National Insurance Act Unemployment Benefit 28 and 30. Mr. WORTHINGTON-EVANS asked the President of the Board of Trade (1) why unemployment benefit has not yet been paid to A. E. Simm, who registered at the Colchester Labour Exchange on the 20th February and did not obtain the promise of re-employment until the 31st of March, and whose re-employment is jeopardised by the retention of his card, and whether any explanation can be given of the delay; and (2) why the unemployed insurance card belonging to A. E. Simm, painter's labourer, lodged on 20th February, at the Colchester Labour Exchange, though applied for personally and in writing on and since 19th March, was not returned by the 30th March, on the ground that it had been sent to London; and whether compensation will be paid to Simm for loss of time in endeavouring to recover it, and for loss of wages if further loss of work is caused, as seems likely by his being unable to produce it? The PARLIAMENTARY SECRETARY to the BOARD of TRADE (Mr. J. M. Robertson) I understand that Mr. Simm lodged his claim to benefit on the 20th February, but that owing to the pressure of work at this time caused by the return to the Divisional Office of many thousands of claims the period of validity of which had expired, the claim was, by an error which I much regret, filed away. It has since been traced and Mr. Simm was duly paid last week. There does not appear to be any question of Mr. Simm's employment having been jeopardised by the non-return to him of his unemployment book. Mr. Simm was placed in employment through the Labour Exchange on the 19th March, and I understand that he is still in that employment. In view of the fact that his permanent unemployment book was not available at the local office a temporary book was sent to him. 29. Mr. WORTHINGTON-EVANS asked the nature of the misconduct alleged against G. R. Abbot by reason of which unemployment benefit is refused by the Dundee Labour Exchange, and how soon after the 1st February, when unemployment benefit was applied for, was this decision given; and why it has taken twelve days to ascertain that the refusal of unemployed benefit is due to this cause? Mr. ROBERTSON The grounds upon which Mr. Abbot's claim was disallowed have already been communicated to him. He applied for unemployment benefit on 5th February, and not on the 1st, as stated by the hon. Member, and the decision notifying him of the fact that benefit had been disallowed was forwarded to the Labour Exchange on 26th February. I may add that the improved methods which have recently been adopted will, I hope, greatly reduce the possibility of the recurrence of the occasional delays which have inevitably occurred in the earlier stages of dealing with claims. As regards the delay in obtaining the information asked for by the hon. Member on 19th March, I would point out that it was necessary to make inquiries in Scotland to obtain the desired information, and that the Easter holidays intervened. Sanatorium Benefit 37 and 56. Mr. WORTHINGTON-EVANS asked (1) whether the sanction of the Treasury has been asked by the Local Government Board to the advance of all, instead of three-fifths, of the cost of building a sanatorium at Nayland of about 100 beds; if so, with what result; whether similar applications will be entertained from county authorities, or whether the three-fifths' rule is intended to be absolute; also (2) whether any arrangement has been made with the East Anglian Sanatorium Company or its managing director for a Grant of a sum equal to the total cost of a sanatorium of about 100 beds at Nayland; and, if no arrangement has been made, is any negotiation pending with the object of increasing the Grant beyond the usual three-fifths of the total cost. The PRESIDENT of the LOCAL GOVERNMENT BOARD (Mr. Burns) I may inform the hon. Member that an application has been received for a Grant for the erection of sanatorium accommodation at Nayland, and that the proposal is now under consideration. Mr. WORTHINGTON-EVANS Has any request been made to advance the full amount instead of the usual three-fifths, and is the usual three-fifths to be an absolute rule or not? Mr. BURNS I believe that an application for some Grant above the three-fifths has been made, and is being considered by the Treasury and the Local Government Board. Mr. WORTHINGTON-EVANS Is the three-fifths' rule an absolute rule, or may any one of these counties apply for the full amount? Mr. BURNS I think that that had better be answered when the matter is fully considered. Loss Of Contribution Cards 33. Mr. WORTHINGTON-EVANS asked what arrangements have been made for accepting proof of payment of contributions where a contribution card has been lost; and whether, in the case of William Bishop, No. 123814, boiler-maker, of Ipswich, a member of the Hearts of Oak Approved Society, whose first quarter's contribution card has been lost and who is refused benefit on the ground that the society is awaiting the decision of the National Health Insurance Commissioners an immediate decision can be come to by accepting the assurance of his employers, Messrs. Ransomes, Sims, and Jefferies, that the contribution card for the first quarter was fully paid, seeing that the Commissioners have had the matter before them for more than a month? Mr. ROBERTSON I would refer the hon. Member to the reply which my right hon. Friend the Secretary to the Treasury gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Gorton on the 3rd of this month. Each case of a lost card must be considered on its merits, and there is no trace in the office of the Insurance Commission of the receipt of any communication with regard to the contributor mentioned in the question. Mr. WORTHINGTON-EVANS Assuming the facts of the question, will the hon. Gentleman accept the statement of both the man and his employers that he has paid the whole of the quarter's contribution? Mr. ROBERTSON Each case of the kind must be discussed on its merits. Mr. WORTHINGTON-EVANS Will the hon. Gentleman have some inquiries made as to whether the statement is well founded? Mr. ROBERTSON Every inquiry has been made, and no trace has been found of any communication on this case. Mr. JOHN WARD Is this always decided by the Commissioners or is it a matter to be left to the approved societies to decide what they will do? Mr. ROBERTSON I cannot say in all cases. Disablement Benefit 43. Mr. WORTHINGTON-EVANS asked whether an insured person who becomes an employed contributor after the age of fifty will become entitled to disablement benefit if permanently disabled after he has paid 104 contributions for 104 weeks; and whether, if the rules of an approved society stipulate that 500 contributions must have been paid in such a case before the insured person is qualified for disablement benefit, the Commissioners will cause public notice to be given that such rules are ultra vires? Mr. ROBERTSON The answer to the first part of the question is in the affirmative. The Commissioners are not aware of any case in which the rules of a society are in error on the point, and they would be glad if the hon. Member will let them know of any case which has come to his notice. Chemists (Convictions) 55. Mr. KING asked the Secretary to the Treasury whether he is aware of the offence proved against a firm of chemists at Fenton, Staffordshire, who sold to the Stoke-on-Trent insurance committee a number of pills not in accordance with the prescription; whether insurance committees are empowered to strike off the list any chemists convicted of such offences; and whether the Insurance Commissioners will occasionally test the medicines and pills supplied and so ensure their proper composition and efficacy? Mr. ROBERTSON The Commissioners have seen a report of the case referred to. If any representations are made to them that the inclusion or continuance on the panel of any chemist will be prejudicial to the efficiency of the service, they may after inquiry exclude or remove such chemist from the panel. With regard to the third part of the question it is the duty of the insurance committee to take such steps as may be necessary to secure a proper and sufficient supply of drugs and medicines for the insured persons in their area. Mr. KING I understand from that answer that persons might be removed from the list on representations. From whom would these representations proceed—from the Insurance Commissioners or from insured persons? Mr. ROBERTSON They may come from any respectable source Medical Benefit 88. Mr. FREDERICK HALL (Dulwich) asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if his attention has been called to the inquest on a woman held on the 29th March at Hull, when the doctor who was called in stated that the woman would not have died had she received attention earlier, and adding that, owing to the increase of work thrown on him and his partner in connection with the National Insurance Act they now found it impossible to undertake the amount of night work they had previously done, and had to refuse to deal with cases in which they had not a direct interest; if he will state the number of insured persons on the list of the doctor in question; the total number of panel doctors in Hull; and the number of insured persons there? Mr. ROBERTSON The Commissioners have made inquiries into the case referred to. They understand that the woman in question was not an insured person but a private patient. So far from stating that she would have lived if she had been attended earlier, the doctor states definitely that she would have died in any case. The number of insured persons on his list for whose treatment he has undertaken responsibility (only a very small proportion of whom, of course, are ill at any one time) is 2,238; the number of doctors on the panel for Hull is seventy-seven, and the number of insured persons approximately 89,000. Mr. F. HALL Is the hon. Gentleman aware that the doctors stated that if the woman had received earlier treatment she certainly would have lived; and may I ask whether he can inform the House how many persons unfortunately have died in consequence of the unsatisfactory arrangements that have been made in regard to the work of medical officers? Mr. ROBERTSON Obviously I cannot pretend to answer a question of that kind. Friendly Societies (National Conference) 84. Mr. O'GRADY asked whether the Chancellor of the Exchequer's attention has been called by the National Conference of Friendly Societies and by the Joint Committee of Approved Societies to the hardships suffered by aged and sick members of friendly societies, who are unable to obtain medical treatment except at a greatly increased cost in consequence of the concessions he has made to the medical profession; and whether he can now see his way to make a Grant of 2s. 6d. a year for such members of sixty-five years of age and upwards, whether insured under the National Insurance Act, Part I., or not, upon the condition that the societies arrange a satisfactory system of medical treatment for such members? Mr. ROBERTSON My right hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer had representations on this subject, but I am afraid I have nothing to add to the answers given by my right bon. Friend the Secretary to the Treasury to similar questions. Mr. J. H. THOMAS Is the hon. Gentleman aware that when the Act was passing through this House hon. Members were assured that insured persons would not be subject to injustice, and is he aware that members of approved societies are being penalised under present conditions? Mr. KEIR HARDIE Will the right hon. Gentleman deal with this point in the Bill to amend the Insurance Act which he is about to introduce? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER (Mr. Lloyd George) It is being considered. Medical Certificates 85. Sir WILLIAM BULL asked by what right certain of the approved societies, acting as distributors of public funds under the National Insurance Act, withhold payment of insurance benefit on the ground that the medical certificates have been signed by the patient's own private medical adviser as distinguished from a panel doctor, seeing that the Insurance Commissioners have already pointed out that there is nothing either in the Act or in the Regulations under the Act to justify such a proceeding; whether the Government look upon the doctors who are not on the panel as hostile and will not accept their certificates; and whether the Government auditors would look to the secretary of an approved society to refund money paid on certificates of non-panel doctors as having been money unlawfully paid away? Mr. ROBERTSON I would refer the hon. Member to the answers given by my right hon. Friend the Financial Secretary to the Treasury on 15th January and 6th February, and to the full statement made by him in Debate on 12th February. The acceptance or refusal of a certificate of any particular medical practitioner for the purpose of administering sickness benefit is in the first instance for the approved society to decide, subject to a right of the insured person to appeal to the Insurance Commissioners under Section 67 of the Act. The answer to the last part of the question is in the negative. Deductions From Wages 40. Mr. LYELL asked the Secretary to the Treasury whether his attention has been called to the case of a number of men employed by the Edinburgh and Leith Gas Commissioners in putting out the gas lights on common stairs every morning at the rate of 1s. 5d. the morning, or under 10s. a week; whether he is aware that these men were compulsorily insured from 15th July, 1912, until 8th February, 1913, when they were informed that they were outside the compulsory provisions of the National Insurance Act, but had the option of continuing as voluntary contributors; and whether, in view of the fact that these men had 33 weeks' deductions made from their wages under a misapprehension, he can see his way to refund to such of them as do not insure as voluntary contributors the deductions amounting to 11s. apiece. Mr. ROBERTSON The persons referred to in the question were properly insured as employed contributors until 30th December last, when a Special Order came into force by which their employment was excluded from the scope of the compulsory provisions of the National Insurance Act as a class of employment which is ordinarily adopted as subsidiary employment only, and not as a principal means of livelihood. In the circumstances the contributions paid by the men up to 30th December cannot be treated as having been paid under a misapprehension, and the Commissioners have no power to make any repayment from the National Health Insurance Fund in respect of such contributions. If, however, deductions have been made from the men's wages for any period subsequent to that date an application for a refund so far as those contributions are concerned would be entertained in the case of any men who may not elect to continue in insurance as voluntary contributors. Mr. LYELL What is to become of the payments that were made before that date? Mr. ROBERTSON I will ask my hon. Friend to give me notice of that. Goods Traffic (New Regulations) 35. Sir JOHN LONSDALE asked the President of the Board of Trade if he has received any reply from the Irish Railway Clearing House with reference to the new regulations requiring goods sent by rail to be fully addressed; and if any modification of the regulations has been decided upon? Mr. ROBERTSON As was stated, in reply to a question put by my hon. Friend the Member for East Tyrone on Wednesday last, the Irish companies have temporarily adopted the regulations of the English companies. Conveyance Of Potatoes (Caledonian Railway) 36. Mr. FREDERICK WHYTE asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he has received a satisfactory reply from the Caledonian Railway Company on the subject of the complaint made by the Perth and Forfar potato merchants; and, if not, whether he will communicate once more to the company the imperative necessity of taking immediate action to remedy the grievance? Mr. ROBERTSON I have received a reply from the railway company, a copy of which I have forwarded to my hon. Friend. Briefly, the substance of the company's letter is to the effect that the shortage is due to exceptional circumstances, and that they have endeavoured to meet it by placing at the disposal of the potato merchants waggons obtained from the English railway companies. Peninsular And Oriental Steamship Company (Subsidies) 39. Mr. OUTHWAITE asked the amount of subsidies agreed to be paid to the Peninsular and Oriental Steamship Company by the imperial Government for the conveyance of mails, under contracts entered into during the period when the Earl of Selborne was Under-Secretary of State for the Colonies and First Lord of the Admiralty? 14. Mr. KING asked the Postmaster-General the amount paid for the conveyance of mails by the Peninsular and Oriental Steamship Company during the years when the Earl of Selborne was a Member of the Government? The POSTMASTER-GENERAL (Mr. Herbert Samuel) The sums payable for the conveyance of oversea mails are stated in the contracts which are sub- mitted for the approval of the House of Commons. I would refer my hon. Friend to House of Commons Papers, 259 of 1897 and 328 of 1904. Mr. SWIFT MacNEILL During the period in question was the subsidy for the China and Oriental mails raised by £10,000 per annum? Mr. HERBERT SAMUEL I would like to have notice of that. I think that there was some increase and decreases also. Mr. KING In view of the interest in this class of subject at present, will the right hon. Gentleman consider the issue of a Return or Paper going back a great number of years and giving all these… Mr. SPEAKER The hon. Member must give notice. Civil Service (Second Division) 42. Sir WILLIAM BULL asked how many vacancies were advertised at the second division clerks' examinations held in 1911 and 1912, and how many clerks were appointed from each list? Mr. ROBERTSON The number of vacancies advertised was 100 in each year. The number of appointments from the 1911 list was 450, and the probable number from the 1912 list will be 550. Marconi Company (Post Office Contract) 44. Mr. F. HALL asked on what date application was made to the Treasury for any necessary approval of the contract between the Post Office and the Marconi Company; and the date when such approval was given? Mr. ROBERTSON On 7th March, 1912, the Post Office sought and obtained oral authority from the Treasury for accepting the company's tender. By a letter dated 11th March, they subsequently requested formal authority, and this was conveyed to them by a Treasury letter dated 20th March. Mr. F. HALL Was the Chancellor of the Exchequer consulted personally with regard to the matter? Mr. ROBERTSON I will have to ask notice of that. Poor Law Institutions (Order) 58. Mr. DAWES asked the President of the Local Government Board (1) whether he will circulate copies of the draft Poor Law Institutions Order to Members of the House and undertake not to issue it until an opportunity of discussing it in the House has been given; (2) whether the Departmental Committee by whom the draft proposed Poor Law Institutions Order was prepared included any represenative of either the medical or nursing professions; (3) whether he will state if the draft Poor Law Institutions Order, now under his consideration, admits of an inmate of a workhouse being employed in nursing sick inmates if approved by the medical officer and acting under the immediate supervision of a paid officer in the sick wards; whether such paid officer is to be a trained nurse; and whether such an employment is in direct opposition to a memorandum issued by the Local Government Board in the year 1892, in which the employment of paupers in such wards was strongly disapproved; (4) whether the draft proposed Poor Law Institutions Order has been confidentially supplied to certain persons and associations; and, if so, to whom; and whether he has refused to supply copies to other associations and to boards of guardians who have applied for them; and (5) whether he will state if any provision is made in the draft Poor Law Institutions Order, now under his consideration, for a training qualification for nurses in small workhouses where only one nurse is employed; whether it is provided that if in any workhouse there is no superintendent nurse the matron is to perform the duties of the position, and if any provision is made for such matron possessing an adequate training qualification; whether it is provided that the workhouse master is to have control of the sick wards and consequently over the superintendent nurse and her staff; and whether, if so, this would entitle the workhouse master to visit at any time any of the sick wards, whether male or female? Mr. BURNS The Departmental Committee appointed to consider the Poor Law Orders with a view to their consolidation and amendment have not yet made their Report to me, and consequently I am not in a position to say what their proposals are. I understand that some time ago the Committee invited the observations of the Poor Law Unions Association and some other bodies upon certain of their proposals. As soon as I receive their Report, which I understand will include a draft Order, I will give consideration to the various matters referred to by my hon. Friend, including the suggestion that the draft Order shall be laid upon the Table. Pure Food Bill 63. Sir JOHN LONSDALE asked the President of the Local Government Board if he can name a day for the introduction of the Bill in preparation dealing with the question of the purity of food? Mr. BURNS I am not yet able to name a date for the introduction of this Bill. Sir J. LONSDALE Can the right hon. Gentleman assure the House that it will be before Whitsuntide? Mr. BURNS When the Milk Bill is well on the way I am disposed to deal with bread. Hitchin (Insanitary Conditions) 66. Sir HENRY HAVELOCK-ALLAN asked the President of the Local Government Board whether he is aware of the insanitary conditions which prevail in certain of the older streets of Hitchin, in Hertfordshire; if so, whether he proposes to take any action in relation thereto? Mr. BURNS I am aware that in some parts of the urban district of Hitchin the housing conditions are very unsatisfactory, and I have for some time past been in correspondence with the district council in relation to the Queen Street area of the district, with a view to action being taken by the council to remedy the conditions in that area by making an improvement scheme under the Housing of the Working Classes Act, 1890. I have recently addressed a further letter to the council on the subject. Import Of Seeds (Ireland) 75. Mr. FFRENCH asked the Vice-President of the Department of Agriculture (Ireland) whether he is aware that the American Custom House officers take samples of seeds at the port of arrival, and if it is found that they do not come up to a certain standard of quality the names of the buyer and the seller are published; is he aware that Ireland is a dumping ground for spurious, diseased, and adulterated seeds; and whether he has any means at his disposal to protect farmers in this respect? The CHIEF SECRETARY for IRELAND (Mr. Birrell) The Department are aware of the procedure in the United States. The Department are empowered by the Weeds and Agricultural Seeds (Ireland) Act, 1909, to cause samples of agricultural seeds to be taken and tested for purity and germination and to publish the results if deemed desirable. They are taking active measures to suppress the sale of seeds of the class described by the hon. Member. Old Age Pensions, Insurance, And Labour Exchanges (Cost) 78. Mr. LEACH asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer the total amount which the social legislation of the present Government, in the three items of old age pensions, insurance, and Labour Exchanges, is costing the country? Mr. LLOYD GEORGE The total amount which Parliament is invited to Vote in 1913–14 for old age pensions, insurance, and Labour Exchanges is £21,239,847. Sir J. D. REES What is the cost to the country in the higher cost of living? Food Taxes 79. Mr. LEACH asked if, whilst the national expenditure has increased by about thirty-five millions sterling since the present Government came into office in 1906 and the National Debt has, during the same period, been reduced by seventy-eight millions sterling, no new tax has been put upon the food of the people? Mr. LLOYD GEORGE No new tax has been imposed of the nature stated. Undeveloped Land Tax (Arrears) 80. Mr. JOYNSON-HICKS asked whether the Chancellor of the Exchequer has been and is now collecting arrears of Undeveloped Land Duty from the present owners of properties, without having regard to the fact that such property has changed hands since the duty became due, but before any valuation enabled either vendor or purchaser to know that such duty was payable? Mr. LLOYD GEORGE The answer is in the affirmative, the practice being in accordance with the law which provides that Undeveloped Land Duty shall be recoverable from the owner of the land for the time being. I do not think a vendor or purchaser would have serious difficulty in making an approximate estimate of the amount of duty payable. Mr. JOYNSON-HICKS How can the vendor or purchaser know that the duty will not be payable? The purchaser could not know when he bought it. Mr. LLOYD GEORGE I do not quite accept that view. 89. Sir J. D. REES asked whether Undeveloped Land Tax is being demanded upon working men's garden allotments in the Porchester freehold garden estate, on the ground that their gardens have not been turned into buildings; and whether the Chancellor of the Exchequer will direct his subordinates to desist from such demands of working men who are using their allotments for the purposes for which they were intended? Mr. LLOYD GEORGE The answer to the first part of the question is in the affirmative. Duty is primâ facie chargeable in respect of the land to which the hon. Member refers, but claims for exemption under the provisions of Section 18 of the Finance (1909–10) Act, 1910, have been received from a number of owners, and these claims are now being investigated. Land Valuation 81. Mr. NEWMAN asked why the provisional valuations in the case of every tenement covered by an Estate Duty case have not been hitherto issued in Ireland when such is done in England whenever a valuation for Estate Duty has been made under the Finance (1909–10) Act, 1910; and whether they will in future be issued in Ireland simultaneously with the valuation of the estate for duty? Mr. LLOYD GEORGE The instructions in force in England with regard to the issue of provisional valuations when the valuation for Estate Duty purposes has been completed are also acted on in Ireland so far as land situated in cities and urban districts is concerned. As regards land situated in rural districts, the valuation for Estate Duty purposes generally falls to be made on a different basis from the valuations under Part I. of the Finance (1909–10) Act, 1910, and is not as a rule dealt with by the Commissioner of Valuation. 82. Mr. NEWMAN asked what authority the Treasury had for having ordered the permanent valuers of the General Valuation Office, Ireland, who received warrants on appointment showing that their duties only embraced the carrying out of the provisions of the Irish Valuation Acts, to make valuations in Ireland under the Finance (1909–10) Act, 1910; whether the Chancellor of the Exchequer is aware that these valuers have been admitted by the Commissioner of Valuation to be the most competent valuers to make valuations under the Finance Act in Ireland; and whether the Treasury will give directions that they shall not be required to make valuations under that Act unless they are fairly remunerated for doing so? Mr. LLOYD GEORGE The warrant referred to was an authorisation to inspect lands for valuation purposes under the old Valuation Acts and quoted these Statutes. It does not limit the general duties of the valuation officers. The new Finance Act valuations being made by these are largely used for work under the old Valuation Acts. I cannot accept the suggestion in the last part of the question that the officers in question are insufficiently remunerated for the duties they are performing. 83. Mr. OLIVER LOCKER-LAMPSON asked whether the Chancellor of the Exchequer intends to introduce legislation to meet the Lumsden case and avoid its results? Mr. LLOYD GEORGE I can at present add nothing to the reply which I gave on the 26th March last to the hon. Baronet the Member for Mid-Armagh. Income Tax (Members' Salaries) 86. Mr. CASSEL asked whether the Treasury received from the Comptroller Fund Auditor-General a communication calling in question the legality of the allowance of £100, without proof of expenditure, for assessing Income Tax on the salaries of Members of Parliament, and asking whether an opinion of the Law Officers had been obtained in support of the course taken; what was the date of such communication; whether any reply was sent, and, if so, when; and whether he will lay the correspondence on this subject upon the Table of the House? Mr. LLOYD GEORGE A communication to the effect stated, dated 13th November, 1912, was received. A reply was sent on the 15th February, 1913. The correspondence on the subject has been laid before the Public Accounts Committee of this House. Mr. CASSEL May I ask whether the right hon. Gentleman will not lay the correspondence on the Table, it being a matter affecting the private affairs of Members of this House; whether it is the habit of the Treasury to wait for more than two months before replying to letters; and whether he will take the opinion of the Law Officers on the subject? Mr. LLOYD GEORGE I think the usual course has been taken. The correspond- ence has to be laid in the first instance before a Committee of this House. It is not an outside Committee, it is a Committee appointed by this House to investigate matters of this kind, and the correspondence is always laid before the Public Accounts Committee in the first instance. It would be a departure from the usual practice to lay it on the Table first. Mr. CASSEL Having regard to the fact that this affects the private affairs of Members, will the right hon. Gentleman make a departure from the practice; and will he state why such a long time was allowed to elapse, from the 13th November, 1912, to 15th February, 1913, before replying to the Comptroller and Auditor-General? Mr. LLOYD GEORGE I cannot answer the question without notice, but I should lave thought that the observations of the hon. Member show why the correspondence should first go before the Committee. 50. Mr. CASSEL asked the Prime Minister whether his attention has been called to the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor-General calling in question the legailty of a uniform allowance of £100, without proof of actual expenditure, for the purpose of assessing Income Tax on the salaries of Members of Parliament; and whether, in view of the importance of insuring that allowances which are denied to the rest of His Majesty's subjects are not illegally made to Members of Parliament, he will afford the House an opportunity of discussing the question? The PRIME MINISTER (Mr. Asquith) Yes, Sir. This question is now engaging the attention of the Public Accounts Committee. No action will be taken until that Committee has reported. Mr. CASSEL Would the right hon. Gentleman endeavour to persuade the Chancellor of the Exchequer not to continue this practice, the propriety of which has been called in question by the Comptroller and Auditor-General; and which I think has been repeated since that attention was called to it, and will he also endeavour to induce the Chancellor of the Exchequer to take the opinion of the Law Officers on the matter? The PRIME MINISTER I think we had better wait until the Public Accounts Committee has reported. I am quite sure my right hon. Friend will not take any action meanwhile. Mr. CASSEL Will the right hon. Gentleman assure us we shall have an opportunity to discuss it? The PRIME MINISTER Yes, I think so. Customs And Excise Department (Promotion) 87. Mr. RONALD M'NEILL asked whether, under the scheme of amalgation of the Customs and Excise Departments, officers who originally entered the outdoor Customs by open competition, and afterwards successfully competed for and entered the Excise, will for purposes of seniority and promotion be placed in a position inferior to that of their contemporaries in the Customs who tried but failed to pass into the Excise; whether, as a result of the amalgamation, certain of these Excise officers are now in receipt of smaller salaries than are their Customs colleagues referred to; and whether the right hon. Gentleman will give instructions that seniority in the case of all these officers shall be reckoned as from the date of their original entry into the Customs, and that a new scale of salaries shall be fixed in which regard shall be had to the time spent and the experience gained by them in that branch of the amalgamated service? Mr. LLOYD GEORGE It may be the case that some of the few officers who in the past voluntarily left the Customs service and entered at the bottom of the Excise service are slightly worse off now than their former contemporaries who remained in the Customs; but I am afraid that I cannot adopt the suggestion made in the last paragraph of the question. Mr. R. M'NEILL Do not the facts apply to only a very few individuals who have a very serious grievance, and could not the right hon. Gentleman give them an answer? Mr. LLOYD GEORGE I will consider the matter. Land Purchase (Ireland) 92. Mr. JAMES O'KELLY asked the Chief Secretary for Ireland whether he is aware that the tenants of that portion of the Keogh estate situated in the parish of Kiltrustan and comprising the townlands of Moyglass, Ballygarden, and Skelp, more than six years ago signed purchase agreements, and have ever since been paying 4 per cent. on the purchase money; and whether he will use his influence to have the sales completed and those tenants relieved from paying that percentage? Mr. BIRRELL This estate is the subject of proceedings for sale direct by the owner to the tenants, and the Estates Commissioners have no power to deal with it except in its order of priority, and, having regard to the claims of other estates, they are not at present in a position to say when it will be reached. Ancient Order Of Hibernians (Cork) 93. Mr. NEWMAN asked whether a resolution was recently passed by the Cork division of the Ancient Order of Hibernians, and directed to be sent to the Press, the members of the city corporation, and other public bodies, condemning the action of the Lord Mayor in proposing a toast to His Majesty at the St. Patrick Day banquet and characterising the toast as the insulting toast of the King of England; and whether a copy of the resolution was sent him by order of the board of the ancient order; and, if so, what action the Chief Secretary intends to take in the matter? Mr. BIRRELL I understand that the statement in the newspapers that such a resolution was passed has been emphatically contradicted. No copy was sent to me. Mr. NEWMAN Would the right hon. Gentleman like to see the actual letter written by the secretary? Mr. BIRRELL I should be glad to see anything. Reinstatement Of Evicted Tenants (Ireland) 94. Mr. KELLY asked the Chief Secretary whether the Estates Commissioners are now able to give their decision with regard to the grants applied for by John Floyd, Patrick M'Laughlin, Patrick Gallen, Michael Carlin, and John Kelly, reinstated evicted tenants on the Delap estate, county Donegal; whether a settlement has been arrived at with regard to arrears of interest in the cases of Patrick M'Laughlin, John Floyd, and John Kelly; and is he aware that this matter has been pending for four years, that it is ten months since the inspector's report on these cases was received, and that the delay in these cases involves the withholding of grants from the tenants at the period when the grants could be employed to the best advantage? Mr. BIRRELL The Estates Commissioners inform me that an inspector will visit the lands at an early date to ascertain what arrangements the purchasing tenants are making to pay the land purchase annuities which are in arrear, and in satisfactory cases will arrange for the expenditure of the grants proposed to be made. As regards the latter part of the question, I would refer the hon. Member to the reply given to his question on this subject on the 9th of October last. Royal Irish Constabulary 95. Sir JOHN LONSDALE asked the Chief Secretary if he is aware that Royal Irish Constabulary pensioners have demanded the return of their subscriptions to the Constabulary Force Fund; and if he will state what reply has been returned to this request? Mr. BIRRELL Although some pensioners have asked that the fund should be wound up and their subscriptions returned to them, it is clear that the statutory claims of the widows and orphans of the subscribers must first be considered. As the hon. Baronet is aware, an actuarial inquiry is now being made into the state of the fund, and until it is complete no general reply can be sent to these demands. 96. Sir JOHN LONSDALE asked how many resignations from the Royal Irish Constabulary in Belfast have taken place during the last six months; and if he has any information with respect to the cause of these resignations? Mr. BIRRELL During the six months ended 31st March, 1913, seventeen constables resigned from the Belfast force. The reasons assigned for these resignations were ten to emigrate, four to better their position, one to take up another situation, one on account of disciplinary report, and one for private reasons. 97. Sir JOHN LONSDALE asked whether, having regard to the general increase in the cost of living, he will recommend a full inquiry into the pay and conditions of service of the Royal Irish Constabulary? Mr. BIRRELL The last increase of pay was granted to the rank and file of the constabulary in 1908, and as I have already stated it is too soon to reopen the question. Sir J. LONSDALE Will the right hon. Gentleman not consider, having regard to the cost of living, that it is almost time they did get an increase? Mr. BIRRELL Almost time, but not quite. Sir J. LONSDALE Quite time. Mr. BIRRELL I think not. Education Inquiry (Ireland) 98. Mr. O'DONNELL asked the Chief Secretary whether, seeing that the education inquiry will fail to achieve the main object for which it was appointed if it refuses to admit the Press to its sittings, he will represent to the Committee the desirability of allowing the Press to attend; and will he say who is responsible for the decision to exclude the Press. Mr. BIRRELL I have nothing to add to my previous answers to questions on this subject. If the Committee at any time thought fit to alter their decision so far as to admit the Press to its sittings it would, I think, give general satisfaction. Royal Field Artillery (Special Reserve) 99. Mr. ROBERT THOMPSON asked the Secretary of State for War why ammunition is not supplied to admit of officers of the Special Reserve Royal Field Artillery firing a series when attending practice camp; and whether he will consider the necessity of requiring that these officers should practise shooting? The SECRETARY of STATE for WAR (Colonel Seely) This question is now under consideration. Royal Small Arms Factory 100. Mr. NEWMAN asked the Secretary of State for War whether he will give the total number of employés at the Royal Small Arms Factory as on 31st March, 1913? The FINANCIAL SECRETARY to the WAR OFFICE (Mr. Harold Baker) The numbers amounted to 1,879 inclusive of the Accounts Branch and the Building Works Department. Army Estimates 102. Sir J. D. REES asked the Secretary of State for War whether the Estimates submitted to the House will be radically reconstructed in view of the information made public since their submission regarding the fleet of airships maintained by Germany, and the provision made in the extraordinary Estimates of that Empire for further augmenting and perfecting the aerial arm of the Service? Colonel SEELY I would refer the hon. Gentleman to the reply given by the Prime Minister to a similar question on Wednesday of last week. Mr. KING Will the right hon. Gentleman consult the Members of this House who have most experience in the gas bag business? Rhum, Eigg, And Canna (Telegraph Facilities) 11. Sir J. D. REES asked the Postmaster-General whether he is aware that the proprietors of Rhum, Eigg, and Canna paid £150 a year for seven years by way of guarantee to the Post Office for telegraphic facilities; if he will explain why £152 13s. 4d. is now demanded from them after they have for seven years been free from any levy of this description; and why they should pay for a wire used by the inhabitants, by travellers, by yachtsmen, by salvage crews, and for general purposes by all sorts and conditions of men? Mr. HERBERT SAMUEL I would refer the hon. Member to the reply given to his question on the 2nd instant on this subject. Mr. J. D. REES Is it not the fact that they have complied with all the requirements of the post office. Mr. HERBERT SAMUEL The question contains a number of argumentative points, but, as I stated in a previous answer, the matter is still being considered, and, in the meantime, no date has been fixed by the Department for the termination of the services. Mr. CATHCART WASON Will the right hon. Gentleman also consider the circumstances of other telegraphic offices? Mr. HERBERT SAMUEL I am aware that if a concession is made in the case of this telegraph office that claims will be made from a number of places. Mail Delivery (North Of Ireland) 15. Sir JOHN LONSDALE asked the Postmaster-General if his attention has been directed to the fact that frequent delays take place in the delivery of letters in Armagh and other towns in the North of Ireland, and that the Post Office officials profess inability to explain the cause; and if he will direct inquiry to be made whether the railway service is at fault and take steps to obviate delays which cause inconvenience to the public? Mr. HERBERT SAMUEL Application has recently been made for acceleration of the mails for Armagh and other places in the North of Ireland, and I am inquiring into the matter. During the month of March the arrival of mails from England viâ Holyhead and Kingstown has been somewhat later than usual, owing chiefly to bad weather, heavy Easter passenger traffic, and heavy transfers of American mails. Employment Of Children Act (Scotland) 16. Mr. HOARE asked the Secretary for Scotland the number of local authorities to which the Employment of Children Act, 1903, applies in Scotland, the number of these authorities who have put the Act into force, and the number of boys and girls, respectively, who have obtained licences for street trading? The SECRETARY for SCOTLAND (Mr. McKinnon Wood) The local authorities in Scotland which have power to make by-laws regulating street trading under the Employment of Children Act, 1903, are the town councils of burghs with a population above 7,000 and all county councils. So far by-laws have been made by six town councils out of fifty-four. None of the thirty-three county councils have put the Act into force. I have not information which would enable me to state the number of licences for street trading which have been issued. In addition, 31 school boards out of a total of 954 have made by-laws regulating ages and hours of employment. 17. Mr. HOARE asked how many local authorities have put in force that part of the Scotch Education Act, 1908, which allows them to compel boys and girls to attend continuation schools; and how many boys and girls are at present attending them under compulsion? Mr. McKINNON WOOD By-laws requiring the attendance of young persons at continuation classes have been confirmed in the case of eighteen school boards. The classes under these boards were attended, during session 1911–12, by 23,323 students, but I have no information as to how many of these were required to attend in terms of the by-laws. Rearming Ships 21. Mr. JOYNSON-HICKS asked the First Lord of the Admiralty whether it is the usual custom when ships are to be rearmed to pay them off before the manufacture of the new guns has been commenced; and, if not, why was this course adopted in the case of the eight scouts employed as flotilla cruisers paid off in August and September, 1912, and not yet rearmed? Mr. G. LAMBERT There is no usual custom in the matter. Each case must be judged on its merits. Five of these ships have been wholly and three partially re-tubed as well as rearmed. Woolwich Arsenal Football Club 27. Mr. BOWERMAN asked the President of the Board of Education whether the Board has been asked to consent to the leasing of a portion of the ground of the London College of Divinity, St. John's Hall, Highbury, to the Woolwich Arsenal Football Club; and, if so, whether the Board is satisfied that the condition of the trust deed would permit of a lease being granted for such a purpose? The PRESIDENT of the BOARD of EDUCATION (Mr. Pease) The answer to each part of the question is in the affirmative. Crossens Station (Lancashire And Yorkshire Railway) 31. Major WHITE asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he has received any communication with reference to the need of a footbridge to be erected by the Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway Company over their electric line at Crosscuts Station; and whether, in view of the danger and inconvenience to travellers caused by the lack of such facility, he proposes to take any action in the matter? The PRESIDENT of the BOARD of TRADE (Mr. Buxton) The attention of the Board of Trade was called to this matter last, year, and they communicated with the railway company. The company then explained that they did not consider a footbridge necessary, inasmuch as there was a road bridge at the end of the station with steps giving access to and from each platform. The Board of Trade have no statutory power to require a railway company to provide a footbridge for the use of passengers at a station after it has been inspected and opened for traffic. Land Ownership 46. Sir J. D. REES asked the Prime Minister whether it is the policy of the Government that there cannot be a severance between land ownership and direct political power? The PRIME MINISTER I do not know to what the hon. Member refers. Sir J. D. REES Would the right hon. gentleman read the speech of Lord Morley in another place last Session, in which he made this statement, and for that reason the question is asked if it had the concurrence of His Majesty's Government? The PRIME MINISTER Perhaps the hon. Member would let me have notice of that and send me a copy of the speech. Imperial Defence Committee 47. Mr. LONG asked the Prime Minister whether he has been able to enlarge the scope of the special inquiry by the Imperial Defence Committee, as suggested by the Committee of the National Defence Association in their letter to him of the 26th February last; and whether he is in a position to communicate the terms of reference to the House? The PRIME MINISTER It is not desirable to widen the scope of this particular inquiry, the object of which is to discover whether any new factors have arisen which necessitate a reconsideration, and, if so, in what respect, of the conclusions on the question of oversea attack on the British Isles arrived at by the Committee of Imperial Defence in 1908. The bearing of the results of the inquiry on the wider aspects of Imperial defence will be examined in due course. House Of Lords 48. Mr. OLIVER LOCKER-LAMPSON asked the Prime Minister whether he intends to introduce a Bill to provide for an effective Second Chamber this year; and whether he can make any statement now upon the matter? The PRIME MINISTER The answer to both parts of the question is in the negative. Labourers (Wages) 49. Mr. OLIVER LOCKER-LAMPSON asked the Prime Minister whether a statutory wage of £1 weekly to labourers is to form part of the Government's immediate legislative programme? The PRIME MINISTER I am not prepared to anticipate the announcement which will be made in due time of the policy of the Government with regard to land reform and kindred subjects. Members Of Government (Investments) 51. Mr. F. HALL asked the Prime Minister if he will give facilities for the introduction and passage of a Bill with the object of preventing Members of the Government in receipt of a salary speculating in stocks and shares, provided that they shall not be thereby precluded from investing in shares which they take up and pay for at the time of the investment and which are not purchased to be carried over in the expectation of a speculative profit? The PRIME MINISTER No, Sir. Mr. F. HALL Is the House to understand that the Prime Minister approves of Members of the Government gambling? Newspaper Lotteries 52. Mr. MACPHERSON asked the Prime Minister whether his attention has been drawn to competitions and schemes in the nature of lotteries in certain periodicals published in England; whether he is aware that these competitions and schemes are regarded as legal in England but as illegal in Scotland; and whether he will take such steps as are necessary to effect uniformity of treatment in the two countries? The SECRETARY of STATE for the HOME DEPARTMENT (Mr. McKenna) The matter is under consideration, and I am not at present in a position to say anything further.