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Written Answers

Volume 159: debated on Thursday 14 December 1922

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Written Answers

Agriculture

Sked Potatoes, Scotland (Wart Disease)

asked the Minister of Agriculture whether, in connection with the entry of seed potatoes from Scotland to England and Wales, it is proposed to issue a further Order for the purpose of providing greater protection against the spread of wart disease to those districts where at present it is not known to exist; whether this would include an extensive area in Scotland; what is the attitude of the Scottish Board of Agriculture in the matter; and whether official and other representations have been made stating that such restrictions are unnecessary and would have a ruinous effect on the Scottish potato-growing industry?

I have been asked to reply. The reply to the first part of the question is in the affirmative. The exact form of the Order is at present under consideration. My right hon. Friend is in communication with my Noble Friend the Secretary for Scotland, with a view to securing the co-operation of the Board of Agriculture for Scotland in the matter. With regard to the last part, I may say that representatives of English growers have strongly pressed for a revision of the present Order.

Prices (Committee Of Inquiry)

asked the Minister of Agriculture whether he will consider taking steps to establish a Government permanent marketing office for agricultural produce as in Canada?

I have been asked to reply. The question whether any Government action is necessary or desirable in connection with the marketing of agricultural produce is one which will, no doubt, be considered by the Committee on the distribution and prices of agricultural produce which has just been set up. Until their Report has been received it would be premature to take any action.

Small Holdings (Civilians)

asked the Minister of Agriculture when it is the intention of the Government to remove the restrictions on civilians with regard to small holdings; and whether he will consider the advisability of doing so in those counties where the requirements of the ex-service men have been satisfied?

I have been asked to reply. The present position is that a county council or council of a county borough cannot provide and let a small holding to any person who is not an ex-service man except with the Ministry's consent. This is to ensure that a preference in the provision of small holdings is given to ex-service applicants, but in cases where there is no suitable ex-service applicant prepared to take a holding which is vacant, the Ministry consents to it being let to a civilian. My right hon. Friend is prepared to consider any definite scheme for the provision of small holdings for civilians which may be submitted by any county council which has satisfied the requirements of the ex-service applicants provided that it does not impose any further charge on the Exchequer.

Drainage And Subsoiling Implements (Trials At Tonbridge And Harmston)

asked the Minister of Agriculture when it will be possible to issue interim, or the official, Reports of the results of the demonstrations of agricultural machinery held last year at Harmston, in Lincolnshire, and of the demonstration at Tonbridge this autumn; and whether, in future, steps will be taken to issue Reports at an early date after the completion of demonstrations?

I have been asked to reply. It is hoped to issue at an early date an interim Report on the trials of drainage implements at Harmston and Tonbridge. The work at Harmston and Tonbridge also formed part of a series of trials of subsoiling implements which will be extended over some years, but a preliminary Report is now in print and will appear in the issue of the Ministry's Journal for January, 1923. With regard to the last part, arrangements will be made to issue a preliminary Report on trials of importance whenever it is not possible to issue a complete Report within a reasonable period.

Salmon And Freshwater Fisheries Bill

asked the Minister of Agriculture if he proposes to proceed with the Salmon and Freshwater Fisheries Bill at an early date next Session?

Trade And Commerce

Woollen And Worsted Tissues (Exports)

asked the President of the Board of Trade the quantity and value of woollen and worsted fabrics exported from Great Britain for the 11 months of each of the years 1913, 1919, and 1922?

The following statement shows the quantity and value

Period.Woollen Tissues.Worsted Tissues.
Eleven months ended 30th November—Yards.£Yards.£
1913……………97,000,20013,315,79956,104,8005,579,742
1919……………118,224,80053,904,73629,690,20010,550,781
Sq. yards.Sq. yards.
1922……………110,004,00022,917,39956,513,70010,713,549
NOTE.—From 1st January, 1920, the exports of woolen and worsted tissues have been recorded is square yards instead of linear yards as in earlier years.

Imports And Exports, Great Britain, Germany And South America

asked the President of the Board of Trade the value in sterling of exports during the year 1913 from the United Kingdom to Brazil, Uruguay, Argentina, and Chile, respectively; the value in sterling of exports during the year 1913 from Germany to these South American countries, respectively; the value in sterling of imports during the year 1913 into the United Kingdom from Germany; and the value in sterling of exports during the year 1913 from the United Kingdom to Germany?

The following statement shows the values of exports from the United Kingdom and Germany, respectively, to each of the countries specified, in the year 1913:

Country to which exported.United Kingdom exports of domestic produce and manufactures.Exports from Germany.
££
Brazil12,465,0009,820,000
Uruguay2,916,0001,760,000
Argentine Republic22,641,00013,070,000
Chile6,011,0004,810,000
Germany40,677,000—
The value of imports into the United Kingdom consigned from Germany during the year 1913 was £80,411,000.

Australian Zinc Concentrates

asked the President of the Board of Trade if any attempt has been made to terminate the spelter and

of woollen and worsted tissues of domestic manufacture exported from the United Kingdom during the 11 months ended 30th November of each of the years 1913, 1919, and 1922:

zinc concentrates agreement entered into with the Australian Government; and, if so, with what result?

No opportunity has arisen of terminating the agreements for the purchase of spelter and zinc concentrates which were entered into with an Australian company, but discussions have, taken place which may result in some modification of the contracts.

Messrs J & P Coats, Limited (Advertisement)

asked the President of the Board of Trade if the four-page eulogy of Messrs. J. and P. Coats, Limited, which appeared in the Board of Trade Journal of 23rd November last, was paid for as an advertisement; and, if not, whether he will take steps to prevent such expenditure of public money?

The pages in question were among the advertisement pages of the Board of Trade Journal and numbered as such, and were paid for as an advertisement. Consequently the second part of the question does not arise.

Imported Eggs

asked the President of the Board of Trade what steps are taken to prevent foreign eggs being sold as English eggs, either alone or mixed with those produced in England?

Under the Sale of Food Order, 1921, which remains in force under the Expiring Laws Act, 1922, no imported eggs may be sold as "fresh" or "new laid" unless the description also includes the word "imported" or words disclosing the country of origin.

Dried-Feuit Tbade

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he is aware that a ring exists in the wholesale dried-fruit trade, which artificially restricts competition; that, in the week ending the 25th November last, the brokers were forced by dealers to withdraw from public auction the whole of their available stocks of raisins, thus stifling outside competition and keeping up prices; and whether he will adopt measures to prevent such action being taken in the, future?

The dried-fruit trade is limited and largely seasonal in character, and I understand that anticipation of increased demand has recently caused unwillingness to sell. The natural antidote to this tendency consists in the falling value of supplies unsold before Christmas, and I do not propose to interfere with the operation of the laws of supply and demand.

Rubber Exports, Straits Settlements (Ordinance)

asked the Under-Secretary of State for the Colonies why the Ordinance recently passed in the Legislative Council of the Straits Settlements to restrict the export of rubber was not sent to London for the signification of the Royal pleasure, as prescribed by the instructions under the letters patent constituting the office of Governor of the said Settlements?

The Ordinance is being sent home for the signification of His Majesty's pleasure in the ordinary way, but it was not reserved pending the signification of such pleasure, seeing that it gave effect to recommendations of the Secretary of State, and the Governor was clearly satisfied that immediate operation was necessary.

Cotton Piece Goods (Imports, India)

asked the Under-Secretary of State for India whether there is any evidence in his Department tending to show whether the decline, as compared with the previous period, in the purchase of Lancashire cotton goods in India from the beginning of 1921 to the present time is primarily due to the non-co-operation boycott and political feeling against this country generally or to trade depression and fluctuations in the rupee exchange?

The appended tables show the total import of cotton piece goods into India from the United Kingdom during the period January, 1921, to September, 1922 (the latest month for which figures are available), in comparison with the total imports for earlier periods. It will be seen that the average for 1921 is 28 per cent, and that of 1922 (first nine months) 19 per cent, below that of 1920. In the production of this decline there was certainly other important factors besides the non-co-operation boycott and political feeling. The following extract from the review of the year 1921 published by the Calcutta Import Trade Association well represents, I believe, the views generally held by those engaged in the trade:

"There has been practically no active market for imported piece goods during the past year largely on account of the heavy value and quantity of high-priced goods left over from the high rupee exchange period …. This depression is still with us to-day (February, 1922) and it is not yet clear when definite relief will come. To add to the exceptional difficulties under which the piece goods import trade has been labouring a heavy enhancement of Customs Duty was made in the early part of the year …. Non-co-operation activities have also restricted the free movement of commodities and must also have forcibly prevented consumption of supplies in many districts, whilst during the last three months of the year Calcutta bazaar dealers refrained from forward purchases by an agreement now expired."
On the other hand, there has been one important factor making for a trade revival, namely, the good monsoons of last year, and this, and, in fact, the volume of imports in the period July to September this year, was greater by more than one-third than that of any similar period in the past year and a half, and almost double that of the corresponding period in 1921.It is impossible to calculate definitely to what extent the failing off in trade has been due to any one factor, but it seems clear from what is said above that the non-co-operation boycott cannot have been responsible for the loss of more than a small percentage of the trade. I believe that the comparative smallness of the decline in the volume of trade is not always realised in consequence of the fall in values.
Imports of Cotton Piece Goods into India from United Kingdom.
(Thousands of Yards.)
Monthly average for 1912…228,004
Monthly average for 1913…256,859
Monthly average for 1919…63,358
Monthly average for 1920…114,369
Monthly average for 1921…83,010
Monthly average for 1922*…93,084
*First nine months.
1921.
January………102,859
February………89,000
March………91,015
April………88,070
May………58,779
June………49,237
July………56,520
August………65,620
September………80,457
October………103,181
November………119,914
December………91,460
1922.
January………102,451
February………72,495
March………59,206
April………62,604
May………68,861
June………72,791
July………126,636
August………156,192
September………116,514

Meat Exports, Australia And New Zealand (Subsidies)

asked the Under-Secretary of State for the Colonies if he has any information that the Commonwealth Government of Australia grant a subsidy of one farthing per pound on all beef exported: is any subsidy granted on exports of meat from New Zealand; if so, what is the amount of such subsidy; and is any further assistance given by either of these Governments to the export of meat by way of reduced shipping freights or by any other means?

The Commonwealth of Australia grants certain subsidies under the Meat Export Bounties Act, 1922, of which I am sending a copy to my hon. Friend. As far as I am aware, no other subsidies, direct or indirect, are given to the export of meat by cither the Commonwealth or New Zealand.

Mercantile Marine

War-Risks Scheme

asked the President of the Board of Trade if he is aware of the widespread dissatisfaction existing in regard to the present system of administering the mercantile marine war-risks scheme, and that this has been expressed on behalf of all classes of the mercantile marine by its four representative associations; that general irritation and much hardship is caused by the great delays in dealing with applications sent in by seamen to the Reparation Claims Department, dated, in many cases, two years ago; and can he assure this House that, during the Recess both these matters will receive sympathetic consideration with a view to prompt administrative action?

I have received a limited number of representations to the effect mentioned in the question. The answer to the last part of the question is in the affirmative.

Contributory Pension Scheme

asked the Prime Minister if he is aware of the widespread desire amongst officers of the British mercantile marine for the establishment of a contributory superannuation or pension scheme under Government auspices and with Government assistance; whether he has considered this matter; and with what result?

I have been asked to reply. The establishment of a contributory pension scheme for the mercantile marine has often been suggested, but the only scheme that has so far proved to be practicable is a non-contributory scheme based on the employers' contributions in respect of seamen non-insurable under the Health and Unemployment Insurance Acts. Under this scheme a limited number of small pensions are paid to officers and men of the mercantile marine.

Surplus Government Castings (Sales, Grimsby)

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he is aware that the Disposals Board have been selling castings at Grimsby at less than pig-iron prices; that towing block bottoms, which cannot now be produced for less than 37s. 6d., have been sold at 5s.; that complaints have been made on the subject by reputable firms of ironworkers who find that this action has seriously injured their trade; and, if so, whether he proposes to take any action in the matter?

I regret that in the absence of detailed information it has not been possible to trace the sales referred to in the question, but I shall be glad to make further inquiries if the hon. Member will furnish me with the details.

Coal Industry

Nystagmus

asked the Secretary for Mines the number of claims for compensation for miner's nystagmus which were reported in each of the four preceding years; and whether he will institute a Commission of Inquiry into the causes of this disease, with the view of eliminating the industrial loss and the personal suffering consequent upon its prevalence in the mining industry?

According to statistics furnished by the Home Office, the total number of workmen in receipt of compensation for nystagmus was 6,449 during 1919; 7,028 during 1920 and 6,717 during 1921. Statistics on this point were not collected for the year 1918. At the request of my advisers an expert Committee of Inquiry into the causes of nystagmus was set up by the Medical Research Council in 1920. The first Report of the Committee was published at the beginning of this year and the Committee is still at work.

Winding Machinery And Equipment

asked the Secretary for Mines whether he will consider the necessity for an order to be issued by his Department requiring that over-winding apparatus shall be so fixed or attached to winding engines as to come into operation before the conclusion of the wind, instead of after completion of the wind, as now generally affixed, and so as to act as a preventative of excessive speed, and also to offer some real protection and security for life and property from the provision of such apparatus?

asked the Secretary for Mines whether he will consider the advisability of causing inquiry to be made by the divisional inspectors of mines in relation to the proper provision and equipment of sanitary arrangements in colliery winding engine houses; the provision of efficient signal indicators; and the provision of over-winding apparatus as provided by the Mines Act, 1911; and is he aware that such provisions are not in many cases being carried out in the spirit and intention of the Mines Act?

The inspection of the equipment and arrangements referred to is carried on regularly as part of the daily work of the inspectors of mines under the direction of the divisional inspectors. The results of these inspections do not bear out the suggestion in the last part of the hon. Member's question.

asked the Secretary for Mines if he will consider the advisability of appointing men of practical experience for the purpose of inspecting machinery such as winding engines and other machinery used in the raising and lowering of persons employed in or about a mine; if he will consider men who have served years of experience as winding-enginemen as being the class of men from whom such inspectors should be selected on account of their practical knowledge and experience; and whether he will take steps to at once go into this matter in the interests of safety and security?

The mines inspectorate, as at present staffed, is qualified to inspect winding machinery, and I do not consider it necessary to appoint special inspectors for the purpose.

Royal Navy

Contractors (Compensation)

asked the First Lord of the Admiralty whether, under the late Government, sums of public money were passed by the Admiralty and paid by the Treasury to warship building contractors additional to payments for work actually due; and, if so, will he give the names of those contractors, the amounts they received, and the grounds on which payment was made?

In a few isolated cases payments have been made, in compensation to such contractors for loss of profit and establishment charges for broken contracts. These payments are only made after it has been proved by the closest examination that they are legally due. It is not in the public interest to publish the amounts which these contractors have severally received.

Messrs T W Ward, Limited (Faik Wages Clause)

asked the Financial Secretary to the Admiralty whether he is aware that Messrs. W. T. Ward have at present at Milford Haven four battleships, namely, the "Prince of Wales," "Amphitrite," "Argonaut," and the "Minotaur," and about a dozen destroyers for breaking up, and of complaints that the highest wage paid to labourers by this firm is £2 4s. per week, whereas the district rate is from £2 10s. to £ 4s., and that boys are employed on leaving school to learn acetylene burning, commencing at a wage of 10s. per week, rising to 15s. to 20s. per week when they become efficient, and if on piece-work are paid 1s. per ton less than the rate paid to men, and that, in order to obtain cheap labour, persons without previous experience are employed driving cranes, locomotives, and other machines, to the danger of themselves and others working near; and whether he will have inquiries made into these allegations and take whatever steps are necessary to ensure compliance with the Fair Wages Clause?

The ships in question have been sold to Messrs. T. W. Ward, Limited, under a contract which contains the usual Fair Wages Clause. No complaint has been received that the conditions of this Clause are not being complied with by the firm at Milford Haven, but the allegations put forward by the hon. Member shall be inquired into.

Dockyard Wages (Children's Allowances)

asked the Financial Secretary to the Admiralty whether he has considered the possibility of meeting the difficulty of paying a living wage to dockyard men by some system of children's allowances supplementary to wages; whether he is aware that such a system, introduced by voluntary agreement between employers and employés, is spreading rapidly on the Continent, especially in France and Germany; that in France it already covers about 2½ million wage earners, estimated to be nearly half the wage earners of France, excluding agriculturists; that the numbers covered by the system include all State employés; and whether, in view of the importance of the subject, he will direct that full inquiries shall be made into the working of the system on the Continent?

The wages of dockyard men are not low in comparison with the wages paid in commercial industry, and the suggestion contained in my hon. Friend's question is not one which the Board is prepared to adopt.

French Navy (Submarines)

asked the Financial Secretary to the Admiralty the number of submarines which France has now in commission, including the submarines taken over from Germany, the number building, and the tonnage of the latest types of these vessels now in construction in French Admiralty and private yards?

According to the latest information, France has 28 submarines in full commission, including nine submarines taken over from Germany. There are also 20 submarines in reserve, including one ex-German vessel and one new vessel completing. Six submarines of 1,082 tons surface displacement are building in Government yards, and six of 570 tons surface displacement in private yards.

British Army

Clasps

asked the Under-Secretary of State for War whether any decision has yet been arrived at by the Army Council with regard to bars to medals awarded for service during the late War; and, if not, whether, pending such decision, he will approach the Admiralty with a view to their cancelling the Fleet Order of June, 1920, approving of the award of naval clasps?

asked the Under-Secretary of State for War whether any decision has been reached as to the clasps to be given for actions in the Great War?

No decision as to clasps has yet been reached. With regard to the last part of the first question, I am not in a position to intervene in the manner suggested.

Chemical Warfare

asked the Under-Secretary of State for War whether he will give the figures of expenditure incurred in the last financial year, in Britain and in France, for experiments directed to the preparation and perfecting of chemical warfare; the number of public and private laboratories in which such experiments are being made in Britain and in France with official sanction; and the number of persons employed in those experiments?

I regret I am not in a position to furnish the comparative statement required.

French Heavy Guns

asked the Under-Secretary of State for War the calibre and extreme range of the latest French heavy gun, and the number of those guns now constructed or in course of construction?

The latest such gun in use is believed to be the 305 millimetre (railway mounting) gun, with a range of 31,000 metres. I am not in a position to reply to the remainder of the question.

Enfield And Waltham Abbey Factories (Wages)

asked the Financial Secretary to the War Office whether he is aware that no adjustment has yet been made in the case of the building trades operatives employed at the Enfield small arms factory and the Waltham Abbey gunpowder factory consequent on the extension of the London radius in February, 1920, although repeated applications have been made for the increase of wages due to the men as a consequence of the radius extension, and replies have been sent to the men concerned on several occasions during the past two years promising an early consideration of the matter; and whether he will now agree that the operatives concerned shall be treated in the same way as similar operatives working at Woolwich Arsenal?

Yes, Sir; the latest phase of this complicated question is that a representative of the men in question was informed a month ago that if an application was made through the proper channel for an advance equivalent to the advance in local rates due to the inclusion of Waltham and Enfield in the London building trade area, it would be favourably considered, as a temporary adjustment pending settlement of the other questions in dispute, the consideration of which is proceeding. For some reason which I do not understand, the men have not availed themselves of this opportunity.

Civil Aviation (Records)

asked the Secretary of State for Air what is the total distance accomplished by any British aeroplane engaged on ore or other of the passenger air routes, and on what air line the record was made and the line on which the next best record was achieved?

The greatest total distance flown by any British aeroplane engaged on the passenger air routes is 100,393 miles by a D.H.34 aeroplane, operated by the Daimler Hire Company. The next best record is held by an aero plane belonging to the Air Ministry, type D.H. 18, which has been used by various firms, but chiefly by the Instone Air Line. This aeroplane has flown approximately 70,000 miles. While these performances of course reflect credit both on the con- structing and operating firms, I should add that the data are as yet insufficient for a definite conclusion as to the respective merits, either of types of aeroplane or of methods of operation.

Royal Air Force (Depot, Harlescott)

asked the Secretary of State for Air whether he can give any further information as to the sites alleged to be vacant in the possession of the Royal Air Force depot at Harlescott, Salop?

The accommodation at present vacant consists of about 12 barrack blocks situated at the south-west portion of the camp, adjacent to the railway line. These are required to meet any further increase in the strength of the Royal Air Force at Harlescott. There is also unoccupied at present a portion of the women's hostel, which is needed for conversion into airmen's married quarters as soon as funds can be made available.

Naval And Military Pensions And Grants

Convalescent Camp, Saltash

asked the Minister of Pensions whether it is proposed to close down the Queen Alexandra Convalescent Camp, Saltash?

I would refer the hon. Member to the answer which I gave on Tuesday to the hon. Member for Bodmin (Mr. Foot).

Medical Examinations

asked the Minister of Pensions if he has received complaints from ex-service men regarding the methods adopted by medical boards respecting their examinations; whether he is aware that numbers of men who have recently appeared before these boards complain that proper examination does not take place; and whether, in view of the serious nature of these complaints, he will institute an inquiry with a view to allaying suspicion and distrust?

I have received some complaints of this nature which, I am glad to say, have proved on investigation to be without substance. Full instructions have been given to medical boards in order to ensure an adequate examination of all cases, and the work of the boards is subject to periodic inspection by officers from the headquarters of the Ministry. I am satisfied that the medical boards discharge their duties with efficiency and at the same time with every consideration for the men.

Medical Boards

asked the Minister of Pensions whether the medical boards are composed of permanent officers of the Ministry; if so, the number of officers so employed and their salaries; and, if the boards are composed of medical men drawn from panels of local practitioners, will he state the fees paid for individual examination and the total cost for 1921 for such payments?

The personnel of the medical boards of the Ministry is very largely drawn from local practitioners, who receive the following fees:

£s.d.
Chairmen (for a session of 2½ hours1116
Specialists220
Ordinary members or assessors163
Considerable assistance is now given on this work by full-time medical officers of the Ministry, of whom some 200 are liable for this service as part of their duties. The average salaries of these officers is approximately £924 per annum. The total expenditure on payments to sessional members of the boards was, in 1921, £627,795. The corresponding figure for the current year will be more than one-third less, owing to a reduction of the sessional fees payable, and of the number of members of ordinary boards from three to two.

Administration, Scotland And Lancashire

asked the Minister of Pensions whether the establishment of an issue office in Scotland has resulted in reducing delay in paying pensions; and whether he can state the number and amount of advances made to men owing to Papers not arriving at the proper time during the three months ending 30th September, 1922, in Scotland and the Lancashire region, respectively?

The amount of advances made to pensioners during the period stated was £185 in Scotland, and in the north-western region, where exceptional conditions prevailed, £5,212. The difficulties in the latter region are being overcome.

asked the Minister of Pensions whether he is aware that all pensions for men in Lancashire are awarded at Manchester, whilst all Ring Papers giving effect to these decisions are made out in London; and, seeing that the reference to London causes delay in issue, will he have new arrangements made?

I would refer my hon. Friend to the answer I gave to the hon. Member for Nottingham West (Mr. Hayday) on the 30th ultimo, of which I am sending him a copy.

Disability Pensions

asked the Minister of Pensions whether his Department are pursuing the practice of making weekly deductions from disabled men's pensions, as refunds of allowances granted by Local Pensions Committees during periods of treatment as long ago as 1919; and, if so, under what authority this is being done?

I would refer the hon. Member to the reply which I am giving to-day to a similar question by the hon. Member for Middlesbrough West (Mr. T. Thomson), of which I am sending him a copy.

asked the Minister of Pensions whether he is aware that Driver David Morgan Davies, No. T/37,729, Royal Army Service Corps, 5, Garden Street, Rhymney, has been deprived by the Appeals Tribunal of his pension; that the tribunal admitted that the man had suffered from malaria due to service in Salonika; and what steps he now proposes to take, seeing that the man has developed chest trouble and is totally incapacitated from following his employment?

The Pensions Appeal Tribunal having confirmed and thus made final the decision of the Ministry rejecting the claim to pension for chest trouble, I regret that that matter cannot be reopened. If, however, disablement from malaria has increased, renewed application for compensation therefor may be made through the local area office.

Aetificial Limbs (Me Muirhead Little)

asked the Minister of Pensions whether his attention has been drawn to a letter in the Press on the subject of American artificial limbs, signed by Mr. E. Muirhead Little; and, if this Mr. Little is a member of the Ministry Advisory Council on artificial limbs, whether his letter was written with his approval?

Mr. Muirhead Little is a member of my Advisory Council on artificial limbs, and is not a salaried officer of the Ministry. The letter referred to expresses his private and personal views and was not submitted to my Department before publication.

Childeen's Allowance (F Pounder)

asked the Minister of Pensions whether the Pensions Issue Office has cleared up the case of arrears of children's allowance due to the wife of Private F. Pounder, No. 32,553, Royal Army Veterinary Corps; and what is the reason for the prolonged delay in this case?

I regret the delay which has occurred in this case which has now, however, been settled.

Gratuity (C O'donovan)

asked the Minister of Pensions whether he is aware that the regional director, Ministry of Pensions, Cardiff, has awarded Private Cornelius O'Donovan, No. N/395,508, Royal Army Service Corps, a gratuity of £5 in full discharge of the Ministry s liability; and will he explain if this be the policy adopted in all cases when men are suffering less than 20 per cant, disablement?

Disablement has at no time been assessed higher than 6–14 per cent, in this case, and three separate awards of weekly allowances have been made. On a fourth assessment of slight disablement a final gratuity of £5 was granted, which is the appropriate compensation. The assessments of the Ministry have been confirmed by the Pensions Appeal Tribunal and are now final.

Widows' Pensions (Mrs Phillips)

asked the Minister of Pensions whether he will reconsider the case of Mrs. Phillips, the widow of the late Private John Phillips, No. 250, Royal Marines, whose pension was stopped in July, 1921, with a view to restoring the same or making provision for her seven children, who are now dependant upon charity?

This man was discharged from the Navy in 1914 and died three years later from a disease which could not be regarded as due to service. As the right of appeal had not at that time been conceded to widows, Mrs. Phillips applied to the Special Grants Committee, who granted her a special allowance, subject to periodic review, under the Regulations then existing. In 1921 the Committee decided that in the circumstances of the case the continuance of the allowance to the widow could no longer be justified. I may add that the refusal of pension by the Ministry has recently been confirmed by the Pensions Appeal Tribunal.

Mothers' Pensions (Mrs E Davies)

asked the Minister of Pensions whether he will investigate the case of Mrs. E. Davies, 112, William Street, Ystrad, Rhondda; whether he is aware that Mrs. Davies is a widow, aged 59; that her only child, Private F. J. C. Davies, No. 234,661, Royal Air Force, was passed for service in September, 1918, discharged in February, 1919, on a pension of 27s. per week, went to college in October, 1919, and started as a certificated teacher under the Rhondda Education Committee, 1st September, 1921, but had to leave through illness in the afternoon of that day, and died in hospital 25th October, 1921, the death certificate stating chronic nephritis three years; that the mother has declared sole dependency upon this only boy; and that she has been denied a pension on the ground that she is not incapable of earning her living; whether this refusal is to be adhered to in spite of the fact that her doctor has certified that she is suffering from gastritis and neurasthenia; and whether he will take the necessary steps to rectify this treatment of a widowed mother?

I am making inquiries into this case and will communicate with the hon. Member as soon as possible.

India

Army Equipment

asked the Under-Secretary of State for India to what extent the recommendations for equipment, etc., submitted by the Army Departments concerned have been cut down by the Finance Department in India; and whether he is aware that the limit of safety has been passed in the matter of equipment and transport?

The answer to the first part of the question is in the negative. As regards the second part, I am not aware that the Commander-in-Chief has so advised the Government of India.

Libels Upon Government Servants

asked the Under-Secretary of State for India whether, considering that the Governments of the Punjab, Bengal, Madras, and Burma have already taken action in the matter, the Government of India will now issue instructions that legal assistance in bringing actions against the offending newspapers is to be given to all Government servants, both British and Indian, who have been defamed in the Indian Press?

I think it is evident from the facts stated in the question that there is no reason to suggest to the Government of India the issue of any further orders.

asked the Under-Secretary of State for India whether, with reference to his reply to Question No. 4 of the 12th instant, he will communicate to the Government of India the desirability of bringing in legislation to protect the Civil Services and the police in India from vilification by the non-co-operation Press in India similar to that lately brought in for the protection of Indian ruling chiefs and princes?

The hon. and gallant Member must be aware of the peculiar difficulties which, in practice, made it impossible for ruling chiefs to obtain redress against libels published in British India by recourse to the Law Courts. He must also be aware of the reciprocal obligations existing between British India and the native states for the prevention of sedition. The position of public servants presents no analogy. So far as attacks upon their conduct are attempts to excite disaffection against the lawfully established Government, the ordinary criminal law provides a remedy. Against personal libels they have the same means of redress as any other subject of the Crown, and the hon. and gallant Member knows that this means has been successfully employed.

Education

Provision Of Meals

asked the President of the Board of Education if the Board has advised local education authorities not to feed school children whose malnutrition is due to temporary or chronic destitution of their parents; and why, seeing that the Education Act, 1921, does not permit differentiation among the many causes of malnutrition, this action has been taken?

I find in Section 84 of the Education Act, 1921, no authority for thinking that it was the intention of Parliament that a considerable part of the burden of the relief of destitution should be shifted on to the education rate and the Vote of the Board of Education. I have seen no reason to depart from the principles of administration laid down in this respect by the late Government and my predecessor.

Teachers' Salaries (War Service)

asked the President of the Board of Education whether he is aware that, under Circular 1227, which defines military service recognised for increments under the Burnham scales, many hardships are being inflicted upon men who rendered military service; and that all service rendered by women with the forces of the Crown in any military or military-aid capacity is denied recognition for increments under the Burnham scales owing to the Board's refusal to pay grants on such increments; and whether he will take the necessary" steps to amend the terms of Circular 1227 so as to obviate these injustices to men and women who rendered service during the War?

Circular 1227, which was issued after very careful consideration of all the circumstances, represents the extent to which the Board have authority to recognise War service for the calculation of grant upon teachers' salaries; and I cannot undertake to re-open the matter.

Secondary Schools (Free Places)

asked the President of the Board of Education whether it is the intention of the Board to limit the percentage of free places in secondary schools that have hitherto provided full and complete secondary education to all their pupils to 25 per cent, of the places available in such schools?

Under Article 20 of the Board's Draft Regulations for secondary schools the present percentage of free places offered must not, without the sanction of the Board, exceed the percentage awarded in the school year ending 31st July, 1922. The draft Article does not require a reduction in the percentage awarded.

Transport

Dingwall And Cromarty Light Railway

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Transport if he is aware that in 1913–14 the Government of the day sanctioned and assisted the Dingwall and Cromarty Light Railway; that the railway was started and 4½ miles of it had been laid when war broke out; that the work was then stopped and after a time the rails that were laid were taken to France; that this railway is still a necessity for the fishing and agricultural community in that part; that there is unemployment in the district; and will he take all possible steps to get the railway restarted and completed?

I am aware that this project was sanctioned and the work started before the War. During the War the permanent-way materials were required for military purposes, but, as the right hon. Member knows, the company were reimbursed for this material and for the cost of relaying. The conditions which it would be necessary to fulfil before the Government could consider the question of increasing its contribution have already been communicated to the promoters, but, so far as I am aware, the local financial support necessary before any grant could be considered is not as yet forthcoming.

Tilbury Line, Midland Bailway (Electrification)

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Transport whether he is aware that a Clause was inserted in the Midland Railway (London, Tilbury, and Southend Railway Company Purchase) Bill in July, 1912, to the effect that the company should forthwith prepare a scheme for working the traffic by electric power on the route between Fenchurch Station and Southend-on-Sea; and what extension of time has been granted to this company to carry out the obligation imposed on them by Act of Parliament when the Bill was passed into law?

I am aware of the provisions of Section 21 of the Midland Railway (London, Tilbury, and Southend Railway Purchase) Act, 1912, to which the hon. and gallant Member refers. That Section provided that the Midland Railway Company should apply to Parliament for any powers necessary to carry out an electrification scheme not later than the Session of 1914, and the period so limited was extended by an Act of 1914 to the Session of 1916, and by an Order, under the Special Acts (Extension of Time) Act, 1915, to the Session of 1917. There have been no further extensions.

London And South Western Railway (Winsham Halt, Somerset)

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Transport whether, in the interest of a large area round Winsham, Somerset, and of the numerous unemployed resident therein, he will endeavour to obtain a reconsideration of the decision given regarding the suggested halt and siding at Winsham by the London and South Western Railway officials?

The Ministry have no statutory power to intervene in this matter, which is one within the discretion of the railway company. I am, however, bringing my hon. Friend's question to the company's notice.

Workmen's Railway Fares, Clydeside

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Transport if he is aware that workmen's railway fares on the Clydeside are in some cases nearly 200 per cent, above the pre-War level; that there is no proposal to reduce them below the present high level; and whether he will use his influence with the railway companies to make some concession to this section of travellers?

I would refer the hon. Member to the answer given on the 5th instant to the hon. Member for Renfrew, Eastern Division (Mr. Nichol), of which I am sending him a copy.

Railway Passenger Fares

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Transport whether he will make representations to the railway companies in favour of a reduction in third-class railway fares and workmen's railway tickets?

The railway companies have announced that the ordinary passenger fares will be reduced on and from 1st January next, but state they cannot agree at present to any reduction in workmen's fares. I would remind the hon. Member that the Minister has now no power of directing the railway companies as to their charges, but that Sections 60 and 78 of the Railways Act, 1921, provide a means by which representations may be made to the Rates Tribunal for a reduction in such charges.

Wandsworth And Putney Bridges (Widening)

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Transport whether his attention has been drawn to the proposal put forward by certain Metropolitan borough councils for the widening of Wandsworth Bridge; and whether the Ministry has considered the relative urgency of that work as compared with the widening of Putney Bridge?

This matter comes within the jurisdiction of the London County Council, who have, I understand, decided, after full consideration, that the widening of Putney Bridge Bridge should be given precedence to the widening of Wandsworth Bridge. I need hardly say that I attach importance to the considered opinion of the London County Council in such matters.

London And North Western Railway (Services, Yorkshire)

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Transport if he will bring the complaints of the travelling public to the notice of the railway companies, especially those who use the Clifton Road branch of the London and North Western Railway Company in Brighouse, Yorkshire, to the effect that from Bradford to Clifton Road there is no train between 8.55 a.m. and 11.50 a.m., from Clifton Road to Bradford between 2 p.m. and 5 p.m., from Bradford to Clifton Road between 5.52 p.m. and 9.17 p.m., the 9.17 p.m. being the last train, while between Bradford and Clifton Road there are no trains on Sundays, and between Clifton Road and Huddersfield there is no train between 9.8 a.m. and 12.4 p.m., nor is there a train between 2 p.m. and 4.52 p.m. nor between 6.13 p.m. and 9.35 p.m.?

The Ministry have no compulsory powers in relation to train services, but I am inviting the observations of the London and North Western Railway Company upon the hon. Member's question, and I will communicate with him on receipt of their reply.

Great Western Railway (Station, Cwmcarn)

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Transport if he is aware that there is no railway station at Cwmcarn, Monmouthshire; that the inhabitants have been pressing the Great Western Railway Company for many years to erect a station there; that there are several thousand population residing at Cwmcarn and that there is no station within nearly two miles; and will he use his good offices with the Great Western Railway Company with a view to getting a station made there?

The Ministry of Transport has no statutory powers in this matter, which is one for the consideration of the railway company. I am, however, bringing the hon. Member's suggestion to the company's notice.

Russia

Refugees (Maintenance)

asked the Under-Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs how many Russian emigrants and refugees are being maintained by the British Exchequer; where such persons are at present resident and the total amount per head paid each man, woman, and child; and whether the men concerned were officers in the late Russian army or members of the Russian nobility or working classes?

No Russian refugees are being maintained by His Majesty's Government. The remainder of the question, therefore, does not arise.

Capital

asked the Under-Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs if he has any information he can impart to the House as to the alleged intention of the Russian Government to remove the capital of Russia from Moscow to the Urals?

Brussels Conference (United States)

asked the Under-Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether the Government of the United States at Washington made representations to the British Government before the preliminary Conference of Allied Prime Ministers at Downing Street on the questions of German reparation and inter-Allied debts; and whether the United States will be directly or indirectly represented at the Brussels Conference?

The answer to the first part of the question is in the negative. As regards the second part, the question of the Powers to be invited to the Brussels Conference is one for the Belgian Government.

Rumanian Oil Wells (Compensation)

asked the Under-Secretary of State for Foreign Affaire whether he is aware that in November and December, 1916, a British Commission under the hon. Member for Central Wandsworth (Sir J. Norton-Griffiths), acting under the instructions of His Majesty's Government, and with the co-operation of the representatives of various British companies, destroyed the petrol, the wells, and the refineries of various British companies in Rumania, to prevent their falling into the hands of the enemy; that His Majesty's Minister in Rumania from time to time prior to the 3rd December, 1916, had requested the Rumanian Government to co-operate in such destruction and intimated that the Rumanian Government would be indemnified from the losses which might result from such steps; and that on 3rd December, 1916, an undertaking was given in writing from the British Minister to the Rumanian Foreign Minister that the Rumanian Government would be indemnified by the Allied countries for the losses which may result from such steps; what steps have been taken by His Majesty's Government to ascertain their liability to British companies and to honour their obligation of indemnity thereunder; and, having regard to the urgency of a settlement to many of the British companies and to the fact that it is six years since the destruction of their properties, will the Government expedite a settlement?

The answer to the first three parts of the question is in the affirmative. With regard to the fourth part, the liability of His Majesty's Government is to the Rumanian Government and not to individual companies. With regard to the last part, His Majesty's Government are in communication with the Rumanian Government as to the method in which companies concerned will receive compensation.

Lausanne Conference (Armenians)

asked the Under-Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether, in view of the proposals made by the conference of Allied Prime Ministers at Paris in March, 1922, to the effect that a national home should be obtained for the Armenians of Turkey, His Majesty's Government will propose that this question be placed on the agenda of the Lausanne Conference?

As the hon. Member will have seen from the Press, this subject has already been raised by the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs at Lausanne in his speech in the first commission of the Conference on the 12th instant.

Poland

asked the Under-Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether he has received from the British Minister in Warsaw details concerning the military manœEuvres recently held in Posen, including the reports published thereon in the Polish Press; and, if so, whether the information received has been communicated to the War Office?

The answer to the first part of the question is in the negative. The second part of the question therefore does not arise.

Chinese Loans

asked the Under-Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether he is aware that the interest upon the 8 per cent. Treasury bills and notes of the Chinese Government has been unpaid for a year and more; whether the funds out of which the Chinese Government has expressed its willingness to pay this interest are being withheld by the desire of the Five Powers; and, if so, what is the cause of this refusal to accede to the offer of the Chinese Government?

I am aware that the Chinese Government have defaulted on these obligations, and repeated representations have been made on the subject by His Majesty's Minister at Peking. With regard to the second and third parts of the question, the Chinese Government offered in July last to secure these loans on the increased Customs revenue to be derived from the 2½ Sur-tax provided for in the China Customs Treaty signed at Washington on the 5th February, 1922– I presume these are the funds which the hon. Member has in mind. The 2½ per cent. Sur-tax will, under Article III of the Treaty, be levied "from such date, for such purpose and subject to such conditions" as may be determined by a Special Conference which is to meet in China within three months of the coming into force of the Treaty. Under this Article, it would be ultra vires for the Chinese Government to hypothecate in advance, for the service of these loans or for any other purpose, the revenues which will be derived from the Sur-tax.

Czechoslovakia

asked the Under-Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether the Government of Czechoslovakia has given notice of its intention to confiscate the estates of 37 landowners, of whom 32 are German Czecks, two Poles, and one Czeck, and to dismiss the German-speaking workmen connected with these estates; and, if such action is in violation of the rights minority Clauses of the Treaty of St. Germain, what action does the British Government intend to take in the matter?

I am aware that the Czecho-Slovak Government is empowered by law to alienate landed estates in Czecho-Slovakia which exceed a certain fixed acreage, and that this law is being enforced in certain cases. I have no exact statistics on the subject. The law in question exercises no discrimination against landowners of any particular nationality, and consequently there is nothing in the law itself that violates the Treaty rights of minorities.

Asylum Patients (Discharge)

asked the Minister of Labour, as representing the Ministry of Health, whether it is the custom of the Lunacy Department to endorse the detention for a period of many years of able-bodied asylum inmates who cannot be proved to be dangerous and unfit to be at large, for the sole reason that no friend or relative has been available to apply for their discharge; and whether, since it would result in a saving of the rates that some provisional arrangement should be entered into to facilitate the return of such inmates to a condition of self-supporting and self-respecting life again, steps can be taken to that effect?

The detention or discharge of patients in public asylums rests with the Visiting Committees, and no question arises of the endorsement of their decision by the Central Authority. It is not the case that asylum inmates, such as the hon. Member describes, are detained for the sole reason that they have no friends. If a patient is sufficiently recovered to be, able to look after himself, he would be discharged. On the other hand, a patient, partially recovered could only be discharged if he had friends or relatives who were able and willing to take care of him.

Small-Pox And Vaccination

asked the Minister of Labour, as representing the Ministry of Health, whether his attention has been called to the fact that certain employers are compelling their workpeople to be vaccinated, giving them the alternative of dismissal; and whether the War Office has issued instructions that refusal of soldiers to be vaccinated is to be treated as misconduct?

My right hon. Friend has no information as to the first part of the question. The second part should be addressed to the Under-Secretary of State for War.

asked the Minister of Labour, as representing the Ministry of Health, whether he is aware that three applications have been made to the clerk to the Doncaster and Mexborough Joint Hospital Board for details of small-pox cases treated by his Board, as allowed by Section 8 of the Vaccination Act, 1907, and that no reply has been forthcoming to these applications: and whether he will instruct the said clerk to forward the details of the cases or allow the applicant to examine the hospital register in accordance with the Act?

My right hon. Friend has no information as to the first part of the question, but he will communicate with the joint hospital board in the matter.

asked the Minister of Labour, as representing the Ministry of Health, why it is that private practitioners are unable to obtain Government lymph, which is the purest there is?

The obligations of the Government in this matter are limited to the supply of lymph for the purposes of public vaccination, and as at present advised my right hon. Friend does not consider it practicable to extend the supply to private practitioners.

asked the Minister of Labour, as representing the Minister of Health, the total number of deaths occurring this year from small-pox amongst those vaccinated, and also amongst those not vaccinated, and the percentage rate of deaths to cases in each class?

The total number of deaths from small-pox occurring during the first eleven months of this year was 27. Twelve of these cases had been vaccinated, 11 were unvaccinated, three showed no evidence of vaccination and one was vaccinated during the incubation period of small-pox. The total number of eases of small-pox occurring in vaccinated persons during the 11 months was 271 and the percentage rate of deaths to cases in this class, irrespective of age, was 4·4. The total number of unvaccinated cases, including those which showed no evidence of vaccination or were vaccinated only during the incubation period of small-pox was 625, and the percentage rate of deaths to cases in this class, irrespective of age, was 2·4. In six cases no information is available as to vaccination. There were no fatal cases among vaccinated persons under 35 years of age.

Lunacy Act (Property Management)

asked the Minister of Labour, as representing the Ministry of Health, whether, in view of the provision of the Lunacy Act which requires that a patient in an asylum must be asked if he has any objection to the receiver who is about to be appointed under the Master for the management of his property, an arrangement can be entered into that, if the patient at an early period of his detention has not understood the bearings of the questions, a later opportunity should be afforded him to bring forward any reasonable objection he may entertain to the management of his property under the said receivership?

I have been asked to reply. The rules issued under the Lunacy Act provide that notice of the proposed appointment of a receiver shall be given to the patient. The patient sometimes objects to the proposed receiver, and such objection is always considered. It is open to the patient at any subsequent time to write to the Master raising any objection to the management of his property under such receivership. These objections are always considered and may result in the institution of further inquiries. In addition, the Master in Lunacy is empowered to request one of the Lord Chancellor's visitors to visit the patient and report. This power is frequently exercised.

Unemployment

Necessitous Areas

asked the Prime Minister whether he is aware that at the present time there are in Barrow-in-Furness over 10,000 men unemployed out of a total population of men, women, and children of about 74,000; that the burden of unemployment has now become so acute that the local authorities are no longer able to cope with it; and whether, since no adequate relief or assistance is obtainable from any Government Department, he will consider the advisability of special sympathetic treatment for those few boroughs where, as in the case of Barrow, there is an overwhelming amount of unemployment?

I am aware that there is acute unemployment in Barrow-in-Furness and I hope the position may be alleviated as a result of the decision to proceed with the construction of the two new battleships. The case is one in which a large measure of assistance has been given to meet the immediate need by a deferment of part of the abnormal charge. The question whether any further action should be taken as regards this and other necessitous areas has, as already been stated, been referred to the Cabinet Committee.

asked the Minister of Labour, as representing the Minister of Health, whether he is aware that the total expenditure by the Sheffield Union Board of Guardians on Poor Law relief to the unemployed from the 26th March, 1921, to 2nd December, 1922, was £953,595, and by the Ecclesall Union Board of Guardians, Sheffield, £182,631 18s. 5d., a total of £1,136,226 18s. 5d.; that the total emergency loan debt in the Sheffield Union is at present £670,000, and in the Ecclesall Union of Sheffield, £180,000, a total of £850,000; that the total expenditure on unemployed relief in the above-mentioned unions for the week ending 2nd December, 1922, was £14,185; that this abnormal charge upon local funds is having the dual effect of holding up a revival of trade in Sheffield because of the charge upon industry, and causing great hardship to the ratepayers generally, including the unemployed themselves; and whether he will take immediate steps to alleviate the position by aid from national sources?

My right hon. Friend is aware of the expenditure of the boards of guardians referred to, and he has directed the holding of a public inquiry into the Poor Law administration of the Sheffield Union. The proposal mentioned in the last part of the question is at present under consideration by a Committee of the Cabinet. It is hoped that material benefit may result to this area from the decision to proceed with the construction of the two new battleships.

Ex-Service Men

asked the Minister of Labour whether, in the case of ex-service men, he can relax the rule of the Employment Exchanges that a man can only register for employment in his profession; and, if so, whether he will allow ex-service men to register also in the side lines in which they may be equally competent?

There is no such rule. Persons making use of the exchanges may apply for work in any occupation or occupations for which they possess qualification. If they are claiming benefit they must, for obvious reasons, be registered in the occupation in which they seem most likely to find employment, but this does not exclude the entry of any other employment which they would wish to have if available.

Single Men (Benefit)

asked the Minister of Labour whether he is aware of the great hardship caused by refusing to pay benefit to single men living with their parents; and whether he will take the necessary steps to rectify this?

The restriction re-referred to applies only to un-covenanted benefit and is to the effect that uncovenanted benefit should not be paid to single persons residing with their relatives, unless such persons, when in employment, support themselves, and when not in employment cannot reasonably look to their relatives for support, having regard to all the circumstances. I am not aware that hardship is caused, and, in fact, local employment committees are expressly directed not to refuse benefit in cases where such deprivation would inflict real hardship.

United States

asked the President of the Board of Trade what is the present state of employment in the United States of America; and if he can give the latest return of the numbers of the unemployed there?

I have been asked to reply. I am unable, unfortunately, to supply the hon. and gallant Member with precise information as to the present state of unemployment in the United States of America, since the United States Government do not publish periodical statistical returns on this subject. It would appear, however, that in September last the United States Secretary of Labour estimated that there were then 1½ million totally unemployed and an equal number of partially unemployed persons in the country; and he was of opinion that these figures indicated a return to the normal level of unemployment throughout the country. Evidence of some further improvement in the situation is afforded by returns made to the United States Bureau of Labour Statistics by representative firms, comparing the months of September and October. From these it appears that these firms employed, in the aggregate, about 3 per cent, more workers in the latter month than in the former.

Aliens

asked the Minister of Labour what is the number of persons, other than British subjects, in this country who are in receipt of unemployment pay and what is the annual cost involved?

These figures are not available; but I would point out that no aliens, other than ex-service men or the British-born wives and widows of aliens, are drawing benefit unless they are entitled to it on account of contributions paid by them.

Insured Persons

asked the Minister of Labour the decrease in the last two years in the number of persons insured against unemployment; whether he has evidence that this decrease is due to the losses by death, emigration, and retirement being in excess of the number of young persons securing employment for the first time in insured industries; and whether, if this be so, how many young people who have left school in the last two years have failed to secure employment?

There has not been, so far as I am aware, a decrease in the number of persons insured against unemployment during the last two years. The figures published in the "Labour Gazette" show an apparent decrease, but this is accounted for partly by the omission of the Irish Free State from the later figures, partly by the decisions of the High Court as to the non-insurability of certain classes of workpeople, and partly by the fact that owing to incomplete information the first estimate in 1921 was in excess of the actual figure. It is not possible to give the number of boys and girls who have failed to secure employment after leaving school during the last two years.

Poor Law Relief And Insurance Benefit

asked the Minister of Labour if he has issued an instruction to the Employment Exchanges that when paying unemployment pay they may enter into arrangements with boards of guardians to deduct payment for relief which the recipient of unemployment pay may have received; and whether he is aware that at an Employment Exchange in Birmingham this course has been adopted?

When relief is granted by guardians in excess of what would have been paid, had the recipient been drawing benefit, and benefit is subsequently granted for the period for which the relief was paid, Section 14 of the Unemployment Insurance Act, 1922, expressly authorises the deduction from that benefit and the repayment to the guardians of the amount of the excess relief so paid. Were it not for this provision the applicant would receive in respect of the same period both the benefit and the excess relief which was granted in place of benefit. Instructions on this point have been issued to local officers of the Department.

Agricultural Labourers

asked the Minister of Labour whether he will consider the grievance of the agricultural labourers who, when they are given relief work by the district council not of a definite agricultural character, become liable for unemployment insurance under a ruling given by the Minister of Labour; and whether he is aware that the relief work seldom continues sufficiently long to enable them to benefit under the insurance scheme, which entails a heavy expense both on district councils and the men concerned without benefit to either?

Contributions are payable under the Unemployment Insurance Acts in respect of every person employed in insurable work. I have no power to exclude from this statutory obligation men who are engaged on relief work which is of an insurable character, even though the employment may be of short duration.

Solway Viaduct

asked the Minister of Labour whether amongst the works to be stimulated by credit grants in the interests of the unemployed he will consider the repair and restoration of the Solway viaduct, now out of use and becoming derelict, to the great inconvenience and loss of the people?

I have been asked to reply. The question of the restoration of this viaduct is one for the Caledonian Railway Company. Some time ago the railway company had the matter under consideration, but came to the conclusion that, in the circumstances then prevailing, they would not be justified in incurring the expense involved. I will, however, communicate with them again and let the hon. Gentleman know the result.

Trade Facilities

asked the Minister of Labour whether, in view of the disparity between the extent of unemployment and the measures at present proposed for its relief, he will consider whether further measures might be taken whereby employers generally would be offered inducements to expend capital on work they otherwise would not undertake, thus reducing not only the local and national expense due to unemployment, but also its deteriorating effect upon the unemployed?

I do not think anything in the nature of a general subsidy of private enterprise would help in the long run towards the solving the unemployment problem. But I would call attention to the assistance proposed by the Trade Facilities Bill now before Parliament to schemes which will provide increased employment in this country.

asked the Minister of Labour whether his attention has been called to the delay which is taking place in the completion of contracts in the shipyards and to the unemployment caused thereby; and whether there is any provision in the Government unemployment schemes for expediting this work, and so finding employment for many men who are at present in receipt of unemployment benefit?

The delay in the completion of contracts is one aspect of the general depression in trade, which can only be cured by a revival of industry. But I would point out that the further provision proposed in the Trade Facilities Bill now before Parliament will enable assistance to be given in proper cases, where the completion of contracts is at present delayed owing to lack of capital.

Housing

Rents, Swansea

asked the Minister of Labour, as representing the Ministry of Health, whether he has received a communication from the town clerk of Swansea in reference to an application from the tenants of houses erected by the corporation under assisted housing schemes of the Ministry of Health; is he aware that, owing to the distress prevailing through unemployment, and also the heavy reduction in wages that has taken place since the rents were fixed under Article VII (1) (a) of the Local Authorities (Assisted Housing Schemes) Regulation, 1919, the arrears are accumulating; and whether he will consider favourably an application for a reduction of an amount within the limits of the earnings of the tenants?

An application for reduction of rents of houses erected at Swansea under the assisted housing schemes has been received and reductions have been agreed with the corporation in respect of the houses on several of the housing sites. Having regard to the prevailing rents of comparable houses in the district my right hon. Friend is unable to agree to any further reduction of rents now fixed.

Subsidy

asked the Minister of Labour, as representing the Ministry of Health, if the grant for houses built under the scheme of the late Minister of Health can be given to builders who have exceeded the Regulations and have built houses upon a more generous scale than that dictated by the late Minister of Health?

My right hon. Friend is unable to authorise the payment of the grant under Section 1 of the Housing (Additional Powers) Act, 1919, in cases where the houses do not comply with the published Regulations.

Building Sites

asked the Minister of Labour, as representing the Ministry of Health, whether his Department is pressing local authorities who have building sites not built upon to dispose of them?

No general instructions as to disposal of land have been issued, but local authorities have been asked to give the matter special consideration where it appears that disposal on advantageous terms could be effected.

Local Authofities

asked the Minister of Labour, as representing the Ministry of Health, whether there are any towns in the country, and, if so, which, which have not organised to the full extent, consonant with their financial resources, the various legislative Measures enabling them to deal with the housing evils; what action the Ministry has taken in these cases; and whether, as a result, any remedial measures have been adopted?

The extent of the activities of local authorities in dealing with the housing problem in their areas has necessarily varied with the different circumstances of the authorities, but I think it will be generally agreed that local authorities have, during the last two or three years, made very great efforts to deal with this difficult problem.

Unlawful Seizure, Peckham (Prosecution)

asked the Home Secretary whether his attention has been called to the case of four men who were brought before the Central Criminal Court for taking possession of a disused house in South Grove, Peckham; whether he is aware that the men with their families were homeless and unemployed; that one of the women was pregnant, and expected to give, birth to a child; that the prosecution was under old Statutes of Richard II and Henry VI; that these men have been kept in prison for a long time pending sentence at the Sessions on 5th December; and will he give consideration to the case with a view to the discharge of these men and the providing of decent accommodation for themselves and families, particularly as the whole of the men served during the War and took part in the battles of Arras, Cambrai, Ypres and Loos?

These men were bound over in £5 each and discharged at the current Sessions. I much regret that it in beyond my power to provide housing accommodation for these men and their families.

Gas Supply, Thornliebank

asked the First Commissioner of Works, as representing the Secretary for Scotland if he is aware that the houses erected by the Renfrewshire County Council at Jenny Lind, Spiersbridge, Thornliebank, are nearing completion; that some of them have been occupied by tenants since July; that these houses have been erected with a view to the use of gas but that no supply of gas is available because the board of health refuse to recognise the cost of leading the gas mains to the houses as approved expenditure; that accordingly the occupiers have no facilities for lighting, cooking, or washing clothes, and that although the tenants are assessed for public lighting, the new streets remain unlighted; and what steps is he prepared to take to remedy this state of affairs?

My Noble Friend is aware that the position is as stated in the first part of the question. The Scottish Board of Health, in accordance with their general policy, have declined to allow the cost of providing gas mains to rank as a charge against the local authority's State-assisted housing scheme. Negotiations, however, are now in course between the Board and the local authority with a view to an arrangement being come to whereby the mains will be provided by the latter. The public lighting of the streets is also a matter for the local authority.

Ex-Service Men

Dentists Act

asked the Minister of Labour, as representing the Ministry of Health, if he will consider a modification of the Dentists Act, 1921, to insure that such unregistered dental practitioners and dental mechanics as had not attained the age of 23 on 28th July, 1921, but who had served in the late War shall be eligible to sit for examination, and thus ensure that ex-service men of the above categories are not driven into the ranks of the unemployed?

My right hon. Friend is not prepared to recommend the introduction of amending legislation which might be of a controversial character. But if general agreement can be secured in support of a Private Member's Bill, dealing with the matters raised by the hon. and gallant Member, he would be disposed to give it favourable consideration, subject to the inclusion of such safeguards as are necessary in the public interest.

Election, Shrewsbury (Poll Clerks)

asked the Home Secretary whether he is aware that ex-service men were not utilised as poll clerks in the Shrewsbury Division at the recent General Election, although it was advertised that preference would be given to ex-service men; and what action he proposes to take in the matter?

Such appointments rest with the returning officer, and I have no information as to the circumstances in the particular case referred to. I will, however, make inquiry and inform my Noble Friend of the result.

Tax Collector, Condover (Appointment)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he is aware that at a recent vacancy for a tax collector in the Condover Division of Salop an ex-service man, though summoned to attend before the Commissioners of Taxes on the occasion of the selection of a candidate, was never interviewed; whether preference for ex-service men is the policy of His Majesty's Government in all such appointments; and whether, seeing that that policy was not carried out in this instance, he will have the matter further investigated?

I am causing inquiry to be made into the case to which my hon. and gallant Friend refers, and will let him know the result in due course.

Government Departments (Employment)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer why a number of temporary Government clerks are to be dismissed to make room for the successful candidates in a recent open competitive examination; whether any saving in expenditure will be thereby effected or the reverse; whether he is aware that the bulk of these men are ex-service men; and whether he will at any rate give an assurance that married men shall be the last to be dismissed?

The hon. and gallant Member is under a misapprehension. Ex-service men are not being discharged from Government Departments to make way for successful candidates from any open competitive examination. I may, however, explain that in accordance with the recommendations of Lord Lytton's Committee, a competition, limited to ex-service men temporarily employed in Government Departments, was held last August for posts in the clerical class, and it is possible that unqualified candidates may be required to give way to ex-service men, who qualified at this competition. The Lytton Committee further recom- mended that the normal order of discharge of ex-service men temporarily employed should be (i) home service men, (ii) overseas men, and (iii) disabled men. Subject to this principle, and to the overriding consideration of efficiency, regard is had, however, wherever possible, both to the personal circumstances of the men in question and to any representations which the ex-service associations may wish to make in individual cases.

asked the Prime Minister whether he will consider the setting up of a select committee to inquire into the position of ex-service men absorbed into the Civil Service under the terms of the Lytton Committee with a view to a review of the initial salaries granted to these men, and to securing that they shall not suffer by accepting permanent as against temporary employment?

This question was fully considered by the Lytton Committee, and I am not prepared to agree to a further inquiry. I should perhaps add that I do not accept the implication in the hon. Member's question that these men suffer by taking permanent as against temporary employment.

Post Office

asked the Postmaster-General what is the total number of ex-service (Lytton) candidates who have been appointed to the General Post Office since the setting up of the Lytton Committee; how many of these men were 24 years of age and upwards and have been appointed clerical officers at the same salary as that paid to a youth of 18 years just entering the Service, i.e., £80 per annum plus bonus; and how many clerical officers under the age of 21 years, who entered the General Post Office through other channels than the special ex-service clerical class competitions, are receiving more than £80 per annum plus bonus?

I am having inquiry made and will communicate with the hon. Member later.

Government Departments

Ministry Of Labour (Training Department, Scotland)

asked the Minister of Labour whether it is proposed to remove the headquarters of the Training Department of the Ministry from Edinburgh to Glasgow on 15th January, 1923; whether, if so, he is aware that this will cause hardship to many members of the staff without any gain in public economy or efficiency; whether the work of interviewing employers and others is undertaken by a special canvassing staff not specially dependent on the location of the headquarters; and whether, having regard to these facts, he will allow the Department to remain in Edinburgh?

I would refer the hon. Member to the reply given on 12th December to a question on this subject addressed to me by the hon. and gallant Member for Leith (Captain W. Benn). I am sending him a copy. The work of the canvassing staff is immediately supervised by the Divisional Director. It is desirable that the Divisional Director should have his headquarters in the district in which most of the work is done.

Temporary Clerical Staff (Pay)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he is aware that His Majesty's Treasury took executive action in reducing salaries of the temporary clerical staff in the Civil Service on the 4th August; that it resulted in reductions of of existing salaries both on the 1st September and 1st December last, and that prior to the 4th August the matter had been the subject of discussion between the official and staff sides of the pay committee of the National Whitley Council; whether agreement was reached by the committee; and, if not, was disagreement registered and reported to the National Whitley Council, and permitted to be referred to arbitration?

I am aware of the action which was taken in this matter after prolonged discussion with representatives of the staff concerned. The disagreement reached on the pay committee has been reported to the National Whitley Council. As stated in my reply to a similar question put by the hon. Member for Plaistow (Mr. W. Thorne) on the 12th December, I am not prepared to agree that the matter should now be referred to arbitration.

Women

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he is aware that, under the Lytton Report for the employment of ex-service men in the Civil Service, fit home-service men are being substituted for women temporary clerks who served in Government Departments during the War and who were thereby precluded from volunteering for war service; and whether, in the interests of economy in the Civil Service, the Government will consider the discretion of not permitting further substitution in Departments like the taxes branch of the Inland Revenue, where the replacement of experienced technical women clerks by men not so qualified is likely to impede the efficiency of the Department?

It is the accepted policy of His Majesty's Government to accord preference in the matter of employment in the Civil Service to ex-service men. At the present time the number of men who served overseas or who are disabled is normally more than sufficient to fill such vacancies as exist or can be effected by substitution. Where this is not the case, ex-service men who were not sent overseas are accorded preference over temporary women clerks taken on during the War. The question of the further substitution of temporary women clerks by ex-service men in the Department of Inland Revenue is at present under consideration, and in arriving at a decision full regard will be had to the need for the maintenance, of the, efficiency of the Department.

Imperial War Graves Commission (War Widows And Dependants)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether the Joint Substitution Board has decided that it is not possible to justify the continued employment even of war widows and war dependants on grounds of hardship except in very exceptional cases; and whether, seeing that the recommendations of the Lytton Committee authorise heads of Departments to decide cases within their own purview, he will say for what reason is the Imperial War Graves Commission1 being compelled to dismiss elderly women with seven years' service whom they desire to retain alike on grounds of efficiency and of hardship?

In view of the fact that the retention on duties which can be discharged by men of non-service clerical staff in present circumstances either involves the discharge in their stead of ex-service employés or prevents the reallocation to fresh Departments of ex-service men discharged from their former Departments on reduction, it has been decided that such retention cannot normally be permitted on grounds of hardship even in the class of case described. It was therefore incumbent on the Joint Substitution Board to press the Imperial War Graves Commission to substitute ex-service men for their non-service clerical staff, but I understand that discharges of war widows are not in fact involved.

Ministry Of Pensions

asked the Minister of Pensions how many members of the staff are now accommodated in the new building at Acton; and whether he has now been able, in co-operation with local or other authorities, to make provision for housing accommodation in the district for those who need it?

The Ministry's staff at Acton numbers 4,800. As regards the last part of the question, I am afraid I have nothing to add to the reply given to my hon. Friend on the 29th June last, when he was informed that schemes for the erection of a number of houses in the neighbourhood of Acton had been approved by my right hon. Friend the Minister of Health, but that the allotment of the houses rested with the local authorities concerned.

asked the Minister of Pensions if he will take the necessary steps to see that the 29 most highly-paid persons who are not ex-service men shall be transferred or removed and their places filled by men who served the country during the War in the forces?

In my reply to the hon. Member on the 8th instant I stated that 29 of the 45 most highly-paid officials in the Ministry are ex-service men. The remaining 16 are all established civil servants of considerable experience, and it would not be in the interests of the work of the Ministry or the State to remove them from their present duties.

Aircraft Insurance Scheme

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the total amount that was paid in premiums during the War for insurance against damage by enemy aircraft under the Government scheme: how much of this has been paid out in claims; and what is being done with the balance, if any?

The net premiums received by the Government under the Aircraft Insurance Scheme amounted to £14,086,615, and the amount paid in claims was £3,046,790. The balance of the fund was paid into the Exchequer at the time.

Vote Of Credit Realisations

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what sum has been received from the sale of Vote-of-Credit assets from 5th April to 31st October, 1922, inclusive?

As shown in the last weekly Exchequer statement, the total Special Miscellaneous Receipts from 1st April, 1922, down to 9th December was £34,602,000. Of this approximately £30,000,000 may be taken as the Exchequer Receipt from Vote of Credit realisations during that period.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer the total amount which has been realised since the Armistice in respect of the sale of war stores?

Vote of Credit realisations from 1st April, 1919, to 9th December amount to approximately £1,120 millions. It is not possible to give a figure for war stores in the restricted sense separately.

Old Age Pensions

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether steps will be taken to alter the law whereby a pension which a widow is receiving for the loss of a son in the War shall be treated as income when making application for an old age pension?

Income Tax And Super-Tax (Arrears)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer the amount of Income Tax due and unpaid on 5th April, 1922, in England and Scotland, respectively?

The approximate amounts of Income Tax estimated to be due to be paid (excluding the instalment due on 1st July, 1922) but not paid by 31st March, 1922, were as follow:

England……£87,000,000
Scotland……£6,400,000

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer the amount of Income Tax and Super-tax due and unpaid on 5th April, 1922, and 31st October, 1922?

The approximate amounts of Income Tax and Super-tax estimated to be due to be paid but not paid were as follows:

Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
31st March, 1922.31st October, 1922.
Income Tax£95,000,000, excluding the instalment due on 1st July, 1922.£23,000,000, including the instalment due on 1st July, 1922.
Super-tax£23,500,000£11,250,000
The respective arrears of Super-tax are not comparable, because the arrear at the later date includes considerable sums of duty assessed since the earlier date.

Crown And Government Lands (Committee's Report)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he is now in a position to name a date when the necessary steps will be taken to put into operation the recommendations of the Crown and Government Lands Committee; and if, in view of the urgent need for economy in Government staffs, he will accelerate a decision on this matter?

The answer to the first part of the question is in the negative. As stated in reply to the hon. Member on the 5th instant, the report of the Committee is under consideration, and it is hoped that there will be no avoidable delay in reaching a decision.

German Reparation

asked the Home Secretary whether he is aware that, as a result of a judicial decision in July, 1921, property of many British subjects by birth but German by parentage is charged with the payment of Germany's debt to this country; what steps have been taken to prevent such property being disposed of to purchasers who might not be aware of the charge upon it; and whether this charge includes property acquired by such British subjects after the Treaty of Peace came into force?

I have been asked to reply. I am aware of the decision referred to by my hon. Friend, but the circumstances in that case were exceptional. An appeal to the House of Lords against the decision of the Court of Appeal is pending. The charge does not extend to any property in the United Kingdom acquired by a person of dual nationality after the 10th January, 1920.

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether any of the grant for reparation for those who suffered from enemy action at sea during the late War has been handed over to any trade union or unions for distribution; if so, what proportion of the grant has been so disposed of; and whether he will give particulars?

The answer to the first part of this question is in the negative. The second part does not, therefore, arise.

House Of Commons (Police)

asked the Home Secretary how many hours a police officer attached to this House must be on duty before he is entitled to any sustenance allowance, and how much he is entitled to?

Under the present arrangement the officers in question receive a special allowance whether or not they are detained beyond the normal duty hours. The circumstances in which they would be entitled to refreshment allowance when the present special allowance has been withdrawn, will be governed by Regulation 71 of the Police Regulations, a copy of which I will send to the hon. and gallant Baronet. As he will see, the payment of the allowance does not depend merely on the number of hours for which a man is retained on duty, but I may say generally that when a man is detained at the House beyond his normal duty period so that he is put to expense to obtain a meal, the regulation would be regarded as applicable.

asked the Home Secretary if he will himself consider the question of withdrawing the 1s. per day special allowance to police officers attached for duty to this House before it is carried into effect?

I have considered this question. The shilling a day has been paid to men on duty, not only in the Houses of Parliament, but also in Government offices, museums, etc. It is not an overtime or refreshment allowance, but is payable for every day on which a man is employed on such duty, whether his hours are abnormal or not. Now that provision has been made in the general Police Regulations for the grant of "time off" or allowances to any men employed for abnormal hours, there appears to be no justification for continuing the grant to the officers in question of a special allowance for which officers employed elsewhere are not eligible. The retention of the allowance would be contrary to the principles laid down by the Desborough Committee; its abolition was recommended by the Geddes Committee, and I can find no grounds for departing from the decision.

Workmen's Compensation Act

asked the Home Secretary if he will take steps to secure such Amendment of the Workmen's Compensation Act as will secure to widows and other dependants an increase of not less than 75 per cent, in their compensation so as to enable them to meet in some degree the increase in the cost of living caused by the reduced purchasing value of money compared with August, 1914?

I would refer the hon. Member to my replies to the previous question on this subject on the 28th November and 4th December. I am not at present in a position to make any statement.

Mormon Propaganda, Newcastle-On-Tyne

asked the Home Secretary whether he is aware of the intensive Mormon propaganda now being carried on in Newcastle-on-Tyne and district; and what steps, if any, are to be taken to counteract this campaign?

I had not previously heard of any such propaganda in the Newcastle district, and from inquiries which I have made since this question was put down I do not find any evidence of it. But if the hon. Member has any facts which he will be good enough to communicate to me, I will consider them.

Aliens

asked the Home Secretary the number of aliens admitted into this country, and how many have left it, since 1st January last, and the number of British subjects who have migrated to overseas parts of the Empire or emigrated elsewhere during the same period?

The number of alien passengers who landed in the United Kingdom from 1st January till 30th November, 1922, was 300,204, and the number who embarked during the same period was 294,511. The last part of this question should be addressed to my right hon. Friend the President of the Board of Trade.

Street Trading

asked the Home Secretary if he is prepared to introduce a Bill in the next Session of Parliament giving effect to the recommendations of the Committee on Street Trading, especially in regard to giving the street trader a certain status by entitling him to a specified stand at a small rental per week, payable to the local authority?

I would refer to the reply I gave on the 12th instant. The subject raised in the last part of the question will be considered when the Bill is drafted.

asked the Home Secretary whether he will embody in the Bill on street trading the compulsory registration of all street traders at a nominal registration fee, and also a provision giving local authorities power to frame bye-laws governing street trading as regards hours of opening?

These subjects are dealt with in the Street Trading Committee's Report, and I will consider them when the Bill is drafted.

Young Offenders (Sentences)

asked the Home Secretary whether his attention has been drawn to the cases of Edward Charles Bicknell and Horace Perrins, both lads of 17 years of age, who, charged before Sutton Coldfield magistrates on the 5th instant with a series of petty thefts, pleaded guilty and received sentences of six months' hard labour; whether, during the course of the sentences being carried out, these lads will be likely to come in contact with other prisoners undergoing sentences of hard labour; and what action, if any, he proposes to take?

I have made inquiry into the facts of the case and can find no reason for intervention on my part. The two lads will be put in a young offenders' class, where they will be treated specially and kept separate, as far as possible, from adult prisoners.

Washington Convention (Hours Of Work)

asked the Prime Minister if he is aware that the following countries have carried out the decisions of the Convention held at Washington in 1919, and by decree or law adopted a 48-hours working week: Cuba, Ecuador, Latvia, Lithuania, Finland, Netherlands, Panama, Peru, Portugal, Uruguay, France, Poland, Germany, Austria, Belgium, Spain, Norway and Sweden; and when it is proposed to carry out the same in this country?

It is not the case that any of the countries referred to in the question has, in accordance with the provisions of the Treaty, ratified the Washington Draft Convention on the subject of hours of work. I am unable to state whether in those countries legislation exists which carries into effect the provisions of the Convention. With regard to the last part of the question, I would refer the hon. Member to the reply given on the 5th December to the hon. Member for Oldham (Mr. Tout), of which I am sending him a copy.

Chancellor Of The Exchequer (Visit To America)

asked the Prime Minister what is the estimated cost of the Chancellor of the Exchequer's visit to the United States; and why is such a visit necessary, seeing that the British Ambassador at Washington is equipped for carrying through negotiations in facts and figures which are indisputable?

The cost must necessarily depend upon the length of the stay, but it is estimated that the figure will be about £2,000. As regards the second part of the question, His Majesty's Government are of opinion that, in view of the great importance and technical character of the negotiations, they should be in the hands of the Cabinet Minister responsible for the Department directly concerned.

British Refugees, Smyrna

asked the Prime Minister what steps are being taken to alleviate the present sufferings of the British refugees from Smyrna?

Through the British representatives at Athens and Mitylene, and through the Governors of Malta and Cyprus, His Majesty's Government are defraying the cost of relief of such destitute refugees of British origin as have not come to this country.

Murder Trials (Law Officers)

asked the Attorney-General why it is considered necessary for one of the Law Officers of the Crown to prosecute in murder trials; and whether such appearance adds to the expense of the prosecution?

It is not considered necessary for a Law Officer to prosecute in murder trials, except in cases of exceptional difficulty or importance. The answer to the last part of the question is in the affirmative.

Public Trustee's Office (Charges)

asked the Attorney-General if his attention has been drawn to the strictures lately passed by Judges of the High Court on the administration and high charges of the Public Trustee's Office; and, in view of the discontent, is he prepared to take any steps in the matter?

The office of the Public Trustee is conducted under the supervision of the Lord Chancellor, who is satisfied that every endeavour is being made to secure efficiency and economy.

Derby Assizes

asked the Attorney-General whether any public body has drawn his attention to the inconvenience that would be caused to a very large number of people should the proposal to abolish the holding of Assizes in the Borough of Derby be adopted; and, in that event, will he be prepared to take any action in the matter?

The answer to the first part of the question is in the negative. Any such communications should be sent to the Secretary of the Committee appointed to examine and report upon the question of the re-arrangements of the Circuits of the Judges.

Crown Property, Regent Street, London

asked the First Commissioner of Works whether, in connection with the proposed rebuilding of Crown property in Regent Street, London, W., he will take such steps as may be possible to ensure that owners of existing established businesses are not unfairly dispossessed of the occupancy of existing premises, and that opportunity will be given them when the rebuilding is completed to become tenants of the new premises?

I have been asked to reply. It is, and has been for many years the practice of the Commissioners of Woods to ensure so far as is practicable that owners of existing established businesses are not unfairly dispossessed of the occupancy of existing premises and to provide that on rebuilding the opportunity shall be given to them, so far as practicable, to become tenants on fair terms. My right hon. Friend is sending the hon. Member a print of the most recent, form of tender for building sites. This shows the nature of the provisions usually adopted for the protection of sitting tenants whether the letting is by public tender or by private treaty. The ordinary method of letting is by private treaty to the sitting tenant or to the principal sitting tenant.

Scotland

Illegal Trawling

asked the First Commissioner of Works, as representing the Secretary for Scotland, whether he is aware that the fishermen of Caithness and Sutherland are suffering from the illegal depredations of trawlers and from the seine-net fishermen in the Moray Firth; whether he is prepared to subject the seine-net fishermen to the same restrictions as the trawlers; whether he will give additional protection against illegal trawling by increasing the number of vessels employed on this duty by using steam drifters for the purpose and by increasing the penalties which can be inflicted on conviction for illegal trawling; and whether he is aware that those engaged in this industry are anxiously awaiting a declaration of the Government's policy on these questions?

During the last three months two complaints of illegal trawling and four complaints of illegal fishing with seine nets have been received by the Fishery Board for Scotland from fishermen of Caithness and Sutherland. In the same period two cases of illegal fishing off the coast of those counties have been detected by fishery cruisers. Seine-net fishermen are prohibited from conducting operations within the three-mile limit, but there is no power to prohibit that method of fishing outside that limit. Six vessels are already employed in fishery protection duties and the funds available do not permit of any addition to the number. Any increase in the existing penalties for illegal trawling would require legislation. The Government will utilise to the utmost all the available means for the protection of the fisheries.

Small Holdings, Caithness

asked the First Commissioner of Works, as representing the Secretary for Scotland, whether he is aware that unrest has been created among small tenants by sales of estates in Caithness and elsewhere in the North of Scotland owing to the threatened resumption of small holdings unless the tenants themselves purchase; and, if so, whether he is prepared to take any action in the matter?

My Noble Friend is aware of the fact stated in the first part of the question. As regards the second part, I would refer the hon. Member to the reply given on 5th December to a question on the same subject by the hon. and gallant Member for Caithness and Sutherland.

Health Insurance (Unemployed Persons)

asked the First Commissioner of Works, as representing the Secretary for Scotland, whether, as unemployed persons after a period lose their benefit under the National Health Insurance Act, the Government will take steps immediately to abrogate the payment whilst persons are unemployed and thereby assist parish councils who have to provide payment out of the Poor Rate?

Special provision has been made under the National Health Insurance (Prolongation of Insurance) Act, 1921, and Section 3 of the National Health Insurance Act, 1922, to secure that insured persons shall not fall out of insurance by reason of a prolonged period of unemployment, and that persons whose insurance is so continued shall be credited with the necessary number of contributions to qualify them for medical benefit, maternity benefit, and the minimum rates of sickness and disablement benefits. Insured persons who desire to qualify for the full rates of sickness and disablement benefits can do so by making small supplementary payments without which approved societies would not be in a position to undertake this additional liability. My Noble Friend does not consider that there is a case for any action on his part.

Bespoke Tailoring Trade (Wages)

asked the Minister of Labour whether it is proposed to vary the present rates in the retail bespoke tailoring trade under the Scottish Trade Boards?

The Retail Bespoke Tailoring Trade Board, whichcovers Scotland as well as England and Wales, has issued proposals to vary the minimum rates at present in force. I understand that these proposals will be considered by the Board next week.

Post Office

Telephone Installations, London

asked the Postmaster-General whether his attention has been called to the delay in installing telephones for new subscribers in the City of London; and whether any steps can be taken to expedite such installations?

The time occupied in joining up subscribers in the City of London is being carefully watched and a continuous improvement is being effected. The most recent returns show that in over 50 per cent, of eases service is provided within a fortnight and in over 75 per cent, within three weeks. The period is being gradually curtailed. The number of applications now outstanding in the City of London does not exceed two or three dozen, and the position will be still further improved shortly.

Accountant-General's Department, Edinburgh (Pay)

asked the Post master-General whether he is aware that the examiners in the Accountant-General's Department, General Post Office, London, and first-class clerks in the post office, Edinburgh, have been refused the full benefit of improved scales of pay which it had been arranged they should receive; and whether, in view of the dissatisfaction caused by the present situation, he is prepared to receive a deputation of the officers affected?

I assume that the hon. Member is referring to the claim of these officers that they should receive the improved scales of pay from the 1st January, 1920, instead of the date from which the general re-organisation schemes for their Departments took effect. The understanding that they would be given the benefit of the earlier date was replaced by the agreement signed by the National Whitley Council on the 8th April last. The question has already been fully discussed with the representatives of the officers concerned, and I do not think that any useful purpose would be served by my receiving a deputation on the subject.

Guild Of Postal Sorters (Recognition)

asked the Postmaster-General whether he is aware that the Guild of Postal Sorters withdrew from the Union of Post Office Workers for reasons of a political nature, and had for some time past been seeking official recognition from the late Postmaster-General; and will he say if he will favourably consider the claim of postal sorters to have their guild officially recognised?

I have under consideration the claim for recognition to which the hon. and gallant Member refers, and have arranged for a deputation on the subject to be received in the near future.

Sunday Post

asked the Postmaster-General the names of those chambers of commerce or associations of employers or operatives who asked for the abolition of the Sunday post; the names of similar bodies who have asked for the re-establishment of the Sunday post; and if he purposes taking any action?

I cannot trace any request from a chamber of commerce or trades association for the abolition of the Sunday post. Since the restoration of Sunday collections in May last I have received very few representations from similar bodies in regard to the restoration of Sunday deliveries. I do not propose to take any action in the matter at present.

Retirement Age

asked the Postmaster-General the normal age of retirement of a permanent Post Office official; how many salaried officials in the Belfast surveyor's district have attained this age and how many have been retained beyond it; what positions the latter hold; is it the rule that all civil servants should retire at 60 years of age and should only be retained beyond this age under very exceptional circumstances; and, considering the present state of unemployment in the country and stagnation of promotion in the postal service, will he consider, in the public interest, the advisability of calling on all officials, irrespective of rank, to retire on reaching the age of 60 years?

No normal age of retirement has been laid down. A civil servant may be called upon by the head of his Department to retire at any time after reaching the age of 60; but it is not the rule that retirement should be enforced at this age in the absence of very exceptional circumstances. There are three established Post Office servants in the Belfast district over 60 years of age, one being the Assistant Postmaster and the other two Sub-Postmasters. They are all thoroughly efficient; and I propose to retain their services for the present. I do not consider that it would be in the interests of the service to enforce retirement in every case immediately on reaching the age of 60.

Ireland

Royal Irish Constabulary

asked the Under-Secretary of State for the Colonies whether his attention has been called to a circular issued by the Irish Office a few days ago, informing ex-Royal Irish Constabulary men who have received disturbance allowances that, if they do not render accounts or otherwise communicate with reference to such allowances by 1st January, 1923, or within six months of their disbandment, the amount of these allowances may be recovered by instalments from their pensions; whether he is aware that these men have been compelled to leave their homes, and, in most cases, have been unable to obtain employ- ment, and have, in consequence of having to leave their homes, been put to heavy expenses equal to or exceeding the amount of their disturbance allowances; whether the costs to be allowed in connection with their removal from their homes include the expenses they have incurred in rent and otherwise in consequence of having to leave their homes; and whether he will give directions that the rendering of accounts shall be dispensed with, or, at any rate, that the time for rendering them shall be extended pending further consideration?

The circular in question was issued in accordance with paragraph 2 of the Terms of Disbandment presented to Parliament as a Command Paper (Gmd. 1673) when the Constabulary (Ireland) Bill was under consideration. That paragraph provides that if a man

"has not moved his home or if the reasonable expenses incurred in connection with such removal are leas than the amount of the allowance which he has received, the tribunal may require him to refund the whole or part of the allowance, as the case may be."
As regards the second part of the question, I am aware that a considerable number of these men have been compelled to leave their homes in Ireland. In such cases no man will be required to repay any part of his disturbance allowances if the whole of it has been properly expended in connection with the removal of his borne. In examining the accounts of this expenditure furnished by disbanded men, regard is had to lodging and similar expenses actually incurred during the process of moving. I regret I cannot accept the suggestion contained in the last part of the question in view of the fact that in many cases it is known that men, after drawing disturbance allowance, have not moved their homes, and have thus not spent this allowance on the purpose for which it was granted. If in any particular ease good cause can be shown, the tribunal is prepared to agree to an extension of the period within which the account must be rendered.

Malicious Injuries (Decrees)

asked the Under-Secretary of State for the Colonies whether, in accordance with the Malicious Injuries (Ireland) Act, holders of decrees from the County Courts are receiving interest at 5 per cent, on their decrees from the date of award; and, if so, will he represent to the Chancellor of the Exchequer that, pending settlement, advances up to one-half of the award could be made to the holder of the decree and interest at 5 per cent, be charged to him for such advance without loss to the British taxpayer and to the immediate relief of the holder of the decree, who in many cases have been reduced to financial difficulty while awaiting payment from the Free State Government?

As the hon. and gallant Member is aware, decrees in respect of pre-truce injuries to property are subject to revision by the Compensation (Ireland) Commission, while, as regards post-truce injuries, the Free State Government is at present considering the best method of dealing with such decrees as have been given, in view of the fact that the local authorities, by whom alone the decrees are payable, are not in a position to pay them. In these circumstances, I could not ask my right hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer to adopt the course suggested in the second part of the question; but, as the House has previously been informed, authority has already been given to the Irish Office to make advances, subject in certain cases to the consent of the Treasury, on the security of decrees, where real hardship has arisen owing to the delay in the payment of compensation. I am not aware that there is any need for an extension of this authority.

Customs Duties, Uganda

asked the Under-Secretary of State for the Colonies if his attention has been drawn to the protests made by the representative bodies in Uganda against the increase in Customs duties; and whether, in view of the fact that Uganda is solvent and requires no increase in taxation, and that the projected increase will, in the opinion of those concerned, hinder the development of the country and greatly augment the cost of living to all classes, Native and European, he will concur with the wishes of the Uganda Protectorate?

The Kenya increases of duty were, with some adjustments, accepted by the Government of Uganda, but as a result of representations made in Uganda, further discussion took place. It has been decided to adopt the modified Kenya tariff for the present, but the matter will be further examined. I have seen no attempt to estimate, in increased cost to the consumer, the effect of the tariff changes to which objection is taken. They appear to be those arising from certain changes from ad valorem to specific duties recommended by a conference of Customs officers, held at the beginning of 1922, over which the Trade Commissioner for East Africa presided. The specific duties were fixed so as to be equivalent to the existing duties at the values then prevailing, and if any hardship exists it is due to the fact that those values, and, therefore, the cost of living, have fallen during the year.