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Air-Raid Precautions

Volume 328: debated on Wednesday 10 November 1937

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asked the Minister for the Co-ordination of Defence whether, in considering air—raid precautions, attention has been directed to the greater visibility from the air at night of light-coloured roads compared with dark—coloured roads; and whether he will discuss with other Departments of His Majesty's Government the best methods of darkening the surface of arterial roads in case of emergency?

The point has not been overlooked in connection with the choice of suitable road materials.

We cannot have every question repeated. If hon. Members do not remain quiet, I cannot keep them quiet. [Interruption.]

Attention is paid to foreign affairs but not to the poor folk of this country.

If the hon. Member cannot behave himself, I shall ask him to leave the House.

Then I must name the hon. Member for disregarding the authority of the Chair.

I beg to move, "That Mr. Kirkwood be suspended from the service of the House."

The hon. Member proceeded to withdraw.

Division No. 9.]

AYES.

[3.35 p.m.

Allen, Col. J. Sandeman (B'knhead)Grant-Ferris, R.Nicolson, Hon. H. G.
Anderson, Sir A. Garrett (C. of Ldn.)Grattan-Doyle, Sir N.O'Connor, Sir Terence J.
Anstruther-Gray, W. J.Gretton, Col. Rt. Hon. J.Ormsby-Gore, Rt. Hon. W. C. A.
Assheton, R.Gridley, Sir A. B.Orr-Ewing. I. L.
Astor, Hon. W. W. (Fulham, E.)Grimston, R. V.Patrick, C. M.
Barclay-Harvey, Sir C. M.Gunston, Capt. D. WPeat, C. U.
Baxter, A. BeverleyHannah, I. C.Perkins, W. R. D.
Beaumont, M. W. (Aylesbury)Hannon, Sir P. J. H.Petherick, M.
Belt, Sir A. L.Harris, Sir P. A.Pilkington, R.
Bennett, Sir E. N.Hartington, Marquess ofPonsonby, Col. C. E.
Bernays, R. H.Harvey, T. E. (Eng. Univ's.)Porritt, R. W.
Bird, Sir R. B.Haslam, Sir J. (Bolton)Pownall, Lt.-Col. Sir Assheton
Bossom, A. C.Heilgers, Captain F. F. A.Raikes, H. V. A. M.
Boulton, W. W.Hepburn, P. G. T. BuchanRamsden, Sir E.
Boyce, H. LeslieHerbert, Mater J. A. (Monmouth)Rankin, Sir R.
Bull, B. B.Higgs, W. F.Rathbone, J. R. (Bodmin)
Burgin, Rt. Hon. E. L.Hills, Major Rt. Hon. J. W. (Ripon)Rawson, Sir Cooper
Burton, Col. H. W.Hoare, Rt. Hon. Sir S.Rayner, Major R. H.
Butler, R. A.Hudson, Capt. A. U. M. (Hack., N.)Rickards, G. W. (Skipton)
Campbell, Sir E. T.Hudson, R. S. (Southport)Roberts, W. (Cumberland, N.)
Cartland, J. R. H.Hume, Sir G. H.Ropner, Colonel L.
Cary, R. A.Inskip, Rt. Hon. Sir T. W. H.Rothschild, J. A. de
Cazalet, Thelma (Islington, E.)Keeling, E. H.Royds, Admiral P. M. R.
Chamberlain, Rt. Hn. N. (Edgb't'n)Kerr, Colonel C. I. (Montrose)Ruggles-Brise, Colonel Sir E. A.
Channon, H.Kerr, H. W. (Oldham)Russell, Sir Alexander
Chapman, A. (Rutherglen)Kerr, J. Graham (Scottish Univs.)Russell, S. H. M. (Darwen)
Chorlton, A. E. L.Law, Sir A. J. (High Peak)Salt, E. W.
Clarke, F. E. (Dartford)Lees-Jones, J.Salter, Sir J. Arthur (Oxford U.)
Cobb, Captain E. C. (Preston)Lewis, O.Sandeman, Sir N. S.
Colville, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. D. J.Lindsay, K. M.Savery, Sir Servington
Cook, Sir T. R. A. M. (Norfolk, N.)Lipson, D. L.Selley, H. R.
Cooke, J. D. (Hammersmith, S.)Lloyd, G. W.Shakespeare, G. H.
Courthope, Col. Rt. Hon. Sir G. L.Locker-Lampson, Comdr. O. S.Shaw, Captain W. T. (Forfar)
Cox, H. B. T.Lovat-Fraser, J. A.Shepperson, Sir E. W.
Crookshank, Capt. H. F. C.Lyons, A. M.Shute, Colonel Sir J. J.
Crossley, A. C.Mabane, W. (Huddersfield)Simon, Rt. Hon. Sir J. A.
Crowder, J. F. E.MacAndrew, Colonel Sir C. G.Sinclair, Rt. Hon. Sir A. (C'thn's)
Davies, Major Sir G. F. (Yeovil)MacDonald, Sir Murdoch (Inverness)Smiles, Lieut.-Colonel Sir W. D.
Davison, Sir W. H.Macdonald, Capt. P. (Isle of Wight)Smith, L. W. (Hallam)
Dawson, Sir P.McKie, J. H.Somervell. Sir D. B. (Crewe)
De la Bère, R.Macnamara, Capt. J. R. J.Somerville, A. A. (Windsor)
Denman, Hon. R. D.Macquisten, F. A.Stanley, Rt. Hon. Oliver (W'm 'l'd)
Duggan, H. J.Magnay, T.Stewart, J. Henderson (Fife, E.)
Duncan, J. A. L.Maitland, A.Storey, S.
Dunglass, LordMander, G. le M.Stourton, Major Hon. J. J.
Edmondson, Major Sir J.Margesson, Capt. Rt. Hon. H. D. R.Strauss, H. G. (Norwich)
Elliston, Capt. G. SMarkham, S. F.Taylor, C. S. (Eastbourne)
Emmett, C. E. G. C.Maxwell, Hon. S. A.Thomson, Sir J. D. W.
Evans, E. (Univ. of Wales)Mayhew, Lt.-Col. J.Titchfield, Marquess of
Everard, W. L.Mills, Sir F. (Leyton, E.)Tree, A. R. L. F.
Findlay, Sir E.Moore-Brabazon, Lt.-Col. J. T. C.Turton, R. H.
Fleming, E. L.Moreing, A. C.Wakefield, W. W.
Furness, S. N.Morris-Jones, Sir HenryWallace, Capt. Rt. Hon. Euan
Ganzoni, Sir J.Muirhead, Lt.-Col. A. J.Ward, Lieut.—Col. Sir A. L. (Hull)
George, Major G. Lloyd (Pembroke)Munro, P.Ward, Irene M. B. (Wallsend)
Gilmour, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir J.Nall, Sir J.Wardlaw-Milne, Sir J. S.
Glyn, Major Sir R. G. C.Neven-Spence, Major B. H. H.Waterhouse. Captain C.

Don't "hon. Member" me. Do you think you are going to treat me like a boy? That is what you would like to do. I do not give a damn for you.

Question put.

May I ask whether the Prime Minister would withdraw his Motion in view of the fact that the hon. Member has left the House?

The Prime Minister has moved, and I have put the Question. The right hon. Gentleman must put his question to me seated.

The House divided: Ayes, 178; Noes, 104.

Watt, G. S. H.Withers, Sir J. J.

TELLERS FOR THE AYES.

Wayland, Sir W. AWomersley, Sir W. J.Mr. Cross and Captain D
Williams, C. (Torquay)Wright, Wing-Commander J. A. C.
Williams, H. G. (Croydon, S.)

NOES.

Adams, D. (Consett)Hall, G. H. (Aberdare)Noel-Baker, P. J.
Adamson, W. M.Hall, J. H. (Whitechapel)Paling, W.
Alexander, Rt. Hon. A. V, (H'lsbr.)Hardie, AgnesParkinson, J. A.
Ammon, C. G.Heyday, A.Pethick—Lawrence, Rt. Hon. F. W.
Attlee, Rt. Hon. C. R.Henderson, A. (Kingswinford)Ridley, G.
Batey, J.Henderson, J. (Ardwick)Riley, B.
Benson, G.Henderson, T. (Tradoston)Ritson, J.
Bevan, A.Hills, A. (Pontefract)Roberts, Rt. Hon. F. O. (W. Brom.)
Bromfield, W.Hopkin, D.Sexton. T. M.
Brown, C. (Mansfield)Jagger, J.Shinwell, E.
Brown, Rt. Hon. J. (S. Ayrshire)Jenkins, A. (Pontypool)Short, A.
Burke, W. A.Jenkins, Sir W. (Neath)Silverman, S. S.
Cape, T.Jones, A. C. (Shipley)Simpson, F. B.
Cassells, T.Kelly, W. T.Smith, Rt. Hon. H. B. Lees- (K'ly)
Chater, D.Kennedy, Rt. Hon. T.Smith, T. (Nor nanton)
Cluse, W. S.Kirby, B. V.Stephen, C.
Clynes, Rt. Hon. J. R.Lathan, G.Stewart, W. J. (H'ght'n-le-Sp'ng)
Dagger, G.Lawson, J. J.Taylor, R. J. (Morpeth)
Dalton, H.Leach, W.Thorne, W.
Davidson, J. J. (Maryhill)Lee, F.Thurtle, E.
Davies, S. O. (Merthyr)Leonard, W.Tinker, J. J.
Day, H.Leslie, J. R.Viant, S. P.
Dobbie, W.Logan, D. G.Walker, J.
Dunn. E. (Rother Valley)Lunn, W.Watson, W. McL.
Ede, J. C.Macdonald, G. (Ince)Wedgwood, Rt. Hon. J. C.
Edwards, A. (Middlesbrough E.)McEntee, V. La T.Welsh, J. C.
Edwards, Sir C. (Bedwellty)McGovern, J.Westwood, J.
Fletcher, Lt.-Comdr. R. T. H.Maclean, N.Wilkinson, Ellen
Gallacher, W.MacMillan, M. (Western Isles)Williams, E. J. (Ogmore)
Gardner, B. W.Mainwaring, W. H.Wilson, C. H. (Attercliffe)
Garro Jones, G. M.Mathers, G.Windsor, W. (Hull, C.)
Graham, D. M. (Hamilton)Messer, F.Woods, G. S. (Finsbury)
Greenwood, Rt. Hon. A.Montague, F.
Grenfell, D. R.Morrison, R. C. (Tottenham, N.)

TELLERS FOR THE NOES.

Griffiths, C. A. (Hemsworth)Muff, G.Mr. Groves and Mr. Charleton.
Guest, Dr. L. H. (Islington, N.)Naylor, T. E.

On a point of Order. Will the Prime Minister make an explanation of why he moved that suspension after the hon. Member had left the House?

The House will recollect that I asked the hon. Member for Dumbarton Burghs (Mr. Kirkwood) to withdraw from the House. He first of all refused, and I had to name him. He then proceeded to walk out. As he was walking out I rose and was prepared to withdraw my naming of him, but he turned round at the Bar and insulted me, and had no other course to pursue than to allow matters to proceed.

May I point out, Mr. Speaker, that when the hon. Member turned round and insulted you he was actually not in the House.