Written Answers
Police Widows' Pensions
asked the Home Secretary whether, under the powers conferred upon him by Section 4 of the Police Act, 1919, he proposes to take any steps to make a Regulation by which widows of constables who retired before 1st September, 1918, should receive an increase of pension?
Any such change in the law regarding police widows' pensions could only be effected by legislation; I have no power to do so.
Historical Manuscripts Commission (Reports)
asked the Home Secretary when the Historical Manuscripts Commission intend to resume publication of their Reports; when the Calendars of Domestic State Papers are to be published again; and when publication of the Rolls series will recommence?
I am informed that of the Historical Manuscripts Commission Reports there are ten volumes in the press. They will be issued when ready. Four volumes of calendars of Domestic State Papers are in the press. The dates of publication depend mainly on the printers. The Rolls Series has, I understand, been in abeyance since 1911.
Metropolitan Boroughs (Police Rate)
asked the Home Secretary if all the Metropolitan boroughs have now paid the police rate?
The answer is in the affirmative.
Walsall Magistrates (Girl's Sentence)
asked the Home Secretary whether his attention has been drawn to the case of Elizabeth Micklewright, who was sentenced at the Walsall Guildhall to six months' imprisonment for failing to observe the conditions of her recognisances; whether he is aware that this young girl is only 17 years of age; and whether he will have inquiries made into this case, with a view to remission of some part of the sentence?
My right hon. Friend has made inquiry with regard to this case. The girl pleaded guilty to larceny and was put on probation, but failed to obey the conditions and was doing no work and was obviously falling into evil courses. In these circumstances the Justices passed a sentence of six months for her original offence in order that she might receive the modified Borstal training now given in prison: and, as the Prison Authorities are satisfied her best chance is to continue such training, I cannot advise any remission.
Ireland
Criminal Lunatic Asylum, Dundrum (Pay And War Bonus)
asked the Chief Secretary for Ireland whether the Treasury have granted to the staff of the Criminal Lunatic Asylum, Dundrum, county Dublin, the same rates of pay and war bonus as are in force in the English criminal lunatic asylums as from the 18th September, 1918; whether any of this increased rate of pay and war bonus has been paid to the staff; and, if not, will he take immediate steps to have this amount of arrears made up?
The Treasury have recently granted to the staff of the Criminal Lunatic Asylum, Dundrum, the same rates of pay and war bonus as are in force in the English criminal lunatic asylums as from the 18th September, 1918. None of the increased rates of pay or war bonus have yet been paid to the staff, as the details regarding the application of the new scales of pay are being settled. It is anticipated, however, that the arrears will be fully paid up by the end of the present month.
National Health Insurance (Amendment) Bill
asked the Minister of Health whether the National Health Insurance (Amendment) Bill is to be applied to Ireland?
The answer is in the affirmative.
Scotland
Small Holdings (Sales)
asked the Secretary for Scotland if steps are being taken to force crofters to buy their crofts and threatened, if they do not do so, that they will be sold over their heads?
Cases have come under my notice in which small holdings held under the Statutory tenure of the Small Landholders Acts have been offered for sale. There is nothing in law to prevent such transactions. But the occupiers of such holdings are protected by the Landholders Acts, for the purchaser cannot enter into personal occupation of the holding unless he obtains an Order from the Land Court authorising resumption of the land for that purpose.
Summer Grazings, Gretna
asked the Secretary for Scotland whether upwards of 1,400 acres of land in the neighbourhood of Gretna and belonging to the State have been advertised for summer grazing; if so, whether this has been done by agreement with the Scottish Board of Agriculture; whether it will delay the establishment of small holdings upon the land so let until next year, as no steps in this direction can be taken until November, 1920; and whether, in view of the large demand for small holdings in the vicinity of Gretna, he will make special arrangements with the graziers so that the land can be resumed when required?
I have been asked to reply. The 1,400 acres of summer grazing advertised are within the factory fence at Gretna, and are in any case therefore excluded from any land offered to the Scottish Board of Agriculture. Such letting will not in any way delay the establishment of small holdings upon the land available at Gretna, the land over which the grazings are to be let being retained by the Ministry of Munitions, and excluded from any suggested sale to the Scottish Board of Agriculture.
Transport
Coastal Traffic (England And Scotland)
asked the Secretary for Scotland whether the service of coastal steamers between England and Scotland has been much reduced since the War; if vessels in ports in Scotland or England suffer undue delay in discharging cargoes; whether he can state, after consultation with the Ministry of Shipping, what number of voyages ships engaged in a regular service can undertake in one month at the present time compared with the time occupied before the War; and if ho can give the reasons for this falling off in efficiency?
I have been asked to reply. Assuming that the question refers to general cargo liners, the coastal tonnage engaged on the services between England and Scotland has beer reduced during but not since the War, this being accounted for by steamers sunk owing to enemy action which have not yet been replaced. With regard to the voyages now undertaken compared with time occupied before the War, it is not possible to give any exact statement, but it is estimated that the loss of efficiency is in the neighbourhood of 30 per cent., the reason being delay in ports.
asked the Secretary for Scotland whether, in consultation with the Board of Trade, he can give the figures of tons of general cargo carried in vessels sailing between Scottish and English ports in the month of January, 1913, 1914, 1918, 1919, and 1920; whether representations have been made to him for the need to encourage sea-borne transport; and what, besides the shortage of tonnage, are the causes that at present restrict this trade?
I have been asked to reply. No statistics are available which show the tons weight of cargo carried coastwise or which distinguish the trade between England and Scotland from the general coasting trade. The desirability of increasing sea-borne transport is fully appreciated by the Government, and in August last the Government Coastal Subsidy Scheme was introduced with a view to encouraging traders to make all possible use of coastal transit. So far as can be seen, there is no greater falling off in the coastal traffic between England and Scotland, than in the coastal trade generally, and the main causes of this falling-off have been dealt with in the reply to the previous question.
asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Shipping what tonnage is at present engaged in regular sailings between English and Scottish ports; and how does that figure compare with that of 1913–18?
Returns of tonnage engaged on regular coasting lines are not now procured by the Shipping Controller from the companies maintaining the services. I regret, therefore, that exact figures are not available. The tonnage is less than that engaged in 1913 14 owing to losses arising out of the War, which have not yet been replaced.
Channel Islands (Granite Cargoes)
asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Shipping if his attention has been called to the difficulty that Walthamstow and other Metropolitan borough and urban councils are experiencing in obtaining granite kerb and other granite from the Channel Islands for public work, owing to the contractors being unable to secure suitable steamers in consequence of the abnormal rates of freightage now obtainable for the transport of other material; whether the present freightage for coal cargoes from Newcastle-on-Tyne to Northern France and South of England ports is from 50s. to 55s. per ton, and that while such rates are obtainable steamship owners are refusing to accept stone cargoes at the rates offered by the quarry owners; if he is aware that steamers, after discharging coal cargoes at Guernsey, leave in ballast rather than take granite as heretofore; and if he will take steps to request steamship owners to accept granite cargoes from Guernsey at such rates as will enable local authorities to maintain their public highways which, in many cases, are badly in need of repair?
I would refer the hon. Member to the reply given on March 1st to the hon. Member for Islington East (Mr. Raper). The Shipping Controller is aware of the difficulty which has been experienced in getting granite shipped, and has been able to arrange for some suitable steamers to load stone from Guernsey.
Wagons
asked the Minister of Transport how many orders for wagons have been placed by the Great Western Railway Company with private firms this year; what are the prices at which such orders have been placed; and whether such orders were placed with the approval of the Ministry of Transport?
Since 1st January orders have been placed by the Great Western Railway Company with the approval of the Ministry of Transport, for the construction of 700 open goods wagons. I think my hon. Friend will realise that there are objections to stating publicly the prices at which commercial contracts are placed.
asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Munitions how many railway, wagons have been delivered by Woolwich Arsenal to the North Eastern Railway Company and the Great Western Railway Company, respectively; and what is the cost of such wagons?
Delivery of 19 wagons has been made to the North Eastern Railway Company, but none of the Great Western Railway type have yet been completed. The wagons for the North Eastern Railway are being manufactured at a price of £170, certain materials and components being supplied by the company. The price agreed upon for the Great Western wagons is £297.
Commercial Travellers (Cloak Room Fee)
asked the Minister of Transport whether, seeing that the work of commercial travellers is such that they are continuously using the railways in the interests of the general trade of the country, that such trade adds enormously to the carriage of goods and increases considerably the revenue of the railways, and in view of the fact that they cannot be regarded as ordinary members of the travelling public, ho will reconsider the decision which increases the charge for the deposit of their luggage in railway cloak rooms; and, if not, is it intended to increase such charges to the other users of railway cloak rooms?
I would refer the hon. Member to the answer given to a similar question by the hon. Member for Nottingham East (Sir J. D. Rees) on the 18th February. As then stated, the withdrawal of the 1d. cloakroom fee is not confined to commercial travellers, but applies to all classes of travellers. The minimum charge of 2d. was imposed on the recommendation of the Rates Advisory Committee.
Food Supplies
Potatoes
asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Agriculture if he is aware that allotment holders did not last season grow' as many potatoes as during the War; if they are this season proposing to devote still less land to potato culture; if the need of potatoes and food is likely to be very great this year; and if an Order or condition can be made on allotment holders that they must devote at least one-half of their land to the growing of potatoes for this season?
The Ministry are aware that the potato crop for 1919 was smaller than that of 1918, but there is no indication that allotment holders are likely to plant a less area with potatoes this year than in 1919. An increase in the area under the potato crop in 1920 is desirable, but an Order such as that suggested would, if introduced at this late date, impose serious inconvenience and some hardship on allotment holders who have, in most cases, made arrangements for the season's cropping.
asked the Minister of Food what steps, if any, have been taken by the Ministry of Food to prevent profiteering in potatoes during the coming season?
As I have already stated, it is proposed to issue immediately an Order proscribing maximum prices for potatoes of the 1919 crop.
Cattle (Guaranteed Prices)
asked the Prime Minister whether he is aware that when a farmer sells a heifer for which he receives £30 16s. 4d., the Minister of Food adds a charge of £6 9s. 9d. before the animal reaches the butcher; and whether the Government will reconsider this charge with a view to cheapening the food of the people?
I have been asked to reply. As the Noble Lord has not stated the weight or grade of the animal referred to, it has been impossible to check the accuracy of his calculation. As I have frequently explained, the charges added by the Ministry of Food to the price paid to the farmer for cattle are required to cover the various expenses in connection with the conversion of live-stock into dead meat. These expenses include railage from the farm to the market and thence to the butcher, grading, lairage, and feeding charges, auctioncer's commission, market tolls, weighing and slaughtering charges, insurance against tuberculosis in the case of certain grades of rattle, together with the general expenses of administration. This procedure is an essential part of the scheme for the control of live stock, and cannot therefore be discontinued so long as guaranteed prices for cattle remain in operation.
Bacon
asked the Minister of Food whether he has recently received from the Scottish Federation of Master Grocers detailed tables showing the conditions under which Scottish retailers are selling bacon at the present time; whether a reply was sent to the effect that the existing system accorded a fair profit; whether he is aware that in many cases Scottish retailers are compelled to sell this commodity at a loss and in other cases under conditions which penalise the poorer consumers in different localities, and that this is the cause of widespread dissatisfaction among retailers and their customers; and whether, having regard to these facts, he will accept the detailed evidence submitted by the Federation and fix a fair price for this article?
The answer to the first part of the question is in the affirmative. The tables in question are being examined and a reply was recently sent to the Federation to the effect that so far as the investigation had then proceeded the existing system appeared to afford a fair profit to Scottish retailers. The investigation has now been practically completed, and I propose to send an official to Scotland at an early date in order that he may discuss the situation in the light of its results.
Mutton, Imported
asked the Minister of Food when it is proposed to intro-duce a new Schedule reducing the prices of mutton, in consideration of the stocks now under Government control?
A revised Schedule of wholesale and retail prices for imported mutton will come into operation on Monday, 15th March.
Munitions
Accidents (Compensation)
asked the Prime Minister whether he is aware that many men engaged on dangerous work in connection with munitions during the war suflered grievous injuries as a result of explosions or were killed, leaving dependants; that the compensation in these cases is only on the scale laid down under the Workmen's Compensation Acts; and whether, in view of the dangerous work for which these men volunteered, he will arrange for them or their dependants being paid compensation on the same scale as that for soldiers and their dependants?
I cannot admit that the cases of men who are killed or suffer injury in the course of a peaceful occupation should be dealt with in the matter of compensation under the special rules prescribed for the armed forces of the Crown.
Cippenham Motor Depot
asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Munitions when it is expected that the expenditure of money on the Cippenham motor depot on capital account will cease; what will be the capital cost of the depot when completed according to the present estimate; when any Report will be issued showing the financial results of the working of the depot; and what period the Report will cover?
Whilst the construction of the buildings is practically finished, the completion of the Cippenham Motor Depôt has been delayed by the moulders' strike. It is, however, anticipated that, provided deliveries of power plant are made according to promise, the expenditure on capital account will cease in about three months' time. The estimated capital cost, excluding land purchase which has not yet been determined, is £1,950,000. Accounts showing the financial results of the working of the depôt and covering the period from the beginning of repair operations at the depôt to the end of the present financial year will be completed about the end of June next.
Central Control Board (Liquor Traffic)
asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Munitions the number of bulk gallons of beer, spirits, and wines sold by retail by the Central Control Board (Liquor Traffic) in the city of Carlisle during the years 1917, 1918, and 1919, respectively; the average alcoholic strength of such liquors during each of the said years; the total sums received in respect of such retail sales of intoxicating liquors in each of the said years: and the estimated population resorting to licensed premises in the city of Carlisle during 1917, 1918, and 1919, respectively?
I regret I have nothing to add to the answer given to my hon. Friend on the 3rd March.
Government Contracts (State-Supported Firms)
asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Munitions if by the investing of State money and the appointments of directors to companies such as the British Cellulose Company, Limited, his Contracts Department will be induced to give preference to the placing of contracts to such firms; and has he any reason to apprehend unwillingness of other competitive firms to tender in opposition to such State-supported firms?
The answer to both parts of the question is in the negative.
asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Munitions the number of contractors to whom the Government have advanced money, as in the case of the British Cellulose and Chemical Manufacturing Company, Limited, for the purpose of ensuring an adequate supply of materials which were vitally necessary for war purposes; and in how many cases the Government have accepted shares in lieu of the security obtained, and in so doing relinquished securities in favour of other or future creditors?
The number of contractors to whom money was advanced for the purpose of the general supply of materials is approximately 350; but there are innumerable other cases where the Ministry advanced various sums for the purpose of financing particular contracts. In no cases other than the British Cellulose Company has the Ministry accepted shares in lieu of other security; but the Government, during the course of the War, have become shareholders in various other companies, such as the British Dye Stuffs Corporation, Ltd., the Anglo-Persian Oil Co., Ltd., and the British Potash Co., Ltd.
Gretna Factory (Staff)
asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Munitions what number of persons are now employed at Gretna factory; and how many of these are women and ex-service men?
The total staff employed at H.M. Factory, Gretna, is 1,074, of whom 156 are women and 318 ex-service men. Of the 156 women, 18 are engaged on technical work such as nursing, 63 on typing and routine clerical duties, and the remaining 75 are engaged on cleaning. The total of 318 ex-service men is equivalent to 35 per cent. of the total male employés.
Thorneycroft Lorries, Cologne (Sale Price)
asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Munitions whether, prior to the sale of the 666 Thorneycroft lorries at Cologne to Messrs. Maudsley Motor Company for £400 each, the Treasury had received an authenticated offer for the whole of the lorries at the Aachener and Bickendorf aerodromes, including these lorries, at an all-round price of £425 each; and why the Thorneycroft lorries were sold at a lower rate?
The price of £400 each, at which the 666 Thorneycroft lorries at Cologne were sold to Messrs. Maudsley Motor Company, was the highest offer received for these vehicles. The lorries were sold in situ, the purchasers bearing ail expenses in connection with removal, custody, transport, etc. An offer was received through the Société Commerciale Franco-Britannique to purchase 1,626, including the Thorneycroft lorries, at an average of £375 per lorry, delivered f.o.b. Antwerp. The price offered in this case was obviously too low, and could not be accepted. After the Thorneycroft lorries had been sold a communication was received from Mr. Gaunter, of Messrs. Baxter & Gaunter, a firm who state that the Société Commercial Franco-Britannique constitute a branch of theirs, covering an offer from Mr. Williams, of A. L. Williams & Co. This offer was to purchase the Thorneycroft lorries at £425 each on condition that the firm should be permitted to take the remainder of the lorries at Cologne at a valuation. The terms of this offer was unacceptable to the Board. I may add that information having reached the Disposal Board that Mr. Gaunter had offered presents and advantages, including a case of whisky, to members of its staff, it was decided to have no further dealings with the firm of Baxter & Gaunter.
Surplus Clotiitng
asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Munitions whether the present system of selling surplus Government stores of clothing in bulk renders it impossible for ex-service men to compete with the big dealers; whether the Prime Minister recently stated, when addressing deputations from ex-service men's organisations, that the Government was most anxious to help in every way; and whether, as a commencement, he is prepared to sell £500 of clothing to the headquarters of the Comrades of the Great War, £400 to their association in the North Riding of Yorkshire, and £100 to the Shropshire Comrades?
With regard to the first part of the question, I am unable to add anything to the answer which I gave to the hon. and gallant Member on the 25th february. The whole of the stocks of surplus clothing have now been sold.
War Medals (Manufacture)
asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the War Office how many millions of medals are required for ex-service men in connection with the European War; whether he can give the total number produced up to the end of February last and the weekly production at Woolwich Arsenal; and if, in view of the number of unemployed ex-service men in North London, he can see his way to utilise the Enfield Small Arms Factory for a similar purpose?
The total number of War medals required for award to serving and non-effective personnel of the Army is, approximately, 14,500,000. The last two parts of the question should be addressed to my hon. Friend the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Munitions.
British Cellulose Company
asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Munitions if he will give the name of the person or persons for whom they held in trust mortgages or debentures to the extent of £700,000 secured on the assets of the British Cellulose Company, Limited; if these mortgages of £700,000 have been cancelled; and, if so, if it is intended that these persons are to accept in lieu thereof 7½. per cent. preference shares?
The Ministry holds the £700,000 debentures in trust for two important companies, whose leave it would be necessary to obtain before their names could be given. I understand that these debentures, which amount to less than half the Government's own holding, will be paid out of the proceeds of the present issue.
Russia
British Military Mission
asked the Secretary of State for War if he will make a statement as to the present position of the anti-Soviet forces under General Denikin; and what steps have been taken to facilitate the safe withdrawal of the British military mission still with General Denikin?
The advance of the Soviet armies during the past four months has separated General Denikin's forces into three groups. The withdrawal of the left group is continuing slowly towards the Polish and Roumanian frontiers, the centre group is holding the approaches to the Crimea, to all appearance successfully, while the eastern group, after holding the Don and Manich Rivers successfully for a month, has now retired and is holding a line running roughly parallel to and just north of the railway from Rostov to Petrovsk. A disinclination to fight was recently shown by the Kuban Cossacks, but, on account of the atrocities committed by the Soviet armies on their families, they are now returning to the front, and Denikin's troops appear now to be fighting well along the whole front. The British Military Mission with General Denikin, which was independent under General Holman, has now been put under the command of General Sir George Milne, who has orders to bring the Mission away when he considers it necessary, and to take all requisite measures to secure its safety.
Marconi Wireless Telegraph Company (Russian Bolshevik Stations)
asked the Prime Minister whether the Marconi Wireless Telegraph Company, which at the beginning of last week accepted messages for transmission to Moscow, now decline to accept such messages; whether this is in consequence of the issue of instructions by the Government; and, if so, on what ground those instructions have been issued?
The Marconi Company for a long time past have been instructed to refrain from communicating with Russian Bolshevik stations except upon the instructions of a Government Department. The matter is at present under consideration by the Government.
Press Foreign Telegrams (Censorship)
asked the Prime Minister whether Press telegrams to the United Kingdom from foreign countries are still subject to censorship; whether, in particular, wireless messages recently sent by Mr. George Lansbury to the "Daily Herald" from Moscow have been subjected to censorship; and, if so, whether he will give instructions that this interference with the freedom of the Press shall cease forthwith?
The answer to the first and second parts of the question is in the negative. The last part docs not, therefore, arise.
Constantinople
asked the Prime Minister why, if the establishment of a free city was considered to be suitable in the case of Danzig, it was considered to be impracticable in the case of Constantinople?
There is, I think, no analogy between the two cases, and it is not possible for me, in answer to a question, to add anything to what was said in Debate on this subject.
Rating Assessments (Revaluation)
asked the Prime Minister whether, having regard to the change in values and circumstances brought about in consequence of the War and the desire of assessment authorities throughout the country to have a revaluation of pre-War assessments, the Government will furnish guidance to the assessment authorities who are faced with the difficulty that railways and collieries, both of which must be included in a revaluation, have been in Government control for some time and information usually obtainable from railway companies and colliery companies on which to form bases of assessment is in Government possession; whether ho will be prepared to lot the assessing authorities have such information in the same way as would have been done by the railway companies and colliery companies before the War; whether, having regard to the provisions of the Kent Restriction Acts, the Government will also issue their views on their effect on rateable value for the information of assessment authorities in dealing with the classes of property affected by such Acts; and whether, having regard to the fact that increased expenditure by local authorities would appear to be necessitated for some time to come, the Government will facilitate all measures which may be necessary to bring about a true valuation of hereditaments for the purpose of assessment?
The Government is of the opinion that, in view of the abnormal conditions which at present exist, any general revaluation is undesirable. With regard to the effect of the Rent Restriction Acts on Rateable Value, this is a question which must be decided by the Courts.
British Army
Chaplains (Pay)
asked the Secretary of State for War when it is expected that he will be able to announce the new rates of pay to Army chaplains?
The new scales of pay and pension have now been settled and the Royal Warrant embodying them is being prepared for issue.
Military Offences
asked the Secretary of State for War the number of soldiers who are still serving sentences of imprisonment or penal servitude inflicted by courts-martial for offences during the War and since the Armistice, respectively; and whether he can hold out any hope of a revision of such sentences?
As already stated, I am having figures prepared to show the number of men now undergoing penal servitude, imprisonment, or detention for military offences committed between the outbreak of War and the Armistice.With regard to the last part of the question, as I have previously explained, all such sentences have been, and are being, constantly reviewed. In this connection I would refer the hon. Member to my reply on the 10th December last to the hon. Member for Whitechapel (Mr. Kiley).
Desertions
asked the Secretary of State for War if he can now sec his way clear to release the military prisoners who deserted after the Armistice; and if he will consider whether the men have suffered sufficiently through being deprived of their gratuities?
I would refer the hon. Member to my reply on the 18th February to the hon. Member for Silver-town (Mr. J. Jones).
Prisoners Of War
asked the Secretary of State for War the number of men serving during the recent War who were made prisoners by the Turks; what percentage of these men have been reported dead or missing; and how that percentage compares with the men who were made prisoners of war by other enemy countries?
The numbers of Regular and Territorial Forces, Colonials, Royal Naval Division, and Indian natives, exclusive of officers, captured by the enemy, and the percentages of deaths are as follow:—
| Total number of men captured. | Percentage reported dead or still unaccounted for. |
| Turkey: | |
| 15,720 | 38·4 per cent. |
| Germany: | |
| 168,718 | 8·4 per cent. |
| Austria: | |
| 250 | 5·2 per cent. |
| Bulgaria: | |
| 1,238 | 10·01 per cent. |
Long Service Pension (Non-Commissioned Officer's Application)
asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the War Office whether G. H. Wright, C.S.M., No. 345,846, 32 Edgehill Road, Bournemouth, has been refused a service pension after having served 16 years 52 days continuously; and whether the refusal is in accordance with Regulations, this noncommissioned officer having been discharged as medically unfit for further service?
Company-Sergeant-Major Wright had loss than 18 years' service, and unless he has been awarded a permanent disablement pension on the lowest scale under the Ministry of Pension Warrant of 29th March, 191Y, he cannot be awarded a Long Service Pension by the Commissioners of the Royal Hospital, Chelsea, under Army Order 330 of 1918.
1915 Star
asked the Secretary of State for War whether he will reconsider the decision not to award the 1915 star to the dependants of the men of the 7th Royal Scots and others who were killed or disabled in the Gretna railway disaster on the 22nd May, 1915, and also-to those who, being in that train and about to embark for active service, did not subsequently go overseas until 1916 owing to the accident referred to?
I would refer my hon. and gallant Friend to the replies to similar questions asked by the hon. and gallant Member for Leith (Capt. W. Benn) on the 13th February, 1919, and 18th August, 1919.
Royal Engineers (Non-Commissioned Officer's Death)
asked the Secretary of State for War whether 2nd Corporal James Munro Selbie, No. W.R. 288,177, Railway Operating Division, Royal Engineers, who died in the Military Hospital, Devonport, on 8th February, 1920, embarked at Alexandria on H.M.T. "Czaritza" on 25th January; whether ho reported sick on 29th January and was admitted to the ship's hospital; whether he was found to have a temperature of 102, and what, if any, treatment did he receive; whether on the arrival of the ship at Gibraltar on 1st February his temperature was 1034; whether approximately 100 soldiers were taken off the ship at Gibraltar and sent to hospital for treatment; whether Corporal Selbie died of double pneumonia following influenza; and what does his medical chart disclose from the time he was admitted to the ship's hospital till he was disembarked at Devonport?
I have no details regarding this case, but inquiries are being made, and I will write to my hon. and gallant Friend as soon as I am in a position to do so.
Outfit Grant (Officers)
asked the Secretary of State for War whether any decision has yet been reached on the question of officers' expenses in respect of provision of uniform and otherwise?
Yea, Sir; the principle of an outfit grant for future officers on first commission is accepted, and was notified in Army Order 324 of 1919. The actual amount of the grant, however, has not yet been determined.
asked the Secretary of State for War whether the present cost of complete outfit of pre-war uniform of an officer of the regiments of Foot Guards is estimated to be not less than £300; and whether, in the event of it being finally decided to revert to pre-war uniforms in the ease of these regiments, it is proposed to make a grant to officers sufficient to cover the cost of providing all necessary items?
The statement in the first part of the hon. and gallant Member's question is substantially correct. As regards the latter part, a proposal to re-introduce pre-war uniform, with certain modifications which will reduce its cost, is under consideration. While the making of a grant for uniform to officers on entry is accepted in principle, the amount and conditions of the grant cannot yet be announced.
Foot Guards, London (Officers' Messes)
asked the Secretary of State for War whether full regimental messes have been established for battalions of the regiments of Foot Guards stationed in London; and whether, with a view to diminishing the expenditure necessarily incurred by officers, rations will be issued to the messes, as was done during the War, in respect of unmarried officers?
Owing to the general use always made of the Guards' Club, mess accommodation for Foot Guards Officers has never been provided on a full scale, but only for the small numbers taking their meals in barracks. There is at present mess accommodation as follows —Chelsea Barracks, dining accommodation for 14 officers.Wellington Barracks, dining accommodation for 16 officers.Tower of London Barracks, dining accommodation for 18 officers.Wimbledon Temporary Hutments. A hutted mess for each Battalion in occupation.With regard to the second part of the question, rations in kind or allowances in lieu are issuable to all officers serving at home or abroad for each day in respect of which full pay is drawn, and if officers' messes elect to draw in kind there is nothing to prevent them doing so, provided, of course, that the allowances in lieu and in kind are not drawn concurrently in respect of the same officer.
2Nd East Lancashire Regiment (Application Foe Release)
asked the Secretary of State for War whether his attention has been drawn to the case of Charles Burke, No. 53,713, 2nd East Lancashire Regiment, who enlisted in July, 1919; whether he is aware that this boy was only 16 years of age when he joined without the consent of his parent, and was the sole support of his widowed mother; that his birth certificate was forwarded to his commanding officer, but no replies have been received to various communications; and whether he will have inquiry made into this case?
If the facts are as stated by the hon. Member, this soldier will be discharged as soon as the statements have been verified. Instructions have been issued for the ease to be dealt with at once.
Royal Navy
Schoolmasters
asked the First Lord of the Admiralty whether he will consider the possibility of allowing naval schoolmasters to receive the pay of the rank they hold, seeing that while they enter with warrant rank their position in this respect is analagous to that of instructor lieutenants and surgeon lieutenants who enter with the rank of lieutenant, Royal Navy, and receive the pay of that rank on entry, although they do not serve successively as cadet, midshipman, and sub-lieutenant as do other officers?
The matter is already under consideration.
Union Of Democratic Control (Meeting At Cambridge)
asked the First Lord of the Admiralty whether his Department have any control over naval officer undergraduates at Cambridge; if so, whether his attention has been drawn to the action of some of these men in connection with a meeting promoted by the Union of Democratic Control in St. Andrew's Hall, Cambridge; whether he is aware that many acts of violence were committed; and whether he can take any action to prevent further outrages of a similar character on freedom of speech and public meeting?
I should be glad if the hon. Gentleman would put down this question a week later, in order that enquiry may be made.
Naval And Military Pensions And Grants
Select Committee (Second Report)
asked the Minister of Pensions the present position as regards the pensions of officers, officers' widows, non-commissioned officers, and men (and their widows) wounded in previous wars?
This question was dealt with in paragraphs 62 and 63 of the Second Report of the Select Committee, and the present position is stated in the last paragraph of the answer announcing the decisions of the Government on that Report, as shown in columns 596–605 of the OFFICIAL REPORT of the 4th instant.
Education
School Camps
asked the President of the Board of Education whether, under the Education Act, 1918, it has been ruled that a local education authority is bound to meet the total cost of sending school children to holiday or school camps; that school journeys have been conducted for nearly 20 years by the voluntary efforts of the teachers, in some cases the parents of the children bearing the expense, and in others the cost being defrayed from funds raised from concerts, bazaars, subscriptions, &c.; whether he is aware that in consequence of this ruling the number of children to be taken on school journeys in the London area is to be limited to a very low percentage, although there are funds collected for the purpose of sending many more children, and in a great many other cases parents are willing to pay; and whether ho can take any action which will enable the work of former years to continue at least for this year?
The Board of Education are not responsible for any such ruling as is referred to. The principle of Section 26 of the Act is that all children attending Public Elementary Schools, whatever their parents' means, should have equal opportunity of enjoying the educational advantages afforded by the schools. The Section prohibits the making of charges on the parents for these advantages, but it does not appear to my right hon. Friend to prohibit the collection of funds in the various ways suggested and their application to augment the funds which the Local Education Authority is willing to provide out of the rates for special purposes. My right hon. Friend hopes most sincerely that the good work which has been done in London will not be restricted, but he has no authority either to interpret the Act or to override its provisions.
Children (Medical Treatment)
asked the Minister of Health, whether it has been found in practice that the duty imposed under Section of the Local Education Authorities (Medical Treatment) Act, 1909, of recovering a charge for treatment deters parents from obtaining such treatment for their children; whether in certain areas the Act has become a dead-letter; whether, in view of this fact, it is the intention to amend or repeal the Act; and, if it is not the intention to amend or repeal the Act at an early date, what action should be taken by an authority which is anxious to comply with the Section, but finds that the making of any charge which will justify the cost of collection has a tendency to deter parents from obtaining the necessary treatment for their children?
I have received no representations of the nature referred to in the first part of the question; in any case, any Amendment affecting the principle of the Act could only properly be considered in close connection with the general question of the organisation of public health services, on which, as I have before indicated, I am not yet in a position to make any statement.
Ex-Service Men
Teachers (Medical, Examination)
asked the President of the Board of Education whether he will consider the expediency of relieving teachers who enlisted in the Army as A I men, and received wounds on service, from medical examination and from having to pay a fee for such examination, in order to place them at no disadvantage to non-serving teachers in respect of the death gratuity under the School Teachers (Superannuation) Act, 1918?
My right hon. Friend is afraid that he is debarred from adopting the hon. Member's suggestion by the provisions of Section 3 (1) of the Act. Teachers who served with the Forces are not in a position different from that of other teachers as regards medical examination and the payment of the fee for such examination.
Admiralty Staff (War Bonuses)
asked the Financial Secretary to the Treasury what reasons led the Treasury to differentiate between the Admiralty staff and the rest of the Civil Service in the matter of war bonus whilst on active service; and whether, in view of the dissatisfaction at this inequality of treatment, he will have the whole matter reconsidered?
I would refer the hon. Member to my answer to the hon. Member for Clitheroe (Mr. Alfred Davies) on the 25th February last.
Post Office Employes (Disabled Men's Pay)
asked the Postmaster-General whether the Post Office trade union has raised no objection to the employment of discharged and disabled soldiers in the Post Office, but has, on the contrary, fought for every discharged man to receive the full wages proper to the class of work on which he is employed; whether 15,615 disabled men were so employed on 1st February, 1920; whether the Government proposal to assess the disability of each ex-soldier employed with a view to reducing his wages has been the subject of determined opposition on the part of the union; whether the staff representatives on the Post Office Whitley Council have been denied the right to discuss the principle underlying these assessments because the authorities were unable to make any concession; whether, whilst the number of cases where reduced wages are paid is at present small it is the policy of the Government to continue this economy; and whether, having regard to the professions of sympathy with disabled men, he will consider the possibility of paying all disabled soldiers in the employ of the Government the full wages of the job on which they are employed?
The principle of assessing the wages of those disabled men, who cannot perform the full duties of their posts, in accordance with the value of their work was adopted on the recommendation of a Committee which included representatives of the Staff Unions. I am aware that although those representatives signed the Report, the recommendations have been opposed by some of the Unions concerned. Every effort is made to assign disabled men to posts the full duties of which they are able to perform, but if this is impracticable, it appears to me reasonable that the man's wages should be graduated in accordance with the work which he is actually capable of undertaking. The matter has already been discussed on the Post Office Whitley Council, but I am unable to agree to refer it to a Sub-Committee.
Government Departments (Telephone Operators And Shorthand Typists)
asked the Prime Minister whether or not his attention has been called to the training of soldiers blinded in the War as telephone operators and shorthand typists; and if he has yet issued instructions that will bring about the substitution of these men in Government Departments for women employed in these occupations?
Soldiers blinded in the War are trained as telephone operators and shorthand-typists by St. Dunstan's. No difficulty has been found in placing these men, with the assistance of the Ministry of Labour Employment Exchanges. The question of the employment of disabled ex-Service men in Government Departments recently received exhaustive consideration, and an extensive substitution of disabled ex-Service men for women was carried out. It was, however, not considered necessary to apply the scheme to shorthand-typists, as the demand for skilled operators is generally greater than the supply of either sex, and there is no difficulty in placing the limited numbers of trained ex-Service men. As regards telephone operating, the Postmaster-General was advised from St. Dunstan's that the employment of blinded soldiers should be restricted to boards with not more than 30 extensions. The only exchanges where such small boards are in use are certain private branch Exchanges on private premises, and the subscribers have been informed of the probability of the work being suitable for a blinded soldier and of the fact that St. Dunstan's can supply such men already trained for the work.
Woolwich Arsenal Railway Wagon Construction
asked the Minister of Labour whether, in connection with the provision of wagon building and locomotive work at Woolwich Arsenal, the Union of Wagon Builders caused a clause to be inserted in a contract at Horbury that discharged men were not to be taken back into employment unless the Government stopped building wagons at Woolwich; whether he can give particulars of such contract, including the text of the clause before referred to; and whether he can also state the present position of the matter?
I presume that the hon. Member refers to the agreement for the introduction of ex-Service men into the Railway Wagon and Repairing Industry. This agreement was the result of conferences arranged by my Department in consequence of a dispute at the works of Charles Roberts & Company, Ltd., Railway Wagon and Wheel Works, Horbury Junction, Wakefield. Employment of ex-soldiers by the firm led to a dispute which lasted from April to September, 1919. My Department intervened, and on the 18th September a conference was held of representatives of the railway companies, of the chief wagon building and wagon repairing firms, and of the unions concerned. Further conferences took place, in the course of which negotiations were entrusted by the other trade unions to the Amalgamated Society of Railway Vehicle Builders, Wheelwrights, Carpenters and Mechanics, as the trade union primarily concerned. Ultimately an agreement between this trade union on the one hand and the Wagon Builders' Association and the Wagon Repairing Association on the other was arrived at on the 17th December, 1919. This agreement set forth the conditions on which unskilled ex-service men should be eligible for admission as trainees into railway wagon building and repairing shops. Ex-service men up to the age of 23 years who had not acquired a skilled trade before joining His Majesty's Forces were to be admitted under the scheme, preference being given to younger men as far as possible. The period of training was to be for three years, and the agreement laid down the rates of pay and working conditions for the trainees. The Clause to which the hon. Member refers reads as follows:
This Clause is at variance with the views expressed by the Parliamentary Committee of the Trades Union Congress at a deputation received by the Prime Minister on December 8th, 1919 (nine days before the date of the agreement), when they urged that Government establishments, such as Woolwich, should be utilised for the production of railway wagons, &c. On the 24th December, 1919, and again on the 17th February, 1920, the attention of the Secretaries of the Parliamentary Committee of the Trades Union Congress was drawn to the inconsistency of the trade unions in this matter, and to the necessity of a reconsideration of this Clause in view of the great necessity for accelerating the repair and production of railway wagons. I understand that the Parliamentary Committee are in communication with the trade union concerned, but I have not been informed of the result of their intervention."That we only agree to the above on condition that the Government cease to do our work at any of their Departments and give the work to our men who are ready to perform the same."
Sanitary Inspectors
asked the Minister of Labour whether he is aware that ex-service men who have qualified as sanitary inspectors are not likely to be appointed until two months after their qualification; and whether, in view of the hardship involved, he will arrange that such qualified inspectors should, during the waiting period, be attached for practical instruction to local authorities?
I am not aware that sanitary inspectors who have qualified are likely to be unable to obtain employment for any specific period after qualification. I understand that vacancies for such inspectors occur at irregular intervals, irrespective of the dates upon which suitable candidates may become qualified. I shall inquire to what extent it may be feasible to have such men attached for practical instruction to local authorities in any waiting period which supervenes upon their training, but it must be kept in mind that such men would not be eligible for any further grants-in-aid under the Government training scheme, in view of the fact that they are already qualified men.
National Union Of Ex-Service Men (Representation At Conference)
asked the Minister of Labour why the National Union of Ex-Service Men, as the second largest organisation of ex-service men in Great Britain, was not invited to attend the conference on 1st March between himself and three of the other associations of discharged soldiers with reference to the employment of ex-service men in organised trades?
The three associations of ex-service men invited to attend this conference are those who have from time to time presented the case for the discharged men to the Government, and are, I believe, fully representative of those who have served in the Forces of the Crown. I am not aware that the National Union of Ex-Service Men is the second largest organisation of ex-service men in Great Britain.
Apprenticeship Scheme (Glasgow Dispute)
asked the Minister of Labour if negotiations have been proceeding between the Operative Plumbers' Association and the Federated Employers in Glasgow to induce the latter to agree to the Government training scheme for demobilised apprentices which have culminated in the Federated Employers locking out the members of the Plumbers' Association; whether it is the fact that that association has consistently assisted in all schemes for helping apprentices returning from the Forces; and whether the Labour Department will use its good offices in the direction of inducing the employers to agree to a scheme which will secure fair play for the apprentices and protect the members of the trade union from being locked out as a result of their efforts on behalf of the returned apprentices?
I regret that an unfortunate dispute has arisen between the parties mentioned by my right hon. Friend. A deputation from the National Joint Industrial Council of the Building Industry is now in Glasgow and in touch with both parties to the dispute. This deputation has already seen the employers and the operatives separately, and has summoned a joint meeting for to-day (Monday), when it is hoped a settlement will be reached. Representatives of the Ministry of Labour have been present at all meetings, and are using every effort to secure the adoption of the apprenticeship scheme.
Profiteering Act
Committees Of Inquiry
asked the President of the Board of Trade if he will state, in respect of the committees on cotton petrol, tobacco, soap, and building materials, the names of the members of the committees, their occupations, and whether any member of any committee is directly interested in the production of the commodity the subject of inquiry?
The subcommittees referred to in the question were or are constituted as follows:
Cotton.
Mr. Frederick Richmond (Chairman), Managing Director of Messrs. Debenhams, Ltd., Drapers, etc., of Wigmore Street, W.I.
Mr. J. H. Guy, of the Imperial and Foreign Corporation, Ltd.
Mr. Arthur Greenwood, Economist and Publicist.
Alderman R. Morley, of the National Federation of General Workers.
Mr. E. S. Pengelly, of the "Star" Newspaper.
Mr. Sidney Webb, Economist and Publicist.
The following two gentlemen were added to this sub-committee on the 2nd March, 1920:—
Mr. J. E. Baker, M.B.E, M.A., LL.B., Chairman, Sheffield and District Engineering Employers' Association.
Sir Henry Buckingham, Governing Director of Messrs. J. H. Buckingham & Co., Ltd., Manufacturers and Warehousemen.
Motor Fuel:
Sir Wilfred Stokes, K.B.E. (Chairman), of Messrs. Ransomes & Rapier, Ltd., Engineers.
Sir John Cadman, Director, His Majesty's Petroleum Executive.
Mr Frank Chitham, Director, Harrods, Ltd.
Bailie P. Gillespie, J.P., Horse and Motormen's Association.
Mr. H. F. Manisty, K.C., Barrister-at-Law.
Mr. S. March, Vehicle Workers' Union.
Captain R. H. Montgomery, Automobile Association.
Mr. J. Taylor, J.P., General Federation of Trade Unions.
Mr P. G. L. Webb, C.B, C.B.E., late Petrol Control Department and at present His Majesty's Patent Office.
Mr Walter Wolsey, Junr., The Commercial Motor Users' Association.
Tobacco:
Mr Sidney Webb (Chairman), Economist and Publicist.
Mr. T. B. Johnston, General Earthenware Manufacturers' Association.
Mr. J. F. Mason, Chairman, Messrs. Mason & Barry, Pyrites Merchants.
Mr. R. S. Pengelly, of the "Star"' Newspaper.
Sir Francis Towle, C.B.E., late Tobacco Control Board and Navy and Army Canteen Board.
Soap:
Sir William Beveridge, K.C.B. (Chairman), London School of Economics and Political Science.
Mr G. W. Bailey, Barrister-at-Law.
Mr F. J. Blakemore, F.G.I., of Messrs. E. Blakemore & Sons, Ltd., Grocers, Wolverhampton.
Mr. John Hilton, Ministry of Labour.
Mr. Frederick Eichmond, Managing Director of Messrs. Debenhams, Ltd., Drapers, etc., of Wigmore Street, W.I.
Mr. H. S. Syrett, Solicitor and Secretary to the Consumers' Council.
Mr. W. H. Watkins, a representative of the Co-operative Movement upon the Consumers' Council.
Building Materials:
Mr. C. A. McCurdy, K.C., M.P. (Chairman), Parliamentary Secretary Secretary, Ministry of Food.
Sir Gilbert F. Garnsey, K.B.E., F.C.A., of Messrs. Price, Water-house and Co., Chartered Accountants.
Mr. W. G. Hunter, of the Ministry of Health.
Mr. J. W. Lorden, M.P., Member for the Northern Division of St. Pancras.
Alderman R. Morley, National Federation of General Workers.
Mr. H. E. Stilgoe, of the Metropolitan Water Board.
Mr. Sidney Taylor, Vice-President, National Federation of Building Trades' Operatives.
Mr. Sidney Webb, Economist and Publicist.
Mr. A. G. White, Secretary, National Federation of Building Trades Employers of Great Britain and Ireland.
So far as I am aware, none of these gentlemen are directly interested in the production of the commodities they have been called upon to investigate.
Petrol (Price)
asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he is now in a position to supply the House with any definite statement by the oil importing companies to justify the increased cost of petrol by 8d. per gallon?
The Shell Marketing Company published a statement in the Press on the 4th February giving figures under various heads of cost with a view to justifying the increase in price. I have seen no later statement of the kind.
Coal Production
Shortage Of Supplies (Wishaw And Bletchley)
asked the President of the Board of Trade whether the Wishaw (Scotland) Co-operative Society has been inadequately supplied with household coal as per the registered number of consumers; that for the three months of November and December, 1919, and January, 1020, they were 261 tons short of the amount due to them; and if he will take immediate steps to remove this anomaly at once, which is a hardship upon the 900 small consumers?
I am aware of the position at Wishaw. Steps have already been taken to send emergency coal.
asked the President of the Board of Trade whether his attention has been called to the shortage of household coal in the Bletchley district; whether the merchants have no coal in stock and that many of the schools are being closed; whether he will cause some emergency coal to be sent down forthwith to relieve the shortage; and/or whether he will cause an inspector to visit the locality?
I am aware of the position as regards coal supplies at Bletchley, and efforts are being made to improve the position.
Alsatian Potash
asked the President of the Board of Trade if Alsatian potash was offered to his Department about the same time the German potash contract was made, and at what price per ton for the different grades?
Some tentative proposals were made for the substitution of supplies of Alsatian potash for those to be obtained under the German contract. As, however, that contract had been made essentially for the purpose of enabling the German Government to provide credits for foodstuffs, and His Majesty's Government had no intention of contracting for potash supplies generally, the proposals were not pursued, and consequently no definite price quotations were made.
Austria (British Creditors)
asked the President of the Board of Trade if he will state the most lately ascertained amount owing to British subjects by enemy debtors resident in Austria on the outbreak of War, recorded with the Custodian for England and Wales; in view of the fact that property held by and recorded with the Custodian in this country belonging to persons resident in Austria and Hungary exceeded in November last the property in Austria and Hungary belonging to persons resident in the United Kingdom, what steps, if any, are being taken for the protection of British creditors of Austrian subjects, both generally and where the debtors cannot now be traced; and is it the intention of the Government to demand from the Austrian Government payment in full of debts due to British subjects, and at what rate of exchange?
I am informed that the total claims recorded by British subjects resident in England and Wales against persons or firms carrying on business in Austria as on the 31st January last, including some claims in respect of property in Austria, amounted to £15,560,208. The original record of claims has been reduced by the amount of claims which have been ascertained to be against persons who are not now Austrian subjects, and further reductions will no doubt be made in this respect. I am afraid that the property in this country of Austrians and Hungarians will not be sufficient to secure the payment of British claimants in full. In reply to the remainder of the question, I would refer my hon. Friend to the answer given on the 19th February to the question of my hon. Friend the Member for Coventry (Mr. Manville) and to the answer given on the 23rd February to the question of my hon. Friend the Member for Oldham (Mr. Bartley Dennis).
Empire Grown Tobacco
asked the Under-Secretary of State for the Colonies whether, in view of the stocks of American tobacco now in this country and the decision of the Port of London Authority to provide increased storage at the Royal Victoria Docks, some arrangement will be made to encourage the importation of tobacco from overseas Dominions, with a view to stabilising the Anglo-American exchange; and what efforts have been made recently by the Department to encourage growers of tobacco in British Dominions overseas?
Substantial encouragement is given to the importation of Empire grown tobacco by the preferential reduction of duty provided by the Finance Act, 1919, All due assistance is at the same time being given to tobacco growers by the Agricultural Departments of Colonies and Protectorates in which tobacco is produced, and I may add that it is proposed to appoint a special tobacco inspector, with a view to improving the conditions in which tobacco is exported from Nyasaland.
Somaliland (Development Of Resources)
asked the Under-Secretary of State for the Colonies whether the project for a railway from the coast to the interior of Somaliland is still alive or whether recent successes render such no longer necessary?
There would certainly no longer be any military justification for considering the project of constructing a railway in British Somaliland. I hope, however, now that the Dervish incubus has been disposed of, that we shall be able to develop the resources of the Protectorate to a greater extent than has been possible hitherto, and the question of improving the means of communication in the Protectorate to this end is receiving careful consideration.
West African Civil Service (Pensions)
asked the Under-Secretary of State for the Colonies whether he has received a reply from the Colonial Governments in West Africa on the subject of pensions for retired members of the West African Civil Service; and what steps are now to be taken to do justice to this class of retired public servant?
The answer to the first part of the, question is in the affirmative; as regards the second part suggestions for the grant of certain bonuses on West African pensions are at present under the consideration of the local governments.
British Empire
asked the Under-Secretary of State for the Colonies whether, in view of recent statements made, he can assure the House that no portion of the British Empire is for sale?
Yes, Sir; the British Empire is not for sale.
Nyasaland (Export Duty On Tobacco)
asked the Under-Secretary of State for the Colonies whether legislation is being introduced into the Legislative Council of Nyasaland to provide for the levy of an export duty of 2d. per lb. of tobacco, which would seriously prejudice the hitherto successful movement for settling ex-officers and others on the land in the protectorate; whether a deputation of the Chamber of Commerce is about to interview the Governor in this connection; and whether he will communicate by cable with the Government of Nyasaland, with a view to ensuring such delay as will at least enable the matter to be thoroughly discussed and considered?
The Governor of Nyasaland has already communicated to me by telegraph the objections raised to the proposed export duty on tobacco, and the matter is receiving careful consideration.
Nigeria (Executions)
asked the Under-Secretary of State for the Colonies what was the total number of persons executed in in Nigeria in 1917; how many of these were tried before the Supreme Provincial and Native Courts, respectively; and how many of the persons executed were defended by counsel?
I will en deavour to get the information asked for by my hon. Friend.
Foot-And-Mouth Disease (Committee Of Inquiry)
asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Agriculture what are the terms of reference of the Committee appointed to inquire into foot-and-mouth disease, and which, if any, members of this Committee represent stockowners?
The following gentlemen have consented to serve on the Committee set up to deal with the problems arising from foot-and-mouth disease:—
Chairman:
Professor Robert Muir, Professor of Pathology, University of Glasgow.
Members:
Sir John M'Fadyean, Principal and Professor of Pathology and Bacteriology at the Royal Veterinary College, Camden Town.
Lieut.-Colonel C J. Martin, Director of the Lister Institute of Preventive Medicine.
Clifford Dobell, Esq., Protistologist to the Medical Research Committee.
Professor J. M. Beattie, Medical Faculty and Veterinary School of the University of Liverpool, and City Bacteriologist.
Sir Stewart Stockman, Chief Veterinary Officer, Ministry of Agriculture.
This Committee, which has been appointed by the Minister, is composed entirely of scientists, and no members have been appointed by representative bodies of stock-owners. Until the Committee has met, and had an opportunity of discussing the problems to be investigated, it is impossible to say when the actual research work will be begun.
Kew Gardens (Labour Conditions)
asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Agriculture whether ho will consider the advisability of establishing a 48-hour week, with cessation of work at noon on Saturdays, for gardeners, labourers, and carters at Kew Gardens, and thus assimilate the conditions there to those in the royal parks and under local borough councils and other employés in the locality?
The question of establishing a 48-hour week at Kew is under consideration by the Ministry. As, however, this is a matter which the Ministry have in common with the Office of Works, it will require to be dealt with by an inter-departmental meeting, arranged under paragraph 18 of the Constitution of the Department's Whitley Council.
Post Office
Chesham Place, London (Morning Delivery)
asked the Postmaster-General whether he is aware that letters are not delivered in Chesham Place until after 8.30 a.m.; and what is the reason of this?
The morning delivery of letters at Chesham Place, unless the post is exceptionally heavy, is completed by 8.45 a.m., the time fixed generally for the town districts in London. It is not practicable to arrange for an earlier delivery.
War Staff (Temporary)
asked the Postmaster-General whether a specific promise was given to the deputation from the Bournemouth National Association of Temporary Postal Employees by letter to the executive of that association that the temporary postal staff of Bournemouth should have full unemployment pay through the labour exchanges in lieu of a gratuity; whether, failing unemployment pay, a gratuity would be given equal to about six months' pay; and, if so, whether he will take steps to see that this promise is carried out?
I am not aware that any such promise was made. I have arranged that not less than a month's notice should be given to the remaining members of the temporary war staff, but I am unable to accede to the claim for a gratuity on discharge.
War Bonus
asked the Postmaster-General whether the civil pay of a Post Office servant is composed of wages and war bonus; whether there are any exceptions to the recent decisions at Exeter; and, if not, whether the claim of the men of the special sections that the term full civil pay includes war bonus which they would have received had they not voluntarily enlisted will be reconsidered?
I would refer the hon. Member to the reply to the question asked by the hon. Member for Pontypool (Mr. Griffiths) on the 12th of February.
Caretaker Operators
asked the Postmaster-General what body is considering the possibility of improving the remuneration of caretaker operators; whether this is a matter which should be dealt with under the Whitley scheme; and if he will refer the whole question of caretaker operators' pay and conditions to the Post Office Whitley Council with a view to an early decision?
The question of improving the method of fixing the remuneration of caretaker operators is being considered by my Department. There is at present no association which can be regarded as representative of the class of caretaker operators; and the Whitley machinery is therefore hardly appropriate to the ease.
Peinted Matter (Charges)
asked the Postmaster-General whether, apart from advertising circulars, the volume of propaganda matter, pamphlets, and other literature constitutes a very considerable portion of the postal distribution; and whether, as the extension of these are of less consequence than letters, he will arrange that these should bear any addition, of the postal charges which it may be necessary to impose for the purpose of additional revenue?
Packets of printed matter—if exceeding 2 oz. in weight and not consisting of copies of newspapers registered for transmission at the Inland newspaper rate—do not now enjoy the benefit of a special rate. They are, if light, sent at letter rate, and, if heavy, at parcel rate. As they are not, therefore, sent in open covers, I have no exact data, but I doubt whether matter such as the hon. Member describes forms any considerable portion of postal trafile.
Ss "Bohemian" (Telephonic Error)
asked the Postmaster-General if, in view of the anxiety that was caused to the relatives of passengers and crew on the liner "Bohemian" by the telegraphic report that 184 persons on board had been drowned, he will endeavour to find out who was responsible for the dissemination of the report, with a view to preventing a repetition of similar unfounded alarms?
I understand that the report was received by Reuter s from their correspondent in New York, and that an error, "drowned" for "grounded," occurred in the course of its telephonic transmission by the sender to the Western Union Telegraph Company's Office in New York.
Poplar Borough Council (Non-Trade Unionists)
asked the Minister of Labour if the Poplar Borough Council insist that all their employés must join a, trade union or sacrifice a considerable amount of war bonus; has he received any protest from the workpeople; has his attention been called to the case, heard at the Bow County Court, where a watchman, who for many years had been employed by the Poplar Council, sued the council unsuccessfully for war bonus withheld for the reason that he refused to join any union; and does he propose to take steps to stop this practice?
I understand that the Poplar Borough Council extended a wages increase to certain of their employés on condition that they joined a trade union. I have not received a protest from the men concerned, but there is a somewhat similar dispute affecting certain grades of electrical workers who have reported their case to me. I have seen reports in the public Press about the watchman who claimed the bonus, although he did not join a trade union I understand that leave to appeal has been granted. The case of the electrical workers is, I understand, being discussed by the Joint Board set up to consider disputes arising between workmen of the class affected and their employers. The borough council is affiliated to this board through its municipal electricity undertaking. On the general question, victimisation of men who do not join unions is just as much to be deprecated as victimisation of men who are members of such organisations, but I have no power to take any effective steps in either case.
Industrial Councils
Enforcement Of Agreements
asked the Minister of Labour if dissatisfaction exists in those industries that have established Industrial Councils when decisions and agreements arrived at are ignored or set at defiance by those employers who are not parties to those agreements or members of employers' associations; and whether he will consider the advisability of making the decisions and agreements upon wages, conditions, and hours of employment arrived at by all Industrial Councils binding upon the whole of the respective industries when they represent two-thirds of the workers and their employers concerned, so as to prevent employers underselling those who are helping to establish industrial peace?
I propose to answer this question in some detail because the principle involved is one to which public attention ought to be given. I should say, in the first place, that while it is the fact that several Joint Industrial Councils have asked for powers to make their agreements compulsory on the whole trade, it is far from being the case that this demand is universal. This division of opinion was to be expected in view of the controversial history of this and the allied question, from which it is difficult to dissocate it, of making awards of Courts of Arbitration compulsory. In 1913, the Industrial Council, a body consisting or representatives of employers' associations and trade unions, under the. chairmanship of Sir George (now Lord) Askwith, reported that, subject to certain conditions to which I need not allude, an agreement entered into by associations of employers and workmen, representing a substantial body of those in the trade or district, should be made applicable to the whole of the trade or district concerned. The matter was then considered by the Trade Union Congress, at which the proposal was rejected by a large majority. The Trade Union Congress had previously rejected the idea in 1912, and the Labour party adopted the same attitude in 1913. The hon. Member's proposal was the subject of one of the recommendations of the Provisional Joint Committee of the National Industrial Conference. I endeavoured to secure the opinion of the Trade Union Congress in September of last year, but I understand that the Parliamentary Committee was unable to bring the matter before the main body. I made a further attempt to ascertain the reception which the proposal would meet from workpeople's organisations at the time when I was introducing the Industrial Courts Act. At that time, however, it was rejected by the trade union organisations largely on the ground that it was proposed, and I think justly proposed, to make compulsion two-sided, penalties for breach being provided equally against employers and employed. Under the Trade Union Act of 1871 and the Trade Disputes Act, 1906, not only is it impossible to enforce legally an agreement made between employers' associations and workers' associations, but it is also impossible to bring an action against either such association for inducing or assisting its members to break the contract to which it has itself been a party. Contracts between employers and workmen's associations rest, therefore, only upon the good faith of the parties to-them, and, unless the law is altered in this respect, it is difficult to see how it is possible to make them legally binding upon persons who are not themselves, parties to the agreement. The difficulty of making compulsion apply equally is perhaps not greater than the practical difficulties which would be involved in making agreements of joint industrial councils compulsory on the whole trade. Not only would complicated questions of demarcation and trade definition inevitably arise, but the question of the extent to which any given group of employers or employed represented a large majority of the trade would require close examination. There is the further difficulty that certain wage settlements affect an industry, while others affect a craft extending through a number of industries. For these reasons it is clear that the matter is not one which can be settled without a great deal of further discussion and examination. In saying this, however, I am not averse from giving further consideration to this matter, but unless a substantial agreement of opinion exists among employers and workpeople I should not be prepared to introduce the necessary legislation.
Re-Settlement Grant
asked the Minister of Labour whether his attention has been called to a recent resolution of the York "War Pensions Committee protesting against the ruling of the Civil Liabilities Department, which precludes discharged soldiers from making applications for grants if they were discharged prior to 11th November, 1918, and did not make application before 30th September, 1919; whether he is aware that this ruling inflicts serious hardship on ex-service men, particularly in cases where they have been undergoing training and have applied for grants to set up businesses as a result of that training; and whether he will give directions that each case shall be considered on its merits, and not be subject to strict time limits as at present?
The restriction to which my hon. and learned Friend refers is not a Departmental one, but is laid down by the Treasury Regulations governing the administration of the Civil Liabilities Fund. I have, however, already announced in answer to previous questions in the House that the time limit fixed by this Regulation has been extended so far as the case of disabled men Tinder treatment for their disability is concerned, and I would refer my hon. and learned Friend in this connection particularly to the reply given to the hon. and gallant Member for Norfolk, N. (Commander King), on 12th February.
Unemployment Insurance Bill
asked the Minister of Labour whether he will issue to members of the Standing Committee which is considering the Unemployment Insurance Bill a full translation of the unemployment insurance decree promulgated by the Italian Government on 17th December, 1919?
I will arrange for this to be done. A translation has already been made and copies will be issued as soon as they can be printed.
Private Motor Cars (Taxation)
asked the Minister of Transport whether his Advisory Committee has recommended the imposition of a tax on privately-owned motor vehicles of £1 per unit of horse-power; whether he has considered that in the 20 years that have elapsed since the use of motor cars became general a motor car is now a means of locomotion used for convenience or necessity, and not as an indication of wealth; and will he give the reason why the owner of a Ford motor car should be taxed £20, and the owner of a carriage and a pair of horses pay no additional taxation beyond the licence for his crest and coachman?
I have not yet received a Report from the Departmental Committee on the taxation of mechanically propelled road vehicles. The points mentioned in my hon. and gallant Friend's question will be taken into consideration before any decision is arrived at by the Government.
Pauper Lunatics (Maintenance)
asked the Minister of Health if, due to the increased cost of lunatic patients chargeable to boards of guardians maintained at lunatic asylums, the sum of 4s. per head repaid to the various unions under The Local Government Act, 1888, is inadequate and throws a heavy burden upon local rates; and if he will introduce legislation to amend The Local Government Act, 1888, so as to provide for repayment to boards of guardians of at least one-half of the actual cost to them of every lunatic patient maintained in a county asylum?
May I refer the hon. Member to replies given to previous questions upon this subject and particularly to that given to my hon. Friend the Member for Cirencester and Tewkesbury (Mr. T. Davies) on Monday last?
Housing
Accommodation (Rationing)
asked the Minister of Health whether he will introduce a Bill authorising local authorities to ration housing accommodation within their areas?
No, Sir. I do not think that the proposal is a practicable one.
Cost Of Living (Board Of Trade Index Figures)
asked the Prime Minister if it has been ascertained by the economic section of the Supreme Council that wholesale prices show the following increases over 1914: Italy over 300 per cent., France 300 per cent., Great Britain 170 per cent., Japan 160 per cent., and America 120 per cent.; if he can state the reasons why the Labour Gazette of the Board of Trade only shows an increase of 130 per cent. over and above 1914; and if he will take action in the matter?
The figures given are those which appear to the Supreme Council to represent; approximately the movements of wholesale prices in the countries named. The difference between the measure of the rise in wholesale prices in this country, 170 per cent., and of that in retail prices, 130 per cent., is almost wholly due to two causes. One is that the retail index includes expenditure on house rent, which has increased but little in the case of the wage-earning classes, owing to restrictive legislation. The other is that the bread subsidy has resulted in a much smaller rise in the retail prices of bread and flour than in the wholesale prices of wheat.
Old Age Pensions
asked the Financial Secretary to the Treasury whether an old age pensioner, who would otherwise be entitled to receive his pension, is debarred from doing so by the fact that a voluntary allowance is made to him by a relative, which allowance is not legally binding upon the relative but may be withdrawn or revoked at any time?
The question whether or not an old age pensioner would be disqualified for the continued receipt of his pension by reason of the grant of a voluntary allowance, would depend on whether the voluntary allowance raised his total means above the statutory limit for the pension.
Loans To Allies
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will state, in tabular form, for Britain, America, and France, respectively, the loans made by each of these countries to any of their Allies or partners in the war and give particulars for each case as to the agreed rate of interest, and conditions made as to repayments, and any payments of interest or repayments of principal which have yet been made; if any formal postponements have been made of interest payments; and, if so, upon what, if any, conditions?
The obligations of the Allies to this country (exclusive of post-War advances for Reconstruction) are now approximately as follows:—
| £ | |
| Russia | 568,000,000 |
| France | 470,500,000 |
| Italy | 470,000,000 |
| Belgium | 86,500,000 |
| Serbia | 20,000,000 |
| Greece, Portugal, Roumania, and other Allies | 51,000,000 |
| £ 1,666,000,000 |
The total advances made by the United States Government down to 15th November, 1919, as given in the Annual Report of the United States Treasury, were as follow:—
| $ | |
| United Kingdom | 4,220,000,000 |
| Russia | 188,000,000 |
| France | 2,985,000,000 |
| Italy | 1,611,000,000 |
| Belgium | 339,000,000 |
| Serbia | 27,000,000 |
| Other Allies | 136,000,000 |
| $9,506,000,000 |
The advances were made against demand obligations bearing interest corresponding to the American loans from which they were provided.
The total advances made by France as on 6th November, 1919, were, I understand, 12,000,000,000 francs, but I have no particulars as to the amounts lent to particular countries or the conditions on which loans were granted.
Negotiations are proceeding with regard to the postponement of interest payments, but no formal postponement has yet taken place.
Silver Coinage Bill (Colonies And Protectorates)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will give a list of the Colonies and Protectorates whose currency is affected by the Silver Coinage Bill and whose new silver coinage will automatically drop to 500 fine as soon as the Bill is passed?
No Colony or Protectorate is affected by the Silver Coinage Bill except in so far as it uses British sterling silver coin. Apart from the Dominions of New Zealand and South Africa, the following Colonies and Protectorates now draw British silver coin from the Royal Mint in this country:—The West Indies (including Bermuda), Gibraltar, Malta, St. Helena, Rhodesia, Basutoland, Bechuanaland, Swaziland, Nyasaland, Fiji, British Guiana, and the Falkland Islands. West Africa (Nigeria, Gold Coast, Sierra Leone, and Gambia), in which British silver coin is in circulation concurrently with West African silver coin, would be affected if it drew fresh supplies of British silver.
Government Securities
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether his attention has been drawn to the fall which has occurred in the market quotations of British Government securities since the question of the taxation of war profits was referred to a Committee; and, as the depreciation is attributed to this inquiry, if he will take steps to have a time limit established within which the Committee shall be required to report?
I cannot admit that the recent fall in Government securities is solely attributable to the cause suggested by the hon. Member, though I am aware of the disturbing effect which the discussion of such a tax must have. But the Committee is fully alive to the importance of completing its inquiry in as short a time as possible. It is, however, far more important to secure a thorough examination of both the advantages and disadvantages of this proposal than to set a time limit to the deliberations of the Committee.
Kensington Gardens (Round Pond)
asked the First Commissioner of Works whether he will give orders for the repair of the gravel path about the Round Pond in Kensington Gardens, so as to prevent the water being held up in large puddles by the stone coping of the pond?
This matter is being attended to.
House Of Commons (Ventilation)
asked the First Commissioner of Works whether, in connection with any schemes for improving the ventilation of the House of Commons, he will take into consideration the evidence given before a Parliamentary Committee on this subject, which sat prior to the War, under the chairmanship of Lord Bledisloe?
The answer is in the affirmative.