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Volume 123: debated on Monday 22 December 1919

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Written Answers

Assyria (Christian Population)

asked the Prime Minister whether the British Government have received any representations with reference to the position of the Assyrian Christians; and whether they will give favourable consideration to the requests of a small Christian people that has suffered greatly in the cause of the Allies?

The reply to the first part of the question is in the affirmative. For the rest I can only refer my hon. and gallant Friend to my statement in this House last Thursday, and to the fuller statement made by the Foreign Secretary in the House of Lords on the preceding day.

Rex V Beard (Counsel)

asked the Prime Minister whether, in view of the discrepancy between the numbers and seniority of the counsel engaged on the two sides in the House of Lords in the criminal appeal, the Director of Public Prosecutions v. Beard, wherein the life of the respondent is involved, he will consider introducing legislation assimilating English law to Roman law, which provided that it should be the duty of the Court to see that neither side should be enabled by money alone to have the benefit of counsel more in number or of greater seniority than the other?

My right hon. Friend has asked me to reply to this question. it is not correct to say that the life of the respondent is or was involved in the appeal which is referred to, nor is there any necessity for legislation of the kind suggested.

Old Age Pensions

asked the Prime Minister whether his attention has been called to the fact that instructions have been issued to all post offices that old age pensions due on Boxing Day will not be paid until Monday, 29th December,;— whether, in view of the hardship this delay will cause to old age pensioners, he will give directions cancelling this notice and providing for the payment of such pension on 24th December?

asked the Postmaster-General whether old age pensioners whose pensions are due to be paid on Boxing Day are not to be paid until Monday, 29th December; and whether he can see his way to issue instructions to have them paid on Tuesday, 23rd December, and thereby give these old people a chance of having some money with which to enjoy Christmas?

Arrangements have now been made for old age pensions due on Friday, the 26th instant, to be paid today, to-morrow, and on. Wednesday, the 24th instant.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether, in view of the fact that the Commission appointed to inquire into old age pensions are unanimous in recommending that any relief granted by Poor Law guardians to old age pensioners shall not be deemed a disqualification for the receipt of such pensions, he will take steps to put this portion of the Report of the Commission into immediate operation, as there is likely to be much suffering this coming winter amongst a great number of old age pensioners owing to high prices?

I would refer my hon. Friend to the provisions of Clause 3 of the Old Age Pensions Bill, which was introduced on Friday last.

asked the Minister of Health whether, in view of the high cost of living, he will adopt the unanimous recommendation of the recent Old Age Pensions Committee to allow persons in. receipt of Poor Law relief to also receive the old age pension?

The recommendation only applies to outdoor relief. It has been embodied in the Old Age Pensions Bill, which has now passed the House of Commons.

asked the Minister of Pensions whether a decision has yet been reached on the question as to whether relief granted by guardians shall not be deemed a disqualification for old ago pensions; and, if not so reached, whether he is prepared to say when an announcement may be expected?

I would refer my hon. Friend to the provisions of Clause 3 of the Old Age Pensions Bill which was introduced on Friday last.

asked the Financial Secretary to the Treasury whether he will state on what grounds the old age pension has been withdrawn from Mrs. Glover, of 38, College Road, Handsworth, Birmingham, a widow of eighty-one, whose sole means of support, in addition to her pension, is a voluntary allowance made by her son of 6s. to 7s. a week?

No action has been taken for reduction or revocation of Mrs. Glover's old age pension. There was some slight delay over the issue of a fresh pension book for the current half-year owing to the fact that the means were under reinvestigation, but the new book has now been delivered.

National Shipyards

asked the Prime Minister what Government Department is in charge of the national shipbuilding yards at Chepstow, Beachley, and Portbury; what is the total expenditure on these yards; whether a large quantity of material has-been purchased and taken away from Beachley on account of Lord Pirrie; and what is the policy of the Government towards these shipyards?

I have been asked to reply. The Ministry of Shipping is in, charge of the national shipyards at Chepstow, Beachley, and Portbury. The expenditure on the construction of the yards, including the purchase of the property of the Standard Shipbuilding Company, housing, plant, machinery, stores, etc., is approximately £6,000.000. Certain quantities of fabricated parts which were originally purchased for the construction of fabricated ships at the national shipyards, and which became surplus on the reduction of the War programme of construction, have been sold, and Messrs. Harland and Wolff, Belfast, have purchased some of this material. As regards the last part of the question, I would refer my hon. Friend to my previous statements, on this subject.

Victory Loan

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will state the total amount of the Victory Loan during the period 11th June to 12th July, 1919?

I would refer the hon. and gallant Member to my reply to the Noble Lord the Member for Horsham and Worthing on the 9th instant.

Income Tax

Ex-Service Men

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether, in view of the difficulty experienced by discharged and demobilised soldiers in straightening them- selves financially, he will consider the advisability of exempting them from payment of Income Tax for one year after their demobilisation?

I regret that I am unable to adopt the suggestion contained in my hon. Friend's question.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will consider the urgent advisability of issuing an order to the Income Tax Commissioners to the effect that the assessment for Income Tax of professional men who have served throughout the War shall be based upon the three years' average, so that this year's income shall be averaged with the last two years of Army and Navy pay, and in this way offer some tangible reward for services rendered and at the same time give such gentlemen a reasonable chance of making a fresh start in life?

I am unable to adopt the hoe. Member's suggestion. It would not be permissible, under the provisions of the Income Tax Acts to compute the assessable profits of a profession by reference to the amount of income derived in previous years from Army or Navy pay.

Repayment (Discount)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether it is desirable to bring to the notice of Income Tax payers, either on the demand note or otherwise, that sums due on the 1st July, 1920, are subject to a discount of 2½ per cent. if paid on the 1st January, 1920, and to request the taxpayer, if possible, to pay on the earlier date?

I would refer my hon. and learned Friend to Section 159 of the Income Tax Act, 1918, which provides for the allowance of discount on repayments of Income Tax charged under Schedule D "at the rate of £2 10s. per cent. per annum" on the amount prepaid "for the period commencing on the day when the payment was made and ending on the day limited for payment." The allowance is confined to payments under Schedule D, and is required to be claimed at the time of payment. The course suggested by my hon. and learned Friend could not at this late date be adopted for the current year. As regards the future, the whole question of the allowance of discount on prepayment of Income Tax has been brought to the notice of the Royal Commission, and will be considered in the light of any recommendations which they may make.

Foreign Premium Bonds

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he is aware that the Press is publishing the terms upon which French premium bonds may be acquired; and whether, in view of the emphatic condemnation of premium bonds given in this House, the Government propose taking any action to discourage or prevent dealings in the premium bands issued by other countries?

The Government were advised that an issue of British Premium Bonds with prizes awarded by lot would be illegal without fresh legislation to authorise it. Dealings in this country in similar bonds issued elsewhere would also be illegal. I understand that the scheme involves the giving of considerable prizes by lot. If this be 60', I am advised that Section 41 of the Lotteries Act, 1823 (4 Geo: IV., c. 60), would apply, which makes it an offence to sell any chance or publish any proposal or scheme for the sale of any chance in a lottery.

War Office (Ex-Soldier Clerks)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether the Treasury have yet come to a decision in the matter of the creation of an establishment of ex-soldier clerks in the War Office?

The establishment of these clerks cannot be settled without regard to the method of recruitment to be adopted for such situations; but I am in communication with the War Office on the subject, and I hope that a decision may be arrived at shortly.

asked the Secretary of State for War whether his attention has been drawn to a statement issued by the Association of ex-Soldier (War Office) Clerks regarding their claim to be brought on to a pensionable establishment; and what action he proposes to take in the matter?

The answer to the first part of the question is in the affirma- tive. As stated in my reply to the hon. Member for North Lambeth on the 17th instant, the whole question of a pensionable establishment for these clerks is under consideration.

Bank Holidays, Scotland

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer why English bank holidays are to extend from 25th to 27th December, inclusive, while Scotch Bank holidays are only to be Christmas Day; and, if it be too late to assimilate the periods, will he cause the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd January, 1920, to be bank holidays in Scootland?

December 26th is a recognised Bank holiday in England but not in Scotland. My information is that neither of my hon. Friend's suggestions would suit the convenience of the Scottish trading and banking communities.

Civil Service (Entrance Examinations)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether the Government has yet decided to adopt the decision of the Treasury Committee on entrance to the Civil Service; and if he can state definitely when entrance examinations for the Civil Service will begin?

I am not yet in a position to add to the reply given to the hon. Member for Southwark (N.) on the 21st November.

Tax Inspectorate

asked the Financial Seertary to the Treasury whether he is aware that all clerks to inspectors of taxes were given an opportunity of supplying particulars of their education and military service for the purpose of having their claims to appointments as assistant inspectors of taxes considered; and whether, in view of the fact that most of these clerks have now been informed by the secretary to the Selection Committee that they are not able to recommend them for appointments as assistant inspectors of taxes, he will request the Selection Committee to inform each of such clerks of the particular reasons for his disqualification?

I am unable to adopt the suggestion put forward by my hon. Friend. The standard for the tax inspectorate is necessarily high, and only clerks of exceptional merit can hope to be selected. The fact of non-selection implies no reflection whatever upon the efficiency of a clerk in the grade to which he belongs.

asked the Financial Secretary to the Treasury whether, in view of the fact that the departmental examination to which clerks to inspectors of taxes have to submit themselves before they are allowed to proceed beyond the salary of £130 has now become a condition for promotion to the grade of staff clerkship, all the clerks who had already passed that examination will be immediately promoted to that grade, in view of the fact that many have been promoted who were not asked to submit themselves to such examination and who were junior to those who had passed that examination and who were passed over for promotion?

The examination referred to is a condition, but not the only condition, of promotion. Appointments to staff clerkships must continue to be made as vacancies occur by selection according to merit from among those who are qualified under the regulations for the time being in force.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether junior established clerks to His Majesty's inspectors of taxes receive salaries that range from £50 to £70 per annum, plus 17s. per week and 30 per cent. war bonus; whether it is intended to revise the scale of these salaries in the near future; and whether in any case the scale of salaries of such established clerks will be revised before that of temporary clerks engaged in similar labours?

Established clerks to inspectors of taxes are on a scale of £50: 5: 85: 7.10s.: 130: 10: 200. They enjoy the war bonus applicable to Civil servants generally at corresponding rates of pay under the awards of the Civil Service Arbitration Board, namely, 17s. per week plus 30 per cent, between the ages of eighteen and twenty-one, above twenty-one, 24s. plus 30 per cent. up to a salary of £156 10s., and thereafter £60 per annum plus 30 per cent. On the question of the revision of the scale of pay I must refer my hon. and gallant Friend to my answer to the hon. Member for Devonport on the 20th March last. Since that date a Subcommittee of the National Council for the Administrative and Legal Departments has been set up to review the clerical classes in the Civil Service and, 'inter alia, to make recommendations as to their scales of salary. The Committee is due to make a Report by the 31st proximo. Temporary clerks in the offices of inspectors are paid at rates prescribed for work of similar character in Departments generally.

Mint (Bullion Purchases)

asked the Financial Secretary to the Treasury whether any sums have been issued during the present financial year for the purchase by the Mint of bullion for purposes of coinage under Section 9 of -the Coinage Act, 1870; if so, what have been the amounts and average prices of any gold or silver so purchased; Whether any gold has been purchased by or on behalf of any other Government Department for the purposes of either coinage or reserve during this financial year; and, if so, what was the amount and what was the average price?

The amount issued to the Mint for bullion purchases in the current financial year is £1,100,000, practically all of which has been expended in purchases of silver bullion at an average price of 51 15/16d. per standard ounce. The Mint does not purchase gold. The answer to the third part. of the question is in the negative so far as the United Kingdom is concerned, and the last part consequently does not arise.

Land Valuation

asked the Financial Secretary to the Treasury if he will cause copies of all the instructions that have been issued to valuers by the Treasury and by the Land Valuation Department as to the manner of arriving at the several values of land, and particularly the full site values, as defined by Section 25 of the Finance (1909–10) Act, 1910, to be laid upon the Table of the House; and if in the meantime he will cause copies of them to be supplied to the hon. Member for the Leigh Division of Lancashire?

A complete set of the instructions issued to valuers by the Commissioners of Inland Revenue was supplied to the Select Committee on Land Values in October last. I do not see my way at present to take any further step in the direction suggested in the question.

Food Supplies

Rabbits

asked the Minister of Food whether he has received from the Glasgow Wholesale and Retail Fish Trade Association a complaint as to the practice of some retailers of rabbits purchasing them at the producing grounds instead of in the market and paying the producer the full maximum price, 8d. per 1b., though he is thus relieved of the cost of packing in hampers and sending them to the market.; and, if so, what was the substance of the reply sent to the complaint.?

The answer to the first part of the question is in the negative. A resolution has, however, been received from this Association recommending the removal of control from rabbits on the ground that purchases have in some cases been made above the maximum price. The association have been informed that the general question of rabbit prices is at present being considered by the Trade Advisory Committee, which will report at an early date, and action is being deferred pending the receipt of this report.

Palm Kernels

asked the Minister of Food whether, in view of the fact that there is no prohibition of the export from this country of margarine or of Brazilian babassu kernels or shea nuts, which are ingredients of margarine, he will consider the advisability of removing the prohibition of the export of palm kernels imported from British possessions and used for the same purpose?

Only small quantities of babassu kernels and shea nuts have been imported into this country, and these commodities are not as yet staple raw material for the manufacture of margarine. Palm kernels may be exported direct from West Africa to any part of the world, and their re-export from the United Kingdom would, if it were permitted, not only place a greater burden on the already congested ports, but would take up British shipping required for other purposes.

American Packers

asked the Minister of Food whether his Department possesses information that there are thirty to forty American packers shipping bacon and other foodstuffs to this country who are grouped together by various ties of ownership and interest, and pursue a common policy at the bidding of the strongest group, which is popularly known as the Big Five; what steps, if any, the Ministry are taking, in concert with the United States Government, to moderate the high prices fixed by this American combination; and what other measures the Ministry have in view, in the interests of British consumers and producers?

My attention has been drawn to the existence of a close alliance between the American packers shipping bacon and other foodstuffs to this country. I have already made arrangements to protect the consumer in this country so far as concerns bacon, hams and lard, by concentrating all buying in the hands of a mission in New York, who are fully informed as to the stocks and requirements of the United Kingdom. A satisfactory form of contract eliminating all chances of speculation has been arranged with the packers, and this, together with complete control of prices and distribution in the United Kingdom, assures to the consumer a regular supply of bacon of good quality at a cost based on the actual price of the hogs from which the bacon is made. I may add that as curing takes a considerable time and transport is slow, the full advantages of these arrangements will probably not be realised until the new year.

Milk

asked the Minister of Food if he has received any communication from the burghs of Dumbarton and Clydebank protesting against the present price of milk; whether he is aware that there is dissatisfaction and unrest in both towns; and if he will state what steps he is going to take to reduce the price of milk to the consumers?

I have received representations from the burghs in question. As already announced, however, in reply to a question from the hon. and gallant Member for the Tradeston Division of Glasgow on 16th December, it is impossible in all the circumstances to modify the maximum prices which have been fixed.

asked the Minister of Food if he is aware that certain middlemen in the Newcastle-on-Tyne district are receiving 2d. per gallon from milk distributors in the district against their will; and, if so, whether he will take steps to prevent such action, seeing that people cannot buy owing to the high price, and children have to go without it?

I have no information to the effect stated. If the hon. Member will furnish me with further particulars I will have the matter investigated.

Sugar

asked the Minister of Food whether, in view of the serious shortage of sugar (as shown in weekly bulletin 97, and the necessity for economy as emphasised in leaflet R.R. 11), he will consider the advisability of reducing the amount of sugar allowed to manufacturers for the manufacture of confectionery; whether he is aware that the present position, whereby the manufacturers' vouchers have been increased to 400 per cent. of their face value, is causing great dissatisfaction and resentment in the country; and will he consider the desirability of reducing the amount granted for manufacturing purposes and utilise the sugar thus saved for the benefit of young children and aged infirm people who cannot eat meat?

As regards the first part of the question I would refer the hon. and gallant Member to the reply given to the hon. Member for South Hammersmith on 18th December. The suggestion in the second part is apparently made under a misapprehension. The allowances of sugar to manufacturers have not been increased except in so far as, after a temparary reduction of 25 per cent. due to difficulties caused by the railway strike, they were restored to their previous value. I may say, however, that it has been decided to reduce the issues to manufacturers by 25 per cent.; and the advisability of a further reduction is now being considered.

asked the Minister of Food if he is aware that during the railway strike a parcel of sugar consigned to Mr. J. W. Wainman, of Albert Street, Holt, was commandeered by the district food commissioner, and a voucher given in its stead at a later date; that the price of sugar had advanced in the meantime and that Mr. Wainman suffered a loss of £10 per ton; that the director of Sugar Distribution has referred him to the Defence of the Realm Losses Commission, a course which will mean delay, trouble, and expense; and if he will consider making recompense to this trader for his loss?

The answer to the first part of the question is in the affirmative. The price of sugar was subesquently advanced, but the Ministry of Food would not be justified in meeting, out of public funds, a claim for compensation in excess of the value of the goods which were diverted.

Fish

asked the Minister of Food if he is aware that there is general dissatisfaction among the fishermen on the Moray Firth in regard to the maximum prices fixed for fish under the Order dated 25th November; whether he is aware that the prices fixed are so low as to be unprofitable in present conditions; and if he will reconsider the matter with a view to raising the prices?

I have received representations from the fishermen on this matter. I think however, that the maximum prices now in force afford an adequate remuneration to fishermen generally, and while I am always prepared to consider any specific modifications that may be suggested, I do not propose substantially to modify the Order.

Butter And Cream

asked the Minister of Food whether he is aware that at the present controlled price of butter farmers are making a loss and that the scarcity of butter in the country is due to the controlled price being below the cost of production; and whether he will look into this matter without delay and adjust the price?

asked the Minister of Food whether he is aware that the present veto on the sale of cream and the restrictions upon the sale of butter in regard to both prices and quantity not only preclude the diversion of surplus milk into these products, the demand for which greatly exceeds the present supply, but also discourage the rearing of calves and thereby seriously prejudice the future of stock raising in this country; and whether, in these circumstances, he Will give instructions for all restrictions upon the sale of cream and butter to be removed immediately or by the 1st January, 1.920, at latest?

I am aware that the maximum retail price of butter is not on a parity with the price of milk, but the present scarcity of butter is mainly due to the serious reduction in the quantity of imported butter available. As I have already stated, I am considering the question of freeing all home agricultural products, except wheat, at some point or points during the first six months of next year, and the remission of the present restrictions on the sale of cream will be dealt with in connection with the general question.

Liquor Control Order (Eastern Area)

asked the Prime Minister whether he is aware that the Liquor Control Order for the Eastern area, dated 24th August, 1916, and which is still in force, stipulates that wine, spirits, and beer shall be paid for before delivery, except to a licensed trader or club; and will he state why officers' and sergeants' messes are not also exempted in view of their monthly settlement, which obtained previously and which is provided for in King's Regulations?

I understand that the arrangement in question was made in agreement with the War Office, but I shall have inquiry made to see if any practical inconvenience results from it.

Fertilisers

asked the Minister of Food whether it is the intention of the Government to decontrol fertilisers, such as basic slag, sulphate of ammonia, and superphosphates, in the near future; and, if not, whether he will state the reason for its continuity?

The Fertiliser Prices Order, 1918, under which control was exercised over sales and purchases of the fertilisers to which my hon. and gallant Friend refers, ceased to operate on 31st May, 1919. Since that date maximum delivered prices of basic slag and sulphate of ammonia for home deliveries have been fixed by agreement between manufacturers and the Board of Agriculture. No maximum prices have been arranged for superphosphate on account of the varying cost of importing phosphate rock. Apart from these arrangements, the production, distribution, and prices for home consumption of these fertilisers are now free from control. Control of export of fertilisers is still maintained, in order to secure sufficient supplies to meet home requirements. Export licences for any surplus are, however, freely granted. This control will be discontinued as soon as practicable, consistent with meeting the needs of British agriculture.

Grass Land

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Board of Agriculture whether he is aware that the monthly subsidy of £560,000 which is taken from agriculture has caused large orders to be given for grass seeds to lay down thousands of acres of arable land in the Eastern Counties; and what steps the Government intends to take in the endeavour to keep land in cultivation?

The Board are aware that a certain amount of recently-ploughed grass land. is being renown with grass, but hope that the declared policy of the Government with regard to agriture will allay the apprehensions of farmers and encourage them to maintain and extend the area of arable land.

Ireland

Prison Service (Unmarried Officers)

asked the Chief Secretary for Ireland whether he is aware that unmarried officers in the Irish prison service have been deprived of 1s. 6d. per week from 1st April, 1916, to 1st April, 1919; whether he is aware that these unmarried officers act as sleeping-in guards; that English prison officers performing the same duty receive 2s. 6d. per night, plus fuel and light; and whether he will refund to these Irish officers the loss they have sustained?

It is true that unmarried officers in Irish prisons received 1s. 6d. per week less than married officers in the period mentioned, but I can hold out no hope of obtaining Treasury sanction to make up the difference to the single men. Single officers in Irish prisons are provided with quarters in the prison, and are required to sleep in them. I have no, information as to the case of the English. prison officers.

Motor Permits Order

asked the Chief Secretary for Ireland whether the Motor Permits Order is still in existence in Ireland; whether it is being enforced and. whether, in consequence, motor traffic is completely suspended in Ireland; and whether, in view of the disastrous results to trade generally, especially at Christmas tide, he will at once withdraw the Order?

The Order is still in existence and is being enforced. With regard to the remainder of the question, I would refer my hon. and gallant Friend to my reply given to his previous question on. this subject.

Assurance Companies

asked the President of the Board of Trade, with regard to the Irish Provident Association and the Irish National Standard Assurance, both of which are now in liquidation, whether he can state the total number of policyholders in Ireland, the total amount subscribed by them as premiums, the date of liquidation in each case, the amount returned to policy-holders as a result of liquidation, the date on which such sums were refunded, when the balance will be paid, and what steps the Board of Trade is taking to prevent, such companies trading with insufficient capital?

The Irish Provident Assurance Company, Limited, is being wound up under an order made by the Irish Courts on the 24th April, 1911, and the liquidation is not under the control of the Board of Trade, who have no jurisdiction in the matter. There is no company called the Irish National Standard Assurance., but a company called the National Standard Life Assurance Corporation, Limited, was registered in England, and had an office in Ireland. On the 6th June, 1916, an order was made by the High Court in England for the winding up of that company, and Mr. James Fabian, chartered accountant, is the liquidator. I have communicated with the liquidator, who slates that about 4,000 proofs have been lodged, but that he is unable to give the number of policy-holders in Ireland or the amount subscribed by them as premiums. He has applied to the Court for directions as to which classes of creditors are entitled to rank against the life fund, and it is riot possible to distribute the assets until a decision of the Court has been obtained. The matter referred to in the concluding paragraph of the question is receiving the consideration of the Committee appointed to inquire into industrial life assurance.

Naval Ordnance Depot, Wool Wich (Clerical Staff)

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Admiralty why the, cash and clerical staff at the Naval Ordnance Depot, Woolwich, are paid a lower rate of wages than the labourers who sweep the offices out?

The overriding minimum for the clerical staff is 60s, a week, which was awarded by the Conciliation and Arbitration Hoard, with effect as from the 1st January last, and is applicable to all establishments in the London area. A settlement by agreement was arrived at in June last with the Civil Service Union, which represents these men, and it was arranged, as from the 1st April last, to pay all temporary writers on the same basis as permanent writers, who are on a scale of pay fixed by the Regulations, subject to the proviso that no man should receive less than 60s. a week. The effect of this agreement enabled temporary writers to obtain the benefit. of the Civil Service war bonuses, and under the latest award a maximum of 78s. 7d. a week would be reached by annual increments of 2s. a week, after eight years' service, as against the fixed total of 68s. 1d for the unskilled workmen.

Royal Navy

Widows' Pensions

asked the First Lord of the Admiralty whether the widow of a naval officer killed in the War is entitled to receive any pension if she remarries; and, if so, on what basis?

No, Sir. The pension ceases on remarriage, but is restored in the event of the death of the second husband. Widows' pensions in the case of wives of officers killed during the War or dying of disease are now, however, a matter for the Ministry of Pensions, and, not the Admiralty.

Officers And Trade Unions

asked the First Lord of the Admiralty whether permission has been refused to officers of the Navy to join a trade union, namely, the National Union of Scientific Workers; whether any persons subject to the Naval Discipline Acts are permitted to join any trade unions; and, if the answers to the first two parts of the question are in the affirmative, why this differentiation is made between the National Union of Scientific Workers and other trade unions?

. The reply to the first part of the question is in the affirmative. The reply to the second part is that Admiralty permission has not been given to any person under the Naval Discipline Act to join a trade union, so far as can be traced in the short time available for reply to this question. The third part of the question does not, therefore, arise.

Code And Cypher School

asked the First Lord of the Admiralty whether the annual cost of the new code and cypher school attached to the Admiralty can be stated; what is estimated to be the cost of the staff of this Department; and whether, having in mind the umber of permanent Civil servants with administrative and technical training and experience who will be redundant and available for appointment, and the Government scheme for the staffing of new Departments through the Treasury pool, it is the intention that temporary officers of the Army and Navy shall be granted pensionable appointments in this new Civil Department?

The annual cost of the school will be, approximately, £21,000 a year, which represents the average, cost of the staff. The school is being established in order to conserve and apply the special experience acquired during the War by certain officers who have been employed by the Naval and Military Intelligence Departments, and who were selected for such employment owing to the possession of qualifications not ordinarily required in the Civil Service. The Admiralty adhere to the principle of giving first consideration to the claims of existing Civil servants in all cases in which the deside- rata are administrative experience and capacity or the technical knowledge already existing in the Civil Service.

Devonport Dockyard (Apprentices)

asked the First Lord of the Admiralty whether he can give the number of apprentices to be entered at the Devonport Dockyard as the result of the next examination, and when the examination will take pace?

The number of apprenticeships at Devonport Dockyard to be offered for competition in 1920 has not yet been fixed. The examination of candidates for these apprenticeships has been announced to take place on the 15th. April next.

Demobilisation

Troops In Mesopotamia And Persia

asked the Secretary of State for War how many British soldiers are now in Mesopotamia and Persia who are not volunteers for the post-war Army; at what rate approximately these soldiers are being -relieved and sent home; and when he expects the last of these men to have left for England?

There are 10,059 soldiers in Mesopotamia and Persia who have not volunteered for the after-war Army. With regard to the latter part of the question, arrangements have been made for about 3,600 to be sent home daring December and for a further 3,000 during January. It is hoped that all personnel eligible for demobilisation will have left by the end of February next. In view, however, of the present situation in Mesopotamia, it may become necessary for these arrangements to be suspended for a time.

Building Trade Workers

asked the Secretary of State for War when the regulations will be available under which the 30,000 skilled craftsmen in the building trade will be demobilised in fulfilment of the recent promise of the Prime Minister that this number of skilled men will be released immediately?

The regulations at present in force provide that all volun- tarily enlisted men who are eligible for release will be sent for dispersal not later than 1st February, 1920, and conscripts by the 1st April, 1920. The statement of my right hon. Friend to which the hon. and gallant Member refers was, I think, to the effect that there was still a number of bricklayers who will be released in the next few weeks—not immediately, as the question suggests.

British Army

Number Of Troops (Stations)

asked the Secretary of State for War whether he can state the number of men at present serving in the Army; in what countries they are at present stationed, and, if possible, the numbers in each country, respectively; how many of them are retained under the Military Service Acts, and how many are volunteers; haw many men have since the Armistice been discharged from the Army, and how many have been placed in Reserve Z; and what is the number of Indian troops chargeable to the Imperial Exchequer and where they are located?

The numbers of other ranks in all theatres and garrisons abroad and at home on December 1st, 1919, were as follows:

Theatre, Garrison or Country.Regulars, including men enlisted for 1 year and Volunteers for Army of Occupation.Demobilisable.Total other ranks.
Rhine (approx.)*7,42935,16042,589
France and Flanders (approx.)†34,26013,74048,000
Black Sea2,19410,81713,011
Italy6002,4753,075
Egypt12,48832,16544,653
Mesopotamia7,0649,87116,935
India (adjusted from 22 Oct.)33,49024,50957,999
Colonies7,4521,4648,916
Home194,00756,283250,290
Totals298,984‡186,484485,464
* From Total Strength Return of 29th November, 1919.
†From Return of 1st November, adjusted up to let December, 1919.
‡This includes 71,137 other ranks who have enlisted for one year's service, or who have volunteered for service for one year with an Army of Occupation, nearly all of whom will become time-expired during the next three months.

The number of other ranks discharged from the Army (including the Royal Naval Division) since the Armistice is 201,221, and the number transferred to Class Z of the Reserve is 2,940,682.

The number of Indian troops chargeable to the Imperial Exchequer were on 1st November (which is the last Return available):

Rhine (Royal Artillery Drivers Royal Army Service Corps and Labour Corps.)1,226
France and Flanders (Royal Army Service Corps and Labour Corps.)7,090
Black Sea14,131
Egypt53,283
Mesopotamia72,816
Aden4,569
Other Garrisons1,347
Total154,462

Retired Officers (Retention Of Rank)

asked the Secretary of State for War if those officers who. served in our Army and were later transferred to the United States or the French Army will he given honorary rank in our Army and permitted to use the same?

Officers formerly in the British Army who were permitted to join the United States or the French Army resigned their commissions in the British Army prior to being recommissioned in the Forces of our Allies. On resigning their British commissions they are eligible, provided their service was satisfactory, for the retention of the rank held by them in the British Army under the provisions of Army Order 376 of 1918.

Paymasters (Commissions)

asked the Secretary of State for War whether it is proposed to give permanent commissions to a number of temporary officers doing duty with the Army Pay Department to the exclusion of the assistant-paymasters; and, if so, whether, before taking action, he will consider the claims of the assistant-paymasters who, after long terms of honourable service in the Regular Army, have done valuable work during the War in the Army Pay Department?

Action has already been taken to commission as paymasters a small number of temporary officers who have shown during the War special aptitude for the duties, and would otherwise have left the Department. The valuable work done by officers of the assistant-paymaster class has not been overlooked, and I am glad to say that, in addition to a due share of campaign rewards, I have been able to secure for them recently a greatly improved scale of pay.

Royal Army Veterinary Corps

asked the Secretary of State for War if he will give the number of Regular Army officers, by ranks, of the Royal Army Veterinary Corps that have voluntarily retired from the Army since February, 1919; if he can assign any reason for such retirements; and if the same conditions of pay, promotion, and retirement as for the Royal Army Medical Corps will be extended to the Royal Army Veterinary Corps?

As regards the first two parts of my hon. and gallant Friend's question, the number is ten, but no reasons can be assigned for these retirements, which were entirely voluntary. As regards the, last part, the pay up to the rank of captain is the same as in the Royal Army Medical Corps; in the higher ranks it is rather less. Pensions are the same. The conditions governing promotion are very similar—in the Royal Army Veterinary Corps to captain after five years' service and major after ten years' service; in the Royal Army Medical Corps after three and a half years and twelve years respectively. Promotion to lieutenant-colonel and higher ranks is by selection in both branches. The conditions for the Royal Army Medical Corps are being considered with a view to seeing if any departure from Army Order 324 of 1919 is necessary, and if any change is decided upon the Royal Army Veterinary Corps will be included.

Gallipoli

asked the Secretary of State for War how many British troops are now at Gallipoli; how long they have been there; and whether any complaints have been received with regard to the conditions of life for our troops in that part of Turkey?

The bon. and gallant Member appears to be mis-informed. There are no troops in Gallipoli at present.

Court-Martial (Private John Henderson, Raoc)

asked the Secretary of State for War if Private John Henderson, No. 043283, Royal Army Ordnance Corps, 109th Company, British Army in France, has been sentenced to two years' imprisonment for insolence to an officer; whether one of the witnesses against him has since been promoted; and whether, in view of the previous record of this man, he is prepared to remit the remainder of the sentence?

The offence for which this soldier was convicted was not of a trifling nature, and his record is shown by his conduct sheet to be one long series of minor insubordinations. In the circumstances, no special action can be taken in the case, but the sentence will no doubt be reviewed in accordance with the procedure recently explained to the House. I cannot, of course, at this moment make any promise that part of it will be remitted. The question of the promotion of one of the witnesses has sin bearing whatever on the case, and I cannot accept the implication which appears to be conveyed in the hon. Member's question.

Military Cross

asked the Secretary of State for War whether, as only seven of the officers whose names were brought, forward in Lord French's dispatch of 16th November, 1914, were awarded the Victoria Cross, and twenty-seven the Distinguished Service Order, while the remaining officers had to be content with mentioned, since the Military Cross had not then been instituted, he will consider the propriety of awarding the Military Cross to all surviving officers of the original Expeditionary Force who were mentioned in the above-noted dispatch, which covered the operations from Mons to Ypres, and were wounded, and also of granting the Distinguished Service Order to any such who may subsequently have gained the Military Cross for some other distinguished service.?

I regret that I cannot see my way to adopt my hon. Friend's proposal. There is no evidence that anything more than a mention would have been recommended by Lord French in these cases if the Military Cross had been in existence, and the grant of the Military Cross is in any case restricted to officers below the rank of major and to warrant, officers. I note that my lion. Friend's suggestion apparently applies only to wounded officers, but it has never been. the policy to give preference in respect of distinctions to wounded officers or soldiers. as such. The wound stripe is the particular reward common to them all.

asked the Secretary of State for War whether he is now in a. position to announce the decision as to granting a decoration for those mentioned in dispatches?

I had hoped to give my hon. and learned Friend an answer to-day, but, unfortunately, am net yet. in a position to make a statement. I wilt write my hon. and learned Friend as soon as a definite decision has been reached.

Cavalry Regiments (Foreign Service)

asked the Secretary of State for War if the 1st Dragoon Guards have moved or are under orders to move from India to Mesopotamia; if this move is a war measure or part of the routine moves for a Cavalry regiment en route for home; and how long is it intended to keep this regiment in Mesopotamia?

The 1st Dragoon Guards are now under orders to move from India to Mesopotamia. This is now a routine move for a Cavalry regiment en route for home. The regiment will be kept there one year.

asked the Secretary of State for War the order in which the British Cavalry regiments now in India are due to return from foreign service, and the order in which the first five Cavalry regiments now at home are due to go abroad?

The order in which British Cavalry regiments now in India are due to return from foreign service is as follows:

  • (i.) 1st Dragoon Guards.
  • (ii.) 8th Hussars.
  • (iii.) 21st Lancers.
  • (iv.) 3rd Dragoon Guards.
  • (v.) 19th Hussars.
  • (vi.) 5th Lancers.
  • (vii.) 18th Hussars.
  • The order in which the first five Cavalry regiments now at home are due to go abroad is as follows:
  • (i.) 7th Hussars.
  • (ii.) 2nd Dragoons (Royal Scots Greys).
  • (ii.) 5th Dragoon Guards.
  • (iii.) 4th Dragoon Guards.
  • (v.) 4th Hussars.
  • The question of whether the 2nd Dragoons (Royal Scots Greys) should be excepted from the list is still under consideration.

    Requisitioned Premises (Government Occupation)

    asked the Secretary of State for War if he is aware that the premises at 54 and 56, Golden Lane, E.C., which are at present in the occupation of the Repair of Government Clothing Department, are still being retained although the premises have been taken by a business firm, employing over 200 employés, including wounded soldiers, who are unable to obtain possession by Christmas, which they were led to suppose would be the case; if he will state what is the nature of the business now being carried on and why it is necessary to store large quantities of clothing in these premises in the heart of the metropolis when there are large numbers of empty buildings at The disposal of the Government in less expensive localities; and whether he is aware that if these premises are not vacated in time to allow of the new firm moving in a large number of employés will be placed out of work?

    The premises to which my hon and gallant Friend alludes have been used for the repair of clothing, and not for storage. Two hundred sewing women have been employed there, and over 1,000.000 articles have been repaired for re-issue since March, 1918. The employés were paid off on Friday last. I am informed that the firm who have purchased the premises state that they hope to employ fifty hands, bringing the number up to sixty as business increases. The premises have now been vacated, but it will not be possible to surrender them to the owners for some weeks yet, as there is a considerable amount of work to be done in removing Government fixtures which have been put in.

    asked the Secretary of State for War whether his Department are still in possession of the hospitals under the Metropolitan Asylums Board; and whether, in view of the present epidemic of scarlet fever and of the inadequate hospital accommodation, hospitals under the Metropolitan Asylums Board will be released in order to provide facilities for the children of the poor?

    The following Metropolitan Asylums Board hospitals remain in the hands of the War Department:

    • The Grove Hospital, Tooting.
    • The Orchard Hospital, Dartford.
    • The Lower Southern Hospital, Dartford.
    It is probable that the Grove Hospital eau be surrendered at an early date. The Orchard Hospital is now vacant, and it is not thought that this will be required further. It is understood that this hospital is kept in reserve for use in the event of an epidemic. The Lower Southern Hospital will shortly be vacated.

    Enemy Prisoners Of War

    asked the Secretary of State for War if he will state the number of German and other prisoners of war still detained by the British; how these men are employed; if the reason for the delay in repatriation is lack of shipping; and whether arrangements will be made for the Navy to undertake their transshipment to Germany?

    There are about 86,000 prisoners of war still in British charge, including about 4,000 Germans in the United Kingdom, 2,000 Bulgars in Salonika, and 80,000 Turks in Egypt and other Mediterranean stations, Mesopotamia, and India. As regards the Germans, about half are being repatriated immediately, and of the remainder a few are riot at present fit to be moved, owing to illness, but the great majority were concerned in the Scapa Flow sinkings, and are detained by direction of the Supreme Council. The Bulgars are employed on labour duties. The authority of the Supreme Council for their repatriation has been requested. Some of the Turks are engaged on useful work (irrigation, etc.). The repatriation of those in Egypt is being effected as quickly as shipping can be provided, and the authority of the Supreme Council has been requested for the repatriation of those detained elsewhere, but the shortage of sea transport must cause some delay. With regard to the last part of the question, it is not proposed to ask the Navy to undertake this transport. So far as the Germans are concerned the German Government are sending their own shipping for the purpose.

    Royal Army Ordnance Depot, Devonport (Wages)

    asked the Secretary of State for War if he is aware that the smiths and wheelers employed at the Royal Army Ordnance Depot, His Majesty's Gun Wharf, Devonport, are members of the National Union of Vehicle Builders, and that the said union is affiliated to the Federation of Engineering and Shipbuilding Trades; if so, whether. the men concerned will participate in the terms of the Court of Arbitration Award (880), Admiralty Dockyard Employés, and dated 13th November, 1919; and if they will receive the 5s. per week provided for by the Award (870), Engineering and Foundry Trades, dated 5th November, 1919?

    The War Department was not a party to Award 880 of the Interim Court of Arbitration, but the question as to what action should be taken following that Award is under consideration. Instructions have been issued under which a 5s. advance following Award 870 will be extended to the workmen employed in the Royal Army Ordnance Corps Depot at His Majesty's Gun Wharf, Devonport, who have participated in the previous engineering advances.

    Telegraph Office, General Headquarters, Great Britain

    asked the Secretary of State for War the number of telegrams dealt with between the hours of 8 p.m. and 9 a.m. on the 16th, 17th, and 18th December instant at the telegraph office attached to General Headquarters, Great Britain; whether these numbers are sufficient to justify the retention of the military staff day and night at this office; whether nine Post Office servants are retained at this establishment who are in receipt of full civil and military pay in addition to allowances; whether they include one company sergeant-major, one sergeant, two corporals, two second-corporals, and three sappers; and whether, having regard to the urgent necessity for economy, he will take immediate steps to place the staff at this office on a civilian basis, as is the case at the War Office and the Admiralty, a system which ensures that the number of the staff shall be governed by the amount of work to be performed?

    The telegraph office referred to has been closed at 8 p.m. daily since 1st December, and no messages were therefore dealt with during the hours mentioned As regards the remainder of the question, I would refer the hon. Member to the statement which I made on Tuesday last in reply to the hon. Member for Wentworth.

    Territorial Force (Divisional Commanders)

    asked the Secretary of State for War if, in view of the fact that the reconstruction of the Territorial Force divisions, which he stated he hoped would be begun by the end of November, are still non-existent, he will state if it is intended to continue to pay the fourteen divisional commanders who have already been paid as such for months, while having no divisions to command?

    The answer is in the affirmative. It should be understood that, although the terms and conditions of service for the reconstituted Territorial Force are not yet promulgated, these officers have been actively employed in preparing for the reconstruction of the force, in order that there may be no delay when the actual conditions are announced. They have been working in close consultation with the War Office on all questions connected therewith.

    War Medal (Home Service)

    asked the Secretary of State for War whether the defence forces actively engaged against and under fire from the enemy fleet during the bombardment of the Hartlepools on the 16th December, 1914, are eligible for the general service medal and, if not, will he state the reasons?

    There is no such medal as the "general service medal." The British War Medal is confined to members of His Majesty's Military Forcer who proceeded overseas during the course of the War. As previously stated, the question of awarding a medal to those who did not serve in a theatre of war or proceed overseas is under consideration.

    Signal Office, Kirkuk (Sapper Lee)

    asked the secretary of State for War whether Sapper F. W. Lee, No. 191988, of the 55th Brigade Signals, Sulaimaniyeh, has been transferred to Kirkuk; whether telegraphic inquiries as to the nature of his employment have been made; whether he is officially stated to be employed at Kirkuk as an operator; whether he is aware that there is only one vibrator line at Kirkuk, which is worked by native Indian signallers; whether it can be stated how many signal officers, non-commissioned officers, and members of the rank and file are employed at this station, and on what work they are engaged; arid whether, seeing that there is only one line in existence, immediate instructions will be given to reduce the European personnel?

    According to information received on the 14th November, Sapper Lee is employed at the Brigade Signal Office, Kirkuk, as a telegraph operator. I cannot say without special inquiry how many telegraph lines there are at present at Kirkuk, but from information available in the War Office there appears to be more than one line. The question of the reduction of British personnel must, I think, he left to the discretion of the General Officer Commanding-in-Chief in Mesopotamia, as he alone knows the actual situation.

    Officers' Allowances (Egypt And Palestine)

    asked the Secretary of State for War if he will explain why allowances due to officers are not paid on presentation of claims; if he is aware that the delay frequently extends for long periods, more especially in the case of officers in Egypt and Palestine; and if he will cause inquiries to be made at Cairo as to this matter?

    The Regulations provide for payment as soon as properly certified claims are presented, and I am not aware that there has been any general failure in Egypt and Palestine to pay promptly. I will have inquiry made, and if my hon. and gallant Friend has any particular cases in mind perhaps he will sent me particulars.

    Army Pay Offices (Male Clerks)

    asked the Secretary of State for War whether he is aware that the Staffs in the Army Pay Offices and the Record Offices of Dublin and Cork were in 1914 and 1915 composed entirely of male clerks; that these clerks for the greater part worked seven days a week and twelve hours a day and received no overtime; and. that in December, 1915, when the main part of organising the work of the offices was over, female clerks were added to the staffs and during their service were paid. for overtime work and on discharge received a gratuity of 10s. for each month of service; and whether, in view of these circumstances, he will reconsider his decision not to grant the male clerks a gratuity on, discharge?

    The pay and bonus of the clerks in question was dealt with by Award 73 of the Civil Service Arbitration Board dated 14th January, 1919. The reference to women clerks appears to be to certain clerks who served under special agreements. I am unable to agree to the payment of any gratuity in respect of the male clerks referred to.

    Officers In Uniform (Railway Fares)

    asked the Secretary of State for War whether, in considering the. question of the permission granted to officers of the Army and Navy when in uniform to travel first-class at second-class fares on the production of the requisite form authorising them to do so, he will take into consideration the entirely different and unsettled conditions under which these officers live compared with the more settled lives of the civil population, and that he will not deprive these officers of this small concession so long as the railways are under Government control?

    I can only refer my hon. and gallant Friend to the reply on Tuesday last which I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Bury St. Edmunds.

    Royal Engineers (Works Branch)

    asked the Secretary of State for War whether it has been judicially determined that officers of the staff for Royal Engineer services come under the Army Act on receiving their commissions; whether they are gazetted the same as other officers on receiving their commissions; whether their duties are military and not civilian; and, if so, will he say why they are excepted from the provision of the Royal Warrant granting pensions to the widows, and compassionate allowances to the children, of commissioned officers?

    The answer to the first two parts of my hon. Friend's question is in the affirmative. These officers are non-combatants and are employed on technical duties under the 'Works Branch of the Royal Engineers. They are not entitled to pensions for their widows and children because they are for purposes of pension treated as Civil servants and the widows and children do not receive pensions.

    Almeric Paget Massage Corps

    asked the Financial Secretary to the War Office whether the staff of the military massage service previously described as the Almeric Paget Massage Corps are entitled to a war bonus or gratuity; and whether all other branches of the Army medical and nursing services are receiving such bonus or gratuity?

    I would refer my hon. and gallant Friend to the reply on 24th November to a question on this subject asked by the hon. Member for Yeovil.

    Royal Hibernian Military School (Joseph Lush)

    asked the Secretary of State of War whether he will give instructions that the boy Joseph Lush be released from the Royal Hibernian Military School in order that he may emigrate with his mother to Australia?

    The governors have approved the release of this boy from the Royal Hibernian Military School in order that he may emigrate with his mother to Australia.

    Naval And Military Pensions And Grants

    Wife's Allowance

    asked the Minister of Pensions whether it is the practice of his Department to refuse wife's allowance to a pensioned soldier upon the ground that his disability has only been aggravated by war service; and whether he is aware that this has been done in the case of Second-Corporal E. A. Smith, 2nd Field Survey Battalion, Royal Engineers, now living at 11, Great World's End, Wisbech?

    The answer to the first part of the question is in the negative. As regards Corporal Smith's case, there was not sufficient evidence in his official documents to enable the grant of the wife's allowance to be made at the same time as his pension. No refusal of the grant has been made, but, unfortunately, there has been some delay in calling for the marriage certificate to verify the date of marriage, etc. This has now been done and the case will be considered immediately the certificate comes to hand.

    Identity Certificate

    asked the Minister of Pensions whether Private George Joliffe (identity certificate S. E. 175,497) has not received his pension or gratuity; whether he is aware that this man is entirely destitute, and under notice to be ejected from his house with his wife and family; and what steps he will take to have this man paid his money without further delay?

    An identity certificate was forwarded to Private Joliffe to enable him to be paid the balance of his gratuity (£3 5s. 7d.). As it appears not to have reached him a new certificate has now been sent.

    Separation Allowance

    asked the Secretary of State for War whether the wife of Lance-Corporal George A. Edwards, No. 18976, 8th Royal Irish Regiment, was admitted to Cane Hill Asylum on the 5th June, 1916, and died there on the 14th December, 1917, while he was serving in Palestine; whether the separation allowance ceased on her admission; Whether he is aware that the Camberwell guardians have appropriated towards her maintenance the money due to him under a policy of insurance; whether the grounds for stopping the allowance under the Army Regulations are based upon the assumption that in such cases the burden of maintenance has been shifted from the husband to an institution supported by public funds; and whether as in this case, the burden has been borne by the husband, he will direct that the separation allowances shall be paid to him for the period during which his wife was an inmate of the asylum?

    The facts are as stated. It was decided, after very full consideration, that in such cases the issue of separation allowance from Army funds should cease, and that any payment necessitated by the special circumstances of the case should be made under the authority of the Ministry of. Pensions, which possesses machinery for giving discretionary treatment in individual cases. I am not in a position to judge whether in this case any claim arises against Pension Ministry funds.

    War Gratuity

    asked the Secretary of State for War what is the period of demobilisation leave granted to officers on demobilisation; what is the average time that elapses between the demobilisation of an officer and the payment to him of the gratuity that is due; and what steps are taken to enable demobilised officers to live during that time?

    No demobilisation leave is granted to officers. The gratuities, which are paid by the Army agents, were all ordered to be paid as soon as possible after the 4th August last, and I understand they have practically all been paid

    asked the Secretary of State for War whether Lance-Corporal Philips Hughes, No. 553056. I.W.T.R.E., who was demobilised in Mal, 1919 has not received either his credits or gratuity; whether he can explain the cause of the de- lay; and whether he can expedite the payment to enable this soldier having it before Christmas?

    I think further inquiry will show the hon. Member that he has been misinformed. This soldier's gratuity was deposited in the Post Office Savings Bank in May and was withdrawn in June. Apart from the gratuity, he left the service considerably in debt.

    Women's Forage Corps

    asked the Financial Secretary to the War Office whether he is aware that Mary Otterway No. 928, Forage Corps, Army Service Corps, is suffering from disability caused by war service; and what provision, if any, is made by the War Office or by the Ministry of Pensions for meeting the hardship caused in this and similar cases of women injured on account of war service?

    I am afraid I cannot at present add anything to the official letter of the 12th instant, in which my lion. Friend was informed that under the Regulations as they stand Miss Otterway is not entitled to any compensation front Army funds. I should, however, like to point out that this woman was not injured on account of war service, and that there is no intention to treat cases of sickness at home generally otherwise than as at present under the National Health Insurance Act.

    Post Office Servants (War Gratuity)

    asked the Financial Secretary to the War Office whether Post Office employés demobilised from the Royal Engineers and Royal Air Force are specially excluded by Army Council Instructions from receiving a war gratuity; and, if so, whether he will state the reason why a distinction should be made between these and other ex-Service men?

    I would refer the hon and gallant Member to the reply given to the hon. Member for East Nottingham on the 27th October last.

    Housing And Furnishing Trades

    asked the Minister of Pensions if he is aware that the New- castle-upon-Tyne war pensions committee have passed a resolution that, in view of the great demand for skilled workmen in the housing and furniture trades, this committee recommend that steps should at once be taken in order that training may forthwith be commenced in these trades; and if he is having any men trained or proposes to have any trained?

    I have been asked to reply to this question. I would refer the hon. and gallant Member to the answer given to the lion. Member for Newcastle North on the 8th December.

    Munitions

    Slate Quarries, Ballachulish

    asked (1) the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Munitions whether his Department have taken a lease for ten years of certain slate quarries at Ballachulish, in Argyllshire; whether he is aware that, although these quarries contain large supplies of best quality slate, no work is being done; and whether, in view of the great need of slate for housing purposes, it is proposed to make full use of these quarries without further delay;(2) the Minister of Health whether he is aware of any slate quarries at Ballachulish in Argyllshire which have been taken on a lease for ten years by a Government Department; whether he is aware that these quarries contain large supplies of best quality slate; and whether he can take any action to secure the resumption of work at these quarries in order to obtain slate for housing purposes?

    The position is that no lease of the quarries has so far been taken by the Ministry, but that it is in contemplation to take one if satisfactory arrangement can be made for the working of the quarries by a contractor on a commercial basis. Negotiations with this object are proceeding.

    Munitions From America

    asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Munitions if he will state at what date the delivery of munitions from America on British contracts entered into during the War ceased; if any of these deliveries occurred since the Armistice will he give the full particulars per month of such de liveries, together with the approximate tonnage space which they occupied on transport, and a comparison with the figures for the months of the previous year; and whether any of such deliveries of munitions and, if so, how much were supplied, or are being supplied, to the armies of Denikin or Koltchak, to the Archangel Army, to the North-West Army lately under General Yudenitch's command, or to any other forces stationed in what was previously the territory of the Russian Empire?

    Owing to the short notice given, I am not at present in a position to reply to this question. I will, as soon as possible, communicate with my hon. Friend and give him such information as may be obtained without involving labour to an extent which would be disproportionate to the importance of the subject.

    Seaplane Station, Hornsea Mere

    asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Munitions whether he is aware that the Disposal Board of the Ministry of Munitions have advertised Hornsea Mere, in the East Riding of Yorkshire, as being for sale as a seaplane station; whether this has been done with his consent; and whether he is aware that this lake is private property which was acquired temporarily by the Admiralty under agreement with the owner in 1917?

    Hornsea Mere was advertised as being for disposal with a view to ascertaining whether the Government property there could be disposed of in any way other than by the dismantling of the buildings and plant. The Department has now given instructions that any buildings which might he of use to the owner should be sold to her, and that the remainder, if any, should be sold for removal.

    Surplus Cloth

    asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Munitions if he is aware of tenders being asked for from Bradford, Nottingham, Norwich, Bristol, Preston, Manchester, Glasgow, Dublin, and Westminster in connection with 1,214,709 yards of surplus cloth, serge, and tweed; if so, will he explain why tenders have not been asked for from Newcastle-on-Tyne; and whether the whole country will be allowed to tender?

    My hon. Friend has been misinformed. The whole country has been invited by advertisements in the public Press and otherwise to tender for the surplus cloth referred to.

    Police Hostels, Mancot Royal, Flintshire

    asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Munitions whether, having regard to the fact that there is now, and has been for many months past, a number of police hostels at Mancot Royal, Flintshire, unoccupied which could easily be converted into cottages, and a number of official residences at the same place also unoccupied and easily convertible into fiats, be is prepared to release these buildings forthwith for these purposes, in view of the notorious famine of houses in this district?

    Of the total of 194 houses at Queensferry, 181 are occupied by tenants who are or were employés of the factory. I am advised that the hostels could not easily be converted into working class dwellings. Four of them are quite unsuitable for conversion, and the remaining two could only be converted at heavy expense. The future of the factory is still unsettled, and, in. the meantime, the Ministry cannot well dispose of the premises since they may be required as they stand, either for Ministry employés or for the employés of the purchasers of the factory if it be decided to sell.

    Edmonton Munitions Company

    asked the Parliamentary secretary to the Ministry of Munitions, whether a public inquiry can be held into the matter of the claim of the male employés of the Edmonton Munitions Company?

    The claim of the male employés of the Edmonton Munitions Company was, with the agreement of both parties, referred to an arbitrator, who has given Ins award thereon. In these circumstances, no good purpose would be served by a further inquiry.

    Stores Department (Staff)

    asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Munitions whether the recent statement concerning the staff of the Disposal Board included the staff employed under the Stores Department of the Ministry of Munitions; and, if not, what is the number of that staff and the cost per annum?

    The statement referred to did not include tire staff of the Stores Department. The number of persons employed in the Stores Department is 256, representing an annual charge in. salaries of £65,000.

    India

    Miners' Wages

    asked the Secretary of State for India whether the daily rate of pay for the Indian miner is equivalent to 4½d.?

    According to my information the average daily rate is equivalent to rather more than 1s.

    British Troops (Charge On Indian Revenue)

    asked the Secretary of State for India whether he can state the number of British troops whose maintenance is a charge upon the revenues of. India?

    Indian Army, Mesopotamia (British Officers)

    asked the Secretary of State for India what steps are being taken to remedy the shortage of British officers with the battalions of the Indian Army serving in Mesopotamia and to give leave to those officers who have for so long been deprived of it?

    I am in consultation with the War Office and hope to be able to make arrangements to meet the situation at an early date.

    Burma (Mahng Tun Shein)

    asked the Secretary of State for India whether he has yet received the information which he. promised to get concerning the case of Maung Tun Shein; and whether he is in a. position to add anything to his statement of 4th December concerning the efforts of the Burmese Government to secure the dismissal of Maung Tun Shein from his position at the Mandalay College on account of his participation in the Burmese national deputation?

    I have asked the Government of India for a full report, but at present have not yet received it.

    Rice Crop, Burma

    asked the Secretary of State for India whether he is in a position to state whether steps have been, or will at once be, taken to remove the Government control over rice in Burma, or whether, if control is maintained, he will arrange to fix a minimum price for purchase from the cultivators in order to safeguard the cultivators against exploiters; and whether he is aware that this question is urgent if provision is to be made in advance to safeguard the cultivators in respect of the next harvest?

    It has been found necessary to maintain Government control over the coming rice crop of Burma in order to safeguard the food supply of India. The form of control to be applied is at present under discussion in India. I have already brought to the notice of the local Government a suggestion that a minimum price should be fixed for purchases from the cultivators. I am aware that the matter is urgent.

    Miners' Hours And Wages, Bengal

    asked the Secretary of State for India what are the average hours worked per week by the Indian miners in Bengal; and what are their average wages per week at the current rate of exchange?

    The hours of workers in Indian mines are not at present regulated by law, and no accurate statistics are, therefore, available. The Government of India. have recently reported on the best information available that the average weekly hours worked are not excessive—probably less than fifty. The average weekly wages are from 6s. 6d. to 8s.

    Famine And Epidemic Diseases (Mortality)

    asked the Secretary of State for India if he can state the number of deaths which have occurred in India during the last year as a result of famine and epidemic diseases?

    I give below the figures showing the number of reported deaths in British India under each principal head in 1918:

    From Cholera560,802
    From Small-pox93,076
    From Plague440,752
    From Fever11,134,441
    From Dysentery and Diarrhoea276,648
    From Respiratory Diseases430,935
    From Injuries98,969
    From all other causes1,861,178
    14,895,801
    No deaths are reported as being due to famine. As there is no separate head for "influenza" in the. Indian mortality returns, deaths from that cause must have been recorded under one or other of the prescribed heads.

    Shwe Dagon Pagoda, Burma

    asked the Secretary of State for India whether the Shwe Dagon Pagoda is the most sacred shrine of the Buddhists of Burma; whether a part of this pagoda is in the occupation of the military; whether this military occupation is an offence to the religious susceptibilities of the Buddhists of Burma; whether the pagoda is of no value as a military fort; and whether he will take steps to secure that the pagoda shall be restored to the Buddhists of Burma for use for purely religious purposes?

    I will make inquiries about the points raised by my hon. Friend. I am not aware that any part of the pagoda is in the occupation of the military.

    Burma Press

    asked the Secretary of State for India whether the "Burma Observer" has had a deposit of Rs. 2,000 forfeited by the Burmese Government and a further deposit of Rs. 5,000 exacted; whether the "Rangoon Mail" has been ordered to furnish a deposit; whether the journal "Knowledge" has had a deposit of Rs. 1,000 forfeited and a further deposit of Rs. 5,000 exacted; if so, in respect of what alleged offence these steps were taken; and whether he will make a full statement concerning the action of the Government in relation to the Burmese Press?

    I have no official information, but I gather from the Burma newspapers that the facts are as stated. I am asking for information.

    East Africa Protectorate (Economic Commission Report)

    asked the Under-Secretary of State for the Colonies whether he has received a copy of the Final Report (Part I.) of the Economic Commission appointed by the Government of the East Africa Protectorate; whether his attention has been called to passages in that Report which reflect in offensive terms upon the civilisation of the Indian people, upon their morality, and upon the alleged danger to the moral and physical welfare and the economic progress of the African people which accompany the presence of Indians in the. country; whether the opinions so expressed are concurred in by the Government of the Protectorate or by His Majesty's Government; whether His Majesty's Government are aware of the intense indignation which these attacks have created amongst Indians in East Africa and in India.; whether His Majesty's Government are aware that, as is openly advocated by the authors of this Report, it is the desire of a number of settlers in the Protectorate to close the door to further Indian immigration and secure the elimination of the existing Indian population; and what steps the Government are taking to protect the resident Indian population of the Protectorate, and to maintain an open door for Indian immigration on equal terms with immigration from other countries than India?

    The Report of the Economic Commission has been received, but the views expressed in it must not be regarded as being those either of the Government of the East African Protectorate or of His Majesty's Government. The whole question of the policy of the Protectorate in relation to Indians will be discussed between the Governor, who is now in this country, and the Secretary of State on his return from Egypt.

    School Teachers (Super Annuation)

    asked the President of the Board of Education if he is aware that under the Statutory Rules for the Superannuation of Teachers in Scotland, 1919, Section 3, a teacher who is receiving an allowance under the Elementary School Teachers (Superannuation) Act, 1898, will continue to receive a retiring allowance equal in amount thereto, and also an additional allowance annually of £1 or 15s. or 10s. for each year of service; and will steps be taken to grant to all teachers in England now receiving a retiring allowance under the Elementary School Teachers (Superannuation) Act, 1898, an additional allowance, similar to teachers in Scotland?

    As I have explained, the systems of superannuation for teachers in England and Scotland are different and independent. The suggestion made by the hon. Member could not be carried into effect without legislation, which I do not see my way to undertake.

    Works Schools

    asked the President of the Board of Education how many works schools are at present undergoing inspection by local education authorities; where such schools are situated; the number of scholars in regular attendance; and the subjects taught in these schools?

    I presume that by "works schools" the hon. Member means schools attended by young persons between the ages of fourteen and eighteen, arid held at or in connection with the places of their employment? Where schools of this character receive Grants from the Board, they are inspected by the Board, but no special lists of them are kept. There are also a certain number of schools which have been. or are being established as continuation schools on a voluntary basis in advance of the appointed day under Section 10 of the Act of 1918. If they are working under the control and direction of the local education authority they are open to inspection by the local education authority. I am unable to make a statement in the form suggested by the hon. Member, but I will furnish him with such information as is available.

    Golden Ballot

    asked the Home Secretary if his attention has been drawn to advertisements of the Golden Ballot, in which prizes of a motor car, a house, and money are offered; if this ballot is an infringement of the Lottery Act; and, if so, what steps are being taken in the matter?

    My attention has been called to the matter. On the information available, it is difficult to say whether there has been or will be an infringement of the law, but the Attorney-General and the Director of Public Prosecutions have had the question before them, and have not advised a prosecution.

    Asylums Visiting Committees (Women)

    asked the Home Secretary whether county councils which have no women members on their body can co-opt women to serve, on the committee of their county asylums; and, if this power does not exist, whether, in view of the fact that at least half the patients in these institutions are women and so many county councils have no women members, steps will be taken to give county councils the power to co-opt women on their asylum committees?

    There is no power to add co-opted members, whether men or women, to the visiting committee of an asylum. I agree that in the event of any amendment of the Lunacy Acts it may be well to provide for the appointment of co-opted members, as in the case of the committees under the Mental Deficiency Act.

    Admiralty Arch (Traffic)

    asked the Home Secretary why the whole time of an inspector of police is devoted to stopping traffic from going through the middle arch of Admiralty Arch, in view of the fact that the public have always had the right to go through there; what reason can be given for robbing the public of their rights in this matter; and what other public gates does he intend to close?

    I have been asked to answer this question. Traffic passing through file centre arch has been stopped by the gatekeeper for the reasons given in my reply to the question addressed to me by the hon. and gallant Member on the 28th July last. I think, however, that the centre arch may now be safely thrown open to traffic, and I am issuing instructions accordingly. With regard to the last part of the question, there is no intention at present of closing any other gates.

    King's Proctor

    asked the Home Secretary if he will state the salary of the King's Proctor, the expenses of his office in connection with his duties under the Matrimonial Causes Act, 1857, and, taking the average for the past five years, the annual number of cases in which he intervenes successfully; whether any data exist as to the moral results of Ins successful intervention or of the mode of life led by the parties directly concerned; and whether, as such an official is deemed unnecessary in Scotland, the Government will consider the desirability of abolishing the office?

    My right hon. Friend has asked me to reply to this question. The Procurator-General (called in divorce matters "the King's Proctor") receives no salary in respect of his duties, whether in divorce or in prize matters. He receives a salary as Treasury Solicitor. In the last completed year the expenses of his office in connection with divorce amounted to £9,958 13s. 8d. He has intervened successfully in 164 cases during the past five years—that is to say, an annual average of thirty-three cases. There have been during the same period five unsuccessful interventions. No such data as are referred to in the question appear to exist with regard to the moral results of the Procurator-General's interventions. The answer to the last part of the question is in the negative.

    Poor Persons Rules (Divorce)

    asked the Home Secretary whether his attention has been called to the Report of the Committee appointed to inquire into the administration of the Poor Persons Rules (Divorce); whether he will arrange that the out-of-pocket expenses referred to in these rules should be clearly defined owing to the growing expenses thrown on poor persons seeking to make use of the supposed assistance offered them in divorce petitions presented under these rules?

    My right hon. Friend has asked me to answer this question. The Report of the Committee appointed to inquire into the administration of the Poor Persons Rules is receiving very careful consideration. Draft rules are being prepared to give effect to the proposals made in the Report. Before they can become operative it is necessary that they should receive the consideration of the Rule Committee of the Supreme Court, within whose province the matter lies. It is hoped that the draft may be placed before the Committee at an early date.

    Dispensers (Registration)

    asked the Minister of Health whether a by-law was passed in June last providing for the registration as chemists and druggists of holders of the diploma in dispensing of the Society of Apothecaries who obtained the same before 31st December, 1908; and whether there is any possibility of a person who obtained the diploma in 1910, and who, since that date, has had five years' Army service, being registered without further examination?

    My right hon. Friend has asked me to answer this question. The Pharmaceutical society have passed a bylaw, now awaiting the approval of the Privy Council, which provides for the registration as pharmaceutical chemists or chemists and druggists of assistants to apothecaries who obtained before the 21st December, 1908, a certificate of qualification under the Apothecaries Act, 1815. I understand that there is no possibility of a relaxation of the provisions of the by-law in question in favour of such a case as my right hon. Friend has in mind.

    Housing

    Labour Dispute, Swansea

    asked the Minister of Health if he is aware that the men employed on a housing scheme at Swansea have refused to work because the doors, window frames, sashes, and other joinery work is being made by joiners in a special factory employing trade unionists and paying trade union wages, and that this action means further delay in providing houses for the workers in that town and district; and whether he proposes to take any action?

    I am in communication with the Town Council on this matter, and hope that a way may speedily be found out of the difficulties which, as my hon. Friend points out, are seriously delaying the provision of houses for the workers of Swansea.

    Local Loans

    asked the Minister of Health whether he is aware that the urban district council of Tottenham has only received one tender offering to loan the council the sum of £75 in response to a widely-circulated public advertisement inviting tenders for a loan of £750,000 for housing purposes; whether he is aware that the council's housing scheme is being held up because the local authority is not able to obtain the necessary loan; and whether he will state what financial or other arrangements will be made by the Ministry with a view of securing the carrying out of the Tottenham housing scheme, the lay-out plan for which has now been approved by the London Housing Board?

    I understand that the urban district council of Tottenham has so far been unsuccessful in obtaining money for their housing scheme, and that, in consequence, the council is unable to proceed immediately with its scheme. I hope, however, that its further efforts to secure the necessary finance by means of the proposed local bonds and otherwise will prove successful.

    asked the Minister of Health whether his attention has been drawn to a resolution of Municipal Corporation Associations stating that, as it is anticipated local authorities will experience difficulty in borrowing in the open market all the money for defraying the cost of housing schemes, the Government should be urged to arrange to lend the requisite sums in case of necessity; and whether he will indicate the intentions of the Government respecting the same?

    I would refer the hon. Member to the recommendations of the Goschen Committee on Housing Finance, on which Municipal Corporations were represented. The Committee recommended that the responsibility for raising money for housing purposes should remain with the local authorities. I have every hope that the proposed local bonds, for which provision has been made in the new Bill, will go a long way to help local authorities in their efforts to secure the necessary finance

    asked the Minister of Health whether he will encourage subscriptions to local loan bonds for housing purposes by allowing such bonds to be free of Income Tax up to a maximum amount of £500 held by any one person, as in the case of War Savings Certificates?

    It is not possible to allow interest on local bonds to be exempt from Income Tax. The Housing (Additional Powers) Bill, 1919, as amended, provides for payment of interest without deduction of tax at the source in the case of any holder of registered bonds up to an aggregate of £100 issued by any local authority. I am satisfied that this provision will add considerably to the popularity of the bonds.

    Hurlingiiam Polo Ground

    asked the Minister of Health whether the Ministry has refused its sanction to the compulsory purchase by the Fulham Borough Council of the Hurlingham Polo Ground (No. 2) for the purposes of housing; and, if so, whether he will state the extent of the ground which it was proposed to purchase, and the gross and net rental attributed to it for purposes of local taxation?

    I felt myself compelled to refuse sanction to the proposal of the Fulham Borough Council to acquire the site in question, as I was advised that the compensation likely to be payable upon proceedings under the Acquisition of Land Act would render this land too expensive as a housing site. The area of the ground proposed to be acquired was 14¾ acres. I understand that the club is assessed as a whole, that the special war time assessments were £1,800 gross and £1,500 net estimated rental, and that at the last quinquennial valuation the figures were £3,745 and £3,121 respectively.

    Working-Class Houses (Average Cost)

    asked the Minister of Health what is the mated average price at which working class houses can be built in Great Britain; and what proportion of this cost, approximately, is paid in wages, including the production and transportation of all raw materials and the preparation of the site?

    The average cost of a house, excluding land, roads, and sewers, may be estimated, on the basis of tenders already approved, at about £730, and the average total cost, including land, roads, and sewers, at about £800. Of the latter sum between £340 and £350 is comprised in the cost of labour directly employed in the building of the house, but a large proportion of the remaining sum is attributable to the cost of labour in production and transportation.

    Dagenham Scheme

    asked the Minister of Health whether he is aware that the London County Council are about to erect a large new town near Dagenham, in the county of Essex, comprising about. 25,000 houses, to hold about 125, 000 persons, at an estimated cost of between £20,000,000 and £25,000,000; and, if so, whether there will be any public or Departmental inquiry held at which parties interested can attend, as the influx of such a nature will involve many questions as to roads, sewage, water supply, and lighting?

    I do not think it will be necessary to hold a formal public inquiry, but conferences are bring held between representatives of the Ministry of Health, the county council, and parties interested, and the questions to which the hon. Member refers are receiving consideration

    Norbury Scheme

    asked the Minister of Labour whether he has received any representations from the Croydon Borough Council with reference to the housing scheme of the London County Council at Norbary, where the foundations are already being laid; whether he is aware that the scheme provides twenty-seven houses to the acre; that over 90 per cent of the houses will have two bedrooms only; that the floor area of many of the bedrooms will be less than the desirable standard or the standard laid down by the Ministry for the occupation by two persons; that the floor area of many of the living rooms will be below the standard laid down by the Ministry; and that the angle houses will have disadvantages similar to those found in back-to-back houses, namely, inadequate ventilation; and whether, in view of the fact that the scheme is very much inferior to the standard recognised by the Croydon Council, he will take immediate, steps to secure its reconsideration?

    asked the Minister of Labour whether he has received any representations from the Croydon Borough Council with reference to the housing scheme of the London County Council at Norbury, where the foundations are already being laid; whether he is aware that the scheme provides for twenty-seven houses to the acre, that over 90 per cent of the houses will have two bedrooms only; that the floor area of many of the bedrooms will he less than the desirable standard or the standard laid down by the Ministry for occupation by two persons; that the floor area of many of the living rooms will be below the standard laid down by the Ministry; and that the angle houses will have disadvantages similar to those found in back-to-hack houses, namely, inadequate ventilation; and whether, in view of the fact that the scheme is very much inferior to the standard recognised by the Croydon Borough Council, he will take immediate steps to secure its reconsideration?

    I have been asked to answer these questions: I have received the representations in question. The London County Council's housing scheme at Norbury is for the extension of an estate upon which work was commenced before the War, when the streets and sewers of the whole estate were laid out. In view of the urgent need of houses and the fact that any extensive modification of the plans would have caused considerable delay, I decided, though reluctantly, to allow the scheme to continue according to the plans originally prepared, and work has been commenced on the scheme. I understand that the houses, though small, are conveniently planned, and that there is a considerable local demand for such houses. It has been made clear to the London County Council that plans for any new schemes must conform with present standards.

    County Borough Extension, West Riding

    asked the Minister of Health whether his attention has been called to the plans of various county boroughs in the West Riding of Yorkshire to extend their areas; whether he has received from the West Riding of Yorkshire County Council an expression of opinion that the time has arrived when Parliament should lay down definite prin- ciples upon which such borough extensions can be carried out; and whether, to avoid heavy outlay of public money and to ensure justice to all the interests concerned, he proposes to enunciate on behalf of the Ministry a specific line of policy on the subject?

    The answer to the first two parts of the question is in the affirmative. Each proposal must be considered on its merits and with due regard to the particular circumstances. No extension is allowed without first holding a local inquiry at which full opportunity is afforded to all parties to give evidence in regard to the-extension proposed. In regard to the last part of the question, I regret to say that notwithstanding repeated advice which has been given by my predecessors, unnecessary expenditure is frequently incurred by local authorities in connection with these inquiries on the employment of experts and counsel.

    Ministry Of Health (Publicity Work)

    asked the Minister of health the cost to date of the publicity work in connection with the Ministry of Health?

    Isolation Institutions, London

    asked the Minister of Health what hospital accommodation there is for the isolation of scarlet fever and diphtheria cases in London; and, if he is not satisfied with the present accommodation, what steps are being taken to remedy the present Conditions?

    In 1914 there were in London under the Metropolitan Asylums Board twelve institutions containing 7,065 beds for the treatment of infectious diseases (excluding institutions specially reserved for small-pox). Certain of these were lent to the military authorities during the War on account of war exigencies, but these have now all been returned with the exception of two, one of which will be returned by the end of February. I am corresponding with the War Office with regard to the other. One additional institu- tion has been made available for infectious cases. The twelve institutions now available have normally 6,162 beds, the bulk of which are available for scarlet fever and diphtheria. In addition, there is a reserve hospital, with 350 beds, which could be used in an emergency for these cases so long as there is no small-pox epidemic. I am satisfied that all possible steps are being taken.

    asked the Minister of Health whether, in connection with the present epidemic of scarlet fever, he will make representations to the War Office for the release of hospitals under the Metropolitan Asylums Board in order to provide facilities for the children of the poor who may catch this complaint?

    The requisite representations have been made, and arrangements are proceeding for the surrender of the few institutions remaining.

    Rents Acts

    asked the Minister of Health whether the poster explaining the Rents Acts is to be distributed all over the country; whether he is aware that in Hereford, as in many other places, the provisions of the Act are little known and are being violated; and whether he will have the poster Issued in Hereford?

    I do not think that the Government can undertake to distribute the poster all over the country, but the poster has been published in the Press, and I am prepared to send a copy of it to any local authority who may desire to publish it at their own expense.

    Scarlet Fever, London

    asked the Minister of Health if he can state the number of scarlet fever cases in London at the present time; whether some time ago there was discovered in Sweden or Norway a prophylactic for scarlet fever; whether this remedy has been given a trial in this country; and whether he can give any information on the matter?

    asked the Minister of Health if he can state the number of scarlet fever cases in London at the present time; whether some time ago there was discovered in Sweden or Norway a prophylactic for scarlet fever; whether this remedy has been given a trial in this country; and whether he can give any information on the matter?

    I am informed by the Metropolitan Asylums Board that on the 18th instant the number of scarlet fever cases in their institutions was 2,900. A variety of drugs and other applications have at different times been thought to have prophylactic value for scarlet fever. It is not clear what prophylactic treatment is referred to in the question, but if the lion Member can give further particulars I shall be glad to supply whatever information it is practicable to give on the subject.

    National Health Insurance

    Mercantile Marine(Medical Benefit)

    asked the Minister of Health (1) whether seamen pay 4d. per week for fifty-two weeks yearly under the National Health Insurance Acts; and if medical benefit is available in every instance for these men whilst at sea;(2) whether medical officers in the Mercantile Marine are paid under the National Health Insurance Act for attending those of the crew who are insured persons?

    Seamen in the Mercantile Marine are liable to a deduction of 4d. a week from their pay in respect of health insurance contributions which cover the cost of sickness and other cash benefits as well as medical benefit, They are not entitled to medical benefit under those Acts whilst at sea, as the owner of the ship is liable under the Merchant Shipping Acts to provide them with medical treatment. If a seaman on the home trade falls ill on board ship he is usually put ashore at the nearest home port and at once becomes entitled to medical benefit under the Insurance Act. He is, therefore, in effect, entitled to medical benefit throughout the year. In the case of the man on a foreign-going ship, the full deduction of 4d. is made for every week of service, but on the average he only serves for about four-fifths of the year, and the Act provides that he shall be fully insured throughout the year in return for the payment of contributions for four-fifths of the year only. No payment is made under the National Health Insurance Acts to medical officers in the Mercantile Marine for attending insured seamen, as no duties are imposed on such officers by those Acts.

    Sanatorium Treatment, London

    asked the Minister of Health if his attention has been called to a report by the medical adviser to the insurance committee for the county of London, in which it is stated that, of insured persons in the county of London recommended for sanatorium benefit during 1914, over 70 per cent. died before the expiration of 1918, and that lack of financial means on the part of such insured person was largely responsible for this deplorable result; and whether he is pre- pared to take any, and what, steps to provide or suggest a remedy for such a state of affairs in the future?

    The answer to the first part of the question is in the affirmative. The question whether further provision should be made out of public funds, apart from the Poor Law, to supplement the financial assistance already provided in such cases under the National Health Insurance Acts, is one which must, I think, merge in the large economic questions governing the provision of public assistance in cases of disease accompanied by indigence.

    Unemployed Benefit

    asked the Minister of Labour if he will explain the grounds on which unemployed men in the Accrington district are being compelled to put in a second waiting period, contrary to the provision of the Act, before unemployment benefit is paid to them; and whether this is consequent upon the withdrawal of the Government unemployment donation making necessary a new waiting period for the ordinary unemployment benefit?

    I understand that certain workmen at Accrington have, for some time, been working three days a week and standing off work for the other three days, and that they have been in receipt of donation in respect of the days on which they were standing off. On the stoppage of donation, they claimed un- employment benefit; but, in view of the fact that they had not been continuously unemployed for six days within the meaning of the statutory rule, they were required to complete this number of waiting days before becoming entitled to un- employment benefit. This procedure was necessitated by the statutory requirements, which I have no power to alter.

    Milk And Dairies (Consolidation) Act, 1915

    asked the Minister of Health if he will explain why the Milk and Dairies (Consolidation) Act, 1915, which provides for the necessary cleanliness of milk supplied to consumers, and also assists the local authority in their work in defeating the warranty defence, has not been brought into operation; and whether he will state the probable time of such Act being brought into operation?

    The reason is that, as already announced, it has been decided to introduce legislation to amend and extend the provision of the Act referred to (the Milk and Dairies (Consolidation) Act, 1915) in certain particulars before bringing it into operation.

    Leigh Corporation (Bonus)

    asked the Minister of Health whether he is aware that the Leigh Corporation, Lancashire, have refused to grant award No. 84 bonus to their officials, and decline to refer the matter to arbitration; and if he will use his good offices to get the differences satisfactorily adjusted in view of the prevailing discontent amongst the corporation officials?

    I am not aware that the Leigh Corporation have refused to apply the award referred to, but I am in communication with the corporation in regard to the matter.

    Coal Production

    Household Fuel And Lighting Order 1919

    asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he is aware that administrators of the Household Fuel and Lighting Order are restrained from doing their duty in protecting the public owing to the defective drafting of the Household Fuel and Lighting Order, 1919; that, owing to this system obtaining, dissatisfaction prevails with those anxious to carry out their duties without fear or favour; and whether the terms of the Order will he reconsidered?

    I am not aware of the existence of dissatisfaction of the nature indicated, and as at present advised I see no reason to amend the Order.

    Coal Prices (Excess Charges)

    asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he is aware that although coal is supposed to be controlled in price from the pit to the consumer, this exists more in theory than in practice, and that excess charges are extensively being made over and above that allowed under the Coal Prices (Limitations) Act and the Wholesale Coal Prices Order; and whether steps will be taken to prevent such excess charges?

    The number of cases in which complaints of irregular charges either by collieries or merchants are found to be justified are relatively few, having regard to the large tonnage of coal sold for consumption in the United Kingdom. If the hon. Member will be so good as to furnish full particulars of any cases which may come to his notice in which there is prima facie evidence of overcharge, immediate investigation will be made.

    Blinker Coal (Coastwise And Fishing Vessels)

    asked the President of the Board of Trade if he will consider granting a rebate in the price of coal for fishing vessels and coasters standing on rail, in lighters ready for transfer to such vessel's bunkers, dispatched from collieries on or before 29th November, 1919, to bring the price of such coal down to the present factory price, as has been done in the case of dealers in household coal in similar circumstances?

    The revised prices of coal for bunkering vessels in the coastwise trade and fishing trawlers apply to coal dispatched from the pit-head on and after the 1st December, and represent substantial reductions in the prices hitherto charged for bunker coal for these classes of vessels. I regret that I am unable to grant the further concession now suggested by the hon. and gallant Member.

    Insulated Ships (Demurrage)

    asked the President of the Board of Trade whether it is the intention of the Government to pay demurrage for the delays in discharging frozen meat at ports in the United Kingdom, seeing that the delays amount to anything between one to three weeks, involving very heavy loss to owners, especially where such delays are caused to steamers with only part cargoes of frozen meat; and whether demurrage is allowed by the Government under similar conditions where steamers are discharged at Continental ports?

    As British insulated ships were released from the liner requisition of the Ministry of Shipping in March last, their insulated spaces reverted to the control of the Board of Trade, and the latte entered into an agreement with the owners, one of the conditions of which was that no demurrage should be payable in respect of delays in ports in the United Kingdom, but that a somewhat higher rate of demurrage than that previously agreed should be allowed in the case of vessels discharging frozen meat in Continental ports. Liberty was also given to shipowners to bring up the question of demurrage in the United Kingdom ports for reconsideration after six months' experience of the rate of discharge. This they have now done, and the matter is receiving attention, but I am not yet in a position to say what the decision of the Government will be.

    Profiteering Act

    asked the President of the Board of Trade whether, having regard to the fact that profiteering is the direct result of the scarcity of all articles of common use and consumption by the public caused by the War, and that the problem of dealing with excessive profits charged is a national one, he will consider the question of defraying the whole of the expenses of local committees under the Profiteering Act, 1919, out of the national Exchequer, as in the case of local tribunals under the Military Service Acts and the food control committees, etc.?

    I would refer the hon. Member to the answer I gave to the hon. Member for Plaistow on the 1st December.

    asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he can inform the House of the results so far achieved by the Profiteering Act and particularly what, under the heading of classified trades, is the total number of complaints made and investigated by committees and tribunals against retailers; what is the total of the sums ordered to be refunded; what is the total number of appeals from local committees and how many were allowed; what has been the cost incurred or estimated to the end of November or for the six months working contemplated by the Act; and how many prosecutions have been instituted and what has been the number of convictions up to the end of November?

    As regards the first part of the question I would refer the hon. and learned Member to the answer given by my hon. Friend the Parliamentary Secretary to the Board of Trade to the hon. Member for Aberdare on the 18th November. I am unable to give particulars of the number of complaints dealt with by local committees under classified trades. Reports for November have not yet been received from all local committees; the Reports received show that 1,935 cormplaints had been investigated up to the end of November, refunds being ordered or a price declared in 398cases. The particulars supplied by local committees do not enable me to give the total amount of the sums ordered to be refunded. Appeals against decisions of local committees have been lodged in seventy-one cases, of which number seven cases had been decided by the Appeal Tribunals on or before 30th November, the appeal being allowed in five cases. The cost incurred by the Board of Trade in administering the Profiteering Act, excluding stationery, rents and lighting, to the 30th November is estimated at, approximately, £4,500. Prosecutions have been ordered by local committees in eighty-two cases, of which twenty-eight had been decided by the end of November, convictions being obtained in twenty-four cases.

    Confectionery And Tobacco (Places Of Entertainment)

    asked the President of the Board of Trade if he will favourably consider the position of shopkeepers in regard to the request of proprietors of theatres, music-halls, and cinemas to sell confectionery after the closing hours im- posed on shopkeepers; is he aware that a great hardship will be inflicted on a most deserving class of shopkeepers, among whom are many ex-Service men and widows, if theatres, etc., are allowed to sell confectionery after they are compelled to close; and does he propose to take any action?

    My right hon. Friend has asked me to reply to this question. I am aware both of the difficulty which the present rules cause to theatre managers and of the hardship which its relaxation without proper safeguards might cause to shopkeepers. I have within the last few days invited the views of the retail confectioners' and theatrical managers' associations on certain proposals which will, I believe, meet the reasonable claims of both parties, and I hope that both will cooperate with me in promoting a satisfactory settlement.

    asked the Home Secretary whether he is aware that under Government regulations it is impossible to purchase either cigars, tobacco, or sweets after 8 p.m. in London theatres or music halls; whether he is aware of the number of visitors who use these places of amusement in Central London; and whether, now that peace has been signed some months, he can withdraw what was really issued as a war regulation?

    I would refer the hon. Member to the answer I have just given on this subject to the lion. Member for East Cardiff.

    Transport

    Traffic Congestion, London

    asked the Minister of Transport if he is aware of the state of traffic congestion existing in the West End to-day, which is not wholly due to roads being under repair; whether the holding up of the main arteries for the passage of cross traffic is left to the policemen or has it any coordinated policy which prompts it, and, if so, what is that policy; is he aware that south-going traffic along Park Lane is much retarded by the arbitrary closing of Hamilton Place for no apparent reason, arid what is the reason for this; why in that there is but one gate open at Hyde Park Corner only traffic going north should be allowed through it; is he aware that the new system of traffic regulation opposite the Houses of Parliament causes much congestion and waste of time, and will he take steps to revert to the old system; and will he take steps to appoint a committee to investigate the whole subject of street traffic with a view to advising him as to what action should be taken to get back at least to the former conditions?

    The first four parts of the question refer to the powers exercised by the police, and would be appropriately addressed to the Secretary of State for Home Affairs. As regards the last two parts, the alterations in traffic control in Parliament Square are being carried out on the recommendation of the Advisory Committee on London Traffic, and an improvement in general traffic facilities is anticipated as a result of this experiment, which is being carefully watched. All matters relating to traffic congestion in London are being considered by the expert Technical Committee of the Advisory Committee on London Traffic, and it is not thought necessary to appoint another committee.

    Parliament Square

    asked the Home Secretary by whose authority the traffic has been diverted to the south side of Parliament Square; if he is aware of the great inconvenience to Members caused thereby; and whether it is in contravention of the Sessional Orders of the House of Commons?

    I have been asked to reply to this question. The alterations in traffic control at Parliament Square are being carried out on the recommendation of the Advisory Committee on London traffic. It is realised that the change may cause temporary inconvenience to Members, but it is hoped that this will be accepted in view of the improvement in general traffic facilities which is anticipated as a result of the experiment.

    Surbiton Station

    asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he will urge the. London and South Western Railway to take immediate steps to obviate the danger arising from the crowding of the staircase at Surbiton station, and to do all that is possible to diminish the irregularity of the train service between Surbiton and Waterloo?

    I have been asked to answer this question. The company aro opening further means of access to the platform, and every effort is being made to improve the service.

    Irish Live Stock

    asked the Minister of Transport whether his attention has been drawn to the shortage of wagons at Holyhead and other centres for the conveyance of Irish cattle to their places of destination; whether as a result live stock in large numbers is being held up for days at these places, to the great inconvenience and loss of the owners; and whether he will take prompt action to provide adequate transport facilities for the speedy conveyance of live stock to their destination?

    I am informed that slight difficulties have occurred recently in the supply of cattle wagons. The difficulty, however, has not been so much a shortage of wagons as in getting the vehicles to Holyhead, caused through fog and the irregular supply of power. It should be borne in mind that live stock is subject to being quarantined in lairages for a period of ten hours after arrival at Holyhead, but every effort is made to deal with the traffic as promptly as possible. I am making inquiries with regard to the other centres.

    Rifle Clubs (Cheap Railway Tickets)

    asked the Minister of Transport whether arrangements can now be made by the associated railway companies to restore to bond fide members of rifle clubs officially recognised by the National Rifle Association the pre-war privilege of return tickets at single tare when proceeding to Bisley for rifle practice?

    I regret that in the present financial position it is not possible to make any exceptional issue of cheap tickets in favour of the members of particular associations.

    Tramcars, Stamford Hill

    asked the Minister of Transport if he will direct through running of tramcars at Stamford Hill over the systems of the London County Council and the Middlesex County Council?

    The matter is receiving the attention of the Ministry of Transport and the undertakers concerned. Some difficulty arises from there being two distinct systems of electrical traction involved. No conclusion has yet been arrived at.

    Gattie Inquiry (Report)

    asked the Minister of Transport if the Gattie Inquiry Report will be issued before the Christmas adjournment?

    This Report has now been presented to Parliament, and will, I hope, be available for Members to-morrow.

    Phosphate

    asked the Minister of Transport if be is aware that a consignment of 1,000 tons of phosphate belonging to Messrs. Prentice Brothers, Limited, Chemical works, Stowmarket, is lying in the ss. "Globe" in the Thames; that the Great Eastern Railway Company, upon which the town depends for transport, refuses to deliver the consignment; that unless immediate delivery can be made the works will be compelled to close, with the result that a number of people will be unemployed; and if he will take action in the matter?

    I am informed that the Great Eastern Railway Company will accept and forward the traffic as soon as the barges get alongside their depot.

    Post Office

    Telephone Service

    asked the Postmaster-General on what grounds he refuses to inform telephone subscribers as to the state of their accounts when demanding payments of further deposits in respect of calls, especially having regard to his statement that no charges are ever made for ineffective calls; and if he will say what additional expense would thereby be occasioned to the State, seeing that the information required must already have been ascertained by the Telephone Department before the demand for payment of a further deposit could be made?

    Subscribers are asked for additional prepayments hi respect of local telephone calls on estimates of their probable user during the next quarter of the rental year. Any additional information required by subscribers is furnished on request, but inquiries are not numerous, and I do not think that the considerable amount of work involved in furnishing in advance a full statement of account with each request for a further payment would be justified, although it would be difficult without experience to state the full cost of such an arrangement. I am, however, considering whether any additional information likely to be useful to subscribers could be given without disproportionate expense, and I will write to the hon. Member on the subject.

    Engineering Department (Draughtsmen)

    asked the Postmaster General (1) whether seeing that Post Office engineers are not giving to the public efficient service owing to the impossibility of retaining qualified draughtsmen at the rate of pay and prospects offered by the Department, he will state what steps he proposes to take to remedy this state of affairs;(2) whether a large number of the draughtsmen in the Engineering Department of the Post Office are leaving the Department's service owing to the inadequacy of the pay and prospects offered and many of those remaining are contemplating taking the same steps?

    The pay and conditions of service of draughtsmen in the Engineering Department of the Post Office are under consideration in connection with representations from the Society of Post Office Engineering Draughtsmen, and a deputation from the society was received on Friday last. There have been twenty-one resignations of draughtsmen during the past eighteen months out of a total staff of 260.

    Royal Engineers Signal Section

    asked the Post master-General whether the non-commissioned officers and men who are employed at General Headquarters, Great Britain. have been in receipt of full Post Office pay as volunteers since the date on which they became demobilisable; what is the total of such payments to his Department and what is the total additional cost incurred in substituting these men whilst they are absent from their civilian employment, and whether, in view of the great possibilities of economy, he will recommend to the military authorities that a civilian staff should be re-employed at this office, as is the case at the War Office and the Admiralty?

    Post Office servants in the Royal Engineers Signal Section whose demobilisation is deferred at the instance of the Army authorities to a date not later than the 30th April, 1920, remain under the same conditions as those in force during the War, i.e., they draw full civil pay (but not war bonus) in addition to military pay. The manner in which such men are distributed is entirely a question for the War Office, and I have no knowledge of the number employed at General Headquarters.

    asked the Financial Secretary to the Treasury whether, in view of the fact that the members of the Post Office staff who served in special sections of the Royal Engineers as signallers did not during their service receive full civil pay, inasmuch as the war bonuses paid as part of civil pay were not paid to them, these men will receive the full war gratuity, not only the much smaller service gratuity?

    I am not prepared to make the particular concession proposed. But the Treasury are ready to adopt certain measures which I hope will afford a satisfactory settlement of any cases of genuine hardship owing to the previous Government decision. Time is required, however, to work out the details of application in consultation with the Post Office and War Office, and I must therefore ask my Noble Friend to allow me to defer making a full announcement for the moment.

    Postal Facilities, Aberavon

    asked the Postmaster-General whether he has arrived at any decision as to the improvement of the postal facilities at Aberavon; and whether the borough will now be relieved of the necessity of contributing towards the expenses of the postal service?

    This matter is being actively pursued, and I will communicate further with the hon. Member when a decision has been reached.

    Shetland Mails

    asked the Postmaster General whether he is aware of the un- satisfactory delivery of mails to Fair Island and Skerries, Shetland, and that it is impossible for the North of Scotland Steamship Company to drop mails as it did prior to the War; and if he will take into consideration the advisability of calling for tenders for a mail service from Scalloway, calling at some other places south, to Fair Island, thence to Sandwich and Lerwick, with a mail once a week to Skerries?

    The North of Scotland Steamship Company have never called at Fair Isle. They convey mails to and from the Sherries once a fortnight during the winter. There is very little postal traffic either with Fair Isle or with the Skerries. In both cases the existing postal service entails a heavy loss, and my right hon. Friend cannot incur further expense out of Post Office funds to provide more frequent steamer communication.

    New York And London Mails

    asked the Postmaster General whether there is great delay in the transmission of mails from New York to London; and whether he can hold out the hope that the service will shortly be expedited?

    I am aware that the time of transit of mails from New York to London is considerably greater than before the War. The period of transmission of the mails received during the last four weeks average twelve days; but the average time would have been less had it not been for the dock strike at New York. The United States Post Office is using all the steamers which offer advantage for the conveyance of mails to this country, but an improvement in the service may be expected as all the faster steamers resume their sailings.

    Postal Servant (Service In Agricul Tural Company)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether a postal servant who, while in the Army, has been compulsorily transferred from the Infantry to an agricultural company of the Labour Corps can count his service in the agricultural company towards pension?

    The point is one of considerable difficulty, because while serving in the agricultural company the soldier would often be drawing pay from private sources, i.e., from the farmer who employed him on the land, and not from the State. I am, however, causing further inquiry to be made into the position of these men, in consultation with the other Departments concerned, and will communicate the result to my hon. and gallant Friend at a later date.

    Wages Awards

    asked the Minister of Labour whether he can state the trades to which wages awards have been extended to cover the whole of the trades for which a request has been made; and whether he can give a decision in the cases under his consideration on the 13th August last?

    I have made fifteen orders extending wages awards or agreements to cover the whole of the particular industry concerned. With the hon. Member's permission, I will send him a statement of these orders. I am not sure what cases the hon. Member has in mind in the last part of his question, but the decision on all requests which have been made for such orders has been duly communicated to the persons by whom the request was made. The power to make these orders has now been withdrawn by the lapse of the Wages (Temporary Regulation) Act, 1918, and it is impossible to consider the making of further orders.

    Hours Of Employment Bill (Gardeners)

    asked the Minister of Labour if consideration is being given to representations from gardeners in relation to the proposed Hours of Labour Bill; and what 'are the intentions of the Government in that matter?

    I have received repreaentations from organisations representing gardeners, on the subject of their inclusion within the Hours of Employment Bill. The question will have to be considered in relation to the general position of land workers under the Bill.

    Ex-Service Men (Training)

    asked the Minister of Labour whether the machinery for the training of ex-Service men has broken down; if not, whether he can say how many ex-Service men have been accepted for training since the administration was transferred from the Ministry of Pensions to his Department, how many of these men have taken their first step in training, and how many of these men from Bermondsey have been able to secure training since such transfer; and whether he is aware that the desire for training among such men is being effectually killed by the paralysis of the training Department?

    The reply to the first part of the question is in the negative; to the second part that, while it is impossible to give retrospective figures relating to particular districts, as regards London as a whole the number of men in training has already been doubled since training was transferred to the Ministry of Labour, and to the third part, that while. I fully recognise the disappointment and irritation caused by delay, the size of the existing waiting lists which it is hoped soon materially to reduce, do not bear out the apprehensions of the hon. Member.

    asked the Minister of Labour why Private James Smith, No. 201497 1/6th Battalion Black Watch, who enlisted under the Derby scheme in November, 1915, and served throughout the War and was granted a subsistence allowance of £10 per month, to be paid monthly from and after 6th October, 1919, to enable him to study for the qualifying examination of the Pharmaceutical Society, the said grant only being given on the undertaking that he resigned from his then employment, has never received any payment of the said grant?

    Payment of the grant awarded to Private James Smith has been delayed pending the receipt of the certificate of his attendance at the Glasgow School of Pharmacy. I understand that the matter is now in order, and that a payment in respect of maintenance is being made to-day.

    asked the Minister of Labour why the Grants promised to seven ex-Service forestry students in the University College of North Wales, at Bangor, are withheld; and if he is aware that five of these students have been at the college since January last, and that one has had to leave the university on account of the non-payment of the Grant due?

    I am informed that, out of seven applications for training Grants from ex-Service forestry students at Bangor, six have been granted within the last month, and that payments on account have been made in each case. Further payments will be made in due course on receipt of the usual certificates of attendance from the university authorities. I regret to find that decisions in some of these cases have been delayed by causes which I have not yet had time to investigate; but directions have been given for the grants to be made retrospective to the commencement of training whenever this is possible under the Regulations. The seventh application was only put in on the 4th November. In this case a decision had to be postponed for certain supplementary information; but it will be finally dealt with at an early date. I am not aware that any of the seven men has had to leave the university on account of non-payment of a grant, but if the hon. Member will give me particulars I will make inquiries.

    Dressmaking Industry (Minimum Wages)

    asked the Minister of Labour whether minimum rates of wages are fixed for employés in the dressmaking industry; and whether these rates are binding upon milliners who employ assistants and apprentices

    Minimum rates of wages have been fixed for women employés in the dressmaking industry. I will send the hon. Member a copy of the Order dealing with this matter. These rates do not affect millinery work except infants' millinery. A Trade Board for the hat, cap and millinery trade has been established and will meet early in January.

    Unemployment

    Ex-Service Men

    asked the Minister of Labour what are the causes which have led to such large numbers of disabled and other ex-Service men being out of employment in Liverpool and other parts of the Kingdom; and what further steps can be taken to assist these men to obtain employment?

    Unemployment among disabled men and ex-Service men is due to a variety of causes, some common to all classes of the unemployed, others peculiar to ex-Service men and in particular to disabled men. Of the former the principal are lack of the requisite skill or experience for the particular work available in the immediate locality, the dearth of housing accommodation which militates against mobility of labour and to some extent the competition of women for work which before the War would normally have been done by men. Among the latter I may instance the inherent disadvantage which many disabled men suffer in competition with the able bodied insufficient appreciation among employers of the capabilities of disabled men, and the difficulties which certain trade unions have placed in the way of the admission of ex-Service men into skilled trades. I am afraid I ought to add that, owing to the continuance of out-of-work donation for ex-Service men, some of these men are not so keen on accepting irksome work as they otherwise would be. I hope I need not assure the hon. Member that the Employment Exchanges in conjunction with the Local Employment Committees are making continuous exertions on behalf of ex-Service men who desire work. The national scheme is being pressed forward, with satisfactory results; and every effort is being, and will be, made to remove the causes conducing to unemployment among ex-Service men, so far as it lies in the power of the Ministry of Labour to do so.

    Tin Mining Industry, Cornwall

    asked the Minister of Labour who are the persons composing the Whitley Council for the tin-mining industry of Cornwall; whether the question of miners' wages and the conditions of tribute work and contract work in tin mines has been considered by the council; whether any agreement has been arrived at; whether employers as a body in this industry have refused to submit to arbitration with respect to claims for increased wages; if so, what are the grounds of such refusal; whether employers as a body have published any reasons setting forth the grounds upon which it is considered impossible to advance wages in this industry; what was the date of such refusal; what were the prices of block tin and block metal at the time of such refusal; and what are the prices at the present moment?

    The names of the officers and members of the Joint Industrial Council for the Tin Mining Industry are as follows:

    • Chairman. — C. A. Moreing, Messrs. Bewick, Moreing and Company, 62, London Wall, E.C. 2.
    • Vice-Chairman.—J. Harris, Courtenay Chambers, Courtenay Street, Plymouth.
    • Secretary.—J. A. Stephens, Treruffe Hill, Redruth.
    • Employers' representatives, Tin-mining Employers' Federation.—O. Wethered, J Faull, R. A. Thomas, T. Negus, J. Paull, J. Wickett, J. Gilbert, A. Richards, M. T. Taylor, Major F.
    • Oats, C. V. Thomas, W. J. Hocking, T. E. Bennett, J V. Thomas, C. A. Moreing.
    • Workers' representatives, Workers' Union.—J. H. Tresise, J. H. Bennetts, W. Uglow, J. H. Craze, W. J. Crowley, T. W. Watters, J Harris.
    • The Dock, Wharf, Riverside and General Workers' Union.—D. Hillman, A. Wilkens, H. Hocking, J. R. Rowe, T. 0. Bore, A. E. Jackett.
    • Craft Unions.—One representative.
    The wages questions referred to by my hon. Friend have been discussed by the Council. It would, however, be premature to make any statement in respect of the position pending the results of the inquiry into the industry now being undertaken by the Board of Trade. I should, however, state that as far as I am aware the employers have not refused arbitration.

    asked the Minister of Labour whether he is aware that his statement that the wages of tin-miners at Levant Mine, Cornwall, averaged between 10s. and 11s. per day has been received with considerable dissatisfaction, and those engaged allege that the actual earnings of tin-miners at this mine and other mines in Cornwall are only from £8 to £9 per month; and whether, in this connection, he will arrange for a monthly return of shifts worked, wages earned, and total number employed to be printed each month in the "Labour Gazette," and make the return applicable to all the important non-ferrous metal-mining industries, showing the position of the Cornwall tin- miners, the lead-miners of Derby, Durham, and Scotland, the zinc-miners of Northumberland and Durham, those engaged in mining barytes in Shropshire, and the oil shale-miners where mining operations are conducted?

    I have made inquiry and have verified the accuracy of the statement made in my reply of 10th December, namely, that the approximate average wage of the tin-miners employed in the Levant Mine for the four weeks preceding the accident was at the rate of from 10s. to 11s. per day per man. In other mines the earnings are understood to vary considerably according to the particular occupation in which the men are engaged and the methods by which they are paid. Some information as to the state of employment at tin, lead, and shale mines is already collected and published regularly in the "Labour Gazette." I will consider whether it may be possible to arrange for the publication of more detailed information.

    Gravesend Sea School

    asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Shipping Controller whether the organisation committee of the Gravesend Sea School keeps in touch with the ex-pupils of the school; whether he can give the number and percentage of the ex-pupils who have not continued to serve in the capacity for which they were trained; and whether he can say how many ex-pupils are, in fact, at present unemployed?

    Arrangements are in force which provide for a visit on behalf of the organisation committee to every ex-pupil of the Gravesend Sea School, on the arrival of his ship at a port in the United Kingdom, with a view to his welfare. It is not possible at this stage to give any reliable figures showing how many ex-pupils have continued to serve in the capacity for which they were trained. So far as is known, none have left the sea service permanently, but, as in the case of other seamen engaged by the voyage, they are in some cases subject to intervals of non-employment between the voyages of their vessels.

    Animal Testing Stations

    asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Board of Agricul- ture if he is aware that the new arrangement for testing animals destined for South Africa, at the Pirbright station, are highly unsatisfactory, owing to the delay and difficulty of subsequent shipping, and that Pirbright cannot take any more animals till the end of January next; will he, under these circumstances, invite the South African Government to consider the adoption of the principle followed in this country by the United States Government of appointing their own official veterinary surgeons for testing animals in any part of the country; and, failing this suggestion, will he consider the establishment of three other testing stations in Britain to facilitate this valuable trade?

    Delays which may occur at Pirbright station are due in part to alterations in the dates of sailings of transports, and not to the testing arrangements made by the Board. The Board would be quite willing that the South African Government should adopt the principle followed by the United States Government and appoint their own veterinary surgeons for testing animals in any part of this country, and they have asked representatives of the Government of South Africa in this country to receive a deputation, but they feel bound to state that the basis of South Africa's desire for a testing station is that the animals for export to South Africa must not be tested on premises which belong to the owner. The Board are actively engaged in trying to find other suitable premises to enable them to deal with the volume of trade with South Africa, which has suddenly arisen, and there is good hope of such premises being found.

    Bee Disease

    asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Board of Agriculture if he is aware of the severe losses suffered by smallholders owing to the ravages of bee disease; and what steps the Board is taking to assist bee keepers to combat this pest?

    The Board are aware that British bee keepers have during recent years suffered severe losses owing to the prevalence of disease, and particularly Isle of Wight disease, among bees. With the object of preventing these losses by the discovery of means of combating disease, the Board have established an institute for the study of bees and bee diseases, and at the present time investigations are being carried out both at Oxford and at Cambridge. The Board have, moreover, as a result of inquiries which they made during 1918, satisfied themselves that hybrid bees of Italian and Dutch origin possess a marked resistance to Isle of Wight Disease, and they have accordingly, and with the co-operation of county committees, introduced a Bee Restocking Scheme to establish breeding apiaries for the production of resistant hybrids. In accordance with this scheme they have introduced Dutch stocks and Italian queens, and supplied them at reduced prices to the Committee for bleeding purposes. The scheme is developing satisfactorily, and during 1919, 1,171 hybrid nuclei have been raised from 251 stocks. It is proposed to continue the production of nuclei in the coming year, and it is expected that it will result in the establishment of large numbers of resistant bees. To ensure this result the Board hope to provide for further importation of Italian queens during 1920. The question of introducing legislation with the object of stamping out bee diseases is now under the consideration of the Board.

    Scotland

    Small Holdings

    asked the Secretary for Scotland whether, seeing that the acquisition by the Scottish Board of Agriculture of land at Gretna for small holdings has been delayed for many months, mainly because the Departments concerned have not agreed upon the price at which the land shall be transferred from one Department to the other, he will take steps to have the price fixed before the beginning of next Session?

    The Board of Agriculture are in communication with the Treasury in the matter, and I hope it may be possible to reach an agreement before the beginning of next Session.

    asked the Secretary for Scotland whether the Scottish Board of Agriculture have now decided to acquire the farms of Hartwood and Thorniethwaite, near Lochmaben, seeing that the situation of these farms is most suitable for small holdings, and that an expert's report has been furnished to the Board, which states that three-fourths of the land is cultivable?

    I am informed that a report of the nature indicated has been sent to the Board by the Dumfries-shire War Pensions Committee. The question of acquiring the property is at present under consideration. The matter is not free from difficulty, and the Board have not yet reached a decision.

    asked the Secretary for Scotland whether he can state the total amount by which rents have been reduced under the Small Holdings (Scotland) Act of 1911 since it came into operation, and what has been the total cost of the administration of the Act?

    In reply to my hon. Friend, the total reduction of fair rents, revelations and equitable rents in cases disposed of by the Scottish Land Court from the 1st April, 1912, to the 31st December, 1918, is £11,231. The expenses of administration of the Land Court for the period from 1st April, 1912, to 31st March, 1919, were£46,688, exclusive of the salaries of the members of the Land Court, which are charged to the Consolidated Fund. In stating these figures, I should point out that the work of the Land Court includes a great variety of proceedings of which the fixing of rents is only one branch, and that it would be quite fallacious to draw any comparison between the two totals which I have quoted.

    Glasgow University (Professor Becker)

    asked the Secretary for Scotland for what period Professor Becker has drawn his salary as professor of astronomy at Glasgow University whilst actually resident in Germany; whether he is still drawing such salary; whether any deductions were made from it to pay the deputy who was appointed in his place; if not, from what funds the deputy was paid; whether he is aware that the deputy has now retired and that no teaching in astronomy is now being given; and what steps he proposed to take, or has taken, in the matter?

    Professor Becker has not been resident in Germany while on leave of absence, and the first part of the question does not therefore arise. The answer to the second part is in the affirmative, and to the third part in the negative. I am informed that the arrangements for the instruction of students referred to in my reply of 11th ultimo to the hon. Member for Forfar are still in force, and that the lecturers are paid from the fees and general University fund like other lecturers.

    Austria-Hungary (Debts Due To British Subjects)

    asked the Under-Secretary Of State for Foreign Affairs whether any method has been devised by which debts of British citizens owing by former Austro-Hungarian subjects can be collected, other than by private negotiations; and, if so, by what method?

    Debts due to British subjects by former Austrian subjects, who under the Treaty of Peace become nationals of Allied States, can only be collected by private negotiation. With regard to debts due by persons who remain Austrians, I would refer the hon. Member to the replies given by my right hon. Friend the President of the Board of Trade to the hon. Member for Lincoln on the 27th October and the 20th November. The collection of debts due to British subjects by Hungarian nationals is a matter which depends upon the terms of the Treaty with Hungary, with regard to which no information can at present be given.

    Clifton Downs Hotel, Bristol

    asked the First Commissioner of Works whether the Clifton Downs Hotel, the largest hotel in Bristol, has been purchased by the Government for the pensions regional headquarters; and whether these offices at Bristol are now undergoing expensive alterations?

    The hotel in question which was vacant was requisitioned by my Department in August last in order to provide accommodation for the regional headquarters staff of the Ministry of Pensions. No other accommodation of sufficient size was available. An expenditure of about £2,500 will be incurred in adapting the premises to the requirements of the staff of the Ministry.

    House Of Commons (Lighting)

    asked the First Commissioner of Works whether he is aware of the feeling amongst a large number of Members that the present poor lighting of the Debating Chamber, Lobbies, and Committee Rooms should be remedied before next Session commences; and whether be will take steps in this direction?

    Experiments with a view to improving the lighting of the Chamber will be made during the Recess, and steps will be taken to endeavour to improve the lighting of the Committee Rooms and Lobbies.

    State Printing Works

    asked the First Commissioner of Works whether it is still intended to establish State printing works; and, in that case, what will be the staff and the anuual estimated cost?

    The answer to the first part of the question is in the affirmative. Until the scheme is further developed, it is impossible to say what the staff or its annual cost will be ultimately.