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Written Answers

Volume 108: debated on Wednesday 17 July 1918

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Written Answers

War

Minister Of Commerce

asked the Prime Minister whether it is intended by the Government to appoint a Minister of Commerce and a consultative committee?

Naval And Military Pensions And Grants

asked the Prime Minister whether he is aware that the hardship of the inadequate separation allowances presses chiefly on the childless wife who, for reasons of health or infirmity, is unable to go out to work and whose allowance has not been increased since October, 1914, whereas that of the children was increased in January, 1917; and whether he will instruct the Committee now sitting on this question to give sympathetic consideration to such cases?

I will bring the hon. Baronet's representations to the notice of the Cabinet Committee

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if, in view of his announcement last autumn that a measure was being considered to grant separation allowances to junior naval officers' wives on the ground that they could not live on their pay at the present-day cost of living, he will say why no mention of this was made a short time back when an increase of pay was granted to junior naval officers, whether married or single, and irrespective of their private incomes; and if the Treasury can see their way to grant separation allowances to all junior naval married officers, which would bring up their total income to £350 a year on their Income Tax return?

In the view of the Government the case of married junior naval officers is met by the grant of children allowances, and I am not prepared to authorise any further grant on the basis suggested.

Income Tax (Abatements)

asked the Secretary to the Treasury, respecting assessments of wages for the payment of Income Tax and the abatements allowed to workers on account of expenses incidental to their employment, such as car or tramway fares, overalls, jackets, and tools, whether such abatements are allowed only to a particular class of workers, namely, munition workers compulsorily transferred away from their homes to take up employment in accordance with the requirements of the Ministry of Munitions, or whether the abatements in question will apply to all workers who have to meet similar expenses out of their wages?

The allowance in respect of the cost of travelling to and from the place of employment is not restricted to munition workers, but is given in cases in which, owing to exceptional conditions mainly arising out of the War, weekly wage-earners chargeable by quarterly assessment are employed at considerable distances from their homes. As regards the other expenses mentioned, I would refer the hon. Member to a reply given by my right hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer in this House on the 12th ultimo to the hon. and gallant Member for West Ham. I am sending him a copy.

Food Supplies

Cattle Grading

asked the Secretary for Scotland whether he is aware of the dissatisfaction which exists as to the manner of grading cattle in Scotland; and whether he will consult the interests affected with a view to setting up grading committees more satisfactory to sellers of cattle and reducing the profits of the middleman?

I have been asked to reply. I am not aware that dissatisfaction exists with regard to the manner of grading cattle in Scotland. Two members of each grading committee are selected by the local farmers and butchers, respectively, while the third is a Government agent. The only intermediaries employed are live stock salesmen and wholesale meat traders, who act as Government agents, at a fixed rate of commission.

Woodwalton Fen (Labour)

asked the President of the Board of Agriculture whether the neglect to vote prisoner labour for Wood-walton Fen on the part of the Government Committee, as pressed for by the Hunts War Executive Committee and the Food Production Department, having resulted in considerable financial loss to the owners, the latter will be compensated to the extent of their outlay for the Government, four tractors having been employed to bring the land into cultivation?

The supply of prisoners necessarily depends on the number captured by our Army. It is obvious that no claim for compensation can be admitted on the ground that prisoners have not been supplied for any particular scheme. At the present moment the Board have urgent demands for 5,000 prisoners for agricultural and drainage work, but there are none available.

Gaelic League

asked the Chief Secretary for Ireland whether he is aware that the proclamation of the Gaelic League as dangerous has led to protests, misunderstandings, and the hampering of voluntary recruiting in Ireland; and whether he will revise the Proclamation so as to relieve the Gaelic League from its inclusion with other organisations declared to be dangerous?

asked the Chief Secretary for Ireland whether he is aware that a committee of the Gaelic League in county Tipperary have been arrested and retained in custody because, when challenged by the police, they persisted in giving their names in the Irish language; and whether he will order their release, giving instructions that the Irish tongue may be used in public?

This question appears to refer to the arrest, at Drombane, on the 8th instant, of five men for refusing to give their names and addresses to the local police except in Irish, which the police did not understand. They were convicted by the local magistrate of the offence under the Defence of the Realm Regulations of refusing to answer reasonable questions put by a police constable, and were sentenced to one month's imprisonment, in default of giving bail for good behaviour. There is no prohibition of the use of the Irish language in public.

Carrigaholt College, Clare

asked the Chief Secretary for Ireland why the Carrigaholt College, in county Clare, is refused the permission for staff and students to assemble; and whether, in view of this college having been a centre of the national culture distinctive of Ireland, permission will be granted for its reassembling?

I am informed that the college is open with full professorial and domestic staffs.

Zeebrugge And Ostend Operations (Decorations)

asked the First Lord of the Admiralty if he will state when it is proposed to publish the list of decorations and rewards in connection with the naval operations against Zeebrugge and Ostend?

The "Gazette," giving the list of decorations and awards referred to, is now in the hands of the printers, and it is hoped to publish it in a few days.

Territorial Force Decoration

asked the Under-Secretary of State for War whether changes have been made in the award of the Territorial decoration to secure that mobilised service during the present War is to count double time, and that the qualification is to be reduced from twenty years' commissioned service to fifteen years; and whether mobilised service during the South African War counted double towards the award?

As regards the first part of my hon. and gallant Friend's question, I regret I can add nothing at present to my reply on the 25th June last to my hon. and gallant Friend the Member for Southampton. The answer to the last part of the question is in the negative.

Wounded Soldiers (Ration Money)

asked the Financial Secretary to the War Office what is the amount of ration money which a soldier should receive when at home waiting for the fitting of an artificial limb?

These soldiers receive ration money at the rate of 1s. 4d. a day—i.e., the ordinary rate payable to soldiers living at home on furlough whose wives are receiving separation allowance.

Military Service

Volunteer Service

asked the Minister of National Service whether men who have joined the Volunteer Training Corps as a condition of exemption granted by tribunals are obliged to continue service with that corps in the event of the tribunals' exemption expiring because protection certificates have been issued without any obligation attached to them?

My right hon. Friend has asked me to answer this question. In cases where tribunals imposed Volunteer service as a definite condition of exemption, it has been decided that unless this condition is withdrawn by the tribunal the man must remain a member of the Volunteer Force even if the tribunal's exemption expired on account of the issue of a protection certificate or for any other reason. Under the recent Military Service Act, unless a tribunal specifically directs otherwise, a man granted a certificate of exemption is automatically liable to join the Volunteer Force. In such a case, if the original certificate of exemption lapses or is withdrawn, the man's liability to serve in the Volunteer Force ends.

Cases Under Inquiry

asked the President of the Local Government Board if he will give instructions to the Worsborough Local Tribunal that an applicant for exemption from the Military Service Acts is entitled to take a friend to state his case, seeing that this tribunal refused to permit Frank Pickering, whose name was down for hearing on 20th June, to be represented by a Friend?

asked the Under-Secretary of State for War if he will inquire into the case of two conscientious objectors named J. Polishuk and A. Cohen, attached to a Labour Battalion, who have been sentenced to fourteen days' detention for refusing to obey orders and whose request for a district court-martial has not been granted; and will he see that these men are allowed their rights under the Army Regulations in this respect?

If my hon. Friend will furnish me with the regimental numbers of these soldiers, I will have inquiry made.

asked the Minister of National Service if he will add to the cases into which he is inquiring, which have been passed by the Blackburn Medical Board, that of a man who on 14th June was passed Grade 2 though he was suffering from severe dropsy, his legs being swollen to twice the normal size, and though he produced a medical certificate that he had been under medical treatment for the last eighteen months, and who on being called to the Colours on 4th July was at once put in hospital owing to his serious condition?

asked the Minister of National Service if he will have immediate inquiry made into the action of the local representative of his Department at Huntley Street, Aberdeen, who has sent several calling-up notices to Alexander Scroggie, 9, Sinclair Street, Torry, Aberdeen, although this man holds a protection card as an iron moulder and has also an application for exemption on conscientious grounds before the tribunal; and, seeing that the Proclamation making a clean cut under twenty-five specially exempts those holding protection cards, will he see that the calling-up notice in this ease is withdrawn and the local representative is properly instructed in his duties?

asked the Minister of National Service why Norman Taylor, of 111, Bottomgate, Blackburn, aged eighteen, on the 13th June, 1918, and who was taken and passed Grade 2 on 20th June, and immediately sent into the Army and attached to the Manchester Regiment, was given no opportunity of appealing either against his medical grading or on any of the grounds of claim under the Military Service Act, has not been released yet from the Army; and will he see that there is no further delay, and that the man is returned to civil life immediately?

I regret that the result of the inquiries has not yet reached me. The case is being investigated along with others at Blackburn which have been brought to my notice by the hon. Member. I am endeavouring to expedite the inquiry, and will communicate with the hon. Member.

Checkweigher, Rotherham

asked the Minister of National Service if representations have been made to him about the case of Mr. Williams, of 17, Orchard Street, Goldthorpe, near Rotherham, a checkweigher in a local colliery; whether he is aware that, notwithstanding the agreement with the Miners' Federation, the colliery companies are allowed to appeal for the exemption of certain classes of workmen, whilst the workmen, who are the employers of the checkweighers, are not allowed to appeal through the colliery recruiting Court; whether he is aware that the refusal to exempt Mr. Williams has caused indignation amongst the workmen; and what action he has taken to continue the exemption of Mr. Williams, whose services as checkweigher and men's representative are considered by the men to be essential and indispensable?

I can assure the hon. Member that Mr. Williams' case has been very carefully investigated and considered on its merits. His application for exemption was dealt with by both the local and the Appeal Tribunal. Further, the executive of his union has refused to support his claim or to make representations on his behalf. I am not aware that the case has excited indignation amongst the workmen. All the information I have points to an opposite conclusion. I see no reason why Mr. Williams should receive special administrative protection in view df the fact that every checkweigher of military age in the two hundred pits in Yorkshire has accepted the decision of the ballot.

Medical Grading

asked the Minister of National Service whether, in order to give to all men called up, irrespective of their financial position, the same chance of being correctly graded, he is prepared to make arrangements, or to recommend that arrangements should be made by the appropriate Government Department, to enable a man who has been attended by his panel doctor in recent illness, and who cannot afford to pay such doctor for a certificate stating his recent medical history, to obtain such a certificate free of charge for production to the medical board to assist them in grading him, in the light of his recent medical history so certified to?

I fully appreciate the importance of the point raised in my hon. Friend's question. At present the instructions are that in cases of doubt as to the man's medical history, chairmen of medical boards are to consult the recruit's private medical atendant. The difficulty connected with this is that so many medical men are serving with the forces that in a very large number of cases the man's ordinary medical attendant, quite irrespective of the man's financial position, cannot be referred to. It was largely to meet this difficulty, which was fully recognised last autumn, that the systems of re-examination by National Service medical boards, of specialist examination in connection with these boards, and of appeal medical assessors were introduced.

Tribunal Decisions (Appeals)

asked the Minister of National Service how many appeals have been made by the National Service representatives against local tribunals' decisions to grant exemption from military service, and how many have been granted; and if he can also give similar particulars for the Yorkshire regional area separately?

The figures for the period from 23rd February, 1918—prior to which date the figures for Yorkshire were included in those for the East Midland region—to 22nd June, 1918, show that in Great Britain the number of appeals by National Service representatives against local tribunal decisions was 9,614, resulting in 7,073 exemptions being withdrawn or varied. In the Yorkshire region the corresponding figures were 676 and 501, respectively.

asked the Minister of National Service how many appeals have been made by applicants against the decisions of local tribunals to refuse exemption from military service, and how many have been granted; and if, in addition, he can give similar particulars for the Yorkshire regional area separately?

The figures for the period from 23rd February, 1918—prior to which date the figures for Yorkshire were included in those for the East Midland region—to 22nd June, 1918, show that in Great Britain the number of appeals made by applicants against the decisions of local tribunals was 23,032, resulting in 12,443 exemptions being granted or varied. In the Yorkshire region the corresponding figures were 2,029 and 853, respectively.

Protection Certificates

asked the Minister of National Service if a man who is employed in chemical works and holds a protection certificate is certified by the doctor that the work is injurious to his Health, and if such a man gets permission from the Labour Exchange to take up some other work of national importance, will this man be entitled to receive a new protection card?

Instructions at present in force provide that if a man who is protected in respect of his employment on munitions work leaves his employment he has fourteen days in which to engage in work of similar importance. If he does not do so within that time he forfeits his protection, unless he satisfied the Enlistment Complaints Sub-Committee that his failure to re-enter such work was due to a reasonable cause.

Agricultural Committees (Scotland)

asked the Secretary for Scotland whether he is aware of the dissatisfaction which exists regarding the manner in which county agricultural committees discharge their duties; whether he is aware that recommendations to call up men engaged in agriculture are often left entirely to the secretary and the military representative, who may be ignorant of and frequently do not inquire into the circumstances of the individual cases; and whether, in the national interests, he will take immediate steps to have, where necessary, more independent committees appointed?

No, Sir. I am not aware that such dissatisfaction exists. On the contrary, I know that the agricultural executive committees have rendered most valuable service, and I am not prepared to accept my hon. Friend's suggestion that there is need for fresh appointments on the ground that the committees have failed in their duty. With regard to the procedure in connection with the calling-up of men engaged in agriculture, I would refer my hon. Friend to my reply to the hon. and learned Member for the College Division on the 27th of June.

Prisoners Of War

asked the Financial Secretary to the War Office if German prisoners in England receive any payment in money; if so, what is the amount; and whether this sum is paid by the British Government?

Officers of rank of captain and over are allowed 4s. 6d. per day, below captain 4s. per day. It is paid by the British Government; but, under the terms of The Hague Convention, a refund will be made by the German Government at the end of the War. The officers pay for their food and clothing from this sum. Other ranks receive no pay from us except as follows: Medical and sanitary personnel receive the pay of the corresponding rank in our Army; prisoners employed on work other than camp fatigues receive working pay in accordance with the Pay Warrant.

asked the President of the Board of Agriculture whether he is aware that the Dutch Government and the Netherlands Oversea Trust offer no objection to British prisoners of war in the Netherlands having dogs sent them from this country; why, if the dogs are of no value to Great Britain, the British Government is preventing them from being sent; and whether the restriction applies to the toy dogs which British prisoners have ordered but been unable to ship owing to Government interference?

It is not the policy of His Majesty's Government to place obstacles in the way of the export of pet dogs to prisoners of war in Holland. If my hon. and gallant Friend can give me any instances of difficulties that have occurred, I shall be pleased to inquire into the matter.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he is now in a position to make any statement with regard to the British prisoners in the hands of the Turks; and if this question was discussed by him at The Hague?

It is not possible to add anything to the reply on this subject which was returned to a question by my Noble Friend the Member for South Nottingham on the 8th instant, nor am I able to say before the British delegates return from The Hague how far the question was discussed by them.

Munitions

National Factories, Etc (Auditor-General's Report)

asked the Under-Secretary or State to the Air Ministry whether he is aware that the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor-General on the annual accounts of the national factories and the Royal Aircraft Factory states that among the cases recorded are those in which £38,000,000 was given for material, and £16,000,000 was not covered by invoices, where an estimate of £630,000 was dealt with by a later one for £1,200,000, where payments of £1,400,000 were recorded, while £4,700,000 had actually been paid, where advances had been posted twice in the ledger, while amounts have been paid twice though posted only once; whether any inquiry has been made into those statements and the result thereof; and whether the officials responsible for the £500,000 wasted on the proposed flying school at Loch Doon have been reprimanded or dismissed?

I have been asked to reply to this question. The Comptroller and Auditor-General's Reports on the accounts of the Ministry of Munitions have been inquired into by the Public Accounts Committee of the House. That Committee has taken evidence from responsible officers regarding the subjects referred to, and I assume this Report will be presented to the House in due course. I might, however, refer the hon. Member to the statement made by the Chairman of the Public Accounts Committee, the hon. and gallant Member for West Dorset, in the course of the Debate on the Supplementary Vote of Credit on 19th June, 1918. As regards the Loch Doon Flying School, I must refer the hon. Member to the reply given by the Chancellor of the Exchequer to the hon. Member for Brentford on 1st July.

Aliens

asked the Home Secretary whether he will ask for a Report from the Chief Constable of Westgate-on-Sea on the pro-German actions and conversation of E. A. Meyer, which led the chief constable there to ask the military to transfer Meyer out of that district and into Throgmorton Street and the London Stock Exchange?

I have nothing to add to my previous answers to the hon. Member on this subject.

asked the Home Secretary whether any of the persons who have given guarantees in order to prevent the internment of enemy aliens or to obtain their release from internment are themselves of enemy birth or origin; whether any limit is placed upon the number of alien enemies who can be so guaranteed by any one person; if any list exists of the names and addresses of such guarantors; if so, whether any indication is given therein as to the original names and original nationality of the guarantors; and whether such list can be inspected and under what conditions?

No list has been made of these referees, and to extract from the papers the particulars asked for in the question would take a great deal of time and labour which cannot be spared at the present time, especially as the exemptions are to be at once reviewed.

asked the Home Secretary whether he has taken into his consideration recent expressions of opinion that the internment of aliens of enemy nationality forthwith is advisable and necessary in the interests of the public safety; does he propose to carry out such internment without or with exceptions; and, if the latter, would there be any objection to lay before Parliament a list of all such exceptions and the reasons for making them?

I stated in this House on the 11th instant the decision of the Government with regard to internment, and effect will at once be given to their decision. Steps will be taken so that all exemptions from internment, and the reasons for exemption, may be open to public inspection.

Hyde Park Meeting (Prohibition)

asked the Home Secretary whether demonstrations were held with his consent in Trafalgar Square on Saturday on the question of aliens, and on Sunday by Socialists, also in Hyde Park on Sunday by the British Workers' League; whether a meeting in Hyde Park on Sunday, for which a permit had been granted to the Women's International League on 25th May, since when it had been widely advertised, was proclaimed on Friday last at 6.30, leaving only one clear day to cancel long-prepared arrangements; and, if so, why permission was given to three parties and the right of public meeting denied to the fourth within a few hours?

I believe that meetings were held as stated, but no consent on my part was given or required. On the 11th July I was informed that the "peace demonstration," proposed for the 14th July, would be likely to give rise to grave disorder, and cause undue demands to be made on the police, and I thereupon prohibited the meeting, and caused notice of the prohibition to be given. No ground was shown for prohibiting the other meetings.

Captain Bowen-Coulthurst

asked the Home Secretary whether Captain Bowen-Coulthurst is still confined at Broadmoor; and whether his health is satisfactory?

Captain Bowen-Coulthurst has been allowed to leave Broadmoor Asylum and reside elsewhere on conditions which secure proper medical supervision and control.

Trading With Enemy (Licences)

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether any licences to transact business with alien enemies have been granted during the War; if so, how many such licences were granted in 1914, 1915, 1916, 1917, and 1918, respectively; and whether any record is available showing the reasons for the granting of such licences?

Several Government Departments issue licences to do acts prohibited by the law relating to trading with the enemy except under licence. I am, therefore, in communication with these Departments, and will let my right hon. Friend know the result.

Fuel And Lighting Order

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether, in the coal rationing scheme, regard was had to the existence of village coal clubs; and, if so, what steps these clubs should take in order to ensure that the requisite supplies of coal are forthcoming?

In the Household Fuel and Lighting Order, 1918, due regard has been had to the existence of village coal clubs, etc. Where a coal club does not control its own supplies of coal but transmits the orders received to registered coal merchants or licensed coal dealers it will take out a licence as a dealer declaring itself the agent of such merchant or dealer. This licence will be obtainable through the local fuel overseer of the respective districts in which the coal clubs are situated. A coal club receiving coal by truck direct from a colliery must register as a coal merchant and may be required to establish a reserve stock of coal for its members. Subject to the above Regulations, coal clubs will continue to receive their coal through the ordinary channels as heretofore.

Consular Service

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he is aware of the allegation that almost 90 per cent. of the Consuls were either Germans or of Teutonic extraction; whether those alien agents have been eliminated from the service; and whether precautions have been adopted to ensure that commercial men of experience in home trade and commercial produce shall be appointed?

In regard to the first part of this question, I would refer the hon. Member to my reply to question No. 11 of to-day and to my reply to my hon. Friend the Member for East; Kent on the 24th of June. As regards the second part of the question, a Selection Committee has been appointed, containing representatives of commerce and industry, to make recommendations for appointment in the case of Commercial Attaches and Consuls.

War Savings Certificates (Transfers)

asked the Postmaster-General under what circumstances he transfers War Savings Certificates; if any transfers, except between members of the same family, are sanctioned; if any transfers have, except between members of the same family, been sanctioned; and if he has refused to transfer any certificates, preferring to cash them rather than to transfer them?

Transfers, except between members of the same family, are only authorised in exceptional cases—e.g., where the limit of numbers has been inadvertently exceeded. War Savings Certificates are issued under specially advantageous conditions as regards interest and exemption from Income Tax, and they are not intended to be marketable securities

Regent's Park

asked the First Commissioner of Works what was the total acreage of those portions of Regent's Park to which the public had access before the War; what is the total acreage of the park occupied now by the Post Office, other Government Departments and works, and allotments, and to which the public have not now access; and what is the acreage of the park from which the public are now excluded by the Office of Works owing to inadequate fencing of the canal tow-path by the Regent's Canal Company?

The area of Regent's Park and Primrose Hill open to the public before the War was 330 acres.

Acres.
The Military Post Office, Army Ordnance Corps, Army Service Corps, Parcels Censor Office, and Aircraft Stores Depot now occupy43
Under Allotments13
Under Cultivation1
Banks of Canal on South Side12
69
Area now open to the Public261
Total330