual cost in each case.

    Legal Aid

    asked the Attorney-General to what courts and tribunals and for what categories of legal matters he intends to extend legal advice and assistance under the green form scheme.

    Legal advice and assistance under the green form scheme is available, to those who are eligible, for all court and tribunal proceedings; such advice and assistance does not include representation. It is intended to extend the green form scheme to include representation in prescribed family proceedings in the magistrates' court as soon as possible.

    Quangos

    asked the Attorney-General if he will list in the Official Report the names of bodies to which he and the Lord Chancellor appoint members, other than civil servants, that have been established since May 1979, giving the names of those appointed to each and the estimated annual cost in each case.

    No bodies to which I or the Lord Chancellor appoint members have been established since May 1979.

    Housing Acts

    asked the Attorney-General when he expects to make a statement on the consolidation of the Housing Acts.

    The consolidation of the Housing Acts is a priority item in the Law Commission's second programme of consolidation and statute law revision. Work will begin as soon as the necessary resources are available and the law is in a sufficiently settled state.

    Police (Complaints)

    asked the Attorney-General how many complaints against police officers alleging assault were referred to the Director of Public Prosecutions for each year since 1970; how many in each year led to prosecution; what per-

    123456
    YearComplaints against police alleging assaultTotal number that were prosecutedPercentage of 2 represented by 3Total number of convictionsPercentage of 2 represented by 5
    19701,093191.7470.64
    19711,126272.4080.71
    19721,638352.14120.73
    19731,868191.0280.43
    19741,982301.51150.76
    19752,405471.95251.04
    19762,645331.25190.72
    19772,888401.39170.59
    19782,820*371.31160.57
    19792,572Figures not yet available
    * 34 complaints are outstanding.
    The last two questions concern penalties, records of which the Director of Public Prosecutions does not keep. Most pre-1974 files will have been destroyed, so that this information cannot be obtained from them. Whilst the information could be obtained from files of 1974 and onwards, this would require examining more than 39,000 files and the cost of doing so would be disproportionate to the value of the information.

    Civil Service

    Former Civil Servants (Employment)

    asked the Minister for the Civil Service, further to his reply to the hon. Member for Oldham, West of 14 January, Official Report, column 590–91, on what grounds the information on jobs taken by former civil servants is not made public; and if he will reconsider his decision not to provide this information.

    Successive Governments have decided not to make such information available for reasons of privacy. It is for those concerned to decide whether there should be any public announcement.

    centage of total complaints referred for that year alleging each of these prosecution totals represents; in how many cases each year prosecution led to conviction; what percentage of total complaints referred for that year alleging assault each of these convictions totals represent; what was the range of penalties imposed each year; and how many police officers were subject to each penalty.

    Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

    Quangos

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will list in the Official Report the names of bodies to which he appoints members, other than civil servants, that have been established since May 1979, giving the names of those appointed to each and the estimated annual cost in each case.

    The Farm Animal Welfare Council replaced, with extended terms of reference, the Farm Animal Welfare Advisory Committee in July 1979. For a list of members I refer my hon. Friend to the reply I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Plymouth, Drake (Miss Fookes) on 23 January. The estimated cost in 1979–80 is £53,000.

    Fishing Industry

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will publish the total amount paid to the White Fish Authority and the Herring Industry Board in levy charges by operators in the fishing industry, showing the amounts paid by operators in England, Scotland and Wales separately, for the years 1977, 1978 and 1979.

    GROSS LEVY INCOME RECEIVED IN CALENDAR YEARS
    White Fish AuthorityHerring Industry Board
    £
    197719781979197719781979
    England and Wales853,0001,038,0001,041,0001,174667665
    Scotland473,000495,000398,00039,83814,2971,983
    Northern Ireland3,0111,3591,679
    Imports***1,1593,4864,890
    Total1,326,0001,533,0001,439,00045,18219,8099,217
    * Levy paid to the White Fish Authority on imports is attributed to the country in which the payer is domiciled.

    Northern Ireland

    Nursery Education

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what is the total number of children attending nursery schools in each region of Northern

    Nursery schoolsPrimary schoolsOther schools (July 1978)
    Area Board(January 1979provisional)Nursery classesOtherPreparatory departmentsSpecial schoolsTotal
    Belfast1,0887202,794154374,793
    Western165973,32719163,624
    North-Eastern8892224,0415365,211
    South-Eastern5811183,1618553,950
    Southern5345923,9451505,086
    TOTAL3,2571,74917,2683266422,664
    No information is available on the total number of children under five in each education and library board area. However, in January 1979, in Northern Ireland as a whole, 18 per cent. of all children under five were in schools, of which 2·6 per cent. were in nursery schools.

    Quangos

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will list in the Official Reportthe names of bodies to which he appoints members, other than civil servants, that have been

    Estimated cost in 1979–80ChairmanMembers
    £
    Community Service Committee1,50019*
    Visiting Committee of the Young Offenders Centre, Hydebank Wood2,000116
    * 2 vacancies exist at present.
    The Community Service Committee was established under article 13(2) of the Treatment of Offenders (Northern Ireland) Order 1976 to superintend the working of the community service order scheme introduced on 1 April 1979.

    Following is the information. A further subdivision is not readily available.Ireland; and what percentage this represents of children under the age of five years.

    The following shows the numbers of children under five in nursery and other types of school in the five education and library board areas in Northern Ireland:established since May 1979, giving the names of those appointed to each and the estimated annual cost in each case.

    The names of such bodies, the number of appointed members and the estimated annual costs, are shown below.The Hydebank Wood visiting committee was appointed in May 1979 under the provisions of section 3 of the Treatment of Offenders (Northern Ireland) Act 1968 which requires a visiting committee to be appointed for each young offenders centre.

    I do not consider it appropriate to list the members' names.

    Energy

    North Sea Oil

    asked the Secretary of State for Energy, on the assumption that Saudi Arabian 34API at $24 a barrel is accepted as the market price, what he estimates would be the North Sea Forties price strictly related to that figure.

    Parity calculations based on a comparison of product yields at current Rotterdam prices and locational advantage produce a premium for Forties crude of between $3 and $4 over Middle East crudes such as Iranian light and Arab light. The value of North Sea crudes in the market place, however, is normally determined in relation to lighter, lower sulphur African crudes.

    Refineries (Nigg Bay And Canvey Island)

    asked the Secretary of State for Energy what is the status of projected refineries at Nigg Bay (Cromarty Petroleum) and Canvey Island (Occidental Petroleum).

    I understand that the refinery project at Nigg Bay has been placed in abeyance by Cromarty Petroleum, and the project on Canvey Island has been deferred indefinitely by Occidental.

    Quangos

    asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he will list in the Official Report the names of bodies to which he appoints members, other than civil servants, that have been established since May 1979, giving the names of those appointed to each and the estimated annual cost in each case.

    North Sea Oil (Participation Agreements)

    asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he will modify participation agreements to enable North Sea producers to use their own oil to meet their commercial commitments rather than being forced on to the spot market for additional supplies.

    As I have already announced—[Vol. 971, c. 891]—the Government have decided that BNOC's access to oil through participation options should be retained. I do not have it in mind to modify the relevant agreements, many of which contain saleback provisions.

    Statfjord Oilfield

    asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he is satisfied with the awarding of construction and service contracts in the Statfjord oilfield to date.

    asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he is satisfied with the bilateral agreements which operate in the North Sea Statfjord field, with particular reference to the procuring and taxing of materials and services.

    The agreement between her Majesty's Government and the Government of Norway which relates to the Statfjord field confines itself to the development of the field and the apportionment of the reserves of the field between the two countries as called for in the 1965 agreement on the delimitation of the United Kingdom and Norwegian continental shelves. It does not cover such matters as procurement or taxation of materials and services.

    asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he is satisfied with the design proposed for the Statfjord C production platform, with particular reference to the cost.

    The United Kingdom and Norwegian Statfjord licensees have yet to submit to their respective Governments full and updated development proposals, including proposals for a third platform. I cannot anticipate either the proposals or United Kingdom Government views on them.

    asked the Secretary of State for Energy what percentage holding the Government have, through the British National Oil Corporation, in the North Sea Statfjord field; what percentage of the operating staff on platform A are British and Norwegian, respectively; what proportion of the concrete base and steel deck and how many of the modules of platform A were prefabricated in Great Britain and Norway, respectively; what proportion of the concrete base and steel deck and how many of the modules of platform B are being or will be preconstructed in Great Britain and Norway, respectively; and what policy he intends to promote with regard to the proportion of construction work to be allocated to Great Britain and Norway on platform C.

    The British National Oil Corporation share in the Statfjord field is 5·30226 per cent. The operating staff on platform A breaks down to 95 per cent. Norwegian and 1·2 per cent. British. The concrete base and steel deck for the A platform were fabricated in Norway. Of the 20 modules for the platform, three were fabricated in the United Kingdom, 13 in Norway and four in Holland. On the B platform, the concrete base and steel deck are currently being constructed in Norway. The United Kingdom was unsuccessful in competing for the modules, 12 of which were awarded to Norwegian industry, the other six going to France. As regards the Government's attitude to the C platform, I have emphasised on each occasion I have met Norwegian Ministers the need to have a regime of international competitive bidding for the project within which competitive British companies might have the opportunity to enhance the United Kingdom's involvement in the project.

    Brecon BeaconsPembrokeshire CoastSnowdonia
    Number of access agreements completed since the Park was set upNil4Nil
    Number of access agreements completed during the last 5 yearsNil3Nil
    Number of access agreements currently under negotiationNil216

    Bridgend General Hospital

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales what is the proposed completion date for the new Bridgend general hospital; and whether the contractors are on target to date.

    asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he is satisfied with the policy Mobil Exploration Norway Inc., as the operating company in the North Sea Statfjord oilfield, is implementing with regard to employment of United Kingdom nationals; and, if not, whether he will ensure that the policy is made equitable.

    Since the Statfjord installations will be in Norwegian waters, be serviced from Norway and be subject to Norwegian employment regulations, it has to be recognised that the operator will seek to call heavily on Norwegian resources for manning the platforms during their operational life.

    Wales

    Planning Controls (Anglesey)

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he is proposing to designate Anglesey as an area for relaxation of planning controls within the Government's proposals.

    National Parks (Access Agreements)

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will list the number of access agreements that have been negotiated by each of the national parks in Wales during the last five years and since they were set up, together with the number of agreements currently being negotiated.

    The information is as follows:scheme, however, is on target for its planned start towards the end of 1980, and if all goes well completion can be expected by 1985.

    Radioactive Waste (Disposal)

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales what locations in Powys and Gwynedd are included in the geological research programme connected with the disposal of high potential radioactive waste.

    Only one area is involved, in the neighbourhood of the Dyfi Forest. I have arranged for a map showing the area to be deposited in the Library.

    Quangos

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will list in the Official Report the names of bodies to which he appoints members, other than civil servants, that have been established since May 1979, giving the names of those appointed to each and the estimated annual cost in each case.

    There are none for which my right hon. Friend has the prime responsibility.

    Social Services

    Outdoor Mobility

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how much was spent on outdoor mobility for the disabled in each of the years 1973–74 to 1978–79; and what is the projected expenditure for the current year and for each of the next two years.

    Following is the available information:

    TOTAL EXPENDITURE BY DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND SOCIAL SECURITY ON MOBILITY FOR DISABLED PEOPLE
    Financial year£million
    1973–7411·2
    1974–7513·1
    1975–7617·2
    1976–7726·2
    1977–7838·5
    1978–7965·7
    1979–80106·0*
    1980–81128·0*
    * Estimated.
    The estimates for 1979–80 and 1980–81 take account of mobility allowance at the increased rate of £12·00 a week from 14 November 1979, but with no provision for subsequent uprating, and of other services at 1979 prices without adjustment for future trends in prices, and so on.

    Special Hospitals

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the annual cost of maintaining a patient in each of the special hospitals.

    Information in the form requested is not available. The cost of maintaining a patient in a special hospital during the financial year which ended on 31 March 1979 was £7,953; this figure does not include departmental administrative expenses.

    Urgent Need Payments

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will provide the following statistics concerning payments for urgent need made under the provision of the Supplementary Benefits Act 1976 section 4 in each of the years 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1978 and 1979 (a) the total cost to the Supplementary Benefits Commission of payments for urgent need, (b) the total number of payments for urgent need, (c) the total cost of payments for urgent need made by the supplementary benefit offices at Thames North, Thames South and Glasgow Cranstonhill, (d) the total number of payments for urgent need made by the supplementary benefit offices at Thames North, Thames South and Glasgow Cranstonhill, (e) the total number and average amount of payments for urgent need given to claimants before a full entitlement was decided, (f) the total amount of money recovered from claimants who had been awarded a payment for urgent need, and (g) the total amount of money recovered from claimants who had been awarded a payment for urgent need by the supplementary benefit offices at Thames North, Thames South and Glasgow Cranstonhill.

    I regret that statistics of payments under section 4 of the Supplementary Benefits Act 1976 are not separately kept, either for the country as a whole or for the three offices mentioned. The only information available relates to (f)—total amount of section 4 payments recovered from claimants—and is as follows—

    Financial year£
    1973–7444,000
    1974–7552,000
    1975–7656,000
    1976–7764,000
    1977–7860,000
    1978–7961,000

    Earnings Rule

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will list the value of the earnings rule for retirement pensioners as a percentage of (a) gross and

    EARNINGS LIMIT FOR RETIREMENT PENSIONERS AS A PERCENTAGE OF GROSS AND NET AVERAGE EARNINGS
    DateRetirement pension earnings limitGross average weekly earningsNet average weekly earningsRetirement pension earnings limit as percentage of gross earningsRetirement pension earnings limit as percentage of net earnings
    £££
    October 19481·006·905·8114·517·2
    October 19491·007·135·9914·016·7
    October 19501·007·526·4513·315·5
    October 19512·008·306·9624·128·7
    October 19522·008·937·6422·426·2
    October 19532·009·468·1721·124·5
    October 19542·0010·228·7319·622·9
    October 19552·0011·159·3917·921·3
    October 19562·5011·909·9521·025·1
    October 19572·5012·5810·4319·924·0
    October 19582·5012·8310·4719·523·9
    October 19593·0013·5611·1522·126·9
    October 19603·5014·5311·8324·129·6
    October 19613·5015·3412·1822·828·7
    October 19623·5015·8612·5422·127·9
    May 19634·2516·3313·1225·732·4
    March 19645·0017·3813·5528·836·9
    October 19655·0019·5914·8225·533·7
    October 19665·0020·3015·2524·632·8
    June 19676·5020·7715·5731·341·7
    October 19686·5023·0016·9328·338·4
    November 19697·5025·0018·0230·041·6
    October 19707·5028·0519·9826·737·5
    October 19707·5031·5022·3023·833·6
    September 19719·5034·3024·4027·738·9
    October 19729·5039·7028·8023·933·0
    October 19739·5044·3031·8021·429·9
    July 197413·0050·6035·0025·737·1
    April 197520·0060·8040·7032·949·1
    April 197635·0071·8047·5048·773·7
    November 197740·0083·3056·4048·070·9
    November 197845·0095·5065·2047·169·0
    November 197952·00Not availableNot availableNot availableNot available
    * From 1948 to 1962 and for those years between 1963 and 1970 in which the earnings limit was unchanged, average earnings were taken from the October inquiry, as published by Department of Employment, and represent the earnings of full-time adult male manual workers in manufacturing industries and some of the principal non-manufacturing industries. For years between 1963 and 1970 in which the earnings limit was changed estimates of average earnings are based on October inquiry estimates by interpolation using the seasonally adjusted monthly index of average earnings (older series) as published by Department of Employment. From 1970 average earnings estimates are based on New Earnings Survey (NES) estimates of average earnings of full-time male workers, 21 years and over, in all occupations, manual and non-manual. (NES estimates began in 1970 and give a broader coverage of earnings than the older series.) Formonths other than April, the April NES estimates have been interpolated to the appropriate months up to 1977 using the monthly index of average earnings (older series), and from 1978 using a centred three month moving average of the whole economy index of average earnings, all employees, as published by Department of Employment.
    † Net earnings are gross earnings less tax, at single person rates, and NP contributions at not-contracted-out rates.

    Sittingbourne Re-Establishment Centre

    ( b) net average earnings for each year since 1948; and if he will estimate the value both gross and net for November of the current year.

    The information requested is given in the table below:to be able to reply to the complaints about the Sittingbourne re-establishment centre set out in correspondence from the hon. Member for Woolwich, East on 24 September 1979.

    Benefits

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will tabulate the amounts by which the following benefits would now be reduced for a single person, a married couple, a couple with two children and a couple with four children, if the benefits had only been increased in line with prices since 1974, or since their introduction if introduced

    (1)(2)(3)(4)(5)
    BenefitJuly 1974 rateNovember 1979 rateJuly 1974*rate expressed at November pricesJuly 1974 expressed rate plus/minus November 1979 rate
    ££££
    Retirement Pension—
    Single person10·0023·3021·67-1·63
    Married couple16·0037·3034·67-2·63
    Married couple with 2 children24·9051·5053·95+2·45
    Married couple with 4 children32·7065·7070·86+5·16
    Invalidity Pension with maximum Invalidity Allowance—
    Single person12·0528·2026·11-2·09
    Married couple18·0542·2039·11-3·09
    Married couple with 2 children26·9556·4058·40+2·00
    Married couple with 4 children34·7570·6075·30+4·70
    Non-Contributory Invalidity Pension—†
    Single person7·9014·0013·02-0·98
    Married couple12·8022·4021·10-1·30
    Married couple with 2 children24·3036·6040·06+3·46
    Married couple with 4 children34·3050·8056·54+5·74
    Invalid care Allowances7·9014·0012·01—1·99
    Attendance Allowance—
    Higher rate8·0018·6017·33-1·27
    Lower rate5·3512·4011·59-0·81
    Industrial Disablement Benefit (100 per cent. rate)16·4038·0035·54-2·46
    Disabled War Pensioner (100 per cent. other ranks lower rate)—
    Single person16·4038·0035·54-2·46
    Married couple16·9038·6036·62-1·98
    Married couple with 2 children17·6638·6038·27-0·33
    Married couple with 4 children18·4238·6039·91+1·31
    * Based on the movement in the General Index of Retail Prices as published by the Department of Employment.
    † Non-contributory invalidity pension introduced in November 1975 and the rate shown in column 2 is the rateat date of introduction. The expressed rate shown in Column 4 is based on the movement in the General Index of Retail Prices between November 1975 and November 1979 (both dates inclusive).
    ‡ Invalid care allowance introduced in July 1976 and the rate shown in column 2 is the rate at date of introduction The expressed rate shown in column 4 is based on the movement in the General Index of Retail Prices between July 1976 and November 1979 (both dates inclusive).

    Personal Social Services Council

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what representations he has received about his decisions to wind-up the Personal Social

    since 1974 ( a) retirement pension, ( b) invalidity pension with maximum invalidity allowance, ( c) non-contributory invalidity pension, ( d) invalid care allowance, ( e) attendance allowance at each rate, ( f) industrial disablement benefit (100 per cent. rate) and ( g) the maximum total benefit payable to a 100 per cent. disabled war pensioner.

    The information requested is contained in the following table:Services Council; what replies he has sent; and if he will make a statement.

    My right hon. Friend has received five letters from individual council members, six from voluntary and other organisations, and one sending me an advance copy of a letter subsequently published in The Times. Replies dealing with the particular points raised have so far been sent to all but two correspondents, who will receive replies shortly.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will list the activities of the Personal Social Services Council under appropriate headings at the time of his decision to wind-up the council; if his Department is seeking to assist in ensuring that any of those activities will be carried on by other bodies; if he will consult the councilabout those of its activities which it believes should be continued after 31 March; and if he will make a statement.

    The council was undertaking or preparing for work, or further work, on a variety of issues. These included ageing and later life; people with handicaps; complaints by children in care, intermediate treatment; a target date for a fully qualified social work profession; violence in the family; and research needs in the personal social services. The council has been consulting with certain other bodies about arrangements for taking some of these activities further. The Department is in close touch with the chairman and senior council staff on this and all other aspects of the council's closure, and will be giving all the help it usefully can.

    Quangos

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will list in the Official Report the names of bodies to which he appoints members, other than civil servants, that have been established since May 1979, giving the names of those appointed to each and the estimated annual cost in each case.

    No body of this kind, as now listed in the recently published "Report on Non-Departmental Public Bodies"(Cmnd. 7797), has been established since May 1979.

    Drugs

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many individual drugs granted product licences of right are yet to be subject to rigorous checks; what steps are being taken to speed the process; and how many resources, in real terms, have been devoted to this task in each of the last three years.

    Whilst the review of medicines by therapeutic categories continues systematically, this has been supplemented by an accelerated review procedure introduced last year under which products, irrespective of category, are subjected to a less detailed interim examination to bring forward for early consideration those which are considered to be potentially hazardous. Some 4,500 have been scrutinised under the accelerated review and are included in an estimated 19,500 product licences of right which remain for full or partial review.The review costs for the 12 months from 1 September 1976 to 31 August 1977—a licensing year—and from 1 September 1977 to 31 August 1978 were estimated to be £600,000 and £520,000 respectively. Similar figures for the licensing year ending 31 August 1979 are not yet available.

    Debendox

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) what investigations have been made into the safety of the drug Debendox; and if he will make a statement;(2) what new factors led to the banning of over-the-counter sales of the drug Debendox and its issue on prescription only;(3) if Debendox is a drug which was granted a produce licence of right.

    Debendox was granted a product licence of right in 1972. The Committee on Safety of Medicines considered the possible teratogenic effects of anti-histamines in June 1978 and February 1979, especially those such as Debendox which were prescribed specifically for pregnant women. This followed the publication of reports based on individual cases of congenital abnormalities occurring in the children of women taking these preparations. Research has, however, not established any causal relationship between the drug and congenital abnormalities and it is known that severe vomiting in pregnancy, for which Debendox is prescribed, may itself be associated with an increased incidence of congenital abnormality. Nevertheless, the committee advised that, as a precaution to ensure that professional judgment is exercised, anti-histamine products which carried indications for use in pregnancy should be available only on prescription. In fact, Debendox had become legally a prescription-only medicine in 1978 for a different reason, that is because it contained dicyclomine.

    Expenditure

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) what has been the expenditure per head

    NHS EXPENDITURE PER HEAD OF POPULATION FOR AREAS WITHIN THE NORTH WESTERN AND YORKSHIRE REGIONS
    TABLE 1—NORTH WESTERN REGION
    Area Health Authority1974–751975–761976–771977–781978–79
    £££££
    Lancashire6988101117134
    Bolton52687986100
    Bury4759677894
    Manchester (T)116150170199228
    Oldham4864728192
    Rochdale5264748293
    Salford (T)82108122142167
    Stockport55698191106
    Tameside4059718094
    Trafford4363718194
    Wigan4660708194
    TABLE 2—YORKSHIRE REGION
    Area Health Authority1974–751975–761976–771977–781978–79
    £££££
    Humberside58758699116
    North Yorkshire63679098110
    Bradford658496106123
    Calderdale53708191105
    Kirklees57758595110
    Leeds (T)75100113124140
    Wakefield7797107118138
    Notes on the tables:
    1. "T"denotes an area health authority (teaching) and the relative expenditure figures are influenced by additional expenditure on the provision of facilities for the clinical teaching of medical and dental students.
    2. Expenditure figures used have been taken from the annual accounts of the health authorities in the regions. Capital expenditure included in the accounts of the regional health authorities which is identified as appropriate to specified areas has been included in the expenditure per head of the population of those areas. Other regional expenditure not so included amounts annually to an average per head of population for the regions as a whole of between £2 (1974–75) and £5 (1978–79)for North Western and between £2 (1974–75) and £4 (1978–79) for Yorkshire.
    3. The population figures used for each year are the mid-year estimates of resident population, which make no allowance for people resident in one area who receive treatment in another, or for the differences in morbidity and age/sex structure of particular populations.

    Supplementary Benefit

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will list the changes from Supplementary Benefits Commission policy which he proposes to make under regulations arising from the Social Security Bill.

    of population on the health services for each area within the North-Western regional health authority for each of the past five years;

    (2) what has been the expenditure per head of population on the health services for each area within the Yorkshire regional health authority for each of the past five years.

    [pursuant to his reply, 21 December 1979, c. 521]: The information requested for the years 1974–75 to 1978–79 is given in the table below.handbook. We have already given a detailed explanation of the uses proposed for the various regulation-making powers in the Bill which relate to supplementary benefit. These will reflect existing Commission policy. In general, it is our intention that in future details of the scheme should be set out as clearly and precisely as possible: for example, amounts and qualifying periods should be specified, and the circumstances to be considered should be set out in detail.The areas in which particular changes will be found are the rules governing eligibility for benefit, the calculation of requirements and resources, and their aggregation, additions to weekly benefits, and single payments to meet exceptional and urgent needs.In addition, the regulations will provide for some changes which are in accordance with the Commission's policy but which could not previously be introduced in practice.

    Benefits (Payment)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what progress has been made in respect of paying Department of Health and Social Security benefits via banks rather than post offices; and if he will make a statement.

    I have nothing to add to my hon. Friend's reply to my hon. Friend the Member for Huntingdonshire (Mr. Major) on 18 January.—[Vol 976, c. 885–6.]

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many transactions his Department conducted with members of the general public through post offices during the latest year for which a reliable estimate of the figure can be given.

    [pursuant to her reply, 22 January 1980]: On the basis of 1978 information, it is estimated that some 1,000 million separate payments of social security benefits are made each year through post offices. For some people, more than one benefit is included in their payments.

    Turner Collection

    asked the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster if he will make a statement on the proposal to house the Turner Collection next to the Tate Gallery; whether he will agree to finance the running of the new gallery; and whether he will guarantee the development costs against inflation.

    I can confirm the answer I gave my hon. Friend the Member for Preston, North (Mr. Atkins) on 21 January—[Vol. 977, c. 8.] The generous offer which has been made by a charitable foundation is an outline proposal only. Practical questions about the site, design, construction and running of the proposed Turner museum are being examined by experts and my advisers, and decisions will be taken as soon as possible by the charitable foundation concerned, the Tate Gallery trustees, and the Government.

    Industry

    Quangos

    asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will list in the Official Report the names of bodies to which he appoints members, other than civil servants, that have been established since May 1979, giving the names of those appointed to each and the estimated annual cost in each case.

    Government Directors

    asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will list the names of all persons who currently hold the post of Government director on company boards, the salary each is paid, the length of their present tenure and when it expires.

    Assisted Areas

    asked the Secretary of State for Industry (1) if he will list in the Official Report each local authority in England and Wales which will lose its assisted area status under the terms of clause 13 of the Industry Bill which has made representation to him about projects in its area that it feels might be affected through non-completion of the project by 1 August 1980; and if he will publish each threatened project affected and the amount of regional development grant for each projectin each local government area;(2) if he will list in the

    Official Report each local authority in Scotland which will lose its assisted area status under the terms of clause 13 of the Industry Bill which has made representations to him

    about projects in its area that it feels might be affected through non-completion of the project by 1 August 1980; and if he will publish each project affected and the amount of regional development grant for each project in each local government area.

    Steel Production

    asked the Secretary of State for Industry, further to his reply to the hon. Member for Oldham, West on 14 January, what assumptions other than those concerning gross domestic product of steel imports he regards as necessary to provide a sufficient basis for making reliable estimates of crude steel production.

    Post Office

    asked the Secretary of State for Industry whether he will make a statement about the financial objective for the postal business of the Post Office.

    The current financial objective for the postal business, which is a 2 per cent. return on turnover after historic and supplementary depreciation and after payment of interest, expires at the end of the financial year 1979–80. My right hon. Friend has agreed with the Post Office board that the same financial objective shall apply to each of the three financial years 1980–81 to 1982–83.In agreeing the target my right hon. Friend has had regard to the Carter committee's view that, despite the very real competition the postal business faces from other means of communication, it should be possible for it to provide a good service without subsidy. The Post Office accepts this to be a fair and challenging target. It will also enable the postal business to meet its investment needs from profits and depreciation.The target for the postal business has, as in the past, been set as a return on turnover, rather than as a real return on net assets, the normal form for nationalised industry financial targets, and that on which the target for the tele- comunications business is based. The target is approximately equivalent to an average real rate of return of 4·3 per cent. on net assets, after depreciation and before the payment of interest over the three years concerned.The performance and efficiency of the postal business cannot however be measured solely in terms of its success in meeting the financial objective. The Post Office board is aware that, in addition to this target being met, the Government attach great importance to improving productivity and achieving the performance aim of preventing any rise in real unit costs over the period 1977–78 to 1982–83; and most particularly to the achievement of the highest quality of service to the consumer.

    Education And Science

    Nursery Education

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is the total number of children attending nursery schools in each of the regions of England; and what percentage this represents of children under the age of 5.

    In January 1979, the latest date for which the information is available, the figures were as follows:

    FULL-TIME AND PART-TIME PUPILS UNDER 5 YEARS IN MAINTAINED NURSERY SCHOOLS AND NURSERY CLASSES IN MAINTAINED PRIMARY SCHOOLS
    RegionNumber of pupilsPercentage of estimated population aged 3 and 4 years
    North21,48528
    Yorkshire and Humberside31,07326
    North West34,53021
    East Midlands20,12321
    West Midlands27,28521
    East Anglia3,9308
    South East
    Greater London39,58226
    Other South East26,67911
    South West5,5616
    England210,24818

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what advice he has given to local authorities about the provision of nursery education.

    In paragraph 31 of the recent White Paper "The Government's Expenditure Plans 1980–81" local authorities were advised that

    "it should be possible to maintain expenditure on the under-fives at about the present level".

    Inner London Education Authority

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many people were employed by the Inner London Education Authority in 1969 and 1979 as (a) teachers and (b) administration staff.

    The numbers of teachers, based on regular returns from the Inner London Education Authority, are:

    October 196927,100
    September 197930,600
    These include full-time and the full-time equivalent of part-time teachers—except for part-time teachers in further education, for which information is not available to my Department.The two figures given are not fully comparable because of changes in the form of the regular return and other reasons.Data on administration staff are not identified in the annual returns made by local authorities to central Departments; I therefore suggest that the hon. Member seeks this information from the Inner London Education Authority.

    Adult Education

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if, pursuant to the Government's policy of revitalising the economy, he will take steps to expand retraining and educational facilities for adults.

    It is for local education authorities to determine, in the light of the needs and resources of their area, what provision they can make, or help to make, for the education of adults. My right hon. and learned Friend has, however, recently announced his decision to provide Government support of some £½ million in 1980–81 for a central unit designed to provide a focus for the development of work in literacy and other basic skills, without which people are impeded from even being considered for employment. I understand from the Manpower Services Commission, which is responsible for the provision of training for employment, that it is keeping its training programme under review in the light of the resources available to it, and the needs of the labour market.

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if, in view of the cutback in adult education in many parts of the United Kingdom which is impairing the service, he will set up a working party to review the long-term future of adult education.

    My right hon. and learned Friend has recently extended the term of office of the Advisory Council for Adult and Continuing Education, whose remit includes both the review of current practice and the development of future policies and priorities for the education of adults. He awaits with interest the reports on these questions due to be presented to him this autumn.

    Adult Literacy Scheme

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether there is any intention to abandon the adult literacy scheme or to make any reduction in its performance.

    I refer my hon. Friend to the answer given by my right hon. and learned Friend to my hon. Friend the Member for Loughborough (Mr. Dorrell) on 17 December 1979.—[Vol. 976, c. 15.] It is, however, for local education authorities to determine, in the light of the unit's work and of local needs, priorities and resources, what continued level of provision for adult literacy work can be made in their areas.

    Quangos

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will list in the Official Report the names of bodies to which he appoints members, other than civil servants, that have been established since May 1979, giving the names of those appointed to each and the estimated annual cost in each case.

    Teachers

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science when he now expects to publish his Department's survey of secondary school teachers undertaken in 1977.

    My right hon. and learned Friend expects to publish an interim report on the 1977 secondary school staffing survey in a few weeks' time, and a full report in the summer.

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how the Government ensure that the numbers of teachers trained matches with the potential demand for subjects to be taught.

    Local authorities recruit teachers not only from newly qualified teachers emerging from the initial training system but also from former teachers wishing to return; they also make use of the Government's scheme for training and retraining teachers in certain shortage subjects, and may redeploy their existing staff.Teacher training institutions in the public sector were asked by my Department, following the successive reorganisations of the teacher training system announced in 1975 and 1977, to coordinate on a regional basis, and to sub-

    HOUSEHOLDS OWNING VARIOUS DURABLE GOODS: OCTOBER 1978
    United KingdomFrancePercentage Germany (FR)
    Refrigerator*878297
    Freezer*372355
    Washing machine727688
    Motor car546763
    Source: Social Trends No. 10.
    * Includes combined fridge-freezers.
    Excluding company cars.
    Data on televisions and telephones are available only in the following form:

    TELEVISIONS AND TELEPHONES PER 100 POPULATION DECEMBER 1977
    United KingdomGermany (FR)
    Television*3231
    Telephone4237
    Source: Eurostat: "Basic Statistics of the Community".
    * Number of licences issued.
    † Includes public telephones.

    Occupational Guidance Units

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what the future is of the occupational guidance units within the Manpower Services Commission in Manchester and elsewhere.

    mit to the Department through regional committees, their future plans for provision of training for specific subjects and age-ranges. The information provided showed that efforts were being made to protect provision in those subjects for which there was the greatest need in the schools. Success will, however, depend on the recruitment of suitably qualified candidates wishing to train to teach these subjects.

    Employment

    Household Goods

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will publish figures comparing the percentage of households in each of the United Kingdom, France and Germany which possess the following items: black and white television, colour television, refrigerator, freezer, washing machine, motor car and telephone.

    The available data are given in the following table:Services Commission to achieve savings on staff and planned expenditure, the commission has made proposals to me which include a change in the existing means of providing occupational guidance. The effects of this change would be to rely more on occupational information in self-help form and less on the counselling of individuals. It is too early to say how individual occupational guidance units would be affected.

    Overtime Statistics

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what was the number of hours of overtime worked in (a) Dundee, (b) Scotland and (c) Great Britain on average per week last year; and what was the amount of overtime worked per overtime worker in each case.

    Overtime statistics are collected for one week in each month and relate to operatives in manufacturing industries. Taking the figures obtained in the first 11 months of 1979, the average weekly numbers of hours of overtime worked in Scotland and Great Britain were 1,348,000 and 14,855,000 respectively. The weekly averages per operative working overtime were 9·0 hours in Scotland and 8·7 in Great Britain. Information for areas smaller than the standard regions of Great Britain is not available.The weeks for which overtime statistics are collected have been selected to avoid statutory holidays and it cannot be assumed that the averages are representative of all weeks in the year.

    Disabled Persons

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will provide figures showing the number of disabled persons placed in employment in the months since the launching of the "Fit for Work" campagin by the Manpower Services Commission, and give figures for the comparable period in 1978–79.

    I am advised by the Manpower Services Commisson, which is responsible for the public employment service for disabled people, that the numbers of disabled people placed in employment during the months in question are as follows:

    October 19785,024
    November 19785,031
    December 19784,733
    October 19794,869
    November 19794,681
    December 19794,370
    The aims of the "Fit for Work" campaign are wider than increasing the placings of disabled people. It encourages firms to examine policies and practices in order to secure better opportunities for training, career development and promotion for disabled people already in employment.

    Quangos

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will list in the Official Report the names of bodies to which he appoints members other than civil servants that have been established since May 1979, giving the names of those appointed to each and the estimated annual cost in each case.

    Since May 1979 nine wages councils for the retail trades have been amalgamated into two new councils at an estimated annual saving of £10,000. Apart from these two councils no new body has been established to which I appoint members.I appointed the following members to the new wages councils:

    To the Retail Food and Allied Trades Wages Council
    • Mr. W. Monaghan, Chairman
    • Dr. June Stevenson, Deputy Chairman
    • Mr. J. J. Hughes
    To the Retail Trades (Non-Food) Wages Council GB
    • Mr. R. S. Sim, Chairman
    • Dr. Sarah Orr, Deputy Chairman
    • Mrs. Barbara Smith

    Microelectronics And Computers

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what grants the Government will make in 1980–81 to encourage employers to release existing design staff to attend short courses of training in microelectronics as applied to product design.

    I am informed by the Manpower Services Commission (MSC) that all industrial training boards (ITBs) have been asked to examine training needs resulting from microelectronics and that it will give priority to meeting demonstrated needs for financial support. MSC is discussing with the Engineering and Shipbuilding ITB's requests for £290,000 to help train 1,500–1,600 existing design staff in 1980–81 in microelectronics as applied to product design.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what grants the Government will make in 1980–81 to finance seminars for managers to promote understanding of the effect on manpower training and industrial relations of the application of microelectronics and computers.

    I am informed by the Manpower Services Commission that discussions are well advanced with the Engineering and Shipbuilding Industry Training Boards which have sought £44,000 from MSC to mount seminars for 1,500–1,600 managers in 1980–81 covering manpower issues related to microelectronics and computers. Other seminars are likely to be mounted by ITBs without specific MSC grant.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what schemes will be funded by the Government in 1980–81 to explore the effects of the application of microelectronics on the training needs of maintenance staff.

    I am informed by the Manpower Services Commission (MSC) that all industrial training boards (ITBs) have been asked to examine training needs created by microelectronics including where appropriate, those of maintenance staff. MSC itself, in consultation with industry, is keeping under continuous review the content of training opportunities scheme courses in maintenance and the need for new types of course, and also expects to complete by mid-1981 an examination of the effects of microelectronics on skills required for office machinery maintenance.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what funds the Government are intending to provide in 1980–81 for schemes designed to encourage more young people, especially girls, to take up training in occupations related to microelectronics and computers.

    A range of occupations is relevant in different degrees to microelectronics applications. I am informed by the Manpower Services Commission (MSC) that in 1980–81 it intends, through the industrial training boards, other national training bodies and the National Computing Centre to make available about £3 million to grant-aid the training of 1,500 young people in basic computer programming. The MSC and others administering the grants are keeping in mind the career opportunities which training in computer programme can afford girls.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what special efforts will be made by the Government in 1980–81 to assist small firms to cope successfully with the application of microelectronics to their businesses.

    I am informed by the Manpower Services Commission (MSC) that it has asked all industrial training boards (ITBs) to devote special attention to analysing and helping firms meet training needs created by microelectronics in their industries.The Engineering ITB in 1980–81 intends to mount seminars specifically for managers of small firms covering manpower issues raised and Chemical and Allied Products 1TB will be conducting meetings covering the same topic with managers of small and medium firms.Many of the firms assisted so far under the various aspects of microprocessor application project administered by my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Industry have been small firms. Of the 1,200 submissions received so far for the limited support available for consultancy advice to would-be first-time microelectronics applications, most are from small firms. This project will continue in 1980–81. Other activities will be directed towards problems of finance for small businesses in this area, and the provision of basic advice. The Department of Industry is also preparing a booklet entitled "Microprocessors and the small business," which should be published in the near future.

    Manpower Services Commission

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment, pursuant to his reply to the hon. Member for Wolver Hampton North-East on 16 January, Official Report, column 751–52, how many people are likely to go without training as a result of the loss of 100 posts in the special programmes division.

    Back Injuries (Lost Working Days)

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many persons have been off work for three or more days because of back injury for 1975, 1976, 1977, 1978 and 1979.

    Information in the exact form requested is not available. The estimated number of reported injuries to the trunk—including back, neck and shoulder—which resulted in more than three days' absence was 66,000 in 1975 69,800 in 1976 and 72,500 in 1977.Fully comparable figures for 1978 are not available. However, there were some 65,000 reported injuries to the neck, back and trunk resulting in more than three days' absence, of which 49,000 were injuries to the back. These figures cover all injuries reported to the Factory Inspectorate, including some reportable under the Offices, Shops and Railway Premises Act and some not compulsorily reportable at all. Figures for 1979 were not available.

    Health And Safety

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will make a statement on the current state of proposals to limit the lifting of heavy weights in industry; and if he will list the reasons for the delay by the Health and Safety Executive in publishing draft regulations.

    The Health and Safety Commission considered draft proposals from the Health and Safety Executive for regulations and guidance on manual handling on 18 December 1979, and took the view that it was impracticable to produce comprehensive guidance for the whole of industry in a single document. It agreed to set up a working party with representatives of the TUC and CBI, with the primary aim of formulating general guidance for those responsible for designing work systems and for supervising work. The subject has proved more complex, and to involve wider considerations, than was originally contemplated. The draft regulations will be further considered when the proposed guidance is formulated.

    North Sea Oil Sectors (Working Conditions)

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he is satisfied that the employment, safety and other regulations affecting Norwegians working in the North Sea United Kingdom sector and United Kingdom nationals working in the Norwegian sector are broadly fair and equal.

    Yes. The position is monitored, and generally it has been possible to reach a satisfactory solution to any problems that have arisen.

    Skillcentres

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment if the Enfield skillcentre is to be closed.

    [pursuant to his reply, 18 January 1980, c. 890–91]: I am informed by the Manpower Services Commission that Enfield skillcentre is one of 20 skillcentres and annexes to be put to the commission later this month as candidates for possible closure. No decisions have yet been taken.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment, if the Enfield skillcentre were to be closed, how many redundancies would result amongst the skilled instructors; to what use the existing facilities would be put; and where individuals currently attending the Enfield skillcentre will be trained.

    [pursuant to his reply, 18 January 1980, c. 890–91]: I am informed by the Manpower Services Commission that the closure of Enfield skillcentre need not result in redundancy for any skilled instructors. They would be redeployed to existing or future vacancies elsewhere.There are no plans for alternative use of the premises. If the centre is closed, machinery, fixtures and fittings would be transferred to other centres.Trainees who currently attend Enfield skillcentre could be trained at a number of alternative centres, depending on where they live—for example, Letchworth, Perivale, or the proposed new Camden skillcentre.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will list the occupancy and post-training placement rates of all skillcentres and skillcentre annexes.

    [pursuant to his reply, 18 January 1980, c. 890): The Manpower Services Commission has provided the information set out below. Column (a) shows the percentage of usable training time used by trainees under the training opportunities scheme (TOPS), trainees sponsored by their employers and young people for the five-month period ending 7 December 1979. The balance comprises trainingtime wasted because places were unoccupied or because trainees failed to complete their training. No account is taken in these figures of the 12·4 per cent. of skillcentre capacity which is presently non-operational because of shortages of instructors.

    The placement rates shown in column ( b) represent the percentage of trainees who found employment on completion of their training course for the quarter ending 31 December 1979, except where otherwise stated. A breakdown of the figures between skillcentres and their annexes is not possible in all cases. Figures for the percentage of ex-trainees who are in a job using their training skills three months after completion, which is considered a far more reliable and indicative statistic, are not at present available.

    United Kingdom Skillcentres

  • (a) Percentage occupancy last 5 months.
  • (b) Percentage placing on completion quarter ending December 1979 (except regions marked where it is quarter ending September 1979).
  • (a)(b)

    Scotland

    Bellshill70·627·0
    Bellshill Annexe79·8

    *

    Dumbarton77·753·1
    Dundee73·241·7
    Dunfermline72·144·4
    Edinburgh85·752·6
    Edinburgh Annexe84·1

    *

    Glasgow (Hillington)66·349·5
    Glasgow (Hillington) Annexe87·9

    *

    Glasgow (Queenslie)82·956·3
    Irvine67·333·3
    Port Glasgow76·511·1

    Northern

    Billingham62·464·0
    Darlington66·871·0
    Durham69·135·0
    Durham Annexe75·3

    *

    Felling55·159·0
    Felling Annexe71·1

    *

    Killingworth68·957·0
    Maryport*71·459·0
    Middlesbrough53·460·0

    North West

    Blackburn76·092·7
    Hindley68·970·0
    Hindley Annexe75·374·2
    Liverpool79·054·2
    Manchester (Denton)68·081·4
    Manchester (Trafford Park)67·594·8
    Preston70·960·2
    Rochdale70·581·5
    Runcorn77·667·5
    St. Helens72·789·1
    St. Helens Annexe81·354·7

    Yorkshire and Humberside

    Bradford83·080·5
    Doncaster66·068·0
    Hull71·150·7
    Leeds69·283·3
    Leeds Annexe62·6

    *

    Sheffield60·690·1
    Sheffield Annexe67·3

    *

    Wakefield67·091·1

    Midlands

    Birmingham (Handsworth)66·764·6
    Birmingham Annexe70·8

    *

    Birmingham (Castle Bromwich)60·280·4
    Coventry64·173·0

    (a)(b)
    Coventry Annexe74·5

    *

    Dudley68·185·7
    Kirkby-in-Ashfield65·981·6
    Kirkby Annexe65·3

    *

    Leicester65·680·6
    Leicester Annexe80·8

    *

    Long Eaton60·569·2
    Long Eaton Annexe77·5

    *

    North Staffs70·183·9
    Wolverhampton72·076·8
    Wolverhampton Annexe65·5

    *

    Wales

    Cardiff69·555·2
    Cardiff Annexe (Tremorfa)69·347·1
    Cardiff Annexe (Treforest)82·424·1
    Llanelli62·345·8
    Newport79·874·2
    Port Talbot65·945·9
    West Gwent65·661·4
    West Gwent Annexe91·052·8
    Wrexham69·249·0
    South East
    Basildon78·287·8
    Basildon Annexe85·375·0
    Ipswich73·576·7
    Letch worth72·689·6
    Medway73·390·2
    Medway Annexe66·781·1
    Milton Keynes74·293·3
    Norwich83·076·8
    Peterborough80·492·3
    Portsmouth71·684·1
    Reading79·6100·0
    Slough69·473·2
    Slough Annexe80·075·0
    Southampton72·586·8
    Southampton Annexe78·895·0
    West Sussex61·098·7
    West Sussex Annexe66·7

    *

    South West

    Bristol74·986·0
    Bristol Annexe86·173·0
    Gloucester66·155·0
    Gloucester Annexe67·054·0
    Plymouth78·771·0
    Plymouth Annexe74·171·0
    Swindon73·5100·0
    Redruth86·383·0
    London
    Charlton61·4100·0
    Charlton Annexe76·191·6
    Enfield54·877·8
    Enfield Annexe70·590·5
    Perivale59·091·8
    Perivale Annexe69·355·9
    Poplar63·781·7
    Twickenham60·788·6
    Twickenham Annexe70·491·7
    Waddon68·291·3
    Waddon Annexe81·086·7

    * Combined Skillcentre and Annexe figures.

    Redundancies

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many redundancies there have been (a) on Merseyside and (b) in the North-West, for each month in 1979 and how many are in prospect

    [pursuant to his reply, 22 January 1980]: Informationon the number of redundancies which have actually taken place is not available. However, I am informed by the Manpower

    (a) MERSEYSIDE
    JanuaryFebruaryMarchAprilMayJune
    9579131,3283,3117031,428
    JulyAugustSeptemberOctoberNovemberDecember
    4146368065229411,126
    (b) NORTH WEST REGION
    JanuaryFebruaryMarchAprilMayJune
    2,7892,8663,6965,0762,2793,177
    JulyAugustSeptemberOctoberNovemberDecember
    2,0262,1193,9432,2574,2463,528
    The November and December figures are still provisional.
    So far, redundancies involving 590 employees in Merseyside and 4,097 in the North-West have been notified to the Manpower Services Commission as due to occur in 1980.

    Health And Safety Executive

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he has made any assessment of the effect on the provision of services by the Health and Safety Executive of cutting back on the expenditure of the executive by (a) 10 per cent., (b) 15 per cent. and (c) 20 per cent.

    [pursuant to his reply, 23 January 1980]: At his request, the Health and Safety Commission let my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State have its views on the effect on its activities and those of the Health and Safety Executive of reductions in expenditure on staff of 10 per cent., 15 per cent. and 20 per cent. His assessment was that reductions of that magnitude would have too serious an effect on essential services, but that a smaller reduction could be sustained.In the event, the Government's decision was that there should be a reduction of about 2·2 million—approximately 6 per cent.—in staff expenditure by the year 1982–83.

    Transport

    Commercial Vehicles (Accidents)

    asked the Minister of Transport whether the Transport and Road Research Laboratory is now in a position to report on its analysis of fatal accidents Services Commission that the number of workers involved in redundancies affecting 10 or more and notified as due to occur in each month of 1979 was as follows:involving heavy goods vehicles in 1976, and on its analysis of 1,700 accidents involving commercial vehicles on motorways in 1977.

    In both studies data are now being analysed and evaluated. Reports will be published as soon as possible after this has been completed. A paper on preliminary findings of the study involving heavy goods vehicles is being prepared for the Armitage inquiry and will be available to the inquiry and the public shortly. Considerably more analysis and evaluation will be needed before the results can be presented in final form.

    Motorways (Emergency Telephones)

    asked the Minister of Transport if, further to his reply of 17 December 1979 to the hon. Member for Rugby, he will continue his Department's programme of replacing Post Office telephones on the M5 and M6 with telephones provided and maintained by his own Department, until all Post Office motorway telephones are replaced.

    Yes. The Department intends to replace all Post Office telephoneson motorways with its own equipment. All telephones on the M5 supplied by the Post Office are scheduled to be replaced by 1982. A date has not been fixed for completion of the replacement telephone work on the M6.

    Tachograph Calibration Centres

    asked the Minister of Transport how many tachograph calibration centres there now are in England and Wales; and how many more it is planned to establish in the immediate future.

    There are 183 approved tachograph centres in England and Wales, and the Department is currently dealing with eight applications for approval. Many more applications will be coming forward shortly, and I expect to have approved 450 centres in Great Britain by the end of this year.

    Hire Cars (Safety)

    asked the Minister of Transport if he is satisfied with the Government safety checks relating to private hire cars as distinct from taxis.

    Yes. Private hire cars are subject, like other cars, to an annual MOT test if they are three years old or more. I see no need to impose any further general test requirements for such vehicles.

    Quangos

    asked the Minister of Transport if he will list in the Official Report the names of bodies to which he appoints members, other than civil servants, that have been established since May 1979, giving the names of those appointed to each and the estimated annual cost in each case.

    I have established only one body since May 1979: the Inquiry on Lorries, People and the Environment.The inquiry is being conducted by Sir Arthur Armitage who is assisted by four assessors—Sir Henry Chilver, Professor P. J. Lawther, Miss A. Lees and Professor R. Rees. All receive a daily fee.Government expenditure for this body has been estimated at £50,000 for 1979–80.

    Travel-To-Work Costs

    asked the Minister of Transport what figures are available for the proportion of income spent on journeys to work; and what plans he has to reduce this proportion.

    On average, the proportion of income spent on journeys to work is about 3 per cent. Of this, just over two-thirds goes on journeys by private car. As for public transport, increases in subsidy would mean a greater burden On the taxpayer and the ratepayer, but the Transport Bill now before Parliament should make bus services more competitive and encourage private car sharing.

    Driving Tests

    asked the Minister of Transport what is the current delay between application and test in respect of (a) driving licences and (b) heavy goods vehicle licences in Cambridgeshire; what is the average waiting period in the United Kingdom; and if he will publish a table showing current delays.

    The average wait in Cambridgeshire for L driving tests is 25 weeks, and for heavy goods vehicle driving tests, three weeks.The average wait in Great Britain for L-tests is estimated at 26½ weeks, and for HGV tests 5½ weeks.Traffic area L-test average waiting times are:

    AreaAverage wail (weeks)
    Northern18½
    Yorkshire21½
    North Western22½
    West Midlands27½
    East Midlands24
    Eastern26½
    South Wales22
    Western23
    South Eastern18½
    Metropolitan36
    (estimated)
    Scottish (South)21½
    Scottish (North)25
    Similar information for HGV tests is not readily available.

    Foreign & Commonwealth Affairs

    Rhodesia House, London

    asked the Lord Privy Seal when he proposes to arrange for the £324,000 outstanding in rates due in respect of Rhodesia House to the city of Westminster council to be paid by the Crown Colony of Southern Rhodesia.

    Until 1969, when the premises ceased to be used for diplomatic purposes, the Treasury Valuer made ex gratia contributions in lieu of rates. We shall be consulting interested authorities about the liabilities for rates since that time.

    Hong Kong (Immigration)

    asked the Lord Privy Seal how many legal and estimated illegal immigrants entered Hong Kong from mainland China in each week during the three months preceeding the visit of Chairman Hua; and what has been the weekly rate since his visit.

    The information requested is as follows-Premier Hua visited the United Kingdom between 28 October and 3 November 1979:

    1979Legal immigrantsEstimated illegal immigrants
    31 July-6 August1,127710
    7–13 August1,395630
    14–20 August1,230970
    21–27 August1,2201,120
    28 August-3 September1,2102,710
    4–10 September1,092880
    11–17 September1,2561,910
    18–24 September1,1771,310
    25 September-1 October1,0771,740
    2–8 October1,1201,640
    9–15 October1,0251,740
    16–22 October1,1512,500
    23–29 October1,0583,370
    30 October-5 November1,0042,520
    6–12 November1,0431,730
    13–29 November1,0422,050
    20–26 November1,1512,700
    27 November-3 December1,1113,060
    4–10 December1,1273,510
    11–17 December1,1043,330
    18–24 December1,1212,990
    25–31 December1,0892,880
    1980
    1–7 January1,071570
    3–14 January1,053760
    15–21 January1,018850

    Quangos

    asked the Lord Privy Seal if the will list in the Official Reportthe names of bodies to which the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs appoints members, other than civil servants, that have been established since May 1979, giving the names of those appointed to each and the estimated annual cost in each case.

    No new bodies have been established. However, under the terms of the Crown Agents Act 1979, the new incorporated Crown Agents came into existence on 1 January 1980. The appointed members of the Crown Agents are:

    • Mr. Sidney Eburne (Chairman)
    • Mr. John Goble (Deputy Chairman)
    • Mr. Peter Bulfield
    • Mr. Alan Frood
    • Mr. Kenneth Johnson
    • Sir Leslie Kirkley
    • Sir Gordon Mackay
    • Mr. Douglas Williams
    The annual salary costs related to these appointments is about £57,500. The latest available figure for operational costs for the Crown Agents is £22.65 million

    National Finance

    Family Income

    11.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what changes in income distribution have been produced by Government policy since last May.

    19.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is his estimate of the number of families who are now worse and better off, respectively, as a result of financial measures which he has taken and the recent changes in mortgage and other interest rates.

    The effect on different households of the Government's measures will vary according to individual circumstances. However, the living standards of every family in the land depend on the long-term performance of the economy as a whole, and the Government's economic policy is designed to create the conditions in which that performance is most likely to improve.

    Economic Forecasts

    12.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is his estimate of the growth rate in the economy for the coming year.

    The forecast published on 22 November showed a decline in GDP of 2 per cent. in 1980.

    17.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will make a statement about the relationship between recent Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development economic forecasts and those of his own Department.

    There is close agreement between our forecast of output and prices and that of the OECD. The latter's better prospect for the balance of payments is within the published margins of error.

    Industrial Building Allowance

    14.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he has any proposals to increase the industrial building allowance for hotels and associated developments from the existing level of 20 per cent. to 50 per cent.; and if he will make a statement.

    Fee-Paying Schools (Tax Relief)

    15.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the total amount of tax relief given to fee-paying schools.

    I regret that information on which to base an estimate is not available.

    Public Sector Borrowing Requirement

    20.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what was the public sector borrowing requirement for 1979; and if he is satisfied with this figure and the trend.

    I refer my hon. Friend to the statement made by my right hon. and learned Friend the Chancellor to the House on 15 November.

    Minimum Lending Rate

    21.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is his policy on the minimum lending rate.

    The current high level of interest rates is necessary to maintain firm control over monetary growth. Lower interest rates will be possible as our policies reduce both the scale of public sector borrowing and the rate of inflation.

    Value Added Tax

    22.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will seek to abolish value added tax.

    Sir Geoffrey Howe: No

    29.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what representations he has received on the current value added tax threshold.

    Representations have been received since May 1979 from approximately 150 traders and business organisations. About one-quarter of these have advocated the reduction or abolition of the registration limit, while the remainder have sought to have it increased by various amounts.

    Inflation

    16.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how much the rate of inflation has increased during the past 12 months.

    The retail prices index rose by 17·2 per cent. in the 12 months to December 1979. The tax and price index, which is a better guide to changes in taxpayers' costs, rose by 14·9 per cent. over the same period.

    26.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the present level of the tax and prices index.

    The tax and price index stood at 119·8 in December 1979. This represents an increase of 14·9 per cent. over the year.

    Money Supply

    23.

    asked the Chanceller of the Exchequer if, in future, he will announce the figures for the growth in the money supply as a percentage figure measured over the same month in the preceeding year, in the same way as the retail price increase is measured and announced.

    Figures for money supply growth over the preceding 12 months are available from the figures published each month. The growth in sterling M3 over the 12 months to mid-December, the latest such period for which figures are available, was 12·2 per cent.; the annualised rate of growth since the present target was set in June was 11·5 per cent. In general, year-on-year figures tend to obscure changes in the underlying trend of monetary growth.

    24.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what has been the increased cost so far, both to central Government and local authorities, on their borrowings as a result of the raising of the minimum lending rate from 15 to 17 per cent.; and by how much the money supply has been reduced thereby.

    It is not possible unambiguously to identify the extra interest cost, since both central and local government borrow in a range of markets, affected to differing extents by changes in MLR. Similarly, it is not possible to isolate the effects of the increase in MLR on monetary growth. However, my right hon. and learned Friend is convinced that the increase in MLR, and the other actions he took in November, were necessary to bring down the underlying rate of monetary growth. There are now grounds for hoping that they are having the desired effect.

    Amateur Sporting Organisations

    25.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will bring forward proposals to exempt amateur sporting organisations from taxation.

    Board Of Inland Revenue

    27.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he is satisfied with the present investigatory powers of the Board of Inland Revenue.

    Widows

    28.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will seek to introduce measures to reduce the tax burden on widows.

    Scottish Economy

    30.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what representations he has received from Scotland regarding the impact of his monetary and high interest rates on the Scottish economy.

    Among the representations I have received about the economic impact of monetary policy, a smallproportion have been especially concerned with Scotland. High interest rates are of course a matter of equal concern in all parts of the United Kingdom.

    Government Stock

    31.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the current annual interest on Government stock.

    Interest on Government stock paid in the year ended 31 March 1979 was £4,925,717,280. This figure appears in the Consolidated Fund and national loans fund accounts published on 18 January 1980 as House of Commons Paper 307 of 1979–80. The interest paid in servicing the national debt as a whole was £6,369 million for the financial year 1978–79, and the forecast for 1979–80 is £8,040 million.

    Single Person's Tax Allowance

    32.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is his estimate of the number of single people claiming single person's tax allowance, who are not householders.

    About 5 million, not all of whom pay tax after taking account of the allowance. This estimate is for 1977, the latest year available, and is based on the family expenditure survey.

    Public Expenditure

    33.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what plans he has now for reductions in public expenditure.

    I refer the hon. Member to the reply I gave to my right hon. Friend the Member for Worthing (Mr. Higgins) earlier today.

    Stamp Duty

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether, as an incentive to encourage home ownership, he will now seek to abolish stamp duty altogether on all residential conveyances.

    Income Tax

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will list the percentage shares of tax paid by each decile group for each year since 1975–76; and if he will list for these years the total tax raised from these individuals.

    Following are the figures:

    PERCENTAGE OF TOTAL TAX PAID BY EACH DECILE GROUP OF TAXPAYERS*
    YearTop 10%10–20%20–30%30–40%40–50%50–60%60–70%70–80%80–90%Bottom 10%
    1975–7635151210875431
    1976–7735151210876421
    1977–7835151210876421
    1978–79 ‡35161210875421
    TOTAL TAX PAID BY EACH DECILE GROUP OF TAXPAYERS* (£ MILLION)
    YearTop 10%10–20%20–30%30–40%40–50%50–60%60–70%70–80%80–90 %Bottom 10%Total taxmillion)
    1975–765,5302,4001,9201,6001,3301,13087967140012816,000
    1976–776,3302,7802,2301,8301,5401,2401,03073243914618,300
    1977–786,3502,7802,2001,8001,5301,23099970843612718,200
    1978–79 ‡7,1903,1402,4802,0701,7201,3901,08075544813420,400
    Notes:
    * Married couples are counted as one taxpayer. Only single persons and married couples are included; non-taxpayers are excluded and the tax paid by trusts. non-profit making bodies, etc. is also excluded.
    †Total tax includes higher rates and the additional rate on investment income.1978–79 is a provisional estimate.

    Credit Cards

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer, further to his answer to the hon. Member for Chichester on 14 January, whether data on lending by the main credit card companies are collected even though they are not published; and, if so whether such data include the element which represents lending in the initial interest-free period.

    Data on lending by the main bank credit card companies to persons, including undistinguishably the element which represents lending in the initial interest-free period, are collected by the Bank of England.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will include figures in respect of the use of travel and entertainment credit cards as short-term borrowing in the published figures on the sources of funds of the personal sector and the consumer credit tables.

    Travel and entertainment credit is used by business and personal borrowers. However, information on this form of credit is not available for either group of borrowers and therefore cannot be included in figures of the kind to which my hon. Friend refers.

    Krugerrands

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is his estimate of the number of Krugerrands currently held in the United Kingdom.

    Pension Funds (Tax-Free Status)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the average time elapsing between the pension fund applying to the Inland Revenue for tax-free status and (a) interim approval being given by the Revenue and (b) final approval being given by the Revenue.

    It takes on average three months between an application for approval of a new occupational pension scheme and the authorisation of provisional relief for employees. Final approval depends on full documentation being produced by the applicant. This often takes a long time. Whilst final approval is possible in some cases within six months of application, the average time between application and final approval is two years.

    Mortgage (Tax Relief)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the estimate for (a) 1979–80, and (b) 1980–81 of mortgage income tax relief on the assumption of unchanged mortgage interest rates.

    The estimated cost of mortgage interest relief for 1979–80 is about £1,450 million. The cost for 1980–81 will depend on the rates of tax and personal allowances for that year as well as the level of incomes and is not at present available.

    Quangos

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will list in the Official Report the names of bodies to which he appoints members, other than civil servants, that have been established since May 1979, giving the names of those appointed to each and the estimated annual cost in each case.

    Subcontractors (Tax Deduction Certificates)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer, in view of some of the harsh results arising from the present three-year rule for the issue of a subcontractor's tax deduction certificate, if he will take steps to amend the rules, particularly so that hard cases can be more fairly treated.

    I am very concerned at the harsh results the present three-year rule can produce in practice, and proposals for change will be set out in an Inland Revenue consultative document which will be issued shortly.

    Personal Allowances

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is his estimate of the number of women claiming wife's earned income allowance in full.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is his estimate of the tax expenditure saving if wife's earned income allowance and single person's tax allowance, for non-householders, were reduced to 50 per cent. of the married person's tax allowance, or £900 approximately.

    If wife's earned income allowance and the single person's allowance were each reduced to £900 the estimated saving in a full year at 1979–80 income levels would be of the following order:

    Savings £million
    Wife's earned income allowance390
    Single personal allowance670
    The precise amount relating to single persons who are non-householders is not available, but it is estimated that rather less than half of single persons benefiting from the tax allowance are not householders.

    European Community (Council Of Finance Ministers)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer when he expects next to meet his European Economic Community counterparts; and if he will make a statement.

    I next expect to meet the other Community Finance Ministers at the meeting of the Finance Council in Brussels on 11 February.

    Public Expenditure

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what cuts he is proposing in public expenditure in 1981–82; and in what areas they will fall.

    We are continuing to review public expenditure for the years ahead, including 1981–82, and will announce our decisions in due course.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer, if no reduction is made in the United Kingdom's contribution to the European Economic Community budget in 1981–82, by how much public expenditure in the United Kingdom will need to be reduced.

    We are continuing to review public expenditure and we are also seeking a very substantial reduction in our EEC contribution. As we have made clear, these exercises are related. In the Government's expenditure plans 1980–81 (Cmnd 7746) we indicated that the full net cost of the United Kingdom contribution to the Community under present arrangements wouldrise to £1,000 million in 1980–81. But we are determined that our contribution should in fact be reduced, so the hon. Member's question is a purely hypothetical one.

    North Sea Oil Sectors (Taxation)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he is satisfied that the taxation arrangements affecting Norwegians working in the United Kingdom sector of the North Sea and United Kingdom nationals working in the Norwegian sector are broadly fair and equal.

    Premium Bonds

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what are the costs of administering the premium savings bond schemes (a) in administration and (b) in promotion; and if he is satisfied that the current interest of 11·25 per cent. below minimum lending rate remains a satisfactory incentive to investors.

    Retirement Certificates

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will issue an updated leaflet to bring to the attention of pensioners the existence of index-linked retirement certificates; and if we will publish in the Official Report the effect of his last leaflet on the sale of retirement certificates.

    National Savings

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is his latest estimate of the total costs of the recompense arrangements announced to Parliament on 13 July 1979; and what will be the effect on the cash limit of the Department for National Savings.

    It is estimated that the total cost of recompense payments, including administration costs, will be £3·3 million. Total unavoidable additional expenditure is now estimated tobe £2·8 million. As announced in my answer to the hon. Member for Bridlington (Mr. Townsend) on 26 November—[Vol. 974, c. 522–23]—the DNS cash limit has already been increased by £1·874 million to cover recompense payments. It will therefore be necessary to raise the DNS cash limit by a futher £0·9 million. A spring Supplementary Estimate for this purpose will shortly be laid before Parliament.

    Profit Sharing

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer (1) in relation to approved profit sharing schemes under the Finance Act 1978 what would be the estimated costs of the tax reliefs in the financial year 1979–80 if the retention period was reduced to three years, and income tax was charged at 50 per cent. of the original value of the shares between three and four years, at 25 per cent. between four and five years, with no tax payable after five years;(2) in relation to the approved profit sharing scheme under the Finance Act 1978 what would be the estimated cost of the tax reliefs in the financial year 1979–80 if the retention period was reduced to one year, and income tax was charged at 50 per cent. of the original value of the shares between one and two years, at 25 per cent. between two and three years, with no tax payable after three years;(3) in relation to the approved profit sharing schemes under the Finance Act 1978 what would be the estimated cost of the tax reliefs in the financial year 1979–80 if the maximum value of shares appropriated to each employee was raised to £1,000 in any one tax year;(4) what is the estimated cost of the tax reliefs in the financial year 1979–80 arising from the operation of the approved profit sharing schemes under the Finance Act 1978;(5) what has been the cost to the Revenue to date of the profit sharing schemes so far approved under the Finance Act 1978.

    [pursuant to his replies, 21 January 1979, c. 30–31]: The loss of revenue as a result of profit sharing schemes depends on the number of employees participating in such schemes, the value of share allotted to these employees, and the length of time for which the shares are held.I regret that such information is not yet available for schemes set up in 1979–80 under the Finance Act 1978 and it is not possible to estimate the costs of alternative schemes.

    Environment

    Rent And Rate Rebates

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what has been the total cost of rent rebates in each of the last 10 years.

    The information is as follows:

    £ million (outturn prices)
    Financial yearCost of rent rebates in England and Wales
    1969–7015
    1970–7118
    1971–7217
    1972–7377
    1973–74167
    1974–75199
    1975–76232
    1976–77290
    1977–78343
    1978–79363
    Notes:
    1. The costs of administering the rebate scheme are excluded from the above figures.
    2. The mandatory rent rebate scheme was introduced in October 1972.
    3. For 1972–73 and 1973–74 the figures include the rent rebates granted directly to tenants receiving supplementary benefit. For subsequent years, the figures include the rent rebate element of the supplementary benefit payment.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will give the number of families with children in receipt of (a) rent rebates, (b) rent allowances and (c) rate rebates for each year since 1975; and if he will give estimates of the percentage of families eligible which these figures represent.

    It is estimated that in England and Wales in 1978 about 200,000 households with dependent children received rent rebates and that about 350,000 received rate rebates. No reliable estimate can be made for year to year changes; the number of households with dependent children which are eligible for or receive rent allowances; or the number of households which are eligible for rent and rate rebates.

    Housing (Occupiers)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many people live in (a) council housing, (b) housing association housing, (c) private rented accommodation, (d) owner-occupier accommodation not attracting mortgage income tax relief and (e) owner-occupier accommodation attracting mortgage income tax relief, respectively.

    The following available information is obtained from the results of the national dwelling and housing survey:

    HOUSEHOLDS AND PERSONS BY TENURE ENGLAND 1977
    HouseholdsThousands Persons
    Rented from a Council or New Town Corporation5,01313,966
    Rented from a housing association225473
    Rented privately, furnished and unfurnished2,4205,417
    Owner occupier:
    Owned outright3,9438,647
    With mortgage or loan*5,22217,276
    All16,82445,779
    Estimates of the number of owner occupiers receiving income tax relief on their mortgage interest are not available, but it is thought that Interest on most mortgages or loans attract either income tax relief or option mortgage subsidy.
    * Including building society mortgage, long-term bank loan, insurance company loan and private loan.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what proportions of the gross and net incomes of the average family and average adult single person have been spent on housing in each of the last 10 years; and how this compares with other Western European countries and with the United States of America.

    The available information is as follows:

    AVERAGE EXPENDITURE ON HOUSING AS A PERCENTAGE OF AVERAGE GROSS HOUSEHOLD INCOME: UNITED KINGDOM
    All householdsPercentage One adult household
    196910·1Not available
    197010·117·6
    197110·317·8
    197210·318·1
    197310·717·7
    197410·918·6
    19759·816·7
    197611·217·9
    197711·118·6
    197811·218·1
    Source: Family expenditure survey.
    For owner-occupiers, expenditure on housing is actual payments for rates, repair and maintenance and on imputed rent based on the updated rateable value. Mortgage interest charges are not included.Information required to estimate expenditure on housingis not readily available for the full period. Comparable information as a proportion of net income for Western European countries and United States of America is not available.

    Royal High School, Edinburgh

    asked the Secretary of State for the Envronment if any contracts have been placed for constructional work or equipment at the former Royal high school buildings in Edinburgh since May 1979; and if he will list these contracts and the reason why the contracts were placed before an occupant was found for the premises.

    Contracts for the following have been placed

    • Minor building work
    • Minor electrical work
    • Roadsworks
    • Landscaping and Planting
    • Fencing and Gates
    • Security works.
    The work has been the minimum necessary to make the buildings available for any use, to tidy up the envronment of the buildings and to protect them.

    Housing Expenditure

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what proportion of the gross national product, divided into private and public spending, including mortagage tax relief, has been spent on housing in each of the last 10 years; and how this compares with other Western European countries and with the United States of America.

    Information on total expenditure on housing in European countries and the United States of America is not available without considerable cost being incurred.

    Council Houses

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what has been the average real cost of each unit of council accommodation, including interest charges, in each of the last 10 years; and what has been the average rent paid by the tenant.

    The information is as follows:

    HOUSING REVENUE ACCOUNT: ENGLAND AND WALES: LOCAL HOUSING AUTHORITIES*
    Financial yearAverage annual cost per dwelling (outturn prices)Average annual unrebated rent per tenant
    ££
    1969–70154107
    1970–71167116
    1971–72177129
    1972–73200143
    1973–74245186
    1974–75329198
    1975–76390223
    1976–77451255
    1977–78484290
    1978–79548307
    Sources: Subsidy claim forms; CIPFA.
    * New towns are excluded.
    †Housing revenue account expenditure less other rents and other income divided by the number of local authority dwellings—including vacant dwellings. Costs include interest charges
    ‡ Average unrebated rent of local authority tenants, that is, excluding vacant dwellings.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is the highest cost authorised by his Department for the construction of (a) a two-bedroom council house, (b) a three-bedroom council house and (c) a four-bedroom council house.

    Nuclear Waste

    asked the Secretary of State for the Envronment if he will list the nuclear pollution papers now available, showing the latest results of research and development on radioactive waste management; and if he will publish these papers together with the report completed in the summer of 1979 regarding the transport of plutonium nitrate.

    The Department has recently issued research report 32 entitled "Review of Research on Radioactive Waste Management and Radioactivity in the Environment", a copy of which has been placed in the Library. The Department intends to report periodically, in the pollution paper series, the results of research and development on radioactive waste management, research into the effects of radioactivity and monitoring of radioactivity. The first paper is in preparation. Her Majesty's Stationery Office issues occasional reports of relevance to the current United Kingdom research programme in radioactive waste management. Articles by individal scientists are also published in specialist scientific journals.The report prepared by the Health and Safety Executive on proposals by the United Kingdom Atomic Energy Authority for transport of plutonium nitrate between Dounreay and Windscale will be published in due course.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he is seeking international agreement for ocean disposal of highly active solid waste such as is currently accumulating at Atomic Energy Authority and British Nuclear Fuels Ltd., sites; and if so, with whom, and with what success.

    No. Disposal at sea of high-level radioactive waste, as defined by the international Atomic Energy Agency, is prohibited under the present terms of the Convention on the Prevention of Marine Pollution by Dumping of Wastes and Other Matters—(the London dumping convention). Results from the current research programme into the feasibility of disposing of high level waste on or under the sea bed would need to be available before international discussions could be initiated.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he has long-term plans for long-term disposal of wastes now stored at Drigg; and, if so, why.

    Much of the lightly contaminated waste stored at Drigg can be disposed of in the deep sea in accordance with the provisions of the London dumping convention. The Government are supporting research into methods of treating the remaining wastes to make them suitable for disposal.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what heed has been taken by him regarding the criticism in Australia and the United States of America of the failure of the Atomic Energy Authority's Harvest vitrification of high-level radioactive waste as a permanent containment medium; and what changes are to be implemented in the project as a consequence.

    Such criticisms as have been made have questioned the behaviour of the Harvest material at high temperatures and pressures. In the United Kingdom the concept is to develop storage and disposal techniques so as to ensure that the waste will never be subject to such conditions. The Harvest vitrification process has so far proved a very satisfactory method of solidifying high level liquid radioactive waste. The resultant glass is highly resistant to radiation damage and leaching. Similar glasses are being developed by countries likely to have waste appropriate for this method of treatment, and it has already been demonstrated in France that they can be manufactured safely and reliably. Although other methods of solidification are also being studied in several countries, they need considerable research and development before they can be considered as potential alternatives to vitrification.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will list in the Official Report the EEC research work, and financial assistance for that work, regarding geological formations in Scotland in connection with nuclear waste disposal.

    The EEC has contributed to a number of research projects carried out by the United Kingdom Atomic Energy Authority into radioactive waste management. Of these only those related to geological investigations can be specifically related to particular areas of the United Kingdom. Between 1976 and 1979 the total allocated to investigations into crys- talline rock formations has been about £2,600,000 of which £880,000 has been contributed by the EEC. From these sums £260,000 has been spent on drilling at Altnabreac in Scotland to which the EEC contribution is about £100,000.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what will be the added need for waste burial sites if his new reactor programme commences.

    The Government recognise the importance of ensuring that safe methods are available for the disposal of all types of radioactive wastes. Methods already exist for dealing with many of the wastes arising from the present nuclear power programme and they can also be used for similar wastes from the recently announced reactor programme. This Department is co-ordinating a comprehensive research programme to determine the most appropriate disposal methods for the other wastes which are at present safely stored. The new reactor programme does not require a change in the research studies.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what consideration has been given to the relative merits of burying nuclear waste (a) in the sea or underground and (b) keeping it above ground in the vicinity of the small concentrated areas where it is now manufactured; and why he favours the former method of storage rather than storage in an environment where it could be constantly under scientific surveillance for the whole period of its storage.

    In its sixth report "Nuclear Power and the Environment" (Cmnd. 6618 1976) the Royal Commission on environmental pollution considered that any method of storing long-lived highly active radioactive wastes for the indefinite future was unacceptable because it would require human surveillance over very long periods and the stored wastes might be vulnerable to accidents, war and climatic changes. The Government agree that although storage is a necessary part of radioactive waste management, ways must be investigated for disposing of long-lived wastes away from man's environment.

    The Government are therefore co-ordinating and managing a comprehensive research programme into three possible disposal options: into geological formations on land, and on, and under, the ocean bed. It will be at least 10 years before a judgment can be made about the relative merits of each option, or about alternative methods for containing these wastes.

    Water And Sewerage Rates

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will introduce legislation to amend the Water Act to make provision for rebates of water and sewerage rates for the needy.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will introduce legislation to exempt from water charges water supplied to fire-fighting sprinkler systems.

    I am discussing this particular problem with the National Water

    RegionPostAppointedRelinquishedRemarks
    NorthernVice-ChairmanJ. H. WilmanJ. DunningResigned
    Yorkshire and HumbersideChairmanI. PatnickR. HoyleNot reappointed
    Vice-ChairmanN. AylingProf. A. PatmoreResigned post—remains as member
    West MidlandsChairmanW. J. SlaterC. CadburyNot reappointed but remains as member
    EasternChairmanF. J. HillP. WayreNot reappointed
    SouthernChairmanR A. AisherP. SageResigned post but remains as member
    All other chairmen and vice-chairmen have been reappointed.The appointments were made on general merit and ability to steer the regional councils concerned through complex tasks for the good of all interests they represent. It is my intention to have a reasonable balance between them.

    Water And Sewerage Industry (Consumers' Consultative Body)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will set up a consumers' consultative body for the water and sewerage industry, on the lines of the bodies which exist in the gas and electricity industries, so that the interests of consumers may be properly represented.

    The future of nationalised industry consumer bodies is under Council, the Water Companies Association and the North-West water authority, where this issue first arose. I expect to reach a conclusion soon.

    Sport And Recreation (Regional Councils)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will list the ministerial chairmen or vice-chairmen of regional councils of sport and recreation who have resigned or not been reappointed during his administration together with their broad classification as either sport and recreation and also their replacements together with similar classification: and if it remains his policy to ensure a proper balance of chairmen and vice-chairman as between sport, recreation and local government.

    The details of changes in ministerial nominations as chairmen and vice-chairmen of regional councils for sport and recreation under this Administration are as follows:review, and we will wish to consider the position of the water industry in relation to that review in due course.

    Regional Water Authorities

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will state which ministerial members of regional water authorities have resigned or not been reappointed during his administration, the reason for non reappointment in each case, their length of service upon the regional water authority and, if known, their political affiliations together with a list of their replacements, including their qualifications and. if known, their political affiliations.

    The following list is of members of water authorities who were appointed by the Secretary of State and have resigned or not been reappointed since May 1979, with their length of service, and the new appointments. Changes are necessary from time to time, and I do

    WATER AUTHORITY MEMERS: RESIGNATIONS SINCE MAY 1979
    AuthorityNameLength of serviceNew appointments
    NorthumbrianP.J.Davis1½ yearsN. J. B. Prynn
    Severn TrentB. C. Jones2½ yearsK. G. Robertson
    SouthernMrs. A. Ashworth1 year 2 monthsR. Millard
    ThamesN. N. B. Ordman2 years 11 monthsJ. D. Presland
    Non reappointments
    AnglianCanon R. O. Jennings3 yearsMiss N. M. Field
    AnglianMrs. S. F. Stern3 yearsA. Jones
    North WestMrs. D. Wilson1 year 5 monthsMaj. J. G. W. Skipwith
    Severn TrentCllr. E. J. Franklin6 years 4 monthsD. A. Pinnell
    Severn TrentD. Hutchings3 yearsM. G. Southall
    Severn TrentProf. M. J. Hamlin5 years 4 months2 vacancies
    Severn TrentMrs. F. Johnson3 years
    South WestT. C. Caylor3 yearsJ. E. Carleton
    South WestF. R. Ridd-Jones3 yearsVacancy
    ThamesP. D. Bromley5 yearsMiss V. A. McBride
    ThamesSir John Hanbury6 years 4 monthsC. N. Thompson
    WessexF. W. Cole3 yearsCol. P. J. Woodward

    Flood Precautions

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he is satisfied that the machinery of co-operation between regional water authorities, local authorities and voluntary agencies in coping with emergencies such as affected Christchurch during the recent severe floods; and if he will make a statement on the lessons learnt from these floods.

    The task of coping with such emergencies is one which the local authorities undertake. As I said on 28 December, I have been impressed by the way in which local services have dealt with the consequences of the recent flooding. I am sure that they will apply any lessons which they have learnt and see no need to offer general advice. I shall reply soon to the letter from my hon. Friend about particular problems in Christchurch.

    Rateable Valuations

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will seek to amend the law whereby an application for a reduction in rateable value due to a temporary inconvenience must be deemed to have lasted for at least 12 months before an amendment will be approved.

    There is no statutory rule to this effect. The statute defines rateable value in terms of the annual rent which a hypothetical tenant might be expected not consider it appropriate to publish reasons for non reappointment in individual cases, or political affiliations if known.to pay for a property. It is for the courts to determine as a matter of fact in each case how far a value determined in this way may be affected by a temporary inconvenience. I am not aware of any reason to seek to place a statutory restriction on the courts' discretion in this matter.

    Quangos

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will list in the Official Report the names of bodies to which he appoints members, other than civil servants, that have been established since May 1979, giving the names of those appointed to each and the estimated annual cost in each case.

    I have set up only one public body since May 1979—the London Housing Staff Commission.The commission is chaired by Mr. Philip Vine and there are two members; Mr. Wilfred Bowdell and Mr. John Dryden. All three are paid a daily fee. Government expenditure for this body is estimated at £16,000 for 1979–80.I have also announced the establishment, subject to parliamentary approval, of two urban development corporations.

    Hostels And Lodging Houses

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will now take steps to bring up to date the penalties provided in the Housing Acts where owners or managers fail to register a lodging house or to give information, permit overcrowding, or fail to comply with management regulations.

    I am considering with my right hon. Friend the Home Secretary the case for updating these penalties.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what steps he is taking to improve the information available on the problems associated with hostels, lodging houses and houses in multiple occupation; and which local authorities his Department's housing services advisory unit has visited in this connection.

    During the recent debate on this subject initiated by my hon. Friend the Member for Leeds, West (Mr. Dean) my hon. Friend informed the House of the two ways in which we hope to improve the information available to this Department on this kind of accommodation.—[Vol. 974, c. 1619–30.] This is the major research project on the accommodation problems of disadvantaged single people and the visits being made by the Department's housing services advisory unit to those local authorities with experience of multiple occupation. So far members of the unit have visited the local authorities in the following list.

    Houses In Multiple Occupation, Hostels, Lodging Houses

    List of Local Authorities visited as up to 24 January 1980 by the Housing Services Advisory Unit.

    • Darlington,
    • Manchester,
    • Newcastle,
    • North Tyneside,
    • South Tyneside,
    • Gateshead,
    • Sunderland.
    • Middlesbrough,
    • Leeds,
    • Bradford,
    • Stockton-on-Tees,
    • Hartlepool,
    • Coventry,
    • Nottingham,
    • Solihull,
    • Lewisham,
    • Barnet,
    • Barking,
    • Wandsworth,
    • Kensington and Chelsea,
    • Reigate and Banstead.

    Plus two Housing Associations visited to see hostels for single women.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many hostels have been provided by housing associations for each quarter in the years 1978 and 1979.

    The information requested is as follows:

    First quarterSecond quarterThird quarterFourth quarter
    19781312139
    19791314910
    These are hostels which have qualified for housing association grants. Information about other hostels provided by housing associations is not available.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what additional guidance he intends to issue to local authorities on the action they should take with regard to the provision of suitable hostel and lodging house accommodation.

    I shall consider whether additional guidance is necessary in the light of information gained from the research project on the accommodation problems of disadvantaged single people and the visits being made by the Department's housing services advisory unit to those local authorities with experience of multiple occupation, and from any additional material the Department may receive.