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Local Government Finance Bill Money

Volume 124: debated on Thursday 17 December 1987

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Queen's Recommendation having been signified—

Motion made, and Question put,

That, for the purposes of any Act resulting from the Local Government Finance Bill, it is expedient to authorise the payment out of money provided by Parliament of—
  • (a) the remuneration of, and any expenses incurred by, valuation officers in carrying out functions under the provisions of the Act relating to non-domestic rating (including the remuneration and expenses of persons employed to assist them),
  • (b) any expenses of the Secretary of State incurred in consequence of the Act, and
  • (c) any increase attributable to the Act in the sums payable out of money so provided under any other enactment.—[Mr. Dorrell]
  • The House divided: Ayes 323, Noes 156.

    Division No. 124]

    [10.45 pm

    AYES

    Aitken, JonathanBiffen, Rt Hon John
    Alexander, RichardBlackburn, Dr John G.
    Alison, Rt Hon MichaelBlaker, Rt Hon Sir Peter
    Allason, RupertBody, Sir Richard
    Amess, DavidBonsor, Sir Nicholas
    Amos, AlanBoswell, tim
    Arnold, Jacques (Gravesham)Bowden, Gerald (Dulwich)
    Arnold, Tom (Hazel Grove)Bowis, John
    Ashby, DavidBoyson, Rt Hon Dr Sir Rhodes
    Aspinwall, JackBraine, Rt Hon Sir Bernard
    Atkins, RobertBrandon-Bravo, Martin
    Atkinson, DavidBrazier, Julian
    Baker, Rt Hon K. (Mole Valley)Bright, Graham
    Baker, Nicholas (Dorset N)Brittan, Rt Hon Leon
    Baldry, TonyBrooke, Hon Peter
    Banks, Robert (Harrogate)Brown, Michael (Brigg & Cl't's)
    Batiste, SpencerBrowne, John (Winchester)
    Bellingham, HenryBruce, Ian (Dorset South)
    Bendall, VivianBuchanan-Smith, Rt Hon Alick
    Bennett, Nicholas (Pembroke)Buck, Sir Antony
    Bevan, David GilroyBudgen, Nicholas

    Burns, SimonHargreaves, A. (B'ham H'll Gr')
    Burt, AlistairHarris, David
    Butcher, JohnHaselhurst, Alan
    Butler, ChrisHawkins, Christopher
    Butterfill, JohnHayes, Jerry
    Carlisle, John, (Luton N)Hayward, Robert
    Carlisle, Kenneth (Lincoln)Heathcoat-Amory, David
    Carrington, MatthewHeddle, John
    Carttiss, MichaelHicks, Mrs Maureen (Wolv' NE)
    Cash, WilliamHiggins, Rt Hon Terence L.
    Chalker, Rt Hon Mrs LyndaHill, James
    Chapman, SydneyHind, Kenneth
    Chope, ChristopherHogg, Hon Douglas (Gr'th'm)
    Churchill, MrHolt, Richard
    Clark, Hon Alan (Plym'th S'n)Hordern, Sir Peter
    Clark, Dr Michael (Rochiord)Howard, Michael
    Clark, Sir W. (Croydon S)Howarth, Alan (Strat'd-on-A)
    Clarke, Rt Hon K. (Rushcliffe)Howarth, G. (Cannock & B'wd)
    Colvin, MichaelHowe, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey
    Conway, DerekHowell, Rt Hon David (G'dford)
    Coombs, Anthony (Wyre F'rest)Hughes, Robert G. (Harrow W)
    Coombs, Simon (Swindon)Hunt, David (Wirral W)
    Cope, JohnHunt, John (Ravensbourne)
    Couchman, JamesHurd, Rt Hon Douglas
    Cran, JamesJack, Michael
    Currie, Mrs EdwinaJackson, Robert
    Curry, DavidJanman, Timothy
    Davies, Q. (Stamf'd & Spald'g)Johnson Smith, Sir Geoffrey
    Davis, David (Boothferry)Jones, Gwilym (Cardiff N)
    Day, StephenJones, Robert B (Herts W)
    Devlin, TimJopling, Rt Hon Michael
    Dickens, GeoffreyKey, Robert
    Dicks, TerryKing, Roger (B'ham N'thfield)
    Dorrell, StephenKing, Rt Hon Tom (Bridgwater)
    Douglas-Hamilton, Lord JamesKirkhope, Timothy
    Dover, DenKnapman, Roger
    Dunn, BobKnight, Greg (Derby North)
    Durant, TonyKnight, Dame Jill (Edgbaston)
    Dykes, HughKnowles, Michael
    Eggar, TimLamont, Rt Hon Norman
    Emery, Sir PeterLang, Ian
    Evans, David (Welwyn Hatf'd)Latham, Michael
    Evennett, DavidLee, John (Pendle)
    Fairbairn, NicholasLeigh, Edward (Gainsbor'gh)
    Fallon, MichaelLennox-Boyd, Hon Mark
    Farr, Sir JohnLightbown, David
    Favell, TonyLilley, Peter
    Fenner, Dame PeggyLloyd, Sir Ian (Havant)
    Field, Barry (Isle of Wight)Lloyd, Peter (Fareham)
    Finsberg, Sir GeoffreyLord, Michael
    Fookes, Miss JanetLuce, Rt Hon Richard
    Forman, NigelLyell, Sir Nicholas
    Forsyth, Michael (Stirling)MacGregor, John
    Forth, EricMacKay, Andrew (E Berkshire)
    Fowler, Rt Hon NormanMaclean, David
    Fox, Sir MarcusMcLoughlin, Patrick
    Freeman, RogerMcNair-Wilson, M. (Newbury)
    French, DouglasMcNair-Wilson, P. (New Forest)
    Fry, PeterMadel, David
    Gale, RogerMajor, Rt Hon John
    Gardiner, GeorgeMalins, Humfrey
    Gill, ChristopherMans, Keith
    Glyn, Dr AlanMaples, John
    Goodlad, AlastairMarland, Paul
    Goodson-Wickes, Dr CharlesMarlow, Tony
    Gorman, Mrs TeresaMarshall, John (Hendon S)
    Gorst, JohnMarshall, Michael (Arundel)
    Gow, IanMartin, David (Portsmouth S)
    Grant, Sir Anthony (CambsSW)Mates, Michael
    Greenway, John (Rydale)Maude, Hon Francis
    Gregory, ConalMawhinney, Dr Brian
    Griffiths, Sir Eldon (Bury St E')Maxwell-Hyslop, Robin
    Griffiths, Peter (Portsmouth N)Mayhew, Rt Hon Sir Patrick
    Grist, IanMellor, David
    Ground, PatrickMiller, Hal
    Grylls, MichaelMills, Iain
    Gummer, Rt Hon John SelwynMitchell, Andrew (Gedling)
    Hamilton, Hon A. (Epsom)Mitchell, David (Hants NW)
    Hamilton, Neil (Tatton)Moate, Roger
    Hanley, JeremyMonro, Sir Hector

    Montgomery, Sir FergusSpicer, Michael (S Worcs)
    Morris, M (N'hampton S)Squire, Robin
    Morrison, Hon P (Chester)Stanbrook, Ivor
    Moss, MalcolmStanley, Rt Hon John
    Moynihan, Hon C.Steen, Anthony
    Mudd, DavidStern, Michael
    Neale, GerrardStevens, Lewis
    Needham, RichardStewart, Allan (Eastwood)
    Nelson, AnthonyStewart, Andrew (Sherwood)
    Neubert, MichaelStewart, Ian (Hertfordshire N)
    Newton, TonyStradling Thomas, Sir John
    Nicholls, PatrickSumberg, David
    Nicholson, David (Taunton)Summerson, Hugo
    Nicholson, Miss E. (Devon W)Tapsell, Sir Peter
    Onslow, CranleyTaylor, Ian (Esher)
    Oppenheim, PhillipTaylor, John M (Solihull)
    Page, RichardTaylor, Teddy (S'end E)
    Paice, JamesTebbit, Rt Hon Norman
    Parkinson, Rt Hon CecilThatcher, Rt Hon Margaret
    Patnick, IrvineThompson, D. (Calder Valley)
    Patten, Chris (Bath)Thompson, Patrick (Norwich N)
    Patten, John (Oxford W)Thome, Neil
    Pattie, Rt Hon Sir GeoffreyThornton, Malcolm
    Pawsey, JamesTownend, John (Bridlmgton)
    Porter, David (Waveney)Townsend, Cyril D. (B'heath)
    Portillo, MichaelTracey, Richard
    Powell, William (Corby)Tredinnick, David
    Price, Sir DavidTrippier, David
    Raffan, KeithTrotter, Neville
    Raison, Rt Hon TimothyTwinn, Dr Ian
    Redwood, JohnVaughan, Sir Gerard
    Renton, TimViggers, Peter
    Rhodes James, RobertWaddington, Rt Hon David
    Rhys Williams, Sir BrandonWakeham, Rt Hon John
    Riddick, GrahamWaldegrave, Hon William
    Ridley, Rt Hon NicholasWalden, George
    Ridsdale, Sir JulianWalker, Bill (T'side North)
    Rifkind, Rt Hon MalcolmWalker, Rt Hon P. (W'cestor)
    Roberts, Wyn (Conwy)Waller, Gary
    Roe, Mrs MarionWard, John
    Rossi, Sir HughWardle, C. (Bexhill)
    Rost, PeterWarren, Kenneth
    Rowe, AndrewWatts, John
    Rumbold, Mrs AngelaWells, Bowen
    Ryder, RichardWheeler, John
    Sackville, Hon TomWhitney, Ray
    Sainsbury, Hon TimWiddecombe, Miss Ann
    Sayeed, JonathanWiggin, Jerry
    Scott, NicholasWilkinson, John
    Shaw, David (Dover)Wilshire, David
    Shaw, Sir Giles (Pudsey)Winterton, Mrs Ann
    Shaw, Sir Michael (Scarb')Winterton, Nicholas
    Shelton, William (Streatham)Wolfson, Mark
    Shephard, Mrs G. (Norfolk SW)Wood, Timothy
    Shepherd, Colin (Hereford)Woodcock, Mike
    Shersby, MichaelYeo, Tim
    Sims, RogerYoung, Sir George (Acton)
    Smith, Sir Dudley (Warwick)Younger, Rt Hon George
    Smith, Tim (Beaconsfield)
    Soames, Hon NicholasTellers for the Ayes:
    Speed, KeithMr. Robert Boscawen and
    Spicer, Jim (Dorset W)Mr. Tristan Garel-Jones.

    NOES

    Adams, Allen (Paisley N)Boyes, Roland
    Allen, GrahamBradley, Keith
    Alton, DavidBray, Dr Jeremy
    Armstrong, Ms HilaryBrown, Gordon (D'mline E)
    Banks, Tony (Newham NW)Brown, Nicholas (Newcastle E)
    Barnes, Harry (Derbyshire NE)Brown, Ron (Edinburgh LeHh)
    Barron, KevinBuchan, Norman
    Beckett, MargaretCallaghan, Jim
    Beggs, RoyCampbell, Menzies (Fife NE)
    Beith, A. J.Campbell-Savours, D. N.
    Benn, Rt Hon TonyCanavan, Dennis
    Bennett, A. F. (D'nt'n & R'dish)Carlile, Alex (Mont'g)
    Bermingham, GeraldClelland, David
    Bidwell, SydneyClwyd, Mrs Ann
    Blair, TonyCohen, Harry
    Boateng, PaulCook, Robin (Livingston)

    Corbett, RobinHoyle, Doug
    Corbyn, JeremyHughes, John (Coventry NE)
    Cousins, JimHughes, Robert (Aberdeen N)
    Crowther, StanHughes, Roy (Newport E)
    Cryer, BobHughes, Sean (Knowsley S)
    Cunliffe, LawrenceHughes, Simon (Southwark)
    Cunningham, Dr JohnIllsley, Eric
    Dalyell, TarnIngram, Adam
    Darling, AlastairJones, leuan (Ynys Môn)
    Davies, Ron (Caerphilly)Jones, Martyn (Clwyd S W)
    Davis, Terry (B'ham Hodge H'I)Kilfedder, James
    Dixon, DonKinnock, Rt Hon Neil
    Dobson, FrankLambie, David
    Douglas, DickLamond, James
    Eadie, AlexanderLeighton, Ron
    Eastham, KenLewis, Terry
    Evans, John (St Helens N)Livsey, Richard
    Ewing, Harry (Falkirk E)Lloyd, Tony (Stretford)
    Ewing, Mrs Margaret (Moray)Lofthouse, Geoffrey
    Fearn, RonaldMcAllion, John
    Fisher, MarkMcAvoy, Tom
    Foster, DerekMacdonald, Calum
    Garrett, John (Norwich South)McKay, Allen (Penistone)
    Godman, Dr Norman A.McNamara, Kevin
    Golding, Mrs LlinMcTaggart, Bob
    Gordon, Ms MildredMcWilliam, John
    Griffiths, Nigel (Edinburgh S)Madden, Max
    Griffiths, Win (Bridgend)Mahon, Mrs Alice
    Hardy, PeterMarek, Dr John
    Haynes, FrankMarshall, David (Shettleston)
    Henderson, DouglasMartlew, Eric
    Holland, StuartMaxton, John
    Howarth, George (Knowsley N)Meacher, Michael
    Howells, GeraintMeale, Alan

    Michie, Bill (Sheffield Heeley)Smith, Andrew (Oxford E)
    Millan, Rt Hon BruceSmith, C. (Isl'ton & F'bury)
    Morgan, RhodriSmith, Cyril (Rochdale)
    Morley, ElliottSmith, Rt Hon J. (Monk'ds E)
    Morris, Rt Hon A (W'shawe)Soley, Clive
    Mowlam, Mrs MarjorieSpearing, Nigel
    Mullin, ChrisSteinberg, Gerald
    Murphy, PaulStott, Roger
    Nellist, DaveStrang, Gavin
    Oakes, Rt Hon GordonStraw, Jack
    Paisley, Rev IanTaylor, Mrs Ann (Dewsbury)
    Parry, RobertTaylor, Matthew (Truro)
    Patchett, TerryThomas, Dafydd Elis
    Pendry, TomVaz, Keith
    Pike, PeterWallace, James
    Powell, Ray (Ogmore)Walley, Ms Joan
    Prescott, JohnWareing, Robert N.
    Primarolo, Ms DawnWelsh, Andrew (Angus E)
    Quin, Ms JoyceWelsh, Michael (Doncaster N)
    Radice, GilesWigley, Dafydd
    Richardson, Ms JoWilliams, Rt Hon A. J.
    Roberts, Allan (Bootle)Williams, Alan W. (Carm'then)
    Robertson, GeorgeWilson, Brian
    Rooker, JeffWinnick, David
    Ross, Ernie (Dundee W)Wise, Mrs Audrey
    Ross, William (Londonderry E)Worthington, Anthony
    Ruddock, Ms Joan
    Salmond, AlexTellers for the Noes:
    Sedgemore, BrianMr. Frank Cook and
    Skinner, DennisMr. Alun Michael.

    Question accordingly agreed to.