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Written Answers

Volume 152: debated on Tuesday 28 March 1922

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Written Answers

Russia

Foreign Creditors

asked the Prime Minister whether at the Genoa Conference he will stipulate for the Russian Government to refund moneys taken from the banks, railways, and the commercial community, so as to enable these institutions to liquidate their commercial liabilities to foreign creditors; and will he stipulate for the Russian Government to restore the property of foreign companies and individuals they have seized?

I would ask my hon. Friend to refer to the resolutions passed by the Supreme Council at Cannes, and to await the statement which the Prime Minister proposes to make on Monday next for any further explanations that may be necessary.

Refugees

asked the Lord President of the Council if he will state what means, if any, the League of Nations possesses for repatriating and settling somewhere else Russian refugees now collected in Constantinople; whether there is any prospect that nations other than Great Britain will provide any of the funds which must be gathered together if the League is to function in this behalf; and why this duty devolves upon a body which can only recommend others to find the money with which to carry out what it recommends?

The League obviously can only act in this matter in so far as it is supported financially and otherwise by the Governments constituting it, but I have no reason to suppose that such support as is necessary will not be forthcoming at the proper time. There is clearly advantage in an international body like the League, rather than individual Governments, dealing with a problem of this kind.

Temporary Civil Servants (Appointments)

asked the Financial Secretary to the Treasury the number of temporary civil servants with a salary of over £500 who have been made permanent during the last six months; and whether he will state the policy of the Treasury in this respect?

Two temporary civil servants have been certificated for appointment to permanent posts carrying salaries over £500 per annum in the last six months. It is the duty of the Treasury before approving such appointments to satisfy itself that it is in the interests of the public service to depart from the normal methods of appointment whether in the ordinary course of promotion or under the usual regulations for recruitment to the situation concerned.

Table Waters (Duty)

asked the Financial Secretary to the Treasury whether, in view of the importance of encouraging the sale of wholesome non-alcoholic drinks, the Government will consider the possibility of reviewing the existing duties on table waters, which were imposed as a War measure in 1916, and amount to 4d. a gallon on sweetened waters and 8d. a gallon on unsweetened waters, seeing that these taxes are discouraging the sale of non-alcoholic drinks, and that manufacturers of aerated waters contribute to the revenue through the sugar and essences employed, computed to amount to an average of 4d. per gallon?

All relevant considerations will be taken into account in framing the Budget statement, which I am unable to anticipate.

Old Age Pensions

asked the Financial Secretary to the Treasury what would be the estimated cost to the State of a system of age pensions granted to all old people over 70 years of age whose private means did not exceed £50 a year?

Income Tax

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he can hold out any hope that, bearing in mind the acknowledged equality of the sexes, an alteration will be made in the present law which treats as one the income of husband and wife for taxation purposes?

I would refer my hon. Friend to the answer (a copy of which I am sending him) given on the 1st instant in reply to a question on this subject by the hon. Member for Wallasey (Mr. M'Donald).

Foreign Taxi-Cabs (Import Duty)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he is aware of the serious hardship placed upon the owner-drivers of taxi-cabs who have cabs of French and Italian manufacture because of the 33⅓ per cent. import duty on spare parts and complete chassis; and whether he can abolish the said duty and place taxi-cabs in the same position as other commercial motor vehicles?

I am aware that representations have been made in the sense of the first part of the question. As regards the second part, I cannot anticipate my Budget statement.

Ministry Of Information (Surcharge)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether any steps have been taken to recover the sum of £607 2s. 5d., being the balance of a sum of £6,416 11s. 5d. which was reported by the Public Accounts Committee in 1920 as not properly chargeable to the Vote of the Ministry of Information, 1918–19, and was subsequently disallowed by the Treasury; and, if so, what has been the result?

It has not proved possible to recover this sum. The matter will come before the Public Accounts Committee in due course.

Local Bonds (Tender Privileges)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if his attention has been called to proposals now being made advocating that public authorities should be allowed to issue bonds bearing no interest for carrying out public works, such bonds to be negotiable as legal tender and accepted as such for the payment of local rates, and to be redeemable by regular instalments from the local rates within a definite period of time; what effect such a proposal, if adopted, would have upon the money market and the currency of the country; whether the Treasury has ever sanctioned such an experiment; and, if so, with what result?

I do not know to what special proposals the hon. Member refers, but suggestions on similar lines are being constantly put forward with equally little reason to commend them. The effect of giving legal tender privileges to issues of bonds, whether interest bearing or not, would be similar to, though possibly more disastrous than, that of other methods of depreciating the currency and creating a new volume of immediately exerciseable purchasing power without any corresponding addition to the volume of immediately consumable goods and services. The answer to the third part of the question is in the negative; and the last part does not arise.

Entertainments Duty

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether, having regard to the recent demands for the removal of the Entertainments Duty, the special grievances of the smaller and most numerous football and other sporting clubs have been brought to his notice; whether it has been represented to him that the financial existence of the majority of such clubs is imperilled by the continued imposition of the duty, and that large numbers of them have suffered by reason of diminished support owing to the duty rendering their gate prices either prohibitive to their supporters or uneconomic to the clubs themselves; and whether, in view of the great value of these clubs to the life and health of the State, he can consider the desirability of seeking a means of distinguishing, for the purposes of taxation, between such sporting and other athletic clubs and forms of entertainment the taxation of which will not produce such a potentially serious effect upon the health of the State?

I cannot trace that I have received representations of the nature referred to. As regards the last part of the question, I am not clear what practical test of exemption my hon. and gallant Friend has in mind, but in this connection I would refer him to my reply of the 23rd instant to the hon. and gallant Member for Basingstoke (Sir A. Holbrook).

Stamp Duty (Agents' Accounts)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether, in connection with contra accounts rendered by agents to their principals where the commission and expenses to be deducted or taken credit for exceed £2, it is not the custom to affix the stamp required by law, the responsibility for affixing which rests solely with the agent; whether any estimate has been made of the annual loss to the Exchequer through this evasion of the law; and whether, in order to strengthen the law, he will consider the advisability of providing that the responsibility for affixing the stamp in such cases shall reside jointly with the principals and their agent?

The account rendered by an agent to his principal showing the amounts collected by him and taking credit for commission and expenses due to him does not constitute a receipt for the amount of the commission and expenses and is therefore not liable to Receipt Stamp Duty.

British Officers, China

asked the Secretary of State for War the number of officers on full pay or half pay now in China; how many are employed by the Chinese Government; how many are paid by the Chinese Government; and how many have received permission for visiting China to qualify for interpreterships or other reasons of a temporary character?

Including officers of the Indian Army there are 116 officers on full pay employed by the Army in China. This total consists mainly of the officers of the garrisons of Hong Kong and Tientsin but includes four officers who are qualifying for interpreterships, and the military attaché. One officer on half-pay is employed by the Shanghai municipal authorities as commandant of the Shanghai Volunteer Corps. No officers on full or half-pay are employed or paid by the Chinese Government.

asked the Secretary of State for Air the number of officers on full pay or half-pay now in China; how many are employed by the Chinese Government; how many are paid by the Chinese Government; and how many have received permission for visiting China to qualify for interpreterships or other reasons of a temporary character?

The only Air Force officer in China is one who is loaned to and wholly paid by the Chinese Government.

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Admiralty the number of officers on full pay or half-pay now in China; how many are employed by the Chinese Government; how many are paid by the Chinese Government; and how many have received permission for visiting China to qualify for interpreter-ships or other reasons of a temporary character?

Four naval officers are at present employed in China, none of whom is paid or employed by the Chinese Government. Two of these are in China for the purpose of studying the language, and the other two hold permanent posts at Shanghai. So far as the Admiralty are aware, no officers on half-pay are now in China, but one was granted permission to proceed to Hong Kong on private business last year.

Cavalry Regiments

asked the Secretary of State for War the arrangements proposed for linking the regiments of cavalry, showing how many squadrons are to be allotted to each regiment?

I regret that I am not in a position to give further details on this subject at present.

War Losses (French Return)

asked the Under-Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether his attention has been called to a document laid before the French Chamber of Deputies giving the losses in the War, in respect of men and tonnage of ships, of the various combatants; whether the figures given are officially compiled; and whether, in that case, he will secure a copy of the statement for the information of the House?

Royal Irish Constabulary

asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies when a man who enlisted in the Royal Irish Constabulary for 12 months, and was demobilised seven weeks ago after three months' service on the terms that he received a bounty of £25 and full pay for the unexpired portion of the 12 months, may expect to receive the bounty and unexpired portion of pay?

Canadian Cattle Embargo

asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies whether the Government repudiates the pledge given to Canada at the Imperial Conference in 1917 promising the removal of the embargo on Canadian cattle; and whether such repudiation has been notified to the Dominion Government?

The point raised in the first part of the question was dealt with in the answer given by my right hon. Friend the Minister for Agriculture on 9th February to a supplementary question asked by the hon. Member for Central Aberdeen (Major M. Wood). As to the second part, I cannot add anything to the reply which I gave to my hon. Friend on 16th March.

Ex-Service Men

Overseas Settlement

asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies what action has been taken by his Department to cooperate with and financially assist the Commonwealth Government of Australia in paying the passage of and financially assisting to provide homesteads for unemployed ex-service men and their families willing to emigrate; and how many such families have been assisted during the past year, and what is the aggregate amount of money expended for that purpose?

In the absence of legislative provision for schemes of co-operation with the Oversea Governments, no action of the nature indicated has yet been possible, apart from the ex-service free passage scheme administered by the Oversea Settlement Committee, and wholly paid for by His Majesty's Government. Certain figures regarding that scheme were given in my reply to my hon. Friend's question of the 22nd February.

Army Offices

asked the Secretary of State for War whether, having regard to the Army Council Instruction issued last year, which stated that all (civilians employed in Army offices were to be replaced by ex-soldiers or ex-service men, he will say how many women are at present employed in Army offices; of those who are so employed how many are doing work formerly done by men; and whether it is proposed to replace them by ex-service men?

On 1st January last the number of women included in the total personnel of 9,224 in the offices in question was 767, of whom 151 were ex-service women. Of the remainder 140 are doing work formerly done by men, and are therefore regarded as liable for replacement as and when qualified ex-service men become available. As explained in the reply to my hon. and gallant Friend on the 16th instant, the Instruction to which he refers contemplated the displacement of non-service persons subject to the over-riding consideration of the efficiency of the Service.

Education (Choice Of Employment) Act

asked the President of the Board of Education what course the Board propose to adopt in the case of Part II authorities who are now exercising their powers under the Education (Choice of Employment) Act, 1910, when the existing schemes approved by the Board terminate on the 30th June, 1922, in accordance with Official Circular 1,233, in the event of new schemes consequent upon the issue of the Chelmsford Report not having been submitted to and approved by the Board by that date?

If an authority has passed a resolution indicating that it intends to exercise powers in accordance with Lord Chelmsford's Report, and if the circumstances are such as are indicated in the question, the Board will be prepared to give such reasonable extension to the approval of the existing scheme as will enable it to be replaced by a new one appropriate to the new conditions.

Cattle Market, Ashford

asked the Minister of Agriculture whether he can give any indication as to when the Ashford market will be allowed to be opened for the sale of store stock provided there is no fresh outbreak of foot-and-mouth disease in the district?

I shall be prepared to consider the reopening of AsLford market for the sale of store stock in about a fortnight's time, provided no further outbreaks of disease occur in the locality in the interval. The exact date will depend on the general outlook, but I am anxious to afford as much relief as can safely be given as soon as possible.

Forestry Fund

asked the hon. Member for Monmouth as representing the Forestry Commissioners when the account and Report for the financial year ending 31st March, 1921, referred to in Section 8, Sub-section (4), paragraph (1), of the Forestry Act, 1919, will be laid before Parliament?

The Report by the Comptroller and Auditor-General on the account of the Forestry Fund is included with his Reports on the Appropriation Accounts, 1920–21, of Civil Service and Revenue Departments, presented to Parliament and ordered by the Commons House of Parliament to be printed on 10th February, 1922, which have since been published.

Insured Persons, Blanchland (Medical Benefit)

asked the Minister of Health if insured persons in the village and district of Blanchland, Northumberland, are unable to get the medical attention for which they and their employers-pay under the National Health Insurance Act; that a Mrs. Brown, an insured person, had recently to pay £2 12s. 6d. for doctor's fees, and that generally sickness benefit cannot be, claimed owing to the cost of getting a doctor to sign the necessary certificate; and if he will take steps to stop this method of making poor people pay heavily for nothing?

After the death of the only doctor resident in Blanchland the Insurance Committees concerned made arrangements with the two nearest practitioners to assume responsibility for the treatment of the insured persons in this sparsely populated area. No complaint has been received from Mrs. Brown, but if the hon. and gallant Member will furnish me with further particulars I will have immediate inquiry made.

Cotton Duties, India

asked the Under-Secretary of State for India, if he is aware of the rejection by the Indian Legislative Assembly of the proposal to increase the cotton excise duty to 7½ per cent.; whether this decision will mean that a duty of 15 per cent. will be levied on the full value of all Lancashire cotton goods entering India with a countervailing excise duty of only 3½ per cent.; and whether the Secretary of State for India has made, or will make, representation to the Indian Legislative Assembly on the matter?

The Legislative Assembly has rejected the proposed increase of the cotton duty to 15 per cent., as well as that of the cotton excise to 7½ per cent.

Scotland

Motor Taxation And Road Grants

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Transport the licence duties collected in each registration area in Scotland, and the amount of grant given to each area, respectively, for the year 1921–22?

I deprecate the institution of comparisons between the amount of the collections from motor taxation in any particular area and the amount allocated in grants to that area. The Road Fund, to which the net proceeds of motor taxation accrue, is a national fund. Grants are distributed on general principles and apply equally to all parts of the country.

Electricity Supply Schemes

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Transport whether his Department has had under consideration a scheme for the supply of electricity by the Corporation of Edinburgh, to include the city of Edinburgh, the county of Midlothian, the county of East Lothian, and other areas; whether, in the case of East Lothian, an application has been lodged for powers in a certain area by the Musselburgh and District Electric Light and Traction Company; what is the present position of this application; and whether, in view of the fact that the needs of this large area must be considered together, he will arrange that the Corporation of Edinburgh shall be heard in the necessary inquiry before any powers are granted to the Musselburgh Company?

The Electricity Commissioners have given notice of a provisional determination of an electricity district for the area mentioned. The Musselburgh and District Electric Light and Traction Company have applied to the Electricity Commissioners for a special Order extending their area of supply. The Corporation of Edinburgh are opposing the granting of this Order, and will have the opportunity of stating their case before the Commissioners.

Post Office

International Reply Coupons

asked the Postmaster-General whether there is any method by which correspondents writing from this country to Russia, Poland, Austria, and other parts of the world, where the currency is greatly depreciated, may prepay replies in British money?

Under the provisions of the Postal Union Convention of 1920, the international reply coupons, sold at post offices in this country, can be used to obtain postage stamps for the prepayment of replies in any country in the Postal Union, without regard to the question of the rate of exchange. Up to the present Russia has not adhered to the Convention, but the other countries mentioned are members of the Union.

Night Letter Service, Carlisle

asked the Postmaster-General whether telegraph operators are employed throughout the night at the Warwick Road post office, Carlisle; and whether, in view of the fact that the telegraph offices at the Citadel station, Carlisle, are open to the public at all hours of the day and night, and that Carlisle is an important railway centre where the lines of seven railways converge, he will consider the desirability of making the station telegraph offices available for the receipt and despatch of telegrams under the night letter service?

There are no telegraph operators on duty at the head post office at Warwick Road, Carlisle, between 7.30 p.m. and 7 a.m. As regards the second part of the question, I would refer to the reply given to the hon. Member for Workington (Mr. Cape) on the 13th instant.

Postmarks

asked the Postmaster-General whether his attention has been called to the frequent illegibility of post-marks in this country; and whether he will consult the postmasters-general of Canada and other parts of the Empire, with a view to our imitating the methods by which they secure postmarks which everyone can read?

It is recognised that the impression of the postmarks made on letters by the mechanical stamping machines in the Post Office are not always as clear as could be desired. A large number of machines of the most modern type have, however, recently been installed in the sorting offices, and I hope that, when the staff have been thoroughly trained in their use, complaints of illegibility of postmarks will be of rare occurrence.

London Postal Service (Promotion)

asked the Postmaster-General on what principle promotions among superintending officers in the London postal service are based; whether it is a definite policy to withhold promotion from officers who are approaching the retiring age of 60 years, although such officers may have had practical working experience in the Department for as long as 40 years; if so, why officers are called upon to undergo promotion trials, in some cases of several months' duration, when it is not intended to give them the appointments; whether it is an instruction that officers passed over are to be informed of the grounds on which they have failed to qualify; and whether this instruction is not being carried out?

The general principle governing promotions in the London postal service, as in other branches of the Post Office, is to select those officers who are the best qualified for the performance of the higher work. It is not considered to be in the interests of the service to promote an officer who is approaching the age for retirement unless there are exceptional circumstances; and, as a general rule, officers are not employed as substitutes on the higher duties it they are unlikely eventually to be promoted. But employment on substitution duty does not, in itself, give any claim to promotion, and it cannot always be determined when an officer is placed on such duty whether he will be promoted or not. There is no instruction that officers passed over for promotion are to be informed, as a matter of course, of the grounds on which they have failed to qualify, but those who apply for the information are entitled to receive it.

Savings Bank Department (Supervisors)

asked the Financial Secretary to the Treasury whether, seeing that lower clerical work throughout the service is now standardised within strictly defined limits, he can state why an official regrading scheme of one of the departments of the Post Office suggests that the male clerical officers shall have a proportion of 1 in 5 higher to lower clerical posts, and the women clerical officers 1 in 24?

I have been asked to answer this question, which presumably refers to the Post Office Savings Bank. The difference in the proportion of higher posts is due to differences in the nature of the work performed in the branches staffed by men and women respectively. The women perform the bulk of the straightforward accounting work, which requires a smaller proportion of supervising force than does the more complicated work done in most of the branches staffed by men.

Living (Cost)

asked the Minister of Labour if he can supply any comparative table showing the relative rise in the cost of living now in Great Britain, France, Italy, the United States, and Germany?

1. Percentage rise in December, 1921 (the latest month for which it has been computed for all countries).
Country.Percentage Increase in December, 1921.
United Kingdom99
France—(a) Paris223*
(b) Provincial Towns249†
Italy—(a) Rome323
(b) Milan439
United States74
Germany1,450‡
* Food, fuel and light only.† Fourth Quarter, 1921.
‡ Food, house rent, fuel and light.
II. Percentage rise in each country, computed to the latest month for which the figures have been published in that country.
Country.Date to which Percentage relates.Percentage Increase.
United Kingdom1st March, 192280
France—(a) ParisSeptember, 1921*195*
(b) Provincial TownsFourth Quarter, 1921†249†
Italy—(a) RomeFebruary, 1922326
(b) MilanFebruary, 1922422
United StatesDecember, 192174
GermanyFebruary, 1922‡1,889‡.
* A later figure is available for food, fuel and light alone, namely, February, 1922, when the increase amounted to 207 per cent.
† Food, fuel and light only.
‡ Food, house rent, fuel and light.
NOTE.—The pre-war period from which the increase is calculated is July, 1914, in the case of the United Kingdom and France, January to June, 1914, in the case of Italy, 1913, in the case of the United States and 1913–14 in the case of Germany.

Commmunist Propaganda (Aliens)

asked the Home Secretary whether, in view of the recent inflammatory speeches and manifestoes of leading Communists in this country, whereby the intention is openly declared of using the industrial unrest, strikes, lock-outs, etc., to promote and stimulate revolution amongst the working classes of this country, he will take prompt and effective steps to arrest and deport all alien agents whose obvious mission here is to direct the revolution and provide funds to subsidise it?

The following tabular statement gives the percentage increase in cost of living as compared with pre-War period:

I would refer the hon. Member to the answer to a very similar question which my right hon. Friend gave him on 1st November last, and would repeat that aliens who can be proved to have incited to violence or committed other offences against the law are deported, if this course is practicable.

Telephone Works, Coventry (Special Constables)

asked the Home Secretary whether, following upon the lock-out of engineers, 40 members of the staff of Messrs. Peel, Connor's telephone works, Coventry, were sworn in as special constables; whether this enrolment of special constables was done at his request or with his approval; and, if so, can he state the reason?

My right hon. Friend has no information on this matter, which rests entirely with the local police authorities.

Capital Punishment

asked the Home Secretary whether his attention has been called to the remarks made at the inquest on James Hutton Williamson by the coroner to the effect that executions are a mistake, a barbaric system, and no detriment to crime; and whether he will set up a Committee to examine the arguments upon this subject or, alternatively, instruct a permanent official at the Home Office to receive and examine written arguments upon the matter?

I. ALL AREAS.
Year ended.Capital employed.Return to Capital employed.Percentage return to Capital employed.
(1)(2)(3)(4)
££
31st March, 19191,087,839153,49114·11
(43,999)
31st March, 19201,185,509196,81916·60
(35,709)
31st March, 19211,251,605138,81911·09
(32,320)
II. CARLISLE AREA.
££
31st March, 1919834,123130,78215·68
(34,263)
31st March, 1920884,888163,72718·50
(24,464)
31st March, 1921929,696130,07113·99
(21,695)
The figure in Column 2 is the mean of the Capital employed at the beginning and at the end of each period.
The figure in Column 3 is made up of the interest (shown separately in brackets) charged on the net Exchequer advances and on other outstanding liabilities, together with the further sum accumulated out of profits and accruing to the Exchequer towards replacement of capital cost.

The answer to the first part of the question is in the affirmative, and to the second part in the negative.

Liquor Traffic (State Management)

asked the Home Secretary whether he can state the percentage return to capital employed in the State purchase undertakings for each of the last three years, so as to enable an opinion to be formed as to their commercial success; and whether he will give separately in his answer the figures for the Carlisle area?

In the subjoined Table I give the figures asked for, but I think it right to add that a bare statement of the percentage return to capital employed would not, speaking generally, afford a very sure foundation for an opinion as to the success of an ordinary commercial undertaking, or for a comparison of it with similar concerns.