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Written Answers

Volume 172: debated on Wednesday 16 April 1924

Written Answers to Questions

Wednesday, April 16, 1924

Questions

Pensioner Clerks and Timekeepers, Royal Dockyards

asked the Civil Lord of the Admiralty whether he will agree to representatives of pensioner clerks and timekeepers employed in His Majesty's dockyards giving evidence with regard to wages and working conditions before the Southborough Committee?

A request by these classes to be allowed to give evidence before the Southborough Committee would be one that should, I suggest, be addressed to the Committee itself. It would appear, however, to be unlikely that such evidence would be pertinent to the Committee's terms of reference.

Cookery Branch (Promotion)

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Admiralty whether, in view of the stagnation of promotion on the one hand and the shortage of staff on the other in the cookery branch of the Royal Navy, he can say what steps have been taken, in the first place, to advance promotion and, in the second, to advance recruitment?

Volunteer Reserve Instructors

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Admiralty whether the Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve instructors shown on Vote 7 can be removed from the advancement rosters from the moment they are appointed to Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve divisions for instructional purposes, in order that they may not prejudice promotion whilst they still remain on the active-service personnel?

Petty officers are removed from the advancement rosters on appointment as instructors to the Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve.

Battle Clasps

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Admiralty if battle clasps will be issued to those entitled to them at their own expense?

I would refer the hon. Member to my reply of to-day to the Noble Lord, the Member for South Battersea (Viscount Curzon).

Officers' Pay (Reduction)

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Admiralty whether the proposed reduction of 5½ per cent, in the pay of naval officers is to be made on the 20 per cent, increase granted in respect of the cost of living or on the whole pay or pension; and whether, seeing that, in view of the Admiralty's statement that the 20 per cent, increase was granted subject, after five years, to alteration according to how the cost of living should rise or fall, there would be an element of non-compliance with the undertakings given in taking 5½ per cent, from the whole pay or pension, he will reconsider this?

I regret that in making a last minute alteration in order to shorten my reply of last Wednesday to the Noble Lord, the Member for South Battersea (Viscount Curzon), I overlooked the fact that the words "total increase" and not "total pay" were used in the question, and in this particular my answer was incorrect. As I stated during the recent Debate on the Navy Estimates, the reduction of 5½ per cent, will apply to the whole of the pay or retired pay of naval officers. As regards the second part of the question, 20 per cent, of the rates of pay and retired pay granted in 1919 were stated to be due to the high cost of living, and if the hon. and gallant Member will compare the index figures, showing the excess over pre-War prices in July, 1919, and now, he will find that there has been a fall of approximately 27½ per cent. It is immaterial whether the reduction to be made in July next is described as a reduction of 27½ per cent, of 20 per cent, of the pay, or 5½ per cent, of the whole of the pay. With this explanation I trust that the hon. and gallant Member will realise that there is in the decision of His Majesty's Government no element of non-compliance with undertakings given in 1919 when the present rates of pay and retired pay were settled.

Marriage Allowance (Officers)

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Admiralty if he can make a statement on marriage allowance for the officers of the Navy?

This matter is now under consideration, but I am unable to say how soon it will be possible to make any announcement on the subject.

Sick-Berth Attendants

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Admiralty whether he is aware that, owing to the stagnation in promotion in the sick-berth branch of the Royal Navy, a large number of sick-berth attendants will never be able to obtain the long service and good conduct medals, although they may have been assessed as very good throughout the whole of their naval service; and whether, seeing the King's Regulations and Admiralty instructions are now under revision, the Admiralty can see their way clear to make the necessary amendment in the new volumes, so that this rating may become eligible?

In order to qualify for an award of the medal on completion of 15 years' service, a man requires the first recommendation in the 12th year of his service, and this recommendation is permissible in the rating next above sick-berth attendant ( i.e., leading sick-berth attendant), and previous service as sick-berth attendant, with continuous V. G. character, counts towards service quali- fying for the medal. The records show that the average length of service before leading rating is attained is about eight years, and it is, therefore, considered that no reason exists for the amendment of the existing Regulations.

Prize Fund

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Admiralty whether, as regards grants allocated from the surplus of the. Naval Prize Fund, the claims of the Mercantile Marine Masters' and Officers' Relief Fund have been considered; if not, for what reasons; and whether, in any future allocation of sums of money at the disposal of the Admiralty, he will ensure that this fund, and others doing similar work in connection with representative organisations, will not be excluded?

The claims of the Mercantile Marine Masters' and Officers' Relief Fund were considered when the recent grants from the surplus of the Naval Prize Fund were made, and the claims of this fund and others doing similar work will be taken into account in the event of it being found possible to make a further distribution.

Navy Estimates

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Admiralty whether, in view of the expression of hope by the Treasury that the Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty will, in framing their Estimates for 1924–25, take a much more conservative view of their requirements, he will state more explicitly the aspects of such Estimate in respect of which this advice is tendered?

As explained on page 3 of the Statement of the First Lord of the Admiralty, dated the 10th March, 1924 (Cmd. 2071), explanatory of the Navy Estimates for 1924–25, the under- spendings of previous years have been due chiefly to the progress on contract work of various descriptions proving slower than was anticipated in the original Estimates. With a view to discounting the effect of the causes to which the delay is attributed, a reduction has been made in the Estimates for 1924–25 under the contract Votes principally affected, namely, Votes 8 (Section III), 9 and 10.

Woolwich Arsenal (Discharges)

asked the Financial Secretary to the War Office whether he will cancel the dismissal of Mr. H. W. Allen, senior grouper, tailor factories, from Woolwich Arsenal, who has served nearly 47 years, and who throughout that period was only twice absent through sickness, the last occasion being 24 years ago?

Mr. H. W. Allen was discharged on reaching the age of 65 years, which is the age limit laid down for compulsory retirement in the Rules and Regulations for the Ordnance Factories, under which he was serving. In these circumstances, I regret that I am unable to make any exception to the general rule in Mr. Allen's case.

asked the Financial Secretary to the War Office whether he will reinstate at Woolwich Arsenal Mr. L. W. Hancock, where he has been employed over 50 years, 20 of which have been served in a supervisory position as assistant foreman?

Mr. L. W. Hancock was discharged on reaching the age of 65 years, which is the age limit laid down for compulsory retirement in the Rules and Regulations for the ordnance factories, under which he was serving. I regret that I am unable to make any exception to the general rule in this case.

asked the Financial Secretary to the War Office whether he will cancel the discharge from Woolwich Arsenal of Mr. William Gear (War Department Laundry), who has served there for 22 years, having previously served for 13 years in His Majesty's forces, and who, during his service at the Arsenal, was never absent from work for any cause?

As I have already informed the hon. Member, Mr. Gear was discharged on attaining the age of 00 years. Under the Regulations for civilian employçs, under which Mr. Gear was serving, an employç can, at the discretion of the officer in charge of the establishment in which he is employed, be called upon to retire on attaining the age of 60 years. In view of the large number of discharges of younger persons which it has been necessary to make owing to the reduction of work at War Department establishments at Woolwich and elsewhere, I regret that I am unable to cancel the discharge of Mr. Gear.

Small Arms Factory, Enfield Lock (Mr. W. H. Briden)

asked the Secretary of State for War, seeing that the writers class at the Royal Small Arms Factory, Enfield Lock, were placed on the establishment list last year after passing a qualifying medical test, and in view of the fact that W. H. Briden, who has been employed as a writer at the factory since 1889, failed to pass the necessary medical test, and consequently was not placed on the establishment, will he, considering his long period of service and his age of 53 years, take steps to waive the medical test and to accord him all the rights and privileges attaching to establishment?

I wrote to my hon. Friend on the 26th February last, explaining the circumstances of this case. The position is that, under the Order in Council of 22nd July, 1920, and the General Regulations made there under, appointments to established rank cannot be made until a certificate of qualification has been granted by the Civil Service Commissioners. In the case of Mr. Briden, the Civil Service Commissioners, after considering the report of their medical examiners, have been unable to issue a certificate of qualification. The discretion of the Civil Service Commissioners is final and absolute, and I have no power to require them to waive the medical test. In the absence of this certificate, the Treasury would have no legal power under the Superannuation Acts to award Mr. Briden a pension.

Attack on British Soldiers (Queenstown)

asked the Secretary of State for War whether he can give the House any information regarding the progress of the 18 British soldiers who were wounded during the recent outrage at Queenstown and say whether any of these men are likely to suffer permanent dsablement or injury as a result of their wounds?

As regards the first part of the question, I would refer the hon. and gallant Member to the reply which I gave yesterday to the noble Lord the Member for the Fylde division of Lancashire (Lord Stanley). The answer to the second part is, I regret to say, in the affirmative, so far at any rate as concerns those men who have suffered amputations, but I am not yet in a position to say how far the injuries of other men will be permanent.

asked the Secretary of State for War whether, in the case of Gunner Pragnell, who was dangerously wounded in the recent Queenstown outrage and is now in Netley Hospital, he will favourably consider the issue of free railway passes to Pragnell's parents who desire to visit their son but who cannot afford to do so?

A free railway pass to enable the parents of Gunner Pragnell to visit him in the Royal Victoria Hospital, Netley, has been sent to them.

Employment

asked (1), the Secretary of State for War at how many meetings of the inter-Departmental Committee to consider the resettlement of ex-service men his Department has been represented since 1921, and when a Report of progress may be expected for the information of the House;

(2) the Parliamentary Secretary to the Admiralty, the number of times the inter-Departmental Committee appointed in 1921 to consider the resettlement of ex-service men has met; and if he is now in a position to report the progress made, if any, for the information of the House;

(3) the Minister of Labour, if his Department has been called to the assistance of the Committee considering the resettlement of ex-service men since 1921; and, if so, will he inform the House of any practical suggestions that have emanated from his Department that are now operative?

I assume that the reference is to the inter-Departmental Committee appointed to consider the employment of time-expired ex-service men. This has met formally on five occasions. A representative of the Ministry of Labour attended a meeting of a War Office Committee which was considering the same subject in February, 1921. Since that time no representative of the Ministry of Labour has attended the meetings of the inter-Departmental Committee, but the Committee has had the advice of that Department throughout its deliberations, and the scheme which it has had under consideration will not be recommended for adoption without the prior sanction of the Ministry. I cannot at present indicate when a Report will be signed.

Mental Cases, Naval Hospital, Great Yarmouth

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Admiralty if he will state the Regulations governing the detention and subsistence of mental cases in the Naval Mental Hospital, Great Yarmouth; what appeal, if any, exists as to the question of attributability; in the case of a man entitled to a pension how much for subsistence is deducted there from when the disability is attributable to service and when the disability is not attributable to service; and how such deductions compare with the charges made by civil mental hospitals?

The information desired is being obtained, and I will circulate the reply in the OFFICIAL REPORT as soon as possible.

Highland Light Infantry (Captain J. Drawbell)

asked the Secretary of State for War whether he is aware that Captain J. Drawbell, lately in the Highland Light Infantry, was before a medical board at Westminster on the 11th December, 1922, when he was found by that board, consisting of three medical officers, as suffering from diabetes attributable to war service and in consequence was placed on half-pay on 17th January, and was retired on 3rd February, 1923; that after the medical board had certified this officer as suffering from illness attributable to service the medical history sheet was altered, without the knowledge of two members of the board, so as to indicate that the officer was not suffering from illness attributable to service, and that as a consequence the officer lost his war service pension; whether he has taken any and what steps to punish the person responsible for making the alteration; and whether he will take steps to have Captain Drawbell re-examined by an in-dependant medical board?

In answer to my hon. Friend I am advised that the finding of the Board as orginally recorded, namely, that the disease was aggravated by, though not attributable to, war service, was not justified by the evidence before the Board, but I am making inquiries as to the alleged irregularity in procedure and I will communicate further with my hon. Friend.

Invalided Naval Ratings

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Admiralty what course is open to an invalided naval rating whose invaliding disability is attributable to service and who is not satisfied with the degree of disability assessed by the naval medical board?

It is open to an invalided rating to appeal to the Board of Admiralty, under whose directions the case would be reviewed in the light of any representations made on his behalf.

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Admiralty whether it is the practice to make a reduction in the pensions of men invalided for non-attributable disabilities associated with specific disease; whether any scale of deductions exist; whether any disease other than venereal is included in the practice; and whether naval ratings generally are aware that such a practice exists, and under what legal sanction?

The reply to the first part of the question is in the affirmative. The deduction made is considered on the merits of each case. A disease such as alcoholism would be included in the practice. The practice is sanctioned by the terms of Order in Council of the 6th February, 1922 (Statutory Rules and Orders, 1922, No. 132). These Regulations have been published in Fleet Orders.

Mr. W. a. Smith, Portsmouth

asked the Minister of Pensions why payment of arrears of pension for the long-service and good-conduct medal is withheld from Mr. W. A. Smith, of 4, Elm Road, Portsmouth, observing that the man was in possession of the good-conduct medal when invalided and under the Regulations was eligible for the award of 2d. per day on his service pension, and that he was not responsible for the error in assessment?

I am looking into the facts of this case, and will communicate with my hon. and gallant Friend as soon as possible.

Disability Pensions

asked the Minister of Pensions whether, having regard to the fact that independent medical testimony shows that the neurasthenia from which W. J. Palmer, No. 2,444, late private Royal Defence Corps, suffers, is the result of service in the Great War, and that the continuance of his complaint renders him incapable of continued regular work as an employé of the Hackney Borough Council, he will reconsider the whole case with a view to granting an adequate pension?

I am having inquiries made regarding this case, and will communicate with the hon. Member as soon as possible.

Pre-War Pensions

asked the Minister of Pensions if it is his intention to include in the Bill to be introduced dealing with the claims of pre-War pensioners any revision of the pensions granted to those who retired after March, 1922?

I regret that I cannot undertake to announce the proposals of the Government before the introduction of the Bill.

Aircraft Establishment, Farnborough (Wages)

asked the Under-Secretary of State for Air whether it is his policy to refuse to have any nego- tiation with the British Legion concerning wages and conditions of ex-service men in the Royal Aircraft Establishment?

I would refer the Noble Lord to the reply given to a similar question put to me on the 20th March, to which I have nothing to add.

asked the Undersecretary of State for Air whether, seeing that the Cove Branch of the British Legion have requested him to receive a deputation to discuss wages questions for the industrial employés of the Royal Aircraft Establishment, Farnborough, and that he has refused to receive a deputation on the ground that representations should be made through the Whitley Council, he will, in view of paragraph 25 of the Constitution of the Royal Aircraft Establishment Works Committee, which precludes questions of wages being raised by the Whitley Council, reconsider his decision?

I regret that I am unable to reconsider the decision contained in my reply of 20th March to the Noble Lord. The appropriate Whitley Council for the discussion of wages questions affecting the employés of the Royal Aircraft Establishment, Farnborough, is the Engineering Trade Joint Council for Government Departments.

Accidents

asked the Undersecretary of State for Air whether his attention has been directed to the relatively increasing number of aeroplane accidents in the Royal Air Force during the past year; whether he is aware that the number of accidents to aeroplanes engaged in civil aviation over that period for miles flown is much smaller than those which have occurred in the Royal Air Force during a similar period; whether the Ministry has had under consideration for the purposes of report the cause of accidents to aeroplanes engaged both in the Royal Air Force and in civil aviation; whether he is awaref that investigation tends to show that an appreciable and greater number of accidents in the Royal Air Force have occurred through the inexperience of their pilots contrasted with those employed in civil aviation; and that this has been proved by the faulty running of the Royal Air Force engines, and what was the number of accidents, lives lost and men injured in the Royal Air Force during the year ending 31st March last?

As regards the first part of the question, it is not the case that the number of aeroplane accidents in the Royal Air Force has been relatively increasing during the past year. On the contrary, the number of fatal or serious accidents has largely decreased relatively to the number of hours flown.

As regards the second part of the question, it is not possible to institute a comparison between Royal Air Force and civil flying on a basis of miles flown, the basis on which flying is computed in the Royal Air Force being one of hours and not of miles. A comparison on the basis of miles flown would in any case be quite misleading, since accidents are much less likely to occur as the result of the comparatively small number of long and straight flights carried out for the purposes of commercial transport than as the result of the very large number of shorter flights carried out by service aviators in training or manœuvres.

As regards the third part of the question, every serious flying accident and all accidents of which the causes are in any way obscure, whether happening to Royal Air Force or civil aircraft, are investigated by the Accidents Investigation Branch, which directs special attention to ascertaining the causes and makes a report on which action is taken to prevent the recurrence of accidents from the same causes in future. In the case of Royal Air Force flying accidents, a Service Court of Inquiry is held in addition.

As regards the fourth part of the question, I am not aware on what evidence the statement made is based, but it is obvious that when inexperienced pilots are being taught to fly the risk of accident is greater than when experienced pilots are flying standard machines on commercial flights over well-known routes. Practically every pilot employed in civil aviation at present was trained by Service aviation.

As regards the fifth part of the question, the engines of Royal Air Force aeroplanes are subject to continual overhauls and tests by experienced mechanics under the supervision of technical officers, and only a very small proportion of the accidents which have occurred have been found to be due to engine failure.

As regards the sixth part of the question, the number of serious flying accidents in the Royal Air Force during the year ending 31st March, 1924, was 87, resulting in 55 deaths and injuries to 87 officers and airmen.

War Office (Publicity Officers)

asked the Secretary of State for War whether the two Press officers retained in his Department are members of the National Union of Journalists; whether he is aware that one of them had no previous experience of Press work before coming to the War Office; and whether he will consider the replacement of these officers by suitably qualified members of the National Union of Journalists?

I have no information as to the first part of the question, and the statement contained in the second part is inaccurate. As regards the last part, I would refer the hon. Member to the reply which I gave on the 29th February to the hon. and gallant Member for East Fulham (Colonel Vaughan-Morgan).

Admiralty

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Admiralty whether the date for the Admiralty departmental examination has yet been fixed; and, if so, can it be announced, observing that the Treasury proposals were promulgated early in 1923, and that the application forms were to be forwarded to reach the Admiralty not later than the 22nd March, 1924?

The date of the examination has been fixed by the Civil Service Commissioners for the 3rd July next, and this will be published in Fleet Orders this week.

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Admiralty the number of officials on the staff of the Admiralty on 1st January, 1914, and the number on 1st January, 1924?

The figures for the Admiralty staff, excluding naval officers, messengers and charwomen, are

1st, January, 1914.

1,556

1st January. 1914

2,876

1st April, 1924

2,729

1st January, 1914.

1st January, 1924.

1st April, 1924.

Civilian Staff (as above).

1,556

2,876

2,729

Naval Officers

152

259

263

Messengers and Charwomen.

354

444

438

2,062

3,579

3,430

Air Ministry

asked the Under-Secretary of State for Air whether he is aware that, owing to the action of the permanent members of the staff side of the Departmental Whitley Council, the temporary staff in the Department is not represented on the Council, and, as a result of this action, the temporary staff are practically disenfranchised for Whitley Council purposes; and, if the official side is not prepared to insist on the inclusion of the representatives of the temporary staff, whether he will set up separate machinery by which the temporary staff may raise matters concerning their terms of service, etc.?

In answer to the first part of the question, it is unfortunately true that a portion of the temporary staff is not at present represented upon the Departmental Whitley Council, owing to its being organised in an association which excludes certain members of the grades which it purports to represent. As regards the second part of the question, the matter is one primarily for the staff side to settle, and I understand that it is now in a fair way to be adjusted; the suggestion for separate machinery has been considered and could not be agreed to.

asked the Under-Secretary of State for Air whether he is aware that many temporary officers in his Department are compelled to accept liability for flying duties without any extra pay or emoluments; and whether, in view of the fact that flying risk necessitates a large addition to insurance premiums, he will undertake to investigate the position with a view to granting special allowances in every case where an officer is liable to undertake flying duties?

As regards the first part of the question, I am aware that the duties of the officials of the Research and Inspection Departments necessitate their going into the air, but this liability was taken into account when their emoluments were fixed and is expressly mentioned in their contract of service as entitling them to no additional allowance. As regards the second part of the question, I cannot undertake to grant a special allowance for a liability which is thus part of the contract of service, and which, moreover, is already covered to the extent that compensation is granted under the Superannuation Act, 1887, in the event of death or injury from a flying accident on duty.

Janina Murders

asked the Under-Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs on what grounds Lord Crewe was instructed to agree to the decision of the Ambassadors' Conference with regard to the Janina murders; why the question of the payment to Italy of the 50,000,000 lire deposited by the Greek Government in the Swiss National Bank was not referred to the Court of International Justice; and if he is now prepared to publish the text of the Commission's Report presented on the 22nd September last?

I must refer the hon. Member to the answer returned to a similar question of his on 20th February last, and point out that, although the Report of the Commission was communicated at the time to the Council of the League of Nations for their information, it remains, like all the records of the Ambassadors' Conference, a confidential document, the publication of which, without the consent of all the parties concerned, would be both contrary to practice and to the public interest.

German Reparation

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether Germany has made any payments to Montenegro on account of reparations; and, in that case, who has received the money, and how it has been spent?

Montenegro is a part of the Serb-Croat-Slovene Kingdom, and not being a separate signatory of the Treaty of Versailles, is not entitled to any separate payment from Germany on reparation account.

asked the President of the Board of Trade how many Orders have been made by the Board of Trade under the German Reparation Recovery Act which are still in operation, with the date of each Order?

I am sending the hon. Member copies of the 14 Orders which are still in operation.

asked the Prime Minister whether, in respect of the external loan of £40.000,000 to Germany, which the Expert Committee recommended should be subscribed, the Government will ensure that British support shall be given only on condition of the military and economic evacuation by the French?

"the fiscal and economic unity of Germany will be restored,"

and that

"economic activity will be unhampered and unaffected by any foreign organisation other than the controls provided in their Report."

The Committee expressly stated that their recommendations were to be regarded as an indivisible whole. I have already stated that His Majesty's Government are prepared to support the scheme in its entirety, provided that all the other parties are willing to take the same course, and I do not think I can usefully add anything further at the present stage or enter into a discussion of details.

Wei-Hai-Wei

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether the deadlock in the negotiations over the retrocession of Wei-hai-Wei to China u due to the claim by this country for the use by British warships of the waters of and certain land in the bay each summer; and what is the point of view taken up by the Chinese Government on this matter?

According to the draft agreement negotiated by a British and a Chinese Commission last year, British warships visiting the bay of Wei-hai-Wei between April and October are to have the use, after the Chinese Navy, of a certain part of the anchorage and the British Navy is to have the loan for ten years, free of charge, of certain land and buildings for the purpose of a sanatorium, with the option of renewal on the same terms by the British Government until both Government's agree that, the loan shall terminate. An objection to this option clause was one of the pretexts advanced last October by the Chinese Government in justification of their desire to make fundamental changes in the agreement reached after protracted discussion with their representatives.

Anglo-Japanese Commercial Treaty

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what is the

Unmanufactured Tobacco.

Manufactured Tobacco.

Lbs.

£

Lbs

£

1920

177,507,622

27,564,299

1,648,083

387,032

1921

214,756,664

20,789,839

390,483

69,786

1922

166,822,333

15,863,369

593,799

82,312

1923

155,434,263

13,643,778

617,361

81,113

From 1st April, 1923, the particulars are exclusive of direct imports, if any, into the Irish Free State.

Iron and Steel Trades

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether any of the recommendations contained in pages 45 to 47 of the Report of the Departmental Committee on the position of the iron and steel trades after the War, published in 1918, have been adopted; and what results, if any, have been derived from their adoption?

The Committee made 61 recommendations, many of which raised

present position with regard to the conventional tariff on the importation of British goods into Japan, as regulated by Article 8 of the Anglo-Japanese Commercial Treaty, 1911?

The Japanese Government have given notice that they wish to abrogate Article 8 of the Anglo-Japanese Commercial Treaty, 1911, together with the Schedule annexed to the Treaty, and His Majesty's Government have consented to arrive at an understanding with the Japanese Government that the Article and the Schedule will cease to operate on 10th March, 1925. This understanding will in due course be embodied in an exchange of Notes.

American Tobacco (Imports)

asked the President of the Board of Trade the annual value and weight of tobacco imported into this country from the United States of America during the years 1920, 1921, 1922 and 1923?

The following statement shows the quantity and value of tobacco (unmanufactured and manufactured) imported into the United Kingdom and registered as consigned from the United States during the years specified:

large questions of Government policy, whilst others were entirely for the consideration of the trade itself. If the hon. Member will specify the recommendations in which he is particularly interested, I will see what information can be furnished.

Munitions (Exports)

asked the President of the Board of Trade the value of arms, ammunition and military and naval stores exported from the United Kingdom in the year 1913, with the corresponding figures for each year 1919 to 1923, with the proportion exported to foreign countries and to British possessions, together with the approximate total quantities of high explosives, machine guns, rifles, loaded cartridges, swords and bayonets exported during the years 1919 to 1923, with the principal destinations of these articles?

My hon. Friend will find the particulars for each of the years 1913, and 1919 to 1922, inclusive, on pages 567–587 of the Annual Statement of the Trade of the United Kingdom, Volume III. Corresponding particulars for the year 1923 are not yet available.

Imports and Exports

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he will give a table showing approximately the percentage of increase or decrease in the volume, based on 1913 prices, of the following exports and imports in 1922, 1923, and the first

Volume of Trade on the basis 1913=100.

1922.

1923.

January to March, 1924.

Imports less Re-exports—

Food, drink and tobacco

99·1

114·6

131·2

Raw materials and articles mainly unmanufactured.

79·4

79·1

73·9

Articles wholly or mainly manufactured.

74·6

90·5

92·2

All Articles

86·5

97·3

100·6

British Exports—

Food, drink and tobacco Raw materials and articles mainly unmanufactured—

52·7

68·9

108·9

Coal

85·3

105·4

88·6

Other

125·7

114·1

122·0

Articles wholly or mainly manufactured.

66·5

73·3

74·2

All Articles

68·9

77·0

78·6

NOTE.—From 1st April, 1923, the Accounts include the trade of Great Britain and Northern Ireland with the Irish Free State. From the same date, the direct foreign trade of the Irish Free State has been excluded from the Accounts.

China Tea (Duty)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether his attention has been called to telegrams from China laying stress on the prejudicial effect on Anglo-Chinese trade generally of the existence of the differential duty against China tea; and whether any representations have been made to the British Government on the subject by the Chinese Government?

quarter of 1924, as compared with the corresponding volume for 1913, and taking the 1913 volume in each case as 100, namely: net imports; food and drink, raw materials, manufactures, and total net imports; exports of United Kingdom goods: food and drink, coal, raw materials other than coal, manufactures, and total exports?

, pursuant to his answer [OFFICIAL REPORT, 14th April, 1924; col. 967, Vol. 172], supplied the following figures:

The following table shows the percentage proportions of the values, calculated on the basis of 1913 prices, of the net imports into the United Kingdom and the exports therefrom of produce and manufactures of the United Kingdom in the periods specified:

Representations have been made by the Chinese Legation. They are being considered by the Treasury and Board of Trade.

Enemy Action Claims

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he can state any instance in East Kent where officers of the Reparation Claims Department went down to make personal local inquiries regarding claims lodged with the Royal Commission on Compensation for Suffering and Damage by Enemy Action?

An officer of the Reparation Claims Department stayed at Margate from 31st August till 6th September, 1923, investigating claims in respect of damage to property. He also visited Folkestone for the same purpose on 10th October, 1923. Another officer stayed at Ramsgate from the 27th September till the 29th September, 1923, for the same purpose.

asked the President of the Board of Trade the number of newspapers in which an advertisement has been inserted by the Reparation Claims Department notifying persons having claims for compensation for enemy action that the latest date for the lodging of such claims is the 1st June, 1924; whether any other channels of publicity for this notification are being made use of; whether he will consider the desirability of such a notice being inserted in the small books of stamps issued by His Majesty's Postmaster-General; and whether he will consider the question of displaying notices in all post offices and other Government buildings, and in town halls, in all parts of the country affected by enemy action during the late War?

A paid-for advertisement has been inserted in 18 newspapers and a notice sent to the Official Gazettes, the "Board of Trade Journal," the Press agencies and about 100 newspapers. An announcement is also posted in Mercantile Marine offices, and the seamen's unions are being communicated with. I am considering whether other means of publicity should be employed.

Anglo-German Mixed Arbitral Tribunal

asked the President of the Board of Trade if he has received representations from business interests concerned against the delay and the cost attending the working of the Anglo-German Mixed Arbitral Tribunal; and what steps the Government proposes to take to secure satisfactory working of the existing tribunal?

The answer to the first part of the question is in the affirmative. The matter is receiving the serious attention of the Board of Trade, with a view to expediting the work of the Anglo-German Mixed Arbitral Tribunal.

Electric Carbons, Lighting

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he can give figures showing the quantities of British-made arc-lamp carbons exported to foreign countries during the years 1921, 1922, and 1923, respectively, together with the corresponding values?

The total quantities and values of "Electric Carbons, Lighting," of United Kingdom manufacture, registered as exported to all foreign countries in the years specified, were as follow:

Quantity.

Value.

No.

£

1921

1,474,156.

12,198

1922

1,513,196

8,950

1923

654,649

3,106

asked the President of the Board of Trade the total quantities of arc-lamp carbons imported into this country during the years 1920, 1921, 1922 and 1923, respectively; and whether he has any information as to the output during the corresponding periods from the English factory which was given protection under the key industries schedule in 1921?

The total quantities of "Electric Carbons, Lighting," imported into the United Kingdom in the years specified were as follow:

Year.

No.

1921

7,126,258

1922.

2,941,848

1923.

5,388,397

As from the 1st April, 1923, the particulars are inclusive of the imports, if any, into Great Britain and Northern Ireland from the Irish Free State, and are exclusive of direct imports into the Irish Free State from foreign countries. As regards the last part of the question, I am not in a position to make any statement.

Key Industries (Employment)

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether, in respect of the industries which were given protection under the key industries Schedule of the Safeguarding of Industries Act, 1912, he has taken any steps to ascertain the comparative state of employment in 1923 as compared with the years preceding the duty; and, if so, when he anticipates that he will be able to give the House the benefit of the figures ascertained?

Many of the products specified in the Schedule of the Safeguarding of Industries Act, 1921, are manufactured by concerns engaged in the production of a wider range of commodities, and it is consequently not practicable to give definite information as to the volume of employment affected.

Permanent Magnets

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he is aware that if British manufacturers of toy fish-pond games import toy magnets to use for the same they are charged 33⅓ per cent., whereas foreign competitors can send the same games, including toy magnets, into this country duty free; and whether Le is prepared to take steps to alter this anomaly?

Permanent magnets of any kind are dutiable under Part I of the Safeguarding of Industries Act, 1921, and there is no power under the law to exempt them except when they form a part of small value of an article not otherwise dutiable.

Tax Offices (Interviews)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he is aware that in the offices of inspectors of taxes there are generally no facilities for private interviews with taxpayers other than the inspectors' rooms; and whether, in view of the number of callers who are interviewed on confidential matters by members of the inspector's staff, he will arrange for the provision in every tax office of adequate accommodation by way of interview rooms?

I am aware that the position is frequently as stated in the question. I regret that I cannot contemplate the expense which would be involved by the provision of interview rooms in every tax office, but such rooms are provided in the most important offices where the necessary space can be made available without undue expense.

Teachers' Pensions

asked the President of the Board of Education, in connection with the School Teachers (Superannuation) Bill, 1924, whether, in view of the fact that the recent Departmental Committee under Lord Emmott recommended that the service of teachers of the blind and deaf prior to 1924 should be recognised for pension purposes, and that many of the teachers concerned will be retiring within the period of extension stated in the Bill, namely 1926, he is prepared to make provision for the recognition of this pre-1894 service for superannuation in the cases of the few teachers affected, either in the Bill itself or by administrative regulation?

As I have already said in reply to questions in this House, the position of these teachers will receive full consideration in connection with legislation to amend the School Teachers (Superannuation) Act, 1918; but it is not practicable for me to undertake special legislation in advance of the general Measure.

Training Colleges (.Restriction on Admissions)

asked the President of the Board of Education whether he is now prepared to remove the restriction on admissions to training colleges which was imposed by Circular 1301 in 1923?

After considering the information before me I have decided to discontinue at once the restriction on admissions to training colleges which was imposed by Circular 1301 in 1923. Training college authorities will accordingly be at liberty to accept applicants this year up to their full normal number of admissions, provided the recognised accommodation is in no case exceeded. The colleges will, however, understand that I do not feel able to authorise them to admit additional numbers this year in order to fill up the vacancies caused by last year's restriction on admissions.

Government Cottage, Wash Common, Newbury

asked the Minister of Health whether his attention has been called to the fact that the cottage with ¾-acre of garden at Wash Common, near Newbury, Berkshire, in the occupation of the late William H. Harris, postman, of Newbury, until two years ago, has since then been unoccupied; whether he is aware that the cottage is the property of the Crown; whether he is aware that there is an acute shortage of accommodation in the neighbourhood, so that seven and eight people1 are compelled to occupy a single room, and many of those who are able to pay rent are occupying barns and outbuildings: and whether he will take immediate steps to call upon the Commissioners for Woods and Forests, or the Government Department which can deal with this property, to make the cottage and land available for occupation by selling it or letting it to working-class people?

I have been asked to reply. The cottage in question escheated to the Crown and was transferred to the management of the Commissioners of Woods in February this year. It is reported to be in a bad state of repair and considerable expenditure will be necessary before it can be made fit for habitation. An estimate is being obtained and the work will be put in hand without delay to enable the premises to be occupied as soon as possible.

Argyllshire

asked the Under-Secretary to the Scottish Board of Health if he will have inquiry made as to the exceptional difficulties under which the district committees labour in Argyllshire in the carrying out of housing schemes under the Housing Acts, owing to the large areas of low rateable value under their jurisdiction, the small number of houses already built by them, and the strong demand in the various areas for more houses, with a view to securing an increased building of house's in these districts and a greater participation by their inhabitants in the Government housing schemes?

In view of the fact that the terms upon which State assistance was given to local authorities carrying out housing schemes under the Housing, Town Planning, Etc. (Scotland) Act, 1919, were particularly favourable in districts where the areas were large, the rateable values low and the demand for houses great, and that conditions in the landward areas of Argyllshire are not peculiar, I am not satisfied that an inquiry of the nature suggested would serve a useful purpose.

Unoccupied Dwellings

asked the Minister of Health whether he has any record of the number of houses vacant for sale but not for letting purposes; whether the local authorities concerned possess such information; and whether, in view of the importance to the proper consideration of the housing problem, he will prepare statistics on the subject and lay them before the House?

Statistics are not available showing the number of houses vacant for sale but not for letting. The number of such houses is constantly fluctuating, and I am of opinion that the value of a return, if obtained, would not be commensurate with the labour and expense involved by its compilation.

asked the Minister of Health if he has any information with reference to cases where houses are kept empty for the deliberate purpose of obtaining a high price for the same?

Representations have been received from a number of local authorities calling attention to the fact that unoccupied houses are held for sale at enhanced prices, but detailed statistics on this point are not available.

Evictions (Misrepresentation)

asked the Minister of Health whether he is aware that some landlords are dispossessing tenants on the assertion that they need the houses for personal occupation and then, when the tenants have left, are putting the structures up for sale with vacant possession; and whether, seeing that this is absolutely opposed to the spirit of the law, he will, in the event of such cases being submitted to him, take steps to make such action illegal?

Provision is already made to meet cases of this kind. Under the existing Act the Court can require the landlord to pay compensation to the tenant for loss or damage sustained if possession of a house is obtained by misrepresentation, and to direct that the house in question shall not be decontrolled.

Building Progress

asked the Minister of Health whether he can give the usual monthly statement of progress under the Housing Act of 1923?

The following statement gives the information desired by the Noble Lord:

Housing, with State Assistance.

Statement showing the position of housing schemes under the Housing, etc., Act, 1923, on the under-mentioned dates:

Foundations completed.

Roofed in.

Total under construction.

Completed.

Schemes of Local Authorities

5,907

4,276

10,183

3,847

Private Enterprise

12,982

7,240

20,222

4,293

Total houses (included in Table II)

18,889

11,516

30,405

8,140

NOTE.—Tables II and 111. For 36 Local Authorities, from whom Returns for the 1st April, 1924, have not yet been received, the numbers included above are taken from the previous months' Returns.

Poor Law Cottages and Infirmary, Leicester

asked the Minister of Health why he has refused permission to the Leicester Guardians to let a number of vacant cottages and the old infirmary situated in the workhouse grounds, notwithstanding that these have been empty since the close of the War; and whether, in view of the admitted housing shortage, he will reconsider his decision and allow these buildings to be let to deserving tenants?

I am advised that it would be difficult and costly to convert

I.—Houses authorised by the Minister of Health—up to the 9th April, 1924:

To be erected by local authorities.

42,180

To be erected by private enterprise.

81,726

Total

123,906

II.—Houses included in definite arrangements—on or before the 1st April, 1924:

Schemes of local authorities—

Number of houses included in contracts or in approved direct labour schemes

25,586

Private enterprise—

Number of houses included in undertakings given by the local authorities under Section 2 (3)

47,230

Number of houses approved by the Minister under Section 3 and included in contracts

3,575

Total (included in Table I)

76,391

III.—Building progress—at 1st April, 1924:

the buildings mentioned, but I am prepared to consider an application for their transfer to the borough council as the housing authority, if that authority should think it worth while to proceed with the matter.

Building Materials

asked the Minister of Health whether he is aware that in South Yorkshire the cost of bricks has increased during the last few weeks by 10s. per thousand, one increase of 5s. about six weeks ago and another of 5s. last week, and that the cost of lime has also increased by 3s. per ton; and whether he will take steps to prevent these continual increases in the cost of building materials?

I am aware that in certain parts of Yorkshire increases have taken place in the price of bricks, though I cannot, without further inquiry, accept the figures in the question as accurate. I am not aware that there has been any general increase in cost of lime, although I am informed that there are instances of increase in price in certain parts of Yorkshire. Such increases in prices as have been recorded are at present being investigated by the Committee on Prices of Building Materials, and the question of any further steps that may be necessary to prevent increases in cost of building materials will be dealt with in connection with the Government's housing proposals.

asked the Minister of Health whether, in view of the shortage of British bricks and the high price for hand-made bricks, the Government is prepared to grant facilities for installing machinery in brick works with a view to speeding up production?

The question of the supply of bricks has been under consideration by the National House Building Committee, and reference to the subject is made on page 33 of their Report (Cmd. 2104). This Report is now under consideration by the Government, and I am not in a position to make a, statement on the point referred to by the hon. and gallant Gentleman at the present time.

Contract Prices (Wages and Materials)

asked the Minister of Health whether, in view of the fact that the average cost of building non-parlour and parlour houses has increased since February last year by £41 and £68, respectively, he can state what proportion of the increase is due to the higher prices charged for building materials and what proportion has gone in increased wages to the building operatives?

It is not possible from the information at the disposal, of the Ministry to say what proportions of increase in the contract price of houses are due to wages and materials, respectively, but it is one of the questions which is under consideration?

Poor Law Relief (Shelter)

asked the Minister of Health whether he will at once repeal Article VII of the Relief Regulation Order, 1911, which forbids guardians to pay the rent of any poor person whom they relieve direct to the landlord, though it permits them in regulating the relief to consider the expense that will be incurred by him in providing lodging; and will he communicate the repeal to all the guardians, reminding them that it is the duty of guardians to provide shelter as well as food and clothing where it is needed?

The question of issuing a Circular to the boards of guardians on this subject is under consideration, but I do not contemplate the repeal of Article VII of the Relief Regulation Order.

Water Supplies

asked the Minister of Health if he has received any representation in respect of difficulties, present or prospective, in connection with the water supply by and through the administrative authorities in the country; whether he is aware of any such difficulties as a result of newly-populated areas; and whether he will consider the advisability of an inquiry into the whole subject-matter of the country's water supply, having regard to the movement of population and the limited catch-ground area which is available?

The Ministry of Health are constantly dealing with difficulties in connection with water supply, and the whole question of water supplies is being considered by the Department with the assistance of the Advisory Committee.

Milk

asked the Minister of Health if he has received any representation in respect of the production and sale of tuberculous milk; and what action he proposes to take in connection with the matter?

I would refer the hon. Member to the reply which I gave on the 19th ultimo to the hon. Member for Ealing (Sir H. Nield).

asked the Minister of Health whether he is aware of the serious danger to infant life and welfare arising from the widespread and continually increasing importation of condensed machine-skimmed milk, the sale of which is prohibited in most civilised countries of the world; and whether he proposes to take steps to follow the example of those British Colonies and foreign countries which have prohibited its importation or sale?

I would refer the hon. Member to the replies which I gave on the 25th and 27th of February to the lion, and gallant Member for the Maid-stone Division (Commander Bellairs) and the hon. Member for Weston-super-Mare (Mr. Murrell).

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether, in view of the Regulations governing the handling of milk in this country, he will consider the desirability of legislation compelling foreign importers of condensed, liquid, or dry milk to produce guarantees, subject to official investigation, of equally satisfactory conditions governing the handling of the article they sell to the British public?

I would refer the hon. Member to the Condensed Milk Regulations, 1923, and the Dried Milk Regulations, 1923, made in pursuance of the provisions of the Public Health Acts and the Milk and Dairies (Amendment) Act, 1922. These Regulations apply equally to the imported as to the home-produced commodity, and I do not think that further legislation is needed to protect the interests of British consumers.

Printing Industry (Tuberculosis)

asked the Minister of Health if he is aware of the high percentage of deaths from tuberculosis amongst printers, as shown by the Report signed by Professor Benjamin Moore, D. Sc, F. R. S, arising out of an inquiry into the percentage of deaths from tuberculosis in the printing industry undertaken in 1916, for the Department of Applied Physiology and Hygiene, Medical Research Committee, which Report states that, in spite of the welcome improvements of the past generation, tuberculosis throughout all the printing trades still, preponderates over all other causes of death; and, in view of the importance of this matter to those engaged in the printing industry, and of the necessity for up-to-date figures, will he consider ordering a further inquiry to establish the facts existing since the Report in question was prepared and, if necessary, would he receive a deputation from, the Joint Industrial Council representing the printing industry?

The answer to the first part of the question is "Yes." As regards the second part, I am not at present satisfied as to the need for any further inquiry, but I should be glad to consider any representations from the Joint Industrial Council on the subject of the mortality from tuberculosis in the printing industry.

Venereal Diseases

asked the Minister of Health what decision the Government have arrived at with regard to the recommendations in Clause 16 of the Trevethin Report dealing with the expenditure of money for reducing venereal disease; whether the question of Government financial assistance to the work of voluntary organisation has yet been decided upon; and whether any grant given by the Government will be divided between the Society for the Prevention of Venereal Disease and the National Council for Combating Venereal Diseases, both of these societies having unconditionally accepted the Trevethin Report?

The recommendations in the Trevethin Report, including the question of financial assistance from the Exchequer to the work of voluntary organisations, are still under consideration, and I am not yet in a position to say how any Government grant for this purpose will be allocated.

Tuberculosis (Spahlinger Treatment)

asked the Minister of Health whether he is aware that the New Zealand Government offered £50,000 to develop the Spahlinger treatment of consumption on the condition that the Ministry offered a similar amount; whether the Ministry has adequately investigated the results of such treatment; and whether any action is to be taken?

The answer to the first part of the question is "No." As regards the second part, I may say that all such inquiries have been made by my Department as have been practicable in the absence of a supply of M. Spahlinger's preparations for scientific investigation. As regards the third part I am anxious to arrange for a scientific investigation of this method of treatment in this country, and have personally given M. Spahlinger assurances to that effect.

Approved Societies (Audit)

asked the Minister of Health whether, seeing that 35 approved societies and branches failed to produce their books for audit so that certification thereof could be given by the auditors at 31st December, 1923, and that 58 in like manner were in default at 31st March, 1924, he will consider the provision of an automatic regulation compelling the production of the books within a specified period under a substantial penalty in case of default?

The Report for the year 1923 just issued by the National Insurance Audit Department shows that the stringent procedure which was adopted by the Department in 1921 has resulted in a marked improvement in the delays in production of books for audit. Continued failure to produce books is regarded as mal-administration and no less than 54 societies or branches have been closed down, and their engagements transferred, on account wholly or partly of such failure. The hon. Member will appreciate that the figures he gives are-to be compared with a total of 9,226 societies and branches subject to audit. A Regulation such as the hon. Member suggests would require legislation and it is doubtful if it would be more effective than the administrative action now taken, but the matter will doubtless be considered by the forthcoming Royal Commission on National Health Insurance.

Illiteracy

asked the Minister of Labour the number of applicants for unemployment insurance benefit, men, women, boys, and girls separately, on the registers of the employment exchanges who are illiterate: what proportion this constitutes of the total number of claimants on the live register; and what is the highest percentage of illiteracy in any exchange area?

So far as regards illiteracy, the Departmental records would only enable me to distinguish between claimants who were, and those who were not, able to sign their names. The expense of taking out this information would be considerable, and I do not feel 1 should be justified in incurring it.

Aliens

asked the Minister of Labour (1) whether he will undertake to issue an order to the local Unemployment Committees that in future a record must be kept of all aliens in receipt of covenanted and uncovenanted benefit; and whether he will have these figures published monthly in the Labour Gazette;

(2) the number of aliens at present in receipt of unemployment benefit?

I have already offered on several occasions to obtain a return of aliens drawing uncovenanted benefit if it is the general desire of the House that I should do so, but in the absence of any indication of such a desire I am not prepared to incur the expense. As regards covenanted benefit, the information could not be compiled without first introducing an inquiry, which is not authorised by the Acts of Parliament, into the nationality of claimants to, such benefit.

Dock and Casual Workers (Easter Holidays)

asked the Minister of Labour whether it is the intention of his Department to question the payment of unemployment benefit to dock workers for Good Friday and Easter Monday or whether payment will be made in accordance with the practice followed in the past?

This matter has been further considered, and arrangements have now been made for claims from dock workers and other casual workers in respect of Good Friday and Easter Monday to be dealt with in the same manner as in previous years. I should add, however, that the point is not free from difficulty, and I propose to have it examined at an early date with a view to the establishment of a uniform practice.

Insurance Fund

asked the Minister of Labour what were the total contribution of the State, employers and workers, respectively, under the unemployed insurance schemes for the last financial year for which the figures are available; and what was the cost of the total benefits paid and received, and the total working and administrative expenses under all heads, for the like period?

I would refer the hon. and gallant Member to the reply which I gave to the hon. Member for Ardwick (Mr. Lowth) on 18th March, of which I am sending him a copy.

Poor Law Relief

asked the Minister of Health if he is aware of the inequality in the burden of rates due to prolonged abnormal unemployment in certain industrial areas; and what steps the Government are prepared to take to equalise this burden and make the charge a national instead of a local one?

I am aware of the inequality in the burden of rates, but I would remind the hon. Member that 91 per cent. of the "unemployed" and their dependants in receipt of outdoor relief in England and Wales are persons insured under the Unemployment Insurance Acts, and that the Government have submitted to the House proposals which will have the effect of transferring charges in respect of these persons from the rates to the Unemployment Insurance Fund.

Relief Schemes, Sheffield

asked the Minister of Labour whether the Government has received a resolution from the Sheffield City Council intimating that in the view of the council it is undesirable to take upon itself any further financial burdens unless the Government is prepared to offer better financial assistance than has hitherto been the case; whether he can state the total cost of all Sheffield schemes approved by the Government; and what is the estimate of the total approximate amount to be found by the Government and by the city, respectively, during the next 50 years?

I understand that a resolution from the Sheffield City Council to the effect mentioned in the first part of the question has been received by my right hon. Friend the Minister of Health. As regards the second and third parts of the question, I am collecting the information desired, and will communicate later with the hon. Member.

Juvenile Employment, Liverpool

asked the Minister of Labour if his attention has been called to a Report on Juvenile Unemployment in Liverpool; and what steps he proposes to take to mitigate the moral and physical ill effects of unemployment referred to in that Report?

The Report makes suggestions with regard to various methods of approaching the problem, all of which have, in fact, been under consideration already by the Government. The Exchequer grant to juvenile unemployment centres, to which reference is made in the Report, has for the time being been raised to 100 per cent. of the cost, with the object of encouraging the opening of these centres during the present abnormal period. The requirements of attendance at these centres in the case of unemployed boys and girls between 14 and 16 years of age, on which stress is laid in the Report, will be facilitated by the proposals now before the House in the Unemployment Insurance (No. 2) Bill to bring these boys and girls into insurance if employed in an insured trade. This proposal will also be of great assistance in other ways in enabling the problem of juvenile unemployment to be more accurately diagnosed and more efficiently dealt with. The suggestion for retaining children voluntarily at school till they obtain employment has, I am assured, the warm approval of my right hon. Friend the President of the Board of Education. As regards the suggestion for raising the compulsory school age, I understand that my right hon. Friend is prepared to consider on their merits bye-laws proposed to be made by local education authorities for this purpose. The Report makes certain judicious observations, with which I am in general agreement, on the advisability of promoting, under proper safeguards, overseas settlement for boys and girls. Finally, the Report urges that action should be taken in connection with the regulation of boy labour at the docks, and particularly of sealer boys. So far as this involves regulation of the conditions of employment, it involves an amendment of the Factory Acts, and is being considered by my right hon. Friend the Home Secretary. A scheme for regulating the engagement of these boys has been drafted by my Department, but the adoption of such a scheme must be voluntary, and the proposals are still under negotiation with those concerned.

Alien Waiters

asked the Minister of Labour the total number of waiters of alien origin shown by the last Census Returns to be employed in the United Kingdom; how many aliens have been added to that number since that Return; and under what Regulations or conditions they have been admitted into this country?

According to the 1921 Census, 3,536 male aliens were employed as waiters in England and Wales. In Scotland, 100 aliens, or naturalised British subjects of alien origin, were so employed. The number of permits under the Aliens Order, 1920, issued between the 12th June, 1921, and 21st March, 1924, in respect of waiters was 87. Except in three cases, where the aliens were previously resident in this country, the permits were issued upon the conditional basis explained in my answer to the hon. Member's previous question on the 19th March. Information as to the number of alien waiters who left the country during this period is not available.

Maternity Convention

asked the Minister of Labour what States have ratified the Maternity Convention drafted by the International Labour Conference at Washington in 1919?

Bulgaria, Greece, Rumania and Spain have formally deposited their ratifications of this Convention with the Secretary-General of the League of Nations, and I understand that its ratification has been recommended or authorised in certain other countries.

Parcels Post (Farm Produce)

asked the Postmaster-General whether, with a view to assisting in the direct marketing of small parcels of farm produce, he will consider the inauguration of an agricultural cash-on-delivery postal service?

I regret that, while fully sympathising with the object in view, I do not see my way to introduce an agricultural cash-on-delivery service at a cost which would render it of any appreciable value to the agricultural interests.

Telephone Call Office, Hensingham

asked the Postmaster-General if he is aware that under a guarantee from the Hensingham Parish Council a public telephone has been installed in the village; and what are the duties imposed upon the manager of this sub-exchange and at what rate of salary is he paid?

A call office only —not an exchange—has been installed in private premises at Hensingham under the parish council's guarantee. The council undertook to arrange for attendance at the call office from 8 a.m. to 8 p.m. on weekdays and from 9 to 10.30 a.m. on Sundays, and no payment is made to the attendant by the Post Office.

Wireless Broadcasting (Leafield Station)

asked the Postmaster-General whether he is aware that the Oxford Wireless Company holds the view that the interference with the local listening-in is now worse than before the carrying out of the tests at Leafield which were officially stated to have improved conditions; and whether he will make still further efforts to abate this nuisance?

The effects of the modifications of the circuits in use at the Leafield Station which were recently made are still under investigation; and, as the hon. Member was assured on the 1st instant, everything practicable will be done to minimise interference with broadcast reception by the working of the station.

Facilities, Wingrove, Newcastle-On- Tyne

asked the Postmaster-General if his attention has been drawn to the very general desire expressed in the Wingrove district of New-castle-on-Tyne for the re-establishment of the sub-post office in that area; and if he will consider the possibility of this being done in the interests of the large number of residents concerned?

There is an existing sub-office at a distance of about a quarter of a mile from the former site of the Wingrove sub-office and two other offices within half a mile. The needs of the locality appear to be adequately met and I regret that I do not see my way to re-establish the former Wingrove office.

Motor-Car Taxation

asked the Minister of Transport whether, seeing that the amount which it wais originally estimated would be required from the motoring community for road costs in 1921 was £7,000,000 net, and that in that year the amount was exceeded by over £3,000,000, and that for the present year the original amount has been nearly doubled, and, having regard to the long-delayed Report of the Departmental Committee, appointed to investigate the question of motor taxation, he will take steps immediately to reduce the present burden on the owners of light cars, motor-cycles, and other vehicles which do, comparatively, little damage to the road?

The original amount of £7,000,000, to be raised from motor taxes, was a provisional sum submitted to the Departmental Committee on the Taxation and Regulation of Road Vehicles in October, 1919, and was estimated to cover the contemplated contributions towards the maintenance of first and second-class roads, with a balance from which grants could be made for new road construction and road improvements. When the Committee reported in March, 1920, they estimated that the amount required to be raised for this purpose would be £9,025,000 in 1921. Any increase in the yield since that date is due to the large increase in the number of mechanically-propelled vehicles using the roads, which has also increased the cost of maintaining the roads. The question of the incidence of the present system of taxation on particular classes of vehicles is under consideration by the Committee, and their Report on this matter is expected to be ready in June. I am, obviously, not in a position to examine the question of amending the existing schedule of duties until I have had an opportunity of considering their Report. In any event, such an amendment would require legislation.

Road Scheme, Millom

asked the Minister of Transport if he has received representations from the Millom Urban District Council urging for a grant to cover the cost of a much-needed main road through Millom; if so, what is being done in the matter, seeing that unemployment on a Large scale has been continuous in the Millom area for nearly three years; and if, to find work for these, the arrangements respecting the grant can now be expedited?

Representations in favour of the construction of this road have been made to me by the Millom Urban District Council. The proposal is at present under consideration by the county councils concerned, but no definite proposal has yet been laid before my Department. Any scheme which may be submitted will receive prompt examination.

Newcastle-On-Tyne Industrial School (Mr. a. Fletcher)

asked the Home Secretary whether he will make inquiries into the case of Archibald Fletcher, who served 20 years as an instructor in Newcastle-on-Tyne Industrial School, and who was discharged on 31st March, 1922, owing to an instruction from the Home Office to close down trade departments; and, in view of the fact that Fletcher is still without employment, and that he has been refused a pension, will he consider the possibility of granting him compensation or of providing alternative employment?

The managers of this school decided, at the request of the Home Office, to close their bootmaking department at the end of 1921, and as a consequence of this decision the services of Mr. Fletcher, the bootmaking instructor, were no longer required. The managers, however, were able to find him other employment in the school temporarily, and with the consent of the Home Office he was employed until October, 1922, when he finally left the service of the managers. I regret that Mr. Fletcher was not qualified to receive a pension, and that it is not within my power to give him any assistance.

Salmon Fisheries (Tacksmen)

asked the number of tacksmen of salmon fisheries along the coasts and estuaries of Scotland; the rents payable by them; and the number of fishermen employed by them, indicating the number of individual fishermen who are small tacksmen, and the number of firms employing fishermen?

I understand that 183 fishings have been let to 150 tacksmen by the Commissioners of Woods, Forests, and Land Revenues, and that the total rents payable thereunder amount to £9,179 5s. Apart from the foregoing particulars, information on the points mentioned in the question is not available.

Deer Forests

asked the Secretary for Scotland if he is aware of the large area of land in Argyllshire and other Highland counties which is at present used as deer-forest land and regarding which there is a strong demand among the agricultural community that much of it should be made available for sheep and cattle-grazing; and can he make any statement as to the Government's policy in this matter?

I am aware that representations have been made from time to time that considerable areas of land now used as deer forest should be used for the purposes mentioned. Under their general powers the Board of Agriculture, as suitable opportunity offers, promote schemes for new holdings or enlargements on lands formerly under deer. Up to the present 13,500 acres of such lands have been so used, and will be mainly if not entirely devoted to sheep and cattle grazing. The Bill, which has been introduced by the Government for the purpose of assisting in the collection of agricultural returns, contains a special provision giving the Board of Agriculture power to require returns of stock in respect of land used as a deer forest.

WORKMEN'S COMPENSATION CASE, DUNFERMLlNE

asked the Home Secretary if he is aware that, in the case of a joint application for a reference by Thomas Greer and the Fife Coal Company, made in January last, to the sheriff clerk at Dunfermline, the sheriff clerk has refused to make the reference unless the parties pay the referee's fee before the reference proceeds; and whether he is prepared to give instructions that in joint references the provisions of Section 10 (1) of The Workmen's Compensation Act, 1906, will be observed, and the fee paid by Parliament as provided for in that section?

I would refer my hon. Friend to the answer given to the similar question asked by him on the 13th March. As was then pointed out, the matter is governed by Section 25 of the Workmen's Compensation Act, 1923, which provides that, notwithstanding anything in Section 10 of the Act of 1906, the fees for the services of the Medical Referees in cases1 under paragraph (15) of the First Schedule to the Act of 1906 shall in future be borne by the applicant or applicants for the reference.

Lunacy Laws (Royal Commission)

asked the Prime Minister whether he will give an assurance that no persons who have been connected in any capacity with the lunacy system, nor any who have taken an active part in attacking that system, shall sit as Judges on the Royal Commission on Lunacy, but that their evidence shall be given before the Commission subject to cross-examination?

I have been asked to reply to this question; and I would refer the hon. Member to the answer which I gave to a question on the 2nd April, in which I indicated that the aim of the Government will be to set up an impartial body. As regards the conditions under which evidence will be taken, I would remind the hon. Member that it will be for the Royal Commission to determine their own procedure.

Industrial Unrest

asked the Prime Minister when His Majesty's Government propose to set up an investigation of a systematic kind with a view to determine whether by co-operation with the trade unions or otherwise it is possible to mitigate the circumstances that lead to industrial unrest?

There is at present nothing to add to the statements which have already been made on this subject.

Inter-Allied Indebtedness

asked the Prime Minister whether the question of inter-Allied debts has recently been the subject of formal or informal conversations between Great Britain and the United States or France; and whether it is possible to outline the policy of His Majesty's Government on this subject?

The answer to the first part of the question is in the negative and the second part, therefore, does not at the moment arise.

Potable Spirits (Imports)

asked the Under-Secretary of State for India the quantity and value in pounds sterling of potable spirits imported into India during the year 1922–23, the amount of revenue derived therefrom, and the countries from which the spirits were exported?

The following statement gives the information asked for:

IMPORTS into during 1922–23 of potable spirits, distinguishing countries of origin.

( Note. —Values are shown in sterling at the rate of 1s. 4d. to the rupee.)—Values are shown in sterling at the rate of 1s. 4d. to the rupee.)

Articles and Countries of Origin.

Quantity in Gallons.

Value.

Brandy ——

£

United Kingdom

11,090

21,232

France

206,558

228,972

Germany

41,524

24,295

Java

12,487

1,575

Netherlands

1,069

823

Other Countries

1,300

1,632

Total

274,028

278,529

Gin ——

United Kingdom

68,526

60,672

Netherlands

8,050

5,260

Other Countries

1,235

839

Total

77,811

66,771

Liqueurs ——

United Kingdom

3,614

7,370

Denmark

1,015

1,647

France

5,683

9,627

Other Countries

2,330

3,725

Total

12,642

22,369

Rum ——

United Kingdom

5,510

4,136

Germany

6,568

3,243

Java

124,719

11,605

Other Countries

737

583

Total

137,534

19,567

Whisky ——

United Kingdom

579,479

786,220

Germany

13,162

7,190

Other Countries

2,353

2,111

Total

594,994

795,521

Other Potable Spirit ——

United Kingdom

10,528

39,509

Ceylon

18,584

3,426

Hong Kong

12,034

5,134

China (exclusive of Hong Kong and Hacao).

12,040

5,527

Java

17,019

1,708

Other Countries

4,133

5,143

Total

74,338

60,447

Grand Total, Potable Spirit.

1,171,347

1,243,204

Net revenue derived from import of Spirits and Liquors in 1922–23 = Rs. 2,07,58,246 (at 1s. 4d. to the rupee = £1,383,880).

Excise Revenue

asked the Undersecretary of State for India whether he will state in pounds sterling the net Excise revenue of India for the years 1920–21, 1921–22, and 1922–23, respectively; what was the recorded consumption of country spirits in each of those years in Bengal, Madras, Bombay, Sind, Bihar and Orissa,

NET EXCISE REVENUE IN INDIA (Government of India and Provincial Governments), i.e., Gross Receipts less refunds and compensations. Gross Receipts less refunds and compensations.

1920–21.

1921–22.

1922–23.

Rs.

Rs.

Rs.

Net Revenue

20,29,39,192

17,18,61,914

18,55,21,656

Less compensations

15,10,330

14,81,274

12,91,642

Rs.

20,14,28,862

17,03,80,640

18,42,30,014

At 15 Rs. = £ (the present approximate rate of exchange).

£13,428,591

£11,358,709

£12,282,001

RECORDED CONSUMPTION OP COUNTRY SPIRITS. *

1920–21.

1921–22.

1922–23.

Proof gallons.

Proof gallons.

Proof gallons.

Bengal

766,572

599,415

593,356

Madras

1,723,868

1,644,417

1,575,439

Bombay

2,592,174

2,085,774

1,770,715

Sind

222,375

139,706

137,290

Bihar and Orissa

1,304,671

1,079,281

1,241,280

United Provinces

1,138,030

576,881

473,077

Punjab

514,350

300,767

188,000

Central Provinces and Berar

1,011,849

560,125

314,819†

Assam

304,572

152,349

178,966

Burma

132,883

146,597

151,689

* Excluding outstill areas for which statistics of consumption are not available. Excluding outstill areas for which statistics of consumption are not available.

†Figures for nine months, April-December, 1922. The corresponding figure for the period April-December, 1921, was 357,661.

PERCENTAGE OF EXCISE REVENUE AS COMPARED WITH TOTAL REVENUE ACCRUING TO PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENTS, 1922–28.

Province.

Revenue of Provincial Governments, 1922–23.

Net Excise Revenue of Provincial Governments, 1922–23.

Percentage of Col. 3 to Col. 2.

1.

2.

3.

4.

Rs. lakhs.

Rs. lakhs.

Madras

1,257·8

488·7

38·9

Bombay (including Sind)

1,417·2

412·8

29·1

Bengal

985·0

200·1

20·3

United Provinces

1,006·0

141·1

14·0

Punjab

827·9

102·7

12·4

Burma

886·1

111·6

12·6

Bihar and Orissa

494·1

154·0

31·2

Central Provinces and Berar

515·3

125·7

24·4

Assam

184·4

54·1

29·3

the United Provinces, the Punjab, the Central Provinces and Berar, Assam, and Burma, respectively; and what was the percentage of Excise revenue as compared with the total revenue accruing to the Provincial Government in each case for the year 1922–23?

Opium Traffic

asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies whether his attention has been drawn to what is known as the Straits opium monopoly recently created by Dr. Sum Yat Sen's Government in Canton; whether he is aware that a large number of opium licensing bureaux have been established by the Canton Government, and that during the month of April 152 new opium dens have been established for which licences have been granted for the smoking of opium; and, seeing that this proceeding is not in accordance with the recent convention relating to opium, agreed upon by the nations who are parties to the League of Nations convention, whether His Majesty's Government are taking any action in the matter?

The answer to the first two parts of the question is in the negative. The third part, therefore, does not arise.

asked the Prime Minister whether the projected League of Nations Opium Conference has been convened for the purpose of giving effect to the principles submitted by the United States representatives on the opium advisory committee last May; whether he is aware that those principles included the restriction of the use of opium and cocaine products to medical and scientific purposes, and the restriction of the production of raw opium to the quantity needed for such purpose alone; and whether the representative of His Majesty's Government on the preparatory committee for the conferences wi8ll be instructed to give support to these proposals?

I have been asked to reply. The purpose for which the conference has been summoned is to consider the possibility of concluding an agreement or agreements for the limitation of the amounts of morphine, heroin and cocaine to be manufactured, and the limitation of the amounts of raw opium and the cocaine produced for export to the amounts required for such manufacture and other medicinal and scientific purposes, subject to an exception for those countries where opium smoking is temporarily continued under Part II of the convention. The proposal that a conference should be held with this object was put forward at the meeting of the advisory committee last May on behalf of the British Government, and the attempt to arrive at such agreements will receive the utmost support which the Government can give.

Harbour Construction (St. Bees, Cumberland)

asked the Minister of Agriculture if he has received a Report from Commander Collard, R.N., in which he reported favourably in regard to the building of a boat-landing at St. Bees, Cumberland; and if, having regard to the number of unemployed in this area and also to the' fact that the boat-landing, if erected, would lead to continuous employment for a number of men, he will expedite the making of a grant so that this work may be taken in hand at once?

The district inspector expressed the opinion that a convenient boat harbour could be constructed at St. Bees, but in view of the fact that fishing is not yet established there, and having regard to the superior claims of other places where there are fishermen, for such advances from the Development Fund as may be available for harbour construction, I cannot think that an application to the Development Commissioners in this case would be entertained.

Tree Felling, Highgate Wood

asked the Minister of Agriculture whether he is aware of the systematic and continuous cutting down of trees in Highgate Wood; whether the Office of Woods and Forests have any jurisdiction in this matter; and, if so, whether he will take steps to secure a discontinuance of this practice?

My right hon. Friend has no information nor jurisdiction with regard to Highgate Wood, which is under the control of the Corporation of the City of London. The last part of the question does not therefore arise.

Foodstuffs (Production and Imports)

asked the Minister of Agriculture what weight of wheat, including flour, barley, oats, potatoes, and meat, including, if possible, bacon and hams, were imported and produced, respectively, in the United Kingdom in each of the years 1912, 1913, and 1922, and the estimated population of the United Kingdom in each such year?

1912.

1913.

1922.

Description.

Home Production.

Net Imports.

Home Production.

Net Imports.

Home Production.

Net Imports.

Tons.

Tons.

Tons.

Tons.

Tons.

Tons.

Wheat (Imports include Flour as Grain).

1,538,000

6,009,000

1,576,000

5,963,000

1,780,000

5,576,000

Barley

1,351,000

981,000

1,580,000

1,120,000

1,250,000

631,000

Oats

2,818,000

904,000

2,930,000

883,000

2,812,000

453,000

Potatoes

5,726,000

* 74,00074,000

7,605,000

443,000

8,634,000

26,000

MEAT (Years ending 31st May)—

Beef and Veal

782,000

449,000

786,000

477,000

680,000

533,000

Mutton and Lamb

340,000

256,000

322,000

260,000

246,000

323,000

Pig meat

450,000

322,000

408,000

287,000

399,000

363,000

* Net export. Net export.

Population estimated to the middle of each year:

No.

1912

45,508,243

1913

45,713,370

1922

47,506,456

Rifle Traps (Accident, Frome)

asked the Minister of Agriculture whether his attention has been drawn to a recent accident at Frome, Somerset, in which a, farmer was killed by a rifle trap set by himself for deer; and whether he will take action to prohibit the use of such traps?

I have been asked to reply. I have no information about the accident referred to. If the hon. Member will favour me with particulars, I will consider whether any action is desirable.

Para.

Recommendation.

Action taken (if any). (if any).

7.

That a general survey of the condition of agricultural land throughout the United Kingdom should be made from the point of view of its utilisation for food production.

A general survey of farms in England and Wales was carried out in 1917 and 1918, with a view to the breaking up of grassland in order to increase the production of food

8.

That the Board of Agriculture should have power temporarily to supersede owners in case of such mismanagement as seriously affects food production.

Powers to take over the control of all grossly mismanaged estates were conferred by Section 4 of Part I of the Agriculture Act, 1920, but Part I was repealed in the following year.

The home production in and net imports into the United Kingdom of the undermentioned commodities in 1912, 1913 and 1922 were as follow:—

Selborne Committee (Recommendations)

asked the Minister of Agriculture if he will indicate in tabular form what has been done in respect of each of the recommendations numbered 7 to 91, inclusive, set out on pages 94 to 97 of the Report of the Agricultural Policy Sub-Committee (Cd. 9079), presided over by the Earl of Selborne?

The action taken with regard to Recommendations 7 to 91 of the Selborne Committee's Report, so far as England and Wales is concerned, is as follows:

Para

Recommendation.

Action taken (if any). (if any).

9.

That the Board of Agriculture should have power to dispossess tenants who cultivate their lands badly so as seriously to affect food production.

Powers to enforce the proper cultivation of land and, in default of compliance, to determine tenancies (or in the case of land occupied by the owner, to take possession of the land) were conferred by Section 9 of Part IV of the Corn Production Act, 1917, which was subsequently amended by Section 4 of Part I of the Agriculture Act, 1920. These provisions were repealed in 1921. They were never, in fact, operative, as similar powers were exercisable under the Defence of the Realm Regulations, until the date of the termination of the War (31st August, 1921).

10.

That a Departmental Committee should be set up to consider the improvement of common grazing lands.

No action taken.

11.

That an increase in the number of cottages in rural districts should be brought about at the earliest possible moment.

The provision of cottages in rural districts was included in the housing policy introduced after the War. A number of cottages have also been provided on statutory small holdings under the Land Settlements scheme.

12.

That the powers of the Irish Department of Agriculture under the Defence of the Realm Act, with regard to enforcing proper cultivation, should be extended and made permanent.

This is a matter for the Irish Departments of Agriculture.

13.

That the Development Commissioners should no longer be debarred from making advances to associations trading for profit.

The full recommendation was: "We recommend that either the Development and Road Improvement Funds Act should be amended…, or that the Government should provide the necessary assistance from sources not subject to the same restrictions as the Development Fund."

The latter alternative has been adopted, financial assistance for the purpose, inter alia, of erecting beet sugar factories being made available under the Trade Facilities Act. of erecting beet sugar factories being made available under the Trade Facilities Act.

14.

That the Government should assist in providing the funds necessary to establish a sugar factory.

The Government subscribed half the capital of Home Grown Sugar, Limited, a company formed for the purpose of establishing a factory at Kelham. It also guaranteed the interest over a period of years on that part of the capital subscribed by the public, and, later, gave further financial assistance to enable the company to continue operations.

15.

That the present surtax should be continued for 10 years.

"The present surtax" related to the difference between the Customs duty on imported sugar and the Excise duty on home-grown sugar, which then amounted to 2s. 4d. per cwt.

The Government, in March, 1922, decided to remit entirely the Excise duty on homegrown sugar, and this remission has been continued by subsequent Governments and is still in operation, the present value of the assistance so given being 25s. 8d. per cwt.

16.

That the Government should carry out a complete test of the commercial possibilities of manufacturing sugar from home-grown beet.

The action on Recommendation 14 was taken with this end in view, and the results of the working of the Kelham factory are now available.

Para

Recommendation.

Action taken (if any). (if any).

17.

That a special Minister for agriculture in Scotland should be appointed, who should be directly responsible to Parliament.

These are matters for the Secretary for Scotland.

18.

That Statutory County Agricultural Committees should be set up in Scotland.

19.

That a National Agricultural Council should be set up for Scotland.

20.

That an Advisory Committee, on the lines of the Agricultural Board in Ireland, should be set up in Scotland.

21.

That the English Department of Agriculture should be housed under one roof.

Carried out as far as possible. Except the statistical staff and outdoor officers, the Ministry is now concentrated at Nos. 4 and 10, Whitehall Place, London, S.W.1.

22.

That the status of the Minister for Agriculture should be raised to that of the President of the Board of Trade or Local Government Board.

Considered by a Select Committee of the House of Commons in l920 (Report No. 241) who recommended that the Minister of Agriculture should be in Class II, with salary of £3,000 and an extra £2,000 if in Cabinet. The report was not adopted.

23.

That the staff should be strengthened and its responsibilities increased.

The staff of the Ministry was re-organised in 1919.

24.

That Statutory County Agricultural Committees should be set up.

Such Committees were set up under Part III of the Ministry of Agriculture and Fisheries Act, 1919.

25.

That a National Agricultural Council for England should be set up.

Such a body was set up under Part II of the Ministry of Agriculture and Fisheries Act, 1919.

26.

That the National Agricultural Council for Wales should be made statutory.

Such a body was set up under Part II of the Ministry of Agriculture and Fisheries Act, 1919.

27.

That an Advisory Committee, on the lines of the Agricultural Board in Ireland, should be set up.

The Agricultural Advisory Committee for England and Wales also set up under the Ministry of Agriculture and Fisheries Act, 1919.

28.

That delegates from the four National Agricultural Councils should meet annually.

No statutory provision for this has been made, though it has been provided in Part II of the Act of 1919 that the Councils of Agriculture for England and Wales may from time to time by agreement act together as one council.

29.

That the work done by the agricultural colleges should be developed and extended.

This is a matter for the Secretary for Scotland.

30.

That the responsibility for agricultural education should be removed from the county councils and centralised in the Board of Agriculture, the cost being borne out of national funds.

Not adopted.

31.

That an improved ruralised curriculum for elementary and secondary schools should be laid down, and better prospects provided for teachers in rural districts.

The Board of Education are using the whole weight of their influence to bring the curriculum of the rural elementary school into closer relationship with country life. As a result of the Burnham Committee's Report the pay and prospects of teachers in rural schools have been materially improved.

Para

Recommendation.

Action taken (if any). (if any).

32.

That demonstration and illustration' farms should be established.

These recommendations have, in the main, been adopted by the Ministry in carrying out its policy in relation to agricultural education and research during the last five years. For a detailed account of such policy I would refer the hon. Member to the Report of the Intelligence Department of the Ministry for the two years 1919–21 (S.O. Publication) and to the Stationery Office Publication "Agricultural Research and the Farmer" which deals with the work of the research institutes. Livestock officers are now officials of the Ministry.

33.

That instruction should proceed in a number of directions indicated in the paragraph.

35.

That research work should be developed.

36.

That livestock schemes should be extended, and livestock officers become the servants of the Board of Agriculture.

37.

That the expenditure on agricultural education should be largely increased.

38.

That better opportunities for the agricultural education of women should be given.

39.

That students likely to become landowners or land agents should be given greater opportunity of studying rural economy at public schools and universities.

34.

That a limited number of large demonstration farms run on business lines should be established.

Has not been adopted.

40.

That additional support from national funds should be given to existing Agricultural Organisation Societies.

These recommendations were put into effect. The amounts of the grants made to the Agricultural Organisation Society for the years 1918–23 were as follows:—

£

1918–19

27,867

1919–20

47,528

1920–21

32,000

1921–22

15,586

1922–23

4,556

41.

That the procedure in respect of loans should be cheapened and simplified.

The rate of interest on loans made under the Lands Improvements Act has not been reduced, but the facilities provided by this Act have been extended by Section 3 of the Agricultural Credits Act. 1923.

43.

That deposits in the Post Office Savings Bank should be made available for use by Central Trading Boards.

Not adopted.

44.

That an inquiry should be made into the success attending the special form of tenure set up by the Small Landholders (Scotland) Act, 1911.

This is a matter for the Secretary for Scotland.

45.

That greater facilities for purchase should be given to smallholders desirous of owning their land;

Section 11 of the Land Settlement (Facilities) Act, 1919, repealed the requirement of the Small Holdings and Allotments Act, 1908, that the purchaser of a statutory small holding should pay not less than one-fifth of the purchase money in cash; empowered local authorities to extend the term for repayment of the purchase money from 50 years to 60 years; and gave a tenant of a small holding provided by a county council on land purchased by them, who had been in occupation for not less than six years, a statutory right to purchase his holding.

That county councils should be urged to prepare schemes at once for the provision of small holdings for ex-sailors and soldiers both as tenants and owners;

As a result of the Land Settlement Scheme worked through the agency of county councils and councils of county boroughs 18,608 men are at present in possession of holdings provided for them since the Armistice, of whom 16,625 are ex-service men.

Para

Recommendation.

Action taken (if any). (if any).

And that the Treasury should remove the financial restrictions at present placed upon them.

The Land Settlement (Facilities) Act, 1919, provided for a land settlement fund of £20,000,000 for capital expenditure in connection with the above scheme.

46.

That the principle of purchase contained in Mr. Jesse Collins' Purchase of Land Bill should be adopted.

As explained above, the Land Settlement (Facilities) Act, 1919, gives facilities to persons desirous of purchasing small holdings provided by county councils and to this extent the principle underlying Mr. Jesse Collins' Bill has been adopted. No steps have, however, been taken m the direction of an extended scheme of the kind proposed in his Bill

47.

That schemes for the reconstruction of a certain type of village should be drawn up on the lines indicated in the paragraph.

No schemes of village reconstruction have been drawn up by this Ministry, which has no statutory powers.

48.

That the development of rural industries and the formation of Women's Institutes should be a recognised activity of the Agricultural Organisation Society, or other similar body, and that distinct grants for those purposes should be given.

A Rural Industries Intelligence Bureau has been set up for the purpose of collecting and disseminating information, and grants-in-aid of its expenditure are made from the Development Fund. The formation of Women's Institutes is promoted by the National Federation of Women's Institutes, to which annual grants have been made since its foundation in 1919. The grants are on a diminishing scale as the Federation becomes increasingly self supporting.

49.

That legislation should be passed to stimulate tithe redemption particularly with a view to making land available for small holdings or for village reconstruction without payment of cash.

The Tithe Act, 1918, was passed to stimulate redemption; but the proposal to allow land to be given as the consideration for redemption was not adopted, as it was found that there would be substantial difficulties in working such a scheme.

50.

That a periodic re-valuation for assessment purposes should be made.

A Rating and Valuation Bill, which provides for periodic re-assessments, has been drafted, and is under consideration.

51.

That the cost of national services should be more equitably apportioned between local and national funds.

In the course of the last few years the Government have given largely increased grants for Education and Police on the lines recommended by the Departmental Committee of 1914, and a comprehensive system of grants for roads has been instituted. In addition, large new grants have been introduced for several public health services, and the State has given very considerable assistance to local authorities with regard to housing and land settlement, while the large extension of Unemployment Insurance must have lessened the expenses of boards of guardians.

52.

That high farming, beyond the recognised requirements of good farming, should, subject to proper safeguards, be recognised as a subject for compensation.

Compensation for continuous high farming is provided for by Section 9 of the Agricultural Holdings Act, 1923.

53.

That a schedule of dilapidations should be set up for use where no agreement exists.

Not acted upon, but the point is covered to some extent by the insertion of a definition of good husbandry in Section 57 of the Agricultural Holdings Act, 1923.

54.

That Section 1 (2) ( b ) should be amended.) should be amended.

The Section referred to has been amended— see Section 1 (2) ( b ) of the Agricultural Holdings Act, 1923.) of the Agricultural Holdings Act, 1923.

55.

That, subject to a limitation with regard to market gardens, agreements substituting compensation in place of that provided under the Acts, should be void.

Dealt with by Section 4 of the Agricultural Holdings Act, 1923.

56.

That Section 5 should be amended.

This Section has been amended— see Section 50 of the Agricultural Holdings Act, 1923. Section 50 of the Agricultural Holdings Act, 1923.

Para

Recommendation.

Action taken (if any). (if any).

57.

That Section 11 (England), Section 10 (Scotland) Act should fee amended with a view to extending the compensation allowed in respect of disturbance.

The Sections have been amended— see Section 12 of the Agricultural Holdings Act, 1923. Section 12 of the Agricultural Holdings Act, 1923.

58.

That the Agricultural Holdings Act, 1914, should be extended to Scotland.

This is a matter for the Secretary for Scotland.

59.

That the sections allowing compensation for damage by game should be extended to allow compensation to be claimed from persons from whose land ground game comes.

No action taken.

60.

That where no custom obtains tenants holding under no agreement should be required to farm according to accepted rules of good husbandry during last year of tenancy; and incomer or landlord should have the option of purchasing manure, hay or straw proposed to he sold off during last year of tenancy.

No action taken on the first part of the recommendation; the second part is dealt with by Section 31 of the Agricultural Holdings Act, 1923.

61.

That Amendments in procedure should be adopted for the purpose of reducing cost of assessing campensation.

Effect has been given to recommendations ( f ), ( h ) and ( i ) in paragraph 282, and to recommendations ( a ) and ( b ) in paragraph 283, by the Agricultural Holdings Act, 1923.) in paragraph 283, by the Agricultural Holdings Act, 1923.

62.

That arbitrators in England and Wales, appointed by the Board of Agriculture, should have recognised qualifications.

Under the Agricultural Holdings Act, 1923, a Panel of Arbitrators has been set up by the Lord Chief Justice and any arbitrator appointed by the Minister under the Act must be selected from the Panel.

63.

That the First Schedule should be amended.

The First Schedule to the Agricultural Holdings Act, 1908, has been extended, but not so as to include the matters specifically mentioned in paragraph 285 of the Report.

64.

That Rules 10 and 14 of the Second Schedule should be amended.

Provided for by Sections 3 (3) and 27 of the Agricultural Holdings Act, 1923.

65.

That Sections 3 (3) and 25 (iii) should be amended.

66.

That Section 35 (3) should be made of general application, so far as it applies to compensation for improvements.

No action taken.

67.

That the provisions of Section 40 should be extended so as to place occupiers of glebe land in the same position with regard to notice to quit (Section 22) as other agricultural tenants.

Dealt with by Section 24 of the Agricultural Holdings Act, 1923.

68.

That the principle of the Evesham Custom should be adopted.

The principle of the Evesham Custom is recognised to a limited extent by Section 49 (1) of the Agricultural Holdings Act, 1923, which is supplementary to, and not in substitution for, previous statutory provisions relating to market garden, holdings.

69.

That agreements outside the above should be permitted subject to approval by the Board of Agriculture.

No action taken.

70.

That in case of refusal by the landowners to allow land to be used for market garden purposes, the procedure described in the paragraph should be adopted.

Provided for by Section 49 (1) of the Agricultural Holdings Act, 1923.

71.

That the question of reclamation must be dealt with by legislation.

No action taken.

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72.

That a special Sub-Committee of the Reconstruction Committee should be set up to report as to the principles on which such land should be acquired.

No action taken.

73.

That the Land Drainage Act, 1914, should continue in force until Parliament deals with the whole subject in a comprehensive manner.

Many of the land drainage problems were dealt with in the Land Drainage Act passed in 1918.

74.

That Reclamation and Land Drainage Authorities for each of the three Kingdoms should be established.

So far as England and Wales are concerned, land drainage and reclamation questions are dealt with by a separate branch of the Ministry of Agriculture and Fisheries.

75.

That the County Agricultural Committees should have power to insist that minor drainage works are kept in proper working order.

These powers were generally granted under the Agriculture Act, 1920, subsequently repealed. The only quasi kindred power that remains is that in Sections 16 and 17 of the Land Drainage Act, 1918. kindred power that remains is that in Sections 16 and 17 of the Land Drainage Act, 1918.

76.

That land suitable for agriculture and forestry should be so utilised and that a special survey for this purpose should be made.

Land in deer forests suitable for agriculture and forestry was reported on in 1922 (Cmd. 1636) by an Inter-Departmental Committee.

A survey of land prima facie suitable for forestry was initiated by the Forestry Commissioners, but owing to restriction of their expenditure in 1922 and consequent reduction of their staff, this survey had to be discontinued. The Commissioners agree that where suitable land is found in sufficient quantities and is not required for agriculture it should be utilised for forestry. suitable for forestry was initiated by the Forestry Commissioners, but owing to restriction of their expenditure in 1922 and consequent reduction of their staff, this survey had to be discontinued. The Commissioners agree that where suitable land is found in sufficient quantities and is not required for agriculture it should be utilised for forestry.

77.

That a national policy of afforestation and intermingling plantations and small holdings should be adopted.

Within the limit of the funds at their disposal the Forestry Commissioners are carrying out a programme of afforestation; small holdings have been established in connection with some of the State plantations.

The Commissioners have submitted to the Government proposals for the expansion of their forestry operations, and these proposals are under consideration.

78.

That legislation should be passed to prohibit the sale of grass and other seeds without guarantee of purity, germination, etc., to schedule and deal with injurious weeds; and to eliminate animal pests.

The first part of No. 78 was effected by the Seeds Act, 1920. Powers to deal with certain injurious weeds are conferred on the Ministry by the Corn Production Acts (Repeal) Act, 1921. Certain animal pests can be dealt with under the Rats and Mice Destruction Act, 1919.

79.

That the County Agricultural Committees should be given special powers to deal with weeds and pests; that a Committee suffering from supineness on the part of an adjoining Committee should have the right of appeal to the Board of Agriculture; and that the Local Government Boards should inquire into the injury done to agriculture by pests emanating from cities, ports and urban districts, with a view to providing a remedy.

80.

That a Special Sub-Committee of the Reconstruction Committee should be set up to inquire into the whole question of imperial weights and measures.

I am not aware that any such Sub-Committee was ever set up.

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81.

That a uniform standard of weight should be laid down on which alone sales and purchases of agricultural produce, other than liquids and certain market-garden produce, should be legal.

The Corn Sales Act, 1921 (which came into operation on 1st January, 1923), provides that "every contract, bargain, sale or dealing relating to corn shall, unless it is made or had by weight only and in terms of and by reference to the hundredweight of one hundred and twelve Imperial standard pounds, be null and void." The expression "corn" includes wheat, barley, oats, rye, maize and the meal and bran derived therefrom and any mixture thereof, and the Act also applies to dried peas, dried beans, linseed and potatoes, and to the seed of grass, clover, vetches, swedes, field turnips, rape, field cabbages, field, kale, field kokl rabi, mangels, beet and; sugar beet, flax and sainfoin.

The Act does not apply to transactions relating to:

(i) Quantities of less than a cwt.

(ii) Corn not within the United Kingdom at the date of the transaction, or to-imported corn so long as it remains in the warehouse, etc., where first stored on importation.

(iii) Corn imported into the United Kingdom where the contract provides for delivery in the original bags in which imported.

(iv) Corn bought or sold for export from the United Kingdom.

(v) Growing corn, or corn unthreshed.

82.

That a uniform standard of measure for liquids should be similarly laid down.

I am not aware of any proposals of this-nature. Milk is the only liquid agricultural product, and producers' prices are, it is understood, almost entirely fixed on the basis of the imperial gallon.

83.

That a uniform standard of number for certain market-garden produce, regularly sold by number, should similarly be laid down.

No action taken.

84.

That official and other market quotations should be required to be in the terms of the standards laid down.

Official quotations, and market quotations-published by the Ministry are given per cwt., in the case of those commodities covered by the Corn Sales Act.

85.

That the several standards should be selected so as to cause as little interference as possible with existing methods.

This was probably considered when framing the Corn Sales Act, 1921.

86.

That a certain transition period should be fixed, at the end of which the new standards should be recognised.

The Corn Sales Act, 1921, did not come into operation until 1st January, 1923.

87.

That a special Sub-Committee of the Reconstruction Committee should be set up to inquire into the whole question of transport improvement and facilities.

"Since the appointment of the Selborne Committee the railways have been reorganised under the terms of the Railways Act, 1921. Section 16 of that Act 'is designed to secure that reasonable facilities (including minor alterations, extensions and improvements) shall be afforded by the railway companies. Proposals for the improvement of transport facilities for agricultural produce put forward by responsible promoters, or local or representative bodies are carefully examined and considered by the Government Departments concerned."

88.

That farmers should be induced to act in co-operation to obtain and send larger quantities of goods by water.

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89.

That a scheme should be prepared to enable discarded army motors to be made use of in the organisation of transport services, and for other farm purposes.

An Inter-Departmental Development Committee was appointed in November, 1919. It included representatives of the Ministries of Transport, Agriculture and Health, and of the Board of Trade. A large number of schemes for motor and light railway transport were investigated by this Committee in 1919 and 1920. The labours of this Committee were, however, brought to a close at the beginning of 1921, when, owing to the call for economy in public Departments, it was decided that no funds would be available for projects of this kind.

90.

That some arrangement should be made by which public funds would be made available to assist in the organisation of motor transport.

91.

That to charge rates for foreign produce lower in proportion to the cost of the services rendered than the corresponding rates for home produce should be looked upon as preferential treatment, and that the Government should take the stops necessary to enforce the law as to undue preference.

There has been no alteration in the law relating to undue preference in recent years, and it is open to traders to bring any question of undue preference before the Railway and Canal Commission. The whole question of railway rates is dealt with in the Railways Act, 1921.

Wages, Scotland

asked the Secretary for Scotland in how many districts in Scotland agreements have been entered into between the farmers' unions and the farm servants fixing the current rate of wages for agricultural workers; and whether he can specify the rate of wages paid for each grade of worker in each district?

According to information furnished by the Scottish Farm Servants' Union, I understand that agreements were made at the recent hirings in the Lothians and in the Glasgow district, which includes Dumbarton, West Stirling, Lower Lanark and Renfrew. The terms agreed on are as follow:

East Lothian.

An increase in wages of Is. per week for all men and women employed on the farms and a bonus of 26s. to be payable to all men on the farms, in the event of the average fiars' prices for wheat, oats and barley for 1925 exceeding the average fiars' prices for these grains for the year 1924. This brings the standard for ordinary married ploughmen to 34s. per week, with 16 cwt. of potatoes in the year and house rent free. First men are paid Is. per week more. Grieves, cattlemen and herds usually receive higher rates, but these vary according to size of farm, etc., and it is not possible to state any standard figure. Women's wages are 21s. per week.

Midlothian and West Lothian.

An increase in wages of Is. per week for men and 6d. for women. This brings the standard rate for ordinary married ploughmen to 35s. to 39s. per week, with 12 cwt. of potatoes in the year and house rent free. First men are paid Is. per week more; the rates for grieves, cattlemen and herds vary as in East Lothian. Wages for women workers range from 19s. to 20s. per week.

Glasgow District.

An increase in wages of Is. per week to all male married workers. This brings the standard rate to 38s. to 40s. per week, with six cwt. of potatoes and 10 stone of meal in the six months and house rent free. First men receive Is. per week more.

Land Settlement Scheme

asked the Minister of Agriculture whether, in view of the recommendations now being made that the solution of the farming difficulty is freer access to the land, he will lay before the House statistics showing the financial position of the small holding community as a whole, so that Parliament may be properly informed on the matter?

As my right hon. Friend stated in reply to a question put by the hon. Member for Mid Bedford (Mr. Lin-field) on 28th February last, a general Report on the land settlement scheme up to 31st December, 1923, is being prepared and will be presented to Parliament as soon as possible. This Report will contain statistics showing the progress of the scheme, but it will obviously be im- possible to obtain for inclusion in the Report detailed particulars of the financial position of each of the 270,000 smallholders in England and Wales. The customary test of the financial position of a smallholder is his ability to pay his rent and other outgoings and to make a living from his holding, and in these respects I am glad to say that the position of the statutory smallholders is, on the whole, satisfactory.

Tuberculosis Order

asked the Minister of Agriculture if he has received any representation in respect of tubercle-infected cattle and the production and sale of tuberculous milk; if he will state the suggestions, if any, which have been made for dealing with the matter; and whether he proposes to take any action in respect thereto?

Resolutions have been received from a number of local authorities on this subject. Suggestions have been made to the Ministry that the Tuberculosis Order of 1914 should again be put into operation, and this question is receiving my careful consideration.

Bad Farming

asked the Minister of Agriculture whether, in view of his recent statement that control will become necessary unless greatly increased public interest stimulates some of our British farmers to a more active form of farming, he will state exactly what are the aspects of existing farming which he regards as unsatisfactory?

I think it is well known that there are an appreciable number of farms which are occupied by men who for one reason or another are not managing the land according to the best principles of good husbandry. It cannot be in the best interests of the country or of agriculture that the relatively limited amount of land available in this country for food production should not be turned to the best account, and my right hon. Friend is personally of opinion that some reasonable form of control which would prevent the waste of our national resources would be beneficial.