Written Answers to Questions
Thursday, April 28, 1921
Questions
Central and Secondary Schools (Conversion)
asked the President of the Board of Education whether, in view of the indignation it has caused, he will reconsider his declaration of 23rd March that he is willing to convert central schools into secondary schools; whether he has received any public demand for the proposed change, and for the abolition of the Cowper-Temple clause, the possible imposition of fees, the largely increased cost, and the loss by the scholars of other advantages of the Act of 1870, which the change he suggests would involve; and whether, seeing that the education given in some secondary schools is sometimes inferior to that given in some central schools, in accordance with Section 2 (2) of the Education Act, 1918, any change of status in the schools, if made on educational grounds, would be exactly contrary to that which he suggests?
My allusion to the possibility of converting central elementary schools into secondary schools had reference, on the one hand, to the fact that several such conversions have lately been made on the initiative of the local education authorities concerned, and, on the other, that an important authority has lately applied to the Board to authorise under Section 8 (5) of the Education Act, 1918, the retention of a large number of pupils in central schools beyond the end of the term in which they reach the age of 16. In view of the limitation imposed by the Education Acts upon the age to which children may be retained in elementary schools there will certainly be cases in which the educational development of a school would be facilitated by its conversion into a seconday school. I should certainly not favour such a conversion unless I thought it conducive to the better and more effective organisation of the public system of education.
Elementary Schools, London (Leaving Age)
asked the President of the Board of Education whether, as stated in the London County Council Gazette for 11th April, 1921, page 275, the Board of Education have made regulations that children may not remain in public elementary schools after the end of the year in which they attain the age of 15 years; whether it is the policy of the Board to deprive children of full-time education in order to force them into part-time continuation schools; whether he has considered the views of managers of schools, as directed by Section 8 (5) of the Act of 1918; have these alleged regulations been published; if not, will he have them printed and put on sale so that the public may know their exact purport; and, if possible, will he quote in the same publication Section 22 (2) of the Act of 1902, and Section 8 (5) and Section 10 (3) of the Act of 1918, to make the information complete?
The Board have made no such Regulations. The period for which children may be retained in public elementary schools is determined by the statutory provisions to which the hon. Member refers. The Board are always prepared to consider applications for extension of age, and I read the notice referred to by the hon. Member in the London County Council Gazette as merely indicating that the London County Council are not, except in certain circumstances, prepared to make such applications. The other parts of the question do not arise.
Teachers' Salaries
asked the President of the Board of Education whether he is aware that the secretary to the Burnham Committee on teachers' salaries has written to the Dewsbury local education authority intimating that the scheduling of the appropriate scales to be paid by the various local education authorities will not be completed before June; whether such delay is likely to cause serious dissatisfaction amongst teachers who were anticipating that the payments under the new scale would be made during the month of April; and whether in areas where an agreement has been arrived at between the local education authorities and the teachers as to the appropriate scale for the area, and such agreement has been approved by the Burnham Committee, an immediate notification to that effect will be sent to the local education authority, thus enabling the new arrangements to take effect at once?
I have no knowledge of the communication referred to; but I have just received a report from the Burnham Committee on the allocation of standard scales. I can make no announcement to local education authorities until I have had time to examine the report, but I will do my best to expedite its consideration.
Foot-And-Mouth Disease
asked the Minister of Agriculture whether his Department exercises any supervision over the private vaccine farms in this country in which vaccine lymph is manufactured, having regard to the fact that at least two outbreaks of foot-and-mouth disease in the United States of America have been attributed by the authorities to the use of contaminated vaccine lymph on private vaccine farms?
The Ministry exercises no supervision or control over private vaccine farms in this country in which vaccine lymph is manufactured. I may add that the Ministry has inquired into hundreds of outbreaks of foot-and-mouth disease in this country since the report from the United States of America was published, but in no case has any evidence been obtained that foot-and-mouth disease has ever been introduced into Great Britain through the medium of vaccine lymph.
Regent's Park
asked the Minister of Agriculture what leases of leasehold enclosures of Crown lands in Regent's Park have expired, or have been surrendered, since the 25th June, 1912, when the then President of the Board of Agriculture gave an undertaking to the House that there should be no further alienation of such land for the erection of public buildings without the House having the chance first of expressing its opinion on the subject; whether any of the leases of the private villas have been renewed; whether steps have been taken to throw into the park any, and, if so, which, of the sites where the leases have expired; and whether any sanction has been given for the extension of buildings in connection with Bedford College, or is in contemplation?
Since the 25th June, 1912, no leases of enclosures or villas within the park (bounded by the Outer Circle Road) have expired or been surrendered other than the lease of St. John's Lodge. On the expiry of that lease about 5½ acres that had been held with the lodge were, in accordance with arrangements previously made with His Majesty's Office of Works, thrown into the park and a new lease has been granted of the remainder of the premises. In connection with Bedford College, the demolition of South Lodge has been sanctioned and the erection on the site of new buildings that are not to exceed the existing lodge in area or height.
Industrial Towns (Trees and Shrubs)
asked the Minister of Agriculture if he is now prepared to submit schemes to local authorities which will enable them to facilitate the planning and growth of grass squares with trees in industrial centres, as also the planting and proper care of trees in the streets of industrial towns, the poisonous atmosphere of which is now destroying all efforts in this direction and which also has the effect of shortening human life?
The nature of the information by my hon. Friend, so far as I understand his question, would seem to be advice as to the types of trees or shrubs which would be most suitable for planting in industrial towns where the atmosphere is bad. So far as this matter is concerned, I am informed by the Forestry Commission that the most suitable species generally are the broadleaved trees, but the precise species which is likely to do best in any particular case will depend on any number of factors, such as local climate, soil, character of fumes, etc. I am informed that the following are good smoke-resisting trees, namely:
London Plane. Tree of Heaven. Poplar. Sycamore. Alder. Maple. Lime. Elm.
And the best shrubs which would endure acid fumes are:
Ancuba. Laurestinus. Laurels. Holly. Whin. Box. Broom. Privet. Veronica. Flowering Currant. Lilac. Philadelphus. Red Hawthorn. Berberry. Forsythia Suspensa. Mahonia.
If there be any further information my hon. Friend requires, I would suggest that he should put a question to the Forestry Commission. So far as any question relating to the submission of schemes to local authorities is concerned, this would appear to be a matter for the Ministry of Health.
Home-Grown Wheat
asked the Minister of Agriculture on what form and terms the undertaking to give to the miller 25s. a quarter for each quarter of British-grown wheat milled by him was communicated to the persons to whom such payments are to be made?
I have been asked to reply. The arrangements referred to are contained in instructions and Press announcements which are somewhat lengthy, and I will send copies to the hon. and gallant Member.
Wheat Commission (Accounts)
asked the Prime Minister if the accounts of the Wheat Commission will be subjected to audit by the Controller and Auditor-General; whether, if there is a deficiency, the deficiency will be a charge on public funds; and whether, if there is a surplus, it will be an appropriation in aid of public funds?
I have been asked to reply. The answer to all three parts of the question is in the affirmative.
Joiners' Strike
asked the Minister of Labour whether any estimate can be given of the total loss to the country occasioned by the joiners' strike in respect of wages, the number of ships under construction upon which work has been stopped owing to the dispute, the number of ships under refit upon which work has had to be stopped, and the number of ships which have had to be sent to foreign ports to complete their refit?
I have been asked to reply. There are no official materials on which a satisfactory estimate can be based of the total loss to the country occasioned by the joiners' strike, but the reports received show that this loss is a very serious one indeed to the shipbuilding and ship-repairing industry.
Minister Without Portfolio
asked the Lord Privy Seal when it is proposed to put down the salary of the Minister without portfolio for discussion?
I regret that I am not yet in a position to name a date.
Whitsuntide Recess
asked the Lord Privy Seal whether he can give a date upon which the House will adjourn for Whitsuntide and the date for its re-assembly?
I hope to make an announcement as to the Whitsuntide Recess next week.
Procedure (Select Committee's Recommendations)
asked the Lord Privy Seal what steps, if any, have been taken by the Government to give effect to the recommendations contained in the Report of the Select Committee on the Procedure governing Bills which involve Charges?
The recommendations of the Committee involve complicated questions of procedure and in certain instances legislation. My hon. Friend the Financial Secretary to the Treasury is in communication with the Departments concerned and hopes to reach a decision very shortly.
Rabies (Muzzling Orders)
asked the Home Secretary in which districts the muzzling order is still in operation; and when he hopes the restrictions imposed will be removed?
I have been asked to reply. The Muzzling Order is still in operation in (1) the Metropolitan Borough of Hammersmith and the adjoining area in Middlesex of about 4 miles radius around Acton;
(2) an area surrounding Reading and Chepping Wycombe, comprising parts of Buckinghamshire, Oxfordshire, Berkshire, and the Basingstoke district of Hampshire;
(3) an area comprising the greater part of Hampshire, Dorset, and Wiltshire, and including the coast towns from Portsmouth to Poole; and
(4) Glamorgan (Cowbridge district).
Orders have been made which will take effect on the 1st May, withdrawing the Muzzling Order from Glamorgan and reducing considerably the extent of the areas numbered (2) and (3). Since the 1st January last, six cases of rabies have occurred in the Reading area (the latest case reported being on the 1st February) and eight in the Wiltshire, Hants, and Dorset area (the latest case reported being on the 19th March). Even if no further case occurs it will not be possible for the Ministry to withdraw the Order entirely from these two areas before the autumn. As regards the Acton area, it is proposed to revoke the Order about the end of June, provided that no further case of rabies occurs in the meantime.
asked the Minister of Agriculture why Portsmouth has been declared an area in which the muzzling of dogs is necessary; if any cases of rabies have been notified in the borough; and when this Order will be lifted?
When rabies appears in a centre it is necessary to restrict the movement of dogs within a considerable area round the place where the disease was actually detected, since the tendency of mad dogs is to wander for long distances. It is also necessary, for the same reason, to apply muzzling in the scheduled area since there is danger of rabies arising therein at any moment. No case of rabies has been notified in the borough of Portsmouth, but the Regulations referred to are applied to Portsmouth and district on account of the proximity of Southampton, which is a badly infected centre. It is not possible to say, at the present moment, when the Portsmouth district will be freed from the operation of the Order. No district, however, is kept under restrictions longer than is necessary for safety.
Naval History of the War
asked the First Lord of the Admiralty when the second volume of the Naval History of the War will be published; and with exactly what period will it deal?
The second volume of the Naval History of the War will be published in the autumn of this year. It will deal with naval operations in all theatres from December, 1914, following on the battle of the Falklands, to May, 1915, inclusive.
Oil-Carrying Vessels
asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Admiralty how many oil-carrying and other merchant steamers are at present being built in Royal yards; whether such steamers are being built for private owners under contract, at a fixed price, or on time and material basis; whether any of the vessels now being built are unsold; if so, how many are still unsold; and when are they expected to be completed?
Four oil carrying vessels are being built in the Royal Dockyards. Of these, two are being built for Admiralty service and two for private owners, under contract at fixed prices. The approximate dates of completion for the vessels are as follow:—
For Admiralty Service:
"Olna," about September, 1921.
"Oleander," about April, 1922.
For Private Owners:
"Nassa," about March, 1922.
"Nobia," about April, 1922.
Married Men (Travelling Facilities)
asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Admiralty whether steps will be taken to permit of married naval ratings who are desirous of travelling with their wives and families on occasions when leave is granted, i.e., Christmas, Easter, etc., to do so by the ordinary passenger traffic instead of compelling the men to travel by special train and their wives and families by themselves; and whether he is aware that, while special travelling arrangements are necessary when leave is granted to large bodies of men, the number of married men affected is small, and would not entail any dislocation on the part of the railway arrangements?
The hon. Member will realise that special arrangements have to be made with the railway companies beforehand to cope with the sudden large increase of passengers, that without such arrangements the ordinary trains would be quite inadequate, and that the men would be unable to get away on the dates when their leave commences. To ascertain beforehand the number of married men in any particular party who might wish to travel by ordinary train with their families might involve difficulties, but I will make inquiry as to the practical possibility of adopting the hon. Member's suggestion.
Chief Petty Officers (Gloves and Cap Badge)
asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Admiralty when and where the opinion of the chief petty officers was obtained on the suitability of the new pattern chief petty officers' cap badge; and whether the opinion expressed was favourable or adverse?
I regret that the reply I gave to the hon. Member on the 20th April was based on a misapprehension. The badge was decided upon by the Board of Admiralty in the usual way. It was, in fact, discussed by representatives of the men who came up to the Admiralty, and was the subject of some criticism by them; but it was decided not to make a change in the pattern of the badge as the result of their representations.
asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Admiralty whether any other requests advanced by the advisory members of the 1919 Welfare Committee were omitted from Admiralty monthly Order 2359/20, in addition to the request for white woollen gloves for chief petty officers?
Neither the request to which the hon. Member refers nor any other request dealt with by the Committee was omitted from Admiralty Monthly Order 2359/20.
Application for Discharge (Stoker Kane)
asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Admiralty whether he has now considered the appeal of Stoker John Kane, of H.M. Submarine U 126, H.M.S. "Vernon," Portsmouth, for discharge on compassionate grounds, submitted to him on 18th April, and the same man s appeal for leave to visit his wife, owing to her dangerous state of health, submitted to him on 25th April; and whether he will give an early decision on both these appeals?
The King's Regulations require that no communication on subjects connected with the Naval Service, or with his particular duties or present or future employment, is to be made by any person in the Fleet, except through the proper channels to the Admiralty or to the Commanders-in-Chief abroad. This Regulation is necessary both in the interests of naval discipline and in those of justice. No application for the free discharge of Stoker Kane has been received in the Admiralty in accordance with these Regulations. If a recommendation for his release from the Service is received through the usual Service channels it will be duly considered, but it is naturally impossible to guarantee in advance that it will be granted. In the meantime the medical certificates and other documents forwarded to me in support of the case by the hon. Member have been transmitted to the Commander-in-Chief, Portsmouth, with a request that the proper procedure may be pointed out to Kane by his Commanding Officer. The question of granting or withholding leave of absence rests entirely with the local naval authorities.
Royal Dockyards (Discharges)
asked the First Lord of the Admiralty whether the Admiralty have decided to discharge 10,000 men from Portsmouth and other dockyards at the rate of 200 per week; if he is aware of the grave dissatisfaction that has been caused in Portsmouth and other dockyard centres about the matter; that 2,500 temporary men have already been discharged from Portsmouth; and if he can give any reasons for such wholesale discharges?
As indicated in the First Lord's statement explanatory of the Navy Estimates, the number of workmen employed in the Royal Dockyards is being gradually reduced from the inflated total of the War period to a figure—43,000—which represents the number of men for whom full-time employment on naval work is provided in this financial year. It may be observed that this number is largely in excess of the numbers employed in the dockyards in the years preceding the War. To reach this figure it is necessary to make reductions at not less than the rate stated in the hon. Member's question. At Portsmouth the number of men engaged temporarily under the short time scheme in all establishments was approximately 2,500, but, of these, only 355 had been discharged up to the end of last week. It will be necessary to discharge the remainder as and when it becomes impossible to provide suitable work for them. I can only add that the Admiralty greatly regret the hardships which may be involved in the process of making these adjustments to meet the post War naval requirements.
Dockyaed Pensioners, Devonport
asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Admiralty whether he is aware that many of the Civil Service pensioners in Plymouth, more particularly in connection with the Dockyard, have not yet received the amount due to them on the increased pensions scale from 1st April, 1920, and that some of them have made repeated applications for this increase; and whether he will take steps to have this matter adjusted at the earliest possible date?
Except in a small number of instances where the cases are, by reason of the receipt of old age pensions, specially complicated and the necessary investigation has not yet been completed, all pensioners, formerly employed at His Majesty's Dockyard, Devonport, to whom the Pension Increase Act applies, have been granted from the 1st April, 1920, the increase of pension for which they have been found to be eligible. It is possible, however, that the hon. Member has in mind cases to which the Act does not directly apply and where further authority is necessary. This matter is at present under discussion, and it is hoped that a decision will be given shortly.
Medical Boards,
asked the Minister of Pensions whether there has been any joining together of medical appeal boards; if so, for what purpose; and under what powers such has been done?
The answer to the first part of the question is in the negative. Perhaps my hon. Friend has in mind an administrative arrangement by which, in certain large areas, a number of boards may be grouped for supervision under one Deputy-Commissioner for Medical Services, each board, however, retaining its own chairman.
Disability Pensions
asked the Minister of Pensions if he is aware that Private John Kempson, No. 262859, late gunner Royal Field Artillery, was an inmate of the Whinney House Hospital, Shotley Bridge, County Durham, and under treatment by the Army authorities; was also an Army pensioner until he was removed by the relieving officer of that union on the request of the pension authorities to the Durham County Asylum from the 27th February, 1920, to 13th July, 1920; that the pension authorities have disclaimed liability for maintenance, and that the whole costs so far have fallen on the local rates, which is strongly resented by the Lanchester Board of Guardians, which they consider unjust; and if he will see that this liability is paid by the Government and not by the local ratepayers, as in the opinion of the Board of Guardians the illness was entirely due to military service?
The Pension Appeal Tribunal have found that the mental disability in this case was not due to or aggravated by service, and consequently the Ministry of Pensions cannot charge itself with the cost of the man's maintenance in the Durham County Asylum. I may add that the pension which was awarded to Private Kempson on his discharge from the Army was in respect of an entirely different disability. It has now ceased to be payable, the aggravation of that disability by service having passed away.
asked the Minister of Pensions whether, in the case of Ableseaman David Newall, J/1697, who was discharged on 15th September, 1920, through defective eyesight, this defect was caused by submarine service; and, if so, whether a pension has been refused?
Pension has been refused in this case on the ground that the disability was not due to or aggravated by service. This was the finding of the Naval Invaliding Board, and it was confirmed by the Ministry's medical assessors and subsequently by the Pensions Appeal Tribunal.
Appeal (Private Ensell)
asked the Attorney General whether Private A. Ensell, No. 24520, Royal Army Service Corps, now residing at 59, Penfold Street, Darlaston, recently appeared before the appeal tribunal; whether he was not allowed to speak; and whether his appeal was dismissed?
I am informed that Private Ensell, 24520, R.A.S.C., residing at 59, Penfold Street, Darlaston, appeared before a pensions appeal tribunal on the 8th April, 1921, accompanied by his solicitor, and that every opportunity was given to Mr. Ensell to say anything he wished. He was examined in the usual way by the members of the tribunal and by his solicitor. After considering the whole of the evidence the tribunal disallowed the appeal.
Appeal Tribunals
asked the Attorney General the number of pensions appeal tribunals that have been set up and the number to which disabled men have actually been appointed?
I am informed that up to the present 12 pensions appeal tribunals for non-commissioned officers and men, and two for officers, have been set up, and that further tribunals are in the course of formation. All service members comply with the conditions laid down in the Schedule to the War Pensions (Administrative Provisions) Act, 1919. An ex-officer never sits as service member except on a tribunal appointed to hear the appeals of officers.
London, Tilbury and Southend Railway (Excess Fare)
asked the Minister of Transport whether he is aware that passengers travelling on the Midland, London, Tilbury, and Southend Railway to Laindon and desiring to continue their journey to Pitsea are being charged an excess fare of 9d.; that the legal pre-War rate was 2d.; whether this new charge is in conformity with the decisions of the Rates Advisory Committee; and, if not, will he take steps to rectify this matter?
It appears that under the London, Tilbury and Southend Railway Act, 1882, Section 32, the company are empowered to charge fares to Pitsea and beyond, based on the mileage distance calculated via Tilbury, and on a throughout journey from London the difference between the fare to Laindon and Pitsea is 9d., although the local fare between the two stations is only 3½d. I am having further inquiries made and will afterwards communicate with the hon. Member.
Transport Bill
asked the Minister of Transport whether he intends to ask the House to take the Second reading of the Transport Bill before the Whitsun recess?
It is hoped to introduce this Bill before Whitsuntide.
Road Maintenance (Grants)
asked the Minister of Transport when it is proposed to pay to the local authorities the grant of 50 per cent. and 25 per cent. of cost of upkeep of first-class and second-class roads; and whether any conditions will be attached to the payment of these grants?
It is intended that the grants shall be paid in quarterly instal- ments, and I hope the first instalment will be paid to highway authorities in England and Wales during the month of July and to highway authorities in Scotland during August and September. The condition attached to the payment of these grants is that the estimates of expenditure shall be approved by the Ministry of Transport.
Austria and Germany
asked the Prime Minister whether the British Government has associated iself with the French Government in informing the Austrian Government that, if it does not nullify the present agitation in Austria for union with Germany, a stop will be put to the arrangements for assisting Austria; and, if so, whether it is the intention of the Government to make the economic recovery of Austria dependent upon its Government preventing the Austrian people from expressing a desire with regard to their own political future?
I can only refer the hon. Member to the replies which I gave to similar questions by the hon. Members for Bedwelty (Mr. Charles Edwards) and Acton (Sir H. Brittain) on the 25th instant.
Anglo-Japanese Treaty
asked the Prime Minister whether the Chinese representative on the Council of the League of Nations submitted to the Council any note or observations on the Anglo Japanese treaty of alliance; whether this note will be published; and whether the modification of the Clauses of the Treaty affecting China are now under the consideration of the British and Japanese Governments?
The answer to the first part of the question is in the negative; the second therefore does not arise. As regards the third, the whole matter is now under the consideration of His Majesty's Government.
Passports and Visas
asked the Under-Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether he is aware that the Council of the League of Nations approved the proposals of the Paris Conference relating to uniform charges for passports and visas; whether the British Government are in favour of the proposals; and, if so, what have they done to obtain the adherence of other governments?
I am aware that the Council of the League of Nations has approved of the Paris Conference relating to uniform charges for passports and visas. The British Government are in favour of the proposals, and propose to put them into force forthwith. It is hoped that other Governments who were represented at the Conference will take similar action, as presumably they have been communicated with on the subject by the League of Nations.
Licensing Bill
asked the Prime Minister if, failing an agreed Bill dealing with licensing reform, the Government intends to bring in a Bill dealing with the question next Session?
It is the hope of the Government that this question may be dealt with by general agreement next Session, and having regard to the success which has attended efforts to secure agreement on other contentious subjects in recent years, I see no ground at present for anticipating the failure of our hopes.
Defence Force
asked the Prime Minister what is the number at present enrolled in the Defence Corps; what is the cost of its maintenance per week; and what duties has it performed?
My right hon. Friend has asked me to reply. The approximate strength of the Defence Force (including officers) is 80,000. The estimated weekly cost is £400,000. Up to the present, portions of the Force have been employed on protection duties at Government Depots and other vulnerable points, and also, at the request of the civil power, on protection duties in certain colliery districts.
asked the Secretary of State for War if he will give the number of military forces at present engaged on and about the premises of the Yorkshire Electric Power Company at Dewsbury; for what purpose these duties are being performed; at whose request and upon whose authority these forces are being so employed; upon whom the cost of these services will fall; and whether, having regard to the fact that the presence of these forces is quite unnecessary in that neighbourhood, he will arrange for them to be removed?
A guard of one platoon from a Defence Force unit was mounted at the Electrical Power Station mentioned, on the 20th April for the purpose of protection in response to a request from the Chief Constable, Dewsbury.
asked the Secretary of State for War what action he intends taking on the letter received from Sir I. Owen, Vice-Chancellor of the University of Bristol, which points out the importance of university students being released from the Defence Force at the earliest possible moment?
asked the Secretary of State for War whether he will take measures to secure the prompt demobilisation of those university students who are still retained by their colonels in the battalions of the Defence Force, when the large majority of such persons have been granted leave to return to their studies and examinations, as cases of great hardship are being reported by university authorities?
It is not possible to give leave to students from the Defence Force without, at the same time, giving leave to others who may desire it on urgent grounds. It is hoped, however, that the present negotiations will lead to a speedy settlement, when steps will be taken to demobilise the Defence Force.
"Save the Mines" (Leaflet)
asked the Home Secretary whether his attention has been called to a leaflet, entitled "Save the Mines," which is being widely circulated, and which does not bear the name and address of the printer; whether those responsible for its distribution are guilty of an infringement of the Act dealing with imprints; and whether any proceedings have been taken against them?
The leaflet entitled "Save the Mines" was printed in the Government Printing Works at Harrow at the public cost and it bears the Harrow imprint. In regard to the second part of the question I would refer the hon. Member to 2 and 3 Vict., Ch. 12, sec. 4. The answer to the last part of the question is in the negative.
Official Printed Matter (Cost)
asked the President of the Board of Trade if he is now in a position to state the cost of publishing and circulating the pamphlet, "The Case for the Nation"?
The accounts for printing and circulation of official matter in connection with the present emergency have not been completed.
Foreign Coal
asked the Prime Minister whether the exclusion of foreign coal, while financially beneficial to the mineowners, must be vitally injurious to the whole nation; whether he is aware of the avowal of the executive of the Federation of Transport Workers that they had sent telegrams to kindred organisations to cause the workers in Europe and America to stop all coal supplies for Great Britain; that this has been done in direct defiance of Regulation 19 of the Emergency Regulations, which lays down that any person is guilty of an offence who attempts or does any act calculated or likely to impede, delay, or restrict any measures taken for securing and regulating the supply or distribution of fuel; and whether the Government has been furnished with copies of the communications sent out by the executive to the International Transport Workers' Conference at Geneva and the American longshoremen urging the blockade and starvation of this country in regard to coal supplies?
I have been asked to reply. In the event of the stoppage continuing, there can be no question but that the exclusion of foreign coal must be gravely injurious to the nation, seeing that services essential to the life of the community cannot be maintained indefinitely out of the stocks of coal avail- able when work ceased in the pits. I have seen in the Press the statements referred to as to the action of the Federation of Transport Workers, but until more precise information has been received on the subject, it would be unwise to express any opinion on the latter part of my hon. and gallant Friend's question.
Damage to Pits
asked the Secretary for Mines if he will arrange, whatever the outcome of the strike, for an official report on the damage to the pits, both in volume and cost, so that the public may realise for their guidance in future what a policy of this nature entails?
I shall be glad to consider my hon. Friend's suggestion when it is possible to form some estimate of the extent of the damage.
Coal Shortage, Manchester
asked the President of the Board of Trade if he is aware that many householders in Manchester are entirely without coal and find it impossible to obtain any; is he also aware that, in view of the general belief that there are ample stocks of coal at the pit-heads, this state of affairs is causing grave dissatisfaction; and will he give instructions that equitable distribution of these Supplies is made to those districts so urgently in need of coal?
I would remind the hon. Member that no coal may be supplied except in pursuance of a permit from the local authority, and that, in view of the limited supplies available, a recommendation has been issued that such permits should not be granted except where there is no other means of cooking food, or in cases of illness or infirmity. Special assistance has, however, been given to Manchester from stocks of coal held elsewhere, and the further needs of that city will be borne in mind.
Bulgarian Naval and Merchant Ships
asked the Prime Minister whether the ships of the Bulgarian Navy have been destroyed or distributed; if so, in what proportions; whether the Bulgarian commercial fleet has been distributed or is to be distri- buted among the Allied and Associated Powers; and, if so, in what proportions?
The vessels of the Bulgarian Navy have, with two exceptions, been left in Bulgarian hands, the majority being damaged or worthless.
The ships left in Bulgarian hands are as follow:—
( a ) Four torpedo boats, first class, of which three are damaged. They are to be used for police purposes and armament is to be limited to one light gun.
( b ) Six motor boats, of which four are damaged.
The exceptions are one gunboat, which is being sold for the joint benefit of the Allies, and one submarine, which has been allocated to, and will be sold for the benefit of, Great Britain. The Treaty of Peace with Bulgaria makes no provision for the distribution of her commercial fleet among the Allied and Associated Powers.
German Reparation
asked the Prime Minister whether the Reparations Commission has reported to the Allied and Associated Governments that Germany has been guilty of voluntary default under the reparations provisions of the Treaty of Versailles; if so, in what the alleged voluntary default consists; and whether the Commission has made any recommendations as to the action to be taken against Germany?
I have already given full information to the House as to the German defaults under the Treaty of Versailles.
asked the Prime Minister whether, under paragraph 12, Annex II, Part VIII, of the Treaty of Versailles, the Reparation Commission has authority to interpret the provisions of that part of the Treaty; and, if so, whether the Reparation Commission has reported that the measures referred to in paragraph 18 of the Annex include a further occupation of German territory, and that such measures can be taken by individual Governments, acting alone, without the concurrence of the other Allied and Associated Governments?
The answer to the first part of the question is in the affirmative; the answer to the remainder is in the negative.
asked the Prime Minister the total amount of the payments made in money or in goods by the German Government to His Majesty's Government under the Treaty of Versailles and the Armistice Agreement?
I would refer the hon. Member to the reply given by my right hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer to a similar question by the hon. Member for Stoke Newington (Mr. G. Jones) on the 28th February last. It is not possible at the moment to give any later figures.
asked the Prime Minister whether the Reparation Commission has determined the amount of the damage for which Germany is liable under the Treaty of Versailles and notified the same to the German Government; and, if so, the amount?
The Reparation Commission yesterday unanimously fixed the total of Germany's obligations under Article 233 of the Treaty at 132 milliard gold marks (£6,600,000,000 gold). This total is exclusive of the sum due in reimbursement of Belgium's debt to the Allied and Associated Powers assumed by Germany under Article 232, the amount of which will be the subject of a subsequent decision. (I understand that this amount is in the neighbourhood of £250,000,000.) The decision of the Reparation Commission has been conveyed to the German Government's Reparation Representative in Paris.
asked the Prime Minister the amount which has been delivered by Germany under Article 235 of the Treaty of Versailles; how much of this sum has been appropriated to the cost of the Armies of Occupation and to the cost of food and raw materials delivered to Germany; and how much has been reckoned towards liquidation of the amounts due for reparation?
I would refer the hon. Member to the reply which I gave to the hon. Member for the West Division of Leyton (Mr. Newbould) on the 4th instant.
asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he is aware that large consignments of German goods have been rushed into our ports in order to escape the imposition of the levy under the sanctions which came into force on the 14th of this month; and what is being done to secure the proper payment of the levy?
The Act does not apply to goods imported before 15th April under a contract entered into before 8th March.
asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he has received any complaints from Manchester regarding the action of the authorities in holding up in the Customs for the past three weeks goods from Germany; whether he is aware that the firm of Furness and Voyce have supplied documentary evidence and sworn testimony that the goods consigned to them were ordered before 8th March; that the goods referred to are artificial flowers already sold, but being seasonable goods if not released at once will be left on the hands of the importers; that the Customs authorities have refused to release the goods except on receipt of the total amount charged against them under the German Reparation (Recovery) Act; and whether, in view of the fact that the firm have already paid in full for the goods and cannot afford to pay the extra amount demanded by the Customs authorities, he will have immediate inquiries made into the matter?
The Board of Customs and Excise have not received any complaints from Manchester on this subject, but I may say that in the case of goods claimed to be exempt from the operation of the German Reparation (Recovery) Act, by virtue of a contract entered into before the 8th March, the Board made arrangements from the outset whereby delivery could be obtained, pending examination of the evidence, on the importer entering into a bond to pay the amount of the levy should he fail to substantiate his claim. Messrs. Furness and Voyce have claimed the benefit of the exemption referred to in respect of certain importations, and were informed by the Board on the 16th instant of the possibility of obtaining delivery under bond without making a cash payment.
Occupied Territory (Senegalese Troops)
asked the Under-Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs how many French negro troops are at present stationed in Europe; and upon what date were the last of these troops withdrawn from the occupied areas in Germany?
I have been asked to reply. I am informed that there are no French negro troops at present stationed in Europe except two battalions of Senegalese at Constantinople. French Senegalese troops were withdrawn from the occupied area in Germany in April, 1920.
Visas (Finns)
asked the Under-Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether applications for visas by Finns to visit this country are ever, and, if so, when, submitted to Mr. Donner, the Finnish agent in London, with the result that those Finns of whom the present Finnish Government disapproves are not permitted by the British Government to come to England?
I have already given my hon. and gallant Friend a definite assurance on this point.
Basle and Strasburg (Projected Canal)
asked the Under-Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what decision was come to at the recent meeting of the Central Rhine Commission in regard to the construction of the proposed canal between Basle and Strasburg; if any of the British representatives on this Commission are engineers and fully able to consider the technical points in the construction of the proposed canal; if they have special qualifications for securing that the large British commercial interests involved are properly safeguarded at all stages of the construction of the canal; the estimated time which would be occupied in the construction of the canal; and will he draw the attention of the British representatives to the importance of not only maintaining the present facilities of the river channel, but at once improving and regularising that channel for the benefit of shipping desirous of using the all-water route between Great Britain and Switzerland?
The proposal to construct a lateral canal on the left bank of the Rhine, between Basle and Strasburg, was referred by the Central Rhine Commission to a committee of seven members, of which the British representative was appointed president. An expert engineering adviser has been appointed to assist the British delegation, the Members of which are, in the opinion of His Majesty's Government, fully competent to secure proper consideration of the British commercial interests involved. It has been estimated that the projected canal would take at least 25 years to construct in its entirety. The committee will also consider the best means of improving and regularising the present river channel on that portion of the Rhine.
Emigration (Peru)
asked the Under-Secretary of State for Foreigin Affairs whether his attention has been called to the circumstances under which a number of British emigrants to Peru returned recently to this country, many of them in a state of destitution on account of the promises of employment in Peru not having been fulfilled; whether he is aware that many of the emigrants, having sold their homes and belongings before leaving this country, are now homeless and destitute; and whether, if the Peruvian Government is responsible for the deception practised on the emigrants, compensation will be demanded for the loss and hardship they have endured and an allowance made pending the settlement of the amount of compensation to those emigrants, who are in urgent need of assistance?
I have been asked to reply to this question. My attention has been called to this matter and representations have already been made to the Peruvian Government with the object of securing the payment of compensation at an early date to those who have suffered losses through the breakdown of the Peruvian emigration scheme. I would also refer the hon. Member to the answers returned to previous questions on this subject; particularly to my answer to the two questions asked on the 25th instant by the hon. Members for Mansfield (Mr. W. Carter) and Stratford (Mr. Lyle).
Children of Foreign-Born Parents (De-Nationalisation)
asked the Under-Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether, in view of the increasing urgency of the question arising from the de-nationalisation of the children of British fathers, such fathers being born in a foreign country, owing to the fact that they cannot be registered as British subjects, attention will be given to this question, either by raising the matter at the forthcoming Imperial Cabinet, or by such other effective step as will remove this injustice to these children?
The question is receiving urgent consideration, in consultation with the other Departments concerned.
Economical Foods (Pamphlet)
asked the Minister of Health when it is proposed to issue the educational food leaflet, the draft of which was submitted early in March, with a memorial on this subject from medical, scientific, health, and other associations; and will he deal with the matter as one of urgent importance, having regard to the present general distress and the consequent necessity for disseminating knowledge of healthy, nourishing, and economical foods?
The matter is receiving attention, and I will see whether any useful purpose can be served by issuing any such pamphlet.
Small-Pox (Vaccination)
asked the Minister of Health, in view of the statement contained on page 219 of the annual report of the chief medical officer of the Ministry for the year 1919–20 that cases of small-pox do not occur after recent successful re-vaccination, if he will state how recent re-vaccination should be in order to be absolutley protective; and what are the characteristics represented by the word successful?
I am advised that the protection against small-pox infection by efficient vaccination is practically absolute during the early years following the operation, and that in the great majority of cases the protection remains effective up to the tenth or eleventh year after vaccination. The evidence of successful vaccination is the production at the seat of inoculation of the characteristic lesions followed by well-defined marks.
Boundary Extensions, Leeds and Bradford
asked the Minister of Health whether, in considering the Report of the inspector of the Ministry of Health on the Leeds and Bradford extension schemes, he will have due regard to the emphatically expressed opinion of the Kintore Committee on the Birkenhead extension scheme that sanction should not be given to extension schemes in opposition to the clearly expressed wish of the inhabitants of the districts affected by them?
The opinion actually expressed by the Kintore Committee was that subject to special considerations of public advantage the substantial support of the ratepayers in areas proposed to be incorporated should be a condition precedent to an extension. It is the invariable practice of the Department to give most careful consideration to the views of local authorities and the general public in the areas concerned, but considerations of economy and efficiency in local government must clearly have the first place.
Wages (Messrs. Chapman, Puckeridge)
asked the Minister of Health whether his Department have received a letter from the Region Department, Buchanan Buildings, asking for information as to the reasons why Messrs. Chapman, of Puckeridge, refuse to pay their labourers the district rate of wages, as this firm are paying 4d. per hour less than good employers in the district; and, if so, what action he proposes to take?
I am informed that the employers mentioned are the only contractors carrying out building work in the district. I am not aware, therefore, on what ground it is suggested that they are paying less than good employers in the district. In case the hon. Member has any further information, I should be glad if he would bring it to my notice.
Willesden
asked the Minister of Health whether he is aware that in the Willesden area there were 1,200 applications for the first 30 houses completed; whether the Ministry have refused sanction for the building of more than 190 houses; whether he is aware that in the parish of St. John's, Kilburn, 400 families live in basements, paying a rent of 11s. 3d. a week for two rooms; that in a large proportion of cases there are four or five families living in one house; and that there is one house in which 59 persons are living; and will he have these matters inquired into?
I have refused to approve of a tender for 76 houses at Willesden, because I consider the price too high. Contracts have already been made by the Council for the erection of 199 houses; and I hope that these houses will be completed with the utmost despatch. If the Noble Lord will give me particulars of the cases of overcrowding to which he refers, I will have inquiries made.
Crown Forces
asked the Secretary of State for War what has been the cost of the maintenance of the Crown forces in the martial law areas in Ireland since the declaration of martial law?
This information is not available.
asked the Secretary of State for War what is the cost of the maintenance of the Army in Ireland during the year ended 31st March, 1921?
The cost is estimated at approximately £13,500,000, inclusive of capital charges and pensions.
asked the Secretary of State for War the numbers and cost per month of the military forces in Ireland at the present time?
I do not think in the present circumstances it is desirable to give the number of the military forces in Ireland. The monthly cost is approximately £1,250,000.
Casualties and Arrests
asked the Chief Secretary what were the total casualties to Crown forces and civilians, respectively during the week 10th to 23rd; and what captures were made by the forces of the Crown and the Sinn Fein forces, respectively?
The casualties to the Crown forces during the period in question were 18 police and two military killed, 36 police and 11 military wounded, and two police taken prisoners, of whom one was disarmed and released and the other subsequently rescued by a party of Crown forces. In addition a district inspector is missing and his fate is still unknown. Civilian casualties, including rebel casualties so far as they can be ascertained, were 27 killed, 32 wounded, and nine rebels were taken prisoners in armed conflicts.
asked the Chief Secretary whether any inquiry has taken place in the death of a young man named Joseph Taylor, at Glencar, on the 27th February last; and, if so, what was the result of the inquiry?
The finding of the military court of inquiry in lieu of inquest in this case was that the deceased was shot and mortally wounded by the police while attempting to escape from custody, and that no blame on account of his death attaches to police who fired in the execution of their duty.
Murders and Outrages
asked the Chief Secretary the number of women murdered, kidnapped, and wounded, respectively, by Sinn Feiners in Ireland since 1st January, 1921?
The numbers are:—
Murdered … … 4 Wounded … … 5 Kidnapped … … 3
These figures are exclusive of women who have been killed or injured as the result of bomb attacks made upon police and military lorries in the streets of Cork and Dublin and of attacks made upon railway trains carrying civilian passengers.
asked the Chief Secretary whether he has received the reports of the inquiries made into the treatment at the hands of Crown forces of the following persons elected to represent Irish people, namely, Councillor W. Allen, of Tipperary, who was visited at his business premises on 23rd October by auxiliary police, who flogged him and his son; County Councillor P. Forde, Loughrea, County Galway, who was taken from his bed and beaten by constabulary on 1st November; Councillor J. Brennan, who was taken from his bed at Kilkerrin, County Galway, and beaten by constabulary on 5th November and sent home naked; County Councillor J. Harte, of Leitrim, who was taken from his bed by constabulary and beaten on 5th November; Councillor W. O'Grady, of Rathdrum, County Wicklow, who was taken from his bed and flogged by constabulary on 18th December; and Councillor W. Loughrey, Killala, County Mayo, who was taken from his bed at 2 a.m. on 28th January and flogged by the constabulary, who beat him about the head and shoulders with Indian clubs belonging to his children; and, if so, whether he is prepared to make any statement with regard to them?
All the incidents mentioned in the question occurred several months ago, and I have therefore called for a fresh report in each case, giving the results of the investigations made since the case was first reported. If the hon. Member will repeat the question on Thursday of next week I hope that I shall then be in a position to furnish him with a reply.
asked the Chief Secretary whether any inquest or inquiry has been held into the deaths of James Mons, a Protestant farmer, and Patrick Conry, a farmer's son, who were taken from their homes at Castlerea, County Roscommon, by Crown forces after midnight on 6th April, and whose bodies were subsequently found dead riddled with bullets in a field; and, if so, what was the result?
Military Courts of Inquiry in lieu of inquests have been held to investigate the circumstances of the death of James Mons and Patrick Conry. In each case the Court found that the deceased was killed by a person or persons unknown, against whom they returned a verdict of wilful murder.
asked the Chief Secretary whether any members of the Crown forces have been dismissed or punished in respect of the fallowing offences: the burning of Lahinch and the murder of Joseph Sammon in September last, the burning of Ennistymon and the murders of Connole and Lynch, the burning of O'Brien's Bridge and violence to women and children in November, the burning of Feákle in October, the two murders at Balbriggan, the burning of creameries, and the shooting of the inn proprietor at Castle Connell?
If the hon. and gallant Member will repeat next Thursday this question, which involves a number of separate inquiries, and of which I received notice only the day before yesterday, I will endeavour to furnish him with a reply.
asked the Chief Secretary whether the postmaster of Navan was recently murdered; and, if so, whether he can give the circumstances attending the crime?
The military court of inquiry in lieu of inquest held into the circumstances of this man's death found that he was wilfully murdered by some person or persons unknown. According to the evidence given at the inquiry, Mr. Hodgett was taken out of his house in Navan by a party of unknown men on the night of the 17th–18th February, and his body was discovered in the river below the Blackwater Bridge on the 25th ultimo. I regret to state that the police investigations, which are still proceeding, have not yet resulted in any arrests being made in connection with this crime.
asked the Chief Secretary whether the house of Mr. David Clancy, of Kilfinane, county Cork, was destroyed in the month of February by military or police as a reprisal for the burning of an aeroplane which had descended close by; and whether, in view of the admission by the police that the house was burnt without authority, the £900 compensation awarded by Judge Lawsmith at the Limerick Quarter Sessions will be paid by the Treasury?
This incident is still the subject of inquiry. As regards, the last part of the question, I would refer the hon. Member to the reply given by my right hon. Friend the Attorney-General to the hon. Member for Wolverhampton East (Mr. G. Thorne) on the 14th instant.
Disturbances, Ballymacelligott
asked the Chief Secretary the result of the trial by court-martial of the men concerned in the incidents at Ballymacelligott on 12th November last?
I have nothing to add to the reply which I gave to the similar question asked by my hon. Friend on Tuesday, the 19th instant.
"Weekly Summary."
asked the Chief Secretary whether Mr. Basil Clark admits or denies that he is the editor of "Weekly Summary"; whether there is any person named Darling engaged in Dublin Castle; and, if so, in what capacity?
As I have already explained in reply to previous questions on the subject, this publication is prepared by the police authorities in Dublin for distribution to the police in Ireland. As regards the remainder of the question, I presume the hon. and gallant Member is referring to Captain Darling, M. C., who is employed in the office of the Chief of Police.
Captain Hardy
asked the Chief Secretary whether Captain Hardy is still engaged in any duties in Dublin Castle; if not, whether he has been transferred to any other, and, if so, what public Department; whether he has been at any time during his service in Dublin Castle under arrest, and, if so, under what circumstances; and whether this is the same Captain Hardy who is accused of having threatened and ill-treated Father Dominic and Father Albert when under arrest?
In regard to the first, second, and third parts of this question, I would refer the hon. and gallant Member to the replies given to previous questions concerning this officer in which the same points have been raised. In regard to the last part, I have no knowledge of the accusations referred to by the hon. and gallant Member.
Executions
asked the Chief Secretary whether he has had brought to his notice a document, publicly circulated and in the form of a funeral card, commemorating the death of six men: Patrick Moran, Thomas Whelan, Francis Flood, Bernard Ryan, Thomas Bryan, and Patrick Doyle, executed in March, 1921; whether he is aware that this document asserts that these men were innocent of any crime; and for what crimes they were executed?
Inquiries have been made, but, so far as can be ascertained, no funeral card containing an assertion that these men were innocent is being publicly circulated. With regard to the latter part of the question, Patrick Moran was executed for the murder of Lieutenants Bennett and Aimes at 38, Upper Mount Street, Dublin, on the 21st November, 1920, and Thomas Whelan for the murder of Captain Baggally at 117, Lower Baggott Street, Dublin, on the same date. Francis Flood, Bernard Ryan, Thomas J. Bryan, and Patrick Doyle, were executed for levying war against His Majesty at Drumcondra, on the 21st January, 1921.
Fires, Ballymacelligot
asked the Chief Secretary whether he has received a Report of the burning, by the forces of the Crown, on Friday last, at Ballymacelligot, of a creamery, five farmhouses, a parochial house, and a cottage; whether these burnings followed immediately after the murder in the neighbourhood of Major Mackinnon; whether they were by order of His Majesty's Government; and, if so, why these particular buildings were selected for destruction?
I am still awaiting a report from the Commander in Chief with reference to this matter.
Auxiliary Division, Royal Irish Constabulary
asked the Chief Secretary whether his attention has been called to the fact that the Prime Minister has stated publicly, in his letter to the Bishop of Chelmsford, the exact figures as to the strength and distribution of the Auxiliary Division of the Royal Irish Constabulary; and whether, in view of his statement that it was not in the public interest under present conditions to give information with regard to the strength of the Royal Irish Constabulary, he can say whether the Prime Minister consulted his Department before issuing his letter to the Press?
The total numerical strength of the Auxiliary Division had already been disclosed in replies to questions in this House before information showing the need in the public interest of greater reticence in such matters had come into the Government's possession. Such information was given in the Prime Minister's letter with regard to the counties in Ireland where companies of the Division are stationed is obviously of a character that admits of no concealment, even if concealment were desirable. In regard to the last part of the question, the hon. Member may rest assured that the Department for which my right hon. Friend the Chief Secretary is responsible is consulted by the Prime Minister on all matters with which it is concerned.
asked the Chief Secretary whether the Auxiliary Division, Royal Irish Constabulary, are still entirely without any medical staff or ambulances; and whether, in view of the dangerous work and heavy casualties which their units are now sustaining, he will consult the Director of Medical Services as to the advisability of attaching to each company one motor ambulance, one medical non-commissioned officer, and two medical orderlies?
As stated by my right hon. Friend the Attorney General in reply to a question on this subject on the 14th instant, the Auxiliary Division is not provided with its own special medical transport, but ambulances and other necessaries of medical equipment are borrowed from the Regular Forces as and when required. I have inquired into the working of this arrangement, and am assured that it is found to answer satisfactorily as the whereabouts of neighbouring military stations are well known and can be communicated with easily in the event of casualties occurring.
Inquest, Thurles (Verdict)
asked the Chief Secretary whether any arrests have been made in connection with the murder of Mr. Lumley, of Holycross, near Thurles, in which a coroner's inquest returned a verdict of murder against the forces of the Crown?
No arrests have been made in connection with this man's death. The verdict returned by the jury at the coroner's inquest was completely at variance with the actual facts of the case. Lumley was shot owing to being caught in the line of fire of a party of police who had been fired upon, and were defending themselves from attack. Although it subsequently transpired that Lumley was not one of the ambushers, the responsibility for his death does not rest upon the police, who only fired in self-defence.
Looting Trim
asked the Chief Secretary from what funds the compensation given by General Crozier to those who had suffered from the looting at Trim was paid; and whether similar compensation can be paid to others who have suffered at the hands of the Crown forces?
No compensation from public funds has been made in this case, but I am informed that a member of the Auxiliary Division paid the sum of £30 out of his own pocket to one of the sufferers.
Police Expenditure, 1920–21
asked the Chief Secretary what was the expenditure on the Dublin Metropolitan Police, the Royal Irish Constabulary and the Auxiliary Division, respectively, in the year 1920–21; and whether he can give the monthly cost of these forces at the present time?
The expenditure on the Dublin Metropolitan Police for 1920–21 was £398,952; this figure, how- ever, being still subject to audit. The present monthly cost of that force is approximately £34,200. As regards the Royal Irish Constabulary and the Auxiliary Forces the expenditure for 1920/21 is not yet available, but it is believed that the figure will be approximately equal to the amount granted by Parliament for that year, namely, £6,093,214. The present monthly cost of the permanent Royal Irish Constabulary is about £430,000 and of the Auxiliary Forces about £155,000.
Courts of Inquiry
asked the Chief Secretary whether, in view of the sworn statement made by Captain Hardy at the trial of Captain King, that the evidence which he gave on oath at the trial differed from that which he gave at the secret military inquiry into the deaths of Murphy and Kennedy, he will see fit to publish the proceedings of the inquiry?
The trial of the three police officers for the murder of Murphy and Kennedy was held in public, and was fully reported in the Press. In these circumstances, I am not prepared to adopt the unusual course suggested in the question.
asked the Chief Secretary whether any inquest or military inquiry in lieu of inquest has been held on the body of Patrick Cloonan, of Maree, Oranmore, County Galway, who was taken from the house of Laurence Donoghue, for whom he worked, by members of the Crown forces at 3 a.m. on the 5th April, and shot by the seashore a quarter of a mile from his residence; and, if so, what was the result of the inquiry?
I have not yet received the report of the military Court of Inquiry in lieu of inquest in this case. If the hon. Member will kindly repeat the question, of which I received notice only yesterday, on Thursday of next week, I hope then to be able to furnish him with a reply.
asked the Chief Secretary whether any inquiry has yet been held into the circumstances which led to the death of Mr. O'Donovan, landlord of the Shannon Hotel, Castleconnel, on 17th April; and whether his attention has been drawn to the statements of an absolutely independent witness who was present at the hotel at the time, and is now in London, as to the state of discipline and general behaviour of the auxiliaries on this occasion?
A military Court of Inquiry is at present investigating the circumstances of Mr. O'Donovan's death.
Hostages on Lorries (Death)
asked the Chief Secretary whether he has yet received the Report of the court of inquiry which is investigating the circumstances under which a hostage on a police lorry was wounded; whether it is still part of the Government's policy to carry hostages on police or military lorries; and, if so, whether he will order that a record be kept of all occasions on which hostages are thus carried and of the circumstances attending each case?
I have not yet received the report of the court of inquiry in the case mentioned in the first part of the question. In regard to the latter part of the question, I would refer the hon. and gallant Member to the reply which I gave him on Thursday of last week.
asked the Chief Secretary when it is proposed to issue the report of the military inquiry held in lieu of inquest on the body of Christopher Reynolds, who was killed on the night of the 1st-2nd April while a prisoner in a motor lorry in charge of the forces of the Crown?
This inquiry is not yet completed. It was adjourned owing to the fact that several of the witnesses were also witnesses in another case, but I am informed that it will be resumed in the course of a few days.
Prisoner's Treatment (T. Barnett)
asked the Chief Secretary whether Thomas Barnett, of 14, Barrow Street, an employé at Boland's Mill, Dublin, was arrested last December; on what charge was he arrested; and was he afterwards admitted to Richmond lunatic asylum, Dublin, and certified as insane on 26th December, 1920?
The answer to the first and third parts of the question is in the affirmative. Barnett was arrested on suspicion of having taken part in the murder of a number of officers in Dublin on the 21st November, 1920.
asked the Chief Secretary whether he is aware that Thomas Barnett was visited at the Bridewell by his landlady, Mrs. Mann, who found him lying on the floor of the cell in a dying condition, scarcely able to speak and apparently in terrible fear; that at her urgent representation to the sergeant in charge of the Bridewell that he should be in hospital an officer in an armoured car removed him to Kilmainham gaol; and that Barnett was unable to walk at the time and was therefore carried to the car; and whether he will make any inquiry into this case?
Thomas Barnett was visited by his landlady in the Bridewell, as stated, but no other allegation in this question has any foundation in fact. In a written statement Mrs. Mann says that Barnett never made any complaint to her against his treatment in the Bridewell, and that she did not think he could complain, as he seemed to be well treated. She adds that she never complained to any person about his treatment because any such complaint would have been untrue. On the morning of the 21st December Barnett displayed symptoms of insanity, and he was therefore at once removed to Kilmainham. He was perfectly capable of walking, and did, in fact, walk to the car. I see no ground in the circumstances for making any further inquiry.
asked the Chief Secretary whether he is aware that Thomas Barnett was afterwards removed from Kilmainham to the George V Military Hospital; that he was then found to have a wound at the back of the head, blood round the eyes, and a number of bruises on the body; and, if so, how, and for what purpose, these injuries were inflicted?
This prisoner was admitted to King George V Hospital on 25th December, 1920. He was examined on admission by the commandant and by the medical officer on duty. He showed no sign of injury of any kind whatever.
Reported Bomb Explosion, Newbiggin-By-Sea
asked the Secretary of State for War if he is aware of a bomb exploding at Newbiggin-by-Sea, Northumberland; if so, what was the damage done, if any; was there any carelessness on anyone's part; and has compensation been paid to those who may have had their property damaged?
So far as can be traced, no report of any such explosion has been received in the War Office. If the hon. Member will furnish me with any details in his possession, I will have further inquiries made.
Special Reserve Officers (Pay)
asked the Secretary of State for War whether he is aware that officers of the Special Reserve have received no pay since they were called up on the occasion of the present national emergency; that they have been informed by their respective paymasters that they have no authority to issue pay, and by Messrs. Cox and Company that they are not acting as pay agents; and whether he will take immediate action to remedy this grievance?
Arrangements were made for advances to be issued to officers of the Special Reserve recalled during the present emergency, by Officers Commanding Units, Formations, etc., and subsequent payments to be made by Command Paymasters. Further instructions have now been issued to ensure that these arrangements are being carried out.
asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the War Office if an officer on the Reserve is called on, when mobilsed for service, to sacrifice the whole of his Reserve pay; whether, in the case of a major, this would reduce his pay for active service to a net sum, of about £330 per annum; and whether this is consistent with the principle that Reserve pay is deferred pay, an officer's claim to which is not affected by the question whether he resumes his service or not?
I presume my hon. Friend's question refers to re- tired pay. For the purposes of the present brief emergency, it was decided, after full consideration, that it would suffice to restore an officer called out to the full pay and allowances of his rank.
Official Secrets Act
asked the Secretary of State for War, in view of the fact that charges have been brought in a recently published book, "At the Supreme War Council," against Field-Marshal Sir William Robertson of having divulged the military plans of the Allies in Palestine for 1918, and in view of the fact that the Field-Marshal is not taking legal proceedings of any kind, whether he will bring the matter, including all evidence in the possession of the Government, before the Army Council in the interests of the Army?
I have nothing to add to the full replies already given by my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister on this subject.
Collision of Aeroplanes, Cairo
asked the Secretary of State for Air whether he can state the result of the official inquiry into the collision of two aeroplanes near Cairo whereby four men lost their lives; and whether it is possible by greater care to avoid these very regrettable occurrences?
The report of the inquiry which is being held on this case has not yet been received. Upon its receipt, I will communicate with my hon. Friend.
Bristol Aeroplane Company
asked the Secretary of State for Air whether he has now completed his inquiries into the allegations that the Bristol Aeroplane Company have discharged men workers and have reengaged women who were fully employed elsewhere, some women with husbands in employment; that such dismissed men are workless and have been compelled to seek help from the Lord Mayor of Bristol's Fund; and that as contractors to the Air Ministry this company is bound by the fair wage Clause and should be pressed to retain men workers in preference to engaging women already employed in domestic service and shops?
It has been found, as a result of the inquiries made in this case, that the company has not been guilty of any breach of the fair wages Clause. The firm has stated that the women in question were employed by them owing to the necessity for increasing the output of their trimming department, and are engaged entirely on women's work in connection with the machining and sewing of fabric. The rates of wages paid to the women are fully in accordance with the recognised district rates. The Air Ministry has no power to require contractors to engage unemployed men to perform what is essentially women's work, nor can they stipulate that no women, other than those who are unemployed and unmarried, shall be engaged for work on Air Ministry contracts.
Emigration (Land Settlement)
asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies whether he can supplement the official figures of 11,104 ex-service men settled on the land by the Government land settlement scheme with the figures of ex-service men who have left this country under arrangements with the Dominions or Crown Colonies for settlement on the land?
I have been asked to reply to this question. The total number of Imperial ex-service officers and men accepted up to date as suitable settlers by the Governments of the Dominions and Colonies is upwards of 23,000, the majority of whom have already proceeded overseas. It is calculated that at least 75 per cent. of this number intend to settle upon the land.
Industrial Training
asked the Minister of Pensions how many ex-service men have completed their training in institutions maintained by the Ministry; how many are now in training; and what is the number still awaiting admission into these training centres?
The number of men who have completed a course of combined treatment and training under the Ministry is approximately 900, and there are also 550 men at present awaiting transfer to the Ministry of Labour for further industrial training. The number of men now in training in the Ministry convalescent centres is 2,339. There are approximately 2,000 men on the waiting list, but this number will probably be reduced as the result of a re-examination for which arrangements are now being made.
asked the Minister of Labour if he is aware that in the summer of 1919 the Ministry of Labour took over from the Ministry of Pensions the industrial training of ex-service men, and shortly afterwards set up industrial training councils for various areas; that the war pensions committees, employment committees, and education authorities in the county of Essex were invited to nominate representatives to sit on the Essex Industrial Training Council, and from that time onwards much useful work has been performed by the council on behalf of ex-service men; that the council has now been disbanded by the Ministry of Labour; and the members of the council feel that this step has not been taken in the interests of ex-service men; whether a protest has been received from the West Ham Local War Pensions Committee; if he is aware that an application has been made to the Ministry of Labour to receive a deputation from the Essex Industrial Training Council; and if he will take action in the matter?
The facts are as stated in the question. A deputation from the Council is to be received at the Ministry of Labour to-day.
Royal Gunpowder Factory, Waltham Abbey (Discharges)
asked the Secretary of State for War whether among the employés at the Royal Gunpowder Factory, Waltham Abbey, who have been recently discharged, or who have been given notice of discharge, there are several ex-service men who have been, and in some cases are now, in receipt of disability pension; and whether it is not the intention of the War Office to retain ex-service men in the factory in preference to civilian employés who were only engaged since 1914?
Discharges at the Royal Gunpowder Factory, Waltham Abbey, are now taking place among pre-War employés, all other classes having left in the order already announced in the House. Men with shortest service are due for discharge first. I believe eight of these men are in receipt of Army disability pensions. There are no civilian employés in the factory who have been engaged subsequent to 1914. Three men of this class are employed in the office, whom it has not been found practicable to displace by any of the men due for discharge.
Customs and Excise (Appointments)
asked the Financial Secretary to the Treasury whether appointments as officers of Customs and Excise are being offered to 25 of the 113 ex-service men who passed the qualifying examination in December, 1920; whether similar appointments will be offered to the remaining 88 ex-service men as vacancies occur provided that their character and health are satisfactory; and whether he will give an assurance that this list of 88 ex-service men who passed the qualifying examination will be exhausted before a further examination is held for candidates who are not ex-service men?
Of the 168 men who passed the qualifying examination of last December and attended for interview, 55 were recommended by the Selection Board for appointment in reported vacancies for officers of Customs and Excise, and a further 25 candidates were considered by the Board to be qualified for appointments in that capacity. Appointments have been or will be offered to these 80 candidates, provided their health and character are satisfactory. The remaining 88 men were considered by the Selection Board not to be up to the standard required for posts of officers of Customs and Excise, and I am accordingly unable to give the assurance desired.
Severely Disabled Men (Employment)
asked the Minister of Labour when the Report of the Committee, presided over by the Parliamentary Secretary to the Labour Ministry, on the employment of severely disabled ex-soldiers will be presented to the House?
The Report of the Committee on the Employment of Severely Disabled Ex-Service Men, presided over by my hon. Friend the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Labour, was signed on Saturday last, 23rd April. No time will be lost in giving consideration to the recommendation made in the Report, but I cannot at present make any statement with regard to its publication.
Building Trade (Dilution)
asked the Minister of Labour what progress has so far been made with the Government scheme for the employment of ex-service men in the building trade; with what firm; and where the first ex-service man started work under the scheme?
asked the Minister of Labour how many applications from ex-service men under the Government building scheme have already been received; how many men are actually at work under this scheme; and in what districts?
Applications by ex-service men for employment under the scheme have already been received in considerable numbers, the total on the 23rd April being 5,453. In the London district 3,124 men have applied, and the following are the figures for other districts: Northern counties 56, North-Western 297, Yorkshire and East Midlands 418, West Midlands 476, South Midlands and Eastern counties 340, South-Eastern counties 253, South-Western 300, Scotland 140, Wales 49. Arrangements are being pushed forward actively for interviewing the applicants and allocating them to the trades in which they can be trained most suitably. The district committees which are to carry out these functions are already being formed rapidly in the principal centres, such as London, Glasgow, Edinburgh, Manchester, Leeds, Sunderland and other cities, and the applications will be dealt with as quickly as possible. I am glad to say that a few men are already at work under the scheme in London and the Southern counties.
Temporary Buildings, St. James's Park
asked the hon. Member for the Pollok Division of Glasgow, as representing the First Commissioner of Works, (1) whether he will state the purpose for which girders, bricks, and other building material are being accumulated at the western end of Lake Buildings in St. James's Park:
(2) whether he is aware that the temporary buildings at the western end of the bed of the lake in St. James's Park are showing signs of collapse; and whether he will take this opportunity of making a beginning in the restoration of the amenities formerly available when this site was an open space by removing the buildings in question?
The material in question is required for the execution of certain repairs necessary for the safety of these temporary buildings, and in order to overcome an unequal settlement which is, however, not serious. The First Commissioner is, unfortunately, not yet in a position to dispense with the accommodation afforded by these buildings.
Wykeham Hall, Romford
asked the Minister of Labour if anything has yet been done to liberate Wykeham Hall, Romford, which was patriotically handed over as a temporary accommodation for the Labour Exchange?
My Department has accepted an offer of a lease of other accommodation, to which it is intended to remove the Employment Exchange from Wykeham Hall as soon as the legal formalities are completed, and the necessary works of adaptation have been carried out.
Air Ministry
asked the Secretary of State for Air whether the Ministry has yet given consideration to the post-War scheme to be adopted for the Air Ministry Stores depots and the Ministry headquarters; whether the clerical staff for post-War complements will be recruited from the list of successful candidates at the special examinations held in November, 1920, or direct from the present staffs under a departmental scheme of reorganisation; and whether he will inform the House what progress has been made with regard to adopting the recommendations contained in the reorganisation Report of the National Whitley Council for the administrative and legal branches of the Civil Service and the transfer of the present unestablished staff to the pensionable establishment?
The answer to the first part of the question is in the affirmative. The clerical staff for the Air Ministry headquarters will be recruited both from the existinig permanent staff and from the list of successful candidates at the special examinations held in November and December last. It is proposed that the clerical staff for stores depots should be recruited, as far as possible, from the present staffs. With regard to the last part of the question, proposals relative to headquarters staff have been drawn up and are under discussion. As regards the out-station staff, the scheme for future recruitment and grading will, it is hoped, be ready to be announced without undue delay.
asked the Secretary of State for Air in what circumstances the Ministry had decided against continuing the grant of season-ticket allowances to the clerical staff employed at the packing depot, Ascot, seeing that local clerical labour could not be obtained and that, because of the housing shortage at Ascot, the present staff had to travel to and from Reading daily, thereby incurring a monthly expenditure of 45s., which had, up to 31st March last, been borne by the Air Ministry; and whether, seeing that 69s. a week is not a sufficient remuneration to permit of an outlay of 11s. 3d. on travelling costs, he, will undertake to secure a reconsideration of the decision to cancel the grant formerly made as reimbursement?
The grant of season ticket allowances at Ascot began at a time when the great bulk of the labour required, both clerical and manual, had to be obtained from Reading. The position has now changed; the workpeople, who constitute 87 per cent. of the whole staff of the depot, could be recruited locally, and the greater part of the clerical staff required (18 in all) could be obtained without payment of travelling expenses. In these circumstances, it was decided last year that this establishment was not one in which it was justifiable that public funds should continue to bear a charge which had originated in the special circumstances described, and notice was given in November, 1920, that it would be discontinued. In deference, however, to representations made, and after a discussion at the Air Ministry Industrial Council, the date was put off until 31st March. As the charge is one which, in principle, is not defensible, and as full notice was given, I do not see my way to take the course mentioned in the last part of the question.
Ministry of Health (Medical Branch)
asked the Minister of Health what necessity there is for having increased the number of medical men on the public health staff in the direct service of the Government from 39, who performed the functions under the Local Government Board in 1914, to 100, at present employed by the Ministry of Health, at an annual cost which was increased from £26,871 15s. 9d. in 1914 to £130,630 3s. in 1920; and whether he proposes to take any steps to reduce the numbers and cost?
I am inquiring into the functions and numbers of the medical branch of the Ministry, and, pending the result of these inquiries, have given instructions that no vacancies arising in the medical branch are to be filled.
Ministry of Agriculture (Woman Adviser)
asked the Minister of Agriculture whether his Department has decided to abolish the post of woman adviser to the Ministry of Agriculture; and whether, in view of Parliament having laid it down that women must be included on the agricultural committees of the county councils, it is the intention of the Department to have no woman holding a responsible administrative post at the Ministry itself?
The answer to both parts of the question is in the affirmative. The work at the Ministry in connection with the appointment of women members of the county agricultural committees has been completed, and there is not now sufficient work to occupy the whole time of a woman adviser. I may add that the fact that women are represented on the county agricultural committees makes it less necessary to retain the services of a woman on the staff of the Ministry.
Area Medical Board Offices, Manchester
asked the Minister of Pensions whether he is aware that certain clerical employés at the regional headquarters, Manchester, have been given notice terminating their engagements on 6th May next, on the grounds that they are not defined as ex-service men; whether, in consideration of the fact that although over military age they volunteered for service immediately, on the outbreak of the láte War, were enlisted and given the first day's military pay, and were requested to join the recruiting staff at Manchester as civilian clerks, he will institute inquiries into the circumstances of their dismissal and endeavour to adjust the balance as between these men who did not exactly wear uniform although performing work of a military nature under the control of military officers, and those men who, being of a military age, were put into uniform and immediately proceeded to perform the same class of work, under the same military chiefs, and in the same building as the three men referred to; and whether, pending the result of such inquiries, he will cause the suspension of the discharge notices of these men who sacrificed their businesses in the early days of the War and who now, owing to advancing years, are threatened by unemployment by reason of a preferential bias in favour of younger men technically termed ex-service men, although their duties during the War were identical in character?
The three men to whom this question refers are employed in the Area Medical Board Offices in Manchester. The work in these offices has recently diminished, and in accordance with the terms of the Report of the Lytton Committee these men have been given notice of the termination of their employment in the Ministry in preference to the discharge of efficient ex-service men, which would have been the only alternative.
War Department Offices
asked the Secretary of State for War whether consideration has yet been given to the nature of the post-War staffing scheme to be adopted for the out-station offices of the War Department; whether the clerical staffs required for post-War complements would be recruited direct from the existing unestablished staff, many of whom had served in an unestablished capacity for over 25 years; if attention is being paid to the recommendations contained in Clause 8, paragraph 4, of the Report of the Royal Commission on the Civil Service in 1914 with regard to the establishment of persons engaged on work likely to prove permanent; and whether, seeing that delayed action deprives the individual of a certain amount of pensionable service, he will take the necessary steps to fall into line with other Departments and apply to the Lords Commissioners of His Majesty's Treasury for sanction to prepare for presentation to the Civil Service Commissioners a list of those persons who had completed seven years' service, and were under 60 years of age on 1st March, 1920, for the issue in their favour of certificates of qualification placing them on the permanent establishment of the Department?
The circumstances under which, as a result of the War and more recent events, the various War Department offices are working are still far from normal, and it has not yet been found possible to reach a final decision as to their future constitution on a peace basis, but in order that this complicated question may be dealt with satisfactorily, steps were taken some time ago to secure the extension, to the staffs in question, of the Whitley Council machinery of the War Office. I hope that the representatives for this purpose will shortly be appointed and that these matters will then be brought to an early conclusion.
Departmental and Professional Classes (Pay.)
asked the Financial Secretary to the Treasury whether the principles relating to the pay of men and women in clerical, executive, and junior administrative classes of the Civil Service as laid down by a committee of the National Whitley Council appointed to make recommendations as to the scales of salary and method of recruitment of clerical classes are being applied to departmental and professional classes of the service; if so, whether these classes knew beforehand that the recommendations would apply not only to the clerical classes; whether the departmental and professional classes were given the same opportunity as the clerical classes of choosing representatives on the committee; whether, in fact, they had any direct representation on the committee; and whether it is in accordance with the spirit of the Whitley system that the conditions and pay of the departmental and professional classes should be decided by a committee set up to decide the conditions and pay of the clerical classes?
The scales of pay of men and women serving in the various departmental and professional classes would be considered with reference to any principle of general applicability contained in the Report of the Reorganisation Committee of the Civil Service National Whitley Council, but I do not think that the pay and conditions of service of those classes can be said to have been decided by the Reorganisation Committee. The allocation of seats on the staff side of the Committee was a matter for the staff side of the National Whitley Council, but I understand that the representation of the staff was not confined to representatives of the clerical staff immediately affected.
Principal Probate Registry
asked the Financial Secretary to the Treasury whether be can inform the House of the position with regard to the departmental Whitley Council of the Principal Probate Registry, Somerset House, in connection with which it has been ruled that the question of staff reorganisation cannot be proceeded with as all powers relating to such questions are vested in the Lord Chancellor and the Treasury; and whether, if this is the case, he will consider the desirability of amending the Judicature Act of 1879 and bringing the employés of the Probate Registry within the classification of the Civil Service?
I am not aware of the ruling referred to by the hon. Member. A special Committee including officers of the Registry and representatives of the Lord Chancellor and the Treasury is at present considering the reorganisation of the Registry, and I am informed that an opportunity for discussing the Report of the Committee will be afforded to the Departmental Council before any decision upon it is taken.
Superannuation Allowance (Over-Issues)
asked the Financial Secretary to the Treasury if he is aware of the hardship caused by asking men in receipt of superannuation allowance or similar payment to refund under Section 20 of the Superannuation Act of 1834; whether, in many cases such compulsory refund causes the greatest possible hardship; and whether he will issue instructions that the officials of the Department concerned shall take greater pains not to make payments on a scale which makes the refund necessary?
I am aware that some hardship has been caused in a few cases by the over-issue of superannuation allowance to Civil Service pensioners who are re-employed in the Civil Service.
Range of Salaries. £500–£600. £600 £750. £750–£1,000. £1,000–£1,500. £1,500–£2,000. Over £2,000. Total. Number of civil servants whose salaries fall within limits indicated on the 28th February, 1921. 2,770 1,501 1,164 474 40 59 6,008 Number who obtained an increase of salary in preceding 12 months as a result of normal promotion in vacancies. 411 243 111 41 3 3 812 Average. Average increase so obtained £140 £157 £211 £239 £200 £1,200 £164 Total. Number who obtained an increase of salary in preceding 12 months as a result of revision. 134 74 108 31 4 42 393 Average. Average increase so obtained £57 £63 £131 £140 £333 £788 £164 Total. Number who obtained an increase of salary in preceding 12 months as a result partly of normal promotion and partly of revision. 27 22 26 4 — 5 84 Average. Average increase so obtained £166 £262 £218 £266 — £1,125 £277 Total. Total number who obtained an increase of salary in preceding 12 months under all these heads. 572 339 245 76 7 50 1,289 Average Average increase so obtained £121 £143 £174 £194 £300 £846 £171
Every effort is made to reduce the number of such cases to a minimum, but the over-issue is usually the fault of the pensioner, who fails to declare explicitly on the quarterly declaration form the nature and remuneration of his re-employment. Where the amount involved is comparatively large and the pension small, repayment by instalments is usually allowed. If my hon. Friend will let me have particulars of any specially hard cases, I will look into them.
Salaries (Increases)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will state the number of civil servants in receipt of salaries of £500 a year and upwards who have, in the course of the last 12 months, received increases of their permanent salaries apart from war bonus, distinguishing those in receipt of salaries from £500 to £1,000, from £1,000 to £1,500, from £1,500 to £2,000, and over £2,000, respectively; and the respective amounts of increase of these salaries?
The following are the increases in salaries of civil servants in 12 months ended 28th February, 1921:
Drainage Schemes
asked the Minister of Agriculture if a Return has been made of land requiring new drainage in the United Kingdom; and if steps are being taken to promote drainage schemes on a large scale and so relieve unemployment by providing work of permanent value?
As I informed the hon. Member on the 22nd November, the Ministry have received Returns as to 770,000 acres of land suffering from serious lack of arterial drainage. No more recent Returns have been called for, but the Ministry is aware that there is a considerably larger area less seriously affected. Since the date of the hon. Member's last question, 54,760 acres of land have been brought under the jurisdiction of drainage authorities. The question of the promotion of extensive drainage schemes as a means of alleviating unemployment is still under consideration. I may add, however, that the terms of reference of the Unemployment Grants Committee have recently been altered so as to make it possible for grants to be made to drainage authorities who would otherwise find the cost of carrying out drainage works in their district prohibitive. A circular has been addressed to all drainage authorities on the subject, and several of such authorities have already expressed their desire to take advantage of the present facilities.
Relief Works (Wages)
asked the Financial Secretary to the Treasury whether the unemployment grants committee lay down any condition regarding the wages to be paid on unemployment relief works for which a grant is to be made; whether he is aware that the Middlesbrough Corporation are paying men employed on the widening of a road a wage substantially below the rate for labourers regularly employed by the corporation; and whether he will recommend the unemployment grants committee to apply the principle of the fair-wages clause in making grants for work of this character?
The regulation of the wages paid on relief works is in the hands of the local authorities. I see no alternative to leaving the matter within the discretion of the local authorities, who are familiar with the circumstances in their own districts.
asked the Minister of Transport the amount already disbursed by Lord St. David's Committee for relief works; and to whom the grants have been allocated and the amounts?
Up to the end of last week the amount of the grants allocated by the Unemployment Grants Relief Committee was £1,354,749. The recipients of the grants include 267 local authorities, comprising practically all the large towns in England and Scotland. I am afraid that a full list of the grants made would be rather bulky; but if the hon. Member desires information about any particular grant I shall be happy to obtain it for him.
Public Grants
asked the Minister of Labour whether the sole object of the system of grants from public funds to unemployed workmen is to provide a subsistence allowance to tide over the emergency of hard times and high prices; whether highly-paid workers who may be on short time, and yet receive £3 to £4 per week, and in some cases more, are entitled to claim such assistance; and, if so, is there any limit of income above which grants are discontinued?
I assume that my hon. Friend refers to the payment of unemployment benefit in accordance with the Unemployment Insurance Acts, 1920 and 1921. The essential feature of the scheme embodied in those Acts is that contributions shall be paid during employment by employés, the employers and the State. Payment of benefit during unemployment is made from the fund thus jointly contributed, and so long as the statutory conditions are fulfilled, an insured contributor under the Acts has the right to claim unemployment benefit against the contributions he has paid in respect of each day in a continuous period of unemployment, as defined in the Act. All manual workers in insurable employment are liable to contribute irrespective of the amount of their earnings, and are entitled to benefit when unemployed, but non-manual workers whose rate of remuneration exceeds £250 a year are excepted from the payment of insurance contributions and are not entitled to benefit.
Heaton Employment Exchange, Newcastle-On-Tyne
asked the Minister of Labour whether he is aware that many hundreds of unemployed men have been obliged during the past week to stand in queues for quite unnecessarily long periods in inclement weather outside the Heaton Employment Exchange, Newcastle-upon-Tyne, awaiting their turn to be dealt with by the officials; whether this unnecessary hardship is due to depletion of staffs, and, if so, to what extent; and, if not, will he see that preventable suffering is not inflicted upon the unemployed men who are seeking work in these difficult times?
The numbers registered at the Heaton Employment Exchange have nearly doubled since 24th March, and I understand that the rapid increase in the number of applicants during the last few weeks has caused some difficulty. There has been no depletion of staff and steps have been taken to deal with the situation.
BENEFIT CLAIM (Mr. W. J. WEEKES)
asked the Minister of Labour whether his attention has been drawn to the case of W. J. Weekes, who, on the 28th March, left his employment in a St. Leonard's hotel because of the immoral way in which the hotel was conducted; whether he is aware that when Mr. Weekes applied for unemployment benefit he was notified that as he had left his employment voluntarily, without just cause, he was not entitled to any; whether Mr. Weekes has appealed against this decision; and whether, seeing that the man's reason for leaving his employment is shown to be bonâ fide by the fact that two other employés left for the same reason, he will have inquiries made into this case and recommend payment of the benefit?
I am informed that the claim to unemployment benefit made by Mr. Weekes on the 29th March was disallowed by the Insurance Officer on the grounds that he was disqualified under Section 8 (2) of the Unemployment Insurance Act, 1920, for receipt of benefit because it appeared that he had left his employment voluntarily without just cause. Mr. Weekes has appealed against this decision to the Court of Referees in accordance with the usual procedure, and the matter is therefore sub judice. I am informed that the case was before the court on the 27th instant, and was adjourned in order that evidence might be obtained from the two other employés mentioned in the question.
Cigar Manufacture
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he is aware of an interview which took place on the 15th April last between the secretary of Excise and a deputation representative of the British cigar manufacturers and employés; whether his attention has been drawn to the proposals put forward designed to stabilise employment in the trade without loss to the Exchequer; and whether, in view of the unemployment in the trade and its fluctuating character, he will adopt the proposals then made and thus help to find employment for men at present in receipt of unemployment benefit?
The proposals submitted by the deputation are being carefully considered, and as soon as a decision on the subject has been reached it will be communicated to the chairman of the deputation.
Bolshevik Propaganda (Newspapers)
asked the Home Secretary if he will name the particular newspapers in the United Kingdom which are known to be in receipt of funds from alien sources for the purpose of Bolshevik and seditious propaganda, in this country?
No, Sir. I do not think this would be in the public interest. Among other reasons, it would help to advertise several obscure papers.
Alien Immigration
asked the Home Secretary whether, during this period of industrial depression, he is strictly enforcing all possible regulations to limit alien immigration?
Yes, Sir. I am doing so.
Criminal Investigation Department
asked the Home Secretary whether any person named Hardy or Harding is doing any work at or in connection with Scotland Yard; whether he is in any way associated with the work assigned to Sir Basil Thompson; whether any person, formerly engaged in Dublin Castle, has during the past two months been appointed or reinstated at Scotland Yard; and, if so, under what circumstances, and in what capacity?
The answer to the first three questions is in the negative, and the fourth, therefore, does not arise.
Police Pensions (R. a. Johns)
asked the Home Secretary whether he is aware that the Standing Joint Committee of the Devon County Council have refused to supplement the pension of ex-Constable R. A. Johns, who served for 25¼ years prior to the War and rejoined during the War; and, seeing that the total of this man's income does not exceed £86 per year, that he is upwards of 60 years of age, and in ill-health consequent upon his work in attempting to save life and property from fire during his period of re-engagement, will he máke some inquiry into this matter with a view to this pensioner obtaining the relief intended by the provisions of the Pensions (Increase) Act, 1920?
I have communicated with the Devon Standing Joint Committee, and am informed that they are about to reconsider the case of ex-Constable Johns.
Criminal Appeal (Mr. G. Smellie)
asked the Home Secretary whether he has received a statement from Mr. L. Morgan May, barrister-at-law, with reference to the dismissal of Mr. George Smellie's appeal at the Court of Criminal Appeal; whether such statement bears out Mr. Smellie's contention that he was placed in such a position that he could not hear the evidence; and whether, under these circumstances, he will take steps to obtain a free pardon?
A statement from Mr. Morgan May was, with a number of other papers, submitted to me and received careful consideration, but it afforded no sufficient ground for the grant of a free pardon.
Window Slashing
asked the Home Secretary whether the police have made any suggestions for the issue of warnings or advice to the public with regard to the epidemic of window slashing and its detection?
I would refer the hon. Member to the answer which I gave on Tuesday to the hon. Member for Stratford (Mr. Lyle).
Trafalgar Square
asked the hon. Member for the Pollok Division of Glasgow, as representing the First Commissioner of Works, whether he will take into favourable consideration the laying of grass in substitution of part of the pavement around the fountains and water in Trafalgar Square?
The First Commissioner is of opinion that, however great might be the æsthetic improvement of substituting grass for asphalte in Trafalgar Square, the proposal cannot be adopted. Quite apart from the cost, which would be heavy, the fact that the square is habitually used for public demonstrations makes the scheme quite impracticable.
Westminster Hall
asked the hon. Member for the Pollok Division of Glasgow, as representing the First Commissioner of Works, if he can inform the House when the work now being carried out in Westminster Hall will be completed; and what the amount of the total cost is expected to be?
As far as can be foreseen, the work will be completed by the end of next year, and the total cost is estimated at approximately £120,000.
Bombay and Calcutta (Population)
asked the Secretary of State for India the population, as furnished by the recent census, of Bombay City and Calcutta City, respectively, and of each city with its suburbs; and whether the returns establish beyond doubt the statistical claim to precedence implied in Bombay's motto, "Urbs prima in Indis"?
According to a newspaper report the population of Calcutta City is 884,705, and of Bombay City 1,172,953. Previous census reports have not classified any urban areas as suburbs of Bombay, and, as far as I know, the same is the case with this year's report. Opinions no doubt differ as to the places that may reasonably be regarded as suburbs of the two cities, and the question does not seem to be one that can be authoritatively settled.
Feathers (Export)
asked the Secretary of State for India if the notification of 1902 prohibiting the export of feathers of wild birds was intended to apply to the feathers of the egret, which is now farmed on an extensive scale; and if he will advise the Government of India to encourage this native industry by removing any prohibition of export in respect of farmed egrets?
I do not know in what sense my hon. Friend uses the word "farmed," or to what extent farming is carried on; prohibition of the export of feathers from India includes those of egrets. I am not prepared to take any action or to advise any which will facilitate the traffic in the plumage of wild birds, but I am seeking information as to the extent to which egrets are being kept in captivity and the conditions under which they are being so kept. There are also other factors to take into consideration.
Silver Dollars (Purchase)
asked the Secretary of State for India whether, under the terms of the sale of $122,000,000 of silver by the United States Government, under the Pittman Act, the British Government have, in addition to paying interest on the value at 5 per cent. until repayment, to grant the Federal Banks an annual rupee credit not exceeding £7,000,000 at 48¾ cents per rupee; whether the British or Indian Treasury is responsible for these repayments; and whether the loan was negotiated by Lord Reading, and, if not, by whom?
Payment for silver dollars purchased from the United States Government by the British Government during the War for shipment to India was made by the British Government out of the British Treasury Account in New York, the Indian Government repaying the British Treasury in sterling. To the extent of, approximately, $122,000,000, the money required to effect the purchase was provided out of the proceeds of loans from the United States Government. Arrangements were made by the British Treasury in 1920 for repaying this sum of $122,000,000 in instalments, terminating in 1924, together with 5 per cent. interest as part of the arrangement for repayment, and, pending complete repayment, the United States Government has been given, by arrangement with the Indian Government, an option, to be exercised through the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, to purchase rupee credits at 48⅔ cents per rupee, to amounts not exceeding 7 crores a year. The dollars received in payment for such rupee credits would be applied to reduction of the outstanding balance of the $122,000,000. The British Treasury is responsible for the dollar payments and for repaying to the Indian Government the sterling equivalent of any dollars that may be received in payment for rupee credits.
Army Officers (Repatriation)
asked the Secretary of State for India whether he is aware that 200 officers are at present detained at Deolali awaiting repatriation from Bombay, and that more are arriving daily; that many of these officers have already been kept waiting for some seven weeks; that, owing to transport being hopelessly inadequate, only 36 officers have been repatriated from Deolali since 1st March last; that the above figures do not include the married families; and what steps does he propose to take to repatriate these officers?
One hundred and thirty officers left India on 1st March for demobilisation. I have no precise figures for the number who have sailed since, but it is considerably in excess of 36. Since my answer to my hon. and gallant Friend's question on the same subject on 18th April, I have received the following information from India. All military officers at Deolali and others now awaiting entitled passages number 216 and the total of berths required for officers and their families 566. For these 154 berths are in sight on Government transports and passages by private steamers are being booked. I anticipate that all will have sailed before the end of June, but I expect further information.
Fiji Islands (Labour Dispute)
asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies if he has received any reports regarding a recent strike of Indians at Suva, Fiji Islands; what were the causes of the strike; and what steps, if any, were taken to ensure order and with what results; and whether he will call for and publish a full report regarding these matters?
I am not aware of any dispute at Suva, but on the north-west coast of the main island there has been a strike of the labourers of the Colonial Sugar Refining Company for increased wages. The Colonial Government has found it necessary to send some additional police into the district and to deport one Sadhu Bishist Muni, who was endeavouring to incite the Indians against the Fijians. There has been no disorder. My hon. and gallant Friend may rest assured that the Governor will watch every opportunity for promoting conciliation between the parties.
Trans-Jordania
asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies whether he will in future use the Arab name Belka for the territory east of the Jordan instead of the name Outre Jourdan which is beginning to become current in official parlance?
I understand that Belka is the name of one district only of the territory east of the Jordan, and could not properly be applied to the area as a whole. The territory is at present known officially as Trans-Jordania.
Divorce Decrees, India
asked the Attorney-General whether, seeing that the considered judgment of the President of the Divorce Court on the validity of Indian divorces in the case of Keys v. Keys and Gray was given on 10th March, and that that judgment has invalidated the marriages of many hundreds of persons, whose marriages are thereby declared to be illegal, and the children of such marriages illegitimate, the Government intends to carry out its promise made by the Attorney-General on 15th March to repair these terrible results of the East India Councils Act of 1861, and introduce immediately legislation to regularise these unions and legitimise the children; and will such legislation when introduced fully secure the interests of such children if either parent has died before such legislation is passed?
Yes, Sir. Legislation will be introduced in another place at the earliest opportunity. The answer to the last part of the question is in the affirmative.
Foreign Postage Rates
asked the Postmaster-General whether it is intended to make any alterations in the rates of foreign postage; and, if so, to what extent and from what date?
The question of revising the rates of foreign postage is still under consideration. I hope to be able to make an announcement on the subject at an early date.
Savings Certificates
asked the Postmaster-General the amount of War Savings Certificates sold by the Post Office for the years 1918, 1919, and 1920?
The value of War Savings Certificates sold by the Post Office, inclusive of sales by bankers, who act as Post Office agents, for the years 1918, 1919, and 1920, was as follows:
Year £ 1918 … … … 108,348,782 1919 … … … 79,013,449 1920 … … … 44,785,311
Overtime (Women)
asked the Postmaster-General how many writing assistants, temporary women clerks, and first and second class women clerks in the Savings Bank Department were working overtime last week; and whether he will state the total number of hours overtime worked during that period by these women?
The numbers of writing assistants, temporary women clerks and permanent women clerks in the Savings Bank Department who were employed on overtime beyond 42 hours last week were 232, 89 and 942 respectively, and the numbers of hours of overtime were 1,739,624 and 2,162 respectively. There would be difficulty in giving separate figures for the two classes of permanent women clerks, as these classes are in course of reorganisation. The overtime worked by the writing assistants arose from exceptional causes. No overtime was worked by this class between June, 1920, and the second week of this month.
Telephone Service
asked the Postmaster-General, with reference to the Tilbury telephone rates, whether the Government will consider the modification of an arbitrary zone system instead of breaking implied undertakings which have existed since the foundation of the telephone system, and imposing a barrier in the path of the business of the Port of London; whether the effect of the new tariff will be an increase of more than 750 per cent. in the charges to telephone subscribers in the Tilbury area; whether there is any other exchange area at a distance of about 20 miles from London other than the Tilbury exchange area in which there exists so large a proportion of docks, wharves, and other industrial undertakings having their administrative offices in the City of London; whether there is any other exchange area in the United Kingdom situate about 20 miles from its business centre where the pro- portion of calls to that centre outnumbers local calls by four to one; and whether he will again consider the position with a view to the Post Office exercising the same elasticity in its telephone administration to meet special circumstances as was exercised by the companies formerly owning the telephone system?
I know of no undertaking, expressed or implied, that the telephone charges in Tilbury or elsewhere should remain unchanged. The close commercial relations existing between Tilbury and London require a quick and adequate telephone service, which my right hon. Friend is ready to provide, but they do not justify the provision of a service at considerably below cost price at the expense of telephone users generally. The elasticity which the hon. Member advocates would appear to consist in charging a lower rate for calls between Tilbury and London than would be payable for calls over a similar distance in any other part of the country.
Wireless Service (London and Paris)
asked the Postmaster-General whether he will state the exact terms of the licence which has been issued to the Marconi Company in connection with the new wireless service which has been installed between London and Paris?
No licence has yet been issued. Temporary permission has been given to the Marconi Company to commence the service, but this is subject to withdrawal if a suitable agreement is not arrived at between the Government and the company as to the conditions on which such licences may be granted. The question of these conditions is under consideration.
Profiteering Acts
asked the President of the Board of Trade whether the conference of certain members of the central committee established under the Profiteering Acts, which he announced on 21st February as about to inquire into the subject of the multiplication of transactions in the distribution of commodities, has finished its labours; and whether it has presented, or intends to present, any Report?
The conference to which my hon. Friend refers held its final meeting on the 21st April. I understand that a communication embodying the views of the Conference will be submitted to the chairman of the Central Committee.
Salmon Stores, Lewes
asked the President of the Board of Trade whether 800 cases of salmon containing four dozen tins in each case have been stored at Lewes since August, 1919, by order of the Ministry of Food; what is being paid for storage; and what the Government intend to do with it?
The cases of salmon referred to were finally disposed of by the Ministry of Food more than six months ago. The second and third parts of the question, therefore, do not arise.
Tugboats (Gravesend)
asked the President of the Board of Trade whether the tugboat "St. Mellons" has a motor boat almost as large as herself attending her at a cost of £5 per day; and whether it is possible to engage her for other work instead of lying idle at Gravesend?
I am afraid the hon. and gallant Member has not been correctly informed. The Superintendent Engineer was instructed to attend to certain engine defects on the "St. Mellons" and "Arbeit," the tugs referred to in the next question. Both tugs at the time were lying some considerable distance from Gravesend. The engineer employed a motor launch to take him to both tugs, the cost of which for two days amounted to £2. The "St. Mellons" was paid off at Portland on the 23rd April.
asked the President of the Board of Trade whether his attention has been called to the fact that there are two tugboats lying moored off Gravesend, namely, the "St. Mellons" and the German tug "Arlicit," the latter being engaged in towing the German steamer "Senille" from the River Plate to London to discharge grain; whether these two tugboats are going to stay at Gravesend until the German steamer has discharged her cargo, when they are going to tow her to Hamburg; and, if so, why a German tug is employed to carry out this work whilst out own tugs are lying idle in harbour and incurring heavy expense to the taxpayers of this country?
The facts of this case are as follow: The German steamer "Sevilla" was towed from the Argentine to London by the British Government-owned tug "St. Mellons," assisted by the German tug "Arbeit" under the terms of the Peace Treaty. Both tugs were employed at the expense of the German Government. The "St. Mellons," after taking the "Sevilla" to the Surrey Commercial Dock, London, on the 20th April, returned to Gravesend, where a few necessary repairs were made to her machinery. The tug sailed from Gravesend on the 22nd April, for Portland, and was paid off on arrival on the 23rd April. The "Arbeit" acting under the orders of the German Government, will assist another German tug, to be sent from Hamburg, to take the "Sevilla" after discharge to Hamburg.
asked the First Lord of the Admiralty at what price the three motor boats, one of which is at present being used to attend on the tugboat "St. Mellons," at Gravesend, were sold; and who were the purchasers?
I have been asked to reply. The motor boat attending on the tugboat "St. Mellons" at Gravesend was an ordinary privately-owned craft plying for hire, and was employed for about 48 hours only. If the hon. and gallant Member will state the names of the other boats referred to inquiries will be made as to their purchase price and the name of the purchasers.
Imported Plumage Trade
asked the President of the Board of Trade the total number of men, women, and young persons employed during the last 10 years on imported feathers, giving separate particulars of the ostrich feather trade and the fancy feather trade?
I have been asked to reply, but I regret that the information desired by my hon. Friend is not available.
Harbours and Estuaries (Oil Polution)
asked the President of the Board of Trade whether it is his intention to introduce legislation dealing with the nuisance caused by the discharge of oil from vessels in harbours and estuaries; and, if so, when will the Bill be introduced?
This question is being considered by a Committee containing representatives of port and harbour authorities, shipowners and oil com-companies, and I understand that their proposals are being drawn up in the form of a draft Bill. As soon as the Committee have reported, the question whether a Bill can be introduced will be considered.
Uganda Cotton
asked the President of the Board of Trade whether there is a considerable quantity of Ugandagrown cotton lying unsaleable in Liverpool; whether the reason given for its rejection by the cotton buyers is that it is not of a kind suited to the machinery of the Lancashire mills; and what steps are being taken to prevent such discouragement of cotton growing within the Empire?
I understand that the sales of Uganda cotton have not diminished in proportion to those of American cotton, and as it is largely used for mixing with other kinds, it is clear that Uganda cotton cannot expect to escape the results of the general depression. I shall be glad to receive any particulars of the statement made in the second part of the question, showing on what grounds this cotton is stated to be unsuitable for Lancashire machinery. On the receipt of such particulars, I shall be glad to examine the matter further; but as at present advised, I am not prepared to interfere with the production of a kind of cotton which is readily saleable in normal times, and which recently commanded a premium of 1s. 8d. a pound over American cotton.
Commercial Travellers (Fees)
asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Overseas Trade Department whether he will circulate in the OFFICIAL REPORT a detailed statement of the fees levied by foreign countries on British commercial travellers entering those countries?
A Report, which will give the latest information available, is in preparation, and will be published when it is ready. Meanwhile, I am sending my hon. and gallant Friend a paper containing the most recent particulars now in the possession of my Department.
Stationery Office (Paper Supplies)
asked the Financial Secretary to the Treasury what was the value of the paper held in stock by His Majesty's Stationery Office on the 31st March, 1921, as compared with that on the 31st December, 1920; what amount has been written off by way of depreciation in the value of paper held in stock during the year ended 31st March; and to what extent as to quantity and price the Stationery Office is committed under contract for supplies of paper at rates higher than the present market price?
I am in communication with the Controller of His Majesty's Stationery Office on this matter, and will inform the hon. and gallant Member as soon as I have obtained the requisite information.
Income-Tax and Super-Tax
asked the Financial Secretary to the Treasury whether he is in a position to communicate the result of his inquiry into the case of an Income Tax appeal at Marlborough recently, where it was decided to have an account prepared from the bank pass books, and the inspector of taxes insisted upon the account being prepared by a chartered accountant, although the solicitor in the case objected, and expressed the desire to employ an accountant who is a fellow of the Central Association of Accountants (Incorporated); and whether, in view of the fact that the Income Tax Acts provide that such accounts shall be prepared by a member of an incorporated society, he will instruct the inspector of taxes that the services of a chartered accountant are not essential?
As the result of the inquiry which I had made in this matter, I think that the hon. Member is under a partial misapprehension. The determination of an Income Tax appeal lies with the Commissioners of Taxes, and not with the inspector, who, as one of the parties to the appeal, is bound by the Commissioners' decision equally with the taxpayer. In the particular case to which the hon. Member refers, the inspector suggested the desirability of having the accounts prepared by a chartered accountant, but he did not, and obviously could not, insist on the adoption of this course, although it was understood at the time that it would be followed. The Income Tax Commissioners concerned have, however, recently decided that they will be willing to receive and consider accounts prepared by the accountant to whom the hon. Member refers, and, if it should be necessary, to afford him a hearing in support of his client's appeal.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether his attention has been called to that portion of the Report of the Royal Commission on the Income Tax which recommends, in paragraph 319, that the income arising from the investments of superannuation funds should be exempted from Income Tax; and whether he will give effect to this recommendation in the present Revenue Bill or in some other Bill to be introduced later in the Session?
I would invite the attention of my hon. and learned Friend to a reply which was given on this subject by my right hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer on the 21st February, 1921, to the hon. Member for the West Houghton Division (Mr. T. Wilson). I am sending my hon. and learned Friend a copy of that reply.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer the number of appeals made by his Department against the decisions of the Income Tax Commissioners of the City of London during the last three years; and how many of such appeals have been successful?
During the last three years there have been five cases in which, in regard to decisions of the Commissioners of Taxes for the City of London, dissatisfaction has been expressed on behalf of the Crown and cases have been demanded for the opinion of the High Court. In one case the demand has been withdrawn, and the remaining four cases have not yet come before the Court
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what action the Government proposes to take upon the recommendation made in paragraph 582 of the Report of the Royal Commission on Income Tax in respect of the deduction allowed in the calculation of Super-tax payable by persons who have to pay interest upon estate duty?
The Special Commissioners of Income Tax, in whom the administration of Super-tax is vested, having considered this question, are of opinion that a deduction may be allowed for Super-tax purposes in respect of interest on arrears of Death Duties of the gross amount which, after deduction of Income Tax at the standard rate, would give a net amount equal to the amount of interest actually paid. The Commissioners of Inland Revenue concur in this view, which is in accordance with the recommendation of the Royal Commission on the Income Tax.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether his attention has been called to a recent communication from Lord Wrenbury urging that the allowances and relief granted by Sections 17 to 23 of the Finance Act, 1920, are admissible deductions in computing total income for assessment to Super-tax; whether he will obtain the opinion of the Law Officers of the Crown on this question; and whether, if the opinion of the Law Officers supports the views expressed by Lord Wrenbury, he will give instructions that these deductions should be allowed in computing the total income for assessment from Super-tax for the year 1920–21?
I have seen the communication to which my hon. and learned Friend refers. There can be no doubt that the deductions in question were intended by Parliament to apply for the purposes of Income Tax only and not in the case of Super-tax; and, as at present advised, I am unable to share my hon. and learned Friend's doubts as to whether the intention of Parliament in this matter does in fact find expression in the Statute Book. I need hardly remind my hon. and learned Friend that the proper course for any payer of Super-tax who considers that he has any ground of objection to his assessment is to follow the procedure prescribed by the law, that is, to give notice of appeal to the Special Commissioners. He will then be afforded every opportunity for having his case fully argued and will be able to carry his appeal to the Courts if he is dissatisfied with the Commissioners' decision on a point of law.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will introduce legislation to carry out the recommendations of the Report of the Royal Commission on Income Tax, 1920, as contained in Part III, Section XVI, both as regards deduction of the contributions of an employé to a superannuation fund and also as regards exemptions from Income Tax of the income arising from the investments of a superannuation or provident fund?
I would refer my hon. and gallant Friend to the reply to a question on this subject which I have given to-day to the hon. and learned Member for York (Sir J. Butcher).
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether his attention has been called to the fact that the Special Commissioners of Income Tax, in issuing the Super-tax forms, ignore the allowances and relief granted to the taxpayer by Sections 17 to 23 of the Finance Act, 1920; whether that procedure has his sanction; and, if not, whether he will direct that the form shall be cancelled and fresh forms, conforming more accurately to the terms of the Finance Act, 1920, shall be issued?
The deductions to which my hon. Friend refers are applicable to Income Tax only and not to Super-tax. There is therefore no ground for an alteration of the Super-tax forms such as my hon. Friend suggests.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the produce of each 1d, of the Income Tax in the normal rate of 6s. in the £?
On the existing basis of taxation, after account is taken of the exemption and reliefs which are autho- rised by law, the estimated net produce of each 1d. of Income Tax (excluding Super-tax) is £5,000,000 for the year 1921–22.
Industrial Provident Societies Act
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will consider the advisability of removing the £200 limit of shareholders' capital under the Industrial Provident Societies Acts owing to the depreciated value of money due to the War?
I am unable to add anything to the reply given to the hon. Member on the 19th May, 1920.
Local Loans (Interest)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he is aware that certain municipalities are offering high rates of interest for money required for local purposes; and, in view of the fact that this is placing difficulties in the way of other councils who cannot afford to pay such high charges for borrowed money, but whose developments are equally essential, he will take steps to come to some arrangement as to the fixing of a maximum for interest on borrowed capital for local government purposes?
I am not aware of any practicable method of fixing a maximum rate of interest on borrowings for local government purposes.
Loans (Dominions and Allies)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how the sum of £5,000,000 shown as loans to Dominions and Allies during the present financial year, on page 6 of his Financial Statement of April, 1921, is made up; to which Dominions and Allies these loans are to be made, or have been made; and on what terms these moneys are advanced?
I would refer the hon. and gallant Member to the Civil Service Estimates, Unclassified Services, Vote 4. The loans are made against the deposit of 6 per cent. Bonds by the borrowing Governments.
Totalisator Tax
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether, in view of the urgent necessity that exists for exploring new avenues of revenue, he will give consideration to the advisability of introducing the Totalisator Tax, a measure which has been responsible for returning substantial revenue in the various parts of the Dominions where it is in operation, and has contributed largely to hospital and similar charitable organizations?
My right hon. Friend is always prepared to consider the advisability of any proposals for raising revenue, but he does not consider that it would be desirable to adopt my hon. and gallant Friend's suggestion.
Czechos-Lovakia (Sugar Trade)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he has considered the complaints of Czecho-Slovaks on the effect of the German Reparation (Recovery) Act on their sugar trade and to the statement that the certificate of origin demanded cannot be obtained without loss of time and the payment of a fee, thus putting this product in a position of disadvantage as compared with Dutch sugar, in connection with which no such formalities are required?
I am not aware of complaint by Czecho-Slovaks in this matter. The requirement of a certificate of origin extends to sugar consigned from any European country, including Holland, and I see no ground for waiving it in the case of sugar from Czecho-Slovakia, which usually passes through Germany, a sugar-producing country.