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Volume 176: debated on Wednesday 18 July 1990

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Lords amendment: In page 9, line 6, leave out "Class XII" and insert "Part 11".— [Mr.Michael Brown.]

Motion made, and Question put, That this House doth agree with the Lords in the said amendment:—

The House divided: Ayes 172, Noes 150.

Division No. 304]

[9.28 pm

AYES

Arbuthnot, JamesHarris, David
Arnold, Jacques (Gravesham)Hayhoe, Rt Hon Sir Barney
Atkinson, DavidHayward, Robert
Beaumont-Dark, AnthonyHeathcoat-Amory, David
Bellingham, HenryHind, Kenneth
Bendall, VivianHolt, Richard
Bennett, Nicholas (Pembroke)Hordern, Sir Peter
Benyon, W.Howarth, Alan (Strat'd-on-A)
Blackburn, Dr John G.Howell, Ralph (North Norfolk)
Blaker, Rt Hon Sir PeterHughes, Robert G. (Harrow W)
Body, Sir RichardHunt, David (Wirral W)
Bonsor, Sir NicholasHunter, Andrew
Boswell, TimIrvine, Michael
Bottomley, PeterIrving, Sir Charles
Bowden, A (Brighton K'pto'n)Janman, Tim
Bowden, Gerald (Dulwich)Jones, Gwilym (Cardiff N)
Braine, Rt Hon Sir BernardJones, Robert B (Herts W)
Brazier, JulianKellett-Bowman, Dame Elaine
Bright, GrahamKey, Robert
Brown, Michael (Brigg & CI't's)King, Roger (B'ham N'thfield)
Browne, John (Winchester)King, Rt Hon Tom (Bridgwater)
Bruce, Ian (Dorset South)Knapman, Roger
Budgen, NicholasKnox, David
Burns, SimonLang, Ian
Butcher, JohnLennox-Boyd, Hon Mark
Butler, ChrisLightbown, David
Butterfill, JohnLilley, Peter
Carlisle, Kenneth (Lincoln)Lloyd, Sir Ian (Havant)
Carrington, MatthewLuce, Rt Hon Richard
Carttiss, MichaelMaclean, David
Chapman, SydneyMans, Keith
Churchill, MrMaples, John
Clark, Dr Michael (Rochford)Marlow, Tony
Clark, Sir W. (Croydon S)Marshall, John (Hendon S)
Colvin, MichaelMawhinney, Dr Brian
Conway, DerekMaxwell-Hyslop, Robin
Coombs, Simon (Swindon)Mayhew, Rt Hon Sir Patrick
Cran, JamesMiller, Sir Hal
Currie, Mrs EdwinaMiscampbell, Norman
Davis, David (Boothferry)Moate, Roger
Devlin, TimMoore, Rt Hon John
Dover, DenMoss, Malcolm
Dunn, BobMoynihan, Hon Colin
Durant, TonyNeale, Gerrard
Evans, David (Welwyn Hatf'd)Newton, Rt Hon Tony
Fallon, MichaelNicholls, Patrick
Fenner, Dame PeggyNicholson, David (Taunton)
Field, Barry (Isle of Wight)Nicholson, Emma (Devon West)
Fishburn, John DudleyNorris, Steve
Fookes, Dame JanetOnslow, Rt Hon Cranley
Forman, NigelOwen, Rt Hon Dr David
Forsyth, Michael (Stirling)Paice, James
Franks, CecilPatnick, Irvine
Freeman, RogerPatten, Rt Hon Chris (Bath)
Gale, RogerPeacock, Mrs Elizabeth
Gardiner, GeorgePorter, David (Waveney)
Garel-Jones, TristanPortillo, Michael
Gill, ChristopherPowell, William (Corby)
Glyn, Dr Sir AlanPrice, Sir David
Goodhart, Sir PhilipRedwood, John
Goodson-Wickes, Dr CharlesRenton, Rt Hon Tim
Gorman, Mrs TeresaRhodes James, Robert
Gow, IanRoberts, Sir Wyn (Conwy)
Grant, Sir Anthony (CambsSW)Roe, Mrs Marion
Greenway, Harry (Ealing N)Sackville, Hon Tom
Gregory, ConalSayeed, Jonathan
Griffiths, Peter (Portsmouth N)Scott, Rt Hon Nicholas
Grist, IanShaw, David (Dover)
Hague, WilliamShaw, Sir Giles (Pudsey)
Hamilton, Neil (Tatton)Shaw, Sir Michael (Scarb')
Hanley, JeremyShephard, Mrs G. (Norfolk SW)
Hannam, JohnShersby, Michael
Hargreaves, Ken (Hyndburn)Sims, Roger

Soames, Hon NicholasWalker, Bill (T'side North)
Spicer, Sir Jim (Dorset W)Ward, John
Spicer, Michael (S Worcs)Wardle, Charles (Bexhill)
Squire, RobinWatts, John
Stanley, Rt Hon Sir JohnWheeler, Sir John
Stewart, Allan (Eastwood)Widdecombe, Ann
Stradling Thomas, Sir JohnWilshire, David
Sumberg, DavidWinterton, Mrs Ann
Taylor, John M (Solihull)Winterton, Nicholas
Thompson, D. (Calder Valley)Wolfson, Mark
Thompson, Patrick (Norwich N)Wood, Timothy
Thorne, Neil
Thurnham, Peter

Tellers for the Ayes:

Tracey, Richard

Mr. Toby Jessell and

Twinn, Dr Ian

Mr. James Hill.

NOES

Alexander, RichardGodman, Dr Norman A.
Allen, GrahamGolding, Mrs Llin
Alton, DavidGordon, Mildred
Archer, Rt Hon PeterGriffiths, Win (Bridgend)
Armstrong, HilaryGrocott, Bruce
Ashton, JoeHardy, Peter
Barnes, Harry (Derbyshire NE)Harman, Ms Harriet
Barron, KevinHaynes, Frank
Beckett, MargaretHeal, Mrs Sylvia
Beggs, RoyHenderson, Doug
Beith, A. J.Hinchliffe, David
Bell, StuartHood, Jimmy
Benn, Rt Hon TonyHowarth, George (Knowsley N)
Bennett, A. F. (D'nt'n & R'dish)Howells, Geraint
Bermingham, GeraldHowells, Dr. Kim (Pontypridd)
Blair, TonyHoyle, Doug
Blunkett, DavidHughes, John (Coventry NE)
Bradley, KeithHughes, Roy (Newport E)
Brandon-Bravo, MartinHughes, Simon (Southwark)
Bray, Dr JeremyJones, Barry (Alyn & Deeside)
Buckley, George J.Jones, Ieuan (Ynys Môn)
Caborn, RichardJones, Martyn (Clwyd S W)
Callaghan, JimKilfedder, James
Campbell, Menzies (Fife NE)Lambie, David
Campbell, Ron (Blyth Valley)Leadbitter, Ted
Campbell-Savours, D. N.Leighton, Ron
Canavan, DennisLewis, Terry
Carr, MichaelLitherland, Robert
Clark, Dr David (S Shields)Livingstone, Ken
Clarke, Tom (Monklands W)Lloyd, Tony (Stretford)
Clay, BobLofthouse, Geoffrey
Clelland, DavidMcAvoy, Thomas
Clwyd, Mrs AnnMcCartney, Ian
Coleman, DonaldMcFall, John
Cook, Frank (Stockton N)McKay, Allen (Barnsley West)
Cousins, JimMcWilliam, John
Cryer, BobMadden, Max
Cummings, JohnMahon, Mrs Alice
Cunliffe, LawrenceMarek, Dr John
Dalyell, TamMarshall, David (Shettleston)
Darling, AlistairMarshall, Jim (Leicester S)
Davies, Ron (Caerphilly)Martin, Michael J. (Springburn)
Davis, Terry (B'ham Hodge H'l)Meale, Alan
Dixon, DonMichael, Alun
Dobson, FrankMichie, Bill (Sheffield Heeley)
Doran, FrankMitchell, Andrew (Gedling)
Douglas, DickMorgan, Rhodri
Dunnachie, JimmyMorley, Elliot
Eadie, AlexanderMorris, M (N'hampton S)
Evans, John (St Helens N)Mullin, Chris
Ewing, Harry (Falkirk E)Murphy, Paul
Fatchett, DerekNellist, Dave
Fields, Terry (L'pool B G'n)Pike, Peter L.
Flannery, MartinPowell, Ray (Ogmore)
Flynn, PaulPrescott, John
Forsythe, Clifford (Antrim S)Primarolo, Dawn
Foster, DerekQuin, Ms Joyce
Foulkes, GeorgeRedmond, Martin
Fraser, JohnReid, Dr John
Fyfe, MariaRichardson, Jo
Garrett, John (Norwich South)Ross, Ernie (Dundee W)
Garrett, Ted (Wallsend)Ross, William (Londonderry E)
George, BruceRowlands, Ted

Ruddock, JoanTaylor, Rt Hon J. D. (S'ford)
Salmond, AlexTurner, Dennis
Shore, Rt Hon PeterWalley, Joan
Short, ClareWareing, Robert N.
Skinner, DennisWatson, Mike (Glasgow, C)
Smith, Andrew (Oxford E)Welsh, Michael (Doncaster N)
Snape, PeterWigley, Dafydd
Spearing, NigelWilliams, Rt Hon Alan
Steel, Rt Hon Sir DavidWise, Mrs Audrey
Steinberg, GerryWorthington, Tony
Stewart, Andy (Sherwood)
Stott, Roger

Tellers for the Noes:

Strang, Gavin

Mr. Terry Patchett and

Straw, Jack

Mr. Eric Illsley.

Question accordingly agreed to.

Lords amendment: In page 9, line 7, leave out "XII in" and insert "A in Part 11 of" and leave out "1" and insert "2".— [Mr. Michael Brown.]

Motion made, and Question put, That this House doth agree with the Lords in the said amendment:—

The House divided: Ayes 203, Noes 157.

Division No. 305]

[9.42 pm

AYES

Alison, Rt Hon MichaelForman, Nigel
Arbuthnot, JamesForsyth, Michael (Stirling)
Arnold, Jacques (Gravesham)Fox, Sir Marcus
Atkinson, DavidFranks, Cecil
Beaumont-Dark, AnthonyFreeman, Roger
Bellingham, HenryGale, Roger
Bendall, VivianGardiner, George
Bennett, Nicholas (Pembroke)Garel-Jones, Tristan
Benyon, W.Gill, Christopher
Blackburn, Dr John G.Goodhart, Sir Philip
Blaker, Rt Hon Sir PeterGoodson-Wickes, Dr Charles
Body, Sir RichardGorman, Mrs Teresa
Bonsor, Sir NicholasGow, Ian
Boswell, TimGrant, Sir Anthony (CambsSW)
Bottomley, PeterGreenway, Harry (Ealing N)
Bottomley, Mrs VirginiaGregory, Conal
Bowden, A (Brighton K'pto'n)Griffiths, Peter (Portsmouth N)
Bowden, Gerald (Dulwich)Grist, Ian
Braine, Rt Hon Sir BernardHague, William
Brazier, JulianHamilton, Neil (Tatton)
Bright, GrahamHanley, Jeremy
Brown, Michael (Brigg & CI't's)Hannam, John
Browne, John (Winchester)Hargreaves, Ken (Hyndburn)
Bruce, Ian (Dorset South)Harris, David
Buchanan-Smith, Rt Hon AlickHaselhurst, Alan
Budgen, NicholasHayes, Jerry
Burns, SimonHayhoe, Rt Hon Sir Barney
Butcher, JohnHayward, Robert
Butler, ChrisHeathcoat-Amory, David
Butterfill, JohnHicks, Robert (Cornwall SE)
Carlisle, Kenneth (Lincoln)Hill, James
Carrington, MatthewHind, Kenneth
Channon, Rt Hon PaulHogg, Hon Douglas (Gr'th'm)
Chapman, SydneyHordern, Sir Peter
Churchill, MrHowarth, Alan (Strat'd-on-A)
Clark, Sir W. (Croydon S)Howarth, G. (Cannock & B'wd)
Colvin, MichaelHowell, Rt Hon David (G'dford)
Conway, DerekHowell, Ralph (North Norfolk)
Coombs, Simon (Swindon)Hughes, Robert G. (Harrow W)
Cran, JamesHunt, David (Wirral W)
Currie, Mrs EdwinaHunter, Andrew
Davis, David (Boothferry)Irvine, Michael
Day, StephenIrving, Sir Charles
Devlin, TimJanman, Tim
Douglas-Hamilton, Lord JamesJohnson Smith, Sir Geoffrey
Dover, DenJones, Gwilym (Cardiff N)
Dunn, BobJones, Robert B (Herts W)
Durant, TonyKellett-Bowman, Dame Elaine
Evans, David (Welwyn Hatf'd)Key, Robert
Favell, TonyKing, Roger (B'ham N'thfield)
Fenner, Dame PeggyKing, Rt Hon Tom (Bridgwater)
Field, Barry (Isle of Wight)Kirkhope, Timothy
Fishburn, John DudleyKnapman, Roger
Fookes, Dame JanetKnight, Greg (Derby North)

Lang, IanRoe, Mrs Marion
Leigh, Edward (Gainsbor'gh)Ryder, Richard
Lennox-Boyd, Hon MarkSackville, Hon Tom
Lightbown, DavidSayeed, Jonathan
Lilley, PeterShaw, David (Dover)
Lloyd, Sir Ian (Havant)Shaw, Sir Giles (Pudsey)
Luce, Rt Hon RichardShaw, Sir Michael (Scarb')
Maclean, DavidShephard, Mrs G. (Norfolk SW)
Madel, DavidShersby, Michael
Mans, KeithSims, Roger
Maples, JohnSoames, Hon Nicholas
Marlow, TonySpicer, Sir Jim (Dorset W)
Marshall, John (Hendon S)Spicer, Michael (S Worcs)
Mates, MichaelSquire, Robin
Mawhinney, Dr BrianStanbrook, Ivor
Maxwell-Hyslop, RobinStanley, Rt Hon Sir John
Mayhew, Rt Hon Sir PatrickSteen, Anthony
Meyer, Sir AnthonyStewart, Allan (Eastwood)
Miller, Sir HalStewart, Rt Hon Ian (Herts N)
Miscampbell, NormanStradling Thomas, Sir John
Moate, RogerSumberg, David
Moore, Rt Hon JohnTapsell, Sir Peter
Morrison, Sir CharlesTaylor, Ian (Esher)
Moss, MalcolmTaylor, John M (Solihull)
Moynihan, Hon ColinTemple-Morris, Peter
Neale, GerrardThompson, D. (Calder Valley)
Nelson, AnthonyThompson, Patrick (Norwich N)
Newton, Rt Hon TonyThorne, Neil
Nicholls, PatrickThornton, Malcolm
Nicholson, David (Taunton)Thurnham, Peter
Nicholson, Emma (Devon West)Tracey, Richard
Norris, SteveTwinn, Dr Ian
Onslow, Rt Hon CranleyWalker, Bill (T'side North)
Owen, Rt Hon Dr DavidWard, John
Paice, JamesWardle, Charles (Bexhill)
Patnick, IrvineWatts, John
Patten, Rt Hon Chris (Bath)Wheeler, Sir John
Patten, Rt Hon JohnWhitney, Ray
Pattie, Rt Hon Sir GeoffreyWiggin, Jerry
Pawsey, JamesWilshire, David
Peacock, Mrs ElizabethWinterton, Mrs Ann
Porter, David (Waveney)Winterton, Nicholas
Portillo, MichaelWolfson, Mark
Powell, William (Corby)Wood, Timothy
Price, Sir DavidWoodcock, Dr. Mike
Raison, Rt Hon TimothyYoung, Sir George (Acton)
Rathbone, Tim
Redwood, John

Tellers for the Ayes:

Renton, Rt Hon Tim

Mr. Toby Jessel and

Rhodes James, Robert

Miss Ann Widdecombe.

Roberts, Sir Wyn (Conwy)

NOES

Alexander, RichardBlunkett, David
Allen, GrahamBradley, Keith
Alton, DavidBrandon-Bravo, Martin
Archer, Rt Hon PeterBray, Dr Jeremy
Armstrong, HilaryBrown, Ron (Edinburgh Leith)
Ashton, JoeBuckley, George J.
Barnes, Harry (Derbyshire NE)Caborn, Richard
Barron, KevinCallaghan, Jim
Beckett, MargaretCampbell, Menzies (Fife NE)
Beggs, RoyCampbell, Ron (Blyth Valley)
Beith, A. J.Campbell-Savours, D. N.
Bell, StuartCanavan, Dennis
Benn, Rt Hon TonyCarr, Michael
Bennett, A. F. (D'nt'n & R'dish)Clark, Dr David (S Shields)
Bermingham, GeraldClarke, Tom (Monklands W)
Blair, TonyClay, Bob

Clelland, DavidLofthouse, Geoffrey
Clwyd, Mrs AnnMcAvoy, Thomas
Coleman, DonaldMcCartney, Ian
Cook, Frank (Stockton N)McFall, John
Cook, Robin (Livingston)McKay, Allen (Barnsley West)
Cousins, JimMcKelvey, William
Crowther, StanMcWilliam, John
Cryer, BobMadden, Max
Cummings, JohnMahon, Mrs Alice
Cunliffe, LawrenceMarek, Dr John
Dalyell, TamMarshall, David (Shettleston)
Darling, AlistairMarshall, Jim (Leicester S)
Davies, Ron (Caerphilly)Martin, Michael J. (Springburn)
Davis, Terry (B'ham Hodge H'l)Meale, Alan
Dixon, DonMichael, Alun
Dobson, FrankMichie, Bill (Sheffield Heeley)
Doran, FrankMitchell, Andrew (Gedling)
Douglas, DickMorgan, Rhodri
Dunnachie, JimmyMorley, Elliot
Eadie, AlexanderMorris, M (N'hampton S)
Eastham, KenMullin, Chris
Evans, John (St Helens N)Murphy, Paul
Ewing, Harry (Falkirk E)Nellist, Dave
Fatchett, DerekPike, Peter L.
Fields, Terry (L'pool B G'n)Powell, Ray (Ogmore)
Flannery, MartinPrescott, John
Flynn, PaulPrimarolo, Dawn
Forsythe, Clifford (Antrim S)Quin, Ms Joyce
Foster, DerekRedmond, Martin
Foulkes, GeorgeReid, Dr John
Fraser, JohnRichardson, Jo
Fyfe, MariaRoss, Ernie (Dundee W)
Galloway, GeorgeRoss, William (Londonderry E)
Garrett, John (Norwich South)Rowlands, Ted
Garrett, Ted (Wallsend)Ruddock, Joan
George, BruceSalmond, Alex
Godman, Dr Norman A.Shore, Rt Hon Peter
Golding, Mrs LlinShort, Clare
Gordon, MildredSkinner, Dennis
Griffiths, Win (Bridgend)Smith, Andrew (Oxford E)
Grocott, BruceSmith, J. P. (Vale of Glam)
Hardy, PeterSpearing, Nigel
Harman, Ms HarrietSteel, Rt Hon Sir David
Haynes, FrankSteinberg, Gerry
Heal, Mrs SylviaStewart, Andy (Sherwood)
Hinchliffe, DavidStott, Roger
Hood, JimmyStrang, Gavin
Howarth, George (Knowsley N)Straw, Jack
Howells, GeraintTaylor, Mrs Ann (Dewsbury)
Howells, Dr. Kim (Pontypridd)Turner, Dennis
Hoyle, DougWalley, Joan
Hughes, John (Coventry NE)Wardell, Gareth (Gower)
Hughes, Roy (Newport E)Wareing, Robert N.
Hughes, Simon (Southwark)Watson, Mike (Glasgow, C)
Jones, Barry (Alyn & Deeside)Welsh, Michael (Doncaster N)
Jones, Ieuan (Ynys Môn)Wigley, Dafydd
Jones, Martyn (Clwyd S W)Williams, Rt Hon Alan
Kilfedder, JamesWilliams, Alan W. (Carm'then)
Lambie, DavidWise, Mrs Audrey
Lamond, JamesWorthington, Tony
Leadbitter, Ted
Lewis, Terry

Tellers for the Noes:

Litherland, Robert

Mr. Terry Patchett and

Livingstone, Ken

Mr. Eric Illsley.

Lloyd, Tony (Stretford)

Question accordingly agreed to.

Subsequent Lords amendments agreed to.