Written Answers
Old Age Pensions
asked the Secretary to the Treasury whether his attention has been called to the case of Thomas Edwards, of Blackburn, an ex-soldier of twenty-six years' service in India, who having been awarded a pension of 4s. a week by the Blackburn local pension subcommittee, was refused the pension by the Local Government Board on the ground that he had not lived twelve out of the last twenty years in the United Kingdom; and whether, in view of the fact that from 1896 to 1910 Edwards was in the employ of persons holding office under the Crown, he can see his way to grant the pension under Section 3 (2) (a) of the Old Age Pensions Act, 1911?
My right hon. Friend has asked me to reply to this question. I am aware of the facts of the case to which the hon. Member refers. The provisions of Section 3 (2) (a) of the Old Age Pensions Act, 1911, would not apply to the claimant unless it could be shown that the persons in whose employment he was were in service under the Crown, the remuneration for which is paid out of moneys provided by Parliament. I am not empowered to relax or disregard any of the statutory conditions relating to the grant of old age pensions.
The Land Inquiry
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if any, and which, of the land agents and surveyors who were employed by the Government at the time of the progress through the House of Commons of the Budget of 1909 are now being employed in any way by the Committee appointed by the Prime Minister and the Chancellor of the Exchequer to inquire into the land question?
I will refer the hon. Member to the answers that I gave yesterday on this subject.
Road Surfacing
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether) as it is admitted that Colonel Crompton, the consulting engineer of the Road Board, frequently acts as consulting engineer to Taroads, Limited, and the Praed Construction Company, Limited, the Road Board consider this consistent with his duty as their adviser on various competing methods of road surfacing; and, if so, whether the other competing companies are at liberty to secure the impartiality of Colonel Crompton's advice by also employing him as their consulting engineer?
The Road Board are informed by Colonel Crompton that, in accordance with the usual practice of his profession, he acts as consulting engineer for any clients who desire to employ him. The Board consider this is consistent with the satisfactory discharge of the duties which they require from him as their consulting engineer.
also asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether the Road Board in the summer of 1911 invited various companies engaged in making road surfaces by special proprietary processes to lay down experimental lengths on a road at Sidcup, and required them as a condition of competing to send in specifications and descriptions of their processes; whether these specifications came before Colonel Crompton, as consulting engineer of the Board, and were reported upon by him as such; whether, after having acquired this experience, he applied on the 5th October, 1911, for a patent for a method of road surfacing, which has since been granted under an amended description; and whether Taroads, Limited, and the Praed Construction Company, Limited, are using any machinery and methods covered by this patent?
The descriptions of the materials used by various contractors in the Sidcup road trial lengths contained nothing of a confidential nature. These descriptions and Colonel Crompton's report on them were set forth in a pamphlet issued by the Road Board in July, 1911, and publicly distributed. I understand that neither Taroads, Limited, nor the Praed Construction Company, Limited, are using any machinery or methods covered by the patent referred to in the question, and that such patent does not relate to any method of road surfacing used in any of the trial lengths at Sidcup.
Site Values
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will explain why the site value of agricultural land, as ascertained under the valuation set up by the Finance (1909–10) Act, 1910, is not the bare value of land, but is taken to include a large proportion of value attributable to owners' improvements?
I refer the hon. Member to the provisions of Section 25 (4) (b) of the Finance (1909–10) Act, 1910, which precludes allowance being made in respect of improvements which only enhance the value of the land for agricultural purposes.
Increment Value Duty
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many occasion valuations made in Great Britain up to and including 30th September, 1912, had resulted in claims being made for Increment Value Duty; and how many of such claims had been substantiated?
The answer to the first part of the question is 955 and to the latter part 798.
asked the Chancellor whether, seeing that an inquiry as to whether the true site value of agricultural land is being ascertained, and whether Increment Value Duty is being claimed when there is no rise in site value, involves questions with which a committee of experts are eminently qualified to deal, he will, after affording the House an opportunity of discussing the terms of reference and constitution, set up such a Committee to deal with these and other matters of practical valuation?
I can only refer the hon. Member to the answers that I gave him on the 16th October.
Historical Monuments Reports
asked the Chancellor whether he could see his way to give instructions that Members applying for the bound copies of Ancient and Historical Monuments for England, Scotland, Wales, and Ireland, may have them delivered to them free in the same way that they can obtain the bound volumes of the Historical Manuscripts?
The Reports of the Royal Commissions on the Ancient and Historical Monuments for England, Scotland, and Wales, are duly presented to Parliament and copies are available for every hon. Member. But the illustrated inventories to the Reports of the Historical Monuments Commissions, which are works of unique character, appear to fall within the category of publications that, in the judgment of the Select Committee on Publications, etc., should not be distributed gratuitously to Members. Copies will be found in the Library of the House, and they may be purchased from any bookseller.
National Insurance Act
Sub-Postmasters (Additional Work)
asked the Postmaster-General, whether the sub-postmasters are allowed any extra remuneration for the additional work which they have to perform in connection with the National Insurance Act; and, if so, upon what scale are they paid?
I beg to refer the hon. Member to the reply given to a similar question on the 22nd instant.
Approved Societies (Rules)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if his attention has been called to the fact that in the case of certain approved societies members are informed that if they desire to ascertain the extent and character of the benefits to which they are entitled and the mode of procedure to be followed in applying for them they must purchase a book of the rules of the society; and will he say if the charge thus made for the information is in accordance with the provisions of the Act or of the regulations of the Insurance Commissioners?
A society may provide by its rules that copies of the rules shall be supplied to members on demand at a fixed charge. I may point out that the sums so received are set off against the cost of printing, which would otherwise have to be defrayed wholly out of the administration account of the society.
Government Of Ireland Bill
Irish Products And Manufactures
asked the Postmaster-General whether the Government of Ireland Bill imposes any limitation on the power of an Irish Parliament to grant bounties either on the production or export of Irish products or manufactures?
Bounties on export would affect trade with places out of Ireland and are therefore precluded by Clause 2 (7). As I have stated in reply to previous questions, the Irish Parliament is not prevented from making grants from Irish revenues to particular industries.
Collection Of Taxes
asked the Postmaster-General whether the Government of Ireland Bill requires that any deduction should be made from the transferred sum where any addition to the rate of a tax should be accompanied by a diminution of the total proceeds of the tax or where the cost of collection and administration of any Irish tax should be in excess of the proceeds?
The answer is in the negative.
Police Protection (Ireland)
asked the Chief Secretary whether he will give a Return of the total number of persons now receiving police protection, either constant or by patrols, with names and districts in which such persons reside; and a Return of the number of persons now boycotted in any way, and the total number of extra police now employed in Irish counties, showing the number by counties in each case?
presented the following Return of persons receiving special police protection on the 30th September, 1912:—
| County. | District. | Number Receiving Constant Protection. | Number Receiving Patrol Protection. | Total. | |
| Cavan | … | Virginia | 1 | — | 1 |
| Cavan | … | Cavan | 1 | — | 1 |
| Cavan | … | Swanlinbar | — | 1 | 1 |
| Londonderry | … | Londonderry | — | 1 | 1 |
| Kilkenny | … | Thomastown | 1 | — | 1 |
| King's | … | Birr | 1 | — | 1 |
| King's | … | Banagher | — | 2 | 2 |
| King's | … | Edenderry | — | 1 | 1 |
| Longford | … | Longford | 1 | — | 1 |
| Meath | … | Navan | 1 | — | 1 |
| Queen's | … | Abbeyleix | 1 | 1 | 2 |
| Queen's | … | Maryboro' | 1 | 1 | 2 |
| Westmeath | … | Castlepollard | — | 1 | 1 |
| Westmeath | … | Moate | — | 3 | 3 |
| Galway, E. R | … | Athenry | 8 | 50 | 58 |
| Galway, E. R | … | Loughrea | 2 | 9 | 11 |
| Galway, E. R | … | Portumna | — | 14 | 14 |
| Galway, E. R | … | Woodford | — | 12 | 12 |
| Galway, E. R | … | Ballinasloe | — | 5 | 5 |
| Galway, W. R | … | Galway | 3 | 15 | 18 |
| Galway, W. R | … | Oughterard | — | 1 | 1 |
| Galway, W. R | … | Dunmore | — | 2 | 2 |
| Galway, W. R | … | Gort | — | 21 | 21 |
| Galway, W. R | … | Tuam | 1 | 12 | 13 |
| Mayo | … | Castlebar | — | 2 | 2 |
| Mayo | … | Ballinrobe | — | 10 | 10 |
| Mayo | … | Newport | — | 1 | 1 |
| Roscommon | … | Strokestown | 1 | — | 1 |
| Roscommon | … | Roscommon | — | 2 | 2 |
| Roscommon | … | Castlerea | — | 1 | 1 |
| Roscommon | … | Ballaghadareen | — | 1 | 1 |
| Sligo | … | Easkey | — | 1 | 1 |
| County. | District. | Number Receiving Constant Protection. | Number Receiving Patrol Protection. | Total. |
| Sligo | Sligo | — | 1 | 1 |
| Clare | Tulla | 3 | 5 | 8 |
| Clare | Corofin | 2 | 17 | 19 |
| Clare | Kilrush | 1 | 3 | 4 |
| Clare | Sixmilebridge | 2 | 9 | 11 |
| Clare | Ennis | — | 13 | 18 |
| Clare | Ennistymon | — | 3 | 3 |
| Clare | Killaloe | — | 2 | 2 |
| Cork, E. R. | Cork, North | 1 | 1 | 2 |
| Cork, E. R. | Ballineollig | — | 1 | 1 |
| Cork, E. R. | Fermoy | 2 | — | 2 |
| Cork, E. R. | Kanturk | — | 3 | 3 |
| Cork, E. R. | Kinsale | 1 | — | 1 |
| Cork, E. R. | Midleton | 3 | 1 | 4 |
| Cork, E. R. | Newmarket | 1 | — | 1 |
| Cork, E. R. | Yougbal | — | 1 | 1 |
| Cork, W.R. | Bandon | 1 | — | 1 |
| Cork, W.R. | Macroom | 2 | 2 | 4 |
| Cork, W.R. | Dunman way | — | 1 | 1 |
| Kerry | Castleisland | 3 | 2 | 5 |
| Kerry | Tralee | 4 | — | 4 |
| Kerry | Killarney | 1 | 2 | 3 |
| Kerry | Killorglin | 1 | 1 | 2 |
| Kerry | Listowel | 1 | 8 | 9 |
| Limerick | Rathkeale | 1 | 1 | 2 |
| Limerick | Abbeyfeale | — | 4 | 4 |
| Limerick | Adare | — | 1 | 1 |
| Limerick | Bruff | — | 1 | 1 |
| Limerick | Newcastle, West | — | 1 | 1 |
| Limerick | New Pallas | — | 1 | 1 |
| Tipperary, N. R. | Nenagh | — | 1 | 1 |
| Tipperary, S. R | Cashel | 1 | — | 1 |
| Tipperary, S. R | Killenaule | — | 5 | 5 |
| Tipperary, S. R | Tipperary | — | 1 | 1 |
| Waterford | Waterford | — | 1 | 1 |
| — | — | 54 | 263 | 317 |
| RETURN OF PERSONS BOYCOTTED ON THE 30TH SEPTEMBER, 1912. | |||||
| Wholly Boycotted. | Partially Boycotted. | Minor Boycotting. | |||
| No. of Cases. | No. of Persons affected. | No. of Cases. | No. of Persons affected. | No. of Cases. | No. of Persons affected. |
| 1 | 1 | 6 | 36 | 61 | 246 |
It is not desirable to publish names of the person who are being protected, as it would tend to add to their unpopularity.
The following extra police are now employed owing to disturbance in the coun- ties naked: Clare, 56; Galway E.R., 128; Galway W.R., 64; Mayo, 21; Roscommon, 15. There are also additional men employed at present in certain counties in connection with the outbreak of foot-and-mouth disease.
Bankruptcies (Ireland)
asked the Chief Secretary whether 44 per cent. of bankruptcies in Ireland came before the Belfast Court; whether the assets there realised on an average 3s. 11d. in the £; whether he can state what is the average in the £ of assets returned in the bankruptcies which occurred in the rest of Ireland; whether he can give the numbers of Presbyterians in Ulster in the Census of forty years since, and the number returned in the last Census; and whether he can give the emigration figures during the same period?
During the year ended 31st December, 1911, the latest date for which statistics are available, there were 121 cases of bankruptcy initiated in Ireland, of which 39, or 32.2 per cent., came before the Belfast Court. The amount of assets realised in these cases cannot be given until the estates are finally wound up. As regards the state of bankruptcies not finally wound up on 31st December last, full particulars will be found at pages 49, 50, and 51 of the Judicial Statistics for 1911. The number of Presbyterians in Ulster, according to Census of 1871, was 477,729, and at last Census 421,410. The natives of Ulster who emigrated from Irish ports during the forty years ended 31st March, 1911, numbered 649,676. In 1871 the number was 28,066, and in 1911 it was 12,032.
Dublin Police Bill
asked the Chief Secretary whether it is his intention before Christmas to proceed with the Dublin Police Bill to extend Sunday trade in intoxicating drink to Druncondra, Fairview, and Clontarf, which have for nearly forty years had Sunday closing?
Having regard to the state of public business, it is obvious that unless there is a general feeling in favour of the Bill it cannot be proceeded with before Christmas.
Land Purchase (Ireland)
asked the Chief Secretary whether the Leonard estate, in Warrenstown, has been sold; and, if so, will he say why Richard Casberry and two other tenants were excluded from the purchase, seeing that other tenants similarly situated have been included?
The reply to the first paragraph of the question is in the affirmative. In the case of the three tenants referred to in the question the Estates Commissioners did not consider the holdings security for the advances applied for under the Land Purchase Acts.
Dublin Hospitals
asked the names of the present Members of the Board of Superintendence of the Dublin Hospitals, and why their last report has been issued without date or signature?
The names of the present members of the board of superintendence of the Dublin hospitals are: Lord Ardilaun; J. Magee Finny, Esq., M.D.; Sir John Barry; James Inglis, Esq., J.P.; Joseph O'Carroll, Esq., M.D.; Ambrose Kelly, Esq.; Sir L. H. Ormsby, M.D.; W. F. Cotton, Esq., M.P.; C. E. Lampkin, Esq.; Miss A. M. McDonnell; Sir John Lentaigne, F.R.C.S.I.; and Miss Margaret MacNeill. The original report was dated and signed by all the members of the board, but I understand that by an over-sight the date of the report and the names of the members of the board were omitted from the report when being sent to the printer.
National Education (Ireland)
asked the Chief Secretary whether he is now in a position to say that Rule 92 (j) of the Commissioners of National Education will be withdrawn or modified, or that the Treasury will pay substitutes for the teachers penalised by it?
The whole question of the application of the rule is engaging the consideration of the Irish Government, and I hope to have before me the observations of the Commissioners of National Education on the subject after their next meeting on the 29th instant.
Royal Navy
Armoured Vessels
asked the First Lord of the Admiralty whether any name has been allotted to the armoured vessel commenced at Portsmouth on 21st October; and whether he can give the approximate dates of her launch and completion?
It is expected to launch the ship in June next, and complete her in two years from the date of laying down. No name has yet been allotted to this vessel.
asked when it is intended to lay down a new armoured vessel at Devonport dockyard, and her probable dates of launch and completion?
As soon as possible after the launch of His Majesty's ship "Marlborough," which takes place to-day. The probable date of the launch of the new vessel is June, 1913, and of her completion October, 1914, i.e., two years from laying down.
asked whether tenders have yet been invited for the two armoured ships of the current programme to be built by contract; if so, when it is hoped work on them may be commenced; and what is the date of the expiration of the contract?
Tenders for these ships have been received, and it is anticipated that work upon them will begin shortly. It is expected that the ships will be delivered early in 1915.
Ships Building (Dates Of Completion)
asked on what dates it is proposed to commission the "King George V.," "Centurion," "Queen Mary," "Princess Royal," "Conqueror," "New Zealand," and "Australia," and the reason for any probable delays?
The "Princess Royal" is the only one of these ships as yet ordered to be commissioned, the date proposed being the end of November. The latest estimate of the date of completion for the others is as follows: "King George V.," February, 1913; "Centurion," April, 1913; "Queen Mary," June, 1913; "Conqueror," November, 1912; "New Zealand," January, 1913; "Australia," April, 1913. With regard to the question of delay, it is not considered expedient to give details of the reasons whilst the ships are still uncompleted.
Rosyth Dockyard
asked the number and names of the firms who were asked to tender for the new dock works at Rosyth, and the amount of each tender?
Nineteen firms were asked to tender for the works at Rosyth. I will circulate the names with the Votes if the hon. Member wishes. It has not been customary to publish the amounts of the tenders.
asked the number of workmen employed on the Rosyth dock works on the 19th September and on the 21st October, day and night, inclusive?
| Day. | Night. | Total. | |
| On 19th September | 1,621 | 842 | 2,463 |
| On 21st October | 1,663 | 196 | 1,859 |
asked the First Lord of the Admiralty whether he has received any request from the contractor for Rosyth docks for permission to dispense with the night shift, so that an artificial surplus of labour may be temporarily obtained in the Dunfermline district to assist the local contractors in their dispute with their workmen?
The answer is in the negative. The contractor states that he intends beginning the full night shift as soon as the labour for it is available.
asked the First Lord of the Admiralty whether he will state the date when the contract of Messrs. Easton Gibb was signed, and the date when the works are to be completed; what amount has been so far earned by the contractors for completed work, and how much remains to be earned before the contract is completed; and what is the amount of the bonus offered to the contractors per week for completion under contract time?
The contract was signed on 1st March, 1909. The works are to be completed by 30th September, 1916. The amount earned up to 1st October is, approximately, £1,000,000, leaving about £1,500,000 to be earned before the contract is completed. The amount of bonus offered to the contractors for earlier completion is £900 per week.
Torpedo Station (Alenandria)
asked the First Lord of the Admiralty whether a torpedo station is to be established at Alexandria; and whether it is intended to convert Sollum into a naval base in order to the adequate protection of the Suez Canal?
The answer to the first part of the question is in the affirmative. I am not aware of any project for the establishment of a naval base at Sollum.
Austrian And Italian Armoured Ships
asked whether any Austrian or Italian armoured ships of the "Dreadnought" era have been commissioned for effective service with their respective fleets; and, if so, on what dates?
The Austro-Hungarian battleship "Viribus Unitis," commissioned on 6th October. The Italian battleship "Dante Alighieri," commissioned during the first week of September. In both cases the ships have been undergoing trials since commissioning, but we have no information as to whether they have yet joined their respective fleets.
Coastguard, Bexhill
asked the First Lord of the Admiralty whether he is aware that the Admiralty have, at short notice, made a considerable increase in the rents of a number of cottages at Bexhill, formerly part of the coastguard station; and whether, in view of the fact that the tenants of these cottages have planted their gardens and made due provision for the winter's supply of vegetables, and that loss and hardship must be inflicted if they are compelled to move to cheaper cottages, he will allow them to continue their present tenancies at the former rents?
Seven of the cottages originally occupied by the coastguard at Bexhill are let to civilians on weekly tenancies. These tenancies were arranged as a temporary measure pending the consideration of a proposal to dispose of the property. The Admiralty having decided to retain the property, it became necessary recently to rearrange the tenancies on a yearly basis with a view to obtaining a fair rental. This rental has been fixed on the advice of a responsible local estate agent. The weekly tenants have been given the option of continuing in occupation on the revised terms and conditions. As it appears difficult for the tenants to find other suitable accommodation, it has been decided to allow them time to make other arrangements.
Widows Act
asked the Secretary of State for War whether his attention has been called to the fact that Mrs. Carmody, of Limerick, who is a widow and who is also an invalid, has asked for the discharge of her son, J. Costello, who is a bandsman in the 1st King's Regiment, stationed at Aldershot; that she asks for his discharge under the Widows Act; and, as he is assured of permanent employment and wishes to keep his aged mother, will he see that her prayer is granted and that her son obtains his discharge?
No application concerning this case has reached the War Office. Applications of this character are dealt with locally by General Officers Commanding-in-Chief in accordance with the King's Regulations. Inquiry shall be made into the facts of the case.
Colchester Barracks (Wages Of Painters)
asked the Secretary of State for War, whether the Fair-Wages Clause is included in the contract for the painting of Colchester barracks; whether painters employed there on overtime and on Sundays are only receiving the ordinary day rate of wages; whether his attention was called to the matter on the 11th September last; and what steps he has taken?
Inquiry has been made and the Report furnished states that the painters have been paid at the rate of time and a half for work on Saturday after 1 p.m. and at the rate of double time for work on Sunday.
War In Balkans
asked the Secretary of State for War whether among the British attachés who may be sent to the Near East to join the operating armies, he will include an officer of the Territorial Force?
The number of military attaches for whom permission has been received to accompany the forces in the field in the Balkans is strictly limited, and all the vacancies have been filled.
Army Ordnance Department
asked the Secretary of State for War if the question of revision of rates of pay for writers in the Army Ordnance Department has been considered as promised; and, if so, will the application of these employés of the State for increased pay be granted?
This subject has been under consideration in connection with cognate questions affecting Naval Departments. Good progress has been made, and I hope to be able to make an announcement before long.