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Afghanistan: Peacekeeping Operations

Volume 496: debated on Tuesday 1 September 2009

To ask the Secretary of State for Defence how many rounds have been fired by British forces in each Brigade rotation in Afghanistan since Herrick 6, broken down by type of ammunition used. (232644)

Officials are collating and validating the data needed to answer this question and this is taking longer than anticipated. I will therefore write to the hon. Member when this work is complete and place a copy of my letter in the Library of the House.

To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, with reference to the answer of 3 November 2008, Official Report, column 1518W, how many rounds of (a) 0.338 ammunition of all natures, (b) 12 bore shotgun ammunition, (c) 30 mm armoured fighting vehicle ammunition of all natures, (d) 30 mm attack helicopter ammunition of all natures and (e) 105 mm ammunition of all natures were used in Operation Herrick 7. (268012)

Officials are collating and validating the data needed and this is taking longer than anticipated. I will write to the hon. Member when this work is complete and place a copy of my letter in the Library of the House.

To ask the Secretary of State for Defence how many rounds of (a) 51 mm and (b) 81 mm mortar ammunition of all natures were used in Operation (i) Herrick 4, (ii) Herrick 5, (iii) Herrick 6 and (iv) Herrick 7. (268210)

[holding answer 1 April 2009]: Officials are collating and validating the data needed and this is taking longer than anticipated. I will write to the hon. Member when this work is complete.

Substantive answer from Bob Ainsworth to Adam Holloway:

I am writing to provide you with the information promised in mine and my predecessor’s holding replies to your Parliamentary Questions regarding ammunition expenditure in Afghanistan on 20 April 2009 (Official Report, column 46W); 31 March 2009 (Official Report, column 1034W) and 26 November 2008 (Official Report, column 1518W).

The Ministry of Defence has recently completed a review of the data on ammunition usage required to answer this question, and has revised the manner in which we classify and present data to ensure consistency. The table below shows all ammunition expenditure for UK forces in Afghanistan from the beginning of retained records (August 2006) to the end of Operation HERRICK 9 (October 2008-April 2009), in April of this year.

You will note that, unfortunately, this review has resulted in corrections to the ammunition figures previously issued for the HERRICK 6 (April 2007-October 2007) and HERRICK 7 (October 2007-April 2008) roulements. These figures have been found to be incorrect due inconsistency of tour dates taken, inconsistency of inclusion of training rounds and a failure to include all variations of ammunition in all cases.

Ammunition type

Herrick 4 (13 August 2006-October 2006)1

Herrick 5 (October 2006-April 2007)

Herrick 6 (April 2007-October 2007)

Herrick 7 (October 2007-April 2008)

Herrick 8 (April 2008-October 2008)

Herrick 9 (October 2008-April 2009)

7.62 mm all variants

210,000

520,000

1,300,000

1,380,000

700,000

908,400

5.56 mm all variants

235,000

615,000

1,490,000

1,390,000

1,000,000

1,080,000

0.5 inch all variants

25,000

90,000

200,000

180,000

113,000

196,000

12.7 mm all variants

2,400

350

4,800

21,000

13,000

10,600

9 mm all variants

10,000

69,000

30,000

69,000

71,700

61,400

0.338 inch all variants

200

1,700

5,600

7,300

8,200

12,100

12 bore shotgun all variants

5

45

660

15,100

300

525

105 mm all variants

8,600

4,300

12,100

12,400

5,600

11,200

30 mm armd fighting veh rounds

1,200

5,000

3,600

2,800

745

4,500

30 mm Attack helicopter rounds

29,800

21,000

27,800

15,700

34,400

34,200

1 Accounting records exist only from 13 August 2006—mid Herrick 4.

Notes:

1. All tour dates are taken from the Transfer of Authority from one Brigade to the next.

2. All figures rounded to nearest 10,000, 1,000 or 100.

Ammunition expenditure is shown for the whole of Afghanistan, rather than just Helmand Province as the information is collated centrally for UK forces in Afghanistan. The data include all training rounds used and all variants of each ammunition type. They are collated by each HERRICK roulement, at the end of which the data are finalised for records.

All data shown above are data based on information derived from a number of sources and can only be an estimate, not least because of the difficulties in ensuring a consistent interpretation of the basis for collating statistics in a complex fast-moving multinational operational environment.

I hope that the above information addresses your concerns on this matter.

I will place a copy of this letter in the Library of the House.

To ask the Secretary of State for Defence how many rounds of ammunition have been discharged by British forces in Afghanistan in each rotation since 2006. (251707)

Officials are collating and validating the data needed and this is taking longer than anticipated. I will write to the hon. Member when this work is complete and place a copy of my letter in the Library of the House.

To ask the Secretary of State for Defence how many rounds of ammunition have been discharged in Helmand province by British forces in each roulement since June 2006, broken down by ammunition type. (257687)

I refer the hon. Member to the answer I gave on 11 February 2009, Official Report, column 1993W.

Substantive answer from Bob Ainsworth to Liam Fox:

I am writing to provide you with the information promised in my predecessor's holding reply to your Parliamentary Questions regarding ammunition expenditure in Afghanistan on 11 February 2009, (Official Report, column 1992W), and 26 February 2009, (Official Report, column 1050W).

The Ministry of Defence has recently completed a review of the data on ammunition usage required to answer this question, and has revised the manner in which we classify and present data to ensure consistency. The table below shows all ammunition expenditure for UK forces in Afghanistan from the beginning of retained records (August 2006) to the end of Operation HERRICK 9 (October 2008- April 2009), in April of this year.

You will note that, unfortunately, this review has resulted in corrections to the ammunition figures previously issued for the HERRICK 6 (April 2007 - October 2007) and HERRICK 7 (October 2007 - April 2008) roulements. These figures have been found to be incorrect due inconsistency of tour dates taken, inconsistency of inclusion of training rounds and a failure to include all variations of ammunition in all cases.

Ammunition type

HERRICK 4 (13 August 2006 - October 2006)1

HERRICK 5 (October 2006 - April 2007)

HERRICK 6 (April 2007 -October 2007)

HERRICK 7 (October 2007 - April 2008)

HERRICK 8 (April 2008 - October 2008)

HERRICK 9 (October 2008 - April 2009)

7.62mm all variants

210,000

520,000

1,300,000

1,380,000

700,000

908,400

5.56mm all variants

235,000

615,000

1,490,000

1,390,000

1,000,000

1,080,000

0.5 inch all variants

25,000

90,000

200,000

180,000

113,000

196,000

12.7mm all variants

2,400

350

4,800

21,000

13,000

10,600

9mm all variants

10,000

69,000

30,000

69,000

71,700

61,400

0.338 inch all variants

200

1,700

5,600

7,300

8,200

12,100

12 bore shotgun all variants

5

45

660

15,100

300

525

105mm all variants

8,600

4,300

12,100

12,400

5,600

11,200

30mm armd fighting veh rounds

1,200

5,000

3,600

2,800

745

4,500

30mm Attack helicopter rounds

29,800

21,000

27,800

15,700

34,400

34,200

1 Accounting records exist only from 13 August 2006 - mid HERRICK 4

Notes:

All tour dates are taken from the Transfer of Authority from one Brigade to the next.

All figures rounded to nearest 10,000, 1000 or 100.

Ammunition expenditure is shown for the whole of Afghanistan, rather than just Helmand Province as the information is collated centrally for UK forces in Afghanistan. The data include all training rounds used and all variants of each ammunition type. They are collated by each HERRICK roulement, at the end of which the data are finalised for records.

All data shown above is data based on information derived from a number of sources and can only be an estimate, not least because of the difficulties in ensuring a consistent interpretation of the basis for collating statistics in a complex fast-moving multinational operational environment.

To ask the Secretary of State for Defence what estimate his Department has made of the number of shots fired by UK armed forces in Helmand province since 2006. (273309)

Officials are collating and validating the data needed and this is taking longer than anticipated. I will write to the right hon. Member when this work is complete and place a copy of my letter in the Library of the House.

To ask the Secretary of State for Defence what estimate he has made of the number of shots fired by the armed forces in Helmand province in (a) 2006 and (b) 2007; and how many shots were fired in the latest period for which figures are available. (249208)

Officials are collating and validating the data needed and this is taking longer than anticipated. I will write to the hon. Member when this work is complete and place a copy of my letter in the Library of the House.

To ask the Secretary of State for Defence how many rounds of ammunition were fired by UK armed forces in Afghanistan in 2007-08. (235233)

Officials are collating and validating the data needed to answer this question and this is taking longer than anticipated. I will therefore write to the hon. Members when this work is complete and place a copy of my letter in the Library of the House.

Substantive answer from Bob Ainsworth to Michael Ancram:

I am writing to provide you with the information promised in mine and my predecessor's holding replies to your Parliamentary Questions regarding ammunition expenditure in Afghanistan on 11 February 2009 (Official Report, cols 1992-1993W), 11 May 2009 (Official Report, col 605W) and 26 November 2008 (Official Report, col 1518W).

The Ministry of Defence has recently completed a review of the data on ammunition usage required to answer this question, and has revised the manner in which we classify and present data to ensure consistency. The table below shows all ammunition expenditure for UK forces in Afghanistan from the beginning of retained records (August 2006) to the end of Operation HERRICK 9 (October 2008 - April 2009), in April of this year.

You will note that, unfortunately, this review has resulted in corrections to the ammunition figures previously issued for the HERRICK 6 (April 2007 – October 2007) and HERRICK 7 (October 2007 - April 2008) roulements. These figures have been found to be incorrect due inconsistency of tour dates taken, inconsistency of inclusion of training rounds and a failure to include all variations of ammunition in all cases.

Type

HERRICK 4 (13 August 2006 -October 2006)1

HERRICK 5

(October 2006 -April 2007)

HERRICK 6 (April 2007 -October 2007)

HERRICK 7 (October 2007 - April 2008)

HERRICK 8 (1 April 2008 -October 2008)

HERRICK 9 (October 2008 -April 2009)

7.62mm all variants

210,000

520,000

1,300,000

1,380,000

700,000

908,400

5.56mm all variants

235,000

615,000

1,490,000

1,390,000

1,000,000

1,080,000

0.5 inch all variants

25,000

90,000

200,000

180,000

113,000

196,000

12.7mm all variants

2,400

350

4,800

21,000

13,000

10,600

9mm all variants

10,000

69,000

30,000

69,000

71,700

61,400

0.338 inch all variants

200

1,700

5,600

7,300

8,200

12,100

12 bore shotgun all variants

5

45

660

15,100

300

525

105mm all variants

8,600

4,300

12,100

12,400

5,600

11,200

30mm armd fighting veh rounds

1,200

5,000

3,600

2,800

745

4,500

30mm Attack helicopter rounds

29,800

21,000

27,800

15,700

34,400

34,200

1 Accounting records exist only from 13 August 2006 - mid HERRICK 4

Notes:

All tour dates are taken from the Transfer of Authority from one Brigade to the next.

All figures rounded to nearest 10,000, 1000 or 100.

Ammunition expenditure is shown for the whole of Afghanistan, rather than just Helmand Province as the information is collated centrally for UK forces in Afghanistan. The data include all training rounds used and all variants of each ammunition type. They are collated by each HERRICK roulement, at the end of which the data are finalised for records.

All data shown above are data based on information derived from a number of sources and can only be an estimate, not least because of the difficulties in ensuring a consistent interpretation of the basis for collating statistics in a complex fast-moving multinational operational environment.

I hope that the above information addresses your concerns on this matter.

I will place a copy of this letter in the Library of the House.

To ask the Secretary of State for Defence whether he has received reports of Taliban forces seeking to acquire ground-to-air missiles. (288197)

I am withholding this information as its disclosure would, or would be likely to prejudice the capability, effectiveness or security of the armed forces.

We constantly monitor the threats faced by our personnel in Afghanistan and ensure that we take all possible steps to respond to these threats as they evolve.

To ask the Secretary of State for Defence whether his Department has assessed the potential effectiveness of infrared surveillance capabilities used by the police for deployment for military purposes in Afghanistan. (288691)

The Ministry of Defence (MOD) undertakes a wide-ranging research programme supporting the needs of our troops on current and future operations. As part of continuing successful coalition operations, the MOD is currently discussing infrared surveillance with several parties including the Metropolitan Police Service.

To ask the Secretary of State for Defence pursuant to the answer of 24 June 2009, Official Report, column 899W, on Afghanistan: peacekeeping operations, how many British troops were required to serve in the Regional Command South Headquarters between May 2007 and February 2008. (289094)