Skip to main content

Conditions Attaching To The Possession Ofself-Loading Rifles

Volume 134: debated on Monday 23 May 1988

The text on this page has been created from Hansard archive content, it may contain typographical errors.

'No firearm certificate shall authorise a person to possess, purchase or acquire a self-loading or pump-action rifle to which section 5(2) (ab) of the principal Act applies unless that person—

  • (a) has held a firearms certificate for at least three years, and
  • (b) has been a full member of a rifle club for at least three years, and
  • (c) is a member of a club which is affiliated to the National Rifle Association or the United Kingdom Practical Shooting Association and which has been approved by the Secretary of State as a club suitable for target shooting with self-loading rifles, and has satisfactorily completed a course of service rifle or practical rifle shooting approved by either of these Associations, or
  • (d) has a reason to possess such a gun because of disability or participation in vermin control or deer-culling.'.—[Sir Hector Monro]
  • Brought up, and read the First time.

    Question put, That the clause be read a Second time:-

    The House divided: Ayes 26, Noes 217.

    Division No. 319]

    [1.5 am

    AYES

    Barnes, Harry (Derbyshire NE)Monro, Sir Hector
    Beith, A. J.Moonie, Dr Lewis
    Bellingham, HenryRoss, William (Londonderry E)
    Bonsor, Sir NicholasSkinner, Dennis
    Bruce, Malcolm (Gordon)Walker, Bill (T'side North)
    Buchanan-Smith, Rt Hon AlickWall, Pat
    Campbell, Menzies (Fife NE)Wallace, James
    Colvin, MichaelWelsh, Andrew (Angus E)
    Cook, Frank (Stockton N)Whitney, Ray
    Cryer, BobWinterton, Mrs Ann
    Dixon, DonWinterton, Nicholas
    Jones, Martyn (Clwyd S W)
    McAllion, JohnTellers for the Ayes:
    Maxwell-Hyslop, RobinMr. Jerry Wiggins and Mr. Paul Marland.
    Molyneaux, Rt Hon James

    NOES

    Alexander, RichardArnold, Tom (Hazel Grove)
    Alison, Rt Hon MichaelAshby, David
    Allason, RupertAtkinson, David
    Amess, DavidBaker, Nicholas (Dorset N)
    Amos, AlanBaldry, Tony
    Arbuthnot, JamesBatiste, Spencer
    Arnold, Jacques (Gravesham)Beaumont-Dark, Anthony

    Bennett, Nicholas (Pembroke)Hawkins, Christopher
    Bevan, David GilroyHayes, Jerry
    Biffen, Rt Hon JohnHeathcoat-Amory, David
    Blackburn, Dr John G.Heddle, John
    Blaker, Rt Hon Sir PeterHicks, Mrs Maureen (Wolv' NE)
    Boswell, TimHind, Kenneth
    Bottomley, Mrs VirginiaHogg, Hon Douglas (Gr'th'm)
    Bowden, A (Brighton K'pto'n)Howarth, Alan (Strat'd-on-A)
    Bowden, Gerald (Dulwich)Howarth, G. (Cannock & B'wd)
    Bowis, JohnHughes, Robert G. (Harrow W)
    Brandon-Bravo, MartinHunt, David (Wirral W)
    Brazier, JulianHunt, John (Ravensbourne)
    Bright, GrahamHurd, Rt Hon Douglas
    Brittan, Rt Hon LeonIrvine, Michael
    Brooke, Rt Hon PeterJack, Michael
    Brown, Michael (Brigg & Cl't's)Janman, Tim
    Burns, SimonJessel, Toby
    Burt, AlistairJohnson Smith, Sir Geoffrey
    Butcher, JohnJones, Robert B (Herts W)
    Butler, ChrisKing, Roger (B'ham N'thfield)
    Butterfill, JohnKirkhope, Timothy
    Carlisle, John, (Luton N)Knapman, Roger
    Carlisle, Kenneth (Lincoln)Knight, Greg (Derby North)
    Carrington, MatthewKnight, Dame Jill (Edgbaston)
    Cash, WilliamKnowles, Michael
    Channon, Rt Hon PaulLang, Ian
    Chapman, SydneyLatham, Michael
    Chope, ChristopherLawrence, Ivan
    Clark, Hon Alan (Plym'th S'n)Leigh, Edward (Gainsbor'gh)
    Clark, Dr Michael (Rochford)Lennox-Boyd, Hon Mark
    Conway, DerekLightbown, David
    Coombs, Anthony (Wyre F'rest)Lilley, Peter
    Coombs, Simon (Swindon)Lloyd, Peter (Fareham)
    Couchman, JamesLord, Michael
    Cran, JamesMacGregor, Rt Hon John
    Currie, Mrs EdwinaMaclean, David
    Curry, DavidMcLoughlin, Patrick
    Davies, Q. (Stamf'd & Spald'g)McNair-Wilson, M. (Newbury)
    Davis, David (Boothferry)McNair-Wilson, P. (New Forest)
    Day, StephenMalins, Humfrey
    Dorrell, StephenMans, Keith
    Douglas-Hamilton, Lord JamesMarshall, John (Hendon S)
    Dover, DenMartin, David (Portsmouth S)
    Dunn, BobMayhew, Rt Hon Sir Patrick
    Durant, TonyMiller, Hal
    Emery, Sir PeterMills, lain
    Evans, David (Welwyn Hatf'd)Mitchell, Andrew (Gedling)
    Fallon, MichaelMitchell, David (Hants NW)
    Farr, Sir JohnMoate, Roger
    Fenner, Dame PeggyMorris, M (N'hampton S)
    Field, Barry (Isle of Wight)Morrison, Hon Sir Charles
    Fookes, Miss JanetMoss, Malcolm
    Forman, NigelNelson, Anthony
    Forsyth, Michael (Stirling)Neubert, Michael
    Forth, EricNewton, Rt Hon Tony
    Franks, CecilNicholson, David (Taunton)
    Freeman, RogerOppenheim, Phillip
    French, DouglasPage, Richard
    Gale, RogerPaice, James
    Gill, ChristopherPatnick, Irvine
    Goodhart, Sir PhilipPawsey, James
    Goodlad, AlastairPeacock, Mrs Elizabeth
    Goodson-Wickes, Dr CharlesPorter, David (Waveney)
    Gorman, Mrs TeresaPortillo, Michael
    Gorst, JohnPowell, William (Corby)
    Gow, IanRaffan, Keith
    Gower, Sir RaymondRaison, Rt Hon Timothy
    Greenway, Harry (Ealing N)Redwood, John
    Greenway, John (Ryedale)Renton, Tim
    Gregory, ConalRhodes James, Robert
    Griffiths, Sir Eldon (Bury St E')Riddick, Graham
    Grist, IanRoberts, Wyn (Conwy)
    Ground, PatrickRoe, Mrs Marion
    Gummer, Rt Hon John SelwynRossi, Sir Hugh
    Hamilton, Hon Archie (Epsom)Rumbold, Mrs Angela
    Hamilton, Neil (Tatton)Ryder, Richard
    Hanley, JeremySackville, Hon Tom
    Hargreaves, A. (B'ham H'll Gr')Sainsbury, Hon Tim
    Hargreaves, Ken (Hyndburn)Sayeed, Jonathan
    Harris, DavidShaw, David (Dover)

    Shaw, Sir Giles (Pudsey)Townsend, Cyril D. (B'heath)
    Shaw, Sir Michael (Scarb')Tracey, Richard
    Shelton, William (Streatham)Tredinnick, David
    Shephard, Mrs G. (Norfolk SW)Trotter, Neville
    Shepherd, Colin (Hereford)Twinn, Dr Ian
    Skeet, Sir TrevorVaughan, Sir Gerard
    Smith, Sir Dudley (Warwick)Waddington, Rt Hon David
    Soames, Hon NicholasWalden, George
    Speed, KeithWard, John
    Speller, TonyWardle, Charles (Bexhill)
    Spicer, Sir Jim (Dorset W)Watts, John
    Spicer, Michael (S Worcs)Wells, Bowen
    Squire, RobinWheeler, John
    Stanbrook, IvorWiddecombe, Ann
    Stern, MichaelWilkinson, John
    Stevens, LewisWilshire, David
    Stewart, Andy (Sherwood)Wolfson, Mark
    Sumberg, DavidWood, Timothy
    Summerson, HugoYeo, Tim
    Tapsell, Sir PeterYoung, Sir George (Acton)
    Taylor, Ian (Esher)
    Thompson, Patrick (Norwich N)Tellers for the Noes:
    Thorne, NeilMr. Robert Boscawen and
    Thurnham, PeterMr. Tristan Garel-Jones.

    Question accordingly negatived.

    Does the hon. Member for Newbury (Mr. McNair-Wilson) wish to press new clause 6?