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New Clause 15

Volume 978: debated on Monday 11 February 1980

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GOVERNMENT FUNDING

  • '(1) For the put-pose of promoting the design, development or production of civil aircraft, the Secretary of State with the consent of the Treasury may at any time after the appointed date make payments in accordance with this section to the successor company or any of its wholly owned subsidiaries.
  • (2) No payments may be made under this section unless—
  • (a) the Secretary of State is of opinion that it is in the national interest that payments on the scale and in the way proposed should be made; and
  • (b) it appears to the Secretary of State that, if the payments are not made, it would be inconsistent with the objects of the com-
  • Division No. 169]

    AYES

    [9.52 pm

    Abse, LeoCrowther, J. S.Foulkes, George
    Adama, AllenCryer, BobFraser, John (Lambeth, Norwood)
    Allaun, FrankCunliffe, LawrenceFreeson Rt Hon Reginald
    Archer, Rt Hon PeterCunningham, George (Islington S)Garrett, John (Norwich S)
    Armstrong, Rt Hon ErnestCunningham, Dr John (Whitehaven)Garrett, W. E. (Wallsend)
    Ashley, Rt Hon JackDalyell, TarnGeorge, Bruce
    Ashton, JoeDavidson, ArthurGilbert, Rt Hon Dr John
    Atkinson, Norman (H'gey, Tott'ham)Davies, Rt Hon Denzil (Llanelli)Golding, John
    Barnett, Guy (Greenwich)Davies, Ifor (Gower)Gourlay, Harry
    Barnett, Rt Hon Joel (Heywood)Davis, Terry (B'rm'ham, Stechford)Grant, George (Morpeth)
    Beith, A. J.Deakins, EricGrant, John (Islington C)
    Benn, Rt Hon Anthony WedgwoodDean, Joseph (Leeds West)Hamilton, James (Bothwell)
    Bennett, Andrew (Stockport N)Dempsey, JamesHamilton, W. W. (Central Fife)
    Bidwell, SydneyDewar, DonaldHarrison, Rt Hon Walter
    Booth, Rt Hon AlbertDixon, DonaldHart, Rt Hon Dame Judith
    Boothroyd, Miss BettyDobson, FrankHattersley, Rt Hon Roy
    Bottomley, Rt Hon Arthur (M'brough)Dormand, JackHaynes, Frank
    Bradley, TomDouglas, DickHealey, Rt Hon Denis
    Bray, Dr JeremyDubs, AlfredHeffer, Eric S.
    Brown, Hugh D. (Provan)Duffy, A. E. P.Hogg, Norman (E Dunbartonshire)
    Brown, Robert C. (Newcastle W)Dunn, James A. (Liverpool, Kirkdale)Holland, Stuart (L'beth, Vauxhail)
    Brown, Ronald W. (Hackney S)Dunnett, JackHome Robertson, John
    Brown, Ron (Edinburgh, Leith)Eadie, AlexHomewood, William
    Buchan, NormanEastham, KenHooley, Frank
    Callaghan, Rt Hon J. (Cardiff SE)Edwards, Robert (Wolv SE)Horam, John
    Callaghan, Jim (Middleton & P)Ellis, Raymond (NE Derbyshire)Howell, Rt Hon Denis (B'ham, Sm H)
    Campbell, IanEllis, Tom (Wrexham)Huckfield, Les
    Canavan, DennisEnglish, MichaelHughes, Mark (Durham)
    Cant, R. B.Ennals, Rt Hon DavidHughes, Robert (Aberdeen North)
    Carmichael, NeilEvans, Ioan (Aberdare)Hughes Roy (Newport)
    Carter-Jones, LewisEvans, John (Newton)Janner, Hon Greville
    Cartwright, JohnEwing, HarryJay, Rt Hon Douglas
    Clark, Dr David (South Shields)Faulds AndrewJohnson, Walter (Derby South)
    Cocks, Rt Hon Michael (Bristol S)Field, FrankJones, Rt Hon Alec (Rhondda)
    Cohen, StanleyFitch, AlanJones, Barry (East Flint)
    Concannon, Rt Hon J. D.Flannery, MartinJones, Dan (Burnley)
    Conlan, BernardFlotcher, Ted (Darlington)Kaufman, Rt Hon Gerald
    Cook, Robin F.Foot, Rt Hon MichaelKerr, Russell
    Cowans, HarryForrester, JohnKilroy-Silk, Robert
    Craigen, J. M. (Glasgow, Maryhill)Foster, DerekKinnock, Neil

    pany imposed by or under section 1(2)( b) of this Act for the company or any of its wholly owned subsidiaries to undertake the design, development or production in question.

  • (3) Payments under this section may be made on any terms and conditions, and, without prejudice to the generality of this subsection, by way of fees or by any description of investment or lending or by the making of grants.
  • (4) There shall be defrayed out of moneys provided by Parliament any sums required by the Secretary of State for making payments under this section and any sums received by the Secretary of State in pursuance of the terms and conditions on which payments are made under this section shall be paid into the Consolidated Fund.'.—[Mr. Les Huckfield.]
  • Brought up, and read the First time.

    Question put, That the clause be read a Second time:—

    The House divided: Ayes 238, Noes 304.

    Lambie, DavidMorton, GeorgeSpearing, Nigel
    Lamborn, HarryMoyle, Rt Hon RolandSpriggs, Leslie
    Lamond, JamesNewens, StanleySlallard, A. W.
    Leighton, RonaldOakes, Rt Hon GordonStoddart, David
    Lestor, Miss Joan (Eton & Slough)Ogden, EricStott, Roger
    Lewis, Arthur (Newham North West)O'Halloran, MichaelStrang, Gavin
    Lewis, Ron (Carlisle)O'Neill, MartinStraw, Jack
    Litherland, RobertOrme, Rt Hon StanleySummersklll, Hon Dr Shirley
    Lofthouse, GeoffreyOwen, Rt Hon Dr DavidTaylor, Mrs Ann (Bolton West)
    Lyon, Alexander (York)Palmer, ArthurThomas, Dafydd (Merioneth)
    Lyons, Edward (Bradford West)Park, GeorgeThomas, Jeffrey (Abertillery)
    Mabon, Rt Hon Dr J. DicksonParker, JohnThomas, Mike (Newcastle East)
    McDonald, Dr OonaghPavitt, LaurieThorne, Stan (Preston South)
    McElhone, FrankPendry, TomTilley, John
    McKay, Allen (Penistone)Powell, Raymond (Ogmore)Tinn, James
    McKelvey, WilliamPrescott, JohnTorney, Tom
    MacKenzie, Rt Hon GregorPrice, Christopher (Lewisham West)Urwin, Rt Hon Tom
    Maclennan, RobertRace, RegVarley, Rt Hon Eric G.
    McMahon, AndrewRees, Rt Hon Merlyn (Leeds South)Wainwright, Edwin (Dearne Valley)
    Macmillan, Rt Hon M. (Farnham)Richardson, JoWalker, Rt Hon Harold (Doncaster)
    McNally, ThomasRoberts, Allan (Bootle)Watkins, David
    McNamara, KevinRoberts, Gwilym (Cannock)Weetch, Ken
    McWilliam, JohnRobertson, GeorgeWelsh, Michael
    Magee, BryanRobinson, Geoffrey (Coventry NW)White, Frank R. (Bury & Radcliffe)
    Marks, KennethRodgers, Rt Hon WilliamWhite, James (Glasgow, Pollok)
    Marshall, David (Gl'sgow, Shettles'n)Rooker, J. W.Whitehead, Phillip
    Marshall, Dr Edmund (Goole)Roper, JohnWhitlock, William
    Martin, Michael (Gl'gow, Springb'rn)Ross, Ernest (Dundee West)Williams, Rt Hon Alan (Swansea W)
    Mason, Rt Hon RoyRowlands, TedWilliams, Sir Thomas (Warrington)
    Maxton, JohnRyman, JohnWilson, Gordon (Dundee East)
    Maynard, Miss JoanSandelson, NevilleWilson, Rt Hon Sir Harold (Huyton)
    Meacher, MichaelSever, JohnWilson, William (Coventry SE)
    Mellish, Rt Hon RobertSheerman, BarryWinnick, David
    Mikardo, IanSheldon, Rt Hon Robert (A'ton-u-L)Woodall, Alec
    Millan, Rt Hon BruceShort, Mrs RenéeWrigglesworth, Ian
    Miller, Dr M. S. (East Kilbride)Silkin, Rt Hon John (Deptford)Young, David (Bolton East)
    Mitchell, Austin (Grimsby)Silkin, Rt Hon S. C. (Dulwich)
    Mitchell, R. C. (Soton, Itchen)Silverman, JuliusTELLERS FOR THE. AYES
    Morris, Rt Hon Alfred (Wythenshawe)Smith, Rt Hon J. (North Lanarkshire)Mr. Ted Graham and
    Morris, Rt Hon Charles (Openshaw)Snape, Peter Mr. Hugh McCartney
    Morris, Rt Hon John (Aberavon)Soley, Clive

    NOES

    Adley, RobertBuck, AntonyFell, Anthony
    Aitken, JonathanBudgen, NickFenner, Mrs Peggy
    Alexander, RichardBulmer, EsmondFisher, Sir Nigel
    Ancram, MichaelBurden, F. A.Fletcher, Alexander (Edinburgh N)
    Arnold, TomButcher, JohnFletcher-Cooke, Charles
    Aspinwall, JackButler, Hon AdamFookes, Miss Janet
    Atkins, Robert (Preston North)Cadbury, JocelynFor man, Nigel
    Atkinson, David (B'mouth, East)Carlisle, John (Luton West)Fowler, Rt Hon Norman
    Baker, Nicholas (North Dorset)Carlisle, Kenneth (Lincoln)Fox, Marcus
    Banks, RobertCarlisle, Rt Hon Mark (Runcorn)Fraser, Rt Hon H. (Stafford & St)
    Beaumont-Dark, AnthonyChalker, Mrs LyndaFraser, Peter (South Angus)
    Bell, Sir RonaldChannon, PaulFry, Peter
    Bendall, VivianChapman, SydneyGalbraith, Hon T. G. D.
    Benyon, Thomas (Abingdon)Clark, Hon Alan (Plymouth, Sutton)Gardiner George (Reigate)
    Benyon, W. (Buckingham)Clark, Sir William (Croydon South)Gardner, Edward (South Fylde)
    Berry, Hon AnthonyClarke, Kenneth (Rushcliffe)Garel-Jones, Tristan
    Best, KeithCockeram, EricGilmour, Rt Hon Sir Ian
    Bevan, David GilroyColvin, MichaelGlyn, Dr Alan
    Biffen, Rt Hon JohnCormack, PatrickGoodlad, Alastair
    Biggs-Davison, JohnCorrie, JohnGorst, John
    Blackburn, JohnCostain, A. P.Gow, Ian
    Blaker, PeterCranborne, ViscountGower, Sir Raymond
    Body, RichardCritchley, JulianGrant, Anthony (Harrow C)
    Bonsor, Sir NicholasCrouch, DavidGray, Hamish
    Boscawen, Hon RobertDean, Paul (North Somerset)Greenway, Harry
    Bottomley, Peter (Woolwich West)Dickens, GeoffreyGrieve, Percy
    Bowden, AndrewDorrell, StephenGriffiths, Eldon (Bury St Edmunds)
    Boyson, Dr RhodesDouglas-Hamilton, Lord JamesGriffiths, Peter (Portsmouth N)
    Bradford, Rev. R.Dover, DenshoreGrist, Ian
    Braine, Sir Bernarddu Cann, Rt Hon EdwardGrylls, Michael
    Bright, GrahamDunn, Robert (Dartford)Guramer, John Selwyn
    Brinton, TimDurant, TonyHamilton, Hon Archie (Eps'm&Ew'll)
    Brittan, LeonDykes, HughHamilton, Michael (Salisbury)
    Brocklebank-Fowler, ChristopherEden, Rt Hon Sir JohnHampson, Dr Keith
    Brooke,Hon PeterEggar, TimothyHannam, John
    Brotherton, MichaelElliott, Sir WilliamHaselhurst, Alan
    Brown, Michael (Brigg & Sc'thorpe)Emery, PeterHastings, Stephen
    Browne, John (Winchester)Fairbairn, NicholasHavers, Rt Hon Sir Michael
    Bruce-Gardyne, JohnFairgrieve, RussellHawksley, Warren
    Bryan, Sir PaulFaith, Mrs SheilaHayhoe, Barney
    Buchanan-Smith, Hon AlickFarr, JohnHeddle, John

    Henderson, BarryMills, Peter (West Devon)Shepherd, Richard (Aldridge-Br'hills)
    Haseltine, Rt Hon MichaelMiscampbell, NormanShersby, Michael
    Hicks, RobertMitchell, David (Basingstoke)Silvester, Fred
    Higgins, Rt Hon Terence L.Moate, RogerSims, Roger
    Hill, JamesMolyneaux, JamesSkeet, T. H. H.
    Hogg, Hon Douglas (Grantham)Monro, HectorSmith, Dudley (War. and Leam'ton)
    Holland, Philip (Carlton)Montgomery, FergusSpeed, Keith
    Hooson, TomMoore, JohnSpeller, Tony
    Hordern, PeterMorgan, GeraintSpence, John
    Howell, Rt Hon David (Guildlord)Morris, Michael (Northampton, Sth)Spicer, Jim (West Dorset)
    Howell, Ralph (North Norfolk)Morrison, Hon Charles (Devizes)Spicer, Michael (S Worcestershire)
    Hunt, David (Wirral)Morrison, Hon Peter (City of Chester)Squire, Robin
    Hunt, John (Ravensboume)Mudd, DavidStainton, Keith
    Hurd, Hon DouglasMurphy, ChristopherStanbrook, Ivor
    Irvine, Charles (Cheltenham)Myles, DavidStanley, John
    Jenkin, Rt Hon PatrickNeale, GerrardSteen, Anthony
    Johnson Smith, GeoffreyNeedham, RichardStevens, Martin
    Jopling, Rt Hon MichaelNelson, AnthonyStewart, Ian (Hitchin)
    Kershaw, AnthonyNeubert, MichaelStewart, John (East Renfrewshire)
    King, Rt Hon TomNewton, TonyStokes, John
    Kitson, Sir TimothyNott, Rt Hon JohnStradling Thomas, J.
    Knight, Mrs JillOnslow, CranleyTapsell, peter
    Knox, DavidOsborn, JohnTaylor, Robert (Croydon NW)
    Lamont,NormanPage, Rt Hon Sir R. GrahamTemple-Morris, Peter
    Lang, IanPage, Richard (SW Hertfordshire)Thatcher, Rt Hon Mrs Margaret
    Langford-Holt, Sir JohnParkinson, CecilThomas, Rt Hon Peter (Hendon S)
    Latham, MichaelParris, MatthewThompson, Donald
    Lawrence, IvanPatten, Christopher (Bath)Thornton, Malcolm
    Lawson, NigelPatten, John (Oxford)Townend, John (Bridlington)
    Lee, JohnPattie, GeoffreyTownsend, Cyril D. (Bexleyheath)
    Le Merchant, SpencerPawsey, JamesTrippier, David
    Lennox-Boyd, Kon MarkPercival, Sir IanTrotter, Neville
    Lester, Jim (Beeston)Peyton, Rt Hon JohnVaughan, Dr Gerard
    Lewis, Kenneth (Rutland)Pink, R. BonnerViggers, Peter
    Lloyd, Ian (Havant & Waterloo)Pollock, AlexanderWaddington, David
    Lloyd, Peter (Fareham)Porter, GeorgeWakeham, John
    Loveridge, JohnPowell, Rt Hon J. Enoch (S Down)Waldegrave, Kon William
    Luce, RichardPrice, David (Eastleigh)Walker, Rt Hon Peter (Worcester)
    Lyell, NicholasPrior, Rt Hon JamesWalker, Bill (Perth & E Perthshire)
    McCrindle, RobertProctor, K. HarveyWalker-Smith, Rt Hon Sir Derek
    Macfarlane, NeilPym, Rt Hon FrancisWalters, Dennis
    MacKay, John (Argyll)Raison, TimothyWard, John
    McNair-Wilson, Michael (Newbury)Rathbone, TimWarren, Kenneth
    McNair-Wilson, Patrick (New Forest)Rees, Peter (Dover and Deal)Watson, John
    McOuarrie, AlbertRees-Davies, W. R.Wells, John (Maidstone)
    Madel, DavidRenton, TimWells, Bowen (Hert'rd & Stev'nage)
    Major, JohnRhodes James, RobertWheeler, John
    Marland, PaulRidley, Hon NicholasWhitelaw, Rt Hon William
    Marlow, TonyRidsdale, JulianWhitney, Raymond
    Marshall, Michael (Arundel)Rifkind, MalcolmWickenden, Keith
    Marten, Neil (Banbury)Roberts, Wyn (Conway)Wiggin, Jerry
    Mates, MichaelRoss, Wm. (Londonderry)Wilkinson, John
    Mather, CarolRossi, HughWilliams, Delwyn (Montgomery)
    Maude, Rt Hon AngusRost, PeterWinterton, Nicholas
    Mawby, RayRoyle, Sir AnthonyWolfson, Mark
    Mawhinney, Dr BrianSainsbury, Hon TimothyYoung, Sir George (Acton)
    Maxwell-Hyslop, RobinSt. John Stevas, Rt Hon NormanYounger, Rt Hon George
    Mayhew, PatrickScott, Nicholas
    Mellor, DavidShaw, Giles (Pudsey)TELLERS FOR THE NOES:
    Meyer, Sir AnthonyShaw, Michael (Scarborough) Mr. John MacGregor and
    Miller, Hal (Bromsgrove & Redditch)Shelton, William (Streatham)Mr. John Cope.
    Mills, Iain (Meriden)Shepherd, Colin (Hereford)

    Question accordingly negatived.

    It being after Ten o'clock further consideration of the Bill stood adjourned.

    Ordered,

    That, at this day's sitting, the British Aerospace Bill may be proceeded with, though opposed, until any hour.—[ Mr. Waddington.]

    Bill, as amended ( in the Standing Committee), again considered.