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Volume 177: debated on Wednesday 8 October 1924

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Written Answers

British Army

Lulworth Cove

asked the Secretary of State for War whether the War Office has yet vacated the land at Lulworth Cove; if not, what arrangements he has made to do so; and whether, in the interval, the interference with the rights of the public and the work of the fishermen has been abandoned?

I would refer the hon. Member to the reply given on 2nd instant to the hon. and gallant Members for Southampton (Lord Apsley) and Central Hull (Lieut.-Commander Kenworthy). Pending the acquisition of, and removal to, a new site, the use of the existing site must continue, and, in the interests of public safety, certain restrictions are necessary in connection with that use. It has however been arranged to reduce these restrictions by confining the firing to certain days and limiting the hours on those days. I would point out that the land occupied is not at Lulworth Cove.

Carlton Barracks, Leeds (Rodeo Exhibition)

asked the Secretary of State for War, whether his Department has considered proposals for an agreement to let the Carlton Barracks, Leeds, to a limited liability company for the purpose of rodeo exhibitions; whether he has considered the unsuitability of the limited space and the lack of suitable accommodation for the steers, the nuisance to the large numbers of people in the adjoining neighbourhood, and the widespread objection taken in Leeds to the holding of such an exhibition; and whether he will take steps to see that Government property is not used for this purpose?

The matter had not been before me until my hon. Friend's question brought it to my notice, but I have now made inquiries, which however do not confirm the suggestions made in the question. I am informed that no local complaints have been received and that the animals will not be accommodated at Carlton barracks, but on a farm outside Leeds. The control of such an exhibition appears to be primarily a matter for the local authorities, and on the information before me, I am not in a position to intervene.

Catterick Camp Extensions

asked the Secretary of State for War the number of building trade operatives, skilled and unskilled, employed at present on the Catterick camp extensions; the number of bricks required for the completion of the first contract; and whether a second building contract has been or is about to be made?

The number of building trade operatives is, skilled, 386; unskilled, 487; and the number of bricks required for the completion of the first contract and not yet on the site is 2,500,000. It is proposed to call for tenders for the second contract in December.

Woolwich Arsenal And Dockyard (Discharges)

asked the Financial Secretary to the War Office how many discharges have been made from the Woolwich Arsenal and Dockyard since 1st February last; and whether any more discharges are in contemplation?

The number of discharges for all causes that have taken place from War Department establishments at Woolwich Arsenal and Dockyard during the period in question (excluding transfers) is 956. This includes 141 discharges on account of age or ill-health and 336 resignations. As regards the second part of the question, the hon. Member is aware that a certain number of discharges occurring out of the ordinary course of wastage, etc., will be rendered necessary by the evacuation of stores from the dockyard.

Expenditure

asked the Secretary of State for War if he can give the gross and net totals of the audited expenditure on the Army for the year 1913–14, by similar Votes and sub-heads as the Estimates for the current year?

I regret that the hon. Member's suggestion is not practicable. Such figures could only be obtained from accounts currently compiled, and in 1913–14 the present cost accounting system was not in existence.

Courts-Martial

asked the Secretary of State for War whether he will furnish a Return giving information for the year 1923 of general courts-martial, number of convictions and total periods of imprisonment or detention awarded; and district courts-martial, number of convictions and total periods of imprisonment or detention awarded?

I would refer the hon. and gallant Member to the particulars of courts-martial included in the General Annual Report for 1923. I am about to lay this report on the Table, and copies will be available in the course of a few days.

King's Royal Rifle Corps (Actingcorporal Daniels)

asked the Secretary of State for War whether he will have inquiries made into the case of Robert Elijah Daniels, of Braneaster Staithe, King's Lynn, late No. 6,839,696, acting corporal, King's Royal Rifle Corps, who was discharged on 9th January, 1923, after five years' service, suffering from malaria; if he is aware that pension has been refused by the Commissioners of the Royal Hospital, Chelsea, on the grounds that Daniels is not suffering from malaria, although the man's medical attendant certified on 9th August this year that this man had been under his care on several occasions suffering from undoubted attacks of malarial fever; and, in view of the dissatisfaction which has been caused by the decision of his Department in this instance, will he consider instituting an appeal in cases of this description to an independent tribunal?

This soldier was not invalided from the Army, but was discharged in consequence of reduction of establishment on 9th January, 1923. He afterwards claimed a disability pension in respect of malaria, stated to have been contracted in India, and was examined by a medical board in July, 1923. The medical board, from whose opinion the medical authorities at the War Office see no reason to differ, found that he was suffering from malaria, but that the degree of disablement was less than 20 per cent. This degree of disability is not sufficient for the grant of disability pensions to ex-soldiers, and no exception can be made in favour of Mr. Daniels. The question of establishing an independent tribunal to deal with appeals of this nature has been fully considered, but I am satisfied that the interests of the soldier are fully protected under the existing procedure.

India

Criminal Law Amendment Bill

asked the Under-Secretary of State for India what course the Government intends to pursue in view of the passing by the legislative assembly of a Bill repealing the Criminal Law Amendment Act of 1908?

The Bill in question passed only one of the two Chambers before the Legislature adjourned. No question therefore of action by His Majesty's Government arises at present.

British Troops (Disturbances)

asked they Under-Secretary of State for India whether his attention has been called to the fact that the district magistrate of Shahjahanpur has now been compelled to apply for British troops to quell the Hindoo-Moslem disturbances at that place, and that the reduction of 18,000 British troops below the pre-War figure has placed too great a strain on the ability of the military authorities in India to meet all the demands made on them for assistance in suppressing internal disturbances; and whether the question of the reductions in the strength of the British garrison in India will now be brought up for reconsideration by the Defence Committee and the authorities concerned?

The answer to the first part of the question is in the affirmative. The Secretary of State does not accept as a fact the suggestion contained in the second part, which is not supported by any of the information in his possession. The answer to the third part is in the negative.

Bengal Council

asked the Under-Secretary of State for India whether his attention has been drawn to letters recently published purporting to be facsimiles of letters written by ministers of the Bengal Council, which letters indicate the existence of corruption and jobbery in connection with the affairs of the Bengal Council; and whether he proposes to take any action in the matter?

I have seen an Indian newspaper containing what apparently purports to be a copy of a letter from an ex-Minister of the Bengal Government. Mr. Fuzlul Huq, to whom the authorship of the alleged letter is imputed, has, according to Press reports, stated in the Bengal Council that he never wrote any such letter, that the letter is not genuine, and that it purports to be addressed to a gentleman who does not exist.

Indian Service Military Pensions

asked the Under-Secretary of State for India if he is aware that the pensions of Indian service officers enjoy a smaller increase in respect of increased cost of living than those of British service officers as compared with 1919; and whether it is intended to place both services on the same footing in this respect?

In considering the reduction of Indian service military pensions my Noble Friend is taking account of the fact that the increase in 1919 on account of the Cost of living was not uniformly the same for both services.

Royal Indian Marine

asked the Under-Secretary of State for India if his attention has been called to the plight of the Royal Indian Marine; and what decision the Government of India has arrived at regarding the reorganisation of the Royal Indian Marine on a combatant basis?

Consideration of the future of the Royal Indian Marine is proceeding, but has not yet reached a stage at which any decision can be announced.

Troops In Waziristan (Casualties And Field Service Concessions)

asked the Under-Secretary of State for India whether his attention has been called to the return of casualties in Waziristan during July last giving the list of officers, non-commissioned officers and men killed in action and died of wounds, etc.; and whether the Government of India have now reconsidered the question of withdrawing the field-service concessions from the troops in Waziristan under which they have hitherto been serving?

The answer to the first part of the question is in the affirmative. As regards the second part, an inquiry has been addressed to the Government of India and my Noble Friend will consider the matter on receipt of their reply.

Indian Legislative Assembly

asked the Under-Secretary of State for India whether, considering that the Indian Legislative Assembly has definitely shown itself opposed to cooperation and without the sense of responsibility as required by the Preamble to the Government of India Act, and has done its best to wreck the reforms, the Viceroy will now suspend the Assembly sine die and govern the country without it?

The Governor-General of India has not indicated any disposition to take this course.

Gold Imports

asked the Under-Secretary of State for India the amount of gold that India has bought in Britain in 1924, and also the amount that India has bought in New York in 1924?

Figures distributing Indian gold imports among countries of origin are available only for the first seven months, January to July, of 1924. During this period of gold imports valued at approximately Rs. 17 crores, the value of the imports from the United Kingdom and Natal* was Rs. 11¾ crores, approximately. During the same period no gold was imported into India from the United States.

* The Natal figures are included as it is understood that South African gold is bought through London.

August imports of gold (the latest month for which statistics are available), amounted to Rs. 4 crores, but, as explained above, the details of distribution among countries are not yet to hand. It is understood that some gold was bought for India in New York a few weeks ago, but details are not yet available. The above figures concern imports on private account, no Government purchases having been made in the period.

Rupee Loan

asked the Under-Secretary of State for India if the full amount of 15 crores was subscribed to the last rupee loan?

Naval And Military Pensions And Grants

Widows' Pensions

asked the Minister of Pensions whether it is the practice of the Ministry, in the event of the widow of an officer or man being granted a pension by reason of the death of her husband as a consequence of his War service, to pay such pension from the day after the death of the husband; and, if not, whether he will take steps to secure that pension so granted shall be payable from that date in future?

It is the general rule of the Department to award pension from the date of application. An exception is, however, made in favour of widows and dependants, and in these cases, if application is made within two months of the death, the award takes effect from the date of death. If the hon. and gallant Member has any particular case in mind in which the general rule appears to have worked harshly in exceptional circumstances, my right hon. Friend will be happy to give it his personal consideration.

Gratuity On Cessation Of Pension

asked the Minister of Pensions whether the award of a gratuity under Article 22 of the Royal Warrant is held by the Ministry of Pensions to preclude a dependant whose circumstances may subsequently become less favourable from applying for the issue of a pension at a later date; and, if so, why such a view is held?

The answer to the first part of the question is in the affirmative. The terms of Article 22 define the gratuity which is payable on the cessation of pension as final, and the Article has been consistently administered on this basis.

Transport

Railway Services (Alterations)

asked the Minister of Transport if his attention has been called to the inconvenience caused to travellers by the cancellation of train services in the middle of the month without any notice in official time-tables; and if he could consult the railway companies as to the possibility of giving notice of intended alterations in time for an earlier publication of railway time-tables?

I am not clear to what particular circumstances the right hon. Gentleman refers. So far as the substitution of the winter railway services for the summer services is concerned, I understand that due notice of the proposed alteration in the time-tables was given by the railway companies.

Road Improvement Scheme, Hythe

asked the Secretary of State for War whether he is aware that at the main London to Folkestone road, at the Small Arms Schools, Hythe, there is a very dangerous blind corner at the foot of Barrack Hill caused by a wall seven feet high surrounding the adjutant's grounds; whether he is aware that several accidents have occurred at that corner, and that the War Office has not acceded to the request of the local authority to have permission to remove the wall and take sufficient ground to straighten the road; and whether, in view of the fact that the ground required by the local authority for that purpose is very little and of no military value, and the proposed improvements would provide work for those who would otherwise be unemployed, he will immediately grant the land required for the improvement to the local authority, or, alternatively, whether he will immediately cause the wall which constitutes the chief danger to be replaced by a railing?

I am having enquiries made, and will communicate further with the hon. Member.

Arterial Roads (Building Line)

asked the Minister of Transport if he has yet ascertained what additional powers he requires to enable him to ensure the general prescription of adequate building lines so that the future widening of arterial roads may be possible as it becomes necessary?

I am aware what additional powers are necessary to secure the very desirable results at which the hon. and gallant Member aims, and I hope it may be possible to frame generally acceptable clauses which could be embodied in any future highway legislation of a general character.

Road Vehicles (Lighting)

asked the Minister of Transport when he proposes to introduce amending legislation with regard to the lighting of road vehicles?

I am afraid I am not in a position to state when it will be possible to introduce a Bill dealing with the lighting of road vehicles.

Motor Vehicles (Reflecting Mirrors)

asked the Minister of Transport if he is in a position to state whether the Committee appointed to consider the regulation of road traffic has made any Report relative to the carrying of reflecting mirrors by all motor vehicles being made compulsory?

The Departmental Committee on the Taxation and Regulation of Road Vehicles in their Second Interim Report recommended that if the driver of a vehicle is prevented by reason of the construction, condition or use of the vehicle from readily hearing the signals of vehicles overtaking him, then the vehicle should be provided with either a sound receiver and transmitter or with a suitable reflecting mirror. As I have already stated in answer to previous questions, I am awaiting a suitable opportunity to introduce legislation giving effect to many of the recommendations of the Committee.

Springhead Locomotive Works

asked the Minister of Transport whether he has been able to secure from the railway company concerned any modification of the order for the closing down of the Springhead locomotive works?

I would refer the hon. Member to the answer, of which I am sending him a copy, to the question upon this subject asked by the hon. and gallant Member for Central Hull (Lieut.-Commander Kenworthy) on the 29th July.

Railway Works, Scotland

asked the Minister of Transport whether his attention has been drawn to the threatened closing down of railway works in Scotland and the transfer of the work previously done there to England; whether any intimation was given to him of such action; and whether he can put Section 9 of the Railways Act, 1921, in operation to stop these actions of the railway companies?

I understand that some of the railway companies are considering the possibility of securing economies by some re-arrangement of their manufacturing and repairing work, but no case has been brought to my notice affecting Scotland. The Section of the Railways Act to which my hon. Friend refers would not appear to have any bearing on this matter.

Road Repairs, London

asked the Minister of Transport what steps have been taken to set up the London traffic authority; whether he will direct their attention to repair work being carried on along the north side of Clapham Common; whether he is aware that these repairs to under a mile of road surface have taken five months so far and are still far from completion; and whether he will take steps to see that, in future, all road repairs are proceeded with as rapidly as possible in the London traffic area?

All possible steps have been taken to set up the London Traffic Committee. As the Noble Lord is aware Parliament, when the Bill was before them, decided on the introduction of special machinery for the nomination of representatives on the Committee, and these nominations cannot be completed until after the 27th November. The repair works to which the Noble Lord refers in the latter part of his question were, I am informed, commenced on the 10th June last and will be completed about the end of this month. I am assured that the works in question are being carried out with all reasonable despatch. I am as anxious as the Noble Lord that road repairs in the London traffic area should be carried out as expeditiously as practicable, and when the Committee get to work road repairs to important thoroughfares will be subject to the provisions of Section 4 of the Act.

Omnibuses (Top-Deck Covers)

asked the Minister of Transport whether the Departmental Committee on the taxation and regulation of road vehicles has yet made its report on the subject of top-deck covers for omnibuses; and, if not, whether, in view of the inconvenience caused to the public who are compelled to travel on the outside of omnibuses on wet days, the Regulations governing motor omnibuses plying for hire within the Metropolitan police district can be waived so as to permit of licences being granted for experimental purposes, and for a given period only, for five or more omnibuses to ply for hire after having been fitted with a form of top-dock cover approved by his Department?

I have not yet received the report of the Departmental Committee on the Regulation of Hackney Vehicles upon the subject of top-deck covers for omnibuses, but the Committee are meeting at an early date to consider this subject, and I hope to receive a report thereon in the near future. Before experimenting in the crowded streets of London it seems to me desirable to await the conclusions of the Committee.

New Road, Walton-On-Naze

asked the Minister of Transport what was the estimated cost of the new road from Walton-on-Naze to Frinton station; by whom was the cost to be paid and in what amounts what sum has been expended up to date; whether the road is in a derelict condition; if it is proposed to complete it; and what would have been the cost to widen and complete the old road?

I have been asked to reply. The estimated cost of the road referred to by the hon. Member was £2,000, to be financed by loan in respect of which the Unemployment Grants Committee had promised 65 per cent. of the interest and sinking fund charges for half the term of the loan, i.e., for 10 yeas. It is understood that the Essex County Council are to contribute a sum not exceeding 25 per cent. of the total cost, the balance being found by the Walton-on-Naze Urban District Council. Up to the 31st March last £4,785 had been expended. I understand that no work has been done since the beginning of the year owing, mainly, to difficulties which have arisen between the district council and the contractor. New tenders have been invited and are now under consideration. I have no information on the last point raised by the hon. Member.

Motor Drivers (Convictions)

asked the Home Secretary whether his attention has been called to the unequal sentences passed on those convicted of being drunk whilst in charge of motor cars; and whether he is prepared to take the necessary legislative steps to ensure that, in case of conviction for this offence, the driving licence held by the offender shall be automatically withdrawn?

I am aware that the sentences passed for this offence vary greatly. This is inevitable if due regard is paid to the varying circumstances of the individual cases, and while I agree that the stringent exercise of existing powers in serious cases is very desirable, I should not be in favour of making the withdrawal of an offender's licence a necessary consequence of a conviction in every case.

Street Accidents, Shoreditch

asked the Home Secretary the number of street accidents resulting either in death or injury to persons which have occurred during the last 12 months at the junction of Mintern Street and New North Road, Shoreditch?

Return of accidents at junction of New North Road and Mintern Street during year 1st October, 1923, to 30th September 1924.
Date.Time.Place.Particulars.Serious or Slight.Remarks.
1923. 7th Oct.1.53 p.m.Junction of New North Road and Mintern Street.Horse shied, turning over coffee stall.SlightMan, age 62.
30th Nov.7.15 p.m.Opposite No. 2 Mintern StreetWoman, age 56, knocked down by motor carSlight
1924. 27th Feb.9 a.m.Junction of New North Road and Mintern Street.Collision, tramcar and cycle.SlightBoy, age 16.
19th April7.5 a.m.Junction of New North Road and Mintern Street.Man knocked down by pedal cycle.SlightAge 64.
27th July9.20 p.m.Junction of New North Road and Mintern Street.Collision between two cycles.SeriousBoy, age 17.
27th Aug.8.30 a.m.Junction of New North Road and Mintern Street.Collision, horsed van and builder's truckSlightMan, age 55.
24th Sept.7.10 p.m.Opposite 119 New North RoadCollision, motor car and pedal cycle.SlightMan, age 25.
1923. 22nd Oct.1.2 p.m.Opposite 117 New North RoadCollision, motor car and two pedal cycles.SeriousBoy, age 15.

Scotland

Rating Assessment

asked the Secretary for Scotland whether his attention has been called to the decision in the Court of Session. Edinburgh, of the 8th August last in the action of suspension and interdict at the instance of the Etna Iron and Steel Company, Limited, v. Alex. Bryden, collector of parish council rates for the parish of Dalziel, and where the Court decerned that under the 37th Section of the Poor Law (Scotland) Act, 1845, the complainer's works, entered in the valuation roll at an annual rental of £1,396, were entitled to a deduction from the said rental of £4,653 13s. 6d., or, in other words, had no assessable value and were not liable to be rated for the support of the poor, education, and other charges leviable by the parish council of the parish; and what steps he proposes to take to have this Section of the Poor Law (Scotland) Act repealed or amended, so that the whole burden of Poor Law relief and charges for education may not be thrown back on the owners and occupiers of house property only?

My attention has been called to the case referred to in which the conclusion of the Court was substantially as stated. The question of the repeal or amendment of Section 37 of the Act of 1845 will require to be considered in connection with any general measure of rating reform.

Sexual Offences

asked the Secretary for Scotland whether he is now prepared to set up a Committee to inquire into the question of assaults and other sexual offences committed against children in Scotland?

I am considering the question whether such a Committee of Inquiry should be appointed, but I am not at present in a position to make any statement on the subject. Before reaching a decision, I shall carefully consider a memorandum which was recently sent to me by the noble lady.

Prisoners (Release)

asked the Secretary for Scotland (1) whether, seeing that it has hitherto been the practice to consult the Prison Commissioners on all questions of liberation of prisoners before the completion of their sentences, he will say whether the Commissioners were consulted before the liberation of John McVey and Joseph Trainer, who were each sentenced to 15 years' penal servitude at the High Court of Justiciary in Edinburgh on 31st January, 1919, for forging and uttering Treasury notes, and were released after serving 5½ years of their term of imprisonment; whether the Commissioners were aware of the fact that it was proved in evidence at the trial that these two men visited Lanarkshire mining villages on Saturday afternoons and evenings and during busy hours passed bogus notes for small purchases and, further, that McVey had in his house a plate for making forgeries and uttering Treasury notes; whether any representations, written or oral, were made for their release; and what were the reasons for which their liberation was ordered;(2) whether any liberations of prisoners before the completion of their sentences have been granted without consultation with the Prison Commissioners since the present Government assumed office; and, if so, how many?

I think that the assumption upon which the two questions proceed is based upon a misapprehension. It is not the practice to consult the Prison Commissioners on questions of the liberation of prisoners. The Commissioners are only consulted where questions of health or other special circumstances coming within their purview are involved. During my tenure of office there have been 15 eases of special liberation (including those of McVey and Trainer) in which occasion for reports by the Prison Commissioners did not occur and one case in which such occasion did occur. For the reasons which have given the extent to which the Prison Commissioners were aware of the, evidence given at the trial of McVey and Trainer is not material. A petition in favour of the release of McVey and Trainer was sent to me last March, and after full consideration I felt justified in advising that the men should be released on licence after serving 5½ years. I would remind the hon. Member that it would be contrary to practice to state the grounds on which the prerogative of mercy is exercised in any case but my decision was only reached after very carefully considering all the circumstances.

Register Of Sasines (Clerks)

asked the Secretary for Scotland the number of clerks in the Register of Sasines who are qualified solicitors; and whether any of those engage in private practice?

There are 29 solicitors employed as clerks in the Sasine Office. I am informed that three of these take out the annual licence which is required to enable them to practise, but I am not aware of the extent to which they actually practise.

Deputy Procurator Fiscal, Hamilton

asked the Secretary for Scotland if he is aware that Mr. Robinson, solicitor, has been appointed temporarily for 12 months, which becomes permanent, to the procurator fiscal staff at Hamilton Sheriff Court, over the heads of much older solicitors and others; and will he inquire into the circumstances of this case?

I have made inquiry regarding the recent deputation granted to Mr. John Young Robertson to act as Depute Procurator Fiscal at Hamilton, which is presumably the appointment to which the hon. Al ember refers. The deputation was granted by the Procurator Fiscal with the consent of the Lord Advocate under Section 24 of the Sheriff Courts (Scotland) Act, 1907, is for 12 months, and does not become permanent. The holder is not required to give his whole time to the duties of the office, which is remunerated out of an allowance of £3 per week made to the Procurator Fiscal. I have no reason to believe that Mr. Robertson was preferred to much older solicitors or others whose services could have been commanded by the remuneration available, or that Mr. Robertson is not in every way qualified to discharge the duties of the office.

Board Of Health (Office Accommodation)

asked the, Secretary for Scotland whether he is aware of the complaints of the staff of the Scottish Board of Health with regard to the premises in which the Department is housed in Prince's Street, Edinburgh; that this Departmental building was an old hotel and quite unsuitable as offices; that in one room there is little or no ventilation or heating; and that several rooms are uninhabitable at times in consequence of smoke; and whether he will cause an in- vestigation to be made into the grievances of the staff with a view to remedial action?

I have been asked to reply to this question. I am aware that complaints have been made that certain of the rooms in the rear portion of premises occupied by the Scottish Board of Health in Prince's Street, Edinburgh, are defective in ventilation and heating, and arrangements are now in progress which will, I trust, improve the conditions now obtaining.

Royal Navy

Writers, "Queen Elizabeth" (Accommodation)

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Admiralty if, in view of the fact that the admiral's writers' office of the "Queen Elizabeth" is situated on the water-line above the Propellers, that the mess of the writers on the admiral's staff has no natural light or open ventilation, and that these ratings have had to work excessive hours beyond ordinary working periods, he will call for further reports regarding the suitability of the conditions under which these writer ratings have to work, especially after a number of hours at sea in bad weather, when the ports cannot he opened in the office space; and will he also investigate the office and living spaces of the other flagships employed on the Mediterranean station with a view to doing everything within reason to provide healthy working and living spaces for writers?

The question of the accommodation of the writers in the Admiral's office in H.M.S. "Queen Elizabeth" has recently been the subject of investigation and reports, and the question of possible improvements is still under consideration. No useful purpose would therefore be served by calling for fresh reports. As regards the second part of the question, particulars of office accommodation in other flagships on the Mediterranean station is already available, and samples of air from offices and other spaces in different ships are taken for test periodically. I must not be understood to agree with the statement that the hours worked by writers in "Queen Elizabeth" are excessive.

Royal Air Force

Missing Officers, Iraq

asked the Under-Secretary of State for Air whether any information has been received with reference to Pilot-officer Stewart and Lieutenant W. S. Day, who were recently lost in the Iraq desert; and what further steps it is proposed to take in order, if possible, to ascertain what has happened to them?

I regret that despite exhaustive search by aircraft, armoured cars, mounted police and some tribal patrols, which continued almost unceasingly for four days following their disappearance, no trace of the two officers could be found, apart from footprints in the immediate vicinity of their aeroplane. This search was finally abandoned on the fourth day. Police and special service officers have since continued to prosecute inquiries in the villages, but no clue has been obtained, and it is feared that the officers have lost their lives. A Court of Inquiry has been held, and its proceedings are now awaited. It is anticipated that these will show that every possible step has been taken to trace the missing officers.

Armament Experimental Station, Isle Of Grain

asked the Under Secretary of State for Air whether it is proposed to close the marine armament experimental establishment in the Isle of Grain; and, if so, whether, in view of the fact that it is an essential station in ease of air raids on London and vital to the defences of the Thames and Medway and the naval yards of Chatham and Sheerness, and also admirably situated for air practice and bombing owing to its proximity to the rivers and the sea, he will consider, before taking any step to close the station, whether it would be more economical to retain it than to remove it, having regard to the expense already incurred?

The establishment referred to has already been closed and the experimental work previously carried out there transferred to other stations. The decision to close the station was reached after careful consideration of all aspects of the question, including those mentioned by the hon. Member.

Education

Interchange Of Teachers (Russia)

asked the President of the Board of Education what protection against political propaganda will be afforded to British children who are to be instructed by teachers from Russia?

Though I have only received an interim report upon the inquiry as to the possibility of interchange of teachers with Russia, I understand that the Soviet Government do not want to send any teachers here at present. In any case, there is no danger of any English schools tolerating political propaganda. I hope it will be possible for a limited number of English teachers to go to

Twelve months ended 31st March, 1924.Six months from 1st April to 2nd October, 1924.
Elementary.Secondary.Elementary.Secondary.
Proposals received954011641
Proposals sanctioned68403836
The proposals which have been received, but not yet sanctioned, during the current year are passing through the normal stages of consideration. The figures relating to secondary schools do not include proposals for the admission of existing schools to the list of grant-earning; secondary schools.

Food Prices

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether food prices are higher than they were a month ago; and what is now the average increase price over the pre-War level so far as food is concerned?

I have been asked to reply. The information received up to the present is not sufficient to enable me to state the average increase in food prices at 1st October over the pre-War level, which is due to be published next week. It is certain, however, that it will be higher than 66, which was the average increase at 1st September.

Russia. This was the principal object of my inquiries, as complaints had been made to me that English teachers, with an adequate knowledge of Russian, are not available for teaching that language effectively.

New Schools

asked the President of the Board of Education how many proposals for new elementary and secondary schools, respectively, have been received by his Department in the current year; how many have been sanctioned; and how these figures compare with 1923–24?

The figures are as follow:what has been the wise in the price of bread since 1st August and 1st, September, respectively and whether he has made any investigations into the causes which have brought about such increase?

The answer to both parts of the question is in the affirmative.The information furnished to the Ministry of Labour shows an average price of bread, per 4 lbs.. in Great Britain of, approximately, 9¼d. at let August and 9½d. at let September. The average price at 1st October will, I am informed, he slightly above that of the previous month, but the particulars at present available are not sufficiently complete to enable the exact figure to be stated. The changes in the price of bread, per 4 lbs., in London, announced since the beginning of 1921 by the Associations of Master Bakers, are shown in the following statement, together with the price of London-made straight-run flour at the same dates as announced by the London Flour Millers' Association. The quoted price on the same dates of a leading variety of imported wheat is added for the purpose of comparison.

Prices of Bread, Flour and Wheat in London.

Dates of changes in price of bread in London.Price of bread per 4 lbs. in London.Price of Lo dou-made straight-run flour per 280 lbs.London Corn Exchange prices for No. 1 Northern Manitoba wheat per 496 lbs., ex ship.
1921.
12th September1s. (reduced from 1s. 1d)63s.*95s. 6d.
7th November10d.56s.†53s., 53s. 6d.
1922.
2nd January9d.46s.55s. 6d.
27th February10d.52s.70s.
26th June9½d.45s. 6d.59s. 3d.
28th August.9d.42s.52s.
1923.
29th October8d.37s. 6d.**47s. 3d.
1924.
18th February8½d.39s. 6d.52s.
7th July9d.41s. 6d.55s.
11th August9½d.48s. 6d.†62s.
6th October10d.51s.††71s. 6d.

* Reduced on following day by 1s.

** Reduced on following day by 6d.

† Reduced on following day by 2s.†† Increased on following day by 2s.

The recent increases in the price of bread are consequent on higher prices for wheat, due to a reduction as compared with the previous crop, in the yields of wheat in the Northern Hemisphere. The supplies will, it is anticipated, be sufficient for the needs of importing countries, though the abundance, which led to the relatively low prices or last year, has disappeared.

asked the President of the Board of Trade (1), if he is aware of the recent advance in the price of bread and other household necessaries, particularly in the case of those dutiable articles of household consumption on which the duty was reduced by the 1924 Budget whether he has information indicating that rings exist with a view to taking advantage of the reduction in duty to advance the price; and if he intends to take any action to deal with the situation thereby created;(2), if he will state the average retail price of tea and sugar, respectively, on the day before the present Government came into office, on the day on which the Budget of 1924 was introduced, and on the 30th September, 1924; whether he has information that the advance in price is due to concerted action by those in a position to create an artificial rise in price; and what action, if any, the Government proposes to take with a view to preventing profiteering in these essentials?

asked the President of the Board of Trade if he will state what were the retail prices of tea on 30th September, and what were, the prices on the 31st of March last?

furnished the following information in continuation of his answer [OFFICIAL REPORT, 2nd October, 1924; cols. 357–8, Vol. 177]:

Retail Food Prices

The annexed tables show:

  • (I) The Ministry of Labour index numbers of average increases in retail food prices for each month of 1924 (July, 1914=100).
  • (II) The prices of tea, sugar and other household necessaries at four large retail businesses (referred to as A, B, C and D) in London at
  • (1) the end of January, 1924 (present Government came into office 22nd January);
  • (2) the 30th April, 1924 (Budget speech, 29th April);
  • (3) the date of the next rise in the price, if any; and
  • (4) the end of September, 1924;
  • together with the average retail prices published in the Ministry of Labour Gazette (where available).

    Table A.

    Ministry of Labour index numbers of average increases in retail food prices (July, 1914 =100).

    1924.
    1st January175
    1st February177
    1st March176
    1st April167
    1st May163
    1st June160
    1st July162
    1st August164
    1st September166

    The corresponding index number for 1st October is not yet available.

    End of January, 1924.30 April, 1924.Next Rise.End of September, 1924.†
    Date.Price.
    Tea, per lb.—
    A2s. 6d.2s. 2d.15 Sept.2s. 4d.2s. 4d.
    B2s. 6d.2s. 2d.No rise2s. 2d.
    C2s. 5d.2s. 1d.No rise2s. 1d.
    D2s. 8d.2s. 4d.No rise2s. 4d.
    Ministry of Labour Gazette2s. 6½d.2s. 3½d.1 Sept.2s. 3½d.2s. 3½d.
    Sugar, Granulated, per lb.—
    A6¾d. & 7d.5½d. & 5¾d.No Rise4¾d. & 5d.
    B7d.5¾d.No rise5d.
    C7d.6d.No rise5d
    D6¾d.5½d.No rise4¾d.
    Ministry of Labour Gazette7d.5¾d.No rise4¾d.
    Sugar, Loaf, per lb.—
    A7½d.6¼d.No rise5½d.
    B7½d.6¼d.No rise5½d.
    C7½d.6¾d.No rise5½d.
    D7¼d.6d.No rise5½d.
    Butter, per lb.—
    A2s. 5d.1s. 10d.5 May2s. 1d.2s. 5d.
    B2s. 3d.April 22, 1s. 10d.; May 5, 2s19 May2s. 2d.2s. 3d.
    C2s. 3d. 2s. 4d.1s. 10d.8 May 19 June1s. 11d. 1s. 11d.2s. 2d.
    D1s. 11d.1s. 6d.3 May1s. 8d.1s. 11d.
    Ministry of Labour Gazette2s. 2½d. 2s. 1¼d1s. 10¼d 1s. 9d1 July1s. 10½d. 1s. 9¾2s. 1¾d 2s. 0¾d.
    Margarine, per lb.—
    A9d.9d.No rise9d.
    B9d.9d.No rise9d.
    C8d. & 9d.8d. & 9d.No rise8d. & 9d.
    D6d.6d.No rise6d.
    Ministry of Labour Gazette6¾d.6¾d.No rise6¾d.

    Table B.

    Retail prices of certain commodities at four large retail businesses in London, together with the average retail prices published in the Ministry of Labour Gazette (where available) at the dates specified.

    For particulars as to the retail prices of bread, reference should be made to the answer given to-day by the President of the Board of Trade to the hon. Member for Woolwich (Sir Kingsley Wood).

    It will be seen that the retail prices at the end of September show a reduction as compared with those at the end of January in the case of tea, sugar, coffee and cocoa; that there is little or no change in the case of butter, margarine, cheese, rice, oatmeal, currants and sultanas; and that a rise has occurred in the price of flour and bread. As corn-pared with the prices on 30th April, tea and coffee prices show, by 30th September, a slight advance in some cases, and sugar a substantial reduction.

    End of January, 1924.30 April, 1924.Next Rise.End of September, 1924.†
    Date.Price.
    Cheese, Colonial, per lb.—
    A1s. 1d.11d.3 June1s.1s. 1d.
    1s. 4d.1s. 4d.1s. 4d.
    B1s 4d.1s 2dNo rise1s. 2d.
    C11s. 2d. & 1s. 4d.1s. & 1s. 4d.19 June1s. 1d. & 1s. 4d.11s. 2d. & 1s. 4d.
    1s. 1d.10 July1s. 2d.1s. 2d.
    D1s.1ld.18 June1s.1s.

    *Ministry of Labour Gazette

    1s. 3½d.1s. 1¼d.1 Sept.1s. 1½d.1s. 1½d.
    Cocoa, Pure, per lb.—
    A2s.1s. 10½d.No rise1s. 10½d.
    B2s. 3d.1s. 8½d.No rise1s. 8½d.
    C2s. 2d.2s. 0½d.No rise2s. 0½d.
    D1s. 10d.1s. 10d.No rise1s. 8d.
    Coffee, Pure, per lb.—
    A2s.2s. 0½d.1 June2s. 2d.2s. 2d.
    B2s.1s. 10½d.No rise1s. 10½d.
    C2s.1s. 10½d.August1s. 11d.1s. 11d.
    D1s. 10d.1s. 10d.No rise1s. 8d.
    Flour, per 7 lbs.—
    A1s. 1½d.1s. 2½d.August1s. 3½d.1s. 5d.
    C1s. 1½d.1s. 1½d.1s. 3½d.
    1s. 2½d.1s. 3½d.17 July1s. 4½d.1s. 4½d.
    D (per quartern)8d.8½d.9 July9d.9½d.
    Ministry of Labour Gazette Rice, per lb.—1s. 2¾d.1s. 3d.1 July1s. 3¼d.1s. 5d.
    A2½d. & 3½d.2½d. & 3½d.No rise.2½d. & 3½d
    B2½d.2½d.No rise2½d
    C2½d.2½d.No rise2½d.
    D5d.5d.11 Aug.6d.6d.
    Oatmeal, per lb.—
    A2¾d.2¾d.No rise.2¾d
    B3d.3d.No rise3d
    C3d.3d.No rise3½d.
    D3½d.3½d.No rise3½d
    Currants per lb:—
    A7d., 8d. & 10d.7d., 8d. & 10d.No quotations.
    B7d., 8d., 9d. & 10d.7d., 8d., 9d. & 10d.No rise7d., 8d., 9d. & 10d.
    C6d., 9d., & 10½d.7d., 10d. & 11d.No rise6½d., 9d. & 10½d.
    D8d.8d.No rise8d.
    Sultanas per lb.:—
    A8d., 10d. & 1s.8d., 10d. & 1s. 1d.No rise8d., 10d. & 11d.
    B8d., 10d., 11d., & 1s.9d., 10d., lid. & 1s.No rise7d., 8d., 9d. & 10d.
    C8d., 10d. & 1s.10d., 1s. & 1s. 3d.No rise9d., 10½d. & 1s. 1d.
    D8d.8d.No rise8d.
    † The Ministry of Labour prices given in this column are for 1st September.

    * The description of cheese specified by the Ministry of Labour for quotation is Canadian or American, but where such cheese is seldom sold in a locality the returns quote the price of another kind locally representative.

    Enemy Action Claims

    asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he is now in a position to state when payment will be made of the belated claims for suffering and damage by enemy action?

    asked the President of the Board of Trade (1) if he is aware that numbers of belated claimants have not yet received any intimation about the success or failure of their claims for reparation from the Royal Commission; and whether he can name a date by which all the belated claims will have been settled;(2) if he is aware that, in spite of the publicity afforded by his Department, there are still a number of persons who have genuine cases of damage done to them by enemy action whose claims have not been sent in in time, and therefore cannot be entertained; and whether, he will take the necessary steps to allow all genuine claims to be examined and to obtain from Parliament the funds necessary to settle these claims with justice?

    asked the President of the Board of Trade when it is expected that payments will be made in respect of reparation claims from the solatium of £300,000?

    Every endeavour is being made to complete the examination of the claims within the period already indicated to the House, namely, by the end of the first week of November. When this work is completed, the payment of claims will be promptly begun. Where claimants are considered unlikely to have any valid claims against the fund, they are so informed; but it is not proposed to communicate with claimants whose claims have been admitted until the time for payment arrives. I regret that, as has already been frequently stated in this House, it is not possible to consider any claim which was not lodged with the Reparation Claims Department by the 1st June last.

    asked the President of the Board of Trade how many belated claims of victims of enemy damage who are members of the mercantile marine yet remain unsatisfied?

    I may point out that members of the mercantile marine who suffered by enemy action have already been compensated to an extent which will amount in all to something like 11,000,000 sterling. 22,057 merchant seamen, fishermen and dependants of such persons, have notified possible claims (in the belated category) under the Reparation Scheme, in addition to what they have already received; and to all of these the proper forms for furnishing particulars of damage have been sent. 2,920 of these persons have not yet returned the forms or furnished the particulars of damage necesary for such claims to be dealt with. Payment cannot be made in respect of belated reparation claims to any claimants till the claims have been examined. Every endeavour is being made to complete this work within the period already indicated to the House, namely, the end of the first week in November. When the work is completed the payment of claims will be promptly begun.

    asked the President of the Board of Trade (1) whether, in view of the fact that many seamen having claims for loss through enemy action have been unable to put in their claims to the Reparations Department by the 1st June owing to absence at sea or overseas when the notices to send in claims were published, the Board of Trade will allow an extended period for sending in claims in such cases;(2) when it is proposed to make a distribution of the £300,000 in respect of the belated reparations claims; and whether he will expedite the distribution as much as possible in view of the distressed condition of many of the claimants who are seamen and dependants, of seamen?

    I would refer to the answer which I am giving to-day to the hon. Members for the Kirkdale division of Liverpool (Sir J. Pennefather), Kingston-upon-Hull East (Mr. Lumley) and Birkenhead East (Mr. G. White), a copy of which I am sending to the hon. and learned Member. I would further point out that the War risks compensation scheme and the other special War schemes for merchant seamen have been charged with payment of compensation which will amount in all to something like £11,000,000, and that the £300,000 is merely in respect of belated claims under one of these schemes.

    British Dyestuffs Corporation

    asked the President of the Board of Trade if he is in a position to make a statement with regard to the proposed agreement between the Interessen Gemeinschaft and the British Dyestuffs Corporation?

    Yes, Sir. The Board of the British Dyestuffs Corporation have been informed that the Government would feel compelled to exercise their power of veto with respect to an agreement with the Interessen Gemeinschaft on the lines suggested.

    Merchant Service (Discipline)

    asked the President of the Board of Trade if he is now in a position to state whether he is prepared to accede to the suggestion made to him that he will appoint a small Committee representing the different interests concerned to go into the question of discipline in the merchant service and, if necessary, to report to the Board of Trade?

    My information is to the effect that, on the whole, discipline in the merchant service is getting better rather than worse, and that a good deal of such difficulty as exists is due to the fact that masters frequently omit to use the means they have at present, in the way of prosecuting and giving bad discharges. I am, therefore, somewhat doubtful whether a Committee can do much real good, but if the associations representing the interests concerned consider that a Committee on discipline would serve a useful purpose, and so inform the Board of Trade, I should be willing to appoint a Committee.

    Enemy Debts (Payments)

    asked the President of the Board of Trade whether it is intended to make an immediate further distribution of at least 5s. in the £ by the Enemy Debts Department, as recently recommended by the Select Committee on Estimates?

    A further dividend of 7s. 6d. in the £ was paid by the Clearing Office on the 8th July on awards under Article 297 (e) of the Treaty of Versailles, making a total distribution up to date of 15s. in the £. All awards of £50 and under have been paid in full.

    Carriage Of Goods By Sea Act

    asked the President of the Board of Trade what other countries have adopted the provisions of the Convention of Brussels (October, 1922); whether it is proposed to defer the coming into operation of the Carriage of Goods by Sea Act, 1924, until other countries have adopted its provisions; and, if not, on what date it is proposed that the Act shall become operative?

    So far as I am aware, no other countries have yet adopted the provisions of the Convention on Bills of Lading. Arrangements are being made to bring the Carriage of Goods by Sea Act into operation on the 1st January, 1925.

    Loss Of Ss "Nunnington"

    asked the President of the Board of Trade whether his attention has been drawn to the report of the Court which investigated the loss with all hands of the s.s. "Nunnington," where it has been found that the vessel left Swansea on the 11th April last in improper trim, overloaded, and of insufficient stability; why, having regard to its importance, the Board of Trade did not cause the owner to be made a party to this inquiry; whether at any time prior to her loss the vessel was surveyed by Board of Trade surveyors; if so, can he state the nature of their reports; whether they reported that no data was provided for those on board as regards the stability of the vessel; and whether, as the Court states that the form of the "Nunnington" was similar to most vessels of her type, the Board of Trade intend to act upon the recommendation of the Court that no vessel should leave any British shipyard and go in service unless and until the vessel has been proved to have sufficient stability for the intended trading, and that those who have responsibility in the matter should be in possession of simple and clear data to enable them to provide for sufficient stability for all possible light and loaded conditions?

    The Board of Trade have now under consideration the report of the Court of Inquiry into the circumstances attending the loss of the steamship "Nunnington." On the information available at the time when the inquiry was ordered, there was not sufficient reason for making the owner a party to the inquiry, the primary object of the inquiry being to establish the cause of the loss of the vessel, with a view to preventing similar occurrences in future. The vessel was seen by the Board of Trade surveyors on three occasions, namely, in November, 1920, August, 1922, and December, 1923. On each of these occasions the life-saving appliances and lights were inspected and found satisfactory. In August, 1922, the vessel was detained for being overladen, and in December, 1923, certain repairs to the hull, necessitated by the vessel having been aground, were seen and found satisfactory. No report was received by the Board of Trade to the effect that no data were provided for the use of those on board regarding the stability of the vessel. The important general questions raised by this report and the recommendations of the Court on the subject of stability are being carefully considered by the Board.

    Trade And Commerce

    Germany

    asked the President of the Board of Trade whether most-favoured-nation treatment has been arranged for the goods of Great Britain to be exported to Germany?

    Month of 1924.Imports consigned from Russia.Exports consigned to Russia.
    United Kingdom Merchandise.Foreign and Colonial Merchandise.
    £££
    January1,217,30894,395367,571
    February562,468171,84362,870
    March483,69842,358246,693
    April877,67488,114281,141
    May771,700144,209247,779
    June677,923122,6121,558,623
    July3,032,614454,4111,814,432
    August2,971,598239,841595,480
    Since I furnished particulars for the earlier months of the year, in reply to previous questions on 30th April and 24th June, the figures have undergone some correction, and they are still liable to some adjustment on final examination of the returns.

    asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Overseas Trade Department (1) the yardage of cloth exported to Russia in 1913 and 1923, respectively;(2) the quantity of boots and shoes exported to Russia in 1913 and 1923, respectively;

    The Clauses in the Treaty of Versailles under which we receive most-favoured-nation treatment, apart from special privileges accorded to Alsace and Lorraine and to Luxemburg, cease to have effect on 10th January next, but negotiations are in progress for the conclusion of a Treaty of Commerce and Navigation with Germany, one object of which will be to safeguard British trade in this matter, and in this connection I am in consultation with British industrial and commercial interests.

    Russia

    asked the President of the Board of Trade the amount of trade that has been done with Russia for the months of July and August?

    The following statement shows the declared values of the merchandise imported into and exported and re-exported from Great Britain and Northern Ireland, registered as consigned from or to Russia in each of the first eight months of 1924:(3) the quantity of rage and flax imported from Russia in 1913 and 1923, respectively?

    The following statement gives the information desired by the hon. Member, so far as the particulars are available. In view of territorial changes, the corresponding figures in respect of the Succession States have been added in order to preserve comparability as far as possible.

    EXPORTS OF CLOTH.

    Exports (United Kingdom Manufacture) registered as consigned to the territories named during the years specified.

    Linear Yards.Equivalent in Square Yards.
    (a) Cotton Piece Goods:
    In 1913—To Russia3,903,300
    In 1923—To Russia108,500128,100
    To Succession States, except Poland14,708,80013,703,000
    To Poland (including Dantzic)3,965,4003,827,200
    (b) Woollen and Worsted Tissues, etc.:Linear Yards.Square Yards.
    In 1913—To Russia894,900
    In 1923—To Russia12,200
    To Succession States (except Poland)1,806,400
    To Poland (including Dantzic)416,300
    (c) Silk Manufactures—Piece Goods wholly of Silk:Linear Yards.Square Yards.
    In 1913—To Russia11,995
    In 1923—To Russia60
    To Succession States (except Poland)4,054
    To Poland (including Dantzic)2,272
    (d) Silk Manufactures—Piece Goods of Silk mixed with other Materials (if known as silks):Linear Yards.Square Yards.
    In 1913—To Russia13,723
    In 1923—To Russia
    To Succession States (except Poland)1,625
    To Poland (including Dantzic)1,045
    (e) Linen Piece Goods:Linear Yards.Square Yards.
    In 1913—To Russia225,500
    In 1923—To Russia1,600
    To Succession States (except Poland)62,200
    To Poland (including Dantzic)11,500
    (f) Jute Piece Goods:
    In 1913—To Russia2,740,900
    In 1923—To Russia3,500
    To Succession States (except Poland)2,164,900
    To Poland (including Dantzic)111,900
    EXPORTS OF BOOTS AND SHOES.
    (g) Boots and Shoes—Of Leather:Doz. Prs.Doz. Prs.
    In 1913—To Russia1,583
    In 1923—To Russia490
    To Succession States (except Poland)75
    To Poland (including Dantzic)964
    (h) Boots and Shoes—Of Rubber:
    In 1913—To Russia26
    In 1923—To Russia
    To Succession States (except Poland)1,457
    To Poland (including Dantzic)159
    (i) Boots and Shoes—Of Other Materials:
    In 1913—To Russia5
    In 1923—To Russia7
    To Succession States (except Poland)42
    To Poland (including Dantzic)38

    IMPORTS OF RAGS AND FLAX.

    Registered Imports into the United Kingdom during the years 1913 and 1923 of Rags and Flux consigned from Russia and from, territories which were part of the Russian Empire in 1913.

    (a) Woollen Rags:Cwts.Cwts.
    In 1913—From Russia44,333
    In 1923—From Russia8,596
    From Succession States (except Poland)1,198
    From Poland (including Dantzic)2,683
    (b) Cotton and Linen Rags:Tons.Tons.
    In 1913—From Russia103
    In 1923—From Russia138
    From Succession States (except Poland)60
    From Poland (including Dantzic)
    (c) Flax:Tons.Tons.
    In 1913—From Russia68,161
    In 1923—From Russia3,088
    From Succession States (except Poland)13,964
    From Poland (including Dantzic)10
    (d) Flax, Tow or Codilla:Tons.Tons.
    In 1913—From Russia13,416
    In 1923—From Russia1,575
    From Succession States (except Poland)2,222
    From Poland (including Dantzic)10
    NOTE.—Imports (if any) of the above-mentioned commodities into the Irish Free State since 1st April, 1923, are not included.

    asked (1) the President of the Board of Trade if he is in a position to state the amount of purchases made and orders placed in this country on behalf of the Soviet Government during the last nine months; and whether these purchases are being paid for by cash;(2) the Parliamentary Secretary to the Overseas Trade Department the amount and nature of large purchases made abroad by the Soviet Government since the beginning of the year; and whether cash was paid for these purchases?

    I have been asked to reply. According to Board of Trade Returns for the eight months ending 31st August, the exports of British produce and manufactures to Russia amounted to £1,357,783, and re-exports of foreign and colonial produce to £5,343,497—totalling £6,701,280. According to the publication entitled "Russian Information and Review," which is issued by the Trade Delegation of the Soviet Union, purchases were made in the United Kingdom by Arcos, Ltd., to a total of £4,151,305 for the period 1st January to 31st July. These figures do not include the purchases made by other organs of the Soviet Union engaged in Russo-British trade, and they probably comprise articles of foreign as well as of British manufacture. It is understood that some purchases are being paid for by cash while the majority have been made on terms of credit of varying length. I have no information in regard to the purchases referred to in Question 83.

    asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Overseas Trade Department the value of the exports of manufactured goods from this country to Russia during 1913, 1914, 1923, and the first half of 1924; and the figures as to the exports of manufactured goods from Germany to Russia during the same periods?

    The following, statement shows, for each of the periods specified, the declared value of exports of articles of United Kingdom manufacture, classed as "Wholly or mainly manufactured," consigned to the countries named below, so far as particulars are available:

    Period.Country to which consigned.Declared Value.
    £
    1913Russia10,255,028
    1914Russia10,173,776
    1923Russia1,698,232
    Finland2,528,666
    Esthonia561,250
    Latvia752,621
    Lithuania62,498
    Poland (including Dantzig.1,500,333
    1924 (Jan-June)Russia598,727
    FinlandParticulars not available.
    Esthonia
    Latvia
    Lithuania
    Poland (including Dantzig).
    According to German official trade returns the value of manufactured and semi-manufactured goods of domestic production exported to Russia in 1913 amounted to £36,700,000. Similar information for later years has not been published by the German Government.

    Textile Industry (Committee Of Inquiry)

    asked the President of the Board of Trade if he is aware that a representative of the Operative Cotton Spinners' Association sits on the Government Trade Inquiry Committee, but that the Federation of Master Cotton Spinners' Associations is not represented; and will he take steps to make good the omission?

    The hon. Member is under a misapprehension. As I have stated previously, the Committee has not been constituted on a representative basis since such a course would have resulted in an unduly large membership; but the members were invited to serve in their individual capacities. I may add that no fewer than four members out of the total of 19 are closely connected with the textile industry in its various branches; and that among them is the President of the Cotton Spinners' and Manufacturers' Association. The Government are not prepared to enlarge the membership of the Committee.

    Wheat And Flour Imports

    asked the President of the Board of Trade if he will state the average annual imports, in quantities, of wheat and flour (in equivalent weight of grain) from the following countries for the three-year periods 1901–3, 1911–13, and 1921–23, namely, United States of America, Russia, Argentine Republic, British India, Canada, Australia, and all other countries?

    The following statement shows the average annual quantity of wheat and wheat flour (in equivalent weight of grain) imported into the United Kingdom, from the countries specified below, during each of the three-year periods 1901–3, 1911–13, and 1921–23:

    Countries.*Wheat and Wheat Flour (in equivalent weight of grain). Annual Average Imports—Thousand Tons.
    1901–3.1911–13.1921–23.
    United States of America.2,9761,4752,124
    Russia (pre-war and post-war respectively).4415353
    Argentine Republic.451.814749
    British India4871,073261
    Canada5881,2271,518
    Australia174633799
    All other Countries312214118
    Total5,4295,9715,572
    Note.—From 1st April, 1923, particulars of direct imports into the Irish Free State have been excluded from the Trade Returns of the United Kingdom.
    * Countries whence shipped in 1901–3; countries whence consigned in 1911–13 and in 1921–23.

    Steel Imports

    asked the President of the Board of Trade how many tons of steel were imported into the United Kingdom in 1910, 1911, 1912, 1913, 1919, 1920, 1921, 1922, 1923, and for the first eight months of 1924; and what was the value in each case?

    The following statement shows the quantity and declared value of crude steel,* imported into the United Kingdom in each of the periods specified:

    Period.Quantities.Declared Values.
    Tons.£
    1910559,0452,719,333
    1911827,2533,894,859
    1912873,2214,194,827
    1913904,6954,620,499
    191975,9811,475,096
    1920295,6105,947,957
    1921280,0453,259,476
    1922245,5441,865,720
    1923576,9594,232,196
    1924 (Jan.-Aug.)728,1345,568,140
    *Ingots; blooms, billets, and slabs; special steel; sheet bars and tinplat bars.

    Exports

    asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Overseas Trade Depart-

    Year.Country to which consigned.Exports thereto.
    United Kingdom Merchandise.Foreign and Colonial Merchandise.Total.
    £££
    1910Russia12,252,5568,968,17221,220,727
    1911Russia13,512,3158,804,36422,316,679
    1912Russia13,737,9908,003,49621,741,486
    1913Russia18,102,6839,591,27027,693,953
    1919Russia12,993,6854,500,38217,494,067
    1920Russia11,992,0834,841,30016,833,383
    1921Russia2,181,0071,210,2833,391,290
    Latvia521,239425,230946,469
    Lithuania53,5001,34354,843
    Esthonia3,889,633379,3334,268,966
    Finland1,932,003970,4752,902,478
    Poland (including Danzig)*3,002,0281,867,2174,869,245
    1922Russia3,640,624970,4034,611,027
    Latvia1,117,611282,2191,399,830
    Lithuania115,8181,822117,640
    Bsthonia1,029,939356,3711,386,310
    Finland2,761,094707,4903,468,584
    Poland (including Danzig)*2,434,721636,8963,071,617
    1923Russia2,491,65010989,4764,481,126
    Latvia1,501,592366,7591,868,351
    Lithuania216,9671,878218,845
    Esthonia920,710451,1821,371,892
    Finland3,911,101921,8084,832,909
    Poland (including Danzig)*2,721,846973,0433,694,889
    * Separate particulars relating to the part of Poland which was formerly Russian territory are not available.

    Export Credits Scheme

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer the amount which has been collected in premiums for the

  • ment (1) the value of the exports to Latvia in 1923;
  • (2) the value of the exports to Lithuania in 1923;
  • (3) the value of exports to Esthonia in 1923;
  • (4) the value of the exports to Finland in 1923;
  • (5) the value of the exports to Poland in 1923;
  • (6) the value of the exports to Russia in 1910, 1911, 1912, 1913, 1919, 1920, 1921, 1922 and 1923?
  • The following statement shows the value of the export trade of the United Kingdom with the countries, and during the year specified, so far as the particulars are available:insurance of credits approved by the Department of Overseas Trade; what amount of loss on such credits has o actually been incurred: what amounts have been paid by the Treasury; and what amounts are still outstanding on account of such losses?

    With regard to the first part of the question, the amount which has been collected in premia on the guaranteeing of credits up to 30th June last is £91,050 18s. 4d. The total payments made to the 30th June under the Guarantee Scheme in respect of bills which have not been met amounted to £340,889 11s. 8d., whilst recoveries have totalled £188,597 13s. 11d., leaving an amount outstanding of £152,291 17s. 9d. This amount, however, must not be regarded as lost, as further substantial recoveries will certainly be realised.

    Workers' Weekly" (With Drawal Of Prosecution)

    asked the Attorney-General by whom and upon what date he was informed of the statement made in Court by the Treasury Counsel of the reasons for the withdrawal of the prosecution of Mr. Campbell, the editor of the "Workers' Weekly"?

    To the best of my belief, the first time I was informed of the statement made in Court by Treasury Counsel was when I read the speech of Sir John Simon reported in the "Times," which I bought in Brussels.

    asked the Attorney-General under what Statute the prosecution against Mr. Campbell, the editor of the "Workers' Weekly," was commenced; at what date he received the Report from the Director of Public Prosecutions as to the extent of Campbell's responsibility and character; whether the Director ascertained the names of the other persons who were responsible for the conduct and policy of the paper; and upon what date he instructed the Director to withdraw the proceedings?

    The prosecution against Mr. Campbell was commenced under the Statute 37 George 3, Chapter 70. I received the Director's report on the 6th of August. The Director ascertained the names of other persons who might be said to be responsible for the conduct and policy of the paper and it was found that there was not sufficient evidence to prosecute them. I instructed the Director to withdraw the proceedings on the 7th of August.

    Housing

    Government Houses (Evictions)

    asked the First Commissioner of Works how many notifications he has made to the tenants on the Well Hall estate, Eltham, demanding possession of their respective dwelling-houses; how many notices to quit he has served; how many legal proceedings he has commenced; and how many orders for possession he has obtained, respectively, since the 1st day of February last?

    The information asked for is as follows:Demands for Possession—Nil.Notices to Quit—

    Permanent Estate26
    Temporary Estate44
    Legal proceedings have been commenced in respect of 11 houses on the permanent estate and 9 on the temporary estates, the average arrears being £44 for the former and £14 for the latter. Orders for possession were obtained is respect of 11 houses on the permanent estate and 8 on the temporary estates.

    asked the Secretary of State for War how many notifications he has made to the occupants of married quarters at Woolwich demanding possession; how many legal proceedings he has commenced; how many orders for possession he has obtained, respectively, since the 1st day of February last; and whether, in any such cases, alternative accommodation has first been made available to the person and his family he so seeks to dispossess?

    I am having inquiries made, and will communicate further with the hon. Member.

    Parlour And Non-Parlour Houses (Cost)

    asked the Minister of Health the increase in the average cost of a parlour-house since January last?

    Returns from local authorities show that the average costs of parlour houses contracted for by such authorities during each month since January last were as follow:

    Average Cost.
    £
    January445
    February439
    March459
    April443
    May474
    June462
    July494
    August491

    asked the Minister of Health the average price in the London area for parlour and non-parlour houses each month since January last?

    The average prices of non-parlour and parlour houses (including flats) included in contracts let by local authorities in the Metropolitan Police District for each month since January were as follow:

    Average cost per house or flat.
    Non-parlour.Parlour.
    1924.££
    January437473
    February402491
    March468512
    April484597
    May438512
    June493527
    July600
    August510548

    Subsidy (Rural District Councillors)

    asked the Minister of Health whether he has issued an Order that any member of a rural district council who applies for and receives a certificate entitling him to the Government subsidy for a cottage he is erecting cannot hold his position on the council and receive the grant; and, if so, for what reason?

    I have not issued, and have no power to issue, such an Order. The disqualification arises from a provision in the Local Government Act, 1894.

    Sewage Scheme, Kirby Cross (Loan)

    asked the Minister of Health what is the position with regard to the application of the Tendring Hundred Council for permission for a loan for the purposes of sewerage at Kirby Cross; whether, under the scheme of the council, it is proposed to send the sewage effluent along an open ditch through the parish of Frinton; whether he is aware that such proposal is opposed by the inhabitants of Frinton on the ground of the danger to health: what is the result of the negotiations between the Tendring Hundred and Frinton Councils as to the use of the Frinton sewers for the Kirby sewage; and whether he proposes to refuse permission for the loan?

    A loan has not yet been sanctioned. I suggested a conference between the two councils. This has been held, and I have not yet heard further from the rural district council.

    Old Age Pensions

    asked the Minister of Health whether he is aware that old age pensioners are only allowed seven days in which to appeal against the decision of the local committees, and that this is of serious inconvenience to the pensioner as the forms of appeal often take a few days to obtain; and will he extend the time of appeal to not less than 21 days?

    The Regulations provide for an extension to 14 days of the time within which an old age pensioner or a claimant to an old age pension may lodge an appeal against the decision of a pension committee, if it was not reasonably practicable for the appellant to send his notice within seven days. I am not aware of cases in which the prescribed limitation has resulted in hardship.

    Uganda And Kenya (New Works)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies if his attention has been called to the statement of the general manager of the Uganda Railway to the effect that important new developments, both in respect of railways and harbours, are anticipated in Kenya and Uganda; and, if so, what these developments are?

    The works in contemplation in Kenya and Uganda are those indicated in the reply given to the hon. Member for Windsor (Mr. A. Somerville) on the 21st of January, together with certain harbour improvements at Mombasa which are not yet definitely settled. I may add, however, that various improvements to the wharves on Lake Victoria are proposed in order to cope better with the transport of cotton pending the construction of the main railway extension to the Nile. With regard to that extension, I may observe that, for the reason indicated in my reply to the hon. Member for Blackburn on the 4th of August, the construction of the portion in Uganda will be entirely departmental. Tenders will be invited for the construction of the portion in Kenya, The general manager has, it appears, made reference to the contemplated change in the position of the Uganda Railway so as to give legal effect to its separation, decided upon by Lord Milnor, from the Government of Kenya. I hope before long to receive the views of the Governors of Kenya and Uganda as to the form of the legislation required.

    Bechuanaland (White Settlers)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies whether conversations took place between General Hertzog and himself upon the question of the future status of white settlers in Bechuanaland: and whether any and, if so, what conclusions were reached in the matter?

    Yes, a conversation between General Hertzog and myself took place on this question, but I am unable to state any definite conclusion as the matter is one for further conversation.

    Kenya (Masters' And Servants' Ordinance)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies whether the Colonial Office has disallowed the new-Masters' and Servants' Ordinance passed by the Kenya Legislature; if so, on what grounds; and whether any legislation on these lines is to be considered?

    In 1918 the Resident Natives Ordinance was passed to regularise the position of natives living on a European farm by giving a definite tenancy in return for which the tenant worked for wages on the farm. Some difficulty was experienced in giving effect to the labour obligation, and the new Ordinance was passed placing such resident natives under the general Masters' and Servants' Ordinance and requiring the removal of all such resident natives who do not enter into a contract of service under the Masters' and Servants' Ordinance. The new Ordinance appeared to be open to objection in various details, apart from the general principle to which I could not agree, and I felt that I had no option but to advise that His Majesty's power of disallowance should be exercised. The Governor has been so informed, but it has at this same time been made clear that it will be open to him to place before me any suggestions which, on the advice of the Chief Native Commissioner, he may de Sire to make for removing the defects in the operation of the previous Ordinance.

    Coal Industry

    Prices

    asked the Secretary for Mines whether there has been any recent advance in the price of retail coal; whether such advance has been made both by co-operative societies and private traders; and whether he has any proposals to make to Parliament which will enable the domestic consumers to be provided with coal at a price consistent with the costs of production?

    An advance in the retail price of household coal, varying from 1s. 6d. to 2s. 6d. per ton according to quality, was made on the 1st September by coal merchants and co-operative societies trading in the London district. I understand that in some provincial centres prices were advanced on the same date, but I have no definite information about the position outside London. In reply to the last part of the question, I would refer the hon. Member to the answer given to him by the Prime Minister on the 21st July, to which I cannot add anything at present.

    Pits Closed Down

    asked the Secretary for Mines the number of collieries closed down during the last six months; how many men have been thrown out of work in consequence; whether his Department has power to inquire into the reasons for such closing down, to call for the production of books, plans, etc., and to examine the workings of such pits; and is he prepared to recommend that such collieries as are closed down on the ground of unremunerative working should be taken over by the State at scrap prices?

    The number of coal mines closed in the last six months, and still closed, is 213. The total number of men ordinarily employed at those mines is 41,100, but I cannot say how many of them are now unemployed. As regards the latter part of the question, I would refer my hon. Friend to the answer that I gave to the hon. Member for Spennymoor (Mr. Batey) on the 2nd October. I should certainly not be prepared to recommend a scheme of nationalisation that comprised only those collieries which have proved unprofitable under private ownership.

    asked the Minister of Labour how many coal pits have been closed in this country since the beginning of the year; and how many blast furnaces have been closed down the the same period?

    I have been asked to reply. Two hundred and sixty coal mines have been closed since the beginning of the year and not re-opened, while 118 have been either opened or re-opened during the same period. Of those that have closed 173 were small pits employing, on average, 20 persons. Of the remaining 87, 54 closed owing to bad trade. At the end of August, the latest date for which figures are available, there were 31 fewer blast furnaces working than at the beginning of the year.

    asked the Secretary for Mines the number of pits that are closed in Northumberland and Durham?

    At the 27th September, which is the latest date for which information is available in my Depart- ment, 11 pits, normally employing 3,223 wage-earners, were closed in Northumberland and 48 pits, employing 12,073 wage-earners, in Durham.

    Lanarkshire Collieries (Drainage)

    asked the Secretary for Mines whether any arrangements have yet been made between his Department and the coalowners in the Cambuslang district of Lanarkshire with respect to the unwatering of that area; if so, what these arrangements are; and whether there is any likelihood within a reasonable time of his Department or the coal-owners in the above area taking the necessary steps to ensure the safety of the men employed in the neighbouring collieries?

    No, Sir. The mine-owners concerned, having failed to arrive at any voluntary arrangement for dealing with the accumulation of water in question, I informed them that I should be obliged to exercise my powers under Section 18 of the Mining Industry Act to put into force a drainage scheme. With that end in view I appointed a mining engineer in July last to investigate the problem and to submit proposals. The problem is not easy, and some delay has been caused owing to efforts to arrive at a scheme acceptable to all parties, but the matter is proceeding, and it is my intention to deal with it as expeditiously as possible.

    Exports (Russia)

    asked the Secretary for Mines whether he can give the figures for coal exported from this country to Russia in 1913, 1914, 1921, 1922 and 1923?

    The information asked for is as follows:

    Tons.
    19135,998,434
    19143,087,805
    1921138,878
    1922584,069
    1923476,205
    In addition, the following quantities of coal were exported in 1921, 1922 and 1923 to countries which, or parts of which, were Russian territory before the War:

    Finland.Esthonia.Latvia.Lithuania.Poland (including Dantzig).Total.
    Tons.Tons.Tons.Tons.Tons.Tons.
    192171,23124,88338,46516,694112,322263,595
    1922212,201110,980184,503105,77973,924687,387
    1923482,073120,467240,543105,28157,0761,005,440

    China (British Arms And Interests)

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether the Government is in possession of information showing that within the last three years any arms and munitions have been exported from this country to China to consignees other than the Chinese Government; and what steps are being taken to control the existing traffic in the illicit sale of armaments to China?

    The answer to the first part of the question is in the negative. As regards the second part, the principal Governments having interests in China entered into an agreement in 1919 known as the China Arms Embargo Agreement, by which they undertook to restrain their nationals from exporting to or importing into China arms and munitions of war. In pursuance of this agreement the import of arms and munitions into China on the part of British subjects is prohibited by King's Regulations.

    asked the Under-Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what steps are being taken to protect British interests generally in China and at Shanghai in particular?

    Every possible protection is afforded to British lives and property by the defence schemes, based on naval co-operation, which exist in ports where there is any considerable number of foreign residents. Should it appear desirable, residents in the interior will be warned by the Consular officers to withdraw to the ports. The safety of the International Settlement at Shanghai has been provided for by the landing of an international naval force, which will be assisted by the local volunteers and police force. Representations are being made to the various Chinese military leaders against damage to British interests outside the Treaty ports.

    Anglo-Russian Treaty

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether the General Treaty with the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics was signed exactly in the form set forth in Cmd. 2215; and, if not, what alterations were made in the text before signature?

    The answer to the first part of the question is in the affirmative and the second part therefore does not arise. Since signature a small textual error in Article 8 has been corrected by agreement with the Soviet delegation. This correction appears in Cmd. 2260.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he has any information how much money was lodged in British banks by the late Czarist Government at the date of its downfall; how much of this money remains and in whose name it is entered; and whether the Government has taken any steps to attach such sum until a settlement with the Soviet Government?

    As regards the first two parts of the question, I would refer the hon. Member to the reply given by my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister to the hon. Baronet the Member for the Erdington Division (Sir A. Steel-Maitland) on the 7th July last. By Article X of the Russian Trade Agreement of 16th March, 1921, the Russian Soviet Government undertook to make no claim to dispose in any way of the funds or other property of the late Imperial and Provisional Russian Governments in the United Kingdom pending a general Treaty.

    Widows' Pensions

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what steps the Government propose to take in order to give practical effect to the large concensus of opinion in the House of Commons in favour of widows' pensions?

    My right hon. Friend cannot at present add anything to his previous statements on this matter. Needless to say he has not at any time lost sight of the importance of the question.

    Income Tax (Wage Earners)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will give the net produce of Income Tax under each schedule for the financial years ending 31st March, 1921, 1922, 1923 and 1924, showing under Schedule D the net produce of Income Tax received from weekly wage earners?

    I regret that this information is not available as, under the present system of graduation and differentiation of the Income Tax, with personal allowances, deductions and reliefs appurtenant, not to the various sources of income charged under each schedule, but to the total income of the taxpayer, the total yield cannot be divided between the respective schedules. A full explanation of the difficulties involved will be found on page 115 of the 65th Inland Revenue Report.

    Germany (Silver Purchases)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if Germany has been buying silver in the United States: if so, how much has been bought in 1924; and had Germany the leave of the Reparation Commission to do so?

    I understand from the Press that such purchases have been made, but my right hon. Friend is not in a position to give details of the action of the German Treasury in this matter. The Reparation Commission was not, I understand, consulted; but it does not appear that the Commission has any rights or duties under the Treaty of Versailles in this matter.

    Agriculture

    Small Holdings

    asked the Minister of Agriculture whether, in view of the fact that a negligible number of new small holdings have been created during the last six months, in spite of a considerable demand, as shown by the large number of unsatisfied applicants, he will now consider an immediate scheme for the further provision of holdings both for ex-service men and civilians?

    I am carefully considering the recommendation of the Agricultural Tribunal in regard to small holdings, but before a new scheme can be put into operation a revision of the existing financial arrangements between the Ministry and local authorities will be necessary, and this will involve fresh legislation. In the circumstances, some time must elapse before it will be possible to formulate definite proposals.

    Wages

    asked the Minister of Agriculture whether labourers' wages have been fixed in any counties at a rate below 30s. per week; and if so, what rates have been fixed and in which counties?

    No minimum rates of wages have yet been fixed under the provisions of the Agricultural Wages (Regulation) Act. County committees are now being set up, and I hope that rates will be fixed in a very short time.

    County Committees (Labourers)

    asked the Minister of Agriculture how many of the county agricultural committees contain no agricultural labourers among their members; and whether the number of agricultural labourers serving on these bodies can be increased?

    The only county agricultural committee in England and Wales which contains no representative of agricultural labour among its members is that for Flintshire. The number of such representatives appointed to serve on these bodies in the majority of counties should, in my opinion, be increased. For some months I have taken the opportunity of increasing the labour representation on these committees wherever a casual vacancy has arisen among those members whose appointment is made by the Ministry.

    Livestock

    asked the Minister of Agriculture what was the total number of horses, cattle, sheep and pigs, respectively, in Great Britain in the earliest year for which there is official record,

    GREAT BRITAIN.
    Years.Horses.*Cattle.Sheep.Pigs.
    18674,993,03428,919,1012,966,979
    18701,266,7095,403,31728,397,5892,171,138
    18801,421,1805,912,04626,619,0502,000,842
    18901,432,6206,508,63227,272,4592,773,609
    19001,500,1436,805,17026,592,2262,381,932
    19101,545,3767,037,32727,102,9452,349,946
    19201,312,2986,712,51719,743,6012,122,483
    19241,190,300‡7,056,600‡21,683,200‡3,424,600‡
    ENGLAND AND WALES.
    18674,013,56422,025,4982,778,672
    18701,093,8384,361,88321,646,7352,012,448
    18801,227,1674,812,76019,546,9621,879,917
    18901,242,8935,322,75619,910,9982,613,935
    19001,305,6055,607,08419,277,2292,249,519
    19101,341,8095,866,56819,958,2992,216,599
    19201,121,7225,546,80513,382,6731,993,924
    19241,019,300‡5,893,500‡14,843,000‡3,227,100‡
    * Horses used for agricultural purposes (including mares kept for breeding) and unbroken horses.
    † Not available prior to 1870.
    ‡ Preliminary figures—subject to revision.

    Injurious Weeds

    asked the Minister of Agriculture whether the existing powers respecting destruction of injurious weeds under Section 1 (c) of the Corn Production Repeal Act are being actively enforced by the county agricultural committees; and, if so, in which counties notices have been served for this purpose, and what were the total number of prosecutions undertaken during the last 12 months?

    Such information as I possess indicates that there are appreciable differences in the degree of activity in this respect displayed by the different committees. Recently I issued a circular

    and the total number, in each case, in 1870, 1880, 1890, 1900, 1910, 1920 and 1924; and if he will also give similar data to the above in respect of England and Wales?

    The number of horses, cattle, sheep and pigs, respectively, in Great Britain and in England and Wales, as returned on 4th June in the undermentioned years, was as follows:to all county agricultural committees urging upon them the importance of using the powers in question wherever necessary. Particulars have not been furnished by the counties as to the cases in which notices have been served under the Schedule, but I am obtaining information on this matter. The total number of prosecutions authorised by the Ministry during the past 12 months has been 19.

    Arable Land, Wheat, And Permanent Grass

    asked the Minister of Agriculture what was the total acreage in Great Britain under arable cultivation, wheat and permanent pasture, respec- tively, in the earliest year for which there is official record; the total acreage in each case in 1870, 1880, 1890, 1900, 1910, 1920 and 1924; and if he will give similar data in respect of England and Wales?

    Arable Land.Wheat.Permanent Grass.
    Great Britain.
    Acres.Acres.Acres.
    186717,759,7593,367,87611,967,288
    187018,334,7233,500,54312,072,856
    188017,674,9502,909,43814,426,959
    189016,750,8432,386,33616,017,492
    189015,708,3511,845,04216,729,035
    191014,668,8901,808,85417,477,040
    192015,399,9821,929,01115,846,075
    *192414,198,5001,596,10016,389,800
    England and Wales.
    186714,433,4923,256,75810,914,003
    187014,849,1753,374,90111,107,860
    188014,096,1762,835,46213,267,606
    189013,079,8962,324,36314,792,439
    190012,217,2081,796,21015,320,922
    191011,320,4441,756,05715,972,144
    192012,019,7451,874,65214,487,266
    *192410,928,0001,546,00014,945,000
    * Preliminary figures, subject to revision.

    Arable Stock Farming

    asked the Minister of Agriculture what steps have been taken to carry out experiments in the commercial possibilities of arable stock farming as recommended by the tribunal of investigation?

    A few small experiments have for some time past been in progress in different parts of the country. A scheme is now before the Treasury under which it is proposed to make extended provision for such experiments.

    Producers' And Consumers' Prices

    asked the President of the Board of Trade what steps have been taken, in collaboration with the Ministry of Agriculture, to secure a more complete record of producers' and consumers' prices, as recommended by the Linlithgow Report?

    I have been asked to reply. My Department obtains information as to wholesale or producers' prices for most agricultural commodities and publishes it in the "Agricultural Market Report." Information as to retail prices

    The acreage of arable land, wheat and permanent grass, respectively, in Great Britain and England and Wales in each of the undermentioned years was as follow:is collected by the Ministry of Labour for the purpose of calculating the changes in the cost of living, and is published monthly in the Ministry of Labour "Gazette." My Department has considered in consultation with the Ministry of Labour the recommendations of the Linlithgow Committee as regards exploring the possibility of using this information for the comparison of producers' and consumers' prices, but it has been found that the information at present available is not of the kind which is essential to provide a satisfactory basis for such comparisons. I am considering whether the necessary data could be obtained without undue expense.

    Houses Exported To Continent

    asked the Minister of Agriculture if he is aware of the conditions under which worn-out horses are exported from this country to the Continent; whether he has knowledge that a large number of these animals, which have been declared unfit for work by the Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, are sent to France and Belgium, where they are again put to work; and if he contemplates introducing legislation to put a stop to this traffic in worn-out horses?

    No worn-out horses are allowed to be exported from this country. All horses exported to the Continent are subjected to a uniformly rigid veterinary examination immediately before shipment. The last part of the question does not therefore arise. I have no knowledge of the circumstances referred to in the second part of the question. On the contrary, officers of the Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals acknowledge that the standard of fitness imposed by the Ministry's port inspectors is a very high one, and that no horse which is unfit to travel and to work without suffering is passed for export.

    Companies Acts

    asked the Minister of Agriculture whether it is his intention to introduce a Bill requiring holding companies, similar to the United Dairies, to file with their annual return at Somerset House a co-ordinated balance sheet giving various particulars, as recommended by the Linlithgow Report?

    I have been asked to reply. The matter to which the hon. Member refers has already been noted for consideration when the revision of the Companies Acts is undertaken.

    Workmen's Compensation

    asked the Home Secretary if he is aware that the Guardians of the Newport Union and the Guardians of the Bedwelty Union, Monmouthshire, have passed resolutions protesting against the inadequate amount of compensation paid to disabled workmen; and will he introduce legislation whereby sufficient compensation can be paid to provide decent maintenance instead of recipients having to apply to the guardians to have their compensation augmented?

    The answer to the first part of the question is in the negative. The question of the scale of benefits was fully discussed in Parliament, last year when the Workmen's Compensation Bill was being passed, and further amendment of the Workmen's Compensation Acts cannot, I am afraid, be contemplated at the moment.

    asked the Home Secretary if a decision has yet been arrived at as to whether silicosis, or potter's asthma, shall be scheduled under the Workmen's Compensation Act?

    The matter is one which would have to be dealt with by a scheme under the Workmen's Compensation (Silicosis) Acts, and I am advised that before a scheme under those Acts can be drawn up, a special inquiry involving the medical examination of a considerable number of workers in the industry must be undertaken. I am hoping to arrange for the commencement of this inquiry at an early date.

    Criminal Law

    asked the Prime Minister when he will advise the setting up of a Royal Commission to prepare a draft code which shall amend as well as consolidate the Criminal Law of England and Wales or, alternatively, to prepare draft Bills which shall consolidate and amend the various branches of that Criminal Law and provide for the abolition of obsolete or quasi-obsolete offences?

    Iraq Frontier

    asked the Prime Minister whether any answer has now been received from the Turkish Government to the British Note with reference to the position upon the Iraq frontier; whether the Turks have withdrawn from the disputed area; and what is the general position upon the frontier?

    No reply has yet been received from the Turkish Government. Nor, so far as I am aware, have the Turks yet withdrawn from the disputed area. The general position remains as described in the statement which I made to the House on the 30th September.

    Post Office

    Wireless Amateurs (Experiments)

    asked the Postmaster-General whether he is aware of the dissatisfaction which exists amongst wireless amateurs at the existing restrictions which prohibit messages being transmitted abroad; and will he revise the existing rules with a view to removing all restrictions which are an obstruction to free experiment and research?

    It is the present practice to grant permission for bona fide experiments with places abroad when special application is made. Many such permits have already been issued, and arrangements are being made with the radio societies for the grant of increased facilities for experiments which will be carried out by their members in co-operation with amateurs in the United States and many other countries. The general conditions governing the grant of licences for wireless transmission were adopted after consultation with the other interests concerned, including the radio societies. Some restrictions are necessary in order to prevent interference with other services, but I am at all times prepared to consider any definite suggestions which the radio societies may put forward for altering the rules.

    Ex-Service Men

    asked the Postmaster-General why ex-service men who served for long periods in the recent War and received injuries which prevent them from following their usual employment, but who have successfully performed the duties of auxiliary postmen for years, are excluded from any permanent post in the postal service; and will he take steps to place all ex-service men in an equal position?

    Preference is given to ex-service men for all appointments, and to disabled men for such appointments as are not physically unsuitable for them. Auxiliary postmen, as such, have no preferential claim to permanent appointment; but it is open to ex-service men employed as auxiliary postmen to register their names for permanent appointments, and such men are considered when they are put forward in their turn by the Employment Exchanges, through whom all ex-service candidates for Post Office appointments are recruited.

    Parcels To Ireland (Tax)

    asked the Postmaster-General whether the 6d. tax upon every parcel going into the Irish Free State from Great Britain or Northern Ireland is equally levied on every parcel going into the Irish Free State from foreign countries or other British Dominions and Colonies, and, if not, what steps he is taking to counteract this differentiation against Great Britain and Northern Ireland?

    The answer of the first question is in the affirmative. The second question, therefore, does not arise.

    Registered Postal Packets

    asked the Postmaster-General if he has yet received a deputation from postal sorters relative to the existing system of dealing with registered postal packets; and, if so, what was the result?

    The reply to the first part of the hon. and gallant Member's question is in the affirmative. I still have the matter under consideration.

    Unemployment

    Insurance Contributions (Refund)

    asked the Minister of Labour if his attention has been called to the hardship on many men connected with the building trade in respect of the refusal of refund of contributions under the Insurance Acts unless they have attained the age of 50 on 7th July; how many men, having paid since the start of the scheme in 1912, are thus debarred from benefiting by refunds, although they may be in urgent need of help: what happens in the case of those men who have been contributors since the inception of the Act but have died before reaching the age of 50; and whether he will give, approximately, the number of men who have paid under the Act of 1912 to date but who have not yet reached the age of 50?

    I presume the reference is to the provision in the Unemployment Insurance Act of August last abolishing for the future certain refunds previously payable to persons who had reached the ago of 60 and allowing compensation to persons of the age of 50 or over for the loss of their prospective rights. It is clear that no immediate hardship is caused to persons under the age of 50 at 7th July last, as their previous right to a refund could not have matured till they reached the age of 60; and that the dependants of persons who died before they reached the age of 60 could not have obtained a refund in any event and are therefore in no way prejudiced by the Act. Persons under 50 at 7th July are not entitled to compensation for the loss of their prospective rights. The reason for this is that the amount of compensation is based on the estimated present worth of these prospective rights, which in individual cases were liable to fail to mature owing to a number of causes, and the Department is advised that in the case of persons under 50 no material present worth can be assigned. I regret that the figures asked for in the last part of the question are not available.

    Shipbuilding And Repairing

    asked the Minister of Labour whether his attention has been drawn to the increasing number of shipbuilding and ship-repairing contracts which are being placed from this country with Continental yards; whether he will recommend the appointment of a Committee to inquire into the causes of this; and whether he has under consideration any proposals for providing work for those normally employed in the shipbuilding trade who have for a long period been unemployed?

    My attention has been drawn to certain cases in which shipbuilding or ship-repairing contracts have gone to Continental yards, but the available information does not appear to indicate that the industry in this country is losing ground relatively to other countries. I would point out for example that of the total tonnage of merchant shipping launched in this year up to the' end of September, 67 per cent. was launched in this country, as compared with 60 per cent. for the ten years 1904–13, 42 per cent. in 1922, and 39 per cent. in 1923. The figures for unemployment in the industry, though still unfortunately very high, have fallen substantially since last year, being 27·2 per cent. at the end of August last as compared with 45·8 per cent. at the end of August, 1923. In these circumstances I do not think a Committee of Inquiry would serve any useful purpose, but the matter is one which I am watching carefully, in conjunction with my right hon. Friend the President of the Board of Trade.

    Juveniles

    asked the Minister of Labour if he is aware of a widespread feeling that public funds would be better employed in ensuring that boys learn a trade which will be of use to them in after life rather than in supplementing the unemployment benefit which they, or their parents, receive; and if he is prepared to take any steps in this direction?

    I am not aware of the widespread feeling to which the hon. and gallant Member refers, but I am willing to consider any representations made to me on the subject. I may add that, as the hon. and gallant Member is no doubt aware, facilities for training, supplementary to that in the factory or workshop, are provided by many local education authorities, and during the present stress of unemployment the Juvenile Unemployment Centres in a number of towns give instruction of a non-specialised kind to unemployed boys and girls.

    Woolwich Arsenal (Discharged Workmen)

    asked the Minister of Labour how many men have been procured employment through the Employment Exchanges who have been discharged from Woolwich Arsenal and Dockyard since 1st February last?

    Records are not kept in such a manner as to give the number of men placed in employment after their discharge by a particular employer, and I regret that the figures desired could not he supplied without detailed inquiries involving considerable expense. I may say, however, that the total number of men placed in employment by the Woolwich Employment Exchange between 5th February and 29th September is 2,404.

    Unemployment Figures

    asked the Minister of Labour what were the figures of unemployment for the first week of June, July, August and September, respectively, in 1923, and in the present year?

    The numbers on the registers of Employment Exchanges in Great Britain at the dates mentioned are as under: —

    1923.
    4th June1,220,394
    2nd July1,225,937
    6th August1,228,541
    3rd September1,275,396
    1924.
    2nd June1,002,915
    7th July1,024,551
    4th August1,080,234
    1st September1,162,880
    As is explained in a reply given to-day to the hon. Members for Woolwich West and for Bilston rather less than half of the increase in these figures since the end of July last is not a real increase in unemployment but is due to an effect of the Unemployment Insurance Act of 1st August in bringing on the registers unemployed persons who previously would not have been registered, and further that the withdrawal in February last of certain administrative restrictions on the grant of uncovenanted benefit had a similar effect in increasing the numbers counted as unemployed. I may add that in March last a change was made in the method of presenting these figures, the figure for persons on "systematic short time" which had previously been given separately being amalgamated in the total so far as the persons concerned were actually out of work at the date of the return. The figures for 1923 in the Table given above have been adjusted by the addition of persons on systematic short time actually out of work and are therefore comparable in this respect with those for 1924; the numbers so added varied from about 33,000 in June to 42,000 in September. Care should be taken to note this point in comparing current figures for the live register with those published prior to March last.

    Treasury Notes

    asked the Financial Secretary to the Treasury whether it is contemplated to supersede the present £1 Treasury note by a note of better execution and colour and of more artistic design?

    Ex-Service Men

    Government Departments

    asked the Prime Minister whether, in view of the pledges given by the Government regarding the granting of permanency to ex-service men temporarily employed in the Civil Service without examination, he will reconsider his decision to adopt the, Report of the Southborough Committee, which definitely repudiates the principle which was accepted by his party prior to the last Election?

    The decision of the Government to accept the recommendations of the Southborough Committee was taken after a full and careful consideration of its Report, and I see no reason to reconsider that decision.

    Mental Cases

    asked the Minister of Pensions if he is aware that the guardians of Bedwelty Union have passed a resolution calling upon the Government as a matter of justice to accept as a national responsibility the maintenance of certain ex-service mental cases from 1st October, 1922, to 31st March, 1924; and will he take the measures necessary to give effect to this request of the guardians?

    As a result of repeated investigation it has been decided that the mental condition of the men in question was neither attributable to, nor aggravated by, War service. It was, therefore, as an act of grace that the Government agreed to relieve Ideal rates of the liability for their maintenance from 1st April last. I can see no adequate ground for reopening the question of the charge before that date which has already been met by the ratepayers.