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Volume 170: debated on Thursday 13 March 1924

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Written Answers

Royal Navy

New Construction (Private Yards)

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Admiralty what national ships are under construction or under repair in private yards and what sums have been and are still payable from the national Exchequer to private firms in respect of the same; what national ships it is contemplated to build in the near future in the private yards and the approximate payments that will be made in respect of the same; whether he will state in respect of the above which, if any, of the above ships could not have been built or repaired in the Royal dockyards, with or without alterations to the plant; and, if alterations to the plant had been necessary and undertaken, to how many men in the Royal dockyards would employment have been given?

H.M.S. "Rodney" and "Nelson" are under construction in private yards at an estimated total cost of £14,000,000, of which about £3,170,000 has been paid. The Government's proposals for new naval construction have already been stated to the House, but definite figures of the cost of the ships concerned cannot be given till the contracts have been placed. The vessels referred to in the first and second parts of my reply could not, generally speaking, have been built in the Royal yards without considerable alterations to building slips, etc., which would take some years to carry out. A battleship building in the dockyard would employ an average of about 1,500 men for four years, and a cruiser an average of about 750 men for 3½ years.

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Admiralty why it is contemplated building cruisers in private yards when adequate building facilities exist at the Royal dockyards?

All reasonable use is intended to be made of the building facilities at the Royal yards. It has never been the policy of the Admiralty to undertake all their ship construction in these yards.

Royal Dockyards (Craftsmen)

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Admiralty the special conditions of employment of yard craftsmen in the Royal dockyards, the average number of hours these men are on duty per week, of what their duty consists, and their pay?

The yard craftsmen are employed under seafaring conditions with weekly rates of wages to cover all the duties required of them. They form the crews of dockyard tugs and other floating craft required for the various purposes of the dockyards, the fuelling and victualling services of the Fleet, and the dredging service. The hours of duty vary considerably, as does also the nature of the duties. There is no uniform scheme of working hours, the men are not in all cases actively employed for the whole time they are on board their vessels. The duty of these men consists of working their vessels in carrying out the various services of the yardcraft. The normal weekly rates of wages of the several classes of yard craftsmen are as shown in the following statement:

Total Weekly Rate. Inclusive of 17s. 6d. War increase.
s.d.s.d.
Masters 1st Class806 to 876
Masters 2nd Class736 to 806
Mate596 to 649
Engineer 1st Class840 to 910
Engineer 2nd Class736 to 806
Engineer 3rd Class666 to 736
Chief Stoker613 to 637
Leading Stoker555 to 579
Stoker531 to 543
Able Seaman514 to 526
s.d.
Ordinary Seamen under 20 years of age461
Ordinary Seamen over 20, but under 21 years of age468
Ordinary Seamen over 21 years of age502

Ex-German Floating Docks

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Admiralty whether the floating docks surrendered by Germany are being put to any useful purpose; and, if not, what is it proposed to do with them?

Of these floating docks, two have been sold, one is on the sale list, and two have been retained for naval service. One of the latter is being prepared for service at Malta. The naval service of the other has not yet been definitely settled.

Sarawak Oilfields (Defence)

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Admiralty whether adequate protection has been or will be provided for the safeguarding of the valuable oilfields in Sarawak; and whether the question of providing oil storage for the Navy in Sarawak rather than at Singapore has been considered?

The Sarawak oilfields are East of 110 degrees of longitude; they are therefore subject to the status quo Clauses of Article XIX of the Washington Treaty, and no coast defences or fortifications can be established in peace time. They would, therefore, rely primarily for their defence on the presence of the British Fleet. As regards the second part of the question, Sarawak is not a suitable position for oil fuel storage for the Fleet.

Docks In British Territory

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Admiralty how many docks, outside the United Kingdom but in British territory, will take the new warships, built and building; where those docks are situated; and what steps are being taken to enlarge existing docks or make other provision for docking the latest ships?

Our latest large warships can be docked in two existing docks in British territory outside the United Kingdom, namely, one at Quebec and the other at St. John, N.B. Two other suitable docks are in course of construction at Esquimalt and at Durban respectively. The latter is due to complete this year, and the former in 1927. In addition, one of the ex-German floating docks allocated to Malta, when lengthened, will be capable of taking the largest of our ships.

British Army

National Reserve (Pension Regulations)

asked the Secretary of State for War if it is his policy to adhere to paragraph 11 of the National Reserve Regulations, 1913; and, if so, will he submit the claim of reservists to the Law Officers of the Crown, in view of the feeling that Army Order 325 of 1919 does not cancel the aforesaid Regulation?

I would refer the hon. Member to the reply which my right hon. Friend gave to the hon. Member for Devonport (Major Hore-Belisha) on 26th February, from which it will be seen that there is no intention of excluding from the benefit of paragraph 11 any man who re-enlisted whilst it was still in force, and who would benefit by being dealt with under it rather than under later Regulations. As regards the last part of the question, I will consider the matter further.

Gallipoli (Imperial War Memorials)

asked the Secretary of State for War what progress has been made in the erection of an Imperial war memorial on Gallipoli: and whether, when it is completed, any official ceremony will be organized?

Two memorials, one at Cape Helles and another at Lone Pine, are being erected by the Imperial War Graves Commission. The constructional work of the Lone Pine memorial is 75 per cent. completed. In the case of that at Cape Helles, the foundations have been completed, and the base of the main shaft commenced. I hope it will be possible to make arrangements in due course for a ceremony of dedication.

Old-Age Pensions

asked the Minister of Pensions if he will take steps to remove the penalties imposed upon old-age pensioners who suffer reductions from the State pension in consequence of thrift or friendly assistance; and will he pay special regard to the fact that old-age pensioners who are compelled to reside in Poor Law institutions suffer the full loss of their pension and are consequently thrown wholly upon the local rates?

I have been asked to reply. I am not in a position to add to the statement made by my right hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer on 27th February last on the Resolution moved by the hon. Member for Accrington (Mr. H. Edwards).

asked the Postmaster-General what the approximate cost of sending old age pensions by post would be?

If the hon. Member contemplates the sending of cash through the post, it would be necessary to register each letter, and the cost of registration alone would amount to about £650,000 a year.

Naval And Military Pensions And Grants

Appeals

asked the Minister of Pensions whether it is the practice of his Ministry to refuse to put before the pensions appeal tribunals cases in which, in the opinion of the Ministry, the appeal is out of time, instead of leaving it to the tribunal to decide such points for itself, and giving the person who desires to appeal an opportunity of being heard with regard to them; and, if not, whether, and, if so, why, the appeal of Mr. W. H. Dain, of 115, Isledon Road, Finsbury Park, No. 53,338, which he has been trying to bring before the tribunal for nearly 12 months past, has been kept from coming forward by the Ministry?.

The statutory requirement that an appeal on the question of entitlement must be made within a year of decision is absolute. It is the practice of my Department, in all cases where the appeal is out of time, to point out this fact to a would-be appellant, but where he presses that, nevertheless, his case should be transmitted to the appeal tribunal, this is done. I have looked personally into the papers in connection with the particular case referred to. I find that the question of appeal against the decision on entitlement given by the Ministry in 1920 was unfortunately complicated by the suggestion of a fresh disability being claimed in respect of further service, alleged to have been rendered by the man in 1917. I have given directions that the appeal on the prior issue shall proceed at once.

asked the Minister of Pensions whether he is aware that on occasion pensions are refused by his Department on the ground that the applicant's disability is not attributable to war service, but that on appeal to the appeal tribunal the decision of his Department is at times held to be mistaken; and whether he will see that in such cases pension shall become payable from the date the disability was incurred, as would have been the case had his Department correctly admitted liability in the first instance and not merely from the date that the applicant lodges his appeal against a decision subsequently held by the appeal tribunal to be erroneous?

I would refer the hon. and gallant Member to the answer which I gave to the hon. Member for North Bristol (Mr. Ayles) on the 27th February, of which I am sending him a copy.

Disability Pensions

asked the Minister of Pensions whether his attention has been called to the case of an ex-service man, Hubert Henry Collins, 3, Craven Road, Inkpen, Berks, who has gunshot wounds in both hands, who was discharged from Edmonton Military Hospital on the 23rd October, 1920, and at first received full disability pension, afterwards reduced to 80 per cent. disability, afterwards reduced to 60 per cent. disability, then increased to 70 per cent. disability, and again increased to 80 per cent. disability; whether in this case, in view of the impossibility of the man finding employment, the award of total disability will be made permanent; and whether he will take steps to prevent disabled ex-service men going through these constant examinations?

I am informed by my medical advisers that the condition of this man's disability has not, so far, been such as to justify the making of a final award. The case will, however, be carefully re-considered with that object in view. I may add that the present assessment of 80 per cent. represents the considered opinion of a specially constituted medical board, which comprised a surgical specialist and a neurologist.

Treatment Allowances

asked the Minister of Pensions whether his attention has been drawn to the hardship inflicted on men in receipt of treatment and unable to work in consequence of disabilities due to or aggravated by war service who are not in receipt of treatment allowances; and whether it is proposed to amend Circular 204 and thus make provision that whether on home treatment or panel doctor treatment a man who is totally unable to work by reason of his war disability shall receive treatment allowances?

The suggestion made by my hon. Friend would require an amendment of long-standing provisions of the Warrant, and not merely of the terms of the Circular referred to, which drew attention to those provisions.

Ninth Lancers (Sergeant-Major Casebow)

asked the Minister of Pensions whether he will investigate the case of Sergeant-major G. Casebow, The Terrace, Downham Market, late of the 9th Lancers; whether he is aware that the increase of his pension is being discontinued because he cannot furnish a certified statement of his wife's income; that this man has not seen his wife for nine years and does not know if she is still alive or not; and under what authority the increase is being discontinued?

The increase was discontinued under the authority of the Pensions Increase Act, 1920, Section 7 (1) of which states "the expression 'Means' in the case of a married person includes the means of both husband and wife." The question as to whether a man who is separated from his wife and has no knowledge of her whereabouts, and consequently is unable to declare his wife's income, can be regarded as a single man for the purposes of the Pensions Increase Act is under consideration, and a decision will be given as soon as possible in the case in question.

Final Award (F C Quinton)

asked the Minister of Pensions whether his attention has been called to the case of F. C. Quinton, Berkeley Terrace, Newbury, Berkshire, Ministry of Pensions No. ll/M/62,542, Tribunal Case No. 10/A/1,894; whether he is aware that this pensioner, though still suffering from his war disability, and until last week in a war hospital, is not in receipt of a pension; whether, under the existing Regulations, a pensioner may become entitled to treatment in a Ministry of Pensions hospital for his pensionable disability, notwithstanding that a final award of pension for a limited number of weeks has been made, and the pensioner's appeal against such final award has been disallowed; and whether, in reviewing the existing Regulations, he will consider the advisability of reopening a final award, or of allowing further appeal, when the pensioner is admitted for further treatment after such final award has been made or this appeal disallowed?

I am aware of the case referred to. The provision of medical treatment, together, if necessary, with full treatment allowances, for a temporary exacerbation of a disability in respect of which a final award has been made is contemplated by the instructions of the Ministry, and would not of itself give ground for considering that the final award was erroneous.

Royal Army Service Corps (Lieutenant Rhodes)

asked the Minister of Pensions whether his attention has been called to the case of W. E. Rhodes, of 2 and 3, Station Approach, Newbury, Berks, who, while serving as a lieutenant in the Royal Army Service Corps, although medically unfit for overseas duty in 1918, volunteered to take a column overseas, and while so doing was accidentally knocked down and had his left leg crushed by a three-ton lorry, resulting in two amputations and 12 months' treatment in hospital; whether he is aware that, as the loss of the limb did not occur in action, he has only been awarded a pension of £75 per annum without any wound gratuity; and whether, in this case and in similar cases, wound gratuity will be awarded for the loss of a limb in addition to a pension?

I have been asked to reply. Lieutenant Rhodes, whose injury occurred on Salisbury Plain and not overseas, has been dealt with under Article 648 of the Pay Warrant of 1914 and Army Order 3 of 1916, under which the rate of pension admissible under the above-quoted Article was increased in order to give subalterns the same rate as captains. Article 648 is reproduced below, and it will be seen that Lieutenant Rhodes is in receipt of the maximum rate admissible for an officer of his rank, and further, that the rate awarded has regard to the disablement caused by the injury. Under the Regulations no gratuity is admissible in addition to the pension, and in the circumstances I much regret that nothing further can be done.

Ii—Wounds And Injuries Received Otherwise Than In Action

Loss of Limb or Eye or very serious Injury.

648. If an officer of our Regular Forces, Special Reserve of Officers, Reserve of Officers, Militia, Territorial Force or Volunteers loses, through the performance of military duty, otherwise than in action, a limb or an eye, or sustains any other injury or injuries reported by the regulated medical authority to be of a permanent and very serious nature, he may be recommended for a pension not exceeding that shown in the following tables:—

Pension.

The rate of pension and the period of its continuance shall be determined by the merits of each case, special regard being had to the fact of the injured officer being or continuing to be disabled, or otherwise, from the performance of his duties, and to the degree of contributory negligence (if any) attributable to him. The pension shall, in all other respects, be subject to the conditions applicable to officers injured in action.

Rank of officer at the date of the wound or injury:

General Officer.Maximum pension Special.
£ a year.
Colonel or Lieut.-Colonel250
Major150
Captain75
Lieut. or Second-Lieut.50

Non-European officers of all Arms:

Maximum pension. Rupees a month.
Subadar25
Jemadar12

In cases in which less than the maximum rate of pension allowed by the foregoing tables has been granted to an office while serving, the Army Council may, under exceptional circumstances, increase such pension to a rate not exceeding the maximum, on the officer's retirement from the Service.

Ex-Service Men

Mental Cases (After-Care)

asked the Minister of Pensions whether he has invited the Mental After-care Association to draft a scheme for the purpose of looking after ex-service men discharged from asylums; and, if so, is he prepared to meet the cost of such scheme?

The answer to the first part of the question is in the negative, but for some time my Department has been in communication with the Mental After-care Association with a view to exploring as to how far the Association's activities in connection with the after-care of civilians discharged from asylums would embrace the pensioner. We welcome the co-operation of the Association, but I would remind the House that in so far as the pensioner, when discharged from an asylum, will need treatment or institutional care, the necessary provision is made by my Department.

Stationery Office (Northern Area Branch)

asked the Financial Secretary to the Treasury if he is aware that 21 ex-service men employed at His Majesty's Stationery Office, Northern Area Branch, Hollingwood, Manchester, are at present under notice of dismissal while women and several non-service men are being retained; and whether he will suspend the dismissal notices so that arrangements may be made for a more equitable reduction of the personnel engaged there?

In consequence of a reduction of work at the Northern Area Branch of His Majesty's Stationery Office, notices have had to be served on several members of the staff. To determine which members of the staff should be given notice, two substitution committees were set up, in accordance with the recommendations of Lord Lytton's Committee. The selection of individuals for discharge is the result of the unanimous recommendations of these committees, both of which included a representative of the ex-service men in the branch. I regret that I am unable to re-open the conclusions of the committees.

Post Office

asked the Postmaster-General whether his attention has been called to the case of E. S. Holloway, Mortimer, Berkshire, who was a telegraph messenger before the War and left the Post Office service because there were no vacancies for postmen, but was told that if he served seven years in the Army a position as a town postman would be found for him; whether he is aware that his seven years expired in 1914; that in consequence of the war his time in the Army was extended to 12 years, and that on being discharged he was appointed a rural postman on lowest pay, whereas those who did no Army service and did not join up are in receipt of the higher grade of pay; and whether he will arrange that this man and others in similar positions shall count the period of War service with the Forces towards the period of Post Office service required to qualify him for the higher grade of pay?

I am having inquiry made into the matter, and will communicate with the hon. Member as soon as possible.

Poor Law Relief

asked the Minister of Pensions, the number of ex-service men with their dependants receiving out-door relief, those resident in workhouses, and those who are in mental institutions and charged to local rates, respectively; and whether, if such information is not now available, he will take the necessary steps at once to collect the same for early presentation to this House?

I would refer the hon. Member to the answers which my right hon. Friend gave in reply to similar questions yesterday.

asked the Minister of Health, the number of ex-service men with their dependants receiving outdoor relief; the number of ex-service men resident in workhouses; and the number now charged to local rates who are in mental institutions?

Education

Proposed New School, Dormanstown

asked the President of the Board of Education whether, having regard to the urgency of the matter, he is now in a position to sanction the erection of a school at Dormanstown, in the borough of Redcar, which was petitioned for in December, 1922, by all the parents and has the support of the borough council, the North Riding County Education Committee, and the local education authority?

As I informed the hon. Member on the 28th February last, I am inquiring into this matter. I am fully aware of the circumstances of this case and I understand that the local education authority have the matter under consideration. I shall be ready to give immediate and favourable attention to any satisfactory proposals when I receive them from the local education authority.

School Accommodation, Ramsgate

asked the President of the Board of Education whether, with respect to the report on the Ramsgate non-provided elementary schools, he can state if the local education authority propose to replace the school which has been condemned as unfit; whether, in the event of the local authority failing to take such action, the Government grant will be withdrawn; whether he is aware of a proposal that St. George's School should be transferred into a higher tops school; that this particular school is wholly unsuitable for such a purpose and that the proposal would be detrimental to the existing secondary schools; and whether he will make inquiries into this matter?

I am not aware which school is referred to in the first part of the question. The Board now have under consideration proposals of the managers for remedying defects disclosed in the reports of His Majesty's inspector; and a decision will be taken as early as possible. I have received a proposal from the local education authority for Ramsgate regarding the provision of higher tops at St. George's School. In considering this proposal the Board will, of course, take into account all the circumstances of the case.

Cinemas (Juvenile Employes)

asked the Home Secretary whether he is aware that, in many parts of the country, young persons are employed in cinemas for 60 hours per week at low rates of wages; and whether he will take action to protect the interests of these young persons?

There are no statutory provisions regulating the conditions of employment of young persons above school age in cinemas, but the whole question of the conditions of employment of young persons in occupations which are at present unregulated is under the consideration of my Department, and I hope that before long I may be able to find an opportunity of dealing with it.

Dangerous Drugs Act

asked the Home Secretary the actual effect of the Dangerous Drugs Act, 1923, in checking the illicit importation of such drugs?

The Act came into force towards the end of last May, and its full effect on the smuggling of drugs into this country, and on the illicit traffic generally, cannot yet be estimated, The additional powers, however, given by the Act have already been found of great value, and the heavier penalties which the Courts are now empowered to impose have already, it is believed, had a deterrent effect on the traffic.

Opium Traffic

asked the Home Secretary the present position as to the regulation of the international opium traffic and restriction of production?

The hon. and gallant Member will be aware that the general supervision of the traffic is entrusted to the League of Nations, so far as its members are concerned, subject to the provisions of the International Conventions in force, and that the League has appointed an Advisory Committee to deal with the subject. The proceedings of this Committee, and the action taken by the League and the several Governments on its recommendations will be found in the official publications of the League. As a result of the preparatory work done by the Committee, it was decided at the assembly of the League last September to call two International Conferences this year to consider the Far Eastern situation, and the question of the restriction of production respectively. If there is any particular point on which the hon. and gallant Member desires information, perhaps he will put down another question.

Juvenile Courts (Magistrates)

asked the Home Secretary if any special qualifications are required of justices of the peace who preside in Children's Courts; and, as it is at present necessary to be more than 55 years of age to be a justice of the peace for these Courts, will he recommend, as these cases are purely to do with children, that young men and women are appointed in future?

In London, under the provisions of the Juvenile Courts (Metropolis) Act, 1920, the Magistrates who preside over the Juvenile Courts are nominated by the Secretary of State, who is required to have regard to their previous experience and their special qualifications for dealing with cases of juvenile offenders. There is no such statutory requirement elsewhere, but, in a circular letter issued in April, 1921, the Home Office recommended that a special rota of Justices should be assigned to Juvenile Courts, which should include men and women who have gained experience of the problems of juvenile delinquency or who are otherwise specially interested in the training of young people. The Home Office has given no countenance whatever to the suggestion that a Magistrate must be middle-aged before he can sit in a Juvenile Court, but it seems to me that considerations of age are less important than qualities of sympathy with, and understanding of, young people.

Cork Prison (Compensation Claim)

asked the Home Secretary whether he will expedite payment of the £400 compensation awarded, in March, 1920, to ex-Principal Warder Lloyd in respect of injuries received in Cork Prison in November, 1918?

I have been asked to answer this question. Payment of the amount remaining due on this decree was made to Mr. Lloyd's solicitors on 13th February last.

Shops (Early Closing) Act

asked the Home Secretary whether he will consider the amending of the Shops (Early Closing) Act so that small shops dealing in tobacco and confectionery may remain open until a later hour than at present provided that the employés' hours of work are not extended?

No, Sir. I am not aware of any sufficient grounds for any general extension of the closing hours at present fixed for these trades, and there are obvious objections to any differentiation in this matter between the larger and smaller shops.

Aliens Act

asked the Home Secretary whether, in the administration of the Aliens Act, any permits have been refused since the beginning of the year to would-be immigrants suspected of planning, as the main object of their visit, participation in advanced political propaganda in this country; and how many such permits were refused in 1923?

This is not a matter which can well be expressed in figures. I can perhaps best meet the hon. Member's point by assuring him that if figures could be extracted they would not afford evidence of any recent change in the administration of the Aliens Order in this connection.

Prison Service

asked the Home Secretary, seeing that disciplinary appeal tribunals do not exist at present in the prison service, whether he will ascertain the representative opinion of all ranks in the prison service on the advisability of establishing independent appeal tribunals; and whether he will take this opinion before deciding the appeal tribunals question for the police service?

The various ranks of the prison service already have the means of representing their collective views to the Secretary of State, and I need hardly say that any such representation made to me would have due consideration. The question of an appeal tribunal for the police was raised at the recent meeting of the Police Council, and I have undertaken that it shall be discussed with representatives from the various sections of the Council.

Women Police

asked the Home Secretary whether he is considering the appointment of a chief officer for the women police in different parts of the country; and, if so, whether he proposes to set up a special Department at the Home Office to deal entirely with the work, employment, etc., of women police and to report to His Majesty's Inspector of Constabulary on such matters as he may desire regarding the women police?

In any force where there is a substantial number of women there are advantages in arranging, without prejudice to the ordinary responsibility of officers under whom the women may be working, for matters affecting the welfare and general conditions of service of the women police to be brought within the purview of the senior woman police officer of the force; and an arrangement of this kind has been made in the metropolis. As regards the second part of the question, I hope that before long it will be possible to review the experience now gained of the employment of police women under varying conditions in different parts of the country, and that as a result of such a review a definite step forward may be made. The question of the possibility of increased employment of police women and of the organisation which would be appropriate if the numbers grow will necessarily arise in connection with this review.

Naval Armaments

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether the recent conference at Rome on naval armaments, under the auspices of the League of Nations, in Europe, has come to an end; what has been the result; and who were the British representatives?

I have been asked to reply. The reply to the first part of the question is in the affirmative. As regards the second part, the Commission has reported to the Council of the League, and until the Report is published or considered by the Council it would scarcely be proper to indicate its contents. Rear-Admiral Aubrey Smith, C.B., M.V.O., was the British representative.

Arbitral Tribunal (Enemy Debts)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether steps can be taken to secure some acceleration in the procedure of the Anglo-German Mixed Arbitral Tribunal constituted under the Treaty of Versailles; and whether he is aware that there are instances where claimants have been informed there is no chance of their cases being reached this year, though statements of claim have been made to the Foreign Office as long ago as 1918, and the written proceedings were closed and statements of witnesses lodged as long ago as last June?

In order to accelerate the work of the Anglo-German Mixed Arbitral Tribunal, a second division of the Tribunal was set up last year. This division started work last October, and it is hoped that the result will be to accelerate the settlement of the cases still outstanding. I recognise, and deplore, the fact that considerable delays have arisen in the working of the first division.

Iraq (Air Operations)

asked the Under-Secretary of State for Air whether the policy of the late Secretary of State for Air is being continued in Iraq under which bombing raids are strictly prohibited for the purpose of the collection of taxation; and whether, in the interests of the Royal Air Force in Iraq, he will state whether bombing raids for the purposes of taxation have ever been carried out in the past?

The reply to the first part of the question is in the affirmative. With regard to the second part, I have already informed the House on two occasions that bombing raids have never been carried out for purposes of taxation.

Housing

Air Ministry's Unoccupied Houses

asked the Under-Secretary of State for Air the total number, if any, of unoccupied buildings suitable for dwelling-houses belonging, or the lease of which belongs, to the Air Ministry?

Apart from a few houses, recently purchased, which are being prepared for occupation by Royal Air Force personnel, there are 53 unoccupied dwelling-houses on land owned or leased by the Air Ministry; these are all at the airship base at Cardington, and as regards their occupation I would refer the hon. Member to my reply to the hon. Member for Mid Bedford (Mr. Linfield) on the 18th February.

Skilled And Unskilled Labour (Proportions)

asked the Minister of Health if he has formed any estimate of the relative proportion of skilled to unskilled men employed on the erection of any given number of houses of the A and B types?

The proportions will vary somewhat with local circumstances, but, on the average, the relative number may be taken to be in the proportion of three skilled men to two unskilled.

Labour Supply

asked the Minister of Health if he has formed any estimate of the number of men employed in the decade of 1901–11 in the erection of houses for working classes; and if he has formed any estimate of the number of men that would be required to carry out a programme of 200,000 houses per year during the remainder of the decade 1921–31?

Materials are not available for framing a reliable estimate of the number of men employed in the erection of working-class houses during the decade 1901–11. With regard to the last part of the question, the matter is under consideration, and I am unable to make a statement at present.

Flats, Islington

asked the Minister of Health whether he is aware of the refusal of the London County Council to advance money under Section 5 of the Housing, Etc., Act, 1923, for the erection of a block of flats in Highbury New Park, Islington; and whether he will make representations to the London County Council on the subject or, if he considers it necessary, whether he will make provision in his new Housing Bill to extend that Section so as to cover the case of flats?

I have been in communication with the London County Council on this subject. The Council have taken the opinion of counsel, and are advised that they cannot with safety make the advance applied for under the existing statutory powers. I will consider the suggestions of the hon. Member as to amending legislation.

asked the Minister of Health whether he is aware of the refusal of the London County Council, expressed in a letter to the Islington Borough Council of 25th January last, to make bye-laws under Section 94 of the Public Health (London) Act, 1891, and Section 26 of the Housing, and Town Planning, Etc., Act, 1919, for the keeping in repair and adequate lighting of the common staircases in blocks of model dwellings or flats; and whether he will make representations to the London County Council on the subject or, if he considers it necessary, whether he will make provision in his new Housing Bill to extend the power of making bye-laws to cover the case of model dwellings and flats?

I was not previously aware of this particular matter, and I will make inquiries.

National Health Insurance Acts

asked the Minister of Health whether he proposes to bring in a measure consolidating the National Health Insurance Acts?

A Bill to consolidate the National Health Insurance Acts was introduced in another place on 28th February, was read a second time on 4th March, and is now before the Joint Committee on Consolidation Bills.

Kingston-On-Thames Guardians (Mr J W Franks)

asked the Minister of Health if he is aware of the circumstances under which Mr. J. W. Franks, one of the representatives of the South Ward of the Parish of Kingston-on-Thames, became disqualified for holding the position of guardian, namely on account of the fact that ho became a paying patient in the Kingston and District Hospital, for his treatment therein paying a sum of £3 3s. per week besides the fee for a special operating surgeon; and will he take steps to bring about an amendment of the law so that the disqualification to hold the office of guardian shall not be suffered in any future similar cases?

I am aware of the case to which the hon. Member refers, and I would draw his attention to Clause 7 of the Representation of the People Act (1918) Amendment Bill which received a Second Reading on the 29th February last.

Pauper Lunatics (Exchequer Grants)

asked the Minister of Health whether the Government propose, in view of the heavy financial burdens imposed on boards of guardians, to introduce legislation increasing the Exchequer grants in respect of pauper lunatics in asylums, and making provisions for new grants in respect of pauper lunatics, imbeciles, and epileptics maintained under the care of Poor Law authorities in accordance with the recommendations made by the Kempe Committee in 1914?

I regret that I cannot give any undertaking as to the introduction of legislation for this purpose.

Income Tax

asked the Financial Secretary to the Treasury whether he is aware that the Income Tax officials for the Charing Cross district have made additional assessments under Schedule E in respect of the years 1919–20, 1920–21 and 1921–22 on employés who have already been over-assessed by reason of their original assessments having been made under Schedule E instead of Schedule D; why these additional assessments have been served, having regard to the statement of the then Solicitor-General made in the course of the Debate on the Finance Bill that Sub-section (6) was not retrospective and did not apply to the years 1919, 1920 and 1921; and whether, in conformity with the spirit of the intention of the Government as expressed by the then Solicitor-General, he will give instructions for the assessments in question to be withdrawn and so avoid the expenditure of public and private moneys involved in recourse to the Courts to determine whether the Sub-section in question is, or is not, to be interpreted in a sense contrary to such expressed intention?

Year 1913–14.Year 1921–22.
All Schedules.Shedule A.All Schedules.Schedule A.
££££
Gross Income1,167,184,229282,262,1093,214,828,625296,691,397
Deductions (necessary to reduce the Gross Income to the Actual Income liable to tax) for exemptions, repairs to property, wear and tear of machinery, overcharges in assessment, etc.216,143,742106,600,441752,350,246113,532,628
Actual Income liable to tax before deduction of personal or family allowances and reliefs.951,040,487175,661,6682,462,478,379183,158,769
It will be seen that the gross income is subject to considerable deductions of the nature stated in order to arrive at the actual income assessed. It will be appreciated also that, owing to changes in Income Tax law, the basis of computation of the actual income is not the same in both years.

Ss "Caid"

asked the Financial Secretary to the Treasury if the s.s. "Caid," which left the River Clyde on 9th January last with a large cargo of whisky, has yet arrived at the island of St. Pierre, off the coast of Newfoundland; and if any protest has been received

The matter to which my hon. Friend refers has been brought to my notice. I am looking into it and will communicate with him as soon as I am in a position to do so.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what are the latest available figures showing the gross income brought under review for purposes of Income Tax; how much of that total was due to the ownership of land and other real property assessed under Schedule A; and what were the corresponding figures for the last completed year before the War?

The income assessed in the United Kingdom for Income Tax purposes in the years 1913–14 and 1921–22 (the latest year for which final figures are available) was as follows:from the Newfoundland Government on the subject?

It is not known whether the vessel has yet reached the destination for which she was cleared. No protest has been received from the Newfoundland Government.

Inter-Allied Indebtedness

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if France has made any payments this year on account of the capital or interest to the United States of America; and, if so, how much has been paid to date?

Double Taxation

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if double taxation comes within the terms of reference of the Committee to be set up to consider the National Debt?

German Reparation (Recovery) Act

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he can give a list of the articles which may be imported from Germany without payment of the Reparations Duty?

I have been asked to reply. The only articles first consigned to this country from Germany which may be imported without payment of the levy under the German Reparation (Recovery) Act, 1921, are those goods which have been exempted from the levy by Board of Trade Order. I am sending a copy of the Orders at present in force to the hon. Member.

Fighting Services (Pay)

asked the Prime Minister whether he will give an undertaking that no reductions will be made in the pay of the fighting services whilst his Government remains in office?

The policy of the Government will be announced without delay. Some details have to be settled first.

Draft Treaty Of Mutual Assistance

asked the Prime Minister if he will give careful consideration to the Draft Treaty of Mutual Assistance and submit it to the criticism of a strong representative committee, with instructions to report in time to enable the Government to formulate its policy before the fifth assembly meeting of the League of Nations in September, 1924?

I can add nothing to the several answers recently given on this question.

Draft Criminal Code

asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies if the draft criminal code prepared for the Colonial Office, and published in 1901, Miscellaneous No. 136, is out of print; and, if so, will he cause it to be reprinted and published?

The Draft Criminal Code in question, which was printed but not published in 1901, was intended primarily for the use of the Colonial Office. The Secretary of State decided at the time that it should not be published, and I do not think that any useful purpose would be served by reconsidering his decision.

Northern Ireland Boundaries (Conference)

asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies whether any suggestion has been received from the Irish Free State Government for the resumption of the Conference summoned by him on the subject of the Irish boundaries which was opened on 1st February and adjourned to a later date; and, if so, what steps is he prepared to take for the settlement of the boundaries issue?

Yes, Sir. It has unfortunately been necessary to delay a further meeting of the Conference owing to the regrettable illness of the Prime Minister of Northern Ireland, but His Majesty's Government is at present in communication with both Irish Governments with a view to the resumption of the Conference at the earliest possible date.

Road Grants (Administration)

asked the Minister of Transport if he is aware that the present system of the Ministry in making the county councils the intermediary between the Ministry and the rural district councils in respect of roads other than main roads results in unnecessary duplication of work all round; and, seeing that non-county highway authorities with their intimate local knowledge are more capable of performing the task of highway administration in their own respective districts than are the county councils, will he take steps to adjust this grievance?

As I stated on the 26th February, in answer to a question from the hon. and gallant Member for the Lewes Division (Lieut.-Colonel Campion), direct communication is always maintained between my Department and the district councils. I am not prepared, however, to depart from the present procedure by which use is made of the county councils in the administration of the grants towards the maintenance and improvement of all Class I and Class II roads in their areas. This procedure has been found by experience to work satisfactorily and has the advantage of enabling the county councils to keep under general observation the principal lines of through communication by road in their areas.

Workmen's Compensation (Miner's Nystagmus)

asked the Secretary for Mines whether the Home Office is considering the scheduling of nystagmus as a disease under the Workmen's Compensation Act; and whether the malady is so scheduled in any other country?

I have been asked to reply. Miner's nystagmus has been scheduled under the Act ever since 1907. As explained in reply to a question by the hon. Member for Ormskirk on the 21st ultimo, proposals for altering the description of the disease in the Schedule are under consideration. I understand that compensation is payable in respect of the disease in Belgium, France, Germany, and certain States of the United States of America.

Post Office (Wages, Chepstow And Lydney)

asked the Postmaster-General whether he is aware that representations have been made showing that the cost of living in Chepstow and Lydney is very high; that the postal officials at these offices receive much lower wages than in many towns where the cost of living expenses is not so great; and what steps he is taking to remove this irregularity, in view of the many months' consideration given by his Department to this application?

Representations in regard to the classification for scales of pay of a considerable number of offices, including Chepstow and Lydney, have been made by the Union of Post Office Workers. The claims have been discussed with the union and will be further discussed as soon as the inquiries which were found to be necessary have been completed.

Dr Barnardo's Homes (Emigrants)

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Overseas Trade Department whether his Department exercises any supervision over emigrants from Dr. Barnardo's Homes in the Colonies to which they go; and, if so, for how long and in what way?

The hon. Member will realise that the supervision of any class of British migrants to one of His Majesty s Dominions is a matter for the Government of that Dominion. I am informed, however, that in Canada inspectors appointed by the Canadian Government and by Dr. Barnardo's Homes supervise the migrants in question by means of regular visits until they attain the age of 18 years. Even after that age, the inspectors of Dr. Barnardo's Homes usually continue to keep in touch with the migrants. I take this opportunity of stating that the Government of Canada has intimated that a visit from representatives of the Imperial Government with a view to obtaining first-hand information in Canada in regard to the system of child migration, and specially the placing and supervision in Canada, will be very welcome to that Government. It has, therefore, been decided that representatives of the Overseas Settlement Committee should visit Canada during the summer, and I have received with great satisfaction an intimation that the Department of Immigration and Colonisation of the Dominion Government will be glad to afford all possible assistance.

Scotland

Poor Law Emergency Provisions Act

asked the Secretary for Scotland the names of the parish councils which have addressed to him representations against the continuance of the provisions of the Poor Law Emergency Provisions (Scotland) Act, 1921, until 15th May, 1925?

The names are as follow:

  • Aberdeen,
  • Bonhill,
  • Cardross,
  • Dalziel,
  • Dumbarton,
  • Eastwood,
  • Kirkcaldy and Dysart,
  • Old Kilpatrick,
  • Port Glasgow, and
  • Renfrew.

Agricultural Settlement, Orinsay, Island Of Lewis (Footpath)

asked the Secretary for Scotland whether his attention has been called to a report by the Lewis School Management Committee, after investigating the conditions at the new Board of Agriculture settlement at Orinsay, in the Island of Lewis, with a view of determining whether the children of that township could safely attend the nearest school, in which report the committee averred that, by reason of the condition of the moor and the absence of a footpath promised by the Board of Agriculture, it was dangerous for any of the children to attempt to attend school;

Orkney.Shetland.Total.
Expenses of County Council Election in 1922£40 8s. 10d.£139 13s. 2d.£180 2s. 0d.
Cost per County Council Elector on the Register.1¼d.3½d.2½d.
The total cost of the General Election for the Orkney and Shetland constituency in 1922 was £659 4s. 5d., a cost per Parliamentary elector on the register of 6½d.The foregoing figures are not, however, comparable, because, while the Parliamentary election in 1922 was contested, at the county council election there were no contests in any of the 25 Orkney electoral divisions, and there were no contests in 19 of the 27 Shetland electoral divisions. Moreover, a Parliamentary election involves certain items of expenditure (for example, in connection with the issue of ballot papers to absent voters) which are not involved in county council elections.

and whether he is now prepared to end this state of affairs by giving such instructions as shall ensure that the children can with safety attend school?

My attention has been called to the report referred to. The Board of Agriculture are prepared to assist the holders to provide the path referred to in the question on certain conditions, and as soon as the holders have complied with these conditions the work can proceed.

Trawling, Minch

asked the Secretary for Scotland whether he is prepared to take the necessary steps to prohibit trawling in the Minch?

I have no statutory powers which authorise me to take the steps suggested by the hon. Member.

Elections, Orkney And Shetland (Cost)

asked the Secretary for Scotland the costs, respectively, of conducting a county council election in Orkney and in Shetland, and of a Parliamentary election for the combined counties; and the comparative cost per head of voters on the register?

For the last county council election the particulars desired were as follows:

Government Departments

Ministry Of Pensions

asked the Minister of Pensions whether he is giving consideration to the claim of the salaried officers in the Ministry to permanent establishment in Government service?

Representations, in the sense indicated, have been received from the Ministry of Pensions Salaried Officers' Association. The matter is, however, one affecting the whole of the Civil Service, and must be considered in that light. I would refer the hon. Member to the reply given on this subject by my hon. Friend the Financial Secretary to the Treasury to the hon. Member for Oxford (Mr. Gray) on the 6th instant.

asked the Minister of Pensions what reductions were made in the staff of the Ministry at Sanctuary Buildings during each quarter of the year 1923; and what was the number in each grade?

Established Staff.Male.Female.
Quarter endingQuarter ending
31st March, 1923.30th June, 1923.30th Sept., 1923.31st Dec, 1923.31st March, 1923.30th June, 1923.30th Sept., 1923.31st Dec, 1923.
Superior Grades.Increase 7.Nil* Increase 23.* Increase 9.Increase 1.Decrease 1.Decrease 1.Decrease 1.
Clerical Grades.Increase 7.Increase 7.Decrease 2.Increase 11.Decrease 1.Increase 1.Increase 1.Increase 2.
Typing StaffIncrease 3.Increase 7.Increase 9.Decrease 1.
Minor Grades.Increase 4.NilNilNil
Established Staff—Net Increase 85.
Temporary Staff.Male.Female.
Quarter endingQuarter ending
31st March, 1923.30th June, 1923.30th Sept., 1923.31st Dec, 1923.31st March, 1923.30th June, 1923.30th Sept., 1923.31st Dec., 1923.
Temporary Officials.Decrease 4.Decrease 9.Decrease 3.Increase 5.Decrease 2.Decrease 3.Decrease 1.Decrease 1.
Graded Clerks.Decrease 21.Decrease 15.Decrease 5.Increase 13.Decrease 13.NilDecrease 1.Decrease 3.
Typing StaffIncrease 1.Decrease 8.Decrease 13.Increase 2.
Minor Grades.Decrease 6.Decrease 3.Decrease 1.Increase 2.Decrease 12.NilNilNil
Temporary Staff—Net Decrease 101.
Net Decrease during 1923 in total number of Staff= 16.
It should be noted that during the latter half of 1923 sections of work formerly performed at Chelsea were transferred with their staffs to Sanctuary Buildings.
* The posts filled were authorized under the Regrading Schemes with effect from 1st April, 1922, and in a number of cases the duties had previously been performed by officers of lower rank in receipt of allowances.

asked the Minister of Pensions whether the Financial Assistant Secretary reports direct to the Minister on matters concerning finance, accounts division, and pension issue office; whether the Director-General of Medical Services

It is not practicable, owing to the very numerous grades involved, to give within reasonable limits the detailed information desired by the hon. and gallant Member, but the figures contained in the following table, which show the net quarterly increases and decreases in the main categories of the staff during 1923, may, perhaps, serve his purpose:has direct access to the Minister and full control of the medical branch; whether the Director-General of Awards has direct access to the Minister and full control of the awards branch; whether the Inspector-General has direct access to the Minister and full control of local administration; and whether he proposes to report to the Treasuary pool certain officers of the secretariat for employment in other branches of the Civil Service?

The arrangements for the control and organisation of the Ministry of Pensions follow the lines adopted in other large Departments of State. The heads of the Divisions referred to in my hon. Friend's question are responsible to me through the Permanent Secretary for the proper control of the work of their respective branches, and I personally consult them whenever I conside it necessary to do so. It is not clear to me what officers are referred to in the last part of the question, but my hon. Friend may rest assured that I will miss no opportunity of promoting efficiency and economy in administration.

also asked the Minister of Pensions whether there is any Regulation in his Department which prohibits members of the staff communicating with the Press; whether his attention has been called to an alleged interview with Sir George Chrystal, Permanent Secretary to the Ministry of Pensions, which appeared in the "Westminster Gazette" on the 8th March, 1924; and whether, if, as alleged, the statements were made by the Permanent Secretary, it is proposed to take disciplinary action in the matter?

There is such a Regulation, and its object is to prevent un authorised communications being made to the Press. The interview to which reference is made in the latter part of the question was given on my behalf and with my express authority.

asked the Minister of Pensions whether the premises at 122, George Street, Edinburgh, which are at present occupied by the Pensions Ministry, are to be taken over by the Scottish Board of Health; if so, what alternative accommodation is to be provided in Edinburgh for the Pensions Ministry; and, if not, is it intended to keep these premises in the occupation of the Pensions Ministry?

There is no proposal to move the Ministry of Pensions from 122, George Street at the moment. A move of this nature may, however, take place whenever the Ministry of Pensions staff diminishes to a point which would render it desirable to utilise the premises to better advantage by housing in them another Department.

War Office

asked the Secretary of State for War the number of civilian employés at the War Office, including temporary employés, on 1st April, 1914, and at the present time and the comparative amounts in salaries, etc., of this personnel; and how much in the difference in the latter figure can be attributed to the difference in the cost of living?

In reply to the first part of the question, I would refer the hon. Member to the figures which my right hon. Friend gave him on the 11th instant. As regards the remainder of the question, my right hon. Friend proposes to deal with this subject in his statement on the Army Estimates to-day.

Leave

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the number of days' leave per year granted, respectively, to permanent clerical officers and temporary clerks of two years' service; and whether, seeing that in many Departments permanent clerical officers and temporary clerks are employed in the same sections doing precisely the same work, he will say why any distinction should be made in the leave granted to these two classes, particularly in view of the fact that permanent clerical officers have various other advantages including that of pensionable rights?

The normal leave allowance of clerical officers is 24 working days, writing assistants 18 working days, and of temporary graded clerks 18 working days per annum, in addition to the usual public holidays in each case. As regards the latter part of the question, I would refer to the answer which I gave on the 4th March to the hon. Member for Edinburgh East (Mr. Hogge).

Canteens

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he is aware that most large employers usually provide mess-room or canteen accommodation for their staffs; whether this is done in all Departments of the Civil Service; and whether it is intended to charge the cost of maintaining this accommodation to the staffs concerned contrary to the general practice of employers?

I am aware that many large employers provide such accommodation. As regards the second part of the question, the matter is governed generally by the need for such provision and the availability of accommodation. No charge is made for the accommodation or for its maintenance (within the limits of fair wear and tear), but luncheon clubs are required, in general, to bear charges for heating, lighting, etc., and I consider this arrangement to be an equitable one.

Safeguarding Of Industries Act

asked the President of the Board of Trade how much revenue has been received each month since 1st April, 1923, from the gas mantle trade, under Part II of the Safeguarding of Industries Act?

The net amount of duty received under Part II of the Safeguarding of Industries Act on mantles for in candescent lighting and component parts thereof, during each of the months April,

LONDON ELECTRIC SUPPLY UNDERTAKINGS.—Statement showing the average prices obtained for domestic and industrial supplies during the year 1922 (and 1922–23).
COMPANIES.
Company.Average price obtained per unit during the year ended 31st December, 1922.Year ended 31st December, 1922.
Lighting and Domestic Supplies.Power and Industrial Supplies.Highest charge levied per unit.
d.d.d.
Brompton and Kensington5·542·24F8
Charing Cross—City6·732·14MD8
Charing Cross—West End5·752·50MD8
Chelsea6·372·35F9
City of London5·272·10*MD8
County of London3·78†F8d. and 7d.
Kensington and Knightsbridge4·54†F7·2
London5·511·21F8
Metropolitan7·072·35*F8
Notting Hill6·912·60F
St. James and Pall Mall4·92·32*F
South London3·53†F6
South Metropolitan2·92†F8d. and 6d.
Westminster6·091·45F

1923, to February, 1924, inclusive, is as follows:

1923.
£
April2,450
May1,595
June1,898
July1,909
August3,098
September3,841
October5,432
November4,626
December4,187
1924.
£
January3,721
February3,110

Electricity Supplies, London (Charges)

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he will state, in tabular form, the cost per unit charged for electricity supplied for domestic use and for industrial purposes, respectively, by municipal authorities and public companies in the County of London; and will he state the highest and lowest charge levied?

LOCAL AUTHORITIES.
Metropolitan Borough Council.Average price obtained per unit during the year ended 31st March, 1923.Year ended 31st March, 1923.
Lighting and Domestic Supplies.Power and Industrial Supplies.Highest charge levied per unit.
d.d.d.
Battersea5·021·38F6
Bermondsey6·162·05F7
Bethnal Green4·311·94MD8
Fulham5·681·50F6
Hackney4·661·82F6
Hammersmith5·781·27F6
Hampstead6·741·97*F7
Islington6·041·94F
Poplar3·511·35F
St. Marylebone2·83†F
St. Pancras5·181·50*F6d. and 5d.
Shoreditch5·431·95*F6
Southwark6·692·25F8
Stoke Newington5·622·71F6
Stepney3·861·52MD8
Woolwich4·101·30F6

* Includes Heating and Cooking.

† Not separately shown in the returns.
M.D. Indicates highest rate of charge under maximum demand system of charge.
F Indicates highest charge on flat-rate system.

Enemy Action Claims

asked the President of the Board of Trade if he is aware of the continued suffering of men who cannot obtain any decision in respect of claims they have sent in to the Reparation Claims Department, and which are regarded as belated; and whether, in view of their distress, he will expedite the Report of the Commission which has to decide as to the policy which shall be adopted with respect to these claims?

The Final Report of the Royal Commission has been presented to Parliament (Cmd. 2066). As to the policy to be adopted with regard to belated claims, I would refer the hon. and gallant Member to the answer given to the hon. Member for Birkenhead East (Mr. G. White) on the 11th March.

Trade And Commerce

Shipbuilding And Engineering Firms (Advances And Guarantees)

asked the President of the Board of Trade what sums of money have been advanced, or are contemplated to be advanced, to shipbuilding or engineering firms; and for what purposes under the Trade Facilities Act or any other heading?

advances are made under Section 1 of the Trade Facilities Act, 1921, as amended by subsequent Acts. If the hon. Member refers to guarantees given by the Treasury, I would refer him to the list of guarantees which the Treasury have expressed a willingness to give as shown in the quarterly returns presented to Parliament.

(2) My hon. Friend the Parliamentary Secretary to the Department of Overseas Trade informs me that as regards the Export Credits scheme no detailed record is readily available as to what sums of money have been advanced or what bills have been guaranteed, or are under contemplation to be guaranteed, specifically to assist shipbuilding or engineering firms. The figures set out below show, however, the advances made in the past, guarantees taken up and guarantees sanctioned but not taken up, in respect of iron and steel manufactures and certain groups of engineering products:

Advances*Guarantees sanctioned and taken up.Guarantees sanctioned but not yet taken up.
£s.d.£s.d.£s.d.
1. Vehicles (Locomotives, Ships, Aircraft).1,200,359193500,78825
2. Machinery49,730013,438,5454297,944120
3. Electrical goods83,787157
Iron and steel; manufactures thereof.43,79150989,4661971,783,066157
93,521515,712,1591872,387,799100
Total … £8,099,959 8s. 7d.

* Note.—The advances scheme was closed down early in 1921.

China Tea (Duty)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will give the importation of China tea for each of the last 20 years and state, in addition, the revenue derived from it?

The following statement shows the importations of tea, consigned from China (including Hong Kong end Macao), and the quantities retained for home consumption, together with the net amount of duty derived therefrom, in each of the years 1904 to 1923 (inclusive):—

Years.Quantity Imported.Quantity retained for Home Consumption.Duty.
lbs.lbs.£
190428,695,20111,028,320337,932
190515,419,0236,638,506183,315
190613,879,6085,648,523124,521
190719,350,2979,713,939202,532
190822,271,5908,908,699185,742
190917,422,0118,174,797170,473
191018,914,72010,276,044214,232
191124,701,84414,473,208301,665
191220,947,02910,559,163220,112
191316,272,5489,661,793201,430
191421,771,71413,007,329281,131
191536,776,82112,733,032460,844
191619,877,1958,696,972435,633
19178,397,40316,026,358801,368
19181,587,053812,09241,133
191926,755,0174,423,646221,207
192015,928,2823,577,338178,992
19214,646,0744,772,710238,683
192211,009,1346,867,919258,869
1923*25,172,59310,938,344364,899
* As from 1st April, 1923, the figures relate to Great Britain and Northern Ireland only.

Customs And Excise Duties (Notice Of Reductions)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether, in order to avoid lose and inconvenience to British traders holding stocks upon which duty or excise at existing rates has been paid, he will give an assurance that during the present Government a reasonable notice will be allowed of an application of any reduction in excise or import duty that may be made on any article, without which notice foreign manufacturers of such dutiable or excisable goods would secure an unfair advantage?

Unemployment

Necessitous Areas (Loans)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what are the terms of reference of the committee presided over by Sir Henry Goschen, which authorises relief upon loan to necessitous areas; what is the amount of the funds at the disposal of the committee; what local authorities have received loans; and upon what terms such loans have been granted?

The Committee presided over by Sir Harry Goschen, K.B.E., was appointed in November, 1921. Under their terms of reference, as extended at various dates, they are to consider applications made by Poor Law authorities in Great Britain for loans out of the Vote for Relief of Unemployment, and in cases where they are satisfied that such authorities are unable to meet claims upon them for relief either from rate moneys or from loans otherwise obtained, or that some immediate relief in the current rate burden is essential, they make recommendations to the Ministry of Health or the Secretary for Scotland with regard to the amount of any loan from the Vote and the conditions to be attached thereto. Loans are to be made at not less than the current market rate of interest for loans of similar currency. The Committee may also consider applications by local authorities for loans to carry out works approved by the Unemployment Grants

Authority.Loans Advanced.
Amount.Rate of Interest.Period of Loan, etc.
GUARDIANS£Per cent.
Barrow-in-Furness Parish120,000510 years; first repayment of principal and first actual payment of interest postponed until about 3 years after advance.
45,000
Bedwellty Union110,0007 years; first repayment of principal postponed until 2 years after advance.
20,0005
90,000
Crickhowell Union5,0005 years; first repayment of principal postponed until approximately 2 years after advance.
5,0005
3,000
Neath Union25,0005 years.
Poplar Borough Parish95,0006Repayable at various periods up to 31st March, 1925.
155,800
165,7505
89,950
Redruth Union20,00057 years; first repayment of principal postponed until 2½ years, and first actual payment of interest until 1 year after advance.
Sheffield Union98,00010 years; first repayment of principal and first actual payment of interest postponed until 3 years after advance.
West Ham Union300,00065 years; first repayment of principal postponed for periods up to 18 months after advance.
200,0005
200,000
300,0007 years; first repayment of principal postponed for 2½ years after advance.
LOCAL AUTHORITIES.
(1) For Relief Works.
Clutton Rural District Council.10,000610 years; to be repaid by annuity calculated over a 20-year period, with outstanding balance at end of 10 years.
Vaynor and Penderyn Rural District Council.5,5006Do.
Rhondda Urban District Council.24,30010 years.
45,70020 years.
11,04830 years.
Walsall Rural District Council.3,20018 years.
(2) For Current Expenses,
Nantyglo and Blaina Urban District Council.5,0007 years; first repayment of principal postponed until 3 years after advance.

Committee and applications by local authorities for loans for the purpose of providing temporarily for current expenses which owing to causes arising out of unemployment they are unable to meet out of current income.

The current year's provision for this service in the Relief of Unemployment Vote is £1,803,400. The following statement shows the loans issued since the appointment of the Committee and the terms upon which they have been granted. Various repayments of principal have been made in respect of the loans:—

Authority.Loans Advanced.
Amount.Rate of Interest.Period of Loan, etc.
PARISH COUNCILS IN SCOTLAND.£Per cent.
Bonhill Parish Council20,00010 years by annual instalments.
Dumbarton Parish Council9,00010 years by annual instalments.
Govan Parish Council300,00010 years by annual instalments.
Greenock Parish Council47,00010 years by annual instalments.
Old Kilpatrick Parish Council123,50010 years by annual instalments.
Old Monkland Parish Council37,0005 years; first repayment of principal and first actual payment of interest postponed until 3 years after advance.
40,000510 years; first repayment of principal and first actual payment of interest postponed until 3 years after advance.
35,000

Outer Hebrides.

Barra Parish Council85015 years; first repayment of principal and first actual payment of interest postponed until about 3 years after advance.
Barvas Parish Council3,200
Harris Parish Council960
Lochs Parish Council1,600
South Uist Parish Council2,550
Uig Parish Council2,250

Uncovenanted Benefit (Aliens)

asked the Minister of Labour whether a record has been kept by the local employment committees of the number of aliens who have been refused uncovenanted benefit under the Orders issued by the right hon. Gentleman the Member for North-West Camberwell (Dr. Macnamara) and Sir Montague Barlow; and, if so, what are the total numbers?

Returns of the number of aliens in whose cases the local employment committees recommend refusal of uncovenanted benefit have been kept since May, 1923, the date at which the late Government made aliens resident in this country since 1st January, 1911, eligible for such benefit. The number of refusals between May, 1923, and January, 1924, was 261.

Poor Law Relief

asked the Minister of Health the names of those boards of guardians mentioned in paragraph 9 of the recent official statement of the Statutory Provisions and Administrative Orders for Public Assistance (1924, Cmd. 201) as having refused to give out-door relief to able-bodied persons at all, even during the worst periods of industrial depression?

The Report quoted in the paragraph to which my hon. Friend refers is the Annual Report of my Department for the year 1921–1922, and my right hon. Friend is sending him a list of unions in which, according to the reports received, no out-door relief was being given to unemployed persons and their dependants at the beginning of 1922.

Aliens

asked the Home Secretary whether he intends to continue the policy of the late Government of excluding all aliens from this country whose presence might increase unemployment?

I would refer to my answer to an exactly similar question by the hon. Member for Wood Green (Mr. G. Locker-Lampson) last Thursday. There has been no change of policy.

Agriculture

Hops

asked the Minister of Agriculture how many cwts. of 1923 English hops have been allotted to brewers; and how many out of this allotment can be supplied?

I am consulting with the Hop Controller on the subject, and will communicate with the hon. Member.

asked the Minister of Agriculture how many cwts. of English hops of the 1923 growth were destroyed by the Hop Controller owing to his refusal to allow their being picked; what was the value of these hops; and how many hop pickers consequently lost their employment?

I regret that I have no information which would indicate the quantity or value of the hops which were not allowed to be picked last year, but I would remind the hon. Member that the restriction of production was ordered in the interests of the hop industry as a whole. It is impossible to determine what effect the restriction of hop production had on the numbers of pickers employed.

Foot-And-Mouth Disease

asked the Minister of Agriculture whether he will consider the desirability of reconsidering the valuations signed by farmers whose stock suffered from foot-and-mouth disease in the earlier days of the present outbreak; whether he is aware that many farmers signed their valuations in the belief that their animals would be at once slaughtered and that they would not have to feed and keep them, in some cases for weeks; and Whether the expenses incurred by farmers between signing the valuations and the date of slaughter will be refunded?

The Ministry is not empowered to pay as compensation for animals slaughtered any sum in excess of the value of the animal at the date of slaughter, diseased animals being for this purpose valued as free from disease. I am not prepared to re-open valuations duly made in these cases, but where there has been a substantial interval between the valuation and slaughter, the Ministry will fee prepared to consider any representations as to an increase in the value of the animal during such interval which is attributable to the expenditure referred to in the hon. Member's question.

Small Holdings

asked the Minister of Agriculture whether the Ministry can expedite the publication of their Report on the administration of the Land Settlement Act, 1919, down to the end of 1923; and, if so, when it may be expected and also the Report of the administration of the Small Holdings Colonies Acts?

The publication of the Ministry's Report on Land Settlement will be expedited as much as possible, but as it will be based to a large extent on statistics, some of which have still to be collected from the local authorities concerned, I am afraid that the actual date of publication of the Report cannot be stated at present. The Report on proceedings under the Small Holding Colonies Acts is now in preparation and will, it is hoped, be ready for publication within two or three months.

asked the Minister of Agriculture what steps he proposes to take to authorise and assist the resumption of operations under the Small Holdings Act, 1908; and whether he can state the numbers in each county of approved applicants at the time of its suspension?

The inference which might be drawn from the first part of the hon. Member's question, that no small holdings are at present being provided, would be incorrect. Small holdings are still being provided under the Small Holdings and Allotments Act, 1908, and the Land Settlement (Facilities) Act, 1919, but since 31st July, 1920, the Ministry has, in the interests of economy, laid down certain rules limiting the maximum capital cost and annual loss in the case of holdings provided on land acquired since that date. As a result of these restrictions, the acquisition of additional land for the provision of holdings has practically ceased, and at the present rate of progress a considerable time will elapse before it is possible to provide for all the approved applicants. I am, however, carefully considering whether it is possible to relax these conditions. A statement of the number of approved applicants at the date when the above restrictions were imposed would prove misleading, as since that date nearly 14,000 men have been settled, the majority on land acquired before July, 1920, while others have withdrawn their applications. The following statement shows the latest statistics available as regards the approved applicants out standing demand in each county of England and Wales:—

STATEMENT showing the number of applicants for small holdings in each County in England and Wales (and in the County Boroughs) who have been approved after interview and who are not yet provided with holdings.
POSITION AS AT 16TH JANUARY, 1924.
County.Number of Applicants approved after interview and yet not provided with Holdings.
Ex-Service men who applied before 1st December, 1920.Ex-Service men who applied after 1st December, 1920.Civilians.Total.
England.
Bedfordshire225696921
Berkshire38112675
Bucks121118140
Cambridge38745
Cheshire7171
Cornwall1322450206
Cumberland30201363
Derbyshire4124487
Devon581099167
Dorset1164255213
Durham14389232
Essex43034
Gloucester29316180489
Hants15232058
Hereford249740
Hertford591675
Hunts99
Isle of Ely2622224308
Isle of Wight5914
Kent40201070
Lancashire1034721171
Leicester9936135
Lincs (Holland)5293106251
Lincs (Kesteven)127587
Lincs (Lindsey)185472
London
Middlesex83518106
Norfolk5403056361,481
Northants5767124
Northumberland461020
Notts754571191
Oxford66364133
Rutland123924
Salop4444
Soke of Peterborough8989
Somerset275425700
Staffs8989
Suffolk, East28312180
Suffolk, West174360
Surrey392769135
Sussex, East19181350
Sussex, West1517
Warwick255108363
Westmorland35614
Wilts485244144
Worcester55
Yorks, E.R.2215946
Yorks, N.R.3131
Yorks, W.R.31712117446
County Boroughs394174105673
Total England4,3441,0953,6499,088
County.Number of Applicants approved after interview and yet not provided with Holdings.
Ex-Service men who applied before 1st December, 1920.Ex-Service men who applied after 1st December, 1920.Civilians.Total.
Wales and Monmouth.
Anglesey40848
Brecon44232794
Cardigan11
Carmarthen393271
Carnarvon251035
Denbighshire9138147
Flint618104128
Glamorgan6822292
Merioneth3304679
Monmouth27101754
Montgomery114298151
Pembroke1116597273
Radnor10376179
County Boroughs11
Total Wales and Monmouth.4482296761,353
Total England and Wales.4,7921,3244,32510,441
NOTE.—Any Ex-Service Men who desired to avail themselves of the preference given to such men over Civilians under the Land Settlement Scheme were required to send in their applications before the 1st December, 1920.

Grey Seals Protection Act

asked the Minister of Agriculture whether his attention has been called to the fact that the killing of white seals within the close season was again prevalent on various parts of the coast during the past year; and will he take steps by adequate public advertisement in places on the mainland adjoining the breeding places to bring to the notice of the inhabitants that the provisions of the Grey Seals Protection Act, 1914, have been extended by the Expiring Laws Continuation Act, 1923?

I have received no such information as is referred to in the first part of this question. The protection given to the grey seal by the Grey Seals Protection Act, 1914, was widely advertised by a notice, issued to fishermen both by my Department and by the Fishery Board for Scotland in the autumn of 1921. This notice was also circulated by the Home Office to all Chief Constables concerned. I am sending the hon. Member a copy and shall be glad to reissue it in any district in which he considers the local population is unaware of the continued protection given to the grey seal by the Act of 1914.

Wild Birds Protection Bill

asked the Minister of Agriculture if it is intended at an early date to proceed in this House with the Wild Birds Protection Bill which passed the House of Lords last autumn, with a view to affording greater preservation to the lapwing?

I am in entire sympathy with the suggested Measure, but I am afraid there will be great difficulty in finding Parliamentary time for the Bill this Session, unless the Government can be assured of a substantial measure of agreement.