Skip to main content

Written Answers

Volume 19: debated on Friday 29 July 1910

Civil Service (Compulsory Retirement).

asked the Secretary to the Treasury whether the conditions of appointment fixed by the Treasury in 1891 in respect to compulsory retirement at the age of sixty-five, and of counting for pension only one-half of unestablished service in the case of men writers or copyists promoted to abstractorships under Clause7 of the Order in Council of 4th June, 1870, remained the same for those who were promoted to the abstractor class in the years 1891 to 1894 and thereafter; and, if not, will he state the extent of the Treasury alteration in these two conditions, and when they were made?

I am net aware of any alterations of general application, but if the hon. Member is interested in any particular case the officer concerned can obtain the necessary information by referring to the head of the Department in which he is serving.

Irish Land Commission.

asked the Secretary to the Treasury whether he can state the number of Second Division clerks that have been appointed to the Irish Land Commission during the past six months and the number that will probably be appointed before the end of the present year; and whether he will undertake that no more appointments be made to the Second Division in this Department until the claims of assistant clerks eligible for promotion have been fully considered?

Since the 1st January, 1910, twenty-one clerks of the Second Division have been appointed to the Department in question, and there are at present five vacancies for such clerks; it is not probable that any further additions will be made to the authorised Second Division staff before the end of the present year. Full consideration is always given to the merit of assistant clerks serving in the Department in connection with vacancies arising in the Second Division, but the terms of the Order in Council only permit such promotions to be made exceptionally.

asked the Secretary to the Treasury whether he can state how many assistant clerks (new class) are at present employed in the Irish Land Commission; how many promotions have been made from that class to the Second Division during the past six months; whether there are at present over seventy assistant clerks who are eligible by length of service for promotion; and if the Treasury are prepared to sanction the promotion of any of these clerks who are recommended by the head of this Department; if not, whether he will state the circumstances under which such promotions are refused?

The number of assistant clerks (new class) at present employed in the Department in question is 155; no promotions have been made from that class to the Second Division during the past six months, but three assistant clerks (old class) have been so promoted during that period. The number of assistant clerks who are eligible for promotion so far as length of service is concerned is twenty. The Treasury will be prepared to consider any recommendations made by the head of the Department in accordance with the terms of the Order in Council.

Parliamentary Publications.

asked the Secretary to the Treasury if he will say by what authority certain Members of this House and journalists are given copies of Reports, Returns, and other Parliamentary publications, several days before the general body of private Members can obtain them; and whether he will enable all Members to obtain them at the same time and as soon as journalists receive them?

I beg to refer the hon. Member to the answer given by my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister to a question put by the hon. Member for Glasgow and Aberdeen Universities on 2nd September, 1909.

University Colleges and Universities.

asked what is the amount of the Treasury Grant allocated to the several university colleges and universities for the current year; and when the instalment of the Grant payable on 24th June last may be expected to be received by these institutions?

The recommendations of the Advisory Committee, on which the Grants made to university colleges are based, have not yet been received, but I hope that the matter may be dealt with at an early date.

Surveyor Assessors (Scotland).

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether surveyor assessors in Scotland and such of them as are also assessors of taxes are to receive the fees set out in the recently issued Parliamentary Paper in connection with the general valuation of land under Part I. of the Finance (1909–10) Act, 1910?

For surveyors of taxes the basis is not that which is set forth in the Parliamentary Paper (212) for assessors not in the permanent Civil Service.

Stamp Duty (Written Contracts).

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will state whether Stamp Duty chargeable as under Section 73, 10 Edw.7, will be levied at the old or new double rate where a written contract was entered into and a deposit Paid, on sa[...] prior to 29th April, 1910?

If the deed of conveyance is executed on or after 29th April, 1910, it is liable to Stamp Duty at the, rates imposed by the Finance (1909–10) Act, 1910.

Trustee Savings Banks.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether in 1880 it was ascertained that there was a deficiency in the assets of the Trustee Savings Banks, such deficiency being estimated by Mr. Gladstone as £3,565,000; whether, for the purpose of making good that deficiency, there was set up an annuity of £86,672; by what method of valuation it was ascertained that there existed a deficiency which it was deemed necessary to make good by a charge upon the taxpayers; if he will state whether the application of the same method to the assets of the Post Office Savings Bank and the Trustee Savings Banks would reveal deficiencies; and, if so, what would be the amount of these deficiencies in the assets of the Post Office Savings Bank and the Trustee Savings Banks respectively?

The capital deficiency on the Trustee Savings Banks Fund at 20th November, 1880, was estimated at £3,565,000 as stated, and an annuity of £83,672 was set up to replace the same. In arriving at the deficiency the securities held were valued on a 3¼ per cent. basis, in the manner laid down in Section 1 of the Savings Banks Act, 1880, 43–44 Vic., cap. 36. This method of valuation was changed to a 2¾ per cent. basis in 1891 and finally abandoned altogether in 1904 as regards trustee banks, and it has never been applied as regards the Post Office Savings Bank. I do not think its revival would serve any useful purpose.

Singleton Estate, County Louth.

asked the Chief Secretary whether he is aware that Miss Margaret Farrell and Mr. T. Corry, of Mell, Drogheda, county Louth, made application for the purchase of their holdings on the Singleton estate to the Estates Commissioners; whether he will explain why their application was refused; whether one of the applicants has been served with notice to quit by the middleman for making this application; if so, whether any action can be taken by the Commissioners to prevent the eviction and to extend the right to purchase to the sub-tenant; whether he will say if a bonus was paid to the land- lord on the sale of the estate; whether all the agricultural land on the same has been sold to the tenants; and, if not, whether steps can be taken to have the sale carried out?

The Estates Commissioners have inquired into the cases of the sub-tenants on this estate, and in the exercise of their discretion have decided not to declare Margaret Farrell and T. Corry to be direct tenants, under Section 15 of the Irish Land Act, 1903, of the lands in their occupation as sub-tenants. The Commissioners have no power to interfere in the matter of the legal proceedings referred to. The agricultural lands on this estate have been sold and vested in the purchasing tenants, and all moneys, including the bonus, paid to the persons entitled thereto.

Technical Schemes (Ireland).

asked what delays the Return of local contributions to technical schemes, and when will it be issued?

The Department are awaiting the necessary information from one of the local bodies in whose district the collection of the rate for the year ended 31st March last has not yet been finally closed. On the receipt of this in formation the required Return will be furnished without delay.

Old Age Pensions (Ireland).

asked the Chief Secretary if, in view of the fact that a number of old age pension income cases are being decided by the pension committee of appeal, he will say whether members of the staff of the committee in question have had any practical experience of farming in Ireland; and, if so, to what extent a qualification of this kind is held to be necessary where the interests of so many poor people are concerned?

The answer is in the affirmative. The Local Government Board and the Committee of Appeal have on their staff persons who have had a large practical experience in farming, and they find a qualification of this kind is most useful.

asked how the Local Government Board estimated the income of Miss Ellen M'Carthy, of Cahirhayes, Abbeyfeale, in the county of Limerick, number in pension officer's register A 39, to be more than would entitle her to a pension, having regard to the fact that the local sub-committee awarded her a pension of 5s. a week?

The Local Government Board inform me that this claimant derives an income from moneys invested in shares and on deposit in the Post Office Savings Bank. She has also a sum on deposit in the local bank which, in the opinion of the Board, might have been expected to bring her means beyond the statutory limit. The Board therefore disallowed her claim, in accordance with Section 4 (1) ( c ) of the Old Age Pensions Act.

asked the Chief Secretary whether he is aware that a man named Cornelius Curtin, of Knockfierna, Ballingarry, in the county of Limerick (Adare district), was granted the old age pension by the local committee on the recommendation of two men aged about eighty years; that he was in receipt of 5s. per week for over one year; and that, on the appeal of the pension officer, the Local Government Board deprived him of the pension as he was not on the Census Returns; and can he state when the Local Government Board will declare him to be eligible for the pension, he having no further proof to give of his age beyond that of the two men who declared him to be over seventy years?

The Local Government Board inform me that Curtin was unable to produce any evidence that he had attained the statutory age beyond the unsupported expressions of opinion by the two old men referred to. In the absence of satisfactory evidence of age it does not fall within the province of the Board to express an opinion as to when a claimant will attain the statutory age.

asked the Chief Secretary why James M'Ghee, Dooneal, Dromore West, county Sligo, and his wife have been deprived of the pensions under the Old Age Pensions Act which they received until May, 1910; and whether he will state the particulars on which the Local Government Board based their decision?

The Local Government Board inform me that on a question raised by the pension officer the sub-committee in October last cancelled M'Ghee's pension on the ground that his means exceeded the statutory limit. A fresh claim lodged by M'Ghee in January last was also disallowed by the sub-committee, and this decision was confirmed by the Board on an appeal by the claimant. In coming to their decision the Board considered the value of the stock and crops on the claimant's farm and the interest which he had in another holding. No appeal appears to have come before the Board in the case of Mrs. M'Ghee.

asked the Chief Secretary for Ireland whether he is aware that Ellen Havey, of Ballysooragh, Letterbreen, county Fermanagh, who was in receipt of an old age pension of 4s. per week for a year, was on appeal disqualified on the ground that her name could not be found in the Census of 1841 or 1851; and whether, having regard to the fact that she was born in England and cannot trace her place of birth, and that she produced her marriage certificate, which proves that she is now seventy-one years of age, the Local Government Board would reconsider her claim?

The hon. Member appears to be misinformed in this case. The Local Government Board inform me that in November last the pension committee cancelled Mrs. Havey's pension as she was only three years old when the Census of 1851 was taken. Mrs. Havey appealed, but produced no marriage certificate or any satisfactory evidence that she had attained the statutory age. The Board, therefore, confirmed the decision of the committee.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether, in view of the dissatisfaction in Ireland at the manner in which the incomes of small farmer pension claimants are estimated, he intends to include in the amending Old Age Pensions Bill any provisions giving jurisdiction to the county court for each district before which applicants can appear personally to determine appeals in such cases; whether in the contemplated charging of local rates with the cost of poor relief to paupers who will on 1st January next become entitled to pensions, it is intended to have a quarterly revision of the amount assessed on each area in order to strike off any portion thereof representing ex-pauper pensioners who have died in the meantime; if so, whether such revision will include allowances for the interval between any such death and the next ensuing such revision and also for the general prolongation of life among pensioners by reason of the improved standard of living made possible by the pension; whether he is aware that the cost to Irish local rates of the proposed alteration of the terms of the existing Act has been estimated as at least £120,000 per annum; and what is the official estimate of such cost?

The answer to the first question is in the negative. As regards the contribution by the guardians, it is intended that this should be a gradually diminishing contribution as the persons for whose maintenance the guardians are now responsible die off. I am not, however, yet in a position to give details. The amount of the charge of which Irish ratepayers will be relieved by the transfer of paupers to the pension list is estimated at about £130,000, and the amount of the contribution will certainly not, exceed, and will probably be less than, this sum.

King v. Farrell.

asked the Attorney-General for Ireland if he can state on whose advice he acted in refusing to allow the case of the King v. Farrell and others to be tried at the recent summer assizes for the county of Longford; whether he is aware that one of the traversers challenged the Crown to put a jury of any kind he chose in the box to try the case; and whether, before deciding to change the venue, he personally was con- suited and personally directed the motion for adjournment to be made?

I made full inquiries regarding the prospect of obtaining a fair and impartial trial of the case referred to at the recent summer assizes for the county of Longford, and as the result I was satisfied that an adjournment of the case was necessary in the interests of justice. I personally directed the motion to be made.

Agrarian Outrages (Ireland).

asked the Chief Secretary whether he will state the number of agrarian outrages of an indictable character reported by the police throughout Ireland in the year 1909 and the first half of 1910, specifying the totals under the four main headings (appearing in Parliamentary Paper, No. 70, of 1909) of offences against the person, offences against property, offences affecting the public peace, and other offences?

presented the following Return of Agrarian Outrages of an indictable character reported throughout Ireland in the year 1909 and the first half of 1910:—

Offences. 1909. First half of 1910. Offences against the Person. Homicide— Murder 1 … Manslaughter … … Firing at the Person 15 7 Rape … … Assault with Intent to Murder … … Administering Poison … … Conspiracy to Murder … … Assault on Police … … Aggravated Assault 4 … Assault endangering Life 3 … Assault on Bailiffs and Process Servers 1 … Cutting or Maiming the Person … … Other Offences … … 24 7 Offences against Property. Incendiary Fire and Arson 43 14 Burglary and Housebreaking … … Highway Robbery … … Robbery … … Taking and Holding forcible Possession 4 2 Cattle Stealing 2 1 Sheep Stealing … 1 Illegal Shearing of Sheep … … Killing, Cutting, or Maiming Cattle 20 22 Sacrilege … … Levying Contributions … … Demand of Money … … 69 40 Offences affecting the Public Peace. Demand or Robbery of Arms … … Riots and Affrays 1 … Administering Unlawful Oaths … … Threatening Letters or Notices 178 113 Intimidation otherwise 32 15 Pound Breach … … Attacking Houses 1 … Resistance to Legal Process … 2 Injury to Property 45 27 Firing into Dwellings 38 23 Injury to Places of Worship … … Rescuing Prisoners … … Other Offences 6 5 301 185 Other Offences. Injury to, or Attempt to Injure Railway Trains or Highways … … Injury to Telegraph … … Perjury … … Conspiracy 3 … 3 … Totals 397 232

asked the Chief Secretary whether he will state, in continuation of the table given in a Written Answer on 19th February, 1909, the number of agrarian outrages reported by the police in Ireland for the year 1909 and the first half of 1910 and the number of threatening letters and notices included therein?

The following table gives the information required:—

Period. Threatening Letters and Notices. Other Offences. Total. Year 1909 178 219 397 First six months 1910; 113 119 232

Land Purchase (Ireland).

asked the Chief Secretary if he can say when the farm of Patrick K. Danaher, of Woodcliffe, Longhill, in the county of Limerick, at Lisready, in the county of Clare, the property of E. B. Buck, Land Purchase Account, 7,646, will be vested in the tenant purchaser?

This estate will be dealt with in order of priority, but the Estates Commissioners are unable at present to say when the holdings of the estate will be vested in the purchasing tenants.

Ellis Estate, County Limerick.

asked what is the cause of the delay in completing the sale of the Ellis estate, at Abbeyfeale, in the county of Limerick, the originating application of which was lodged in August, 1905?

This estate will be dealt with in order of priority. When its turn is reached the proceedings for sale will be expedited as far as practicable.

John Ryan Estate, Dundalk.

asked the Chief Secretary for Ireland whether he can state the number of years the estate of John Ryan, Dundalk, situate in the townlands of Glenbeg and Gurtatoodar, near Upper-church, county Tipperary, are in the Court of Chancery; whether he can state if the estate is solvent; whether the judge has ordered a sale of the estate under Section 40 of the Land Act, 1896; whether the tenants have applied to the Court of Chancery for leave to purchase their holdings; whether the Estates Commissioners will acquire the estate in order to sell their holding to the tenants; and whether he can state the address of the present owner or persons who are in receipt of the profits of the estate?

The Registrar of the Land Judge's Court informs me that there are no proceedings pending before the Land Judge in reference to this estate, nor do the records of the Court show that any such proceedings were ever instituted. Neither the Land Commission nor the Estates Commissioners have any information as to the estate.

Longford Summer Assizes.

asked the Attorney-General for Ireland whether any instructions were given by him to the sheriff of the county of Longford to issue summonses to persons as grand jurors in the county of Longford for the Longford Summer Assizes who neither reside in nor have property qualification in that county; whether he is aware that in the calling of the list the Catholic grand jurors were, with six exceptions, not called on the panel at all; whether he is aware that of the twenty-three grand jurors sworn at least ten were men who had a personal animus against one of the traversers in the case of the King v. Farrell and others; and whether it is his intention to proceed on a bill found by a grand jury composed of a majority of the political opponents of the defendants?

I gave no directions to the high sheriff, and had no communications with him regarding the summoning of the grand jurors for the recent assizes for county Longford. I am informed that there was no departure whatever from the regular practice in the calling of the list. So far as I can ascertain, there is no foundation for the suggestion that members of the grand jury had a personal animus against any of the traversers. It is my intention to proceed on the indictment found.

Purchase Agreements (Ireland).

asked the Chief Secretary of Ireland whether he will state, in continuation of the table given in a Written Answer on 28th October, 1908, for each half-year from 1st May, 1908, to 30th April, 1910, inclusive, the number of purchase agreements lodged with and the amount of loans for which application has been made to the Estates Commissioners, and the area covered by these applications?

The following Statement gives the particulars asked for in respect of estates sold by landlords direct to tenants under the Irish Land Acts, 1903 and 1909:—

Period. No. of purchase agreemnts lodged. Amount of loans applied for. Area (approximate). Irish Land Act, 1903. £ Half-year ending: 31st Oct., 1908 61,421 18,301,413 1,488,346 30thApl., 1909 6,524 1,871,586, 152,205 31st Oct., 1909 4,621 1,092,763 88,868 Irish Land Act, 1909. 3rd Dec., 1909 to 30th June, 1910 2,379 611,226 78,080

The great increase in the number of applications lodged during the half-year ended 31st October, 1908, as explained in the last year's annual report of the Estates Commissioners, was due to the very large number of sales entered into during the period immediately preceding the revision on 24th November, 1908, by the Treasury under Section 48 (3) of the Irish Land Act, 1903, of the percentage payable as bonus to vendors out of the Land Purchase Aid Fund, no less than 38,345 purchase agreements applying for advances amounting to £10,929,285 having been lodged in the month of October, 1908, alone.

Tattenclave National School (Ireland).

asked whether the Commissioners of National Education in Ireland endeavoured, in the year 1908, to close Tattenclave national school (Roll No. 13,485, Circuit 6 B); and, if not, will he cause inquiries to be made as to the reason for various measurements of the distances between the school in question and Dawson national school made by both the local inspector and the chief inspector?

The Commissioners of National Education inform me that in 1908 the average attendance at this school fell to twenty, and the teacher left. The question then arose whether Grants should not, be cancelled in accordance with the Commissioners' rules, but it was found on investigation that the particular rule under which the question arose did not apply, as there was no suitable school at which the pupils could attend within two miles distance.

Reinstatement Application (Dobbs Estate, County Louth).

asked whether the Estates Commissioners will reconsider the claim of John M'Ardle, evicted tenant, 34, Park Street, Dundalk, and restore him to a holding on untenanted land that may become available within their possession?

The Estates Commissioners, after inquiry, decided to take no action regarding John M'Ardle's application for reinstatement in a share of mountain grazing on the Dobbs estate, county Leith. They will, however, consider his case if proceedings for sale of this estate under the Land Purchase Acts are instituted before them.

Royal University, Ireland.

asked the Chief Secretary to the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland whether the income of certain professors of the Queen's Colleges, Cork and Galway, who were fellows and examiners in the late Royal University, has been seriously reduced by their acceptance of equivalent offices in the new University College; whether they have the same duty of examining students in the National University as they had in the Royal University of Ireland, whether the compensation awarded by the Joint Commission is only a small fraction of the loss sustained; and if he will grant a Return of their incomes from collegiate and university sources for the last seven years?

I am informed that six of the professors of Queen's College, Cork, and Queen's College, Galway, who were Fellows of the late Royal University, have been awarded by the Dublin and Belfast Commissioners, acting jointly, compensation for loss of their offices in that university, their salaries as professors not being equivalent to their combined salaries as professors and fellows before the passing of the Irish Universities Act. The compensation has been estimated in accordance with the provisions of the Superannuation Act, 1859, and on the assumption that the fellowships, the tenure of which was for a period of five years, were renewable while the holders held office as professors, but is less than the salaries attached to the office of Fellow of the Royal University. The awards were confirmed by the Lord Lieutenant in Council in four cases in which appeals were taken. The Dublin and Belfast Commissioners, acting jointly, decided that examiners whose appointments were for one year were not entitled under the Act to compensation for loss of office. This decision was confirmed on appeal by the Lord Lieutenant in Council. Professors of the University Colleges of Cork and Galway may, under the statutes of those colleges, at their option be continued at their previous salaries with additional remuneration from the National University of Ireland for the examination of student members of the colleges, and also for the examination of matriculated students of the late Royal University of Ireland who are not members of the colleges. The statutes of the university provide that "a university professor or university lecturer who at the time of the coming into operation of the Act was a professor or lecturer in the Queen's College, Galway, shall not be bound by virtue of his office as a professor or lecturer of the university to examine students other than those of the constituent college in which he shall be a university professor or a university lecturer." The Return asked for in the concluding paragraph of the question would not appear to be of sufficient public utility to justify the expenditure of time and labour which would necessarily be involved in its preparation.

Contagious Vaginitis (Ireland).

asked if the Department of Agriculture will circulate instructions for the information of stock raisers in Ireland for dealing with contagious vaginitis?

The Department of Agriculture inform me that it is not possible to issue such instructions pending the results of further inquiry and investigation.

Kinlea Estate, West Clare.

asked whether in view of the local disturbance, increased burden to the rates, and misery in many families that has occurred in regard to what is known as the Kinlea estate, West Clare, the Congested Districts Board will deal with the estate with the least possible delay, and so bring about a solution of the question, for which the whole district is anxiously waiting?

The Congested Districts Board inform me that the Vesey Fitzgerald estate, county Clare, which includes the townland of Kinlea has been offered for sale to the Board who will have the lands inspected as soon as practicable with a view to making an offer for purchase.

asked the Chief Secretary for Ireland whether he been has informed that at a recent seizure of effects on the Kinlea estate, West Clare, the cattle of the tenants were driven off by the police; that the son of one of the tenants was assaulted by a police officer; and whether he will take steps to ensure that there shall be no repetition of such illegalities?

The police authorities inform me that on the occasion in question the police took no part in the seizure of the cattle, but only afforded the necessary protection to the sheriff and his assistants. The police are not aware of any assault committed on a son of one of the tenants, and no complaint of such an assault has been made to them.

Clonaslee Petty Sessions (School Attendance Orders).

asked the Chief Secretary whether his attention has been drawn to the decision of the magistrates at the Clonsalee petty sessions on 8th July, Mr. Dunsterville, resident magistrate, presiding, dismissing three applications for school attendance orders at the suit of the Mountmellick district school attendance committee, on the grounds that such cases can only be brought at the end of each half-year, namely, 30th June and 31st December; and whether, in view of the usual petty sessions and police-court procedure under the Compulsory School Attendance Act of 1892, he will say whether he proposes to take any and, if any, what action in this matter?

I have no power to interfere with the judicial decisions of magistrates. The usual legal remedies are, I presume, open to any parties who consider themselves aggrieved by the decision referred to.

Allotments Act (Extension to Ireland).

asked the Chief Secretary whether he was aware that the House of Commons unanimously passed a resolution in favour of extending the Allotments Act to Ireland; and whether he would consider the advisability of bringing in a measure to carry out that resolution during the winter Session?

I have nothing to add to the reply given on 16th July, 1906, by my predecessor to a similar question asked by the hon. Member.

Labourers' Cottages (Ireland).

asked the Chief Secretary whether he could state the number of labourers' cottages already built and occupied in Ireland; and how many are in the course of construction?

The Local Government Board inform me that on 31st March last 29,186 cottages had been built, of which 28,994 were occupied. Six thousand two hundred and forty-nine cottages are in course of construction.

asked why the Local Government Board inspector refused to grant Michael Hartnett a cottage on the lands of Lackenagooneeny, Doon, county Limerick, although the local councils were unanimous in granting the cottage to Hartnett; and, having regard to the fact that Hartnett and his son have constant work just beside where this cottage is being built, will the Local Government Board see their way to alter the inspector's report and give this cottage to Hartnett, and not have him transferred to one three miles distant, where he will scarcely be able to get any work?

The Local Government Board inform me that the site selected for the proposed cottage by the rural district council was rejected by the inspector as unsuitable. He, however, included in his Order another site in the same electoral division, but on appeal a further change was ordered by the County Court. The Board have no power to authorise the acquisition of another site except with the consent of all the parties interested in the lands affected.

National School Teachers (Ireland).

asked the Chief Secretary whether he is aware that Mr. Thomas Gill, national school teacher, of Bolerin national school, Garvagh, county Derry, resides in a public-house; whether this is contrary to Rule No. 88a of the Commissioners of National Education; and what steps, if any, he intends to take with reference to the matter?

The Commissioners of National Education inform me that teachers are forbidden to reside in a public-house. The Commissioners are not aware whether Mr. Thomas Gill resides in a public-house, but inquiries will be made regarding the matter.

asked how many assistant teachers in Irish national schools have received notice of withdrawal of salary owing to a decline in the average attendance, a circumstance over which they have no control, in the year ended 31st March, 1910; and how many of these teachers have actually lost their positions in the same period from the same cause?

The Commissioners of National Education inform me that it would take some time to prepare the information asked for, and it will not be possible to furnish an answer to the hon. Member's question before the Adjournment of the House.

asked the Chief Secretary for Ireland how many assistant teachers are employed in the Irish national schools; how many of these are in a higher grade than third; how many have received promotion in the year ended 31st March, 1910; whether the conditions on which such promotions will be granted are anywhere stated in the Commissioners' Rules and Regulations; and, if not so stated, will he suggest to the National Board the desirability of stating them, so as to foster ambition in and give a direction to the abilities of this large body of teachers?

The Commissioners of National Education inform me that there are 4,884 assistant teachers employed in Irish national schools, of whom 104 are in a higher grade than third. Three assistants were promoted in grade in the year ended 31st March, 1910. There are no special regulations for the promotion of assistants in the Commissioners' Rules, and the Commissioners do not consider it necessary that there should be such regulations.

Government Employment (Ireland).

asked what was the total number of persons, not at the time of appointment in permanent Government employment, with salaries exceeding £100 a year, and who did not, previously to their appointment, pass an examination by the Civil Service Commissioners; and what was the total annual value of their salaries?

In order to reply to this question it would be necessary to communicate with every Department in Ireland. The notice given by the hon. Member has not been sufficient to enable this to be done.

Vaccination Statistics (Ireland).

asked the Chief Secretary for Ireland whether he can furnish a Return bringing the table on page 257 ( c ) of the Royal Commission on Vaccination Report up to date, the Return to show for each year from 1889 to 1909, both years inclusive, the number of births in Ireland, the number of persons vaccinated by the dispensary medical officers, the number vaccinated who were born since 1st January, 1864, the number vaccinated who were born before 2nd January, 1864, and the number of deaths from small-pox, including chicken-pox?

It is not possible to differentiate, in the number of persons vaccinated, between those who were born since 1st January, 1864, and before 2nd January, 1864. It would not therefore be possible to give a Return in the form which the hon. Member suggests.

Police (County Limerick).

asked the Chief Secretary for Ireland whether he is aware that close upon 200 police attended at Fedamont, county Limerick, on Sunday, for the purpose of having a day's recreation; who is responsible for having such an influx of these constables into a peaceful district, or is it because the lands about which the dispute exists in the district belong to County Inspector Chatterton, county Louth; and will the cost of these policemen be borne by the ratepayers of county Limerick, or will Mr. Chatterton and those associated with him in the land jobbing pay for the presence of the police which they alone are responsible for?

The Inspector-General informs me that a force of 150 police was assembled at Fedamore on the 24th instant for duty in connection with an intimidatory demonstration proposed to be held there. The county inspector referred to has no interest in the lands which are the subject of the dispute. No charge for the extra police will fall on the ratepayers.

Middleton Estate, County Longford.

asked the Chief Secretary for Ireland whether his attention has been called to the action of the United Irish League against Mr. Michael Magan, of Killashee, county Longford, culminating in a demonstration against him and his mother when returning from Mass; whether he is aware that Mr. Magan is endeavouring to carry out the policy of the Government by enlarging the farms of tenants on the Middleton estate; and what steps does he propose to take in the matter?

Proceedings have been instituted against six persons in connection with the occurrences referred to in the question. The matter is sub judice, and I cannot therefore make any statement in reference to it.

Revision Courts, County Tyrone

asked the Chief Secretary for Ireland whether in the selection of the place for holding the revision court for the polling district of Kildress, county Tyrone, regard was had to the facts that Corvanagahan is nearly two miles nearer the bulk of the voters and claimants than Dunamore; that many people whose houses are geographically nearer to Dunamore are by road nearer to Corvanagahan; and that the revising barrister and professional men attending the court will have to pass Corvanagahan to reach Dunamore; is not the selection of Corvanagahan as the polling station evidence that it is the most convenient place for all parties; and whether he will reconsider the decision to hold the revision court at Dunamore?

I have nothing to add to my reply to the hon. Member's question on this subject on the 25th inst.

Prosecutions (Ireland).

asked the Chief Secretary for Ireland whether he is now in a position to inform the House if the constabulary have yet succeeded in arresting, and whether any sentences have been passed upon, any persons connected with the following offences to which his attention has already been drawn: The firing at Mr. R. D. O'Brien and an official of the Land Commission, near Ennis, on 12th February; the firing at a man named O'Dwyer in county Clare; the driving of cattle belonging to Mr. P. Connell off the lands of Ballyvade on 11th February; the shooting of a bullock belonging to Mr. Stephen O'Halloran; driving cattle belonging to Mr. M. Hackett in the neighbourhood of Clonaster, Queen's County, on 25th February; the hanging on a tree of three sheep belonging to a grazier on the farm of Mrs. Clarke, Craigabbey; four cattle-drives off grazing farms in the Ballyvaughan district, near Gort, between 13th and 26th March; driving cattle off the farm of Mr. M. Murphy, near Athenry, on 25th March; driving cattle and lambs off a farm held by Mr. W. Bathersby, near Orristown, on 17th March, and cutting off the flesh of the tails of three bullocks; the outrages upon property for which awards were given at Limerick Quarter Sessions on 2nd April; the shooting and blinding of a pony belonging to a farmer named McCann, at Ballycushen, near Corofin; the disorderly scenes and cattle drives on the Pollock estate, county Galway, on 16th and 17th April; the malicious injuries to live stock and other properties for which compensation was awarded at Ennis Quarter Sessions on 15th April; the burning of the out-offices and property of Mr. M'Garry, Irishtown, in January last; the damage to the property of Mr. W. O'Brien, on 16th January, at Sandyhill; the cattle-drive on the estate of Captain H. H. Jones, Rathlea, Ballina, on 10th April; the driving of cattle belonging to Peter Tarpey, of Ballyglass, county Galway, on 16th April, off his farm through a gap maliciously made in the wall; the shooting of a cow belonging to District Inspector O'Neill, at Gorey, on 4th June; the driving of cattle belonging to Mr. Gorman, and his herd Matthew Quigley, off a farm near Ballymote on 20th May; shooting a mare belonging to Martin M'Gann, of Gortadene; shooting a heifer belonging to Mr. Thomas Crowe; painting the cattle and knocking down a stone wall belonging to Thomas and Bridget M'Gann; the injury to bullocks belonging to Lord Inchiquin by driving; the knocking down of walls belonging to Mr. Thomas Roche; the injury to bullocks belonging to Mr. James Reynolds by driving; the shooting at and killing the horse of Thomas Collins while driving near Athenry, on 17th June; the burning of a haggard belonging to Mr. M. J. Dillon; the firing and wounding Patrick Daly, on 19th June, near Ennis, county Clare; driving the cattle belonging to Mr. John Coyne and other graziers off the lands of Miss Somerville at Glanarail, on 23rd May, and cutting off some of their tails; driving the cattle belonging to Mr. Jeeves and Mr. Bryan Farrell at Streams-town, Moate, on 1st June; the injury to cattle belonging to Mr. John O'Connor, of Mountcool; the mutilation of a stallion ass belonging to a man named Mahon in the Athenry district; and the injury to cattle belonging to Michael Finn, of Castleturbin, Athenry?

No person has yet been made amenable in any of the cases referred to in the hon. Member's question.

Population of Ireland (1902 to 1909).

asked what was the estimated population of Ireland at the middle of each of the years 1902 to 1909, both inclusive?

The estimated population of Ireland at the middle of each of the years 1902 to 1909, both inclusive, was as follows:—

1902 … … … 4,432,274 1903 … … … 4,413,658 1904 … … … 4,402,182 1905 … … … 4,391,565 1906 … … … 4,388,006 1907 … … … 4,377,064 1908 … … … 4,371,455 1909 … … … 4,371,570

Public Health (Ireland) Bill.

asked the Chief Secretary to the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland whether, in view of his general approval of the Public Health (Ireland) Bill, 1910, and the almost unanimous opinion in favour of such legislation amongst all sections of Irish Members of Parliament, urban councils in Ireland, and the Local Government Board (Ireland), he will either arrange for facilities for discussing this Bill or else himself introduce legislation early in the Autumn Session dealing with the conduct and management of public slaughter-houses and the proper inspection of meat?

I should be very glad if by agreement I should be in a position to introduce legislation on this subject during the Winter Session.

School Attendance (Ireland).

asked the Chief Secretary to the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland if, in view of the fact that the marriage signatures in Ireland by means of a cross or mark are six times more frequent than in other parts of the United Kingdom, he will urge upon the Education Commissioners the necessity for making compulsory the present voluntary powers of local authorities to enforce universal elementary education throughout the country?

As I have already stated, I am by no means convinced that it would be expedient at present to extend the provisions for compulsory attendance at schools in Ireland.

Viceregal Commission on Irish Railways.

asked the Chief Secretary whether he will consider the advisability of adopting the recommendation of the Majority Report of the Viceregal Commission on Irish Railways with the view of legislation to carry it into effect during the Winter Session?

The Report in question will receive my careful consideration, but I am not in a position at present to make any statement as to possible legislation in the matter.

Royal University, Ireland,

asked the Chief Secretary to the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland whether several Fellows of the late Royal University, Ireland, have not yet received their salaries for the period between 10th October, 1909, and 1st November, 1909; whether these salaries are really debts of the late University, and when it is intended they should be paid?

This is a matter for the authorities who are responsible for these payments under the Irish Universities Act, 1908. I understand that all who have made application have been paid.

Royal Irish Constabulary.

asked the Chief Secretary if he would state why District-Inspector Price, of Newmarket, was not in uniform on the night of 26th May last, the date of the Newmarket shooting; if it is according to regulations to have a district-inspector discharge revolver shots himself and order his men to do likewise whilst in civilian dress; and what explanation does the district-inspector give of his remaining at a tea-party after two respectable shopkeepers informed him that his presence was needed down the street, although it is admitted by the inspector-general that he was on duty on that day?

The inspector-general informs me that when this sudden emergency arose the district-inspector was not on duty with his men; and that he acted properly in at once attending to it without waiting to put on uniform. The district-inspector's guests had departed before the shopkeepers referred to called upon him.

asked the Chief Secretary to the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland if he will state whether a sub-constable from Meelin station went to the police station at Newmarket on 26th May and informed the police that there was a serious assault taking place in the town; and if he will give a copy of the entries for that day as reported in the police journal or day book?

I am informed that on the date in question a constable from Meelin was sent by the local police to report at the barrack that a disturbance was taking place in the town. A party of police turned out and restored order. The entries in the Barrack Diary are confidential, and I do not propose to furnish copies of them.

asked how many independent witnesses were interviewed by the county inspector during the inquiry into the conduct of the police on 9th June; and if any of the witnesses interviewed had previously acted as jurors at the inquest held to ascertain the cause of the death of Cornelius Regan at Newmarket on 26th May last.

I am infomed that the county inspector interviewed two independent witnesses in connection with the occurrences referred to. Neither of them had previously acted as jurors at, the inquest.

Sale of Lord Louth's Estate, Louth.

asked whether, in the case of the estate of Lord Louth, the Estates Commissioners will take into their favourable consideration the claims of the Conlons, Balloran, Louth; and whether he can state what the Estates Commissioners propose to do in the matter?

The Estates Commissioners inform me that when this estate is being dealt with in order of priority the cases of any tenants who have not signed purchase agreements will be fully considered.

Hastings Estate, County Donegal.

asked whether the Estates Commissioners have had under consideration since 1903 applications from Mrs. Mary Ann Eccles, of Ash-grove, Castlefinn, county Donegal, for reinstatement on the farm of 102 acres on the Hastings estate, county Donegal, from which her late father, Joseph Mortland, had been evicted; whether her application has been finally refused; and, if so, whether the fact that she inherited a small farm of 12 acres through her mother weighed with the Commissioners in their decision?

I have nothing to add to my reply to the question on this subject asked by the hon. Member for East Donegal on 13th April last.

Charles MacDonnell Estate, County Clare.

asked the Chief Secretary whether his attention has been called to the case of Mrs. Collins, of Furroor, Kilkee, West Clare, estate of Charles MacDonnell, Esquire, of Newhall, Ennis, county Clare, whose husband was evicted some 21 years ago; whether he is aware that two years after the eviction the present occupier, Denis Collins, took possession and is still holding this farm; that about three years ago Dennis Collins consented to hand over the farm to the Estates Commissioners, with a view to the reinstatement of Mrs. Collins, of Furroor; that the negotiations broke down owing to the terms not satisfying Denis Collins, who, however, is now said to be willing to accept what was then offered by the inspector; and that there is a strong public opinion in favour of Mrs. Collins, of Furroor; and whether, under these circumstances, negotiations will again be undertaken to have her restored to the farm?

The Estates Commissioners have inquired into and considered the application of Mrs. Nora Collins for reinstatement in a holding formerly occupied by her late husband and now in the possession of her nephew, and they have decided not to take any action in the matter. They have, however, noted her name for consideration in the allotment of any untenanted land which may be acquired by them.

Hebburn-on-Tyne Graving Dock.

asked the First Lord of the Admiralty whether he is aware that the large graving dock owned by Messrs. Robert Stephenson and Company, Limited, Hebburn-on-Tyne, is at present the only private dock on the East Coast with blocks and shores to Admiralty requirements; and, if so, whether the Admiralty will consider the advisability of making arrangements so as to secure the use of the said dock for vessels of His Majesty's Navy, and thereby prevent, the possibility of this dock being dismantled and made unsuitable for docking vessels of His Majesty's Navy?

On the assumption that the question refers to ships of latest design, the reply to the first part is in the affirmative. With regard to the second part of the question, no necessity is seen at present for making any such special arrangements.

Foreign Naval Construction.

asked whether the First Lord of the Admiralty had any information as to the ordering of the two battleships sanctioned for the United States this year; and, if so, when they were laid down and where they are being built?

The Navy Department of the United States have not yet called for tenders for the two battleships sanctioned this year. It is not expected that the contracts will be placed before December.

asked whether a battleship for Brazil has recently been commenced as the yard of Messrs. Armstrong, Whitworth and Co., Elswick; and, if so, when was she laid down, and what are her principal characteristics?

The keel of a battleship for Brazil was laid down by Messrs. Armstrong, Whitworth and Co., in February last at Elswick. Since then work has been suspended, and it is understood the design of the ship is about to be changed, but there is no information as to what the change is to be.

asked when the "Espana" and "Alfonso III." were laid down at Ferrol; and whether he has any information as to the intention to proceed with the "Jaime I.," the third battleship of the class?

The keel of the "Espana" was laid on 5th December, 1909, and of the "Alfonso Tréce" on 23rd February, 1910. The "Jaime Primero" is not to be ready until 1916. There has been no direct information as to the Spanish Government's intention to proceed with this vessel, but her construction has been authorised and contracted for.

asked whether the First Lord of the Admiralty received official information to the effect shat two "Dreadnoughts" are being constructed by the Stabilimento Tecnico at Trieste; whether almost all the Austrian warships are constructed by the Stabilimento Tecnico; and whether he has received any information to the effect that two other "Dreadnoughts" are to be laid down by Austria next year?

I have received no official information to the effect that two "Dreadnoughts" are being constructed by the Stabilimento Tecnico at Trieste, where the greater number of Austro-Hungarian war vessels are built. I have received no information to the effect that two other "Dreadnoughts" are to ha laid down by Austria-Hungary next year, beyond Press reports.

Admiralty Appointments.

asked what was the total number of persons, not at the time of appointment in permanent Government employment, who had been appointed since January, 1906, to positions in his Department, other than naval positions, with salaries exceeding £100 a year, and who had not previously to their appointment passed an examination by the Civil Service Commissioners; and what was the total value of their salaries?

The number of persons is 109. The total value of their salaries is £25,800 per annum.

Heavy Gun Construction (Number of Establishments).

asked the names of the establishments in the United Kingdom which are capable of constructing heavy gun mountings for the latest types of battleships or armoured cruisers; and what are the present capabilities of annual output of each establishment in this respect?

The answer to the first part of the question is—Elswick, Vickers, Sons, and Maxim, and the Coventry Ordnance Works. It would not be proper for me to reply as to my opinion of the productive capacity of individual firms.

Battleship Construction (Programme).

asked if it is still intended that the five battleships approved for this year's programme shall not be laid down till January or March next year; and whether it is his intention to ask for a Supplementary Estimate for increasing the sum of £321,114 provided in this year's Navy Estimates as the total amount to be expended on the five battleships approved?

The reply to the first part of the question is in the affirmative, and to the second part in the negative.

Territorial Force Training ("Neptune" and "Orion" Workmen).

asked whether men working upon the battleships "Neptune" and "Orion" were refused permission to go on leave in order to attend camp and carry out their training in the Territorial Force; whether it is customary to allow dockyard men fourteen days' leave per annum; whether men belonging to the Territorial Force who have already been granted leave have had it cancelled within the last few days; whether he will state the number of men belonging to the Territorial Force who were refused leave; and whether he is aware that the intimation refusing leave was only received at a late hour and has caused a serious depletion of strength in each unit going to camp?

Yes; some men in Portsmouth Dockyard were not given leave, as they could not be spared owing to the urgent nature of the work they were engaged upon in the "Orion" and "Neptune." The number concerned was about seventy.

Portsmouth Dockyard (Petitions).

asked whether very little time was given for the presentation of new petitions from the men belonging to the several trades in Portsmouth Dockyard; that the men employed in the several trades in Portsmouth Dockyard had only one evening in which to formulate the requests presented in their petitions; that there was a mass meeting of the men protesting against such haste; and whether he will assure the House that on future occasions some consideration will be shown to those who wish to represent the serious concerns of life and labour?

With regard to the first and second parts of the question, the men were first informed on the 16th instant that new petitions might be presented, and the latest date for receipt was given as 13th August. It was found necessary to receive the petitions earlier, and on the 20th instant the men were informed that the petitions should be lodged by the 22nd instant. This date was extended on the 21st to the 23rd. I have no information as to the third part of the question. As to the fourth part, as much notice as possible is always given.

asked if a rise of 2s. a week has been given to all or to a certain number of skilled labourers in Portsmouth Dockyard, but that the skilled labourers employed under the director of works are expressly excepted from this rise?

A rise of 2s. a week in the maximum rates of pay has been granted to a limited number of skilled labourers in the constructive and engineering departments engaged on special work in all the dockyards, but these increases are not general to all classes of skilled labourers in the employment of the Admiralty.

asked whether seventeen men, employed under the Director of Works, Portsmouth Dockyard, were compelled on Monday, the 18th, to stand off from 10 a.m. owing to the weather, and were not paid half-time for the time so lost, as was the custom previous to January, 1910; and, if this is the only branch of the service where men are so treated, whether he will remedy this state of affairs?

It has been ascertained from Portsmouth that seventeen men employed under the Director of Works at that yard were compelled on Monday, the 18th inst., to stand off from 10.30 a.m., owing to inclement weather, there being no work available under cover to which they could be transferred. Thirteen of these men returned to work at 1.30 p.m., but the other four remained out the rest of the day. They were not paid half-time for the day so lost, in accordance with revised regulations which came into force in January last.

Dockyard Tugs (Established Mates).

asked whether established mates of the dockyard tugs can serve as acting-masters without having to give up their standing as established mates; and, if not, whether he will consider the advisability of enabling them to do so?

Established mates of the dockyard tugs are required to serve as acting masters at times during the absence of the masters, and in such cases they are not required to give up their standing as established mates. There is no intention to make any change in this practice.

North of Scotland. Herring Fishery (H.M.S. "Ringdove").

asked whether, having regard to the fact that the only naval vessel in Scotland at present engaged in marine superintendence, His Majesty's ship "Ringdove," is stationed during the great summer herring fishery in the North of Scotland on harbour duty at Baltasound and Lerwick and other fishing ports, and is thus prevented from patrolling the coast, he will consider as to detailing another gunboat for the purpose of assisting the Fishery Board cruisers in protecting the inshore waters along the Scottish coast against illegal trawling?

The superintendence of the Scottish fisheries is carried out by His Majesty's ship "Ringdove"; she is now employed on duties connected with the herring fishery, of which her commanding officer is the superintendent; it is not proposed to detail an additional gunboat for the purpose indicated.

Naval Store-carrying Vessels.

asked the number of vessels employed as store carriers moving ammunition, munitions of war, and general stores from place to place; whether he is aware that while the men employed are paid a less rate of wage the cost to the Admiralty is greater than would be the case if the work was undertaken by contractors who pay the trade union rate of wage to the men in their employ; and, if so, will steps be taken to inquire into the matter with a view to putting this Department on a business footing?

Three coasting steamers, eight sailing barges, and several tugs and dumb barges are employed in transport of explosives, etc. The conditions of service, including pay, in the naval ordnance vessels are more favourable to the men than those which obtain in the merchant service. Ammunitions and munitions of war are conveyed by Departmental vessels at a cost to the Admiralty which is not greater than the prices paid to contractors. A few years ago a Departmental Inquiry was made, and in consequence authority to use Departmental vessels or hire contractors' vessels was vested in the local officers. As the system is working satisfactorily, no further inquiries are considered necessary. Two store ships and two steam lighters are employed in conveying naval stores between home dock- yards and His Majesty's ships, etc. The rates paid to the crews compare favourably with those paid for similar work in the merchant service, and the Admiralty is fully satisfied that it is to the advantage of the Service, on economical and general grounds, to continue the employment of these vessels.

Pre-"Dreadnoughts" (Fighting Value).

asked what is the limit of time from the date of the launch of a pre-"Dreadnought" of its fighting value as a ship fit to place in the first fighting line; taking such limit into account, how many pre-"Dreadnoughts" will be fit for the first fighting line in 1916; and at what date will there be no pre-"Dreadnoughts" so fit?

No time has been fixed limiting the life of a ship as fit to take her place in the fighting line. It depends not on her age but on her actual power in relation to the ships of other nations she would be likely to meet in action.

asked what is the Admiralty estimate of the fighting value of the pre-"Dreadnought" battleships in the British Navy, expressed in terms of "Dreadnoughts"?

It is not possible to give any estimate that could be generally accepted, as their value varies so much according to the conditions under which they may be called upon to fight.

Naval Manœuvres, 1888 (Report).

asked whether the views of the three admirals on the naval forces required to maintain our command of the sea expresed in their Report on the Naval Manœuvres in 1888 are considered by the Admiralty not to be applicable now; and, if so, whether he will appoint a similar Committee to make a Report on similar lines on the late manœuvres?

The Report of the Committee on the Naval Manœuvres of 1888 dealt with the details of the manœuvres which had just taken place and the adequacy of the Fleet as it then existed. The conditions were then so entirely different from what they are now that the Report cannot be considered applicable to present circumstances. It is not proposed to appoint a similar Committee to snake a Report on the recent manœuvres.

Trincomalee (Buildings and Stores).

asked whether the buildings and stores at Trincomalee have been under proper custody since it was abandoned as a naval station?

The portions of the naval establishment at Trincomalee that are not in use have been under the charge of a European and several native caretakers since the yard itself was closed. With the exception of coal, which is in safe custody, there are no naval stores at Trincomalee.

asked what is going to be done with the guns from Trincomalee, which are at present lying about unprotected on the Galle face at Colombo?

asked whether the mines which used to guard the harbour at Trincomalee were merely hauled up on the beach and abandoned there?

The mines at Trincomalee which were not required either by the Army or Navy were ordered in 1906 to be emptied of their explosives, and disposed of at the discretion of the Commander-in-Chief, East Indies.

Keyham Factory (Engineer Managers' Department).

asked whether the masons of the engineer managers' department, Keyham Factory, are entitled to the sliding scale of pay granted some little time back to the civil engineers' department; and, if not, can he explain, seeing the Order stated that all masons employed on furnace work were so entitled, why the masons of the engineer managers' department, Keyham Factory, have been excluded, in view of the fact that these men are mostly employed on furnace and building work?

The Admiralty Order referred to did not contain any such stipulation as is alleged. The rate for bricklayers in the engineer managers' department corresponds with the normal rate of the scale for bricklayers and masons in the works department, the former of whom, it has been ascertained, are engaged chiefly upon brickwork of buildings, and the latter upon stonework. There is not such a large range of bricklayers' work of a specially skilled nature in the engineering department as in the works department and it is therefore not considered necessary to apply the higher and special rates of the works department scale generally to the men of this trade in the engineering department.

Rating of Carpenters' Crew (Royal Navy).

asked whether he was aware of the block that has occurred in the ratings of carpenters' crew and leading carpenter's crew in the Royal Navy; that men qualified for several years for advancement to the higher ratings are unable to get their step; that the position has been aggravated by boy shipwrights, entered for training in previous years, being automatically advanced to shipwrights, thereby still further increasing the block for others; and whether he will consider the advisability of making such arrangements as will enable men who have passed their examination for leading carpenter's crew and shipwright to receive their higher rating within a reasonable time after they have become qualified?

The case of the ratings referred to by the hon. Member received the very careful consideration of the Admiralty, and, having regard to all the circumstances, they decided to authorise a certain number of special advancements of men holding such ratings. Orders have been given on the 23rd June for all men of these ratings with very good record who were then qualified for advancement and had completed eight years' service in their present grade, to be advanced specially to the next highest grade. These advancements are in addition to the ordinary advancements to fill vacancies.

Protection of British Trade Routes.

asked whether there is no provision in Lloyd's insurance which prevents owners of vessels carrying guns and powder on board; and whether he will, by increasing the number of cruisers on those stations where British trade predominates, endeavour to ensure the protection of British trade routes against sudden attack by armed merchantmen?

In view of the Noble and Gallant Lord's question, I am making further inquiries at Lloyd's, in particular with regard to the distinction between guns and ammunition carried as freight in the usual way, and guns and ammunition carried as part of the equipment of the ship. The protection of British trade routes against sudden attack by armed merchant ships is considered adequate.

H.M.S. "Triumph" and "Swiftsure."

asked whether His Majesty's ship "Triumph" and His Majesty's ship "Swiftsure" have been away for over twelve months, and in these circumstances will the Admiralty consider the possibility of giving leave to the men on these ships before returning to their stations?

Yes, Sir. I am aware that they have been absent over twelve months, but no exception can be made in their case.

Oil Fuel for the Navy.

asked the First Lord of the Admiralty what steps have been taken to provide an adequate supply of oil fuel for the Navy; and whether, having regard to the recent discoveries of petroleum in Trinidad, he is keeping in view the propriety of securing supplies from that source?

With regard to the first part of the question, I trust that the hon. Member will appreciate that it would not be in the interests of the public service to furnish the information asked for. With regard to the second part of the question, all likely sources of supply, including Trinidad, are kept in view.

War Vessels Sold.

asked the number of vessels sold during the years 1908–9, giving the names, date of construction, prices realised, and original cost in each case?

The information asked for will be found in Appendix 1, page 127, of the Navy Appropriation Account for 1908–9, presented to the House of Commons, 22nd February, 1910.

Conveyance of High Explosives.

asked what are the arrangements recently made to convey ammunition and high explosives between Woolwich and other depots by rail instead of, as formerly, by water; whether representations have been made that such rail conveyance of dangerously-explosive material is a source of danger to the inhabitants of the districts on the route; and whether, in the interests of public safety, there is any intention to revert to conveyance by water

Arrangements have been made with the South-Eastern and Chatham Railway Company for the conveyance of cordite from Woolwich to various magazines; high explosives could, in emergency, also be sent by rail. With regard to the second part of the question, no such representations have been received, and it is considered there is no danger to the inhabitants of the districts on the route. As to the last part of the question, there is at present no intention of reverting to the former system of conveying the cordite, etc., by barge.

Dog Killed, Cavan Barracks.

asked the Secretary of State for War whether he is aware that, during the week ended 17th July last, a young dog was destroyed in the Militia barracks at Cavan; will he say how this animal was killed, and whether it was destroyed with blank cartridge, the same being discharged in its mouth and ears, and the animal being ultimately dispatched with a dummy rifle; is there a full or any supply of ammunition in this barracks; will he say who was in charge, and why the dog was killed; whether any report was made of this outrage, and the nature of the same?

It appears that the dog in question, which was believed to be mad, bit a child, and that the owner, on attempting to capture it, was also bitten. A small quantity of ball cartridge was in charge of the quarter-master, but as under the Regulations it could not be obtained without a requisition signed by an officer, the owner asked for a round of blank cartridge, which happened to be available, to enable him to stun the dog and so obviate further risk of being bitten. The owner discharged the cartridge in the mouth of the dog, which was then dispatched with a club. No report was made by the owner to the Civil authorities, as he considered that he had done all that was necessary for the public safety.

Army Act (Appeals).

asked the Secretary of State for War whether he will state the number of appeals that have been lodged under Section 42 of the Army Act during the last five years; and how many appeals, if any, have been entertained?

During the last five years there have been twenty-five such appeals, but in no case has any appeal succeeded.

Royal Army Carriage Department.

asked whether, when the artificer staff was transferred from the Royal Carriage Department to the Artillery or Ordnance College it was on the understanding that they should not lose in any way by the transfer, but should participate in any benefits which, under new regulations, would have accrued to them had they remained in the Royal Carriage Department?

Coldstream Guards (2nd Battalion).

asked the Secretary of State for War whether, in view of the fact, that Patrick Dockery, private of the 2nd Battalion Coldstream Guards, now of Athlone, Ireland, presented himself for re-enlistment on 22nd April last, at the military barracks, Athlone, and was there examined and pronounced permanently unfit, he will have the pension restored to Dockery, of which he was deprived some time ago on the ground that he had recovered from his disability?

Arrangements are being made for this man's examination by a medical board in order that the Commissioners of Chelsea Hospital may consider his claim to further pension. The decision will be notified in due course.

Deputy Lieutenants.

asked whether it is in accordance with any rule or statement made by the War Secretary to appoint persons to the office of deputy lieutenant of a county other than persons who have served either in the Army or the Navy or the Auxiliary Forces; and whether the recent appointment of Dr. John Jones to be a deputy lieutenant of the county of Merionethshire is a reward for services other than services in His Majesty's Forces?

A candidate for appointed as a deputy lieutenant must either have had ten years' commissioned service in His Majesty's Forces, or have rendered eminent services as a member of the Territorial Force Association of his county. Dr. John Jones having rendered eminent services as a member of his county association, was duly qualified for appointment.

Machine Guns for Infantry.

asked the Secretary for War whether, considering the probability that the Field Artillery of the Territorial Army would, in case of invasion, be only available in closed country, he will consider the advisability of doing away with the Artillery and furnishing the Territorial Infantry regiments with machine guns in large numbers?

The most suitable armament and organisation for the Territorial Force and the circumstances under which it may be called upon to fight have already received, and will continue to receive, the earnest attention of the Army Council. While the value of the machine guns, under certain conditions, is recognised, it is not considered that they can take the place of Field Artillery.

War Office (Contract for Fireguards).

asked the Secretary for War whether the Manchester firm which is now executing a contract for fireguards has satisfied his Department that the work is being done in accordance with the terms of the Fair Contracts Clause; whether he has received contrary information from a society of wireworkers in the district; and, if he has considered the matter, can he state the result?

A representation was received on the 26th instant from the Federal Union of Wireworkers in regard to wages paid upon a contract for fireguards. It has been necessary to ask for more specific information, and as soon as this is received the case shall be fully investigated.

Major-General Scobell.

asked the Secretary of State for War whether the Army Council have made their inquiry into the statements made by the hon. Member for Woolwich reflecting upon Major-General Scobell; and what decision has been arrived at?

The Army Council have inquired into the statement made by the hon. and gallant Member for Woolwich reflecting upon Major - General Scobell, but before arriving at a final decision they have thought it proper, by letter dated the 23rd instant, to ask the hon. and gallant Member whether he desired to lay before them any further statement in amplification or substantiation of his charge. No reply has so far been received. When a decision has been come to I propose to give it the same publicity as has been given to the charge against Major-General Scobell.

Inequalities in Army Service Pay.

asked the Secretary for War if he is aware that, owing to the deduction of the service pay of 7d. a day from the pay of an Artillery clerk re-enlisting, cases may arise where a sergeant-major, warrant officer, is receiving less pay than non-commissioned officers of lower rank, and that a corporal may be receiving higher pay than a sergeant; will he say on what grounds this practice is justified; and will he state why the Artillery clerks' section is in this matter treated differently from other branches of the Service?

Cases alluded to in the first part of the question may arise for the reasons which I have fully explained in replies to previous questions put by the hon. Member and other hon. Members. This anomaly is not confined to Artillery clerks, but exists in other branches of the Service.

Galloway Rifles.

asked the same right hon. Gentleman whether he is aware that, on the amalgamation of the 3rd (Dumfries) Volunteer Battalion, K.O.S.B., and the Galloway Rifles Volunteer Corps, Lord Lucas, at the Kirkcudbrightshire county meeting on 5th December, 1907, promised that Colonel Lennox and his (the Galloway) officers should receive fair play as regards promotion; whether the Dumfries commanding officer received the command of the amalgamated battalion, although he had already had two extensions in the Volunteer Force, and has since received two extensions of command in the Territorial Force; whether the late Galloway commanding officer, on applying for an extension in order to take up the command on the retiral of the present commanding officer, has been refused on the ground that he has had no training while supernumerary during the extensions granted to the other commanding officer; and whether, in implement of Lord Lucas's promise, and in view of the dissatisfaction which prevails in Galloway, and the fact that other supernumerary commanding officers in a similar position have received extensions, he will consider the matter with the view of granting the application for extension by the Galloway commanding officer?

I am aware of the speech alluded to. Lord Lucas stated the rule which is always followed, subject, of course, to the paramount consideration of military efficiency. In the case of this particular officer, I can safely say that the rule would have been followed were it not for the fact that four experienced senior officers, after careful consideration of all the circumstances, were, on purely military grounds, unanimously against the extension which this officer had applied for. I can, therefore, see no reason for reconsidering the matter.

Open Ranges.

asked the Secretary for War if he will take steps to ensure that every battalion of the Territorial Forces shall be exercised on an open range before the close of this year's musketry season?

Arrangements have been made for all battalions of the Territorial Force to be exercised on an open range during the current musketry year, including the seven battalions which were unable to do so last year owing to want of range accommodation.

Musketry Tests.

asked the Secretary for War if he will state how many men of the Territorial Force passed the standard musketry test in 1909; and if he can give any comparative figures to show whether efficiency in musketry is improving or not?

One hundred and six thousand one hundred and twenty-five qualified in musketry. The force fired the new musketry course last year for the first time. The conditions and targets are of an entirely new description and differently coloured, and therefore it is not practicable to compare the new course with any previous courses. The first year's experience has shown satisfactory results.

Approach to Foulness Island.

asked the Secretary for War whether, in view of the fact that the sole approach to Foulness Island, in Essex, known as the Broomway, has been damaged owing to the gun practice from Shoeburyness, he will make inquiries into the matter with a view to preventing such occurrences taking place in the future?

Inquiries have been made into this matter, and it appears that on 25th July the causeway known as the Broomway was slightly damaged by projectiles. Repairs were immediately put in band and the damaged places roped off. The police and the Rector of Foulness Island were at once informed. It is not anticipated that serious damage which would prevent the approach to Foulness Island by the Broomway at low tide will occur, and every precaution to prevent such damage will be taken.

Territorial Force.

asked what proportion of the men of the Territorial Force were under twenty years of age on 1st April, 1910?

No figures for 1st April are available, but the figures would probably approximate to those of 1st October, 1909, which showed 37.75 per cent. of the non-commissioned officers and men serving as under twenty years of age.

Sirhind Entrenching Tool.

asked whether the Sirhind entrenching tool has been adopted by the War Office; has it been issued to the troops; and, if so, has it proved satisfactory or otherwise?

The Sirhind pattern entrenching tool has been adopted, and has been issued to the troops. No complaints regarding it have been received.

Horse-breeding Scheme.

asked the Home Secretary if he could state the number of horses hired from the London omnibus companies and from private individuals (if any) for the purpose of the Territorial autumn manœuvres; if he will state the cost per horse that the Government will have to pay during the time they are under contract; and if it will be possible to find the men work who will be thrown out of employment during the manœuvres?

No statistics are available at the War Office to enable me to reply to the first and second parts of the question. As regards the last part I told the hon. Member in reply to a similar question on the 25th instant that any such inquiry should be addressed to the companies concerned. It is, however, considered that a number of suitable recruits for the Army Service Corps Special Reserve, Category A, might be obtained if the men employed by the companies supplying horses for these trainings and manœuvres were informed of the conditions and advantages of service in that branch. This would enable the employés to be working with the horses of their own companies during the training. Arrangements are being made to enable recruiting officers to get into touch with the managers and the employés.

asked the Secretary for War when the details of his proposed horse-breeding scheme will be announced; and whether any opportunity will be given for discussing it?

This question should be addressed to the Board of Agriculture and Fisheries.

Rifle Range, Ballycannan, County Clare.

asked the Secretary of State for War if a rifle range is to be established at Ballycannan, county Clare; and is he aware that the land in question is required for agriculture by the local people of the district?

It is intended to establish the range in question. It is understood that the land is mostly rough heather, and only a small part is arable and suitable for agricultural purposes. The land is the only available property which would meet the requirements of a range, which is necessary in the interests of military efficiency. Representations in favour of the range have been received from many of the inhabitants of the neighbourhood.

Disinfection of Schools (Scotland).

asked the President of the Board of Education whether his attention had been drawn to the good effects of the memorandum dealing with the question of the disinfection of schools which was issued by the Scottish Education Board; and whether, in view of the Scottish experience, he will issue the memorandum for the guidance and instruction of English education committees?

I must refer the hon. Member to the answer I gave to a similar question asked by him on 9th March last.

Elementary Education, Llangadwaldr, Isle of Anglesey.

asked the President of the Board of Education what provision is made for the elementary education of children in the parish of Llangadwaldr, near Bodargan, Isle of Anglesey?

There is no public elementary school in the parish of Llangadwaldr, but I understand that there is accommodation for all the children of the parish who need it in the Trefdraeth Church of England school. Plans for a new council school on a site centrally situated were approved by the Board in December, 1908, and a loan for the provision of the school was sanctioned by the Local Government Board in May of last year. I am not sure what progress has been made in the matter since, but I am making inquiries.

asked the President of the Board of Education whether he has received one or more applications from the managers of a voluntary non-provided school at Llangadwaldr, Isle of Anglesey, to have their school placed on the Grant list, and whether any Grant or rate aid has been paid to this school; whether he has received any petition from parents in the neighbourhood with regard to this school; and what is the number of children of school age whose parents wish them to be taught in this school?

The Board have received proposals for the provision of a Voluntary Public Elementary School in this parish, which amount to an application to have the existing school, which was previously closed by the owner, placed upon the Grant List. No grants have been paid in respect of the school since its removal from the Grant List on the 1st October, 1907, and I assume that no assistance from the rates has been received by this School since that date inasmuch as it ceased then to be a public elementary school. I have recently received a petition signed by thirty-seven persons, asking that the school may be replaced on the Grant List. It appears from the petition that the signatories are the parents of sixty-two children of school age.

Secondary Schools (Free Places).

asked the President of the Board of Education whether, having regard to the fact that many small holders, small tradesmen, gardeners, artisans, and other persons of small means send their children, at con siderable self-sacrifice, to provincial secondary schools, and also that some of the children now occupying free places in such schools after attending an elementary school are withdrawn from the school before the completion of the full four years' course, the Board will so amend the regulations relating to the admission of free places of 25 per cent. of the students as to enable a proportion of the vacancies created by such withdrawals to be filled at the discretion of the governors by children of needy local parents already in the school or attending some other secondary school in the district, if they have shown special proficiency or exceptional industry?

I think the hon. Member has misunderstood the regulation to which he refers. The number of free places required to be offered at the commencement of each school year is calculated on the admissions during the previous year, not on the vacancies at the disposal of the governors at the beginning of the new school year. When the requisite number of free places has been offered it is open to the governors to fill their remaining vacancies, including any of the free places which are not taken up, by fee-paying or non-fee-paying pupils, as opportunity offers. I am not prepared to amend the Free Place Regulations so as to substitute any other qualification for previous attendance at a public elementary school. The experience of the Board shows that any other criterion of the needs of the candidates is extremely difficult to apply.

Elementary Education Loans (England and Wales).

asked the President of the Board of Education if he will state the amount of loans raised for purposes of elementary education by the education authorities of England and Wales, and the payments made in respect of loan charges, principal and interest, in the years 1907–8 and 1908–9?

The figures for the year 1908–9 are not yet available. I give below the figures for the years 1906–7 and 1907–8:—

ENGLAND AND WALES. Amount of Loans raised. Payments in respect of Loan Charges. £ £ 1906–7 … 2,205,241 2,420,583 1907–8 … 2,108,075 2,520,028

Camden Town Church of England School.

asked the President of the Board of Education whether the Board has before it the appeal of the managers of the Camden Town Church of England school against the decision of the local education authority that the school should be reorganised as a mixed school for boys and girls; and whether, in view of the fact that the structural alterations required by the Board have been carried out by the managers and that the proposed reorganisation of the school is contrary to the wishes of the parents of the children attending the school, the Board will consult the official inspectors as to the condition of the school and the desirability of this school being converted into a mixed school for boys and girls as required by the local authority?

The Board are at present awaiting the report of His Majesty's inspector on this question. I am not, therefore, in a position to make a statement at present.

Board of Education (Appointments).

asked the President of the Board of Education what was the total number of persons, not at the time of appointment in permanent Government employment, who had been appointed since January, 1906, to positions in his Department with salaries exceeding £100 a year, and who did not, previously to their appointment pass an examination by the Civil Service Commissioners; and what was the total value of their salaries?

Eight men and one woman have been appointed to newly-established posts at initial salaries amounting to £5,750. In addition to these, eleven men and eight women have been appointed to posts newly created, by the conversion in each case of one or more existing posts of generally equivalent value, at salaries amounting to £6,110. There have also been forty-seven appointments to vacancies in the existing staff of the Board arising in the ordinary course through death or retirement.

Voluntary Schools Closed (1903–1909).

asked the President of the Board of Education if he will state the number of voluntary schools that were closed during each of the school years 1903–4 to 1908–9, both inclusive; and if he will state the number of schools closed during that period under the following heads: Church of England, Roman Catholic, Wesleyan, Jewish, British, and others?

I must refer my hon. Friend to the answer I gave on 18th March to the hon. Member for the Hallam Division of Sheffield, which I hope will satisfy him.

Charge against Hawley Crippen.

asked the Home Secretary if he is aware that there has been grave neglect of duty on the part of Inspector Dew in not having the Hilldrop Crescent house watched after the 30th June and in not having the movements of the man Crippen under observation after the interview he had with him; if he is aware that if the movements of Crippen had been shadowed in the same manner as those of the Russian Social Democrats whilst they were in London during last year it would have been impossible for him to have left the country; and if he intends taking action in the matter?

I have already intimated to the hon. Member that, at the present time, it would not, in my opinion, serve the interests of justice to discuss the points raised. Meanwhile I do not think it fair to make a charge of dereliction of duty against a police official who, by reason of his being engaged on special duty abroad, is not in a position to make any answer.

Mail Bag Canvas.

asked the Home Secretary whether before deciding the contracts for mail-bag canvas the Postmaster-General is consulted, with a view of expressing an opinion as to suitability, price, etc., and whether he has a voice in deciding who shall be awarded the principal or more important item in these contracts?

asked the Home Secretary whether he can state the price paid for 704,500 yards of British-woven canvas for mail bags; by how much did the amount exceed the price quoted for foreign-woven canvas; is he aware that British canvases are largely woven from foreign-spun yarns, and that the cost of producing the yarns represents 90 per cent. of the value of woven cloth; and whether, before accepting tenders for British-woven canvases at higher prices than foreign, he will take steps to satisfy himself, before awarding the contracts, that British-woven canvases are produced from British-spun yarns?

The cost of the 704,500 yards of British-woven canvas at the accepted contract rates will be £31,042 2s. 11d. This amount will exceed the price quoted for foreign-woven canvas by £985 7s. 6d. It is understood that British canvases are sometimes woven from foreign-spun yarn, but to what extent this is the case I am unable to say. The cost of the yarn would naturally represent a large proportion of the value of the canvas, but I have no data on which to form an estimate of what that proportion is. To insist on mail-bag canvas being manufactured from British-spun yarn would considerably enhance the cost.

Death from Anthrax (Wellingborough).

asked the Home Secretary whether he has now received the report of his inspector or medical officer as to the circumstances attending the death of Thomas Forman from anthrax, at Wellingborough; whether he will circulate it as a Parliamentary Paper; and whether the investigation has suggested any further precautions which may be taken to reduce the risks of contracting anthrax in the handling of hides?

The report is not yet completed. When I receive it I will communicate with my hon. Friend.

Von Veltheim (Sentence).

asked the Home Secretary whether the sentence passed upon Von Veltheim for blackmail has been reduced; and, if so, whether he will state the number of years by which it has been reduced?

asked whether the sentence of twenty-one years' penal servitude passed on Von Voltheim had been reduced; and, if so, to what extent?

I decided in March that this convict should be allowed his discharge on conditional licence at the time when it would be given if he were under a sentence of fourteen instead of twenty years. He will therefore be able by good conduct to obtain his conditional release at the end of ten and a half years from the date of his conviction.

Bank Holidays.

asked the Home Secretary whether, having regard to the fact that in the case of any Bank Holiday capable of falling on Sunday an equivalent holiday is granted by Statute in that event, and also to the fact that three non-business days already occur consecutively in Ireland and England when Christmas Day falls on either Friday, Saturday, or Monday, he will, if satisfied of such general support in the House as would enable such a measure to be disposed of amicably in the amount of public time available, introduce a Bill making Tuesday, 27th December, a Bank Holiday in any year in which, as in the present year 1910, Christmas Day falls on Sunday, in order to obviate the inconvenience caused by the Christmas break being shortened by one day one year in seven by the event in question?

I notice that a Bill to this effect was introduced last year, but failed to make any progress. If it were reintroduced and met with general approval there should be little difficulty in passing it.

Treatment of Rejected. Aliens.

asked the Home Secretary whether he is aware that seven aliens of different sexes and religion, rejected by the port officers of London, were, pending appeal, cooped up together in a small under-deck cabin on board the "Nerissa," and not allowed to leave this cabin for any purpose, sanitary or otherwise; whether he will inquire into this case; and if he will take steps to prevent a repetition of such conduct by the establishment of a proper receiving house for the accommodation of rejected aliens whilst under appeal?

I am aware that an article which appeared in "The Jewish Chronicle" of the 22nd instant contained, among other things, statements to the effect of the first paragraph of the question. As soon as the article was brought to my notice, I caused the matter to be investigated, and I found that the facts of the case did not support the statements. For instance, separate accommodation for males and females was provided for the seven aliens in question, in two cabins, each of which was certified to hold sixteen persons, and the aliens were allowed from time to time to be outside these cabins both on the deck of the ship, and, when necessary, ashore. As my hon. Friend is aware, I am anxious that a receiving house for alien immigrants should be established in the Port of London; and the Committee which I have appointed to advise me in the matter is now at work.

Welsh Church Commission Report.

asked the Home Secretary what reply has been received to his communications to the chairman of the Welsh Church Commission as to the date when the publication of the Report of that Commission will take place?

I received yesterday a letter from the chairman of the Commission saying that at a meeting held on Tuesday a resolution was carried unanimously by all the Commissioners present that all Memoranda should be sent in before 1st October, and that the Report and Memoranda should be published not later than 1st November next.

Expulsion of Mormons from Berlin.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether his attention has been called to the expulsion of Mormon "apostles" from Berlin on Friday last, and their departure for Rotterdam, and to the presence of members of that body at Hungerford, Berkshire, and whether he will take steps to prevent meetings being held to spread their views in this country during the Recess?

I have seen a statement in the Press about the expulsion of Mormons from Berlin, but I have no official knowledge of the matter, and I have no information as to the presence of members of that body at Hungerford. I have no power to prevent the holding of such meetings so long as they are held in conformity with the law.

Religious Bodies (Royal Commission).

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when the Report of the Royal Commission on the Church of England and other religious bodies in Wales and Monmouthshire will be published?

I received yesterday a letter from the chairman of the Commission saying that at a meeting held on Tuesday a resolution was carried unanimously by all the Commissioners present that all Memoranda shall be sent in before 1st October, and that the Report and Memoranda should be published not later than 1st November next.

Licensing Appeals.

asked whether appeals from county licensing committees to the Commissioners of Inland Revenue, under the Licensing Act of 1904, are decided by the Commissioners personally, or whether they hand over the consideration of the papers to others?

Assuming that the appeals referred to are applications to the Commissioners of Inland Revenue under Section 2 of the Act in question to determine the amount of compensation, the cases are dealt with by the Commissioners themselves personally.

Mines and Quarries (Royal Commission).

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether, in view of the importance of the stone quarries in the neighbourhoods of Bath and Portland, he will consider the advisability of adding to the Commission recently appointed to investigate the working of mines and quarries some person intimately acquainted with the various systems of quarrying for stone, and with the particular methods prevailing in the districts named; and whether he will undertake that adequate facilities will be afforded for representatives of the principal Bath stone firms to be heard before the Commission should they so desire?

As I have already stated in reply to previous questions, it would be impossible to comply with requests for special representation on the Commission of different sections of the quarrying industry without making the Commission far too unwieldy for the purposes of its inquiry; but I will bring to the notice of the Commission the desire of the Bath Stone Firms to give evidence before them, and I have no doubt the Commission will be prepared to give them adequate facilities for doing so.

Indian Police Pensions.

asked the Under-Secretary of State for India whether the Government of India has now ascertained the amount of expenditure involved and the probable effect on other departments of the public service of granting the concession to the officers of the Indian police of being admitted to full pension after twenty-five years' service, as recommended by the Police Commission; and whether any decision on the point has yet been arrived at?

The inquiry undertaken by the Government of India is still in progress.

Indian Army Officers.

asked whether the negotiations with the War Office in regard to the extension to officers who entered the Indian Army from the Royal Marines of the privilege granted officers joining from British regiments of counting five years for service for pension have yet been concluded; and when a decision may be expected on the subject?

Life Assurance Companies (India).

asked whether any progress has been made with the consideration of the question of securing more adequate control over life assurance companies in India in accordance with the system in force in this country; and when legislation may be expected on the subject?

The question is still under consideration, and it would be premature to make any statement as to the introduction of legislation.

Rupees (Coinage).

asked the Under-Secretary of State for India why, in view of the large profits obtained, there were no rupees coined in India in 1908–9; and why were these profits foregone?

Owing to the conditions of Exchange during the years mentioned there was no public demand for increased coinage in rupees. Had additional rupees been coined for the sake of the profit on the operation they could only have been put into circulation (unless the Secretary of State had been prepared to accept tenders for bills on India at rates materially below the gold point) by issuing them in payment for direct services to Government, or in payment of interest on Government rupee debt. To have done this would have been to revert to the practice, common in the Middle Ages, but now happily obsolete among civilised Governments, of deliberately debasing the currency in the interest of Government and at the expense of the King's subjects.

Sugar and Banana Plantations, Jamaica.

asked the Under-Secretary of State for the Colonies if he will state the total number of sugar and banana plantations in Jamaica; the number of those whose proprietors utilise immigrant labour; and the number of those who develop their estates without any immigrant labour whatever.

The Governor of Jamaica will be asked to furnish the information which my hon. Friend desires, and the particulars will be sent to him when they are received.

Jamaica (Emigration).

asked what are the annual emigration figures of natives who leave Jamaica to seek employment in other Colonies and countries?

The Registrar-General's Report for the year ended 31st March, 1909, gives the number of labourers leaving Jamaica by the Port of Kingston at 10,967, and those entering as 10,506. The total number of departures from the island is given as 18,329, and that of arrivals as 17,496, and labourers departing and arriving are included in these totals.

Pacific Trade.

asked the Under-Secretary of State for the Colonies whether any investigation has been carried out since the date of the last Imperial Conference by the Imperial Secretariat into the advisability of restricting the inter-dominion trade in the Pacific to British ships; and, if so, whether he will publish the conclusions reached and the reasons on which they are based?

In view of the general attitude adopted by His Majesty's Government at the Conference of 1907 respecting the question of the restriction of Imperial trade to British ships, the question of applying such a restriction in the particular case of Pacific trade has not been further considered, more especially as the point has not been again raised by the Dominion Governments.

Foreign Office Staff.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what was the total number of persons, not at the time of appointment in permanent Government employment, who have been appointed since January, 1906, to positions in his Department with salaries exceeding £100 a year, and who did not previously to their appointment pass an examination by the Civil Service Commissioners; and what was the total annual value of their salaries?

The answer is that no one has been appointed in the Foreign Office without passing an examination.

Veenhuizen Labour Colony.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs if he will ascertain from the Dutch Government the cost to the State per head for the maintenance and management of the labour colony at Veenhuizen; and the average number of inmates?

Earthquake at Messina (Contract Claim).

asked the Secretary for Foreign Affairs if he will inquire into the treatment meted out to Mr. John Macmanus, of Hammersmith, a British subject, by the Italian Government, in that he can get no satisfaction, payment, or settlement of the amount due to him, being the balance of a contract for supplying temporary iron buildings after the earthquake at Messina?

I have no information on the subject of this claim, but if I am furnished with a statement of the case, it shall be inquired into.

British Vessels in French Ports.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether he is aware that a charge of 20 francs is now levied by the French Custom House on British vessels entering French ports to pay for the inspection of lights and lifesaving appliances, to which the British vessels are compelled to submit; and whether he will use his influence with the French Government to secure the removal or the modification of this charge?

The answer to the first part of the question is in the affirmative. Representations have been made to the French Government on the subject of the charging of a fee of 20 francs for the inspection, which takes place in accordance with the French Merchant Shipping Law of April, 1907. It is understood that, as the French law stands at present, the French Government are unable to make any concession in the matter.

Metric System.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether he has any official information showing that Russia is preparing a law for the complete establishment of metric weights and measures in that empire; that China has decided to permit no weights and measures on her railways except the metric system; and that Siam is preparing regulations for completing metric reform in that country; and, if so, whether, in view of next year's Imperial Conference, he will make any statement or lay papers on the subject?

I have no information to the effect stated in the question; and I cannot, therefore, undertake to adopt the course suggested by the hon. Member.

Most-Favoured-Nation Treatment.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs which foreign countries mentioned in the Board of Trade Returns grant us complete most-favoured nation treatment, most-favoured-nation treatment on a limited list of products, and no most-favoured-nation treatment?

Apart from the special Customs treatment sometimes accorded to products of neighbouring countries and the preferential arrangements in force between the United States and Cuba, all foreign countries give United Kingdom products complete most-favoured-nation treatment except Portugal, Brazil, and Haiti, each of which gives special reductions of duty on a limited number of articles to certain countries not including the United Kingdom.

Houses of Convocation.

asked the Prime Minister whether the Houses of Convocation of the provinces of Canterbury and York respectively have met and transacted business since the death of King Edward VII.; whether new writs for the summoning of the Houses of Convocation of the said provinces have been sealed and issued since the death of King Edward VII. to the Archbishops of Canterbury and York respectively; and, if so, on what date or dates?

I understand that the answer to the first part of the question is in the affirmative, and to the second part in the negative. I am informed that Convocation of Canterbury met and transacted business on July 5th and 6th, and Convocation of York on 25th and 26th May.

Expiring Laws Continuance Bill (Tithe Rent-charge Rates Act, 1899).

asked the Prime Minister whether the omission from the Schedule of the Expiring Laws Continuance Bill of The Tithe Rent-charge Rates Act, 1899, is due to an oversight, or whether such omission was intended?

The Tithe Rent Charge Rates Act, 1899, depends for its application and duration on the Agricultural Rates Act, 1896, which is included in the Schedule of the present Expiring Laws Continuance Bill.

Insanitary Cottages, Letcombe Bassett.

asked the President of the Local Government Board if, as a result of the action of the local sanitary authorities in condemning cottages in the parish of Letcombe Bassett as insanitary, the inhabitants of these cottages have been compelled to seek refuge in the Wantage Workhouse; whether he is aware that a woman with a child is in that institution compelled to sleep in the same room as seven other women, each with a child; and whether he can promise legislation at an early date to meet the necessity of providing cottages to replace those condemned?

I have been in communication with the Wantage Rural District Council in regard to this matter. I understand that the action which resulted in the family referred to entering the workhouse was not taken by the council, but by the owner of the cottage, who had obtained an order of ejectment. I am aware that the mother sleeps with her child in the workhouse in a room occupied by five other women and six other children, but the room is a large one. There is no necessity for legislation. The district council have power to provide any necessary cottages, and they inform me that they will make inquiries as to the necessity for additional housing accommodation.

Union Assessment Committees.

asked whether the circular headed Union Assessment Committees, the Rating Act, 1874, issued by the Local Government Board on 18th April, 1910, has been sent to all the union assessment committee in the country; and, if so, why a copy has not been received by the Basford Union of Nottinghamshire?

The circular referred to was sent to all the Union Assessment Committees. I shall be pleased, however, to send the Basford Committee another copy

Bermondsey Poor Law Guardians.

asked the President of the Local Government Board whether he is aware that dissatisfaction exists in Bermondsey owing to the delay of the Local Government Board in granting an inquiry into the alleged acts of maladministration of the Poor Law guardians in Bermondsey; and whether he will see his way to expedite the inquiry which has been demanded

I addressed a communication on this subject to the guardians last week. I will undertake to see that there is no undue delay in dealing with the matter.

Gas Companies (Standard Burner) Bills.

asked the President of the Local Government Board, in regard to the Gas Companies (Standard Burner) Bills, Nos. 1, 2, and 3, whether he is aware that, under the Acts and Orders relating to such companies, the local authorities are charged with the making of the official tests; whether he has any official information showing that if the Bills are passed the gas supplied will be of a considerably lower illuminating and calorific power; whether he is aware that the fact of grouping in one Bill the proposals of a large number of companies renders it practically impossible for each local authority to put before the Committee the grounds of their objection to the Bill as affecting the particular company supplying their locality; and whether any local authorities have lodged objection to the Bills?

My right hon. Friend has asked me to reply to this question. The testing of gas is in the hands of local authorities, subject to the provisions of the Gasworks Clauses Act, 1871, and of the local Acts and Orders relating to the respective companies. I have no official information as to what will be the effect of these Bills if they become law. I understand that various local authorities opposed the Bills before the Committee to which they were referred, and I have seen the Reports from the Committee, which state that in the opinion of the Committee "the inclusion of several cases in the Bill did not present any difficulty in the submission separately of any of the cases in opposition."

Bleaching Flour.

asked the President of the Local Government Board whether he can supply information as to the relative selling price of flour per sack before the flour has been submitted to the chemical process of bleaching, and after it has been so treated; and to what degree is the price of flour affected by the artificially added whiteness obtained by bleaching?

Diseased Meat (Hobbs v. Winchester Corporation).

asked the President of the Local Government Board whether his attention has been called to the recent decision of Mr. Justice Channell in Hobbs v. Winchester Corporation (21st March, 1910), Which will render it practically impossible for local authorities to take proceedings for condemnation of diseased meat or unsound food as they make themselves liable for damages, even where the meat or food is condemned when the owner is not personally to blame; and will he take steps to introduce legislation to amend the Public Health Act, 1875, so as to make it clear that consequential damage cannot be recovered, as has been decided in Ireland in the case of Smith v. Belfast Corporation, a decision now shaken by the Winchester case?

My attention has been called to the case referred to. The decision of Mr. Justice Channell was reversed in the Court of Appeal.

Newcastle-on-Tyne Workhorse Hospital.

asked the President of the Local Government Board if he was aware that a number of the patients in the workhouse hospital, Newcastle-on-Tyne, have been compelled to lie on the floor of the wards owing to lack of accommodation; and, if so, whether he is prepared to take any steps to remedy this matter?

I am aware that the accommodation in the workhouse infirmary is insufficient, and I have for some time been in correspondence with the guardians on the subject. A further letter pressing the guardians to deal with the question immediately is being sent to them to-day.

Illegitimate Births (England and Wales).

asked the President of the Local Government Board if he would state the number of illegitimate births in England and Wales during each of the years 1901 to 1909, both inclusive; and what was the percentage respectively to the number of births in each year?

The number of illegitimate births registered in England and Wales during each of the years 1901 to 1908, and the percentage to the total number of births registered in each year were as follows:—

No. of Illegitimate Births Percentage of T't1 Births. 1901 … … 36,199 3.9 1902 … … 36,674 3.9 1903 … … 37,302 3.9 1904 … … 37,674 4.0 1905 … … 37,315 4.0 1906 … … 37,390 4.0 1907 … … 36,189 3.9 1908 … … 37,531 4.0

The figures for the year 1909 are not yet tabulated.

Suicides (England and Wales).

asked the President of the Local Government Board if he will state the number of suicides, including cases of felo de se, in England and Wales in each of the years 1901 to 1909, both inclusive; and what was the proportion they bore respectively to the estimated population in each year?

The number of suicides, including cases of felo de se, registered in England and Wales in each of the years 1901 to 1908, and the proportion to estimated population in each year, were as follows:—

Number of Suicides. Proportion per Million of Estimated Population. 1901 … … … 3,121 … 96 1902 … … … 3,267 … 99 1903 … … … 3,511 … 105 1904 … … … 3,345 … 99 1905 … … … 3,545 … 104 1906 … … … 3,452 … 100 1907 … … … 3,533 … 101 1908 … … … 3,778 … 107

The figures for the year 1909 are not yet tabulated.

Tuberculous Diseases (Death Rate).

asked the President of the Local Government Board if he will state what was the death rate from consumption and from other tuberculous diseases, respectively, per 10,000 of the population in each of the years 1901 to 1909, both inclusive?

The death rates from consumption and from other tuberculous diseases per 10,000 of the estimated population in each of the years 1901 to 1908 were as follows:—

Consumption. Other Tuberculous Disease. 1901 12.64 5.43 1902 12.33 5.08 1903 12.03 5.39 1904 12.36 5.41 1905 11.40 4.92 1906 11.50 4.94 1907 11.40 4.65 1908 11.15 4.68

The figures for the year 1909 are not yet tabulated.

Generalised Vaccinia.

asked the President of the Local Government Board whether any inquiry was instituted by the Board in regard to the death of May Ellen Thody, of Hawthorne Grove, Penge, which occurred on 18th March last, and which was certified to be due to vaccination and septic poisoning; and if he will state the result of such inquiry?

An inquiry was instituted in the case referred to. The child in question was vaccinated by a private practitioner; the condition following vaccination appears to have been generalised vaccinia, an extremely rare complication of vaccination.

Labour Exchanges.

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he will instruct the Labour Exchange officials to remonstrate with employers who apply for smart boys from school to perform work of no educational value, and to press them to accept for such posts the services the men who, on account of defective physique or training, they are unable to place in situations at a man's wage?

I am in sympathy with the object which the Noble Lord has in view, and I have hopes that some progress will be made in this direction through the instrumentality of the Special Advisory Committees for Juvenile Employment which are now being constituted in connection with Labour Exchanges. As the Noble Lord is aware, Labour Exchanges possess no compulsory powers, and he will, I am sure, agree that much tact and caution are necessary in attempting to persuade employers to change their methods of conducting their business.

asked whether the statistics of the Labour Exchanges show that 6,522 children were placed in situations in June as compared with 3,970 in May; and how many of these were registered in accordance with a scheme prepared by the local education authority and approved by the Board of Education, as provided by Regulation No. 6 (1) ( a ) of the special rules with regard to the registration of juvenile applicants?

The figures quoted by the Noble Lord appear to be compiled from tables appearing in the "Labour Gazette," which do not, however, relate to precise calendar months or to equal periods of time. In the former case the period covered was thirty working days; in the latter twenty-two only. The increase itself is both actually and proportionately a good deal less than that amongst adults. So far as I am aware, no education authorities have as yet submitted schemes for approval under the Regulation referred to.

asked how many Labour Exchanges will be open in North Wales by the end of the current year, and at what places?

It is hoped that Labour Exchanges will be opened during the present year at Carnarvon, Festiniog, and Wrexham.

Loss of Steamship "Waratah."

asked what progress has been made with the inquiry into the loss of the "Waratah"; and whether the evidence already taken abroad throws any light upon the cause of the disaster?

The greater part of the evidence respecting the loss of the "Waratah" has been collected, but the remainder must be obtained before the inquiry can be properly held. As some of this evidence is to come from vessels now abroad, I fear some time must yet elapse before the case is complete. I am unable at this stage to give any information as to the nature of the evidence collected.

Loss of Steamship "Thistlemor."

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he has been giving his attention to the Report of the Court of Inquiry into the loss of the steamship "Thistlemor," with a view to taking such steps as will minimise the danger of such losses occurring owing to the distress signals of ships being unseen or neglected?

The Report of the Court of Inquiry into the loss of the steamship "Thistlemor" has been receiving the careful consideration of the Board of Trade and the Admiralty, and action is being taken with the object of improving the arrangements for watching for distress signals and wrecks in Barnstaple Bay. The existing arrangements for watching on the coasts of the United Kingdom generally are, as I have already informed my hon. Friend, being ascertained by means of investigation locally. The Board of Trade are in receipt of reports covering a large extent of coast, and are taking steps with the object of strengthening the existing arrangements where necessary.

Port of London (Casual Labour).

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he has received from the Port of London Authority any report of the steps taken to deal with casual labour in the Port of London, as provided by Parliament in Section 27 of the Port of London Act, 1908; and, if so, whether he can make any statement to the House on the subject?

I have not yet received any report from the Port of London Authority as to steps they have taken or propose to take to deal with casual labour under Section 28 of the Port of London Act, 1908, but I understand that the matter has been for some time under the careful consideration of the authority.

Variation in Trade Union Wages.

asked the President of the Board of Trade what are the total annual increases or decreases in the wages of those trade unionists making returns to his Department for the year 1904 and each succeeding year up to and ending the year 1909; and what is the number of trade unionists making returns for each of those years?

The returns of Changes in Rates of Wages received by the Board of Trade do not specify, for the great majority of workpeople affected, whether they are trade unionists or not. The information desired cannot therefore be given.

Irish Railway Pensions.

asked what pensions have been given or compensation paid by the Great Southern and Western Railway Company, under Section 24 of the Great Southern and Western and Waterford, Limerick, and Western Railway Companies Amalgamated Act, 1900, to officials or other persons employed by the Waterford Company whose services were dispensed with or salaries diminished upon the amalgamation; and what are the names of the persons who received such pensions and compensation?

As I stated in reply to the question which the hon. Member addressed to me on the 4th instant, the Board of Trade have no information on this subject.

Bankruptcy Law (Departmental Committee).

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he intends to introduce legislation to carry into effect the unanimous recommendations of the Departmental Committee appointed to inquire into the laws relating to bankruptcy, and to report what Amendments were required in connection therewith; whether he is aware that the Committee presented their Report in April, 1908, and that their recommendations have been considered by nearly every commercial organisation in the Kingdom, and in the main have been heartily approved; and whether he will consider the advisability of utilising the Recess in order to prepare a Bill for the Autumn Session?

I would refer the hon. Member to the answer on this subject which I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for East Northamptonshire on the 20th instant, of which I am sending him a copy.

Canals and Waterways (Royal Commission).

asked the President of the Board of Trade when the Report of the Royal Commission on Canals and Waterways in reference to Ireland is expected to be published?

My right hon. Friend has asked me to answer this question. I would refer the hon. Member to the reply which I gave to the hon. Member for Tipperary (East) on 7th July last.

Blackburn Post Office.

asked the Postmaster-General if he could state what is the index number of the units of work for the post office of Blackburn as shown by the last census of work; and if the status of the outdoor staff will be raised as a result?

According to the latest complete Returns of work for Blackburn, obtained in 1909, the number of units is 463; and no improvement in the classification of the outdoor staff is warranted.

Port Talbot Post Office.

asked what is the index number of the units of work as shown by the last census of work for the post office of Port Talbot; and on what basis is the cost of living for this place fixed?

The units of work amount to 101. The cost of living in Port Talbot was estimated, by analogy from returns obtained with regard to other towns in the same county, to be about normal.

Telephone Exchanges (Sunday).

asked the Postmaster-General if he could see his way to arrange that all country telephone exchanges should be open on Sundays at a uniform time?

All provincial post office telephone exchanges, the majority of which are in villages or very small towns, are open during the period fixed for telegraph business—namely, from 8.30 a.m. to 10 a.m. A considerable number are open for longer periods or con- tinuously to meet local requirements, and I do not think there would be any advantage in limiting the attendance to a uniform period at all exchanges.

Post Office Promotion.

asked the Postmaster-General whether, in view of the slowness of promotion on the Supplementary Establishment of the Secretary's Office, the claims of that establishment to promotion to higher administrative posts, and the satisfaction given by similar promotions in the past, he will promote a supplementary clerk to the vacancy caused in the higher division by the death of Mr. Oakshott, the assistant secretary?

The desire of the Supplementary Establishment of the Secretary's Office to receive promotion to the higher administrative posts, usually reserved for the officers who pass into the Post Office by the open competition for the higher grade of the Civil Service, will not be overlooked in connection with the promotions which will result from the death which has just occurred of this able and zealous officer.

Soldiers in Post Office Employment.

asked the Postmaster-General whether he is aware of the discontent created among the postal telegraph staff in Cork, and among the commercial community in general, owing to the employment of soldiers of the Royal Engineers to do the work of civilians who are obliged to pass competitive examinations for their offices; and whether he will take care that, so far as the introduction of Royal Engineers may be necessary for purposes of military instruction, their employment will be paid for out of Army funds, and will have no injurious effect either upon the numbers or emoluments of the civilian members of the regular staff?

There seems to be considerable misapprehension with regard to the Royal Engineer boy learners at present being trained in telegraphy in the post office at Cork. These boys are in excess of the normal staff requirements of the Cork office, and their admission will not affect the numbers or the emoluments of the civilian staff.

Telephone System (Dungarvan).

asked the Postmaster-General whether he has arranged for an extension of the telephone system to Dungarvan; and whether the same will also be extended to Lismore and Cappoquin, which are convenient?

An extension of the telephone system to Dungarvan under guarantee has been offered if twenty subscribers can be found for the Exchange, but I understand that only fifteen are forthcoming. The extension of the Trunk line system involves a heavy expenditure, but I will consider whether this smaller number of subscribers can be accepted, and also on what conditions Lismore and Cappoquin can be served at the same time.

London Postal Service (Male Sorters and Telegraphists).

asked the Postmaster-General if he will state the number of male sorters appointed in the London postal service in each of the years 1907 and 1908; and the number of male telegraph learners and fully qualified male telegraphists appointed in London in the years 1907 to 1910, respectively?

The figures asked for are as follows:—

Male Sorters, London. Year ended 31st March. Number of Male Sorters appointed. 1907 … … … … 227 1908 … … … … 198

Male Learners and Male Telegraphists, London. Year ended 31st March. Number of persons appointed as Male Leareners. Male Telegraphists (including Counter Clerks and Telegraphists.) 1907 … 70 102 1908 … 67 92 1909 … 100 59 1910 … 25 61

Post Office (Boy Messengers).

asked the Postmaster-General if he will state the number of lads in the provinces who left the Post Office service on reaching the age limit for telegraph messengers, for whom no other employment could be found in the Post Office?

The figures for the years 1907 to 1910 inclusive, are being obtained and will be communicated to the hon. Member.

asked the Postmaster-General if he will explain why more telegraph messengers were recruited in each of the years from 1907 to 1910, respectively, than there were vacancies caused through the lads having to leave the service on reaching the age limit, and more than are accounted for by the combined number of appointments as sorters, postmen, and porters, and by boys leaving the service for the aforementioned reason?

The hon. Member has not taken into account all the appointments open to boy messengers. Besides those mentioned there are others, such as learnerships, paper-keeperships, etc., which absorb a certain number of boys, and there is also a steady wastage of the messenger force due to resignations, dismissals, and rejections on medical grounds, all of which tend to destroy the relation between the two sets of figures compared in the question.

asked the Postmaster-General whether the indoor duties upon which it is proposed to employ girl messengers have hitherto been, or are still being, performed by boy messengers; and whether he will hold over the employment of girls as messengers until after the Report of the Committee on boy messengers is issued?

The indoor duties upon which it is proposed to employ girl probationers are at present being performed by boy messengers, though some slight rearrangement of the duties will be necessary in most cases. The Committee on boy labour is a standing Committee and has already pronounced favourably on the proposal.

Provincial Post Offices (Sorting Clerks and Others.)

asked the Postmaster-General if he will state the number of men added to the Post Office establishment in the provinces as sorting clerks and telegraphists, postmen, and porters, respectively, in each year from 1907 to 1910, inclusive; and the number of lads who entered the Post Office service as telegraph messengers in the provinces in each year from 1907 to 1910, inclusive?

This information will take some time to obtain. I will communicate with the hon. Member when it is available.

Bishopsgate Street Without Sub-Post Office,

asked the Postmaster-General whether the town sub-office at Bishopsgate Street Without is at the present time being worked by staff under the direct control of his Department; and whether, in view of the importance and volume of the work done at this office, he will consider the question of making it a branch office with an established staff?

The town sub-office at Bishopsgate Street Without is at the present time being worked by the assistants previously employed by the town sub-postmaster, who has resigned. These assistants are under direct Departmental control, and are paid directly by the Post Office. The question of establishing a branch office in place of the present town sub-office is receiving consideration.

Bradford Post Office.

asked the Postmaster- General whether a telegraphist who was withdrawn from the Bradford office a year ago for special wire purposes has been replaced during the whole of that period by unestablished labour; whether boy messengers are also being employed on fulltime telegraph duties at a wage of 15s. per week; and whether, notwithstanding the fact that casual labour has been introduced into the office, the permanent staff are being called upon to perform excessive overtime; and if he will make inquiry into the need for an increase of the permanent establishment?

Kew Gardens (Sunday Labour).

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Board of Agriculture whether he can state the number of men employed on Sunday in Kew Gardens; and whether it would be practicable to give the men so employed a day of rest every alternate Sunday?

The average number employed is seventy-eight in summer and sixty-one in winter. It would not be possible without increasing the staff to give effect to my hon. Friend's suggestion.

Swine Fever Order (South Hunts).

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Board of Agriculture whether his attention has been drawn to a resolution passed last Monday by the Hunts Chamber of Agriculture requesting the Board of Agriculture to withdraw a swine fever order for that county now in force; whether he can state why this order was issued; and whether present conditions justify its retention?

The answer to the first part of the question is in the affirmative. The order was imposed owing to the recurrence of swine fever in South Hunts. The present position would not justify its withdrawal, but the Board are considering whether the area to which the restrictions apply might not now with safety be materially reduced.

asked how many of the nineteen cases of swine Lever found and reported by the police in Huntingdonshire between January and June last were traceable to the markets of the county; and whether during the same period not a single case was discovered by the officials of the Board of Agriculture, in spite of stringent inspection on their part?

It was ascertained that there had been recent market movement in respect of swine involved in six of the cases mentioned. One case was discovered as the result of inquiries connected with another outbreak by an official of the Board.

Foreign Hay and Straw (Foot-and-Mouth Disease).

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Board of Agriculture whether restrictions were placed upon the importation of foreign hay and straw following an outbreak of foot-and-mouth disease in Edinburgh in 1908; and, if so, to which foreign countries they applied?

The reply to the first part of the question is in the affirmative. The foreign countries to which the restrictions apply are fully set out in the Order, a copy of which I am sending the hon. Member.

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Board of Agriculture if he will say under what conditions hay, straw, and cattle foods can enter this country; and whether they are now imported free of restriction?

The importation of hay and straw is controlled by the Foreign Hay and Straw Order, a copy of which I am sending the hon. Member. There are no restrictions on the importation of cattle foods.

Outbreak of Foot-and-Mouth Disease near Ripon.

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Board of Agriculture whether the recent outbreak of foot-and-mouth disease in the West Riding of Yorkshire is traceable to the importation of any hay, straw, or other cattle foods?

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Board of Agriculture if he is prepared to state the extent to which Argentina is free from foot-and-mouth disease; whether any recent representations have been made to the Board by the Argentine Government regarding their desire to be allowed to export live cattle to this country; and whether, in the event of such representations being received, they will receive that consideration which one friendly nation is entitled to expect to receive at the hands of another friendly country?

We have had no information since the middle of last month as to the spread of foot-and-mouth disease in Argentina. At that time it appeared to be confined to the provinces of Entre Rios, Corrientes, and the northern parts of Santa Fe, and the territories of Chaco and Formosa. The reply to the second part of the question is in the negative, and in the affirmative to the last part.

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Board of Agriculture if his attention has been called to the Resolution passed at the last meeting of the Court of Common Council of the Corporation of London, urging that our ports should be reopened for the importation of live stock from Argentina under proper regulations for the exclusion of disease; whether he has received similar representations from meat traders and other associations; whether he is aware that the continued refusal of the Board to readmit cattle from Argentina and other countries is having the effect of strengthening the monopoly held by the American Beef Trust over the meat trade of this country; and if he is prepared to give favourable consideration to any representations placed before him on this subject?

The replies to the first and second parts of the question are in the affirmative, in the negative to the third, and I can assure my hon. Friend that the Board will give full consideration to any representation that may be made to them on this subject.

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Board of Agriculture whether the Board has yet any knowledge or suspicion as to the origin of the outbreak of foot-and-mouth disease in Yorkshire; and whether, and in what way, investigation into this matter is still being pursued?

The Board have not as yet any knowledge or suspicion as to the origin of the outbreak. Their inspectors are engaged upon a close examination of all the facts of the case, and are investigating the various suggestions which have been made.

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Board of Agriculture whether any animals upon the farm adjacent to North Close Farm other than those grazing in the same field as the stock found to be affected with foot-and-mouth disease at the time of its detection have been slaughtered; and, if not, whether the Board will, in order to guard against the spread of the disease from the source of infection, consider the desirability of slaughtering forthwith all animals upon such adjacent farm as have at any time been in the same field, yard, or shed, or otherwise in actual or possible contact with this diseased animal?

The reply to the first part of the question is in the negative. All the animals which have recently been in contact with the diseased animal have been slaughtered. The Board do not consider it necessary or desirable to slaughter any others.

County Councils (Small Holders).

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Board of Agriculture whether the payment of rent by small holders to county councils is half-yearly; and, if so, whether he will use his influence to induce county councils to give their tenants two or three months' grace in which to pay?

Sheep Dipping (Wales).

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Board of Agriculture, whether his attention has been called to a recent inquiry held before the public health committee of the Cardiganshire County Council, from which it appears that unfounded charges were made by the Board of Agriculture against the administration by the local authority of the Sheep Dipping Order of 1905; whether he is aware that these charges were made on statements made by Welsh-speaking farmers to inspectors not conversant with the Welsh language; whether this absence of the knowledge of Welsh on the part of the inspectors was the sole cause of the misunderstanding; and whether he will take steps to see that only inspectors with a knowledge of Welsh are appointed in Welsh districts in the future?

Yes, Sir, and the matter is under consideration. It would not be practicable to arrange that none but Welsh-speaking inspectors should undertake business in Wales, but Welsh speaking inspectors have recently been added to the staff, and they are, as far as possible, employed in that country.

Sheep Scab.

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Board of Agriculture if, in view of the slow progress made in stamping out sheep scab during the last four years, he will so modify the Board's policy in respect to this matter as to master the stamping out of the disease, whilst not imposing irritating and costly removal regulations upon flock owners and dealers in districts where cases of scab rarely occur?

The Board are not aware of any good reason for modifying their present policy in regard to the eradication of sheep scab. Their Regulations are framed so as to cause as little inconvenience as possible to those concerned, and are never imposed unless absolutely necessary.

Marine Biological Station (East Coast).

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Board of Agriculture if, in view of what is being done in other countries for improving the supply of sea fish, he will consider the desirability of establishing a permanent marine biological station on some part of the eastern coast of Great Britain?

Local Horse Registers.

asked whether the attention of the Board has been drawn to the existence in connection with farmers' clubs in West Gloucestershire and North Devon of local horse registers wherein, after careful examination once a year by the leading veterinary surgeon of the district, all mares and stallions found to be free from hereditary unsoundness may be so entered for a period of twelve months; and whether, with a view to stimulating the production by farmers and other breeders of sound horses of various types suitable for military requirements and of enabling the War Office to know where such horses are to be found, the Board will give definite advice and encouragement to other agricultural associations throughout the country to bring similar registers into existence?

The reply to the first part of the question is in the affirmative. The Board will bear in mind the suggestion made in the second part.

Ruchill Hospital, Glasgow (Treatment of Child Patients).

asked the Lord Advocate whether the Scottish Office recently received complaints regarding the treatment of child patients in Ruchill Hospital, Glasgow; whether, on these complaints, Dr. Dittmar or another medical investigator was sent to make inquiries; and, if so, what was the report made by Dr. Dittmar, and when does the Department intend to make it public?

A complaint has been received regarding the treatment of one child patient in Ruchill Hospital, Glasgow. Enquiry has been made by Dr. Dittmar, Medical Inspector to the Local Government Board. His report, which is not a public document, is being communicated to the local authority of the city of Glasgow for their consideration.

Detention of Inebriates (Scotland).

asked the Lord Advocate whether he proposes to introduce legislation giving effect to the recommendations contained in the Report of the Departmental Committee on the operation in Scotland of the law relating to inebriates and their detention in reformatories and retreats, issued in June of last year; and whether, looking to the difficulty of getting Procurators Fiscal in Scotland to proceed against criminal habitual drunkards by way of indictment, he will consider as to the amendment of Section 23 of the Inebriates Act, 1898, so that its provisions shall apply to the case of offences tried summarily as well as those tried by indictment?

I am not aware that there is any difficulty in getting Procurators Fiscal in Scotland to proceed against criminal habitual drunkards by way of indictment, provided that evidence is available sufficient to prove that the accused is an habitual drunkard. The propriety of introducing legislation to give effect to the recommendations contained in the Report referred to by my hon. Friend is under consideration.

Scottish Harbours and Fisheries (Development).

asked the Lord Advocate whether the Fishery Board for Scotland have made application to the Development Commissioners for a Grant towards the construction and improvement of Scottish harbours and also for the development of Scottish fisheries under Part I., Section 1 (1) ( e ) and ( f ) of the Development and Road Improvement Funds Act, 1909; and, if not, whether the Board will consider as to taking action in the matter with a view to securing Grants for these purposes?

The question of procedure in regard to applications to the Development Commissioners is receiving attention and the propriety of the course suggested by my hon. Friend is one of the matters under consideration.

Education Code (Scotland).

asked the Lord Advocate whether he could arrange that school boards should receive notice of proposed changes in the code three months before the code is laid upon the Table; that a further three months should elapse before the code becomes operative; and that reasonable facilities should be given for Parliamentary discussion?

I would refer the hon. Member to my answer on 4th July to a similar question addressed to me by the hon. Member for Dumbartonshire.

Education (Scotland) Fund.

asked the Lord Advocate what was the amount paid into the Education (Scotland) Fund from the various sources specified in Section 15 of the Education (Scotland) Act, 1908, both separately and in the aggregate; what was the amount deducted in respect of the 12s. free grant from the amount under (6) of that Section, for the year ending 31st March, 1910; what were the amounts applied during that year to the various purposes mentioned in Section 16 (1) of that Act, both separately and in the aggregate; and what was the amount of the balance of the fund mentioned in Section 16 (2) at the end of that year?

The particulars required are given on page 30 of the Report of the Committee of Council on Education in Scotland for 1909–10 (Cd. 5252). The amount deducted from the General Aid Grant in order to maintain the Fee Grant at 12s. per child in average attendance as provided in Section 15 (6) of the Education (Scotland) Act, 1908, was £73,923 16s.

Carter Charities, Filkins, Oxfordshire.

asked the hon. Member for the Stroud Division, as representing the Charity Commissioners, when the trusts of the Carter Charities will be administered as far as relates to the parish of Filkins, Oxfordshire; and what has been the reason of the delay in administering the said trusts?

A scheme for the administration of the share of the Carter Charities, belonging to the parish of Filkins, will be made as soon as it has been possible to obtain the final accounts of the residuary estate of the founder and to ascertain therefrom the amount available for that parish. The delay that has occurred has been due to the difficulty of obtaining these accounts. The Commissioners are pressing for them to be completed.

Football Grounds (Royal Parks).

asked the First Commissioner of Works whether the football grounds in Regent's Park and other Royal parks are available for junior teams on Saturday mornings; and, if not, whether the regulations could be altered?

Junior teams are allowed to play football in the Royal parks on Saturday mornings, except in Regent's Park, where it has been found that the soil, being clay, will not admit of the football grounds being used more than once a day.

Persons in Permanent Government Employment.

asked the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster what was the total number of persons, not at the time of appointment in permanent Government employment, who had been appointed since January, 1906, to positions in his Department with salaries exceeding £100 a year, and who did not previously to their appointment pass an examination by the Civil Service Commissioners; and what was the total annual value of their salaries

The Members of the Duchy staff are not technically in Government employment. No person has been appointed since January, 1906, to a permanent position in my Department with a salary over £100 who was not then in the employment of my Department.