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Written Answers

Volume 71: debated on Thursday 29 April 1915

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Written Answers

War

Royal Navy (Meat Supplies)

asked the First Lord of the Admiralty if purchases of frozen meat and canned meat for use in the Royal Navy are made separately or in conjunction with the War Office purchases; what quantities approximately were acquired for the use of the Navy from 1st August to 31st December, 1914; and what prices were paid by the Admiralty approximately for these two classes of goods?

Frozen meat for the Navy is obtained under a special arrangement made by the Board of Trade with the large importers, which provides for the joint requirements of the Army and Navy. Canned meat for the Navy is purchased separately from Army requirements. The approximate quantities bought and prices paid for meat for the Navy from 1st August to 31st December, 1914, are as follows: Frozen meat, 2,000 tons, chiefly beef; average price estimated at slightly over 6d. per pound. Canned meat, 3,150 tons; average price 8¼d. per pound.

Cavalry Corps At Messines

asked the Under-Secretary for War whether, in accordance with the announced intention of Field-Marshal Sir John French, referred to in his dispatch of the 20th November last, a more detailed account of the operations of the Cavalry corps at Messines on the 30th and 31st October last will shortly be published?

The Commander-in-Chief subsequently decided not to proceed further in the matter.

Army Meat Supplies

asked the Under-Secretary for War whether, in view of the charges of corruption and fovouritism made in Smithfield Market concerning the supply of frozen meat to the Army, he will make public the prices paid for all meat supplies to the Army and the names of the firms from whom purchased since the outbreak of the War in August; and, if not, as all these Colonial supplies are now to be commandeered for the troops, will he state in what way the public interest is likely to be injured by the publication?

It is the established practice of the Department, based on grounds of policy, not to make public the prices paid under particular contracts. I am not aware of any reason why an exception should be made in this case, but, as the hon. Member knows, I have already offered to give him full information on the subject.

asked the Under-Secretary for War whether the meat expert who is advising the War Office is one Frank Knowles, a gentleman largely employed in valuer's work connected with the insurance of frozen meat cargoes; whether he held the certificate of the Royal Sanitary Institute at the date of his appointment; and whether the War Office has any reason to believe that he is dependent for any part of his income on employment by firms who import frozen meat?

Yes, Sir, I am informed that Mr. Knowles' normal occupation in peace time is in connection with the assessment of claims for damage on frozen meat cargoes under insurance. Since the outbreak of war he has acted solely for the Government. He obtained the certificate-referred to by the hon. Member after his appointment with the War Office. He is also employed in peace time by firms who import frozen meat, but solely as an arbitrator, and I am informed that this forms quite a minor source of his income.

also asked the Under-Secretary for War whether it was in consequence of the assistance of Mr. Gordon Campbell that meat was bought from and through W. Weddell and Company, Limited, and if not upon the advice of Mr. Campbell, will he say by whose advice the purchases were made; and among the meat bought through W. Weddell and Company, Limited, were any purchases effected from the John Cook and Company Proprietary, Limited, of Melbourne, Sydney, and Redbank, Queensland?

Purchases were made on Mr. Gordon Campbell's advice, not only from Messrs. Weddell and Company, but also from several other firms. Purchases were made through Messrs. Wed dell and Company from Messrs. John Cook and Company, for whom the former are agents.

Labour For The Blind

asked the Under-Secretary of State for War whether the Government are placing contracts for the supply of such articles as mattresses and mats with the institutions for the blind which are capable of producing those articles; and, if not, whether the Government will consider the desirability of so doing, and thereby releasing the labour of sighted workers, who are needed for, and are capable of, the production of other war material?

Numerous orders for such articles as brushes, brooms and basket-ware, and a few orders for bedding and mats, have been placed with institutions for the blind. There is every desire to give opportunity for work to these institutions, but they are usually not in as good a position as trade firms to offer the prompt delivery which is generally required.

Army Clothing Contracts

asked the Financial Secretary to the War Office if the women who suggested the placing of the clothing contract actually introduced Mr. Glanfield to the contract department; will he say what previous experience such persons had enjoyed in placing orders of two and a half millions sterling; whether any portion of this or other clothing contracts of the War Office has been executed in America; and, if so, upon what terms?

The Central Committee on Women's Employment, to which I understand the hon. Member to refer, was appointed by the President of the Local Government Board to devise schemes of employment for women unemployed on account of the War. Neither the Committee nor any of its members advised the placing of any contract for clothing, but they made representations for a wider distribution of contracts and suggestions for a simplification of the Service dress pattern. Mr. Glanfield was one of the commercial advisers to the Committee, and was already well known to the War Office as an army clothing contractor of high reputation. No part of the contract has been executed in America. I will furnish the hon. Member with a statement of the clothing contracts which have been placed in America.

Hut Building Contracts

also asked the Financial Secretary to the War Office whether any contracts for building huts or structures for accommodation of animals or supplies have been placed on a basis of guaranteed profits; and, if so, will he state the total sum involved in such contracts?

Huts and structures for the accommodation of animals or supplies are being built by certain firms as the agents of the War Department. For such work to the amount of about £6,000,000 these agents receive a percentage on cost by way of profit. Work to the extent of about £2,000,000 has been undertaken without profit.

Dependants' Allowances

asked the Financial Secretary to the War Office if the War Office has come to any final decision in the case of a woman whose husband has died since the War began, whilst her son, who would support her if at home, is serving with the Army; and whether, if no decision has yet been arrived at, he will use his influence to secure that an allowance should be given to her as a dependant?

I would refer the hon. Member to the answer which I gave to the hon. Member for York on the 22nd instant, a copy of which I will send to him.

Royal Gun Foundry, Woolwich

asked the Financial Secretary to the War Office whether he is aware that the men in forges in the Royal Gun Foundry, Woolwich, are complaining that, notwithstanding the appeal of the Secretary of State for War for men to do their beet, they have insufficient work given them to keep the press of the department at work for more than half the time it might be; whether his attention has been called to the fact that recently an order was given for fifteen breech-loader inner A-tube guns, and that the billets were received, but only seven were forged, the remainder being sent out to be manufactured; that of another order of thirty breech-loader guns only fifteen were forged; that of another order of twenty-one guns only five were forged; and whether he will take the necessary steps to have the department kept employed to its full capacity?

The special work of the big forging press has not been materially increased by the War, but the forges themselves have been fully occupied up to the present. As regards the second and third parts of the question, the hon. Member no doubt refers to some Admiralty orders which were subsequently withdrawn or cancelled. As regards the fourth part, the work on these guns has been temporarily suspended owing to a question of design having arisen. The foundry will be kept as fully employed as is necessary, but I am informed that the heavy forge work is slackening off.

Alien Enemies, India (Mining Concessions)

asked the Under-Secretary of State for India whether the working of mining concessions in India by, or for the profit of, alien enemies is suspended, concessions continuing till after the War for subsequent settlement, or whether the mining industry in India is to be relieved entirely of participation by alien enemies?

The action taken by the Indian Governments against hostile foreigners and hostile companies is governed by regulations made under the Foreigners Ordinance of 1914. The local government may grant or may refuse a licence to carry on business or deal with property, and in cases where a licence is refused may give instructions as to how the assets or property should be disposed of. The Secretary of State has no information as to how these powers have been exercised with regard to mining concessions.

Troops In India (Food Supplies)

asked the Under-Secretary of State for India how it is that so many complaints are being received from officers and men as to the food supplied to our troops in India?

The Secretary of State is in communication with the Government of India regarding the complaints of Territorial troops in India, and hopes to be able to make a statement on the subject shortly.

Women's Peace Congress

asked the Home Secretary on what principle, in selecting twenty-four delegates from the United Kingdom to attend the Women's Peace Congress at The Hague, he has selected only one Irish lady, and she not a delegate from any organisation; whether by enlargement or other arrangement he will select and give permits to a reasonable proportion of Irish ladies now waiting in London; and when they will be allowed to proceed to their destination?

I would refer the hon. Member to the answer which I gave to the hon. Members for North Somerset and the Bridgeton Division of Glasgow on Tuesday last.

Letters And Parcels To Soldiers

asked the Postmaster-General if he will state why letters and parcels sent to soldiers on active service, which are undelivered on account of the death of the addressee, are not returned through the War Office, or otherwise, to the home address of the deceased to be at the disposal of his representatives; and if he will give directions for this course to be followed in future?

By arrangement with the military authorities, letters and parcels addressed to soldiers on active service which are returned to the Post Office as undeliverable on account of the death of the addressees are retained until the casualties have been officially notified by the War Office to the next-of-kin, and are then returned to the senders, in accordance with the ordinary rule that all undeliverable letters and parcels must be returned to the senders.

British Prisoners Of War (Treatment In Germany)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether he will consider the desirability of issuing as a Parliamentary Paper a summary of the facts as to the treatment of British prisoners of war in Germany disclosed by the White Paper [Cd. 7817], which would convey the facts to persons in this country and in neutral countries in a convenient form?

A summary of the nature suggested in the question is already being prepared. Probably it will be sufficient to publish it; but, if desired, it can be issued also as a Parliamentary Paper.

Alien Enemies (Ownership Of Land In United Kingdom)

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Board of Agriculture whether alien enemies own land in England and Wales; and, if so, will he state how much is so owned?

Owing to the absence of any general system of registration of title in this country, no official information is available as to the names, etc., of the owners of land. It is consequently impossible to answer the hon. Member's question.

Stock Exchange Loans

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he can state what amount of money has been advanced by the Bank of England under the Treasury scheme for Stock Exchange loans, and what proportion of the amount has been lent on speculative counters; whether he is aware that the Bank of England put a new clause into the agreement for loans, making loans repayable in case of the failure to pay interest instead of only in case of bankruptcy, as provided by the scheme; whether it was intended that Stock Exchange loans should be on the same basis as loans for acceptances, neither principal nor interest being enforceable until one year after the War; whether the Treasury would consider extending the scheme so as to grant advances on Government or other investment securities on similar rates to advances on the war loan, so as to prevent sales which are being pressed on account of the high rates of interest now payable on loans on gilt-edged securities, which the Treasury scheme was intended to prevent; or whether, in the alternative, the Government will consider giving options for other Government securities to be exchanged into war loan on the basis of 2½ per cent. stocks being exchanged for 70 per cent. of war loan, 2¾ per cent. into 75 per cent. war loan, and 3 per cent. into 80 per cent. war loan, thus enabling holders who must realise to do so slightly under minimum prices, and the Government by the exchange thus saving interest and reducing the capital amount on their debt?

The amount which has been advanced by the Bank of England under the Treasury scheme for Stock Exchange loans is £520,059. All the advances are against good average securities, such as are generally accepted against loans. The clause in the agreement referred to in the question is intended only to put the terms of the Government scheme in a concise form and refers to that scheme (a copy of which is appended to the agreement) for full particulars. It was accepted by all subscribers, and in no single instance objected to in any way. It is not, and has never been, the intention that interest on loans made under the scheme should be allowed to accumulate until after the end of the War. I have given careful consideration to various suggestions which have been made on the lines indicated in the latter part of the question, but I think the objections to the adoption of any such schemes are insuperable.

Land Purchase (Ireland)

asked the Prime Minister, having regard to the urgency of the completion of land purchase in Ireland, admitted by the Government, and its importance as a means of increasing an industrial rural population there, whether the Government will this Session introduce an agreed non-contentious Bill on this subject, or allow such a Bill to be introduced by unofficial Members, with a view to its subsequent adoption if found to be non-contentious?

In view of the prime necessity of subordinating all calls on the public funds to those involved in the prosecution of the War, the Government cannot consider any proposals at the present time for the extension of land purchase, however non-contentious they might be in other circumstances.

Advances For Drainage

asked the Chief Secretary to the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland if the Board of Works in Ireland have definitely stopped all advances to farmers for drainage, the erection of hay barns, and other buildings; and whether the Board of Works will advance loans for such purposes applied for and partially investigated before August 1914?

I would refer the hon. Member to the replies given to the hon. Member for North Wexford on the 19th November last and to the hon. Member for South Wexford on the 16th. To those replies I would add that exceptions are made in favour of loans advertised or promised conditionally before the suspension was authorised.

Housing Schemes (Ireland)

asked the Chief Secretary for Ireland if he will take the three Local Government Board inspectors appointed for the purpose of holding local inquiries respecting housing schemes under the Labourers (Ireland) Acts lodged with the Local Government Board two years to complete their work; and, if so, will he consider the advisability of appointing additional inspectors to hurry the work through and enable the schemes to be completed without further delay?

At the present moment the Local Government Board are in correspondence with the Treasury on the subject of the limitations to be placed on the funds required for pending schemes, but it is certainly not in contemplation in the existing circumstances to appoint additional inspectors for the purpose mentioned.

Cottage Building (Ireland)

asked the Chief Secretary to the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, whether the Local Government Board for Ireland will grant supplemental loans to rural district councils to meet the extra cost per cottage caused by the councils being compelled, owing to the rise in the price of building material and the difficulty of securing contractors for the work, to pay more per cottage than the maximum sum at present allowed; and whether the Local Government Board for Ireland, in view of the difficulty experienced by councils in getting contractors to carry out the work, will consider the advisability of increasing the maximum amount allowed per cottage?

The practice of the Local Government Board has been when the cost of a cottage exceeds the loan sanctioned out of land purchase funds, to permit the local authority to obtain a supplemental loan in the open market, and this practice may still be pursued in particular cases, but the Board are not prepared at this juncture to alter their settled policy of limiting the amount of the advance out of land purchase funds for each cottage and plot.

Irish Land Commission

asked whether any reduction has been made in the staff of the Irish Land Commission or is it contemplated making any reduction in it and, if so, what is the reduction made or contemplated; and, seeing that any reduction made or to be made is a consequence of the War and having regard to the recommendations of Ministers to employers as to their duty to retain and provide work for their employés, what provision, in compliance with their own recommendations, has been made by the Government for the civil servants of the Irish Land Commission whose services have been or are about to be dispensed with by that Department?

My hon. Friend has asked me to reply to this question. It is the case that in the present circumstances certain reductions in the temporary staff of the Irish Land Commission have become possible and desirable and are being carried out. Thus the services of eleven temporary purchase inspectors, of two temporary assistant inspectors, and of ten temporary surveyors have already been, or will be, dispensed with, while savings will also be effected on the provision for temporary examiners of titles. The non-permanent character of these appointments has always been made clear to the holders, and I cannot recommend their retention in the public service at the present time. The reductions in the case of the permanent staff are being limited to the retirement on pension and without replacement of a number of officials who have attained the age of sixty years, when under an Order in Council they are liable to be retired at any time.

Petty Officers' Promotions

asked the First Lord of the Admiralty whether he is aware that there is considerable disparity between the time taken for an executive petty officer to reach the rank of chief petty officer as compared with the stoker petty officer; and whether the Board of Admiralty will take into consideration that a man's pension is measured by the length of time he serves as a chief petty officer and endeavour to accelerate the promotions in the executive branch of the active service ranks who are younger than the peace age of retirement?

The number of chief petty officers must be governed by the actual requirements of the Service, and uniformity in the various classes as regards opportunities for such advancements is not therefore possible. The question of accelerating, so far as practicable, promotion in the seamen class is one that has already been receiving the attention of the Admiralty, and measures have recently been taken which will provide opportunities of advancement at an earlier age to the higher rates.

India

Licensing System, Calcutta

asked the Under-Secretary of State for India whether any Report has been received upon the results of the working of the licensing boards in Calcutta and the adjoinng municipalities, as requested in paragraph 4 of Circular Letter No. 1766–1783–81 (Excise) of the Secretary to the Government of India, dated Simla, 18th March, 1914; and, if so, what further action will be taken thereon?

The Secretary of State is not aware whether the Government of India have yet received the Report in question. Inquiry will be made.

asked the Under-Secretary of State for India whether any suggestions have been made by local governments upon the desirability of initiating in suitable areas experiments in the fixed-fee system of licensing, similar to that now in operation in Bombay, as suggested in paragraph 4 of Circular No. 1766–1783–81 (Excise) of the Secretary to the Government of India, dated Simla, 18th March, 1914; and, if so, whether he can name the areas in which it is proposed to try such experiments?

No information as to any suggesions made by local governments has yet been received. The Government of India have instructed local governments that such action as they may be prepared to take in the matter should be clearly noticed in the Provincial Excise or General Administration Reports for the year 1914–15.

British Minister To Norway

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether Mr. Findlay, British Minister to Norway, has been absent from his poet of duty recently; if so, when and on what grounds; where he has been; and where he now is?

British Consul-General At Turin

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether the British Consul-General at Turin has held the rank of Consul-General for nineteen years; whether he is receiving only the pay of a Consul and has never received the pay of a Consul-General; and why he does not receive the pay of his rank?

The answer to the first part of the question is in the affirmative. Major Chapman was appointed Consul-General at Florence in June, 1896, before the Consular service was reorganised, the pay of the post at that time being £600 a year. In July, 1898, he was given a personal allowance of £100, which was in- creased to £200 in April, 1903, his total emoluments being thus £800 a year. In January, 1912, in consequence of a redistribution of posts in Italy, Florence was reduced to an unpaid post. Major Chapman was consequently nominated to the newly-created Consulate at Turin, the salary of which was £800, but was allowed to retain his personal rank of Consul-General, which carries no special rate of pay.

Agricultural Labour

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether, in regard to the suggested scheme for dealing with any shortage of agricultural labour, he will consider the advisability of arranging that the constitution of the county committees should include provisions whereby representatives of the county council and of the Agricultural Labourers' Union may be selected as members of the county committees, and thus provide for labour interests being duly represented?

The county committees referred to were constituted at the suggestion of the Board of Agriculture and Fisheries primarily with a view to ascertaining the demand for agricultural labour in each district. The committees consist of members of the principal local farmers' organisations, and it is open to any committee to co-opt representatives from either or both of the bodies referred to by my hon. Friend.

Fishery Scientific Assistants

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Board of Agriculture how many fishery scientific assistants in the service of the Board have been added to the Civil Service list within the past three years, and at what dates; and what is the increase in salary as well as the length of service in each case?

Three temporary appointments were made in 1913. The salary in each case was a fixed one of £150 per annum.

Swine Fever

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Board of Agriculture what was the number of cases of swine fever reported for the year ending 31st December last in England and Wales; how many pigs on inspection were found to be diseased; the number of animals destroyed; what was the cost of administering the Act; and the numbers and cost for the preceding ten years?

submitted the following statement, showing the cost incurred in the execution of the Diseases of Animals Acts in respect of swine fever in Great Britain during the financial years 1905–6 to 1914–15 inclusive:—

Year.Number of Reports received.Number of Outbreaks; confirmed.Compensation.Administration.Total Expenditure.Receipts from Salvage.Net Cost.
£££££
1905–67,8828977,30636,96744,27376143,512
1906–79,3431,52013,45539,87553,3301,83351,497
1907–812,0412,27217,58853,83471,4221,86569,557
1908–911,4902,03223,26047,94371,2034,05867,145
1909–109,4461,58825,57444,24469,8187,04362,775
1910–1111,7451,79338,73248,66987,40110,44476,957
1911–1216,4002,74866,84662,059128,90515,495113,410
1912–1314,5882,60569,40566,390135,79522,453113,342
1913–1415,2812,90182,93264,933147,86527,687120,178
1914–1519,4824,50976,00473,235149,23914,854134,385

Glasgow Ejectments

asked the Secretary for Scotland whether the number of ejectment processes in Glasgow during the first three months of the present year is much greater than for the first three months of last year; if so, whether he can conveniently state the figures; whether before the War such processes in Glasgow were generally dealt with by the magistrates; whether since the commencement of the War they have generally, or to a considerable extent, been transferred to the Sheriff Court; and, if so, what has led to that change?

The figures for the first three months of 1914 and 1915 respectively are as follows:—

1914.1915.
Sheriff Court1721,401
Burgh Court7,0115,040
Totals7,1836,441
These figures show that while the total number of ejectment processes has diminished, the number in the Sheriff Court has increased. The Sheriff and Burgh Courts have a concurrent jurisdiction in these cases and the choice of Court rests with the petitioner. I am informed that owing to the more minute inquiry necessitated in the many cases in which the protection of the Courts (Emergency Powers) Act, 1914, is invoked, it has been found necessary to curtail the number of cases dealt with at each sitting of the Burgh Court, and this has probably caused the increased resort to the Sheriff Court.