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Written Answers

Volume 32: debated on Thursday 18 November 1982

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Written Answers To Questions

Thursday 18 November 1982

Trade

Balance Of Trade

asked the Minister for Trade if he will list in the Official Report the United Kingdom balance of trade—visible and invisible as a whole—surpluses and deficits with each country for the last 12 months for which figures are readily available

The available information which can be provided within acceptable cost limits is given in the following table. It shows the crude trade surplus or deficit with some major trading partners. Corresponding figures for other countries may be derived from table 1B of the appropriate volumes of the Overseas Trade Statistics.

United Kingdom Crude Balances of Visible Trade, September 1981—August 1982
£million
France+43
Belgium-Luxembourg-631
Netherlands+22
Federal Republic of Germany-1,396
Italy-629
Irish Republic+981
Denmark-203
Norway-1,136
Sweden+96
Finland-349
Switzerland-569
Spain-27
Nigeria+1,183
South Africa+517
Saudi Arabia-343
Iraq+749
India+396
Hong Kong-158
Japan-1,940
Australia+583
Canada-669
USA+339
All other countries+884
TOTAL-2,256

Notes:

1 Trade in invisibles is not available by partner country.

2. The crude balance of trade is exports valued fob minus imports valued cif.

Exports-Imports (Statistics)

asked the Minister for Trade what has been the export-import ratio for United Kingdom trade with the other member States of the European Community, the rest of Western Europe, North America and Japan in each year since 1972; and what was the export-import ratio for manufactured goods with these areas in 1981.

The information is as follows:

Export/Import Ratios*of United Kingdom Trade
per cent.
Trade with:Rest of European CommunityWestern Europe excluding ECNorth AmericaJapan
(a) Total Trade
197283899555
197374798761
197472817756
197571927846
197680937945
197786968244
197884848542
197987828241
1980104997635
19811008710028
(b) Manufactures ║ ¶
198181887923

Notes:

* Exports divided by imports expressed as a percentage.

† Including Greece, Denmark, and Ireland throughout.

‡ With the exception of Japan for which only data on an Overseas Trade Statistics basis are available, these ratios are derived from data on Balance of Payments basis. For comparison purposes, the ratios in 1981 on Overseas Trade Statistics basis for the European Community, rest of the Western Europe, and North America respectively were 97, 81, and 94.

Taken as Standard International Trade Classification sections 5 to 8.

¶ Exports and imports on Overseas Trade Statistics basis—i.e. exports fob; imports cif.

Source: Overseas Trade Statistics.

Seamen's Dispute (Liverpool)

asked the Minister for Trade if he will make an assessment of the impact on trade of the seamen's dispute in Liverpool.

I am not aware of any dispute in Liverpool which is affecting our overseas trade.

Blind And Handicapped Persons (Equipment Exports)

asked the Minister for Trade whether he has taken steps to bring to the notice of exporters of equipment for blind and handicapped people the relief from duties which may be available under the Florence agreement and Nairobi protocol; and if he will make a statement.

Arrangements will be made for suitable publicity to be given on an appropriate occasion to the provisions of the Florence agreement and the Nairobi protocol.

Heating Radiators (Imports)

asked the Minister for Trade if he will publish in the Official Report the import figures for central heating radiators from countries outside and inside the European Economic Community for the past five years, indicating the quarterly returns of imports of radiators for each country.

Exports

asked the Minister for Trade (1) what percentage of United Kingdom manufactured exports goes to less developed countries; and what has been the trend in this figure in recent years;(2) what is the United Kingdom balance of trade in manufactured goods with less developed countries; and what is the balance of payments with such countries.

asked the Minister for Trade if he will set out the proportion of United Kingdom imports covered by exports in volume terms for manufactured goods, for each of the last eight years from Germany, France, Italy, Sweden, the European Economic Community as a whole, the United States of America, Japan, the rest of the world, excluding the European Economic Community, and Brazil, for each of the last eight years, ending on 30 September in each case.

I shall reply to the hon. Member and my hon. Friend as soon as possible.

Unctad Liner Code

asked the Minister for Trade what is his definition of a British ship for the purpose of implementing the provisions of the United Nations Conference on Trade and Development Liner Code.

Yorkshire Electricity Consultative Council (Chairman)

asked the Minister for Trade what were the claims for expenses by the present chairman of the Yorkshire electricity consultative council for each calendar year from 1974 to 1978 inclusive, and in total, from the date of his appointment to the latest available date.

Company Law

asked the Minister for Trade what progress he is making in the consolidation of company law.

I have been asked to reply.Good progress is being made in the exercise of consolidating the Companies Act. Although it is proving to be an elaborate and difficult exercise because of the exceptional volume and complexity of the legislation in question, it is hoped to introduce a consolidation Bill or Bills in the Session 1983–84 with a view to enactment in 1984.

Handicapped Persons (Import Concessions)

asked the Minister for Trade on what date the United Kingdom ratified European Economic Community Regulation No. 1028/79 of 8 May 1979 on the importation free of common customs tariff duties of articles for the use of handicapped persons; and if any member States have not yet ratified the regulation.

[pursuant to his reply, 17 November 1982, c. 160.]: This regulation came into force on 1 January 1980, and was binding on member States from that date.

asked the Minister for Trade, in the last year for which figures are available, how many applications of relief for duty were made under EEC Regulation No. 1028/79 on the importation free of common customs tariff duties of articles for the use of handicapped persons, annex E paragraph 1 and annex E paragraph 2, respectively; how many applications were approved under each paragraph; and if he will make a statement.

[pursuant to his reply, 17 November 1982, c. 160.]: The information for applications made in the United Kingdom is as follows:

1981
Articles for the blind*Articles for other handicapped persons
Applications received335
allowed314
disallowed21

* annex E paragraph 1

† annex E paragraph 2

asked the Minister for Trade if he has made representations to the European Commission concerning the extension of the concessions in the EEC Regulation No. 1028/79 to handicapped individuals importing goods from outside the European Community as well as approved organisations; and if he will make a statement.

[pursuant to his reply, 17 November 1982, c. 160]: The Council of the European Communities is at present considering proposals for an extension of the duty-free concessions set out in Regulation No. 1028/79 so that articles imported by handicapped persons for their own use will also be eligible for relief. We hope the new relief will come into effect on 1 July 1984.

Textiles And Clothing

asked the Minister for Trade what was the balance of trade in textiles and clothing with (a) other European Economic Community countries, (b) the rest of the world for 1981 and for 1982 to the most recent practicable date.

[pursuant to his reply, 17 November 1982, c. 161]: The available information is as follows:

United Kingdom Crude Balance of Trade in Textiles and Textile Clothing, January-September 1982
European Community £ millionOther countries £ million
-445-601

Source:

Overseas Trade Statistics, Divisions 65 and 84 (excluding group 848), groups 266 and 267 and sub-group 268·7 (part).

Notes:

1. The crude balance of trade is equivalent to exports valued fob less imports valued cif.

2. Corresponding information for 1981 is not yet available owing to the effects of the Civil Service pay dispute in that year.

Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

Land Settlement Association

asked the Minister of Agriculture. Fisheries and Food if he is satisfied with the state of the smallholdings under the jurisdiction of the Land Settlement Association; and if he will make a statement.

I refer the hon. Member to the reply I gave to him on 17 November.—[Vol. 32, c. 196–7.]

United Kingdom and EEC Market Prices (as at the end of October)
£**
CommodityGermanyFranceItalyNetherlandsBelgiumLuxembourgIrelandDenmarkGreeceUnited Kingdom
Common Wheat▪per tonne breadmaking quality123·1105·7113·2118·3106·8#N/A107·9108·5119·3
Barley▪ per tonne109·698·4111·7112·498·0#99·297·496·8107·4
*
Milk: (a) raw milk 100kg1·361·211·651·421·071·131·101·51N/A1·38
Beef (b)▪ per kg liveweight0·930·880·920·850·890·910·740·751·000·90
Lamb (b)*per kg deadweight2·071·972·291·992·011·791·473·161·34
Footnotes:

* June 1982.

† May 1982.

‡ February 1982.

║July 1982.

¶ April 1982.

• August 1982.

▪ Week ending 28 October 1982.

* Week ending 24 October 1982.

# No separate price reporting for Luxembourg (prices included in Belgian price).

** Converted to £ from national currencies at the market rate of exchange.

Source:

(a) European Communities (Eurostat), Luxembourg.

(b) EC Commission.

Wheat

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what representations have been made to him about the fact that a lower proportion of British wheat is accepted under the European Economic Community intervention scheme than is the case with French wheat; and if he will take steps to ensure more equitable treatment for the British farmer.

I have received a number of letters expressing concern that the proportion of bread wheat offered for intervention which passes the tests laid down in Community regulations is lower in the United Kingdom than in some other member States. Research commissioned by my Department indicates how far the problem may be caused by the prescribed machinability test. The results of that research have been passed to the Commission who are now reviewing the value of this test.

Commodity Prices

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will make a comparison between the current United Kingdom market price and the European Economic Community market price for (a) wheat, (b) barley, (c) milk, (d) butter, (e) beef and (f) lamb; and if he will make a statement.

The following table gives the latest available market prices in the United Kingdom and in other member States for the commodities requested at the first-hand stage. I regret that it is not possible to give comparable prices for butter.

Butter

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what steps he intends to take to prevent subsidised butter passing to the Soviet Union through third countries.

The arrangements for managing the export refunds system are a matter within the competence of the Commission. We have drawn their attention to the reports of possible re-export of butter to the USSR.

Hill Livestock Compensatory Allowances

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he has completed his review of hill livestock compensatory allowances; and if he will make a statement.

The Government recognise the fundamental importance to United Kingdom agriculture of the hill areas and have been determined to build up confidence among hill farmers. I am therefore very glad to be able to inform the House that the review which my right hon. Friends and I have carried out this autumn, in conjunction with the farmers unions, has shown that, following the improvement noted last year, there has been a further significant improvement in the situation of the hill farming industry.The decline in the number of hill cows has slowed down and there are signs that it may be levelling out, while hill sheep numbers continue to show a significant increase. Incomes in real terms are now almost back to their best-ever levels. An important factor in this welcome recovery of both income levels and confidence has been the substantial increases made by this Government in the hill livestock allowances which, including the suckler cow premium, are now over 80 per cent. higher than they were in 1979.The outlook for the hill livestock producers continues to be relatively favourable and the Government are determined to sustain the confidence of the hill farmers. I am pleased to announce, therefore, that the rates of compensatory allowance for 1983 are to be maintained at their present record high levels.

Fishing Industry

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will specify the total United Kingdom catch in third country waters in each year from 1969 to 1981 and indicate the average total catch over the periods 1969 to 1975 and 1976 to 1982.

[pursuant to his reply, 11 November 1982, c. 240]: The estimated total United Kingdom catch from third country waters in the years specified is as follows:

'000 tonnes (liveweight)
1969447
1970433
1971368
1972321
1973333
1974333
1975292
1976229
1977148
197861
197934
198023
198114
The average United Kingdom total catch from all areas was 1,056,000 tonnes in the period 1969–1975 and 930,000 tonnes in the period 1976–81. Complete figures for 1982 are not yet available.

Sources:

Bulletin Statistique (International Council for the Exploration of the Sea).

Statistical Bulletin—(International Commission for the North-West Atlantic Fisheries, from 1979 the North-West Atlantic Fisheries Organisation)].

Civil Service

Children's Play

asked the Minister for the Civil Service (1) if he is now able to state the composition of the Advisory Committee on Children's Play;(2) further to the statement,

Official Report, 20 October, c. 483, if he will publish the recommendations of the inter-departmental committee on children's play.

It is not the normal practice to publish advice by officials on machinery of Government questions nor the composition of such official working parties. The question of responsibility for children's play is still being studied by Ministers. I am not aware of any external advisory committee on children's play.

Attorney-General

Blood Use (Prosecution)

asked the Attorney-General whether, pursuant to his replies, Official Report, 23 March, c. 290, 15 June, c. 239 and 28 July, c. 544, the Director of Public Prosecutions has now decided whether to initiate a prosecution in connection with the use of blood at a London hospital.

The result of the police investigation has not yet been reported to the Director of Public Prosecutions.

Defence

Command Structure (Brigades)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence on what dates brigades were reintroduced into the Army command structure; which numbers have been allocated to the brigades (a) in the United Kingdom and (b) in Germany; and what is the location of the United Kingdom brigade headquarters.

The Army Board reintroduced the title of brigade into the British Army of the Rhine on 1 January 1981 and into United Kingdom Land Forces on 1 January 1982.The locations and numbers of the brigade headquarters in the United Kingdom, some of which would move to Germany in war, are:

Location
1st Infantry BrigadeTidworth
2nd Infantry BrigadeShorncliffe
2nd Signals BrigadeAldershot
5 Infantry BrigadeAldershot
8 Infantry BrigadeLondonderry
11 Signals BrigadeLiverpool
12 Signals BrigadeLondon
15 Infantry BrigadeTopcliffe
19 Infantry BrigadeColchester
23 Artillery BrigadeChester
29 Engineer BrigadeNewcastle
30 Engineer BrigadeStafford
39 Infantry BrigadeLisburn
49 Infantry BrigadeChilwell
51 Highland BrigadePerth
52 Lowland BrigadeEdinburgh
In order to improve the command and control arrangements for Home Defence, two new brigade headquarters are to be established on 1 January 1983. These are 42 Infantry Brigade at Chester and 54 Infantry Brigade at Grantham. The numbers allocated to brigades in Germany are 4, 6, 7, 11, 12, 20, 22, 24 and 33; 24 Brigade will be re-located to the United Kingdom in March 1983.

Edatst Minesweepers

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether it is still proposed to order 12 Edatst minesweepers.

In our first defence White Paper—Cmnd 7826—we confirmed previous intentions to proceed with a new class of minesweepers. We have recently placed an order for the first batch of four. Decisions on subsequent orders will be taken in due course.

Royal Marine Bands

asked the Secretary of State for Defence which Royal Marine bands went to the Falklands during the recent conflict; and what were their duties.

The band of Royal Marines Commando Forces served on board SS "Canberra" and the band of Flag Officer, Third Flotilla on board SS "Uganda". Bandsmen undertook a variety of duties, including acting as stretcher bearers and guarding prisoners of war. They also, of course, helped to entertain those on board the ships.

International Military Services Ltd

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he will make a statement about the implications for International Military Services Ltd. of his policy for the Royal ordnance factories.

Following my right hon. Friend's announcement on the future status of the Royal ordnance factories—[Vol. 24, c. 151]—consideration is now being given to the size and shape of the new sales and marketing organisation for the Royal ordnance factories. Meanwhile International Military Services is continuing with its present role in the overseas sales of Royal ordnance factories and other products and, as its own marketing and sales capability develops, the Royal ordnance factories will still be able to use International Military Services like any other British company, particularly in the co-ordination of training, equipment and infrastructure packages.In the past three years, International Military Services has diversified its overseas sales activities and has a substantial current order book in a wide range of customer countries, with an increasing share of its business from the private rather than the public sector. Its latest published accounts show a steady improvement in its financial position over the same period. This is a credit to the company's staff, who have adapted readily to changing circumstances. We are confident that International Military Services will have an important role to play in assisting the sale overseas of British military equipment for the foreseeable future.

Employment

Consett

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will give an analysis of the unemployed in the Consett travel-to-work area according to the Standard Industrial Classification.

The following table gives for May 1982, the last date for which an industrial analysis was made, the numbers of people registered as unemployed in the Consett travel-to-work area who last worked in the industries specified.

Standard Industrial Classification, 1968
Agriculture, forestry, fishing73
Mining and quarrying354
Food, drink and tobacco82
Coal and petroleum products7
Chemicals and allied industries37
Metal manufacture1,848
Mechanical engineering785
Instrument engineering
Electrical engineering195
Shipbuilding and marine engineering12
Vehicles63
Metal goods not elsewhere specified55
Textiles236
Leather, leather goods and fur16
Clothing and footwear114
Bricks, pottery, glass, cement, etc.110
Timber, furniture, etc.77
Paper, printing and publishing22
Other manufacturing industries99
Construction914
Gas, electricity and water21
Transport and communication171
Distributive trades445
Insurance, banking, finance and business services75
Professional and scientific services249
Miscellaneous services488
Public administration and defence279
Not classified by industry (including school leavers)1,247
TOTAL8,074

Short-Time Working Subsidy

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many jobs in (a) the North West, (b) Merseyside, (c) Kirkby and (d) Ormskirk travel-to-work areas have been dependent on temporary short-time working subsidy in each year since its introduction.

I regret that statistics in the form requested are not readily available below regional level and could be extracted only at disproportionate cost. However, the following tables show the figures requested for the North-West region for each year since the introduction of the temporary short time working compensation scheme and the figures requested for all areas for September 1982:

North West Region
Column 1Column 2
YearNumber of potentially redundant jobs covered by applications that were approved in column 1
April 1979 to March 198027,829
April 1980 to March 198196,012
April 1981 to March 198228,038
April 1982 to September 19827,796
Column 1Column 2
AreaNumber of potentially redundant jobs for which reimbursement for support was claimed in September 1982
North West Region6,013
Merseyside Special Development Area416
Kirkby Employment Office Area35
Ormskirk Travel-to-Work Area35

Factory Closures

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many factory closures in (a) the North West, (b) Merseyside, (c) Kirkby, and (d) Ormskirk travel-to-work areas there have been since May 1979; and how many workers were involved in each area.

There are no comprehensive statistics on closures or redundancies. The available information on closures and associated redundancies, involving 10 or more employees, reported to the Manpower Services Commission as due to occur in each of the areas is given in the following table.

Closures reported as due to occur, May 1979 to September 1982*
Number of EstablishmentsNumber of Redundancies involved
North West region1,45397,498
Merseyside special development area29821,173
Kirkby employment office area222,842
Ormskirk travel-to-work area17936
* Including revised provisional figures for September 1982

Liverpool Seamen

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is the current level of unemployment amongst Liverpool seamen; and what is the level nationally.

At 9 September, the number of unemployed people registered at employment offices in Liverpool for employment as seamen was 160. The corresponding number for the United Kingdom was 2,944. The figures include deck and engine-room hands (sea-going) and ships' masters, pilots and deck, engineer and radio officers.

International Labour Organisation (Conference)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he has received the preparatory questionaire from the International Labour Organisation about a conference on hotels, restaurants and similar establishments to be held in December 1983; what consultations he intends to have and with whom; and whether the Government's response to the questionaire will be made available to interested trade unions.

The questionaire has been received and has been sent to the Confederation of British Industry and the Trades Union Congress, with a request for information to be included in the United Kingdom reply. The Government's response will be made available to both organisations.

Textile And Clothing Industries

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what are the total numbers of people employed in the textile and clothing industries, respectively; and what were the figures for April 1979.

At August 1982, the latest date for which the information is available, the provisional numbers of employees in employment in the textiles and clothing industries in Great Britain were 322,200 and 231,600, respectively. The corresponding figures at April 1979 were 448,400 and 290,400.

"Graduate Post"

asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether he intends to continue to subsidise the publication of "Graduate Post"; and if he will make a statement.

Training Schemes (Handicapped Persons)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if school leavers with special educational needs, including mentally handicapped pupils and young people, will be admitted to the proposed new training schemes and in particular the new training initiative on an equal basis with their non-handicapped peers.

[pursuant to his reply, 17 November 1982, c. 181–2]: Sixteen and 17-year-old school leavers with special needs will be able to take part in the youth training scheme, provided it is felt that they will benefit from the training and work experience that the scheme will provide. These issues will shortly be considered by the youth training board, which will oversee the scheme.

National Finance

Value Added Tax

asked the Chancellor of the Exhequer, using any convenient business classification available, what is the critical turnover with respect to value added tax where the cost of collection about equals the amount of tax assessed; and if he will make a statement.

The amounts of VAT paid to Customs and Excise by registered traders are not dependent upon turnover but upon the difference between the amount of VAT charged on the goods and services they sell and on those they buy. The net yield of VAT would normally exceed the cost of collection for a trader whose added value is more than £650 or so a year and whose outputs are all liable at the standard rate of VAT.

Industrial Civil Servants

Ross asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will take steps to make the same arrangements for industrial civil servants with pre-war records of employment as those who joined after July 1949 so far as their length of service for pension qualification is concerned.

Economic Policy

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will revise the figures given in both the appendix 5 of the Treasury and Civil Service Committee report, Session 1981–82 on "The Government's Economic Policy: Autumn Review" and the updated figures given in the answer to the hon. Member for Oldham, West (Mr. Meacher) on 25 October 1982 for those on 75 per cent., 100 per cent., 200 per cent. and 500 per cent. of national average earnings for single, married and married plus two children families, including data on gross earnings, income tax, national insurance contributions, child benefit, net earnings and indirect taxes and net earnings net of indirect taxes in each case on the basis of the most recently available price base and showing the years 1978–79 to 1982–83 and as far back to 1945 as figures will allow and including an estimate for 1983–84 on the basis of announced policy changes and the conventional assumptions incorporated in the latest forecast required under the Industry Act 1975.

Personal Incomes

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will estimate the level of income in current prices and expressed as a percentage of national average earnings above which single people, married couples and married couples with two children in each case now pay less income tax and national insurance contributions—less child benefit where applicable—as a total sum of money in constant prices and as a proportion of gross earnings than they did in 1978–79; and whether he will estimate the same level of income for 1983–84 on the basis of announced policy changes and the conventional assumptions incorporated in the latest forecast required under the Industry Act 1975.

Income Tax

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer (1) if he will estimate the size of the cut in the standard rate of income tax to the nearest 0·1 penny now required to reduce the total tax payments—income tax, national insurance contributions, indirect taxes less child benefit where applicable—for those on 75 per cent., 100 per cent. and 200 per cent. of national average earnings for single people, married couples and married couples with two children families in each case to the same proportion of gross earnings as in 1978–79;(2) if he will estimate the size of the cut in the standard rate of income tax to the nearest 0·1 penny which would be required in the financial year 1982–83 and in 1983–84 to reduce the total tax payments—income tax, national insurance contributions, indirect taxes less child benefit where applicable—for those on 75 per cent., 100 per cent. and 200 per cent. of national average earnings for single people, married couples and married couples with two children families in each case to the same total sum of money in constant prices as in 1978–79;(3) if he will express total tax payments—income tax, national insurance contributions, indirect taxes less child benefit where applicable—for single people, married couples and married couples plus two children families at 75 per cent., 100 per cent., 200 per cent. and 500 per cent. of national average earnings in each case as a percentage of their gross weekly earnings for each year until 1982-83 as far back to 1945 as data allows and including an estimate for 1983–84 on the basis of announced policy changes and the conventional assumptions incorporated in the latest forecast required under the Industry Act 1975.

European Community (Finance Council Meeting)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will make a statement about the meeting of the European Community Finance Council in Brussels on 15 November.

I represented the United Kingdom at this Council. Ministers considered a Commission communication on investment promotion, together with an opinion from the Economic Policy Committee. They concluded that a pre-condition for a revival of investment was the creation of the right macroeconomic background. A copy of the Council conclusions on this point will be placed in the Library.The Council also heard a presentation by the Commission on its proposal for a Council decision to authorise a further tranche under the new Community instrument of 3,000 million ecu—about £1,650 million.the Council also had an exchange of views in preparation for the Joint Council of Finance and Employment Ministers the following day.

European Community Joint Council Of Employment And Finance Ministers (Meeting)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will make a statement about the European Community Joint Council of Employment and Finance Ministers in Brussels on 16 November.

My right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Employment and I represented the United Kingdom at this Council. The discussions covered three aspects of the employment situation: the economic background, youth employment and the reorganisation of working time. The Council had before it a communication from the Commission covering these subjects.On the economic background, Ministers agreed that a lasting increase in employment could spring only from a strenghtening of competitiveness and profitability. This necessitates further falls in inflation and interest rates, both of which require continuing firm fiscal and monetary policies. The Council agreed that control and redistribution of public expenditure and a reduction of budget deficits was indispensable.The Council also considered the related questions of investment, the strengthening of the internal market and industrial policy. Ministers noted the work which was being done in the Finance Council on investment; agreed that a session of the Council designed to make substantial progress towards the completion of the common market would be useful; and called for greater emphasis on new technologies at both national and Community level, bearing in mind their importance in sustained industrial recovery.On youth employment and the possible reorganisation of working time, the Council noted recent and prospective communications from the Commission, and called for them to be dealt with rapidly. The Council expressed its deep concern about the employment situation for young people and recalled the guidelines from the March European Council, which emphasised the central place of youth employment in the Community's strategy to combat unemployment. The Council reaffirmed its commitment to ensure, over the next five years, that all young people entering the labour market for the first time should be given the opportunity of taking vocational training or a first job experience. The Council also stressed that a reorganisation of working time should not impair the competitive position of firms.The Council invited the Commission to undertake a study of long term unemployment with a view to possible remedial action.

Income Tax and NIC as a Percentage of Earnings Multiple of Average Earnings
2/31510
Single
1981–8229·7(107)32·4(102)46·7(89)53·3(79)
1982–8330·4(110)33·2(105)46·3(88)53·1(78)
Married with No Children Multiple of Average Earnings
1981–8225·2(114)29·4(105)45·5(89)52·7(79)
1982–8325·7(116)30·3(108)45·0(88)52·5(79)
Married with Two Children (both under 11) Multiple of Average Earnings
1981–8222·0(118)27·6(110)44·9(90)52·4(79)
1982–8323·3(125)28·1(112)44·4(89)52·2(79)
Married with Four Children (Two under 11, one 11–15, one over 16) Multiple of Average Earnings
1981–8221·0(143)26·0(117)44·3(92)52·0(80)
1982–8321·3(145)26·5(119)43·9(91)51·8(79)

Wales

Educational Expenditure

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what was the total expenditure on (a) GCE O-level and CSE examinations and (b) the assessment of performance unit in each of the past five years.

(b) The assessment of performance unit is an integral part of the Department of Education and Science and I refer the hon. Member to the reply given today by my hon. Friend the Under-Secretary of State for Education and Science, the hon. Member for Brent, North (Dr. Boyson).

Unemployment Statistics

asked the Secretary of State for Wales (1) how many people are currently unemployed in (a) Wales, (b) Gwent and (c) each travel-to-work area covered by the Bedwellty constituency;

A copy of the conclusions of the Council will be placed in the Library.

Income Tax And National Insurance

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will update the table he published in reply to a question from the hon. Member for Birkenhead (Mr. Field) on 27 November 1981, Official Report, c. 495–8, in respect of the proportions of earnings taken by income tax and national insurance contributions.

[pursuant to his reply, 8 November 1982, Vol. 31, c. 15]: The attached tables show, for 1981–82 and 1982–83, income tax and national insurance contributions as a percentage of gross earnings plus child benefit—where appropriate—with changes in those percentages shown in brackets in index number form, taking 1978–19= 100. The calculations assume that the taxpayer has no allowances or reliefs other than the appropriate personal allowance. National insurance contributions are at the not-contracted-out rate. For illustration, an increase of 9 per cent. has been assumed in earnings between 1981–82 and 1982–83.(2) what has been the percentage increase in unemployment since May 1979 in

(a) Wales, (b) Gwent and (c) each travel-to-work area covered by the Bedwellty constituency;

(3) how many (a) men, (b) women and (c) young people under 20 years of age have been unemployed for more than a year in (i) Wales, (ii) Gwent and (iii) each travel-to-work area covered by the Bedwellty constituency;

(4) how many unemployed school leavers there are in (a) Wales, (b) Gwent and (c) each travel-to-work area covered by the Bedwellty constituency;

(5) how many young people in (a) Wales, (b) Gwent and (c) each travel-to-work area covered by the Bedwellty constituency have never had a full-time job since leaving school;

(6) how many people are currently on each of the temporary employment measures in (a) Wales, (b) Gwent and (c) each travel-to-work area covered by the Bedwellty constituency;

(7) how many redundancies have been reported since May 1979 in (a) Wales, (b) Gwent and (c) each travel-to-work area covered by the Bedwellty constituency; and how many are pending;

(8) how many factory closures have been reported since May 1979 and how many employees have been involved in (a) Wales, (b) Gwent and (c) each travel-to-work area covered by the Bedwellty constituency;

(9) how many disabled people are (a) currently unemployed and (b) have been unemployed for more than a year in (i) Wales, (ii) Gwent and (iii) each travel-to-work area covered by the Bedwellty constituency.

The Bedwellty constituency covers parts of four travel-to-work areas. I shall write to the hon. Member.

Welsh Water Authority (Claims)

asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many complaints against the Welsh water authority were made to the Commission for Local Administration in the last five years; and in how many cases maladministration was found.

The number of complaints against the Welsh water authority received by the Commission for Local Administration in Wales during the five years ending 31 March 1982 were 4, 4, 1, 9, 7 respectively: the number of reports issued in those same financial years in

Advanced course enrolments at maintained and grant-aided establishments in Wales
(a) By mode of study
Full-timeSandwichPart-timeEveningTotal
MaleFemaleMaleFemaleMaleFemaleMaleFemaleMaleFemale
19748078261,3691413,040525514475,7301,539
19751,3261,8701,4452473,024537843486,6432,702
19761,6392,3191,7432833,0045649671247,3533,290
19772,2253,5991,7523143,258758897828,1324,753
19782,1762,8871,9164343,607969877938,5764,383
19792,0712,7862,0945473,6541,0318291308,6484,494
19802,3262,6262,2446063,9071,0978622229,3394,551
19815,6623,1355,2181,12015,135
(b) By standard group of study
1978197919801981
MaleFemaleMaleFemaleMaleFemaleMale and Female
Education1,1511,9001,0791,8941,1561,7172,821
Medical, health and welfare230439217433209427662
Engineering and Technology2,924513,128593,504704,192
Agriculture95271423411040166
Science7151518061961,0032681,462
Social, administrative and business studies2,6508592,3889372,5791,0693,769
Professional and vocational subjects414438430418239396660
Language, literature and area studies15106586791119
Arts other than language102124110129121155350
Music, drama, art and design280288343308411318934

Urban Programme

asked the Secretary of State for Wales whether he will review the level of allocations for the urban programme in the current year.

I have decided to approve a further £1·47 million of capital expenditure on urban programme schemes for 1982–83. This brings the total urban programme allocation for Wales in 1982–83 to 16·8 million. which maladministration was found against the authority were 3 including maladministration by an agent authority, nil, 1, 1 and 3 respectively.

Agriculture

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he is satisfied with the present state of the agriculture industry in Wales; and if he will make a statément.

The results of the 1981 annual review of agriculture show an encouraging recovery in farm incomes in Wales. Preliminary indications are that the 1982 review will show that this trend has continued.

Advanced Course Enrolments

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will publish in the Official Report the numbers of advanced course enrolments in Wales at maintained, assisted and grant-aided establishments by the standard groups of study in each year since 1974 and by full and part-time modes of study, and by gender of student.

The readily available information is shown in the following table.

Home Department

Catapults

15.

asked the Secretary of St ate for the Home Department if he will introduce legislation to control the strength and availability of catapults and similar devices not covered by firearms regulations.

No. We are not persuaded that such controls would be justified or effective.

Immigration Rules

16.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what representations he has received over the Government's proposed changes in the immigration rules.

20.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what representations he has received in response to the White Paper on a proposed change in the immigration rules.

Our proposals for revision of the immigration rules were debated in this House last Thursday and are being debated in another place today. we have also received over 100 letters from hon. Members, mostly on behalf of constituents, and about 800 from members of the public.

Probation Service

17.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what plans he has for the future develoment of the probation service.

We wish to see the probation service maintain and develop its role as the principal agency for dealing with offenders in the community. The Government's expenditure plans include provision for continued growth of the service in the next financial year.

Firearms Offences

18.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what was the total number of serious offences involving the use of firearms in the most recent annual period for which figures are available; and by what percentage this total is greater or less than the comparable figures five years previously.

The number of notifiable offences recorded by the police in which firearms of all types, including air weapons, were reported to have been used was 8,067 in 1981, 74 per cent. more than in 1976.

Immigration

19.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will introduce a register of, and a quota for the admission of, dependants of immigrants already admitted for settlement in the United Kingdom.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) if he will now introduce a register of immigrant dependants;(2) if he will now introduce an immigration quota.

We are considering these matters in the light of the recent recommendation of the Home Affairs Committee.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many dependants have been given entry clearance for each 1,000 husbands or fiancés given leave to enter in each of the last 10 years.

The statistics available concerning grants of entry clearance to dependants cannot be related to the numbers of husbands and fiancés given leave to enter in any particular year.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) how it is ascertained that the marriage referred to in paragraph 117 of the immigration rules 1980 was entered into primarily to obtain settlement in the United Kingdom; what proof is required that the parties have met; how it is ascertained that the marriage has been terminated; and if he will list any means of terminating a marriage other than the conclusion of divorce proceedings;(2) how it is ascertained that one of the parties to a marriage in terms of paragraph 117 of the immigration rules 1980 no longer has any intention of living permanently with the other as his or her spouse.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) what actions are taken to ascertain whether marriages are entered into primarily for immigration purposes;(2) what actions are taken to ensure that parties to a marriage have met before consent is given to entry clearance.

A husband or fiancé overseas is interviewed in every case before an entry clearance is granted. In many cases his wife or fiancée here is also interviewed. An application has to be made in every case before a husband is granted settlement, and he and his wife will be interviewed wherever there is cause to doubt the bona fides of the application. Home Office staff and interviewing officers, who are experienced in assessing applicants, take into consideration not only the statements of the applicant, his spouse, and of third parties, but also the applicant's immigration history and other relevant information to establish whether the requirements in the rules are satisfied. A marriage may be terminated by annulment as well as by divorce. If the marriage has not been terminated but the parties have separated the husband will be disqualified from remaining under subparagraph (f) of paragraph 117.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) how many people are employed by the Home Office and police upon checks of abuses of paragraph 117 of the immigration rules 1980;(2) how many people were removed from the United Kingdom for failing to comply with the requirements of paragaraph 117 of the immigration rules 1980, specifying the numbers in respect of each subparagraph;(3) how many fiancés entered for the purposes of marriage in 1980 and 1981 in terms of the immigration rules 1980 paragraph 116; how many fiancés were removed from the United Kingdom for failing to marry within three months; which checks are made to ensure that the marriages take place; and how many people are employed by the Home Office and police upon such checks.

Home Office staff and police officers are not allocated specifically to the investigation of claims to remain under paragraphs 116 and 117 of the 1980 immigration rules, but last year immigration officers carried out a total of more than 10,000 investigations—which may include home visits as well as interviews—in cases where a person had applied for entry clearance or leave to remain. A large number of these investigations concerned applications by men based on their marriage or intended marriage.The numbers of men admitted as fiancés for the purpose of marriage are published in the annual control of immigration statistics. In 1980 and 1981 there were 1,900 and 2,000, respectively, some of whom were admitted under the previous rules, by virtue of transitional provisions in the 1980 immigration rules. No extension of leave is granted to a fiancé unless he produces documentary evidence that the marriage has taken place, and he and his wife may also be interviewed. If a fiancé does not make an application for an extension of leave within three months of his arrival he becomes an overstayer. If no application is made by a husband for leave to remain within 12 months of his arrival he becomes an overstayer. An overstayer is subject to normal procedures for tracing people who are here in defiance of immigration control and liable to deportation. Separate figures are not available on the number of fiancés removed

Applications for entry clearance certificates from spouses and fiances*in the Indian Sub-continent and admission to the United Kingdom:
1 January 1980 to 30 June 1982
Entry clearance applications
New applications receivedApplications grantedApplications refusedAcceptances on arrivalAdmissions made
For immediate settlement:
Wives12,85013,0902,99011,600
Not for immediate settlement:
Husbands41061080†160600
Fiances1,8403,6406203,790
* Female fiancées do not need to obtain an entry clearance certificate.
† Under the transitional provisions of the 1980 rules.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) how many applications for entry to the United Kingdom from the Indian Sub-continent on the basis of being a spouse or potential spouse, have been investigated since 20 February on the basis that (a) the marriage was primarily for immigration purposes, (b) the parties had not met or (c) the United Kingdom partner was subject to a degree of coercion;(2) how many applications for entry to the United Kingdom from the indian Sub-continent on the basis of being a spouse or potential spouse have been turned down since 20 February on the basis that

(a) the marriage was primarily for immigration purposes (b) the parties had not met or (c) the United Kingdom partner was subject to a degree of coercion.

All such applications are examined in order to see that the immigration rules are satisfied. Records are not kept centrally of the reasons for refusals of entry clearance.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what actions are taken to ensure that the United Kingdom partner to a marriage or proposed marriage, with a potential spouse or spouse from the Indian Sub-continent, has not been subject to duress or coercion by the family or community in which that partner lives; and how many entry clearances have been refused on this ground.

An entry clearance will not be issued to a husband or fiancé if the entry clearance officer has reason to believe that one of the parties has no intention of living permanently with the other. The entry clearance officer for failing to marry within three months or the number of men removed for failing to comply with the provisions in paragraph 117 of the rules.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) how many applications for entry to the United Kingdom from the Indian Sub-continent on the basis of being a spouse or potential spouse, have been made since 20 February;(2) how many spouses have been given leave to enter from the Indian Sub-continent since 20 February 1980; how many applications have been made; and how many applications have been turned down.

The available information is for calendar quarters and is given on the following table. Refusals of leave to enter at the ports are recorded by reason for refusal and not by category of attempted admission.will base his judgment on an interview with the applicant, and may arrange for the sponsor in the United Kingdom to be interviewed. Lack of consent is occasionally a reason for refusal of an entry clearance, but I regret that separate figures are not available.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what proportion of marriages since 20 February with previously non-entry cleared partners from the Indian Sub-continent have been found not to subsist one year from the date of the marriage; how many persons are involved; and how many spouses have subsequently been deported.

The information required is not readily available and could be provided only at disproportionate cost.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many illegal or invalid immigrants have been deported in each of the last 20 quarters, listing the numbers under each of the three main reasons for deportation and other reasons, also including the total in each case.

Quarterly figures relating to persons who have been deported from the United Kingdom under sections 3(5)(a), 3(5)(b) and 3(6) of the Immigration Act 1971 are available only from July 1978. The information is as follows:

3(5)(a)3(5)(b)3(6)Total
1978
3rd quarter4718135200
4th quarter4012101153
3(5)(a)3(5)(b)3(6)Total
1979
1st quarter4513112170
2nd quarter4717124188
3rd quarter6217154233
4th quarter5129119199
1980
1st quarter6918141228
2nd quarter7316135224
3rd quarter6922205296
4th quarter5721135213
1981
1st quarter5631165252
2nd quarter6522165252
3rd quarter6932119220
4th quarter5928127214
1982
1st quarter7421124219
2nd quarter8212130224
3rd quarter6218125205
Information about persons removed under the Immigration Act 1971 as illegal entrants is as follows:

1st Qtr.2nd Qtr.3rd Qtr.4th Qtr.Total
1978123135147133538
1979117148152168585
1980230280250140900
1981200170130150650
1982110110

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many investigations have been carried out in each of the past five years with regard to travel agents believed to be involved in the arrangement of bogus marriages (a) in the United Kingdom and (b) on the Indian Sub-continent.

The immigration service has conducted three major investigations in the United Kingdom in the past five years into organised schemes of abuse of the rules on marriage. None of these concerned travel agents. There has been no comparable inquiry in the Indian Sub-continent. All applications for entry clearance or leave to remain are examined individually to establish that they comply with the rules.

Data Protection

21.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will make a statement on his plans for protecting data.

As announced in the Gracious Speech, it is the Government's intention to introduce legislation on data protection during the present Session of Parliament.

Television Licences

22.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will take steps to require commercial premises to obtain a television licence for each television set on their premises.

After careful consideration we have decided that this is not the right time to change the television licensing requirements for commercial premises, including hotels.

Prisoners On Remand

23.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many prisoners on remand are currently being held in police and court cells; and where they are.

On the night of 17 November a total of 121 prisoners were held in police custody, 111 in the Metropolitan Police area, one in that of the city of London force, and nine in that of the Sussex force. The information available centrally does not identify remand prisoners separately, but they normally constitute a majority of the prisoners so held.

Novice Radio Licence

24.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he expects to announce that a novice radio licence will be introduced.

Suspected Persons

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what response there has been to the draft codes of practice which he published in June on the treatment, questioning and identification of persons suspected of crime.

I am very grateful to all those private individuals and bodies who were good enough to consider and comment on the draft codes. Most of those consulted on the draft codes have replied, and the comments provided have helped us to improve them. Copies of the drafts as revised in the light of the comments received have been placed in the Library, and are available from the Vote Office. They are also being sent to those who commented on the earlier drafts. In addition, copies will be available on request from Room 528, Home Office, 50 Queen Anne's Gate, London SW1H 9AT.The drafts are designed to illustrate the codes of practice relating to the conduct of the police which I would be empowered to make, with the approval of Parliament, under the Police and Criminal Evidence Bill which is published today. For ease of reference the drafts reproduce some of the legislative proposals in that measure. I shall of course keep the drafts under review in the light of the views expressed during the Bill's progress.

Police

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will set out in the Official Report a table of salaries, years of service and pension entitlements and percentages of basic salaries paid for such pension rights in respect of the police.

The current rates of police pay were promulgated by Home Office circular No. 99/1982 issued on 3 November 1982, a copy of which is available in the Library. The pension entitlement of a police officer under the police pensions scheme depends upon the circumstances of his leaving the police service. It is normally based on his average pensionable pay during his last year of service and his length of pensionable service, up to a maximum of 30 years. The main pension scheme benefits for an officer who joined the police service since 1972 are as follows:

Police Pension Entitlements
Circumstances of leaving the police serviceType of pension payableAnnual amount of pension (in references to pensionable service, fractions of a year count pro rata)
Officer retires with at least 25 years' pensionable service.Ordinary pension (if officer retires before age 50 with less than 30 years' pensionable service pension will not be paid until age 50).Subject to a maximum of forty-sixtieths: One-sixtieth of the officer's average pensionable pay for each year of pensionable service up to 20 years plus two-sixtieths of that pay for each year of pensionable service over 20 years.
Officer is compulsorily retired on age grounds with at least five but less than 25 years' pensionable service.Short service pension.Calculated in the same way as an ordinary pension.
Officer retires on ill-health grounds either with at least five years' pensionable service or as a result of an injury received on duty.Ill-health pension.Less than five years' pensionable service: One-sixtieth of the officer's average pensionable pay for each year of pensionable service. Five to 10 years' pensionable service: Two-sixtieths of the officer's average pensionable pay for each year of pensionable service.
Over 10 but not more than 13 years' pensionable service: Twenty-sixtieths of the officer's average pensionable pay. Over 13 years' pensionable service:
Subject to a maximum of forty-sixtieths or the amount of the ordinary or short service pension the officer could have earned by compulsory retirement age:
Seven-sixtieths of the officer's average pensionable pay plus one-sixtieth of that pay for each year of pensionable service up to 20 years and two-sixtieths of that pay for each year of pensionable service over 20 years.
Officer leaves with at least five years' pensionable service and does not qualify for an ordinary, short service or ill-health pension.Deferred pension payable at age 60 or sooner if he becomes permanently disabled.One-forty-fifth of the officer's average pensionable pay for each year of pensionable service up to an overall maximum of forty-sixtieths.

Notes:

(1) A police widow's pension is normally half her husband's pension. If he dies while serving it is normally half the ill-health pension he would have received had he retired on ill-health grounds on the day he died.

(2) In certain circumstances there are benefits for children and dependent relatives.

(3) There are also benefits in respect of injury or death on duty, the cost of which is met in full by the employer. Since 1 September 1982, police men have contributed 11 per cent. and police women 8 per cent. of their pensionable pay towards the cost of pension benefits.

Firemen

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will set out in the Official Report a table of salaries, years of service and pension entitlements, and percentages of basic salaries paid for such pension rights of firemen.

The current rates of fire service pay were promulgated in a circular issued by the national joint council for chief officers of local authorities' fire brigades

Firemen's Pension Entitlements
Circumstances of leaving the fire serviceType of pension payableAnnual amount of pension (in references to pensionable service, fractions of a year count pro rata)
Fireman who has reached the age of 50 and retires with at least 25 years' pensionable service.Ordinary pension.Subject to a maximum of forty-sixtieths: One-sixtieth of the fireman's average pensionable pay for each year of pensionable service up to 20 years, plus two-sixtieths of that pay for each year of pensionable service over 20 years.
Fireman is compulsorily retired on age grounds with at least five but less than 25 years' pensionable service.Short service pension.Calculated in the same way as an ordinary pension.

on 8 September 1981 and in national joint council for local authorities' fire brigades circulars issued on 27 October 1982 and 5 November 1982. Copies of these circulars are available in the Library. The pension entitlement of a regular fireman under the firemen's pension scheme depends upon the circumstances of his leaving the fire service. It is normally based on his average pensionable pay during his last year of service and his length of pensionable service, up to a maximum of 30 years. The main pension scheme benefits for a fireman who joined the fire service since 1972 are as follows:

Circumstances of leaving the fire service

Type of pension payable

Annual amount of pension (in references to pensionable service, fractions of a year count pro rata)

Fireman retires on ill-health grounds either with at least five years' pensionable service or as a result of an injury received on duty.Ill-health pension.Less than five years' pensionable service: One-sixtieth of the fireman's average pensionable pay for each year of pensionable service.
Five to 10 years' pensionable service: Two-sixtieths of the fireman's average pensionable pay for each year of pensionable service.
Over 10 but not more than 13 years' pensionable service:
Twenty-sixtieths of the fireman's average pensionable pay. Over 13 years' pensionable service:
Subject to a maximum of forty-sixtieths or the amount of the ordinary or short service pension the fireman could have earned by compulsory retirement age:
Seven-sixtieths of the fireman's average pensionable pay, plus one-sixtieth of that pay for each year of pensionable service up to 20 years and two-sixtieths of that pay for each year of pensionable service over 20 years.
Fireman leaves with at least five years' pensionable service and does not qualify for an ordinary, short service or ill-health pension.Deferred pension payable at age 60 or sooner if he becomes permanently disabled.One-forty-fifth of the fireman's average pensionable pay for each year of pensionable service up to an overall maximum of forty-sixtieths.

Notes:

(1) A fireman's widow's pension is normally half her husband's pension. If he dies while serving it is normally half the ill-health pension he would have received had he retired on ill-health grounds on the day he died.

(2) In certain circumstances there are benefits for children and dependent relatives.

(3) There are also benefits in respect of injury or death on duty, the cost of which is met in full by the employer.

As regards the fireman's contribution to the cost of these benefits, I refer the hon. Member to the reply I gave to a question by my hon. Friend the Member for Bury St. Edmunds (Mr. Griffiths) on 10 November.—[Vol. 31, c. 148.]

Rules Of Court

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he has now completed the necessary amendments to Rules of Court to enable legal aid to be available to parents in child care proceedings where the court has ordered that the parent shall not be treated as representing the child.

Police Pensions Regulations

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many widows of police officers whose husbands retired prior to 1 April 1956 are classed as preserved rate widows for the purposes of the police pensions regulations.

All widows of police officers who retired or died before 1 April 1956, who have an entitlement to benefits under the police pension scheme, receive a preserved rate widow's pension. The number of widows currently receiving such pensions is not known centrally and could be obtained only at disproportionate cost.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what additional revenue will be received from serving police officers by the implementation of SI No. 1151 in a full year.

Cs Gas (Liverpool)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will use his powers under the Police Act 1964 to set up a public inquiry into the use of CS gas projectiles in Liverpool on the night of 5–6 July 1981.

I refer the hon. Member to the reply I have given today to a question from the hon. Member for Liverpool, Scotland Exchange (Mr. Parry).

Elections (Voting Rights)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will introduce legislation enabling all British citizens who live permanently in other member States of the European Community to vote at British parliamentary elections.

The Government accept that there is a strong case for extending the franchise to British citizens living in the European Community and desire to see the views of the Select Committee on Home Affairs which is examining this question as part of its inquiry this Session into the Representation of the People Acts.

Prison Visitors

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will review the present criteria for the appointment of prison visitors, particularly those criteria which bar persons who have previous convictions.

There are no formal criteria for the appointment of prison visitors. Applicants are required to give details of any previous convictions. But each case is considered on its merits, and a previous conviction is not necessarily a bar to appointment.

Immigrants (Repatriation)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he has any proposals further to assist those immigrants who wish to return to their country of origin.

We have no present plans to extend the arrangements under which assistance with travel costs is available from public funds for immigrants who wish to return permanently overseas but lack the means to do so themselves.

Concessionary Television Licence Payments

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will now introduce the necessary amending legislation to provide concessionary television licence payments for people resident in part III accommodation, including those physically and mentally handicapped.

We are considering whether a concession could be made to physically and mentally handicapped persons living in local authority residential accommodation without creating further anomalies in the television licensing system.

Overseas Development

Development Council Meeting

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what was the outcome of the meeting of the Development Council in Brussels on 8 November.

Most of the time was devoted to an initial discussion, without conclusions, of the Commission's memorandum on future Community aid policy. A wide rang of views were expressed which will form the basis for further ministerial discussion at the Foreign Affairs Council on 22–23 November.Rwanda was added to the list of countries which are being offered Community help in developing food strategies, as part of the Community's plan of action against world hunger.Guidelines were agreed for future Community aid relating to the situation of women in developing countries, and substantial agreement was reached on guidelines relating to maintenance—non-project—aid.No decision was reached on a Commission proposal for supplementary food aid in the form of cereals.There was a short discussion of the Community's programme of trade promotion for developing countries.

Energy

Mr Arthur Scargill

asked the Secretary of State for Energy whether he will give consideration to offering Mr. Arthur Scargill membership of the National Coal Board.

Windscale Reactor (Decommissioning Costs)

asked the Secretary of State for Energy what will be the approximate cost of decommissioning the Windscale advanced gas-cooled reactor.

The decommissioning of the Windscale advanced gas-colled reactor is being, undertaken by the Atomic Energy Authority as a development project to demonstrate the effectiveness of different dismantling methods and waste packaging and disposal techniques. It is therefore not possible to distinguish the costs specific to the decommissioning of the WAGR from associated development work. The project will be subject to regular review of progress and costs, but it is at present estimated that costs could be in the region of £3 million per annum over about 10 years.

Domestic Energy Supplies

asked the Secretary of State for Energy what is the reason for the difference in figures given for the quarterly standing charge in respect of gas in his replies to the hon. Member for Birmingham, Perry Barr on 15 February, Official Report, c. 12 and 25 October, c. 253, and those given to the hon. Member for Liverpool, Scotland Exchange (Mr. Parry) on 12 November, c. 308.

The reply given to the hon. Member for Birmingham, Perry Barr (Mr. Rooker) on 15 February gave, in respect of gas, an average of the amounts charged by gas regions in different areas under the heading "standing charge". Until April 1981 the first 52 therms of domestic consumption were charged each quarter al a significantly higher rate than subsequent therms. For comparative purposes it is more appropriate to include the higher cost element of this first tranche of consumption. as was done for the answer provided to the hon. Member for Liverpool, Scotland Exchange (Mr. Parry), and in the Price Commission report "British Gas Corporation—Gas Prices and Allied Charges, HMSO July 1979"—paragraphs 5.13 and 10.20. The general zone tariff formed the basis of the latter reply.

Council Of Energy Ministers

asked the Secretary of State for Energy whether he will make a statement about the meeting of the European Communities' Council of Energy Ministers on 9 November.

I represented the United Kingdom at this meeting. Substantial progress was made towards developing a coherent strategy to promote the role of solid fuels in the Community. The Council concluded that a firm political will exists to promote the role of solid fuels in the energy supply of the Community. Ministers will meet next month at a specially convened coal council to discuss specific actions in this area and to set terms of reference and time scales. The major items for discussion will include Community support for economic coal production, transportation and use. The aim will be to create a firm basis for a coherent Community strategy in this field.On behalf of the United Kingdom Government, I welcomed this development. The United Kingdom Government believe that the time is ripe for the Community to develop new policies which recognise that coal—particularly coal produced in the Community at competitive prices—has a major role to play in meeting Community energy needs and reducing dependence on imported oil and gas.The Council endorsed the findings of a study on how well member States can cope with interruptions in gas supplies. The conclusions of the study are reassuring—even a loss of 25 per cent. in gas supplies over six consecutive months should not cause real difficulty for consumers. Work will continue to explore further possibilities for collaboration between member States. Studies will be made of the adequacy of the Community's gas transport system and into the prospects for exploiting deep gas in the Community.A few more details were sorted out on the new draft regulations for the energy demonstration projects scheme—the old regulations expire next year and in 1984. I supported the extension of this scheme, but I stressed the need for the Council to retain firm management control, and for appropriate financial mechanisms.The Council discussed a Commission proposal for interest rate subsidies for loans for certain classes of investment—district heating, conversion to coal, coal handling equipment, and generation of energy from waste. I am sympathetic to the Commission's aims here, but doubt whether the particular proposals are the best means at this time. Interest rates are declining and the cost of borrowing is unlikely to hold back this sort of investment.The Council was to have considered a draft directive, under which the basis for calculating the level of obligatory oil stocks would have changed. Instead of calculating the level at 90 days of the average daily rate of consumption for the last year, the draft directive would have changed the formula to 90 days of the average daily rate over the last three years. However, the Commission withdrew the draft directive. In its place, the Council

Three-Year-oldsFour-Year-Olds
197919801981197919801981
Full-time number1,2691,2171,1162,3812,3982,256
Part-time number10,16110,25410,48717,72018,36219,054
Part-time FTE*4,9955,0325,1468,7409,0369,413
Total population63,14760,34361,00965,71862,57258,813

* FTE=Full time equivalent.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many (a) 3-year-olds and (b) 4-year-olds in Scotland were in local authority day nurseries with teacher supervision expressed as (i) full-time equivalents and (ii) full and unweighted part-timers in each of the last three years for which figures are available.

in the years ending 31 March 1980 and 1981 the numbers of children in the age group three to five attending local authority day nurseries in which teachers are employed were as follows:

1980 - 429
1981 - 287
Information is not available about 3 and 4-year-olds separately or about full-time and part-time attendance. The returns for 1979 did not deal with the employment of teachers.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what was the estimated average cost per full-time equivalent child in (a) nursery schools and (b) nursery classes in primary schools, in 1981–82, 1980–81, 1979–80 and 1982–83 if figures are now available. agreed to consider a political commitment to make the same change, except where consumption has declined because of long-term changes in oil use. There will be no need to change the present obligations on United Kingdom companies if this commitment is confirmed.The Council also endorsed an interim report on energy pricing within the Community, and the principles behind a directive on substitute fuels in petrol. A directive on efficiency testing of heat generators was agreed.

Scotland

Nursery Education

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many (a) 3-year-old and (b) 4-year-old children in Scotland were in (i) nursery schools and (ii) nursery classes in primary schools expressed (a) as full-time equivalents and (b) as full and unweighted part-timers in each of the last three years for which figures are available; and what was the total population of (i) 3-year-olds and (ii) 4-year-olds in the same year.

Separate figures are not available for nursery schools and classes. The following table gives details of pupils in nursery schools and departments in the categories requested in the public sector. Pupil numbers are those at September in the latest three years for which statistics are available, whilst population figures relate to December of each year.

Expenditure figures are collected only in respect of nursery education as whole and the figures for 1982–83 are not yet to hand. The available information is as follows:

Average unit costs per full-time equivalent nursery pupil.
YearCost in £ at outturn prices
1979–80390
1980–81488
1981–82*544

* Excluding Shetland and Western Isles.

Play Groups

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many (a) 3-year-old and (b) 4-year-old children in Scotland were in (i) local authority and (ii) voluntary play groups expressed as (a) full-time equivalents and (b) full and unweighted part-timers in each of the last three years for which figures are available.

The numbers of children attending play groups in the years ending 31 March 1979, 1980 and 1981 were as follows:

197919801981
Local authority play groups891967919
Voluntary play groups45,33940,78342,830
Information is not available about ages or about full-time and part-time attendance.

Pre-School Education

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many (a) 3-year-olds and (b) 4-year-olds in Scotland were involved in no form of education or other pre-school educational experience in each of the last three years for which figures are available.

The number of 3-year-olds and 4-year-olds not in education is shown in the following table:

197919801981
3-year-olds not in education51,40048,50049,000
4-year-olds not in education34,70030,90027,800
More than half these children attended play groups, but separate figures for 3 and 4-year-olds are not available centrally.

Pre-School Age Groups

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what are the best estimates of his Department of the number of (a) 3 and (b) 4-year-olds in each school year for 1982–83 to 1988–89.

The latest—1979 based—official population projections produced by the Registrar General, which relate to 30 June each year show the following:

(thousands)
Age at 30 June
3-year-old4-year-old
198265·061·2
198366·364·8
198469·666·1
198572·069·4
198673·871·7
198775·973·6
198878·175·6
198980·077·8
New—1981 based—projections are now being prepared for publication next year. Projections for younger ages, which involve projecting the number of births in future years, are very speculative, but the new projection will incorporate lower fertility rate assumptions. Consequently the projected numbers of 3 and 4-year-olds will be substantially lower than in the 1979 based projection, possibly as much as 12 per cent. lower from 1986.

Educational Home Visitors

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many educational home visitors were employed in local education authorities in Scotland in each of the last three years.

School Places (Costs)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the average unit cost of a place in (a) a primary school and (b) a secondary school in Scotland in (i) 1981–82 and (ii) 1982–83.

Figures for 1982–83 are not yet to hand. The available information in respect of 1981–82 is as follows:

Average unit costs per pupil in 1981–82*
Cost in £ at outturn prices
Primary750
Secondary1,170

* Excluding Shetland and Western Isles

Pupil Numbers

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will give the estimated number of (a) primary school pupils and (b) secondary school pupils attending schools in Scotland in (i) 1981–82, (ii) 1982–83 and (iii) his best estimate of the numbers in each category in each year from 1983–84 to 1988–89.

The information is contained in the following table and relates to the public sector. All the figures after 1981–82 are estimated.

Primary schoolSecondary school
September
1981–82492,600404,600
1982–83472,600393,900
1983–84452,800387,600
1984–85441,600375,900
1985–86438,600360,600
1986–87441,200344,300
1987–88448,000327,800
1988–89459,800311,700

Teacher Training

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what has been the total expenditure on (a) in-service training and (b) initial teacher training in Scotland in each of the past five years.

Information about expenditure by local authorities on in-service training is not held centrally; and it is not possible to break down expenditure by colleges of education as between in-service and initial teacher training. The total cost of teacher training given in colleges of education in the last five financial years was as follows:

Financial YearGross expenditure on in-service and initial teacher training
(£000)
1977–7818,423
1978–7918,932
1979–8019,567
1980–8123,528
1981–8225,086

Educational Expenditure

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what has been the total expenditure on (a) GCE O-level and CSE examinations and (b) the assessment of performance unit in each of the past five years.

I do not have information on the cost of the relatively small number of GCE O-level and CSE examination presentations by Scottish pupils. The assessment of performance unit does not operate in Scotland.

Young Persons (Statistics)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is his best estimate of the number of (a) 16 and (b) 17-year-olds in Scotland in each year from 1983 to 1988.

The latest—1979 based—official population projections produced by the Registrar General show the following:

Age at 30 June
16 year old17 year old
(thousands)
198389·687·9
198486·489·0
198585·685·7
198682·384·9
198781·681·6
198877·581·0
New—1981 based—projections are now being prepared for publication next year. A very provisional estimate, taking into account information from the 1981 census, suggests that the new projection will show figures which are of the order of 1 per cent. higher in each case.

Education (Costs)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the estimated cost of tuition of a student in maintained higher education in Scotland in each of the last five years for which figures are available.

The estimated average cost of tuition of students in central institutions and colleges of education receiving grants from the Scottish Education Department is as follows:

YearEstimated average cost £
1977–781,888
1978–792,169
1979–802,430
1980–813,001
1981–823,213
Information about the cost of tuition in colleges provided by local authorities is not available centrally.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the total number of full-time equivalent students on courses of higher education in the maintained sector in 1981–82 in Scotland and the total cost to central and local government of maintenance awards paid to them.

The number of full-time equivalent students on such courses in session 1981–82 was 34,502.Figures about costs are not available in the form which has been sought, but it is estimated that the total cost to the Scottish Education Department and Scottish local authorities of maintenance awards paid to such students in 1981–82 was £29 million.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the total number of full-time equivalent students in any form of education in 1981–82 in Scotland and the total cost to central and local government of maintenance awards paid to them.

The number of full-time equivalent students aged 16 or over in all forms of education, including schools, in Scotland in session 1981–82 was 198,616.Figures about costs are not available in the form which has been sought, but it is estimated that the total cost to the Scottish Education Department and Scottish local authorities of maintenance awards paid to such students in 1981–82 was £81 million.

Co-Operatives

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the number of (a) workers' co-operatives and (b) community co-operatives registered in Scotland; and how many people they employ.

According to the latest figures produced by the Co-operative Development Agency, 43 Scottish co-operatives have been registered. Of these, as far as interpretation allows, 30 are workers' co-operatives and 13 community co-operatives, employing 348 and 158, respectively.

Dover House (Security)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland (1) what is the employing authority of the security persons employed at the entrance to the Scottish Office at Dover House, Whitehall; and if he will make a statement;(2) if he is satisfied with the number of persons employed on security duty during the daytime and at night at the Scottish Office, Dover House, Whitehall; and if he will make a statement;(3) if he will issue instructions to the security staff at the Scottish Office, Dover House, Whitehall, that his personal offices should be locked at all times when he is not present in the building;(4) how many persons are employed as security guards at the entrance to the Scottish Office at Dover House, Whitehall, London; and what regulations are issued to these persons regarding entry to the offices;(5) if he will set up an investigation into the circumstances surrounding the illegal entry into the offices of the Scottish Office at Dover House, Whitehall, on Thursday 11 November; and if he will make a statement;(6) what damage or interference was caused in the Scottish Office at Dover House, Whitehall, on 11 November when 14 persons illegally entered the building and gained access to his personal office.

On the evening of Thursday 11 November a group of people gained access to Dover House by the front door. They told my staff that they were staging a peaceful demonstration. The demonstrators caused no damage. When requested to leave, they made an orderly exit.

The lessons to be learnt from this regrettable incident are being taken into account in a review of security arrangements at Dover House which was already in hand when the incident happened.

During normal hours employees of the Scottish Office discharge security duties at Dover House. At all other times this work is the responsibility of the Property Services Agency. An appropriate number of staff is employed for this purpose. Their instructions, which should normally prevent unauthorised persons from entering the building, are being looked at again in the light of the incident. It would not be appropriate to give further details about these security instructions or about the disposition of security staff.

Education And Science

Class Sizes

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what would be the cost to public funds of reducing all schools classes to a maximum of 25.

In January 1981 average class sizes in England were 25·5 pupils for primary schools and 21·5 for secondary schools. At the same time 57 per cent. of primary classes and 35 per cent. of secondary classes contained 26 or more pupils. There can be no certain estimate of the cost to public funds of reducing all school classes to a maximum of 25 because the cost would depend on the extent to which local education authorities and head teachers gave priority to a reduction in class sizes over other calls on the time of teachers.

University And Polytechnic Lecturers

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many (a) university and (b) polytechnic lecturers have been made redundant in the past 12 months.

Higher Education

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what was the total number of available (a) university and (b) polytechnic places in 1978–79, 1979–80, 1980–81, 1981–82 and 1982–83.

The number of places available at universities and polytechnics is not available as there are no fixed targets for student entry. The following information relates to the number of first year full-time and sandwich students.

Pupils aged 3 and 4 years in maintained nursery schools and nursery classes in maintained primary schools in January 1980, 1981 and 1982
Age of pupils (at previous 31 August)
3 years4 years*
198019811982198019811982
Nursery schools
Full-time pupils8,6398,2608,2823,9853,9643,515
Part-time pupils22,83722,67923,7645,1345,2374,951
Full-time equivalent†20,05819,60020,1646,5526,5835,991
Nursery classes in primary schools
Full-time pupils19,39719,702‡19,99911,53411,273‡10,540

Full-time and sandwich first year students in Universities and Polytechnics

1978–79

1979–80

1980–81

1981–82

Universities in Great Britain (including post-graduates)112,790113,102113,745111,693
Polytechnics in England and Wales53,36654,25755,99564,970

Statistics for 1982–83 are not yet available.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will publish the total Government expenditure on (a) university and (b) polytechnic education in constant prices for 1974 to the present day.

Net recurrent and capital expenditure on universities via the University Grants Committee and on other institutions of university status from 1974–75 to 1981–82 and net recurrent and capital expenditure by local education authorities on polytechnics for 1974–75 to 1980–81, the last year for which information is available, are as follows at constant November 1979 prices.

£ million November 1979 prices or equivalent
Universities Great BritainPolytechnics England and Wales
1974–751,001316
1075–761,042354
1076–771,019360
1977–78838331
1978–79864328
1979–80827327
1980–81864309
1981–82812

Note:

The apparent drop in expenditure in 1977–78 was largely counterbalanced by a substantial increase in income as a consequence of an increase in real terms in tuition lees for home students.

Nursery Education

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many (a) 3-year-old and (b) 4-year-old children in England were in (i) nursery schools and (ii) nursery classes in primary schools expressed as (a) full-time equivalents and (b) full and unweighted part-timers in each of the last three years for which figures are available; and what was the total population of (i) 3-year-olds and (ii) 4-year-olds in the same years.

Age of pupils (at previous 31 August)

3 years

4 years

*

1980

1981

1982

1980

1981

1982

Part-time pupils91,32095,531‡105,57427,97027,950‡27,972
Full-time equivalent†65,05767,468‡72,78625,51925,248‡24,526
Estimated population (thousands)544525539385368354

* Excluding children aged 4 years who became 5 years of age by 31 December.

† Full-time pupils plus half the number of part-time pupils.

† Provisional.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science, how many (a) 3-year-olds and (b) 4-year-olds in England were in local authority day nurseries with teacher surpervision expressed (i) as full-time equivalents and (ii) as full and unweighted part-timers in each of the last three years for which figures are available.

The Department does not collect information relating to the employment of teachers in day nurseries.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many (a) 3-year-olds and (b) 4-year-olds in England were involved in no form of education or other pre-school educational experience in each of the last three years for which figures are available.

The estimated numbers of children aged 3 and 4 years who were not attending a school as either a full-time or part-time pupil in January 1980, 1981 and 1982 are as follows:

Children aged 3 and 4 years not attending a school
Age at previous 31 August
January3 years (thousands)*4 years (thousands)
1980390104
198136794
198236986
* Excluding children aged 4 years on 31 August who became 5 years by 31 December.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what are his estimates of the number of (a) 3 and (b) 4-year-olds in each school year for 1982–83 to 1988–89.

Projections of the numbers of 3 and 4-year-old children in England are as follows:

Thousands
January of each year
*Age 3Age 4
1983584366
1984606396
1985595415
1986579395
1987579388
1988594391
1989616404
* Children aged 3 at the previous 31 August.
† Children aged 4 at the previous 31 August, but excluding those becoming 5 between that date and 31 December.

Home Visitors

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many educational home visitors were employed in local education authorities in England in each of the last three years.

Pupil Numbers

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is the estimated number of (a) primary school pupils and (b) secondary school pupils attending schools in England in (i) 1981–82, (ii) 1982–83 and (iii) his best estimate of the numbers in each category in each year from 1983–84 to 1988–89.

The provisional count of pupils in maintained schools in England in January 1982 and projections for each of the following seven years are as follows:

Pupils*(thousands)
JanuaryPrimary (5+)Secondary
19823,6193,798
19833,4323,748
19843,3173,659
19853,2753,544
19863,2893,407
19873,3033,267
19883,3283,099
19893,3752,954
* Aged 5 years or over at the previous 31 December.

Note: Middle schools are included according to whether deemed primary or secondary.

Examinations And Assessment

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what has been the total expenditure on (a) GCE O-level and CSE examinations and (b) the assessment of performance unit in each of the past five years.

(a) The cost of developing and producing GCE O-lėvel and CSE examinations falls to the examination boards while local education authorities and private individuals are responsible for meeting the fees. Information on total expenditure is not available in the Department.

(b) The assessmemt of performace unit is an integral part of the Department and without undue expense it would not be possible separately to determine the total cost of its operations in any financial year. Payments made by the

Department to research teams commissioned to develop assessment instruments and conduct monitoring surveys in each of the past five financial years were:

£

1977–7888,512
1978–79238,574
1979–80480,679
1980–81592,326
1981–821,098,808

Other costs include the salaries of the unit's staff, committee expenses and publications. In the financial year ending 31 March 1982 these other costs were estimated to he approximately £133,000.

Further And Higher Education (Liverpool)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will increase the allocation of funds for further and higher education in Liverpool.

My right hon. Friend announced on 8 November the Government's proposed expenditure plans for higher and further education for 1983–84. The distribution of this expenditure as between localities is yet to be decided by those concerned.

Textile Courses

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what representations he has

Total educational expenditure as percentage of gross national product
Country19701971197219731974197519761977197819791980
(with population of over 50 million)
United Kingdom5·25·35·65·66·26·36·05·55·45·25·5
France4·93·55·05·35·35·55·55·3
Germany F.R 3·74·54·04·14·55·14·84·74·74·6
Italy4·04·85·25·45·24·54·74·6
(with population of under 15 million)
Belgium5·16·26·26·56·0
Denmark6·87·67·07·47·57·86·76·9
Greece2·01·81·51·82·0
Ireland5·05·05·25·35·46·36·16·26·3
Luxembourg4·15·35·05·25·05·35·26·1
Netherlands7·77·97·87·98·28·68·58·48·5
The percentage of GNP spent on education in the United Kingdom compares favourably with that of other large industrial EEC countries.

Advanced Courses

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will publish in the Official Report the numbers of advanced course enrolments in England at maintained, assisted and grant-aided establishments by the standard groups of study in each year since 1974 and by full and part-time modes of study and by gender of student.

The following figures show the number of student enrolments as at 1 November on advanced courses at maintained, assisted and grant-aided major establishments of further education in England for the years 1974 to 1981 inclusive.

received about maintaining courses in textile technology and design in universities and colleges; and what reply he has sent.

In recent months my right hon. Friend has received representations on this matter from several hon. Members including the hon. Member for Macclesfield, the Textile Institute and members of staff of some universities and colleges.These representations have been drawn to the attention of the national advisory board for local authority higher education (NAB) which, as part of its task of advising the Secretary of State on the academic provision in local authority institutions of higher education, has selected textile technology for examination. It is hoped that NAB will be able to take into account relevant provision in universities and non-advanced further education. I understand that this review is still at an early stage.

Education Expenditure

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will give education expenditure in the United Kingdom as a percentage of gross national product compared with that of each of the European Economic Community nations in each of the last 10 years; and if he will make a statement.

The available information for each year from 1970 is as follows:

Full-time and sand-wichPart-time
MenWomenMenWomen
197499,64199,88295,51816,087
1975104,922100,60099,50118,702
1976108,02897,725100,15520,255
1977106,59188,851103,68127,144
1978105,72180,900110,08932,571
1979104,39479,625112,43336,484
1980105,28181,629118,92539,910
1981114,56389,281122,30342,239
More detailed figures may be found in the statistical volumes published by the Department and by the Welsh Office, copies of which are available in the Library.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will publish in the Official Report the numbers of initial entrants, under 21 years of age, in advanced, full and part-time courses at maintained, assisted and grant-aided establishments who were domiciled in (a) Wales, (b) England and (c) Scotland, for each year since 1974.

Not all the information requested is readily available. The following information excludes entrants from Great Britain to colleges in Northern Ireland.

Home full time entrants to higher education aged under 21 Advanced courses at establishments of further and higher education in Great Britain (excluding universities)
1977–781978–791979–801980–81
Country of DomicileThousandsThousandsThousandsThousands
Wales2·12·12·22·3
England34·333·334·036·3
Scotland5·75·55·96·8

Note: Figures for 1980–81 and those for advanced courses in 1978–79 include an element of estimation.

Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs

Namibia

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs whether it is the policy of Her Majesty's Government that an independent Namibia should be invited to become a member of the Commonwealth.

The Commonwealth Heads of Government in their Kingston communiqué of May 1975 said that

"they looked forward to the time when the Government and people of Namibia might be welcomed into the Commonwealth if that were their wish".
We continue to associate ourselves with this declaration.

Mr Gromyko (Meeting)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will make a statement on his recent meeting with Mr. Gromyko.

I had a meeting with Mr. Gromyko in Moscow on 15 November. Our discussions touched on a number of current issues. I emphasised the need to reach effective arms control agreements and the concern of Her Majesty's Government about Afghanistan and the situation in Poland. I made it clear that a more constructive East-West relationship is available if the Soviet leaders are willing to adopt a new approach. We also had a brief discussion on the Middle East.

1979–80 £ million1980–81 £ million1981–82 £ million1982–83 £ million
Rate Support Grant:
Needs Element43·64850·436
Resources Element4·8116·720
Block Grant*64·66973·646†
Domestic Rate Relief Grant3·0163·0653·1033·173†
Urban Programme0·9921·3491·5691·221‡
Housing Subsidies15·117·117·29·2‡
Modified Rent Rebate Subsidy1·61·82·31·6‡
Rent Allowance Subsidy0·70·80·20·2‡
Slum Clearance Subsidy0·60·91·30·9‡
Homes Insulation Scheme0·10·10·10·06‡
Improvement Contributions0·60·80·90·7‡

Mr Michael Allen

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what information he has about the welfare and safety of Michael Allen, a British subject lecturing in English at Bir Zeit university in Palestine, who has been arrested for interrogation by the Israeli military occupation authorities in the West Bank of Palestine.

According to information received from the British Consul-General in Jerusalem, Mr. Allen was detained by the police in Ramallah on 15 November and released later the same day. His brief detention appears to have been part of an Israeli attempt to prevent students and lecturers from attending a meeting at Bir Zeit university called to protest against Israeli action against West Bank university lecturers.

Environment

Rented Property (Right To Buy)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment with which charitable organisations he has consulted about his legislative proposals to extend the right-to-buy arrangements for rented property; and what views were expressed or representations were made during such consultations.

There have been no formal consultations as such but my hon. Friend the Under-Secretary indicated in the House on 19 April this year.—[Vol. 22; c. 103.]—that representations on this point would be carefully noted. A letter from the National Federation of Housing Associations opposing this proposal was received subsequently. Various representations have been received from tenants of charitable housing associations seeking this extension and letters have been received from some hon. Members.

Newham (Grants)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he will publish in the Official Report as much detailed information as may be readily available giving the amount of grants made by his Department to the London borough of Newham, for stated purposes, for each year since May 1979.

Notes:

* Entitlement under the Rate Support Grant Supplementary Report (England) 1982.

† Initial entitlement under the Rate Support Grant Report (England) 1982–83.

‡ Amount paid May-October 1982.

The figures for urban programme are amounts paid during the year, and include amounts in respect of preceeding years. Figures for the other grants in 1979–80 and 1980–81 (other than slum clearance subsidy) are based on audited final claims. Slum clearance subsidy figures for 1979–80 and 1980–81, and all figures for 1981–82 and 1982–83 are estimates, and will be subject to adjustment when audited final claims are received.

Toxic Waste

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he is satisfied with methods to protect the public from the effects of the dumping of toxic wastes, particularly those that can cause malignancies and blood disorders.

Local authorities are responsible for operating and enforcing the law on waste disposal. Toxic wastes may only lawfully be disposed of at licensed sites, and the licences generally include conditions regulating the kind and quantity of waste in order to protect public health and water resources. Licensed sites are monitored to ensure that the conditions are complied with and continue to he appropriate. In addition, under the Control of Pollution (Special Waste) Regulations 1980, notice of deposit and documentation of movement and disposals is required for the more hazardous wastes. Local authorities have power to remove, or require the removal of, waste deposited unlawfully. The system is under constant review.

Housing Associations

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he intends the Housing and Building Control Bill to require charitable concerns such as the National Agricultural Central housing association to sell all present and future dwellings.

No. Clause 2 of the Housing and Building Control Bill only extends the right to buy to those secure tenants of charitable housing associations and trusts whose individual homes were provided with the benefit of housing association grant. Tenants of such associations and trusts whose dwellings were provided with charitable funds or with the aid of grants other than housing association grant would not have the right to buy under the Bill.

Environmental Nuisance

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will introduce measures to empower local authorities to control environmental nuisance emanating from (a) microlight aircraft and hang-gliders and (b) scramble motor-cycles.

No. As my hon. Friend, the Under-Secretary of State for Trade told the House on Monday 15 November—[Vol. 32, c. 2]—responsibility for the environmental impact of microlight aircraft rests with his Department and he is currently considering what action to take; however, I am aware that there is considerable public anxiety and I have, in fact. recently expressed my own concern to him. Local authorities already have powers under S58 of the Control of Pollution Act 1974 to control noise nuisance from motorcycle scrambling.

New Town Local Authorities (Claims)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what progress there has been in reaching a settlement with new town local authorities of section 51 claims; and if he will make a statement.

Following my discussion with a group of hon. Members on 8 November, I had a useful meeting with the Association of District Councils on 11 November. In the light of these further representations, in particular on the special problems of Easington and Sedgefield district councils, I agreed to certain improvements in the terms offered, details of which have been sent to my hon. Friend. These improvements will mainly affect Easington and Sedgefield district councils, who stand to receive over 30 per cent. more grant as a result, but the other authorities concerned will also benefit to some extent. I am hopeful that the authorities will accept this final offer in full and final settlement of their claims.

Mobile Homes

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what percentage he intends to prescribe as the maximum level of commission or discount that a mobile home site owner can charge on the sale of a mobile home, under the provisions of the Mobile Homes Bill [Lords].

A new consultation paper has been issued today inviting views on the maximum level of commission or discount that should be prescribed. An order made under the Mobile Homes Act 1975 prescribes a maximum level of 15 per cent. for a commission or discount charged on the sale of a mobile home by a resident who has an agreement under the Act. The Mobile Homes Bill, like the 1975 Act, will empower the Secretary of State to prescribe a maximum level. This consultation paper follows a paper issued on 4 February this year and invites further comments on the arguments put forward in the responses to that paper, for and against retaining the 15 per cent. maximum. Responses to the consultation paper are invited by 31 January 1983.

Housing Corporation

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how the Housing Corporation will use the additional funds available in 1982–83 as a result of the increase to £680 million in its cash limit in England which he announced on 15 November.

I have agreed with the chairman of the Housing Corporation that these additional funds will be used by housing associations as follows:

£ million
Increased expenditure on fair rent and hostel schemes60
Refinancing of associations' private borrowings guaranteed by the Corporation60
Purchase of dwellings for sale on shared ownership terms25
Increased expenditure on major repairs5
150
These additions will permit a material acceleration in the Corporation's fair rent, hostels and low-cost home ownership programmes this year.

Tameside

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if, in calculating grant-related expenditure for Tameside metropolitan borough council, he will make allowance for the fact that Tameside received £570,000 arrears of housing subsidy in the base year 1980, which significantly distorted the figures for that year and means reduced block grant for subsequent years.

Zoological Society Of London

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will make a further statement about financial support for the Zoological Society of London.

Following consideration of the report of a study team, the Zoological Society is preparing an operational plan on the basis of which further decisions on the society's future can be taken. Meanwhile the Government have agreed to make a further grant to the society during the current financial year. Parliamentary approval for a grant of £1·7 million will be sought in a Supplementary Estimate for the Central Environmental Services, etc. Vote (Class VIII, Vote 2). Pending that approval, the expenditure will be met as necessary by repayable advances from the contingencies fund.

Dangerous Materials (Storage)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether the Government will introduce legislation requiring the licensing of all premises on which dangerous materials are handled and stored.

I have been asked to reply.No. Licensing is not necessarily the most effective means of ensuring safety. Controls on the handling and storage of dangerous materials are being broadly reviewed by the Health and Safety Commission as part of more broadly based initiatives to improve, where necessary, current standards of health and safety. It is intended that regulations proposed as a result of these reviews would apply to all work activities including storage.

House Of Commons

Select Committees

asked the Lord President of the Council how many (a) Cabinet Ministers, (b) other Ministers and (c) senior civil servants of under-secretary rank and above have appeared before each of the new Select Committees for each parliamentary Session since their appointment; and if he will also list the number of their appearances before the same Committees.

The information is set out in the following tables.

Session 1979–80
CommitteeCabinet MinistersNon-Cabinet MinistersOpen-structure civil servants
Number who have appeared
Agriculture104
Defence1010
Education, Science and Arts2011
Employment129
Energy200
Environment114
Foreign Affairs1424
Sub-Committee019
Home Affairs023
Sub-Committee106
Industry and Trade226
Scottish Affairs1215
Social Services124
Transport119
Treasury and Civil Service1119
Sub-Committee0016
Welsh Affairs207
Number of appearances
Agriculture104
Defence1019
Education, Science and Arts4018
Employment4213
Energy200
Environment116
Foreign Affairs2951
Sub-Committee0114
Home Affairs024
Sub-Committee107
Industry and Trade226
Scottish Affairs1210
Social Services3210
Transport1118
Treasury and Civil Service4241
Sub-Committee0019
Welsh Affairs3019
Session 1980–81
CommitteeCabinet MinistersNon-Cabinet MinistersOpen- structure civil servants
Number who have appeared of
Agriculture004
Defence1019
Education, Science and Arts1213
Employment2211
Energy103
Environment114
Foreign Affairs2312
Sub-Committee028
Home Affairs305
Sub-Committee019
Industry and Trade226
Scottish Affairs135
Social Services106
Transport014
Treasury and Civil Service2014
CommitteeCabinet MinistersNon-Cabinet MinistersOpen-structure civil servants
Number who have appeared of
Sub-Committee1010
Welsh Affairs117
number of appearances
Agriculture004
Defence2031
Education, Science and Arts3214
Employment4213
Energy1010
Environment115
Foreign Affairs3416
Sub-Committee0213
Home Affairs306
Sub-Committee019
Industry and Trade426
Scottish Affairs246
Social Services2010
Transport016
Treasury and Civil Service2023
Sub-Committee1010
Welsh Affairs1113
Session 1981–82
CommitteeCabinet MinisterNon-Cabinet MinistersOpen-structure civil servants
Number who have appeared of
Agriculture*106
Defence1220
Education, Science and Arts5814
Employment134
Energy223
Environment023
Foreign Affairs2110
Sub-Committee003
Home Affairs015
Sub-Committee338
Industry and Trade138
Scottish Affairs135
Social Services248
Transport307
Treasury and Civil Service1021
Sub-Committee3226
Welsh Affairs1112
Number of appearances
Agriculture*108
Defence3224
Education, Science and Arts81424
Employment346
Energy224
Environment025
Foreign Affairs3121
Sub-Committee003
Home Affairs017
Sub-Committee3610
Industry and Trade268
Scottish Affairs233
Social Services2412
Transport3014
Treasury and Civil Service4050
Sub-Committee3230
Welsh Affairs2116

* Not a formal proceeding.

asked the Lord President of the Council if he will list the number of witnesses from central Government Departments who have appeared before each of the new Select Committees for each parliamentary Session since their appointment; and what is the number of times they have given evidence.

The information is set out in the following tables.

Session 1979–80
CommitteeNumber of witnessesNumber of appearances
Agriculture2325
Defence4967
Education, Science and Arts2634
Employment1013
Energy22
Environment1012
Foreign Affairs1216
Sub-Committee2031
Home Affairs1618
Sub-Committee1011
Industry and Trade2629
Scottish Affairs2631
Social Services1429
Transport1424
Treasury and Civil Service2350
Sub-Committee1720
Welsh Affairs1427
Session 1980–81
CommitteeNumber of witnessesNumber of appearances
Agriculture1313
Defence4963
Education, Science and Arts3437
Employment810
Energy2733
Environment89
Foreign Affairs2732
Sub-Committee1217
Home Affairs1014
Sub-Committee3134
Industry and Trade2528
Scottish Affairs2129
Social Services1324
Transport810
Treasury and Civil Service1625
Sub-Committee1414
Welsh Affairs1825
Session 1981–82
CommitteeNumber of witnessesNumber of appearances
Agriculture1825
Defence4754
Education, Science and Arts4262
Employment1013
Energy1215
Environment1824
Foreign Affairs1118
Sub-Committee1114
Home Affairs1314
Sub-Committee2837
Industry and Trade1721
Scottish Affairs1522
Social Services2839
Transport2129
Treasury and Civil Service3060
Sub-Committee3946
Welsh Affairs3846

Catering Department

asked the Lord President of the Council if he will list the 10 major suppliers of pottery, cutlery and souvenirs to the Catering Department over the last year, setting out the value of supply, the name of the company and the country of its registration; and what is the total value of supplies in this category.

I have been asked to reply.It is not the practice to disclose the names of suppliers to the House. All companies supplying souvenirs, pottery and cutlery to the Refreshment Department are registered in the United Kingdom. During the year ended October 1982 these companies supplied items to the value of £186,900 (excluding VAT).

Prime Minister

Engagements

Q5.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 18 November.

Q6.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 18 November.

Q7.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 18 November.

Q8.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 18 November.

Q10.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 18 November.

Q11.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 18 November.

Q12.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 18 November.

Q13.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 18 November.

Q15.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 18 November.

Q16.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 18 November.

Q17.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 18 November.

Q18.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 18 November.

Q19.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 18 November.

Q21.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 18 November.

Q22.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 18 November.

Q23.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 18 November.

Q24.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 18 November.

Q25.

asked the Prime Minister what are her official engagements for Thursday 18 November.

Q26.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 18 November.

Q27.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 18 November.

Q28.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 18 November.

Q29.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official duties for Thursday 18 November.

Q30.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official duties for Thursday 18 November.

Q31.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 18 November.

Q32.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 18 November.

Q33.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 18 November.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 18 November.

This morning I presided at a meeting of the Cabinet and had meetings with ministerial colleagues and others. Later I took part in the presentation of the Humble Address to Her Majesty the Queen on the occasion of the birth of Prince William of Wales. In addition to my duties in the House I shall be having further meetings later today including one with President Masire of Botswana. This evening I shall be attending a State banquet at Hampton Court Palace given by Her Majesty Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands in honour of Her Majesty the Queen.

Chile

Q9.

asked the Prime Minister what contacts have taken place between Her Majesty's Government and the Government of Chile over that Government's policy towards the proposal to include the matter of sovereignty over the Falkland Islands on the agenda of the General Assembly of the United Nations.

None. The item on the agenda of the United Nations General Assembly was entitled "The Question of the Falkland Islands '(Malvinas)'"— and did not refer to sovereignty.

Magistrates' Courts

Q14.

asked the Prime Minister if she will take steps to tranfer responsibility for the legal procedures in magistrates' courts from the Home Department to the Lord Chancellor's Department.

I am not satisfied that the balance of advantage is in favour of such a change.

Soviet Pipeline (Sanctions)

asked the Prime Minister if she will make a statement on the withdrawal of sanctions by the United States Government against British companies involved in the construction of supplies for the Soviet pipeline.

We warmly welcome President Reagan's decision to lift in their entirety the United States oil and gas measures of last December and June. This will free our companies and their work forces, especially John Brown Engineering, from the heavy penalties they were incurring simply through striving to fulfil their existing contracts. We also welcome the successful conclusion to the Washington discussions on East-West economic relations. We believe that it is fully consistent with Britain's interests for Western nations to formulate a common approach to their economic relations with the East. This has been one of our major policy objectives during the summer. We shall play an active part in the studies on East-West economic relations which we have all agreed to undertake and to which Her Majesty's Government are wholeheartedly committed.

Atomic Waste

asked the Prime Minister in what circumstances vessels carrying atomic waste may dock in a shipyard in a populous area; and what precautions are taken to guarantee the health of those working in the yard and of those living in the vicinity.

Before entering a shipyard, any vessel which had been carrying atomic waste would be unloaded and surveyed to detect any significant surface contamination, which would then be cleaned off. Work done on the vessel in the shipyard would be monitored so that any significant underlying contamination which might then become exposed would likewise be detected and removed. Any radioactive waste would be accumulated and disposed of in accordance with the terms of an authorisation granted by the appropriate Environment Department. Workers involved would be given appropriate training in the precautions necessary to prevent personal contamination.

"Buy British" Campaign

asked the Prime Minister if she will make a cost-benefit assessment of a "Buy British" advertising campaign and its potential effect on unemployment.

No. Even if the Government were to embark on such an advertising campaign, I would doubt the practical usefulness of attempting the cost-benefit assessment suggested.

Northern Ireland

Social Democratic And Labour Party

26.

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland when he last had talks with the Social Democratic and Labour Party.

My right hon. Friend met elected representatives of the Social Democratic and Labour Party on 2 November.

Belfast (Unemployment)

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what was the latest percentage level of unemployment in the Belfast travel-to-work area; and what were the comparable figures for November 1979.

At 14 October 1982, the percentage rate of unemployment in the Belfast travel-to-work area was 18·8 per cent. At 8 November 1979 the figure was 9 per cent.

Security Forces (Deaths And Injuries)

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many members of the security forces have been either killed or injured during street riots in Northern Ireland during the past 13 years.

I regret that this information is not available in the form requested.

Transport

Rail Electrification (London-Bedford)

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what losses have been sustained through the early completion of electrification between London and Bedford and the non-operation of facilities through union manning problems.

The investment which has been lying idle represents about £150,000 a week in interest costs, although a later investment might have cost more.

Traffic Forecasts

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what were the traffic forecast figures used in the design of the M4 (Severn Bridge), the M53 (Liverpool), the A470 (Cardiff), the M3 (Frimley-Lightwater), the M4 (Reading), the M6 (Gravelly Hill), the A3 (Hog's Back Flyover), the M5 (Taunton), the Al9 (Cleveland) and the A2 (Dover Harbour); and what are their present measured traffic volumes.

The available information for roads in England is as follows. The A470 (Cardiff) is the responsibility of my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Wales.

Road

Design Forecast

Latest available traffic count

Year of forecast

Definition

Year to which forecast relates

Forecast

*

(vehicles)

Year

24-hour AADF(vehicles)

M4 (Severn Bridge)‡ Junctions 21–22[1966]Average 24-hour day[1980][33,000]198133,000
M53 (Wirral) Junctions 2–31966Evening Peak (1 hour)19905,000197925,000
Junctions 4–51966Evening Peak (1 hour)19905,500198026,000
M3 (Frimley-Lightwater) Junctions 3–41967Average 24-hour day198248,000198142,000
M4 (Reading) Junctions 9–101964Average 16-hour day198274,000198056,000
Junctions 11–121964Average 16-hour day198244,000198142,000
M6 (Gravelly Hill) Junctions 6–7Data not readily available198078,000
A3 (Hog's Back Flyover)Data not readily available198027,000
M5 (Taunton) Junctions 24–251970Average 16-hour day198441,000198019,000
Al9 (Cleveland)1968Average 16-hour day198331,000197932,000
A2 (Dover Eastern Harbour)1974Average 16-hour August day19905,500197916,000

Notes:

* 2-way flows.

† Annual Average Daily Flow—2-way.

‡ Design year forecast not readily available. The forecast shown was made in 1966 for the purpose of fixing tolls.

║Assuming the completion of the M20 to Folkestone and its extension to Dover (West).

Transport And Road Research Laboratory

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what was the total cost of funding the Transport and Road Research Laboratory in 1979, 1980, 1981 and 1982; and what was the expenditure on heavy goods vehicle projects.

The gross TRRL spend and expenditure specifically on heavy goods vehicle projects over the last four financial years at outturn prices is:

1978–791979–801980–811981–82
£ million£ million£ million£ million
TRRL10·411·514·112·7
HGV Projects0·590·440·710·93
This does not include the cost of projects of a more general nature on road design, safety and traffic engineering which also contribute to a better understanding of the issues relating to heavy goods vehicles.

Roads (Underspending)

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what was the level of underspending on roads in 1981–82.

Net expenditure on motorways and trunk roads in England in 1981–82 was £51 million, (7½ per cent.) below the cash equivalent of plans published in Cmnd. 8175. Lower-than-expected construction and land prices enabled new construction to progress faster than planned, and reconstruction of older motorways to be accelerated at less cash cost.Local roads are the responsiblity of local highway authorities. Outturn figures are not yet available, but provisional estimates suggest the outturn for local roads will be about £40 million, (3½ per cent.) less than the cash equivalent of plans published in Cmnd. 8175. Capital expenditure is likely to be £60 million (15½ per cent.) below the planned level while current expenditure is likely to be slightly above (3 per cent.).

Motor Cycle Crash Helmets

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if any progress has been made in improving the procedure for dealing with faulty motor cycle helmets.

Individual helmet manufacturers are now being consulted through their association about including helmets in the code of practice on parts and accessories defects. The code will come into operation on 1 January 1983.

Heavy Lorries (Drivers Hours)

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if, in view of the widespread flouting of its provisions, he is satisfied that European Economic Community regulation No. 553/69, which establishes work-rest schedules for heavy goods vehicle drivers, permits viable commercial operations.

I believe that in general the EC social hours regulation 543/69 provides a reasonable basis for commercial road haulage operations, but I am aware that it may cause difficulties in certain circumstances. I hope that the Commission's current review of the Regulation will lead to new proposals that will allow greater flexibility in dealing wth these circumstances, while not detracting from the overall objectives of securing improved road safety and fair competition.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he is satisfied that European Economic Community regulation No. 553/69 is satisfactory from the health and safety point of view in establishing adequate rest periods for British heavy goods vehicle drivers in all situations.

I am satisfied that the provisions of regulation EC 543/69 and of the Transport Act 1968 provide adequate safeguards for drivers and other road users.

Seat Belts

asked the Secretary of State for Transport, further to the reply to the hon. Member for the Isle of Ely (Mr. Freud), Offcial Report, 21 October, c. 199,if, in view of the difficulty caused to many people in finding the £19 fee for a medical examination for issue of a certificate of exemption from wearing a seat belt, he will bring this examination within National Health Service provision.

No. It has always been understood throughout the debates on this issue that this service would be outside a doctor's National Health Service commitment. I believe we have made adequate arrangements for those who are most likely to have difficulty paying a fee, by providing free examinations for those on low incomes or who are disabled. In other cases, doctors are able to charge less than the £19 fee recommended by the British Medical Association, particularly when considering applications from those whose medical conditions they know well.

Assistance paid or offered to the Textile, Clothing and Footwear Industries in Great Britain£ million
Financial Years
1979–801980–811981–82April-Sept. 1982
Regional development grants (amounts paid)
Textiles9·613·115·13·5
Clothing and footwear3·14·65·21·7
Total12·717·720·35·2
Selective assistance section 7 and 8 (value of offers)
Textiles9·36·99·63·8
Clothing and footwear4·44·02·83·3
Total13·710·912·47·1
Information about assistance granted to companies in areas which became non-assisted on 1 August 1982 is not available.

Textiles And Clothing

asked the Secretary of State for Industry (1) what proportion of the United Kingdom market for manufactured goods is taken by imports from less developed countries; and what is the proportion taken up by textiles and clothing, respectively, from less developed countries;(2) what have been the trends in retail prices for textiles and clothing, respectively, in recent years; and how these trends have compared with price changes in general.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what share of the United Kingdom market for textiles and clothing, respectively, is taken by United Kingdom production.

The shares for textiles and clothing in the first half of 1982 were 59 per cent. and 67 per cent. respectively. These proportions are defined as United Kingdom manufacturers' sales to the home market as percentages of apparent home consumption—estimated as total sales by United Kingdom manufacturers minus exports plus imports. Textiles and clothing are defined as products classified to minimum list headings 411–429 and 441–449 respectively of the Standard Industrial Classification (Revised 1968).

Steel Industry

asked the Secretary of State for Industry (1) if he will set out, both in terms of value and volume,

Industry

Textile, Clothing And Footwear Industries

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will provide figures indicating the level of Government assistance in the form of regional development grants and industry aid assistance to the United Kingdom textile, clothing and footwear industries during 1979, 1980, 1981 and the first half of 1982 in the form of (a) the total amounts granted and (b) the amounts granted to companies in areas which lost their assisted area status on 1 August in the current year.

The following is the only information available; it is not precisely in the form requested:the proportion of United Kingdom imports of steel from the European Economic Community that have been covered by exports for each of the past eight years, ending at the month for which the figures are most recently available;(2) if he will set out the output of the steel industry of each European Economic Community country and the European Economic Community as a whole for each of the past eight years as a tonnage and as a value both absolutely and indexed against the 1974 volume and the United Kingdom retail prices index for years ending at the month for which figures are most recently available.

British Telecom

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will make a statement on British Telecom's financial objective.

Following a review of BT's prospects for 1983–84 I have set the corporation a financial objective of a real rate of return of 6½ per cent. for that year. As with the previous target, "real return" is defined as profit before interest payable but charging historic and supplementary depreciation as a percentage of mean net assets revalued to replacement cost.The chairman has undertaken to constrain BT' s deferred tariff package, which will not in any event be introduced before April 1983 at the earliest. The increase in average bills will be no more than 3·3 per cent.

BT will at the same time introduce a rebate scheme which will refund part of the standing charge to consumers who make little use of their telephones for outward calls.

These measures, together with the external financing limit of £120 million as laid before Parliament on 8 November will keep BT under pressure to increase efficiency and should provide greater internal resources to fund its investment programme.

British Leyland (Corporate Plan)

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will make his approval of British Leyland's corporate plan conditional upon the ending of the buying and retail selling of imported components and tools by the company; and if he will make a statement.

[pursuant to his reply, 15 November 1982, c.36]: No. Such a condition would be an undue constraint on the commercial judgment of the BL board.

Social Services

National Health Service (Beds)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will give details of the average daily number of National Health Service beds occupied in the United Kingdom for each of the years 1960, 1970, 1980, and at the latest date available; and if he will show, in each case, the ratio of staff to each occupied bed.

The average daily number of occupied NHS beds in the United Kingdom for these years and the ratio of hospital medical, dental, nursing and midwifery staff to such beds, were as follows:

196019701980
Average daily number of occupied beds (thousands)478441370
Ratio of hospital, medical, dental nursing and midwifery staff per 1,000 occupied beds*552·0753·51,253.4

* These ratios are based on staffing figures which are of whole-time equivalent staff for 1970 and 1980; but since neither whole-time equivalent nor headcount figures are consistently available for all the relevant staff groups in 1960 the figures used in calculating the ratios for these years are a mixture of whole-time equivalents and headcount as available. The figures for all three years include locums and agency staff but exclude hospital practitioners, clinical assistants and general medical practitioners participating in hospital staff funds.

The staff figures used are confined to hospital medical, dental, nursing and midwifery staff because overall NHS staff figures after 1974 include community health staff but before 1974 were mainly for hospital services. Only hospital medical, dental, nursing and midwifery staff figures are available on a comparable basis before and after 1974.

Ratios of staff to occupied or available beds are not an indicator of health authority staff productivity. There has been a steady increase in the number of patients treated per bed, including day patients and day cases, and the number of staff required is determined more by the number of patients treated and the amount of treatment and care they receive than by the number of beds.

No figures for occupied beds are yet available for any year after 1980.

Unemployment Benefit

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) what is his estimate of the cost of putting all unemployed persons between 16 and 60 years on ordinary unemployment benefits regardless of the length of such unemployment in respect of (a) males and (b) females; and what would be the difference to the tax yield as a result;(2) what is his estimate of the cost of putting every unemployed person aged between 60 and 65 years on long-term rates of benefit.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many of the total of those registered as unemployed in the United Kingdom are people aged over 60 years who have taken early retirement and need to sign on at the unemployment benefit office only for the purpose of maintaining their right to a State pension at the age of 65 years and not for the purpose of obtaining work.

Entitlement to credits for periods of unemployment depends, as does entitlement to benefit, on the person being available for work; and people who do not intend to get another job are not entitled to credits. There are some 80,000 men aged 60 to 64 inclusive in the United Kingdom who are not receiving benefit but who are either claiming it or declaring their availability for work in order to get credits. It is not known how many of these have taken early retirement. At least some 25,000 of them in Great Britain are known to be receiving occupational pensions; figures for occupational pensioners in Northern Ireland are not available. They may or may not need credits in order to qualify for a full basic retirement pension at age 65; the credits they get would in most cases be of value to them in the event of their returning to work and subsequently needing to claim sickness or unemployment benefit. Some 12,000 of them are not claiming unemployment benefit because it would be extinguished by the amount of their occupational pension in excess of £35 a week; they need not attend the unemployment benefit office but may make quarterly declarations of unemployment and availability for work by post.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many people in each of the travel-to-work areas that make up the Carmarthen constituency have exhausted their entitlement to unemployment benefit.

Information is not available in the form requested, but I can give the hon. Member, as an approximation, figures for the Ammanford and Haverfordwest unemployment benefit offices which cover the majority of claimants in the Carmarthen constituency.At August 1982 there were 750 unemployed claimants at Ammanford and 950 at Haverfordwest who had exhausted their entitlement to unemployment benefit. The figure for Ammanford includes claimants at the Brynamman, Garnant, Llandeilo and Llandovery offices and the figure for Haverfordwest includes claimants at the Carmarthen and Llandyssul offices.

Child Health Surveillance

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is his policy on family practitioner child health surveillance; whether, if this is undertaken by family medical practitioners, there will be extra financial incentives to those who co-operate in such a scheme; what the source of this extra finance will be; and if he will ensure that no other field of primary care is given lesser financial provision in consequence.

The Government accept the principle that the medical component of child health surveillance should, in future, increasingly be based on general practice. Various proposals for extending the role of general practitioners in preventive work for children are being considered within the health departments and by the relevant professional bodies but no decisions have yet been reached upon them.

National Health Service

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many days have been lost in strike action, and how many people have been involved in strike action, in the National Health Service in each year since 1975.

The following table gives the estimated number of days lost through industrial action in the National Health Service in the United Kingdom since 1975, as compiled by the Department of Employment.

Number of staff involvedNumber of days lost
19756,00020,000
19764,44015,000
19772,9708,200
19783,70015,000
197939,200621,000
198014,00041,000
198116,40044,000
*1982†600,000†3,130,000
* 9 months.
† Provisional.
Separate information is not available for England.
£ 000's
Region1975–761976–771977–781978–791979–801980–81
Northern247262325362472642
Yorkshire96320264462565746
Trent180270374468527678
East Anglian68105146205231232
North West Thames154230219459576763
North East Thames267400384432528604
South East ThamesN/A347430472551734
South West Thames127186362311288584
Wessex90214244317372509
Oxford176222219308381429
South Western3187147260345425
West Midlands198355378452582728
Mersey4849105132161216
North Western155204258176539901

Regional Health Authorities (Manpower)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what were the manpower estimates for each regional health authority in 1982–83 prior to the 6·4 per cent. offer to nurses on 8 March and after the 7·5 per cent. offer to nurses in June.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what percentage of the National Health Service budget has been spent on pay in each financial year since 1973–74.

The information requested is as follows:

Financial YearPay as a percentage of expenditure
1974–7568·9
1975–7669·5
1976–7770·4
1977–7869·2
1978–7968·9
1979–8069·8
1980–8170·8
1981–8269·4

Notes:

1. The figures relate to the NHS in England only and were derived from accounts submitted by health authorities, including the dental estimates board and prescription pricing authority.

2. The expenditure figures used in calculating the percentages include both capital and revenue expenditure other than the cost of the family practitioner services provided by contractors.

3. The salaries and wages figures used in the calculations include employer's national insurance and superannuation contributions, but not the fees paid to contractors providing family practitioner services.

Health Education (Expenditure)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what information he has as to how much was spent on health education and promotion by each regional health authority for each financial year from 1974–75 until 1982–83.

The following table shows how much was recorded in the 1975–76 to 1980–81—the latest available—accounts of health authorities in each NHS region in England on health education programmes organised by health education departments. It does not include aspects of health education provided as part of the normal day-to-day duties of those providing direct patient care. The information was not collected for 1974–75.

Manpower forecasts have in the past been made as part of health authorities' programmes which are revised annually in the light of their financial allocations. The system is being reformed but we have not so far sought forecasts at shorter intervals such as are implied in the hon. Member's question The Government's final pay offer for this year made in June obviously had some effect on possible increases in manpower that might otherwise have taken place but exact numbers cannot be calculated.

Retirement Pensions

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will publish a table comparing in £ sterling terms the State funded retirement pension for single persons and married couples, respectively, for the most recent available year, in Austria, Finland, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland and the United Kingdom.

The most recent information available to me indicates that only Finland and Denmark of the countries inquired about do not calculate old age pensions wholly or in part as a proportion of past earnings. In addition, provisions for calculating old age pensions—for example, dynamisation—are likely to differ from one country to another.

Austria

Old age pensions are wholly related to past earnings; maximum pension cannot exceed 79·5 per cent. of covered earnings.

Finland

From 1 April 1982, the annual rate of old age pension, including means-tested supplement for single persons with no dependent child, increased to £1,709* (15,864 F Mk): the rate for married couples is not readily available.

Denmark

From 1 October 1982, the annual rates of old age pension including means-tested supplement for single persons and married couples were increased to £2,425 (36,528 DKr) and £4,569 (68,808 DKr) respectively.

Norway

From 1 May 1982, the annual minimum rates of old age pension for single persons and married couples were increased to £2,632 (32,088 NKr) and £4,270 (52,054 NKr) respectively. In addition, earnings-related pension may be payable.

Sweden

From 1 January 1982, the annual rates of basic old age pension for single persons and married couples were increased to £1,352 (16,910 SKr) and £2,205 (27,590 SKr) respectively. In addition, earnings-related pension may be payable.

Switzerland

From 1 January 1982, the minimum annual rates of basic old age pension for single persons and married couples were increased to £1,612 (SFrs 5,952) and £2,418 (SFrs 8,928), respectively. In addition, earnings-related pension may be payable.

United Kingdom

From 22 November 1982 the annual rates of old age pension for single persons and married couples will be increased to £1,718† and £2,748† respectively. In addition, earnings-related pension may be payable.
* All currency conversions based on rates of exchange reported for 1 November 1982.
† Annual rates calculated by multiplying, by 52·3, the weekly rates.

Social Security Expenditure Savings

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will update the answer he gave on 28 January, Official Report, column 433, outlining expenditure savings to the social security budget in respect of 1982–83.

The approximate effect on planned social security expenditure in 1982–83 which is expected to be about £32,000 million, of savings from social security changes made by the Government since 1979 is estimated to be of the following order:

£ million
Social Security Act 1980
(i) Keeping pensions and long-term benefits in line with prices rather than with the higher of prices or earnings500
(ii) Deferring uprating by two weeks100
Social Security (No. 2) Act 1980
(i) Five per cent. abatement (of UB, SB, MA, IB and IVB)500
(ii) 'Freezing' Retirement Pensioners' Earnings rule
(iii) Changes to 'waiting days' and linking
(iv) Abolition of earnings related supplement
(v) Abatement of unemployment benefit for occupational pensioners over 60
(vi) Reduction of supplementary benefit for strikers' families
Social Security Act 1981
Recovery of 1 per cent. "overshoot" on social security benefits200
Measures not requiring primary legislation
Uprating national insurance child dependency additional by legal minimum50
Changeover to four-weekly payment of child benefit40
Cessation of child benefit for a young person starting work or a course, for example, under the youth opportunities programme10
Change in the basis of uprating supplementary benefit (effective from week commencing 22 November 1982)10

Day Nursery Places

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the current recommended level of day nursery places in local authorities; and how many local authorities meet these guidelines.

There is no nationally recommended level of provision. It is for each authority to determine its requirements for day nurseries in the light of local needs, and the availability of other forms of day care such as child minding.

Whooping Cough Vaccine

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what progress is being made towards a safer whooping cough vaccine.

The Department is supporting the work in this field which is being carried out at the centre for applied microbiology and research and, as I indicated in my reply to the hon. Member for Dundee, West (Mr. Ross) on 27 October 1982—[Vol. 29, c. 435]—it is progressing satisfactorily.

Invalid Vehicles

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many petrol-driven invalid three-wheeler motor vehicles were (a) on the road and (b) in the reserve stock at the latest available date; and what has been (i) the average quarterly intake to stock and (ii) the average quarterly output from stock over the last 12 months.

The position in England at 30 September 1982 was that (a) 8,400 petrol-driven invalid three-wheeler motor vehicles were on the road, and (b) 2,400 such vehicles were in the reserve stock. Over the 12 months ending on the same date (i) the average quarterly intake to stock was 80 vehicles and (ii) the average quarterly output from stock was 74 vehicles.

Play Groups

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many (a) 3-year-old and (b) 4-year-old children in England were in (i) local authority and (ii) voluntary play groups expressed as (a) full-time equivalents and (b) full and unweighted part-timers in each of the last three years for which figures are available.

I regret that information is not available centrally in the form requested.

Primary Care Services

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if, in view of the changing needs and expectations of society, he will set up a Departmental inquiry into the present organisation of primary care services.

The organisation of primary health care services is kept regularly under review. A number of changes relating to family practitioner committees are included in the Health and Social Services and Social Security Adjudications Bill which is currently before Parliament. We have no plans for any further changes.

Wheelchair Service (Report)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will list the recommendations of his Department's report on the wheelchair service published in 1979 (a) which have been accepted and implemented, (b) which have been accepted but await implementation when resources are available and (c) which have been rejected; and if he will make a statement.

As my predecessor explained to the hon. Member in reply to a question on 19 May 1980—[Vol. 985, c. 62.]—the review of the administration of the Department's wheelchair service produced a series of reports based on consultations by officials. These did not list specific recommendations, but two general conclusions emerged: that, although many users appeared to be satisfied with the service, there was still much scope for improvement; and that the service catered better for the majority of users who made moderate use of their wheelchairs than it did for the minority who were heavily dependent on them.Despite financial constraints and a continuous growth in the demand for wheelchairs—currently about 10 per cent. a year—the Department has improved the service in several ways. In his reply my predecessor gave some examples of these improvements. More recently, steps have been taken to make doctors and therapists more aware of the wide range of wheelchairs and accessories available through the Department. Shortly, we expect to extend the availability of some of the more expensive items, such as pressure cushions, and batteries and controls for electric wheelchairs, which will benefit particularly those people who are heavily dependent upon wheelchairs.

Other ways of improving the service are continually being considered and will be introduced whenever resources and opportunities allow.

Hospital Closures

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what consultations have taken place with trade union representatives, the community health council, and the area health authorities concerning the proposed closures of Newsham general hospital and Princess Park hospital; and if he will make a statement.

The Liverpool health authority is drawing up a strategy for the long-term future of health services in the city. Preliminary discussions have already been held with trade unions and the community health councils. Once it has analysed all the options for the future, the authority will formally consult all interested local bodies on its draft strategy.

European Community (Medical Treatment)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will seek the approval of other member States in order to secure amendment of article 2(1) of European Economic Community Regulation 1408/71 which prevents residents of, and taxpayers in, member States who are not nationals of those States receiving medical treatment when visiting other countries within the Community.

Immigrants

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when he expects to have figures available for increases in the immigrant and immigrant-descended population for 1981; and when he received such figures for 1980.

Estimates of the size of the population of New Commonwealth and Pakistani—NCWP—ethnic origin at mid-1981, comparable to those issued in previous years, will be published in early 1983, as soon as the information needed for their compilation is available. The corresponding mid-1980 estimates were published in a population monitor—OPCS series PP1 81/6 on 1 December 1981. Figures of births in the first half of 1981 have been delayed as a result of the industrial action by registrars of births and deaths in the dispute with local authorities, and this has led to the later production of the 1981 estimates.

Junior Doctors (Working Hours)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when the circular on junior doctors' working hours will be issued to health authorities.

We hope to issue a personnel memorandum on this subject in the very near future.

Tadworth Court Hospital

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) what would be the reduction in costs to the National Health Service caused by acceptance of the Spastics Society plan to save Tadworth hospital for sick children, when compared to current costs, for the first and fourth years of implementation, respectively;(2) if he has decided whether to implement the proposals of the Spastics Society for saving the hospital for sick children at Tadworth.

We are considering carefully the suggestion of the Spastics Society for the future of the Tadworth hospital for sick children, together with other proposals. It is too soon for a complete analysis to be made of them or final decisions to be taken. The board of governors decided only yesterday to recommend closure and the transfer of the patients to Queen Mary's Carshalton. I must seek to find a solution to the problem as quickly as is reasonably possible. I expect to receive many representations and I intend to visit Tadworth and Queen Mary's Carshalton hospitals myself before reaching any decision.

Halothane

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) what is the frequency of serious adverse reactions to Halothane when administered once, twice or more in a lifetime and twice within six weeks;(2) what representations he has received and what advice he has given concerning the death of Mrs. H. Teather, of 6 Warren Mount, Kimberworth, Rotherham, Yorkshire, from Halothane poisoning.

My right hon. Friend has received correspondence from the right hon. Member for Bristol, South-East (Mr. Benn) concerning this sad case. The hon. Member will appreciate however that it would not be right for me to comment on individual cases.The statistics requested are not available. The association of this anaesthetic agent with serious adverse effects has been the subject of extensive investigation and it has been concluded that a very small number of people—perhaps about one in 30,000—may develop a serious reaction, which may cause liver damage, especially if they are anaesthetised with halothane more than once within a short period. Doctors were warned of this possibility in a letter from the Committee on Safety of Medicines in 1974, and product literature includes a warning about repeated use of the drug.

Citizenship Registration (Fees)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will consider making available to pensioners and those in receipt of supplementary benefit a special grant or interdepartmental credit to cover the cost of fees in respect of the registration for British citizenship for those so qualified and resident in the United Kingdom.

I do not think this would be an appropriate use of the supplementary benefit scheme, which is intended to make provision for basic living expenses.

Nhs (Pay)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) in what way the proposed pay review body for nurses, midwives and professions supplementary to medicine will deal with the specific problem of low pay within these groups;

(2) what recommendations Her Majesty's Government will make to the proposed pay review body for nurses, midwives and professions supplementary to medicine concerning the procedures it should adopt to ensure that the value to the community of the work of nurses, midwives and professions supplementary to medicine is properly measured, in circumstances where value to the community is not reflected in the market value of comparators pay;

(3) whether Her Majesty's Government, in the light of the Megaw report, will propose to the pay review body for nurses, midwives and professions supplementary to medicine that it should separate its procedures for determining annual pay increases from its procedures for determining whether absolute levels of pay are set at the correct level;

(4) if Her Majesty's Government anticipates that the proposed pay review body for nurses, midwives and professions supplementary to medicine will employ management consultants to collect and analyse data on comparable jobs; and if the staff sides of the relevant Whitley councils will have the right to challenge the assumptions used in such data collection, and the data itself, before the pay review body reaches conclusions on a question;

(5) in the light of the Megaw committee's conclusion that it could not find an acceptable method of placing value on job security and that there were practical problems in evaluating the importance given to wastage and ease of recruitment, whether Her Majesty's Government will eliminate these factors from being considered by the proposed pay review body for nurses, midwives and professions supplementary to medicine.

If the Whitley council negotiations on pay for the relevant groups reach a satisfactory conclusion, the Government propose to consult the professional bodies and Trades Unions involved on the exact scope and terms of reference of the proposed review body on the pay of nurses, midwives and professions allied to medicine. I would expect the proposed review body itself to determine its detailed method of working and the form of its recommendations.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what was the total pay bill, including merit payments, for medically qualified staff covered in negotiations by the doctors and dentists review board, for each financial year since 1974–75, including his estimate for the financial year 1982–83.

The information requested is as follows:

£ millions
1974–75329
1975–76454
1976–77494
1977–78521
1978–79590
1979–80756
1980–811,018
1981–821,115
1982–831,188

Note:

The remuneration of general practitioners covers both pay and expenses. These totals include estimates of the pay element net of expenses.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will list, for each financial year since the doctors and dentists review board was established (a) the average pay increase and implementation date recommended by the doctors and dentists review board and (b) the average pay increase and implementation date awarded by Her Majesty 's Government.

Since the current doctors and dentists review body system was established in 1971 the average pay increases recommended have been:

Per cent.
1971*8·0
19728·0
19734·5
19747·4
19753·5
19762·2
19772·5
197810·0
197925·7
198031·4
19819·0
1982†9·0
* For most staff
†Expressed as a 6 per cent. increase over the 1981 recommendations
All recommendations relate to 1 April of the year in question. All have been implemented in full from that date except:

  • (a) in 1975 only half the recommended increases were implemented for those earning over £13,000;
  • (b) in 1981 a 6 per cent. award was implemented from 1 April;
  • (c) in 1982 the abatement from the previous year was carried forward, and an increase of just over 6 per cent. was implemented from 1 April.
  • asked the Secretary of State for Social Service (1) if Her Majesty's Government are prepared to accept recommendations from the proposed pay review body for nurses, midwives and professional supplementary to medicine to set the correct level of pay in absolute terms in comparison with other jobs in the economy, if such recommendations meant substantial increases in salaries of these groups on a once and for all basis;(2) if Her Majesty's Government will undertake to accept recommendations from the proposed pay review body for nurses, midwives and professions supplementary to medicine if such recommendations are based on the principle that comparability should only be with "good employers" outside the National Health Service, in line with the recommendations of the Priestley report;(3) under what circumstances Her Majesty's Government will refuse to implement recommendations from the proposed pay review body for nurses, midwives and professions supplementary to medicine.

    The Government's precise attitude towards possible detailed recommendations cannot be determined in advance. We have not proposed the review body with any intention of disregarding its recommendations. As with other review bodies, we must reserve the right not to accept recommendations if there are clear and compelling national reasons for doing so.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if it is Her Majesty's Government's intention that the proposed pay review body for nurses, midwives and professions supplementary to medicine should hear evidence from the staff and management sides of the relevant Whitley councils and from other interested parties such as Her Majesty's Government, before determining a question; and if he is satisfied that the pay review body will then be able to reach independent conclusions.

    I would expect the proposed review body, like existing review bodies, to receive evidence from interested parties. It will be independent and will, of course, be free to reach whatever conclusions it considers right.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) if it is Her Majesty's Government's intention that the proposed pay review body for nurses, midwives and professions supplementary to medicine should be an independent body with members appointed by the Government, or that it should include amongst its membership representatives of the staff and management sides of the relevant Whitley councils;(2) whether the nurses and midwives Whitley council will retain any role in negotiations on behalf of nurses and midwives after the establishment of the proposed pay review body.

    These are amongst the issues which will not be decided until after completion of the consultative process which we expect to be launching shortly.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) if Her Majesty's Government will fund pay increases that may be required to establish the correct absolute pay levels of nurses, midwives and professions supplementary to medicine in relation to other workers in the economy, without recourse to funds held at regional level as part of the cash-limited allocation for a particular financial year;(2) what instructions he will give to the proposed pay review body for nurses, midwives and professions supplementary to medicine in respect of the timing of the submission of their reports to him; and if he will ensure that annual reports are submitted to him before final decisions are made concerning the approved level of pay increase for cash limit purposes in the next financial year.

    We intend that the proposed review body should submit its first report in time for the pay settlement due on 1 April 1984. Decisions about the provision of resources for implementing recommendations made by the review body can only be made at the time.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if Her Majesty's Government will submit evidence to the proposed pay review body for nurses, midwives and professions supplementary to medicine on the Government's ability to pay on the grounds of affordability.

    As with the doctors' and dentists' review body, the Government would expect to submit evidence to the proposed review body on the pay of nurses, midwives and professions allied to medicine on a range of matters, including national economic and financial considerations and the availability of resources to the National Health Service.

    Sick Pay

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he has any proposals to increase the rates of statutory sick pay to operate from April 1983 from the levels set out in the Social Security and Housing Benefits Act 1982.

    In accordance with the provisions of the Social Security and Housing Benefits Act 1982, the rates of statutory sick pay set out in the Act will be reviewed before April 1983. The results of this review will be brought before Parliament as soon as possible.

    New Cross Dental School

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will ensure that facilities are made available for those who fail their examinations in the summer of 1983 at the New Cross dental school to take the normal 12-week retake course.

    [pursuant to his reply, 12 November 1982, c. 301–2]: The retake course has been provided in the past between September and December by the School for Dental Therapists Ltd. at its New Cross school, which is due to close in July 1983 at the end of the academic year.We shall look with sympathy upon any proposal to help any remaining dental therapist students to extend their training by one term and retake their examinations. The approval of the General Dental Council will be required. I understand that the committee of the New Cross school is in contact with the London hospital with a view to arrangements being made.

    Benefits

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) what would be the loss in cash terms in the November 1983 benefit uprating if the following benefits were increased by 1·7 per cent. less than the rate of inflation: retirement pension for a single person and for a married couple, invalidity pension and the short-term and long-term supplementary benefit scale rates for both a single person and a couple;(2) if he will update his answer to the hon. Member for Birmingham, Perry Barr (Mr. Rooker),

    Official Report, 19 October, c. 126, concerning net savings on benefits on the basis of an estimated part year saving for 1983–84 on pensions, social security benefits and child benefit of £180 million.

    If these questions reflect an assumption that the reduction of £180 million in the social security programme for 1983–84, mentioned in paragraph 2.25 of the autumn statement, implies a decision that the increase in all benefits at the November 1983 uprating will be reduced by 1·7 per cent., I must emphasise that that assumption is not correct. My right hon. Friend has made it clear that decisions about the November 1983 uprating will not be taken until the time of the Budget, and that priorities will then be considered as between changes in social security benefits and adjustment of the rates at which they are paid. On this understanding the answers to the questions, are as follows:

    BenefitDifference in cash terms*Net savings
    ££ millions
    Retirement pension
    single person0·5590
    adult dependent0·3590
    (married couple)0·9090
    Invalidity pension
    single person0·55
    Supplementary benefit ordinary rate
    single householder0·45
    couple0·7018
    Supplementary benefit long-term rate
    single householder0·558
    couple0·908
    Unemployment benefit10
    Invalidity benefit10
    Child benefit24
    Other20

    * Note:

    (1) The above figures have been calculated on the assumption that the existing rates of benefit would be uprated by the same percentage. The differences illustrated by the figures, derived from the 1982 benefit rates, would apply generally whatever the forecast movement in prices. In a few instances, depending upon the actual forecast, the amounts could vary by 5p because of rounding effects.

    (2) Amounts quoted are rounded to the nearest 5p.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what have been the savings in each year since 1979 from changes made in the rules governing the claims of students to supplementary benefit since 1979.

    [pursuant to his reply, 12 November 1982, c. 303]: The last major change affecting students' entitlement to supplementary benefit occurred in the academic year 1976–77 when, following the inclusion of an element in the ordinary maintenance grant to cover the Christmas and Easter vacations, the majority of students were excluded from benefit during these vacations.Since 1979 only minor changes have been made in the rules governing students' supplementary benefit entitlement. Information on the costs and savings is not available.

    Home Department

    London Borough Of Newham

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will state for the latest and most convenient stated date as much information as is available to him as to the numbers of itemised crimes committed in the London borough of Newham, the numbers of police employed, the numbers of arrests, charges and convictions and the cost of the police force together with equipment and similar details on a quarterly retrospective basis back to May 1979.

    We understand from the Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis that the information readily available is as set out in the following tables. Information relating to convictions could be provided only at disproportionate cost. The cost to the London borough of Newham, in terms of the amount to be raised through the precept levied by the receiver, is £6,286,815 for the current financial year; this is partly offset through block grant paid through the rate support grant system.

    London Borough of Newham

    Table 1—Notifiable offences recorded by the police

    Number of Offences

    Metropolitan Police Office offence classification

    1979

    1980

    *

    1981

    *

    1982

    *

    2nd Qtr.

    3rd Qtr.

    4th Qtr.

    1st Qtr.

    2nd Qtr.

    3rd Qtr.

    4th Qtr.

    1st Qtr.

    2nd Qtr.

    3rd Qtr.

    4th Qtr.

    1st Qtr.

    2nd Qtr.

    Assaults, etc171155178144177152162129162164142163144
    Robbery and other violent theft86688685109651311771418512617892
    Burglary1,1219371,0091,0681,2528291,1121,3251,4241,1891,2591,2651,374
    Autocrime1,2891,2251,5421,4271,4891,1541,5911,4601,8971,7081,9851,5671,842
    Other theft and handling825740894926857701810807972874885877849
    Fraud and forgery152173216182259240195263178179317161137
    Criminal damage and other offences6995946105897205996819511,010743686790690
    Total4,3433,8924,5354,4214,8633,7404,6824,8125,7844,9425,4005,0015,128

    * Figures for 1980–82 are not directly comparable with those for 1979 because of the introduction of new counting rules at the beginning of 1980 to improve the consistency of recording offences

    Table 2—Persons arrested

    *

    for notifiable offences recorded by the police

    London Borough of Newham

    Number of persons

    *

    Metropolitan Police Office offence classification

    1979

    1980

    1981

    1982

    2nd Qtr.

    3rd Qtr.

    4th Qtr.

    1st Qtr.

    2nd Qtr.

    3rd Qtr.

    4th Qtr.

    1st Qtr.

    2nd Qtr.

    3rd Qtr.

    4th Qtr.

    1st Qtr.

    2nd Qtr.

    Assaults, etc86981181201128597827378727686
    Robbery and other violent theft231015249719363715192816
    Burglary14213811310713610366197213163141123109
    Autocrime201186234192250162185169243176183253203
    Other theft and handling385263354390344298279321334336396357297
    Fraud and forgery47456557808175765447517257
    Criminal damage and other offences11412088100110131138118148133114124135
    Total9988609879901,0418678599991,1029489761,033903

    * Persons proceeded against by means of a charge, referral to a juvenile bureau, a caution or in some other way; arrests not followed by any action are not included.

    Metropolitan Police

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will arrange to place in the Library a transcript of his comments made on Thursday 4 November on BBC television regarding the Metropolitan Police and the opportunities available to question its actions and activities.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will set out his proposals for enabling hon. Members to question him on the activities and actions of the Metropolitan Police, especially where complaints are made regarding its accountability to the taxpayers' representatives.

    I am always willing to answer questions from hon. Members on matters within my Departmental responsibility except on certain subjects where it is not in the public interest to do so. Whether or not a particular proposed question is in order is not of course a matter for me. I have indicated that, in addition to existing arrangements, I am ready to meet groups of hon. Members representing constituencies within the Metropolitan Police district to discuss matters relating to the Metropolitan Police.

    Firearms

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what were the full costs of issuing (a) shotgun and (b) firearm licences in 1979, 1980, 1981 and so far in 1982; and what information he has to how such costs were made up.

    During the period in question only two full surveys of police costs have been undertaken, in 1979 and 1981. The available information is contained in the recent report of the fees review and the letter which my right hon. Friend wrote on 28 July to my hon. Friend the Member for Harborough (Mr. Farr), copies of which were placed in the Library. Information on the other years could be obtained only at disproportionate cost.