Motion made, and Question proposed,
That, at this day's sitting, Mr. Speaker do adjourn the House at Two o'clock without putting any Question.—[Mr. Jopling.]
The hon. Member for Swindon (Mr. Stoddart) gave me notice of a manuscript amendment, which I do not propose to accept. The manuscript amendment proposes that the sitting should continue until 5 o'clock. If the House wishes to vote on the motion, I think that it had better do so straight away to avoid taking time out of the main debate. If the motion were rejected, we would have an open-ended debate.
11.7 am
I wish to speak briefly to the motion and to give my reasons for asking that the manuscript amendment be accepted.
The motion proposes a three-hour debate. Quite naturally, the Prime Minister, the Leader of the Opposition and other senior Front Bench spokesmen will wish to put the point of view of the Government and of the Opposition. The House is packed with Privy Councillors, ex-Prime Ministers and ex-Foreign Secretaries, who are entitled to give the House the benefit of their long experience. There will therefore be very little time left for Back-Bench Members to give their views and those of their constituents whom they will have consulted yesterday about the grave crisis facing this country and the international terrorism perpetrated on the Falkland Islands by the Argentine Government. I hope, therefore, that the House will vote against the motion so that we may have an adequate discussion on this matter.Question put:—
The House divided: Ayes 204, Noes 115.
Division No. 117]
| [11.07 am
|
AYES
| |
| Adley,Robert | Goodhew,SirVictor |
| Alexander,Richard | Goodlad,Alastair |
| Ancram,Michael | Gorst,John |
| Arnold,Tom | Gow, Ian |
| Aspinwall,Jack | Grant, Anthony (Harrow C) |
| Atkins, RtHon H.(S'thorne) | Greenway, Harry |
| Atkins,Robert(PrestonN) | Grist, Ian |
| Atkinson,David(B'm'th,E) | Grylls,Michael |
| Baker,Kenneth(St.M'bone) | Gummer,JohnSelwyn |
| Banks,Robert | Hamilton,Michael(Salisbury) |
| Bendall, Vivian | Hampson, DrKeith |
| Benyon, W(Buckingham) | Hannam,John |
| Bevan,DavidGilroy | Haselhurst,Alan |
| Biffen, RtHon John | Havers, Rt Hon Sir Michael |
| Blackburn,John | Hayhoe, Barney |
| Blaker, Peter | Heddle,John |
| Body, Richard | Higgins, Rt Hon Terence L. |
| Bonsor.SirNicholas | Hill,James |
| Boscawen.HonRobert | Hogg.HonDouglas(Gr'th'm,) |
| Bottomley, Peter (W'wich W) | Holland, Philip(Carlton) |
| Bowden,Andrew | Howe, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey |
| Boyson,Dr Rhodes | Howell, Ralph (N Norfolk) |
| Braine,SirBernard | Hunt, David (Wirral) |
| Bright.Graham | Hurd, RtHon Douglas |
| Brooke, Hon Peter | Jenkin, Rt Hon Patrick |
| Browne,John(Winchester) | Jessel, Toby |
| Bryan, Sir Paul | JohnsonSmith,Geoffrey |
| Buck,Antony | Jopling,RtHonMichael |
| Budgen,Nick | Joseph, Rt Hon Sir Keith |
| Burden,SirFrederick | Kellett-Bowman.MrsElaine |
| Butcher,John | Kershaw, SirAnthony |
| Carlisle, John (Luton West) | King, RtHon Tom |
| Carlisle, Kenneth (Lincoln) | Kitson,SirTimothy |
| Carlisle, RtHonM. (R'c'n) | Lang, Ian |
| Chalker, Mrs. Lynda | LeMarchant,Spencer |
| Channon, Rt. Hon. Paul | Lennox-Boyd.HonMark |
| Chapman,Sydney | Lester, Jim (Beeston) |
| Churchill,W.S. | Lewis,Kenneth(Rutland) |
| Clark, SirW. (Croydon S) | Lloyd, Peter (Fareham) |
| Clegg.SirWalter | Loveridge.John |
| Colvin,Michael | Luce,Richard |
| Cope,John | Lyell, Nicholas |
| Costain,SirAlbert | McCrindle, Robert |
| Critchley.Julian | Macfarlane.Neil |
| Crouch,David | Macmillan, RtHonM. |
| Douglas-Hamilton, LordJ. | McNair-Wilson,M.(N'bury,) |
| Dover.Denshore | McQuarrie, Albert |
| du Cann, Rt Hon Edward | Madel, David |
| Dunn, Robert (Dartford) | Major, John |
| Durant.Tony | Marland.Paul |
| Eden, RtHon Sir John | Marlow,Antony |
| Edwards, Rt Hon N. (P'broke) | Marshall,Michael(Arundel) |
| Eggar.Tim | Mates,Michael |
| Emery, Sir Peter | Mawhinney,DrBrian |
| Eyre,Reginald | Maxwell-Hyslop, Robin |
| Faith, MrsSheila | Mayhew, Patrick |
| Fell, Sir Anthony | Mellor, David |
| Fenner, Mrs Peggy | Miller,Hal(B'grove) |
| Finsberg,Geoffrey | Mills,Iain(Meriden) |
| Fisher, Sir Nigel | Mills, Peter (West Devon) |
| Fletcher, A. (Ed'nb'ghN) | Mitchell,David(Basingstoke)
|
| Fletcher-Cooke.SirCharles | Moate, Roger |
| Forman,Nigel | Moore.John |
| Fowler, Rt Hon Norman | Morris, M. (N'hamptonS) |
| Fraser, Peter (South Angus) | Moyle, RtHon Roland |
| Fry, Peter | Murphy,Christopher |
| Gardiner, George(Reigate) | Nelson,Anthony |
| Garel-Jones,Tristan | Neubert,Michael |
| Gilmour, RtHon Sir Ian | Normanton.Tom |
| Glyn, DrAlan | Nott, RtHon John |
| Goodhart.SirPhilip | Onslow, Cranley |
| Oppenheim, Rt Hon Mrs S. | Stewart, Ian (Hitchin) |
| Osborn,John | Stokes,John |
| Page, John (Harrow, West) | StradlingThomasJ. |
| Page, Richard (SWHerts) | Taylor, Teddy (S'end E) |
| Parkinson, RtHonCecil | Tebbit, Rt Hon Norman |
| Patten.Christopher(Bath) | Thatcher, Rt Hon Mrs M. |
| Pattie,Geoffrey | Thompson,Donald |
| Pawsey, James | Thorne, Neil (IlfordSouth) |
| Percival, Sir Ian | Townsend, Cyril D, (B'heath) |
| Peyton, Rt Hon John | Trippier, David |
| Porter, Barry | van Straubenzee, Sir W. |
| Proctor, K. Harvey | Vaughan, DrGerard |
| Pym, Rt Hon Francis | Viggers, Peter |
| Raison, Rt Hon Timothy | Waddington, David |
| Rathbone, Tim | Waldegrave, HonWilliam |
| Rhys Williams, Sir Brandon | Walker, B. (Perth) |
| Ridley,Hon Nicholas | Walker-Smith, Rt Hon Sir D. |
| Rossi, Hugh | Wall.SirPatrick |
| Sainsbury.HonTimothy | Ward,John |
| Shaw, Giles (Pudsey) | Warren,Kenneth |
| Shaw,Michael (Scarborough) | Watson,John |
| Shelton.William(Streatham) | Wheeler,John |
| Shepherd,Colin (Hereford) | Whitelaw, RtHonWilliam |
| Silvester, Fred | Whitney, Raymond |
| Sims, Roger | Wickenden,Keith |
| Skeet, T. H. H. | Wilkinson,John |
| Speed, Keith | Williams.D.(Montgomery,) |
| Speller,Tony | Young,SirGeorge(Acton) |
| Spicer, Jim (WestDorset) | Younger, Rt Hon George |
| Spicer, Michael (S Worcs) | |
| Squire,Robin | Tellers for the Ayes: |
| Stainton, Keith | Mr. Carol Mather and Mr. Anthony Berry. |
| Stanbrook,lvor |
NOES
| |
| Aitken,Jonathan | Coleman,Donald |
| Alton,David | Cormack, Patrick |
| Amery, Rt Hon Julian | Cox.T. (W'dsw'th, Toot'g) |
| Ashley, Rt Hon Jack | Cranborne, Viscount |
| Berth, A. J. | Crawshaw,Richard |
| Benn, Rt Hon Tony | Davis, Clinton (Hackney C) |
| Bennett,Andrew(St'kp'tN) | Davis, Terry (B'ham, Stechf'd) |
| Bidwell,Sydney | Dobson,Frank |
| Biggs-Davison,SirJohn | Dubs, Alfred |
| Bottomley, RtHonA(M'b'ro) | Dunnett.Jack |
| Bray, Dr Jeremy | Eastham.Ken |
| Brocklebank-Fowler.C. | Edwards, R. (W'hampt'n S E) |
| Brown, Hugh D. (Provan) | English,Michael |
| Brown, Ronald W. (H'ckn'yS) | Ennals, Rt Hon David |
| Callaghan, Jim (Midd't'n&P) | Farr,John |
| Campbell,Ian | Field, Frank |
| Campbell-Savours, Dale | Fitt, Gerard |
| Carmichael.Neil | Foulkes, George |
| Clark, Hon A. (Plym'th, S'n) | Fraser, J. (Lamb'th, N'w'd) |
| Cohen,Stanley | Freeson, RtHon Reginald |
| George,Bruce | Robertson,George |
| Gilbert, RtHon Dr John | Robinson, P. (Belfast E) |
| Hamilton, W.W. (C'tral Fife) | Rodgers, RtHonWilliam |
| Haynes, Frank | Rooker, J. W. |
| Holland, (L'b'th,Vauxh'll) | Roper,John |
| Homewood, William | Rowlands,Ted |
| Hordern,Peter | Sheerman,Barry |
| Janner.HonGreville | Sheldon, Rt Hon R. |
| Jay, RtHon Douglas | Silkin, Rt Hon S. C. (Dulwich) |
| Jenkins, Rt Hon Roy (Hillhead) | Silverman,Julius |
| Johnston, Russell(Inverness) | Soley, Clive |
| Kilfedder,JamesA. | Spearing,Nigel |
| Kilroy-Silk.Robert | Stallard,A.W. |
| Lamond, James | Stewart, Rt Hon D. (W Isles) |
| Leighton, Ronald | Stoddart,David |
| Lewis, Ron (Carlisle) | Straw,Jack |
| Lloyd, Ian (Havant & W'loo) | Summerskill,HonDrShirley |
| Lofthouse,Geoffrey | Temple-Morris,Peter |
| McGu ire, Michael (Ince) | Thomas, Mike (Newcastle E) |
| MacKenzie, RtHonGregor | Tilley,John |
| McTaggart, Robert | Torney,Tom |
| McWilliam.John | Urwin, RtHon Tom |
| Magee, Bryan | Wainwright E. (DearneV) |
| Marks,Kenneth | Weetch, Ken |
| Mitchell, Austin(Grimsby) | Welsh,Michael |
| Molyneaux,James | White, Frank R. |
| Morgan,Geraint | White, J. (G'gowPollok) |
| Morris, Rt Hon C. (O'shaw) | Williams, Rt Hon A.(S'sea W) |
| Newens, Stanley | Williams, Rt Hon Mrs (Crosby) |
| Ogden,Eric | Wilson, RtHonSirH.(H'ton) |
| Owen, Rt Hon Dr David | Winnick, David |
| Paisley, Rev Ian | Woodall,Alec |
| Park, George | Woolmer,Kenneth |
| Pendry,Tom | Wright.Sheila |
| Pitt, William Henry | Young, David (Bolton E) |
| Powell, Rt Hon J.E. (S Down) | |
| Powell, Raymond(Ogmore) | Tellers for the Noes: |
| Price, C. (Lewisham W) | Mr. John Maxton and Mr. John Home Robertson. |
| Radice, Giles | |
| Richardson.Jo |
Question accordingly agreed to.
On a point of order, Mr. Speaker. Yesterday, as reported in column 620 of Hansard, your Deputy undertook to enter into certain consultations in answer to a question of mine about whether the Foreign Secretary could be examined at the Bar of the House about the Falkland Islands. Could you please inform us of the results of those consultations?
Only the House can decide on that question. It is not a matter for a ruling by Mr. Speaker.