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Commons Chamber

Volume 6: debated on Tuesday 2 April 1805

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House Of Commons

Wednesday, April 2.

Minutes

Mr. Quarme , the yeoman usher of the black rod, appeared at the bar, and summoned the house to attend in the house of lords, to hear the royal assent given by commission to several public and private bills. The Speaker, on his return, acquainted the house, that he had been in the house of peers, and heard the royal assent given by commission to the Newfoundland Judicature bill, the St. Sepulchre's Workhouse bill, and several private bills.— A message from the lords informed the house, that their lordships had agreed to the Cape of Good Hope Trade Regulation bill, without any amendment.—Mr. Kemp from the Commissioners of Excise, presented at the bar of the house, an account or estimate of all duties of Excise in Great Britain charged and outstanding on the 5th of January 1805, and on the 5th of January 1806, respectively; distinguishing the several articles, and temporary from permanent duties, so far as relate to the Revenue of Excise in England, which was ordered to lie upon the table, and to be printed.— On the motion of Mr. Vansittart, the Property Tax bill was read a second time and ordered to be committed to-morrow, the right hon. gent. stating that the committal to-morrow would be only pro formâ, and that it was intended to have the bill recommitted on the 21st inst.—The Tea Duty bill, and the Tobacco Duty bill, were severally read a second time, and ordered to be committed on Monday, the 14th instant.—The house, in a committee, went through the Loan bill, and the report was ordered to be brought up to-morrow.—Mr. Vansittart moved, that the house do resolve itself into a committee of Ways and Means; in which he moved, that a sum not exceeding 3 millions, be granted to his majesty by a loan on Exchequer bills, towards the supply of the present year; which was agreed to, and the report ordered to be received to-morrow. —Mr. Secretary Windham rose, and apologized to the house, for being under the necessity of postponing the bringing forward his motion, relating to the Military Establishments of the country, pursuant to the notice he had given, on account of the severe indisposition of his right hon. friend (Mr. Fox). He hoped, however, the delay would not be longer than to-morrow. He had just left his right hon. friend before he came down do the house, who had told that he found

himself considerably better than he was yesterday, and that he had great hopes of being able to attend to-morrow. The Speaker asked whether the right hon. secretary intended to fix his motion for to-morrow? To which question Mr. Windham answered, yes. General Tarleton then said, there was a motion of his, to the same purport, which stood for to-morrow, and which was entitled to priority, but that he would readily wave it. The motion of Mr. Windham was accordingly fixed for to-morrow. —Sir J. Duckworth's Annuity bill, was brought in, read a first time, and ordered to be read a second time to-morrow.—Dr. Duigenan brought up the report of the Irish First Fruits bill, which was agreed to, and the bill ordered to be read a third time to-morrow.—On the order of the day being read for the house to resolve itself into a Committee of Supply, it was, on the motion of sir J. Newport, ordered, that the several petitions which were presented to the house upon the 7th day of March last, and the 1st day of this instant April, relative to the English Protestant Schools in Ireland; the Foundling Hospital; the Hibernian Marine Society; the Hibernian School for Soldiers' Children; the Female Orphan House ; the Association for discountenancing Vice; the Westmorland Lock Hospital; the House of Industry; the Fever Hospital; the Lying-in Hospital; the Royal College of Surgeons; the Dublin Society for promoting Husbandry and other useful Arts; the Farming Society; the Corporation for paving, cleansing, and lighting the City of Dublin; the Commissioners for making wide and convenient Streets in Dublin; the Roman Catholic Seminary; the Parish Church of Saint Andrew; the Hospital founded by Dr. Richard Steevens; and the Commissioners of Charitable Donations and Bequests, be referred to the said committee. The house then went into a Committee of Supply, in which a variety of sums, were voted, according to annual custom, towards the support of the above charitable institutions in Ireland, and the report was ordered to be received to-morrow —Sir J. Newport moved, that the house do resolve itself into a committee of the whole house, to consider the acts which imposed a duty on Dwelling Houses, in Ireland; which being done, the hon. baronet said, there had been a duty of 3s. imposed in the last session of parliament, on Dwelling Houses in Ireland, which had been found oppressive on a great

number of the inhabitants, and had given considerable dissatisfaction, as there were many houses that did not pay at all, and as the duty was very trifling, it was thought necessary to repeal such part of the said act. He therefore moved, that the duty of 3 s. on certain Dwelling Houses in Ireland, do cease and determine. Mr. J. Fitzgerald said, he had foretold, when the duty alluded to was proposed, in the last session, the great dissatisfaction it would create in Ireland, and had, therefore, strenuously opposed it. He was very glad, therefore, to find, that his majesty's present ministers had determined to satisfy the minds of the people, by easing them of so irksome a burthen. The motion was then agreed to, and the report ordered to be received tomorrow.—The house then went into a committee of the whole house, to take into consideration the acts relative to Irish Bank Notes; in which, sir J. Newport stated, that by the act of the 43d of his majesty, the bank of Ireland had been placed, as to the issue of bank notes, nearly on the same footing with that of England; but, that by the 44th of the king, that provision had been repealed, and it was now thought expedient it should be revived; he therefore moved, that the act of the 43d of the king, relative to the issue of bank notes, in Ireland, repealed by the act of the 44th of his majesty, be revived and amended. The resolution was agreed to, and the report ordered to be received to-morrow.—Mr. Hawthorne brought up the report on the Ordnance Treasurer's bill, which was agreed to, and the bill ordered to be read a third time to-morrow.—Mr. C. Wynne brought up Copies of the Correspondence between the Irish Government and the Dublin Paving Board, pursuant to order; which were ordered to lie on the table.—He afterwards brought up the return of the Deputy Clerk of the Crown in Ireland, relative to the return of sir John Newport, bart. for the county of the city of Waterford, which stated, that the said return was received at the Office of the Clerk of the Crown, Dublin, on the 24th of March last, and was, by him, delivered into the General Post-Office, in Dublin, on the said 24th day of March, to be transmitted to the Crown-Office in England. Lord H. Petty, in the absence of his right hon. friend, Mr. Fox, gave notice, that he would, to-morrow, move, that the sheriff of the county of Waterford do attend at the bar of the house.—On the motion of lord Henry Petty, sir

John Newport was added to the committee for examining the joint accounts between Great Britain and Ireland.—Mr. Rose gave notice of his intention to bring forward, to-morrow, a motion of the utmost consequence with regard to the intercourse of America with our West-India colonies. This motion he was urged to press, in consequence of what he heard was going forward elsewhere, combined with a negociation of great importance which was known to be on the tapis.—The idea of enabling the governors of the West-India islands to suspend our navigation laws during the war, struck him to be a project so alarming, that he felt it his duty at once to move for the production of such documents as he knew were calculated to shew, not only the inexpediency, but the danger of such a proceeding.