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Taking Non-Intimate Samples Without Consent

Volume 405: debated on Monday 19 May 2003

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"(1) Section 63 of the 1984 Act (other samples) is amended as follows.

(2) After subsection (2) (consent to be given in writing) there is inserted—

"(2A) A non-intimate sample may be taken from a person without the appropriate consent if two conditions are satisfied.

(2B) The first is that the person is in police detention in consequence of his arrest for a recordable offence.

(2C) The second is that—

  • (a) he has not had a non-intimate sample of the same type and from the same part of the body taken in the course of the investigation of the offence by the police, or
  • (b) he has had such a sample taken but it proved insufficient."
  • (3) In subsection (3)(a) (taking of samples without appropriate consent) the words "is in police detention or" are omitted.

    (4) In subsection (3A) (taking of samples without appropriate consent after charge) for "(whether or not he falls within subsection (3)(a) above)" there is substituted "(whether or not he is in police detention or held in custody by the police on the authority of a court)".

    (5) In subsection (8A) (reasons for taking of samples without consent) for "subsection (3A)" there is substituted "subsection (2A), (3A)".".

    [Mr. Bob Ainsworth.]

    Brought up, and read the First time.

    Motion made, and Question put, That the clause be read a Second time:—

    The House divided: Ayes 323, Noes 178.

    Division No. 204]

    [5:02 pm

    AYES

    Abbott, Ms DianeClark, Paul (Gillingham)
    Ainger, NickClarke, rh Charles (Norwich S)
    Ainsworth, Bob (Cov'try NE)Clarke, rh Tom (Coatbridge & Chryston)
    Alexander, Douglas
    Allen, GrahamClarke, Tony (Northampton S)
    Anderson, rh Donald (Swansea E)Clelland, David
    Anderson, Janet (Rossendale & Darwen)Clwyd, Ann (Cynon V)
    Coaker, Vernon
    Armstrong, rh Ms HilaryCoffey, Ms Ann
    Atherton, Ms CandyCohen, Harry
    Austin, JohnColeman, Iain
    Bailey, AdrianColman, Tony
    Baird, VeraCook, Frank (Stockton N)
    Banks, TonyCook, rh Robin (Livingston)
    Barnes, HarryCooper, Yvette
    Battle, JohnCorbyn, Jeremy
    Bayley, HughCorston, Jean
    Beard, NigelCousins, Jim
    Beckett, rh MargaretCox, Tom (Tooting)
    Begg, Miss AnneCrausby, David
    Bell, StuartCruddas, Jon
    Benn, HilaryCryer, John (Hornchurch)
    Benton, Joe (Bootle)Cunningham, rh Dr. Jack (Copeland)
    Berry, Roger
    Blackman, LizCunningham, Jim (Coventry S)
    Blears, Ms HazelCunningham, Tony (Workington)
    Blizzard, BobCurtis-Thomas, Mrs Claire
    Blunkett, rh DavidDalyell, Tam
    Boateng, rh PaulDavey, Valerie (Bristol W)
    Bradley, rh Keith (Withington)Davidson, Ian
    Bradshaw, BenDavies, rh Denzil (Llanelli)
    Brennan, KevinDawson, Hilton
    Brown, rh Nicholas (Newcastle E Wallsend)Dean, Mrs Janet
    Denham, rh John
    Brown, Russell (Dumfries)Dhanda, Parmjit
    Browne, DesmondDismore, Andrew
    Bryant, ChrisDobbin, Jim (Heywood)
    Buck, Ms KarenDonohoe, Brian H.
    Burden, RichardDoran, Frank
    Burgon, ColinDowd, Jim (Lewisham W)
    Burnham, AndyDrew, David (Stroud)
    Byers, rh StephenEagle, Angela (Wallasey)
    Caborn, rh RichardEagle, Maria (L'pool Garston)
    Cairns, DavidEdwards, Huw
    Campbell, Alan (Tynemouth)Efford, Clive
    Campbell, Mrs Anne (C'bridge)Ellman, Mrs Louise
    Campbell, Ronnie (Blyth V)Etherington, Bill
    Caplin, IvorFarrelly, Paul
    Casale, RogerField, rh Frank (Birkenhead)
    Cawsey, Ian (Brigg)Fisher, Mark
    Challen, ColinFitzpatrick, Jim
    Chapman, Ben (Wirral S)Flynn, Paul (Newport W)
    Chaytor, DavidFollett, Barbara
    Clapham, MichaelFoster, rh Derek
    Clark, Mrs Helen (Peterborough)Foster, Michael (Worcester)
    Clark, Dr. Lynda (Edinburgh Pentlands)Foster, Michael Jabez (Hastings & Rye)

    Foulkes, rh GeorgeLaxton, Bob (Derby N)
    Gapes, Mike (Ilford S)Lazarowicz, Mark
    Gardiner, BarryLevitt, Tom (High Peak)
    Gerrard, NeilLewis, Terry (Worsley)
    Gibson, Dr. IanLinton, Martin
    Gilroy, LindaLove, Andrew
    Godsiff, RogerLucas, Ian (Wrexham)
    Goggins, PaulMcAvoy, Thomas
    Griffiths, Jane (Reading E)McCabe, Stephen
    Griffiths, Nigel (Edinburgh S)McCafferty, Chris
    Griffiths, Win (Bridgend)McCartney, rh Ian
    Grogan, JohnMcDonagh, Siobhain
    Hain, rh PeterMcDonnell, John
    Hall, Mike (Weaver Vale)MacDougall, John
    Hall, Patrick (Bedford)McGuire, Mrs Anne
    Hamilton, David (Midlothian)McIsaac, Shona
    Hamilton, Fabian (Leeds NE)McKechin, Ann
    Hanson, DavidMackinlay, Andrew
    Harman, rh Ms HarrietMcNamara, Kevin
    Harris, Tom (Glasgow Cathcart)McNulty, Tony
    Havard, Dai (Merthyr Tydfil & Rhymney)McWilliam, John
    Mahon, Mrs Alice
    Healey, JohnMallaber, Judy
    Henderson, Ivan (Harwich)Mandelson, rh Peter
    Hendrick, MarkMann, John (Bassetlaw)
    Hepburn, StephenMarris, Rob (Wolverh'ton SW)
    Heppell, JohnMarsden, Gordon (Blackpool S)
    Hesford, StephenMarshall, Jim (Leicester S)
    Hewitt, rh Ms PatriciaMarshall-Andrews, Robert
    Heyes, DavidMartlew, Eric
    Hill, Keith (Streatham)Meacher, rh Michael
    Hinchliffe, DavidMerron, Gillian
    Hodge, MargaretMichael, rh Alun
    Hoey, Kate (Vauxhall)Miliband, David
    Hood, Jimmy (Clydesdale)Miller, Andrew
    Hope, Phil (Corby)Moffatt, Laura
    Hopkins, KelvinMole, Chris
    Howarth, rh Alan (Newport E)Moonie, Dr. Lewis
    Howarth, George (Knowsley N & Sefton E)Morley, Elliot
    Mullin, Chris
    Howells, Dr. KimMunn, Ms Meg
    Hughes, Beverley (Stretford & Urmston)Murphy, Denis (Wansbeck)
    Murphy, rh Paul (Torfaen)
    Hughes, Kevin (Doncaster N)Naysmith, Dr. Doug
    Humble, Mrs JoanNorris, Dan (Wansdyke)
    Hurst, Alan (Braintree)O'Brien, Bill (Normanton)
    Hutton, rh JohnOlner, Bill
    Iddon, Dr. BrianOrgan, Diana
    Ingram, rh AdamOsborne, Sandra (Ayr)
    Irranca-Davies, HuwPalmer, Dr. Nick
    Jackson, Glenda (Hampstead & Highgate)Pearson, Ian
    Perham, Linda
    Jackson, Helen (Hillsborough)Picking, Anne
    Jamieson, DavidPickthall, Colin
    Jenkins, BrianPike, Peter (Burnley)
    Johnson, Alan (Hull W)Plaskitt, James
    Jones, Helen (Warrington N)Pollard, Kerry
    Jones, Jon Owen (Cardiff C)Pond, Chris (Gravesham)
    Jones, Kevan (N Durham)Pope, Greg (Hyndburn)
    Jowell, rh TessaPound, Stephen
    Joyce, Eric (Falkirk W)Prentice, Ms Bridget (Lewisham E)
    Kaufman, rh Gerald
    Keeble, Ms SallyPrimarolo, rh Dawn
    Keen, Ann (Brentford)Purnell, James
    Kemp, FraserQuin, rh Joyce
    Kennedy, Jane (Wavertree)Quinn, Lawrie
    Khabra, Piara S.Rammell, Bill
    Kidney, DavidRapson, Syd (Portsmouth N)
    Kilfoyle, PeterRaynsford, rh Nick
    King, Andy (Rugby)Reed, Andy (Loughborough)
    King, Ms Oona (Bethnal Green & Bow)Robinson, Geoffrey (Coventry NW)
    Knight, Jim (S Dorset)Roche, Mrs Barbara
    Kumar, Dr. AshokRooney, Terry
    Ladyman, Dr. StephenRoss, Ernie (Dundee W)
    Lammy, DavidRoy, Frank (Motherwell)

    Ruane, ChrisTaylor, David (NW Leics)
    Ruddock, JoanThomas, Gareth (Clwyd W)
    Ryan, Joan (Enfield N)Thomas, Gareth (Harrow W)
    Salter, MartinTimms, Stephen
    Sarwar, MohammadTipping, Paddy
    Savidge, MalcolmTodd, Mark (S Derbyshire)
    Sawford, PhilTouhig, Don (Islwyn)
    Sedgemore, BrianTrickett, Jon
    Shaw, JonathanTruswell, Paul
    Sheerman, BarryTurner, Dennis (Wolverh'ton SE)
    Sheridan, JimTurner, Dr. Desmond (Brighton Kemptown)
    Shipley, Ms Debra
    Simon, Siôn (B'ham Erdington)Turner, Neil (Wigan)
    Simpson, Alan (Nottingham S)Twigg, Derek (Halton)
    Singh, MarshaTwigg, Stephen (Enfield)
    Smith, rh Andrew (Oxford E)Tynan, Bill (Hamilton S)
    Smith, Angela (Basildon)Vis, Dr. Rudi
    Smith, Geraldine (Morecambe & Lunesdale)Wallely, Ms Joan
    Wareing, Robert N.
    Smith, Jacqui (Redditch)Watson, Tom (W Bromwich E)
    Smith, John (Glamorgan)White, Brian
    Smith, Llew (Blaenau Gwent)Whitehead, Dr. Alan
    Soley, CliveWicks, Malcolm
    Southworth, HelenWilliams, rh Alan (Swansea W)
    Spellar, rh JohnWills, Michael
    Squire, RachelWilson, Brian
    Starkey, Dr. PhyllisWinnick, David
    Steinberg, GerryWinterton, Ms Rosie (Doncaster C)
    Stewart, David (Inverness E & Lochaber)Woodward, Shaun
    Stinchcombe, PaulWoolas, Phil
    Stoate, Dr. HowardWorthington, Tony
    Strang, rh Dr. GavinWright, Anthony D. (Gt Yarmouth)
    Stringer, GrahamWright, David (Telford)
    Stuart, Ms GiselaWright, Tony (Cannock)
    Sutcliffe, Gerry
    Tami, Mark (Alyn)

    Tellers for the Ayes:

    Taylor, rh Ann (Dewsbury)

    Charlotte Atkins and

    Taylor, Dari (Stockton S)

    Mr. Jim Murphy

    NOES

    Ainsworth, Peter (E Surrey)Cameron, David
    Allan, RichardCarmichael, Alistair
    Amess, DavidCash, William
    Ancram, rh MichaelChapman, Sir Sydney (Chipping Barnet)
    Arbuthnot, rh James
    Atkinson, Peter (Hexham)Chidgey, David
    Bacon, RichardChope, Christopher
    Baldry, TonyClappison, James
    Barker, GregoryClarke, rh Kenneth (Rushcliffe)
    Baron, John (Billericay)Clifton-Brown, Geoffrey
    Barrett, JohnConway, Derek
    Beith, rh A. J.Cormack, Sir Patrick
    Bellingham, HenryCotter, Brian
    Bercow, JohnDavey, Edward (Kingston)
    Beresford, Sir PaulDavies, Quentin (Grantham & Stamford)
    Blunt, Crispin
    Boswell, TimDavis, rh David (Haltemprice & Howden)
    Bottomley, Peter (Worthing W)
    Bottomley, rh Virginia (SW Surrey)Djanogly, Jonathan
    Doughty, Sue
    Brady, GrahamDuncan Smith, rh Iain
    Brake, Tom (Carshalton)Evans, Nigel
    Brazier, JulianFabricant, Michael
    Brooke, Mrs Annette L.Fallon, Michael
    Browning, Mrs AngelaField, Mark (Cities of London & Westminster)
    Bruce, Malcolm
    Burnett, JohnFlight, Howard
    Burns, SimonFlook, Adrian
    Burnside, DavidForth, rh Eric
    Burstow, PaulFrancois, Mark
    Burt, AlistairGale, Roger (N Thanet)
    Butterfill, JohnGibb, Nick (Bognor Regis)
    Cable, Dr. VincentGidley, Sandra
    Calton, Mrs PatsyGillan, Mrs Cheryl

    Goodman, PaulPaterson, Owen
    Gray, James (N Wilts)Pickles, Eric
    Green, Damian (Ashford)Prisk, Mark (Hertford)
    Green, Matthew (Ludlow)Pugh, Dr. John
    Greenway, JohnRandall, John
    Grieve, DominicRedwood, rh John
    Gummer, rh JohnReid, Alan (Argyll & Bute)
    Hammond, PhilipRendel, David
    Hancock, MikeRobathan, Andrew
    Harris, Dr. Evan (Oxford W & Abingdon)Robertson, Laurence (Tewk'b'ry)
    Roe, Mrs Marion
    Harvey, NickRosindell, Andrew
    Hawkins, NickRussell, Bob (Colchester)
    Hayes, John (S Holland)Sanders, Adrian
    Heald, OliverSayeed, Jonathan
    Heath, DavidSelous, Andrew
    Hendry, CharlesShephard, rh Mrs Gillian
    Hermon, LadyShepherd, Richard
    Hoban, Mark (Fareham)Simmonds, Mark
    Hogg, rh DouglasSimpson, Keith (M-Norfolk)
    Holmes, PaulSmith, Sir Robert (W Ab'd'ns & Kincardine)
    Horam, John (Orpington)
    Howarth, Gerald (Aldershot)Smyth, Rev. Martin (Belfast S)
    Hughes, Simon (Southwark N)Spicer, Sir Michael
    Hunter, AndrewSpink, Bob (Castle Point)
    Jack, rh MichaelSpring, Richard
    Jackson, Robert (Wantage)Stanley, rh Sir John
    Jenkin, BernardStreeter, Gary
    Keetch, PaulStunell, Andrew
    Key, Robert (Salisbury)Swire, Hugo (E Devon)
    Laing, Mrs EleanorSyms, Robert
    Lait, Mrs JacquiTapsell, Sir Peter
    Lamb, NormanTaylor, Ian (Esher)
    Lansley, AndrewTaylor, John (Solihull)
    Laws, David (Yeovil)Taylor, Matthew (Truro)
    Leigh, EdwardThomas, Simon (Ceredigion)
    Letwin, rh OliverTonge, Dr. Jenny
    Lewis, Dr. Julian (New Forest E)Tredinnick, David
    Liddell-Grainger, IanTurner, Andrew (Isle of Wight)
    Lidington, DavidTyler, Paul (N Cornwall)
    Lilley, rh PeterTyrie, Andrew
    Llwyd, ElfynViggers, Peter
    Loughton, TimWalter, Robert
    Luff, Peter (M-Worcs)Waterson, Nigel
    McIntosh, Miss AnneWatkinson, Angela
    Mackay, rh AndrewWebb, Steve (Northavon)
    Maclean, rh DavidWhittingdale, John
    McLoughlin, PatrickWiddecombe, rh Miss Ann
    Malins, HumfreyWiggin, Bill
    Maples, JohnWilkinson, John
    Mawhinney, rh Sir BrianWilletts, David
    May, Mrs TheresaWillis, Phil
    Mercer, PatrickWilshire, David
    Moss, MalcolmWinterton, Sir Nicholas (Macclesfield)
    Murrison, Dr. Andrew
    Oaten, Mark (Winchester)Yeo, Tim (S Suffolk)
    O'Brien, Stephen (Eddisbury)Young, rh Sir George
    Öpik, Lembit
    Ottaway, Richard

    Tellers for the Noes:

    Page, Richard

    Mr. Desmond Swayne and

    Paice, James

    Hugh Robertson

    Question accordingly agreed to.

    Clause read a Second time, and added to the Bill.