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Written Answers

Volume 179: debated on Wednesday 17 December 1924

Written Answers to Questions

Wednesday, December 17, 1924

Questions

Road Vehicles (Regulations)

97.

asked the Minister of Transport whether he is aware of the inconvenience and expense caused to the agricultural community by the continuance of the operation of Section 5 (1) ( b ) of the Locomotive Act, by which the attendance of three men on locomotives driven on the highways is enforced; and whether, since the Departmental Committee on the taxation and regulation of road vehicles recommended the repeal of that Section, he will introduce legislation at an early date to give effect to that recommendation and relieve agriculture of an unnecessary burden?

:This point is under consideration in connection with the Bill which I propose to introduce dealing with the regulation of road vehicles.

Motor Accidents (Third Party Risks)

asked the Minister of Transport whether, in view of the large number of accidents caused by motor vehicles and motor cycles, he will introduce legislation requiring as a condition precedent to the granting and issue of a licence for any motor vehicle or motor cycle that an unlimited insurance policy for third-party risks taken out with a reputable British insurance office shall be produced to the licensing authority?

:The question of compelling motorists to insure against accidents is under consideration in connection with contemplated legislation.

Motor and Pedal Cycles (Rear Lights)

asked the Minister of Transport whether, before the final draft of the Clause in the Government's proposed Road Vehicle Bill dealing with rear lights or reflectors on pedal cycles is determined, he will receive a deputation from the national societies representing the cyclists in the country?

:As I informed the hon. Member yesterday, I have already received deputations from various cyclists' organisations on this point, but if any further object is to be gained I will see them again at a suitable time.

asked the Minister of Transport whether he has received from the town clerk of Plymouth a copy of a resolution passed by the watch committee suggesting that an Act of Parliament should be passed requiring the provision of red rear-lights on motors and motor cycles in order to safeguard the public generally; and whether he proposes to take action upon these lines?

:I have received resolutions to this effect from Plymouth and from other local authorities. As I have already stated, the Government propose to introduce a Bill dealing generally with the regulation, including the lighting, of road vehicles.

Ardleigh Railway Station

asked the Minister of Transport if he is aware that the platforms of Ardleigh Station, London and North Eastern Railway, are lower than the standard height, and further that the stairways of the subway are insecure and not of uniform width, affording conditions dangerous to the travelling public; and will he take steps to have these defects remedied?

:My attention has not previously been called to this matter, but I will make inquiries and let my hon. Friend know the result.

Motor Vehicles (Axle Load)

asked the Minister of Transport whether there is any intention of reducing the present restrictions governing maximum axle-loads of motor vehicles, in view of the proposed increase of legal speed for heavy road vehicles from 12 to 16 miles per nour?

:I have already explained that the Government propose to introduce legislation dealing generally with the regulation of motor vehicles, and I would prefer not to anticipate the provisions of the Bill on points of detail.

Self-Contained Flats

asked the Minister of Health if he will give an undertaking that the Government will, in the preparation of its housing scheme, offer assistance and encouragement to builders of blocks of hygienic self-contained flats of a low rental value, and thus meet the needs of a district like Hackney, where the only available spaces for building are those to be obtained by the clearance of slums?

:Assistance is available, both by way of loan and subsidy, under the existing Acts of 1923 and 1924, for the building of self-contained flats, and my right hon. Friend will be glad to consider any such proposals submitted to him by local authorities, whether as part of schemes for the clearance of insanitary areas or otherwise. Blocks of flats have already been erected, or are proposed to be erected, with Government assistance, in London and elsewhere.

Building Materials (Prices)

asked the Minister of Health whether he will introduce during this Session a Bill designed to destroy any rings which may' tend to prevent the proper carrying out of the Housing Acts?

:I would refer my hon. Friend to the statement made on this point in the course of the Debate yesterday.

Rents

asked the Minister of Health if he proposes to introduce legislation for the reduction of rents of pre-War houses and to prevent property-owners obtaining rent for houses which have been condemned by the sanitary authorities as unfit for human habitation?

:My right hon. Friend does not propose to introduce fresh legislation for the purposes mentioned by the hon. Member. The efforts of the Government will be directed towards reconditioning repairable houses and expediting the erection of new houses to take the place of those that are beyond repair.

asked the Minister of Health whether he is aware of the profiteering which continues in respect of housing accommodation, especially in London; and whether he will consider the possibility of appointing Fair Rent Courts to which all cases of unfair rents may be submitted?

:No cases have recently been brought to my notice. As the hon. Gentleman is aware, certain provisions of the Rent Restriction Acts can be invoked in this connection. My right hon. Friend does not think the establishment of Rent Courts would be an effective substitute for such Acts at the present time.

Police

asked the Minister of Health what schemes have been submitted by county councils and other local authorities for the provision of houses or cottages suitable for the requirements of constables stationed in villages and country towns; and whether, in view of the present shortage of houses throughout the country, he will give special consideration to any such schemes as affording some relief to the present inadequate supply of houses?

:A number of county councils have carried out schemes for the provision of police cottages, and houses erected by other local authorities would be available for constables in common with other working-class persons. County councils have power under the Housing Acts to erect houses for their employés, and my right hon. Friend is always willing to give favourable consideration to schemes put forward for the housing of constables.

asked the Home Secretary whether the Reports of His Majesty's Inspectors of County Constabulary Forces throughout the country indicate whether increased efficiency results from each village in an area being provided with a house specially built by the county authority to meet the requirements of village constables?

:I do not think this point has been dealt with by His Majesty's Inspectors in their Reports, at any rate in recent years.

Smoke Abatement

asked the Minister of Health whether he can hold out any hope for the introduction during the next Session of the Smoke Abatement Bill?

:The Government contemplate the introduction of a Smoke Abatement Bill as soon as a convenient opportunity arises, but I cannot promise that the Bill will be introduced before 1926.

Casual Wards

asked the Minister of Health (1) whether he will take immediate steps to secure that the guardians of the poor who are stated in the official survey of provincial casual wards to withhold from casual paupers the midday meal or food-ticket to which they are entitled under the Casual Pauper Regulations of 1914 shall provide such meal or ticket, and to secure that the guardians who are stated in the survey not to provide night garments for their men and women casual paupers, which they are bound to provide under the Regulations of 1882, shall henceforth make such provision;

:I would refer my hon. Friend to the answer given on Monday last to the hon. Member for Pontypool (Mr. Griffiths) in reply to a similar question. I am sending him the names of the unions in Dorset and Devonshire to which he refers.

asked the Home Secretary the number of persons charged last year with vagrancy or small larcenies; whether his attention has been called to the official Survey of Casual Wards in England and Wales outside London and to its statements with regard to the bad condition of the wards, poor condition as to their cleanliness, the absence of night-clothing (required by the Casual Paupers Regulations of 1882), and the absence of the mid-day meal or food ticket (required by the Regulations of 1914) in some unions; and whether he will circularise the justices calling their attention to the Workhouse Act, 1790, Section 1, and the Poor Law Amendment Act, 1834, Section 43 (Stone's Justice's Manual, 54th edition, page 1045, note), and informing them of their power to visit any casual ward in any place where they are resident and have jurisdiction, and to examine into the state and condition of the casual paupers therein and of their food, clothing and bedding, and also inform them of their further powers under those Acts?

:The condition of the casual wards is not a matter which comes within the purview of my Department, and I am not aware of any reason for issuing a circular to Magistrates on the subject.

Local Authorities (Improvement Schemes)

asked the Minister of Health whether he will consider the desirability of making percentage grants to local authorities for the provision of open spaces, for the beautifying of streets by means of trees, and for other similar improvements?

:My right hon. Friend is afraid that he cannot hold out any hope of special grants from Government funds for these purposes.

National Health Insurance

asked the Minister of Health whether, seeing that the employer of a woman exempted at her own request from benefit under the Health Insurance Act, and therefore not compelled to make weekly payments, is obliged to contribute the employer's normal payment for such employee, there have been any refusals to pay under such circumstances; and, if so, what action the Government has taken in the different cases?

:The answer to the first question is that no refusals of contribution in the circumstances stated have been traced in my Department. The second question accordingly does not arise.

Vaccination

asked the Minister of Health whether, in view of the fact that modern methods of vaccination produce only faint marks which sometimes entirely disappear although the operation has been thoroughly successful, he will see that good marks are not in future made the test of successful vaccination in cases of post-vaccinal small-pox, as is done in the Table which appears on page 37 and in the footnote on page 38 of the Annual Report of the chief medical officer of the Ministry of Health for the year 1923?

:The Table and footnote referred to do not seem to my right hon. Friend to imply the view that the presence of good marks is the criterion of successful vaccination.

Food Preservatives

asked the Minister of Health if, when framing the new Regulations relating to the use of preservatives in food, he will extend the Regulations so as to make it an offence to use arsenic in the preparation of cocoa or ironground soapstone in baking powder, having in view the fact that both substances so introduced constitute a danger to the public?

:As at present advised, I propose to confine the Regulations to carrying out the principal recommendations of the Committee on the use of preservatives in food. My hon. Friend will appreciate that the scope of these Regulations would need material expansion to cover such points as those to which he refers.

Old Age Pensions

asked the Minister of Health whether, in the case of applicants for old age pensions, persons who are unable to produce a birth certificate but put forward as evidence of age a marriage certificate certifying that they were of full age at the date of marriage, the officials concerned have received any instructions as to how many years these words cover?

:I have been asked to reply. If I am right in assuming that the officials referred to are the pension officers, no instructions have been issued to them in this matter. But I would point out that the question whether an applicant for an old age pension has attained the necessary age is a matter for the determination of the local pension committee, or, if appeal be entered, of the Minister of Health in this country, and of the Scottish Board of Health in Scotland.

Ministry of Health (Retirements)

asked the Minister of Health whether there have, in the last five years, been any retirements on pension from his Department on grounds other than health; and, if so, on what grounds and under what Clause of the Superannuation Acts?

:During the last five years there have, in addition to retirements on the ground of health, been 53 retirements on pension of persons who had attained or exceeded the age of 60 years, which are covered by Section 10 of the Superannuation Act, 1859; and 13 retirements on pension under Section 7 of the Superannuation Act, 1859, in consequence of abolition of office or for the purpose of facilitating improvements in the organisation of the Department by which greater efficiency or economy was effected.

Ministry of Pensions (Medical Officers)

asked the Minister of Pensions how many temporary full-time medical men now in the employ of the Ministry did not serve overseas during the late War; what the names of these officers are; where they are serving; and whether the officers under notice with overseas service are not considered capable of taking their places?

:Of the 220 administrative temporary medical officers at present in the employ of the Ministry, 49 are men with no overseas military service during the late War, but of this latter number 37 had military service at home, leaving only 12 with no military service. As to the reasons which have necessitated the retention of certain of these officers, I would refer the hon. Member to the reply which I gave to the hon. and gallant Member for Southampton (Colonel Perkins) on Tuesday.

Pensions Regional Headquarters

asked the Minister of Pensions how many regional headquarters still exist; what is the name and office held by the regional director or acting regional director; whether it is proposed during the year 1925–26 to abolish any regional headquarters; and whether, in those cases where the commissioner of medical services acts as regional director, he receives any additional remuneration other than the salary paid to the commissioner of medical services?

:Five regional headquarters still exist. There are three regional directors (Lieut.-Colonel H. L. Warden, C.B.E., D.S.O., Edinburgh, Lieut.-Colonel C. H. Townsend, Manchester, and Lieut.-Colonel E. V. Sydenham, D.S.O., Birmingham) and two acting regional directors (Dr. C. R. Stewart, O.B.E., Newcastle-on-Tyne, and Lieut.-Colonel W. Bickerton Edwards, C.B.E., Cardiff). Proposals for abolishing some of these regional headquarters are under consideration. No additional remuneration is paid to the two officers holding the dual posts of acting regional director and commissioner of medical services.

Travelling Accommodation

asked the Financial Secretary to the Treasury whether the Committee set up by the Government to review the question of the class of accommodation when travelling on duty in the case of State servants generally has reported; and, if so, what are its conclusions?

:A sub-committee of the main committee was appointed to examine the question in detail as affecting the various grades of officers belonging to all Crown Services. In the result it has not proved possible, in view of the disciplinary and other considerations involved, to recommend that the existing regulations on the subject should be modified.

Claims and Record Office, Kew

asked the Minister of Labour whether he is aware that the permanent and temporary staffs employed at the Claims and Record Office, Kew, are working excessive overtime weekly; and will he arrange for the overtime to cease and for several hundred clerks to have temporary employment while the pressure on this Department continues, thus reducing the charge on unemployment insurance?

:Nearly 700 additional clerks have been engaged at this office, to deal with claims for compensation under Section 9 of the Unemployment Insurance (No. 2) Act of 1924, and it would be neither practicable nor economical to meet the present requirements by engaging further clerks.

Ex-Service Men

asked the Financial Secretary to the Treasury the present average age of the ex-service men who took the 1921 open competition examination for the administrative class of the Civil Service?

:The present average age of the ex-service men who took the 1921 open competition for the administration class of the Civil Service is 27 years and 7 months.

Wages

asked the Minister of Labour the total increase and decrease of the full-time rate of wages per annum in the United Kingdom from 1913 to 1923, inclusive?

:The appended Table shows, for each of the years 1913–1923, the aggregate amount of increase in the weekly full-time wages of those workpeople who obtained net increases in rates of wages and the aggre- gate amount of decrease in the weekly full-time wages of those workpeople who sustained net decreases in the rates of wages so far as reported to the Department , in the industries٭ for which statistics are available. Notification of changes in rates of wages is not compulsory, and the changes reported are, in the main, those affecting organised groups of employers and workpeople; many changes affecting unorganised workers, particularly those arranged by individual employers, do not come to the notice of the Department. If comprehensive statistics were available for all classes of workpeople, the totals given would be appreciably greater.

Year.

Aggregate Increase in the weekly fulltime Wages of Workpeople who obtained a net Increase in Wage-rates.

Aggregate Decrease in the weekly fulltime Wages of Workpeople who sustained a net Decrease in Wage-rates.

Net Increase (+) or Decrease (—).

£

£

£

1913

178,000

2,000

+176,000

1914

56,000

38,000

+18,000

1915

822,000

+822,000

1916

870,000

+ 870,000

1917

2,986,000

+2,986,000

1918

3,435,000

+3,435,000

1919

2,547,000

+2,547,000

1920

4,793,000

+4,793,000

1921

14,000

6,075,000

−6,061,000

1922

11,000

4,221,000

−4,210,000

1923

169,000

486,000

−317,000

٭ The figures are exclusive throughout of changes affecting agricultural labourers, domestic servants, Government employees, shop assistants, clerks and salaried persons and of changes affecting railway servants in 1913 and 1914 and seamen from 1913 to 1916, the information available in these cases being insufficient to provide an adequate basis for the compilation of statistics.

Mercantile Marine (Seamen)

asked the Minister of Labour the number of seamen employed on the steam, sailing, and motor vessels of the British mercantile marine, exclusive of foreign vessels, at the present time, and indicate how many of these are foreigners and how many are Lascars; and whether he will give the similar figures for 12 months ago?

:I have been asked to reply. To obtain definite information as to the number of seamen employed in British merchant ships at any given time is a matter of some difficulty, owing to the impossibility of communicating simultaneously with ships which are absent from this country. There are three different methods of obtaining information on the subject which are at present in use. These are as follow:

TABLE I.

Numbers and Percentages of Engagements of British and Foreign Seamen at Mercantile Marine Offices in the United Kingdom during the Years 1914 to 1923. 1923.

Year.

British other than Asiatics and Africans.

Foreigners other than Asiatics and Africans.

Asiatics and Africans (British and Foreign).

Total.

No.

Per cent.

No.

Per cent.

No.

Per cent.

1914

500,423

89·0

46,116

8·1

15,728

2·9

562,267

1915

384,602

83·2

55,269

11·7

22,838

5·1

462,709

1916

348,432

83·83

44,634

10·74

22,551

5·43

415,617

1917

305,567

82·92

38,761

10·52

24,184

7·56

368,512

1918

312,357

86·72

25,506

7·08

22,319

6·20

360,182

1919

386,066

91·10

21,353

5·0

16,601

3·90

424,020

1920

455,291

93·49

15,969

3·3

15,717

3·21

486,977

1921

398,872

94·45

12,906

3·05

10,543

2·50

422,321

1922

475,031

94·44

14,639

2·91

13,349

2·65

503,019

1923

489,542

94·61

14,194

2·74

13,709

2·65

517,445

1924 (9 months)

378,852

94·19

11,467

2·85

11,913

2·96

402,232

Note .—These figures relate to engagements rather than to individual seamen (for instance, if a particular man were engaged twice during 1923, he would be counted twice in the total), but the percentages probably give a fairly accurate representation of the actual state of affairs.

The percentage of British among the Asiatics and Africans cannot be stated with certainty, but is probably considerable.

merchant ships at one time or another during each year, but it does not give an exact figure, since some seamen may be counted twice in the enumeration and others may not be counted at all. As the agreement with the crew does not become available until the end of the voyage, which may be a long one, the table obtained by this method cannot be completed until some considerable time after the end of the year to which it relates. Statistics obtained by this method for the years 1911 to 1923 are shown, so far as they are available, in Table II.

The third method is to ascertain, by examination of the agreements of all ships, the exact number of seamen employed in British merchant ships on a given date. This method gives exact figures, but takes no account of seamen, who, on the particular date chosen, were not actually serving as members of the crews of British ships. It is extremely laborious and can only be adopted at relatively wide intervals. The last figures obtained by this method relate to the 19th June, 1921; and these, with earlier figures obtained at intervals of ten years, are shown in Table III.

The differences between the figures in Table II and those in Table III will represent the estimated number of persons normally employed in the Mercantile Marine, who, for one reason or another, were not so employed on the actual census day.

TABLE II.

Table showing the estimated Number of Seamen employed in the British Mercantile Marine for the years 1911–1923 (with the exception of 1915–1918) distinguishing between British, Foreign and Lascar and Asiatic Seamen; and showing the percentage which these form of the total number employed.

Year.

British.

Foreign.

Lascars.

Total.

Number.

Percentage of Total.

Number.

Percentage of Total.

Number.

Percentage of Total.

1911

197,679

73·3

28,955

10·7

43,127

16·0

269,761

1912

200,304

73·0

29,389

10·7

44,925

16·3

274,618

1913

204,633

72·8

30,571

10·9

45,571

16·3

280,775

1914

203,957

72·3

28,496

10·1

49,820

17·6

282,273

1915–1918

No figures available

1919

183,351

75·0

15,464

6·3

45,759

18·7

244,574

1920

206,375

76·4

14,615

5·4

49,091

18·2

270,081

1921

198,179

74·6

14,475

5·5

52,872

19·9

265,526

1922

194,829

75·2

10,969

4·2

53,494

20·6

259,292

1923٭

193,187

75·2

10,501

4·1

53,268

20·7

256,956

Notes ..

1. These figures show the persons employed on vessels registered under Part I of the Merchant Shipping Act, 1894, belonging to the British Isles returned as employed at some time during the year and remaining on the register at the end of the year. The estimated number is the sum of the number of persons engaged for the first crew of each vessel employed during the year .

2. Under the heading "Lascars" are included all Asiatics and East Africans employed on vessels trading between India and this country or entirely in Eastern waters and serving on agreements which terminate in Asia.

٭3. The 1923 figures have not yet been published and are approximate only.

TABLE III.

Extracted from the 1921 Census of Seamen.—Number of Persons employed on Dates specified below in sea-going Vessels registered under Part I of the Merchant Shipping Act, 1894, in the British Isles.

Date.

British.

Foreign.

Lascars.٭

Total.

Number.

Percentage of Total.

Number.

Percentage of Total.

Number.

Percentage of Total.

5 April, 1891

145,140

76·1

24,142

12·7

21,322

11·2

190,604

31 March, 1901

139,286

67·6

33,242

16·1

33,610

16·3

206,138

3 April, 1911

160,735

68·9

29,628

12·7

42,905

18·4

233,268

19 June, 1921

110,426

66·4

11,742

7·0

44,241

26·6

166,409

٭ See Note 2 to Table II. Note 2 to Table II.

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he will give the latest available figures of alien seamen employed on British shipping, distinguishing, if possible, between Europeans and Asiatics?

:I would refer the hon. Member to the answer which was given to-day to the Noble Lord the Member for Southampton (Lord Apsley).

Benefit

asked the Minister of Labour whether he is aware that James Black, 27, Hamilton Street, Govan, has been refused benefit on the ground that he did not accept a situation offered by the Employment Exchange; whether he is aware that Black produced a doctor's certificate to prove his inability to accept the situation; and whether he will have this case reviewed and benefit paid?

:The situation in question was offered to Mr. Black, not through the Employment Exchange, but direct by a local firm, by whom he was engaged on the 24th October. He did not report for work, but three weeks later he produced a medical certificate, dated 14th November, saying that he visited the doctor on the 5th November suffering from a cold, which he stated had attacked him a week earlier. He had been signing at the Exchange during the period when he claimed to be ill. The claim was referred to the Chief Insurance Officer and disallowed. Mr. Black appealed to the Court of Referees, before which he stated his case personally. The court came to the conclusion that his failure to start work was not reasonable and that benefit should be disallowed. The hon. Member will be aware that I have no power to review this decision.

asked the Minister of Labour whether he is aware that Mary Reid, 18 years of age, of 44, Logie Street, Govan, has been refused benefit because she declined a situation at Dundee as a domestic servants; how many domestic servants were registered at Dundee Labour Exchanges during the week ending 11th November; and whether, in view of the distance from Glasgow, the number of girls unemployed in Dundee, and the age of this girl, he will have this case reconsidered and benefit paid?

:The situation in question was for a resident kitchen maid. During the week ended 11th November there were only seven applicants registered at the Dundee Exchange for resident domestic service. None of the seven had experience as kitchen maid, but four of them were submitted unsuccessfully for the situation. Miss Reid had had previous experience as a kitchen maid. When she refused the situation, her claim was disallowed by the Chief Insurance Officer. She appealed to a Court of Referees, attended the hearing, and stated her case. The court thought she had no satisfactory reason for refusing the situation, and disallowed her claim. The hon. Member will be aware that I have no power to review this decision.

asked the Minister of Labour whether he proposes to take steps to examine the circumstances under which uncovenanted unemployment insurance benefit is being at present administered; and whether, seeing the payment of such benefit is in many cases preventive of effort to secure employment and inflicts hardship upon contributors to the Unemployment Insurance Fund, he will consider the advisability of amending the Unemployment Insurance Acts so as to terminate in the shortest possible time the payment of uncovenanted benefit altogether?

:I would refer my hon. Friend to my reply to the hon. Member for the Devizes Division (Mr. Hurd) on 11th December, 1924, of which I am sending him a copy.

Foreign Countries

asked the Minister of Labour what are the unemployment figures in the United States of America, France, Germany, and Italy, respectively, at the last published returns; and what percentage in each case these figures represent as compared with the percentage of unemployment at present in this country?

:A summary of the latest available information with regard to unemployment in foreign countries is published each month in the "Ministry of Labour Gazette," of which I am sending my hon. Friend a copy. I regret that, owing to the varying degrees of completeness of the figures and the differences in the methods of compilation, it is not possible to give comparable percentages.

Disability Pensions

asked the Minister of Pensions whether he is aware that Mr. C. A. Day, of 56, Sunbury Lane, Walton-on-Thames, was assessed on 20th September, 1916, by an invaliding board at three months' total incapacity for neurasthenia and then at nine months at one-half; that on 24th November, 1916, a special medical board assessed at three months at three-quarters; that on 26th February, 1917, a special medical board assessed at six months at one-quarter; that on 17th September, 1917, the board assessed at nil; that, although no further award was made, Mr. Day was granted treatment allowances from 17th May, 1922, to 21st August, 1923; that the Pensions (Assessment) Appeal Tribunal ultimately admitted disability at 50 per cent, from 22nd August, 1923; that Mr. Day is totally unfit for employment; and that, between 10th January, 1918, and 16th May, 1922, a period of four years and 126 days, he was paid nothing at all; and whether, in view of the hard circumstances of the case and the fact that disablement has ultimately been admitted after a number of years of its existence, he will take steps to secure for Mr. Day arrears of pension during the period of his disablement since 10th January, 1918, during which no pension was received?

:In September, 1917, in June, 1918, and in March, 1919, successive medical boards found no disablement. No further application was received from the man from the latter date until May, 1922, when he was placed under treatment with full allowances. In these circumstances, there is no ground for granting arrears for the period in question.

Widows' Pensions

asked the Minister of Pensions how many pensions have been awarded to widows whose husbands died owing to a war disability more than seven years after discharge?

:I would refer the hon. Member to the answer given to the hon. and gallant Member for Fairfield (Major Cohen) on the 15th instant, of which I am sending him a copy.

Facilities, Salford

asked the Postmaster-General whether he is aware of the inadequate postal facilities afforded to the Borough of Salford, a town of nearly a quarter of a million inhabitants; whether any other town of the same size in England is without a general post office, or is similarly deprived of the right to send a telegram, obtain a money order, or register a letter after seven o'clock p.m.; and if he will take steps to remedy these grievances?

:I am not aware that the public facilities which are provided at Salford are inadequate to present requirements; but I am having inquiries made, and will write the hon. Member.

Sub-Postmasters (Local Authorities)

asked the Postmaster-General whether there are any Regulations which prevent a private trader acting as a sub-postmaster from becoming a candidate for a local authority?

Wireless Aerials (Protection Op Pigeons)

asked the Home Secretary whether he will take steps to compel people with wireless sets to have corks attached to outdoor aerials, in view of the damage done to homing pigeons who come into contact with these aerials?

:I have been asked to reply. As at present advised, I do not think it would be practicable or reasonable to require all licence holders, of whom there are upwards of one million, to provide special apparatus for the protection of pigeons. I am making some inquiries, and if it is found that in any locality the pigeon mortality due to contact with aerials is exceptionally high, I will endeavour to use such means of persuasion as are open to me.

Military Garrisons, Bombay and Calcutta

asked the Under-Secretary of State for India the number of Europeans resident in Bombay and Calcutta and the average military strength of the garrisons of these two towns?

:According to the Census of 1921 the number of persons of European descent resident in Bombay was 14,726, and in Calcutta 12,907. The approximate strength of the regular military garrisons is 2,310 and 3,750 respectively.

Murders and Outrages

asked the Under-Secretary of State for India the number of Europeans assassinated in British India from January, 1923, to date, and the number of outrages on Europeans during the same period not attended with fatal results?

:So far as my information goes, in the period named the number of persons of European descent killed has been 16, and the number attacked, but not killed, 22. These figures include 8 murders and 3 other outrages on and near the north-west frontier, attacks on police or other officers in the execution of their duty, assaults or murders on trains or elsewhere with robbery as the motive, attacks on managers of tea gardens, attacks by villagers on British soldiers out shooting, as well as political offences.

European Government Servants (Associations)

asked the Under-Secretary of State for India what, if any, associations of European Government servants are recognised either by the Government of India or by the Provincial Governments?

:It will be necessary to refer to the Government of India to obtain full information on the subject of the hon. and gallant Member's inquiry, and I will have this done. It is known, however, that the Indian Civil Service Association and the Indian (Imperial) Police Association are recognised by the Government of India.

Exchange and Currency

asked the Under-Secretary of State for India whether it is the intention of the Secretary of State for India to set up a Commission to investigate the position of Indian exchange and currency?

:The question of the appointment of such a committee is one that has received and will receive the most careful consideration.

British Children, Ishapore (Education)

asked the Under-Secretary of State for India what educational facilities are in existence for the children of British foremen employed in the Government rifle factory, Ishapore; where the nearest school is; and what are the fees charged?

:I am having inquiries made locally, and will communi- cate with the hon. Member as soon as a reply is received.

British Army Officers (Marriage Allowance)

asked the Secretary of State for War whether he proposes to secure for married officers in India the same married allowances as they would receive if they were serving in England?

:I have been asked to reply to this question. The revision of pay of British officers in India is now under examination, and the question raised by my hon. Friend is among those to be considered.

Freightage Costs

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he is aware that in order to retain business with Calcutta a Newport manufacturer of iron goods has to pay a freight of 38s. per ton from Newport to Calcutta, whilst at the same time the shipping firm, and sometimes the same boat, accepts the cut freight of 13s. 7d. for similar goods from Antwerp; and whether, seeing that this disparity in freightage costs against British manufacturers or British exports has an important bearing on the large number of unemployed in manufacturing and shipping centres throughout the country, he will consider some action to obtain conditions of fair play for British interests in trading with our own Colonies?

:The attention of the Board of Trade has frequently been drawn to the differences between the freights charged from Continental ports and those from British ports to the same destination. The example given in the question is, I am informed, correct. The reason given is that Continental lines are able for various causes to carry at a lower cost than their British competitors, and British lines have to carry at the Continental rates if they are to secure any of the business from Continental ports. The matter is watched carefully by the Department, but there is no power to regulate freights or to require Continental rates to be charged from British ports.

South Wales Ports

asked the President of the Board of Trade the annual tonnage from the year 1910 to the last Return of imports of foodstuffs, foreign iron ore and foreign steel bars, and exports overseas of coal, iron, and steel goods, and tin plates at Newport, Monmouthshire, and each of the principal South Wales ports?

(A) IMPORTS.

Description, etc.

Cardiff.

Llanelly.

Newport (Mon.).

Port Talbot.

Swansea.

Grain and Flour.

Tons.

Tons.

Tons.

Tons.

Tons.

1910

364,200

Not available from published returns.

Not available

Not available from published returns.

63,480

1911

348,505

207

72,185

1912

266,235

2

65,920

1913

290,018

1,021

46,280

1914

324,370

3,038

46,215

1915

299,775

492

67,435

1916

270,080

2,866

69,005

1917

211,520

2,816

57,570

1918

97,360

11,376

23,522

1919

157,485

2,965

22,995

1920

252,590

1,855

58,620

1921

254,361

51,775

1922

310,620

66,215

1923

362,341

105

71,035

Iron Ore.

1910

650,971

Not available from published returns.

504,691

85,808

64,809

1911

726,514

379,849

65,507

53,765

1912

746,100

537,761

70,366

61,727

1913

765,955

657,122

78,688

76,204

1914

769,328

380,024

89,694

82,739

1915

720,103

591,293

64,786

79,493

1916

706,460

632,238

91,017

63,725

1917

615,475

561,876

86,207

63,380

1918

757,138

609,782

111,287

71,479

1919

616,988

320,613

71,925

47,931

1920

691,599

487,321

68,039

68,318

1921

31,305

73,765

29,999

30,129

1922

351,453

249,416

136,411

85,868

1923

586,784

557,898

265,127

50,372

Steel Bars.

1910

34,092

115,493

4,044

1911

24,787

808

197,709

43,150

1912

22,969

4,283

167,031

34

32,189

1913

14,392

192,929

51

9,071

1914

13,128

14,948

174,070

1,164

7,426

1915

5,298

4,635

1916

6,981

558

1917

3,188

16

1918

404

32

1919

32

1920

4,207

1,590

1

398

1921

6,692

6,569

38,936

500

7,904

1922

4,766

253

12,185

3,843

856

1923

15,141

800

56,350

1,052

3,389

:Particulars of the weights of all foodstuffs imported are not available. The following statement shows for each of the years 1910 to 1923, inclusive, the tonnage of grain and flour, iron ore, and steel bars, imported into Newport, Monmouthshire, and the other principal ports of South Wales, together with the exports from those ports of coal, of tinned plates and sheets, and of other iron and steel manufactures, so far as particulars are available:

(B) EXPORTS (UNITED KINGDOM PRODUCE AND MANUFACTURE).

Description, etc.

Cardiff.

Llanelly.

Newport (Mon.).

Port Talbot.

Swansea.

Coal.

Tons.

Tons.

Tons.

Tons.

Tons.

1910

17,522,717٭

187,026٭

3,936,554٭

1,770,706٭

3,380,864٭

1911

16,785,014٭

158,757٭

4,456,254٭

1,878,658٭

3,619,680٭

1912

17,822,467٭

145,485٭

4,115,159٭

1,935,003٭

3,736,708٭

1913

20,095,051٭

244,157٭

4,841,786٭

2,318,699٭

4,451,597٭

1914

16,474,787٭

195,579٭

4,247,172٭

1,637,215٭

3,621,600٭

1915

10,977,636٭

117,792٭

3,480,986٭

1,632,978°

3,749,323٭

1916

9,715,915٭

151,662٭

3,539,820٭

2,148,158٭

3,360,524°

1917

13,585,361٭

134,371٭

3,460,152٭

1,607,402٭

2,821,078٭

1918

11,200,402٭

78,572٭

3,224,687٭

1,197,770٭

2,821,842٭

1919

12,373,681

284,926

3,654,802

1,571,839

2,341,987

1920

8,772,186

531,056

2,678,650

1,630,660

1,852,061

1921

8,030,074

228,628

1,981,487

648,655

1,356,883

1922

15,939,977

417,952

4,777,057

1,941,469

2,539,134

1923

17,817,249

529,437

5,603,885

2,717,463

3,358,768

Tinned Plates and Sheets.

1910

9,573

53

26,379

502

248,917

1911

4,699

16,080

426

264,140

1912

3,647

18,605

286

274,091

1913

4,592

27,293

119

273,938

1914

4,368

24,471

177

244,895

1915

14,352

15,960

214,329

1916

12,540

4,346

10,966

552

165,791

1917

4,404

1,424

1,272

70,538

1918

6,818

1,048

4,536

491

63,490

1919

3,429

6,712

683

145,887

1920

720

163

10,003

903

190,672

1921

2,491

5

8,344

26

123,536

1922

8,075

122

32,094

884

288,365

1923

11,275

43,792

176

367,880

Other Iron and Steel Manufactures.

1910

18,741

108,680

2,907

81,360

1911

46,057

91,507

2,954

94,986

1912

35,934

121,124

1,707

118,815

1913

80,965

186,968

1,942

119,339

1914

52,724

126,550

2,177

82,181

1915

26,796

5

100,490

4,318

78,543

1916

35,316

17,521

107,273

10,614

85,437

1917

31,376

17,353

167,007

3,958

126,543

1918

27,117

480

98,404

11,297

70,324

1919

30,324

42,222

2,363

95,050

1920

33,929

612

73,434

5,701

108,987

1921

21,371

52,228

1,128

54,925

1922

50,426

249

162,039

17,187

150,355

1923

85,152

4,855

236,106

18,536

186,091

٭ Includes coke and manufactured fuel in these years. In 1913 the total weight of coke and manufactured fuel so included was as follows: — Cardiff, 812,555 tons; Llanelly, 2 tons; Newport (Mon.), 162,574 tons; Port Talbot, 251,030 tons; Swansea, 940,464 tons.

Imports (Iron and Steel)

asked the President of the Board of Trade the volume and value of imports into Great Britain of iron and steel from France and Belgium, respectively, for the months of July, August, September, October and November, 1922, 1923 and 1924?

:The following Statement shows the quantities and declared values of the imports of iron and steel, and manufacturers thereof, into the United Kingdom, registered during each of the months specified, as consigned from France and Belgium, respectively:

Imports of Iron and Steel and Manufactures there of, consigned from

Month.

France.

Belgium.

Quantity.

Value.

Quantity.

Value.

Tons.

£

Tons.

£

1922.

July

14,896

104,880

19,499

197,250

August

16,188

109,535

30,562

268,503

September

16,350

122,492

29,186

260,335

October

21,957

155,055

37,794

329,879

November

16,753

123,066

28,826

276,246

1923

July

23,516

186,065

59,638

536,441

August

26,036

183,715

54,720

497,325

September

22,487

172,142

61,413

544,530

October

19,905

142,153

59,944

547.338

November

16,300

125,401

47,813

452,009

1924.

July

38,028

268,857

104,696

877,221

August

21,487

156,743

83,363

668,739

September

33,665

224,096

88,602

717,748

October

26,552

176,793

108,490

842,148

November

39,291

247,862

102,375

775,221

Note . — From 1st April, 1923, the direct imports, if any, into the Irish Free State from France and Belgium were excluded from the accounts of the Trade of the United Kingdom.

Export Credits Scheme (Russia)

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Overseas Trade Department whether His Majesty's Government intend to cancel the present exclusion of Russia from the export credits scheme?

:It is not proposed to make any change in this respect in the administration of the export credits scheme.

Sale of Food Order (Poultry)

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether, in view of the fact that large quantities of foreign turkeys and other poultry are annually imported into this country, where they are easily passed off as English products, he will take steps to put them in the same position as regards labelling as imported meat, as denned by the Sale of Food Order, 1921?

:There is no statutory power to add to or vary the existing provisions of the Sale of Food Order, 1921, as continued by the Expiring Laws (Continuance) Acts.

German Baths

asked the President of the Board of Trade how many German baths were imported into this country during the past 12 months?

:During the 12 months ended 31st October, 1924, the number of iron or steel baths (porcelain enamelled or other finish) imported into the United Kingdom, consigned from Germany, was 3,800.

Coasting Trade

asked the President, of the Board of Trade if he can state what was the amount of shipping, net register, that plied between different ports in the United Kingdom in the years 1920, 1921, 1922 and 1923, as compared with the year 1913?

:The following statement shows the number and net tonnage of vessels, including their repeated voyages, that arrived at, or departed from, ports of the United Kingdom, with cargoes or in ballast, in the coasting trade, * ; in the year 1913 and in each of the years 1920 to 1923, inclusive:

Year.

Arrived.

Departed.

Vessels.

Net Tons.

Vessels.

Net Tons.

1913

286,299

65,273,838

285,846

65,111,086

1920

178,993

50,250,597

178,865

50,257,817

1921

149,711

41,399,294

149,775

41,022,065

1922

193,801

51,575,178

194,787

51,273,158

1923†

182,432

47,074,570

182,655

46,920,062

٭ Vessels are regarded as engaged in the Foreign Trade so long as they carry cargo brought from abroad for discharge in the United Kingdom or embarked for abroad in the United Kingdom. Such vessel are recorded in the Foreign Trade only, even though they may carry coasting cargo. Trade only, even though they may carry coasting cargo.

† As from 1st April, 1923, trade of United Kingdom vessels between ports in Great Britain and ports in the Irish Free State, and trade between ports in Northern Ireland and ports in the Free State, both of which were previously recorded as coasting trade, have been recorded as foreign trade. Further, as from the same date, the trade of ports in the Irish Free State with ports outside Great Britain and Ireland, and the trade of one Free State port with another, have been excluded from the navigation returns of the United Kingdom. trade. Further, as from the same date, the trade of ports in the Irish Free State with ports outside Great Britain and Ireland, and the trade of one Free State port with another, have been excluded from the navigation returns of the United Kingdom.

War Material (Exportation)

asked the President of the Board of Trade how much war material, and of what description, has been shipped from Great Britain to Poland, Latvia, Esthonia and Lithuania from May, 1923, up to the present date?

:I regret that there has not been time to compile the figures which the hon. Member asks for. I will, however, have them circulated in the OFFICIAL REPORT as soon as they are ready.

Per cent.

Nordwestbahn

Loans of 1874 and 1903

Austria

15·092

Czecho-Slovakia

84·908

Nordwestbahn

Loan of 1871 and 1885

Austria

23·441

Czecho-Slovakia

76·559

Franz Josef Eisenbahn

Loans of 1854 and 1886

Austria

31·046

Czecho-Slovakia

68·954

Naval Treaty (Tonnage)

Enemy Action Claims

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether the settlement of claims for loss of life and property by British subjects due to enemy submarines and aircraft during the war, under the Royal Commission of which Lord Sumner was chairman, are to be considered as final, or whether the Government recognise that the full satisfaction of these claims is a first charge upon any reparations recovered from Germany?

:I would refer my hon. Friend to the answer given by the Financial Secretary to the Treasury on the 15th December to the hon. Member for East Cardiff (Sir C. Kinloch-Cooke), a copy of which I am sending him.

Austrian and Hungarian Pre-War Debts

asked the President of the Board of Trade how long the Reparation Commissioners are expected to take before they determine the relative quotas payable by the States which have succeeded to the ownership of the Austrian Imperial railways, and especially of the Nordwestbahn and Franz Josefsbahn; and with whom the responsibility for the delay lies?

:The Reparation Commission decided in December, 1922, the proportions in which responsibility for the pre-War Austrian and Hungarian debts secured on railways should be distributed between the States concerned. The loans referred to in the question were distributed in the following percentages:

tonnage of the British Navy has exceeded the 528,000 tons allowed by the Washington Arms Conference treaties; and whether he can state that the obligations under those treaties regarding the scrapping of the "Thunderer," the "Ajax," the "Centurion," and the "King George V" have been fully carried out?

:The capital ships which may be retained by the British Empire are stated by name in Chapter II, Part 1, of the Treaty, and their total tonnage is given as 580,450 tons. All other capital ships will be scrapped or otherwise disposed of in accordance with the Treaty by the date required by the Treaty, namely, 17th February, 1925. The amount of 528,000 tons mentioned by the hon. Member is, apparently, a mistake for 525,000 tons, which is the amount to which the total tonnage of British capital ships is to be reduced by 1942. No obligation to commence scrapping the vessels mentioned in the latter portion of the question will arise for some time. Under Article 2 of the Naval Treaty, and in accordance with the rules laid down therein in Chapter II, Part 2, Section 4 (6), the scrapping of these vessels has to be commenced not later than the date of completion of the "Nelson" and "Rodney," which are now building; or, in the event of delay in their completion, not later than four years after they were commenced, i.e ., the 28th December, 1926.

Joiners

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Admiralty when the last naval joiner was advanced to shipwright; whether such promotions will be continued; and, if so, when is the next promotion likely to be made?

:No case of a joiner being transferred to shipwright has occurred since June, 1919. It is not proposed to abolish the Regulation which permits of such transfers being made, but such transfers would only be allowed in very exceptional circumstances, and it is impossible to say when the next one will be made.

Portsmouth Dockyard

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Admiralty whether, in view of the considerable amount of repair work lost to His Majesty's dockyard, Portsmouth, through the removal of a part of the Atlantic Fleet to the Mediterranean station, the Board of Admiralty will approve of the capital ships of the Mediterranean Fleet being refitted annually or as necessary at their home port dockyards?

:My hon. and gallant Friend will understand that the arrangements for refitting the ships of the Mediterranean Fleet cannot be governed by the state of employment at the home ports, but I can assure him that there is every prospect of the resources of Portsmouth dockyard remaining fully employed.

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Admiralty if the Board of Admiralty will anticipate a portion of the Estimate for 1925–26 in connection with the building of H.M.S. "Suffolk" in order to provide additional work for the unemployed in Portsmouth during the forthcoming winter?

:I regret that this suggestion cannot be adopted, as the work on H.M.S. "Suffolk" is being carried out as rapidly as the supply of materials will permit.

Submarine Depot (Musters and Inspections)

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Admiralty whether he is aware of the feeling that now exists at the submarine depot against the continual musters and inspections that are taking place and which reflect on the number of ratings volunteering for this service; and will he consider the possibility of promulgating instructions of comfort and relaxation on shore in view of the arduous and dangerous duties which they are called upon to perform?

:No complaints have been received at the Admiralty, and from inquiries I have made I feel that my hon. and gallant Friend is under a misapprehension in suggesting that such a feeling exists. As this House is aware, the Board of Admiralty are always willing to consider sympathetically any questions affecting the well-being and contentment of the men of the Navy which are brought to their notice through the normal service channels.

Established Men (Deductions from Wages)

asked the First Lord of the Admiralty, with reference to the deductions that are made from estab- lished men's wages, thereby placing them in a lower category as regards payment than those men who are not established, whether he will take steps to annul the Regulation under which these deductions are made, in view of its antiquated character?

:I am afraid that I cannot agree with the suggestion that the antiquity of a Regulation is itself any reason for its annulment provided that Regulation has operated satisfactorily as it has in this case. As the hon. Member is aware, the established man is in a better position than the hired man.

Promotion to Boatswain

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Admiralty when it is anticipated the next promotion to boatswain will be made?

:Promotion will be resumed about July next when the first candidates qualified under post-War Regulations become available.

Maltese Non-Continuous Service Artisans

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Admiralty whether he is aware that the difference between the pay of skilled and unskilled Maltese non-continuous service ratings is proportionately smaller than between skilled and unskilled continuous service ratings; and whether he will place Maltese non-continuous service artisans on an equitable footing in comparison with continuous service artisans?

:The answer to the first part of the question is in the affirmative, and the question of effecting a readjustment for future entries will be considered when the new rates of pay for future entries are settled. Readjustment of the rates of men now serving could only be made by increasing the rates of the artisans, which would not be justified, or by reducing the rates for the seamen and stokers, which would be contrary to Admiralty policy, the intention being not to reduce the rates of men now serving.

Hospitals (Cooks)

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Admiralty whether he is aware that the cooking in the royal naval hospitals at home and abroad is performed by unskilled labour; and whether, in view of the importance that hospital food should be properly prepared and cooked, he will consider the appointment of properly-qualified cooks?

:The civilian cooks at naval hospitals at home are as a general rule drawn from pensioner cook ratings, and are entered with due regard to their service record and qualifications. In no sense can they be considered unskilled labour. At hospitals abroad also, every care is taken to enter duly qualified men. The importance of having the food properly prepared and cooked is fully recognised, and every precaution, by daily inspections, etc., is taken at the naval hospitals to ensure this.

Uganda (Transport Facilities)

asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies whether he is aware of the serious losses incurred by cotton growers in Uganda in consequence of the lack of efficient transport; and whether he proposes to take any steps to increase the facilities?

:I have received representations on this subject, and I am in communication with the Governor of Kenya. Pending the opening of direct communication by rail between Uganda and the coast, every endeavour is being made to increase the facilities for handling Uganda cotton by improving wharf and storage accommodation on Lake Kioga, by improving the wharves on Lake Victoria, and by providing new steamers and lighters for both lakes. In addition, 441 goods wagons have been ordered and are expected to be shipped before the end of the year, while 18 locomotives are due for delivery on the 30th of January. Special effects have been made to provide additional storage facilities at the ocean port, in order to prevent the delay due to overlapping of the different kinds of cargo which are presented for export at about the same time of the year.

Ceylon (Mr. Venkataram)

asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies whether he is aware that Mr. Venkataram, the manager of the newspaper "Swarajya," was recently detained by the Ceylon police as a destitute Indian immigrant, on the ground that he was dressed in khaddar; and whether it is proposed to offer Mr. Venkataram an apology for this action?

:I have received no information as to this incident, but I will ask the Governor for a report.

Palestine (Jewish Community Ordinance)

asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies whether it is his intention before the draft Ordinance for the Palestine Colonies is put into final form to consider the views of Vaad Hair Ashkenazi and the Agudas Israel?

:I assume that the hon. Member refers to the draft "Jewish Community" Ordinance. Due consideration is being given to the views of all those whom the Ordinance will affect.

Stamp Duties (Foreign Bonds)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer the amount contributed by the Stamp Duty on foreign bonds in the financial years 1912–13 and 1913–14 when the rate was 1 per cent., and the amount contributed in each succeeding financial year to date, after the increase of the rate to 2 per cent, by the Finance Act of 1920; and whether he will consider the reduction of the present Stamp Duty on foreign bonds with a view to facilitating the arrangement for foreign loans in this country, and so bringing to this country the additional trade which naturally follows such loans?

:The approximate receipt of Stamp Duty on marketable securities to bearer (other than those of Colonial Governments or municipalities) is as follows:

£

1912–13

825,000

At the rate of 20s. per cent.

1913–14

940,000

1920–21

525,000

(Partly at 20s. per cent. and partly at 40s. per cent.)

1921–22

650,000

At the rate of 40s. per cent.

1922–23

1,215,000

1923–24

1,150,000

ceding the War were a time of exceptional activity as respects the issue of foreign loans.

External Investments

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what was the estimated annual average amount, expressed in sterling, of the surplus exports and services of Germany invested outside Germany from 1910 to 1914?

:I regret that I know of no reliable estimate of German external investments in the years named.

Shipping

asked the President of the Board of Trade what was the amount of the gross German tonnage of shipping registered in 1913; the losses due to operations of War; the losses under the Versailles Treaty; the tonnage immediately after the War; and the tonnage according to the latest figures?

:According to Lloyds' Register Book, the gross tonnage of shipping in German ownership was as follows: —

Tons.

June, 1913

5,082,061

June, 1914

5,459,296

June, 1920

672,671

June, 1924

2,953,671

The following additional particulars are available:

Tons Gross.

Detained and Prize German tonnage in the hands of the Allies at 10th January, 1920

1,756,127

Reparations deliveries

2,613,711

Total

4,369,838

National Debt

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what was the National Debt of Germany and what were the German State debts in 1914, expressed

GERMANY.

National Debt ..

31st March, 1914.

31st October, 1924.٭

Marks.

Sterling Equivalent at 20·43.

Marks.

Sterling Equivalent at 18·75.

£

£

Imperial

5,199,000,000

254,500,000

3,266,500,000

174,200,000

Federal States

16,782,000,000

821,500,000

Figures not available.

21,981,000,000

1,076,000,000

٭ Including the International Loan floated in October, to an amount of 926 millions of marks.

Under the Dawes Scheme Germany? will in future years be liable for large annual payments for Reparations, which are equivalent to a foreign debt and are not included in the above figures.

Cross-Channel Passengers (Customs Examination)

asked the Financial Secretary to the Treasury whether he is aware of the inconvenience from which cross-Channel passengers suffer from the unsatisfactory arrangements for Customs examination; and whether he will consider the extension of the system of examination on the railway journey from the port of arrival to London?

:I am not aware of any inconvenience due to arrangements under the control of the British Customs authorities. But if the hon. Member will furnish me with details of any particular instance, I will cause inquiries to be made. The proposal made in the second part of the question is already receiving consideration, but, as at present advised, I am doubtful whether it would Te an improvement on existing arrangements.

Commissioners of Assize (Payments)

asked the Financial Secretary to the Treasury what sums have in sterling, and what are the corresponding figures now?

:The figures are as follow:

been paid to Commissioners of Assize since the 1st January, 1922, to date for personal services and expenses, respectively; to whom were such payments made and when and upon what basis; and how many days were so occupied and included in such payments in respect of each of the said assizes or circuits?

:I have been asked to reply. The amounts paid to Commissioners of Assize from the 1st January, 1922, up to date have been as follow:

Number.

Fees.

Expenses.

£

s.

d.

£

s.

d.

1922

3

1,056

6

0

826

6

4

1923

6

2,138

14

8

1,674

11

5

1924

8

2,185

4

0

2,341

1

10

hon. Member will not press for details as to the payment made to each individual. I am about to lay a Return, showing in respect of the legal year, 1923–24, the additional expenditure involved, and I propose to lay a similar Return in each successive year in which Commissioners are appointed.

Malicious Injuries, Ireland (Petitions of Right)

asked the Attorney-General if he is aware that some British subjects resident in Ireland, being without other remedy owing' to recent legislation in the Irish Free State, have brought Petitions of Right praying for compensation for injuries to person or property, and that defences by way of demurrer have been filed in the English Courts which may prevent the being heard; and will he consider whether, in the circumstances, such defences might with propriety be withdrawn so that the cases could be tried on their merits?

:I am informed that some Irish Loyalists have brought Petitions of Right praying for compensation for injuries to personal property; and that the pleas deny the liability of the British Treasury. In so far as the petitions in question relate to compensation for injuries in respect of which awards have been made, c might have been made, prior to the establishment of the Irish Free State under the Criminal Injuries Acts, those Acts at no time conferred upon the claimant any rights against the British Government, but solely against the local authority, and it is not possible, therefore, for His Majesty's Government to admit that any such petition discloses any right of action against them. In so far as any such petition relates to injuries arising subsequent to the establishment of the Irish Free State, His Majesty's Government are advised that the statutory right to compensation for damage to person or property in the Irish Free State is a matter solely within the competence of the Parliament and the Courts of the Irish Free State, and in these cases also it is, therefore, impossible for His Majesty's Government to admit that any statutory or legal liability rests upon them.

Alien Communist Activities

asked the Home Secretary whether His Majesty's Government intend to introduce early legislation to make the propaganda of Communism and other alien attacks on the rights and liberties of the people under the British Constitution illegal and punishable by law?

:I am carefully considering the question of alien Communist activities in all its aspects, and if I find that the ordinary law is inadequate to deal with them I shall not hesitate to ask Parliament for further powers.

Aliens

asked the Home Secretary the number of aliens in whose case orders for deportation have been issued but whose country of origin will not accept them; and what action is taken in respect of all these individuals?

:I do not think that I can usefully say more than that the number of cases in which the compulsory removal of an alien is impossible because his particular nationality cannot be established, forms a small percentage of the total oases which have to be dealt with. The circumstances of such cases differ very widely, but it is the practice to take whatever steps are appropriate to the case, e.g., to place the individual under special restrictions, such as a requirement to report himself at short intervals to the police.

Isle of Man Enabling Bill

asked the Home Secretary on what grounds the Isle of Man Enabling Bill was refused confirmation by the Home Office after passing the Manx Legislature this summer; and whether the matter can be reconsidered?

:It was impossible to recommend this Bill for confirmation in the form in which it was submitted because certain of its provisions were ultra vires of Tynwald. Suggestions were made by the Home Office that the objects of the promoters might be achieved and the technical difficulties removed if certain amendments were made. No reply has yet been received to these suggestions.

Police Strike, 1919

asked the Home Secretary whether he has received the report from the committee on the dismissed police officers of 1919; and, if so, when it will he presented to the House?

:I would refer the hon. Baronet to the answer which my right hon. Friend gave yesterday to a similar question by the hon. Member for the Stratford Division (Mr. Groves).

Women Police

asked the Home Secretary whether he proposes to increase the number of women police in the Metropolitan Police Force, and to carry out the other recommendations made by the committee recently appointed to report on the subject?

:As already stated in reply to a question on the 11th instant, steps are being taken to increase the number of Metropolitan Policewomen to 50. The committee's recommendations have been brought to the notice of all police authorities, and most of them deal with matters which I must leave to the local authorities' discretion.

Sentences of Death (Royal Prerogative)

asked the Home Secretary if he will consider the advisability of a small permanent committee being set up to assist him in deciding whether or not to recommend that the Royal prerogative of mercy should be exercised in the case of a person sentenced to death for murder?

:The Home Secretary, whose duty it is to decide whether in the case of a person sentenced to death there is sufficient ground for advising an exercise of the prerogative or not, is always able to obtain from different sources, including the Judge who tried the case, such advice as may be of the most assistance in arriving at a decision. My right hon. Friend does not think a permanent committee to which all cases should be referred would be likely to make his task any easier.

Pensions (Increase) Act

asked the Home Secretary whether he is aware of the undue delay by some local authorities in paying the increases of pensions granted by the Pensions (Increase) Act, 1924; and whether he will expedite payment in backward areas, so that all increases may be received by the pensioners before Christmas?

:All police authorities were asked in August last by my predecessor to assess and pay the increases granted by the Pensions (Increase) Act, 1924, without avoidable delay, and so far as I am aware no undue delay has occurred. I have received a complaint regarding a delay in making payments in one force, but I find on inquiry that payment was made last week to all the pensioners concerned. I should add that in the larger forces it may be impossible, owing to the number of cases to be dealt with, to dispose finally of all the oases before Christmas, but I have no doubt that every effort is being made to do so.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether, in view of the near approach of Christmas, he will see that all pre-War pensioners entitled to an increase in their pensions under the recent Act, extending in certain cases the financial provisions of the Pensions (Increase) Act, shall receive their increases without further delay?

:I am informed that awards have been made by the Government Departments concerned except in a relatively small number of cases in which the applications were incomplete or which raised points of special difficulty. Every effort is being made to expedite the settlement of these outstanding cases.

asked the Home Secretary whether he is aware that the retrospective effect of the Pensions (Increase) Act, 1924, is not being applied in the case of pensioners residing abroad; and whether he will issue instructions that the full provisions of the Act shall be operated?

:My right hon. Friend is advised that Section 2 of the Act of 1924, which repeals the requirement in the Act of 1920 that a pensioner must reside in the British Isles, takes effect as from 7th August last, when the Act of 1924 was passed, and police authorities have accordingly been instructed to grant increases as from that date, and not from 1st July, 1923, to pensioners residing abroad who may Be eligible.

asked the Home Secretary whether he is aware that local authorities vary considerably in their methods of calculating the increases of pensions due under the Pensions (Increase) Act, 1924; and will he issue memoranda standardising the method of calculation?

:Revised Regulations have already been issued, and, so far as I am aware, the manner in which the increases should be calculated is well understood by the police authorities.

Register House Clerks, Scotland

asked the Secretary for Scotland whether the older Register House clerks in Scotland are to enjoy the benefits of the arrangement recently come to as to retiring gratuities for the older men in the County Court staff in England, namely, that they should receive the usual gratuity, plus 100 per cent.; and, if not, whether he is prepared to consider legislation which would give them similar benefits?

:The answer to the first part of the question is in the negative. The circumstances with regard to the Register House clerks are different from those with regard to the County Court clerks affected by the recent re-organisation of the County Courts in England, and it is not proposed to introduce legislation in the direction suggested by the hon. and gallant Member.

Conference, Scotland

asked the Secretary for Scotland when he proposes to announce the composition of the Con- ference on Agriculture in Scotland; what will be the terms of reference; and whether crofters and smallholders, as well as large farmers, will be represented?

:I would refer the right hon. Member to the reply that I gave on Thursday last, in which I stated the terms of reference and the steps that are being taken for the constitution of the Conference. The names of the members of the Conference will be announced as soon as they have all been selected.

Hop Control

asked the Minister of Agriculture whether he is in a position to state the numbers of staff at present employed by the Hop Control; and, if so, the number of such staff and the cost of the Hop Controller's administration?

:I regret that I am unable to give information as to details of the Hop Controller's administration, or particular items from the hop control accounts. These are not public accounts and have never been published. I would also remind my hon. and gallant Friend that the administration of the control involves no charge on public funds. I should be pleased, however, to give my hon. and gallant Friend information on the general policy and operation of the control if he would communicate with me on the subject.

School-Leaving Age

asked the President of the Board of Education the number of local education authorities who have availed themselves of the power to raise the school-leaving age to 15 years, and the names of such local authorities; and what steps he intends to take to urge upon all local education authorities with a view to the development of a uniform system throughout the country?

:I have sanctioned bye-laws made by two local authorities under Section 46 (2) of the Education Act, 1921. The local authorities in question are Carnarvon and East Suffolk. With regard to the second part of the question, I have the whole matter under consideration, but I am not in a position to make any statement at present.

British Empire Exhibition

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Overseas Trade Department whether it is intended to arrange that teachers and school children from all parts of the country may visit the British Empire Exhibition in 1925; and, if so, is it intended to announce at an early date that grant will be paid for absence from school, that cheap travelling facilities, and the provision of suitable and reasonable accommodation in London will be provided, so that immediately after the reopening day they may be ready to take full advantage of such arrangements?

:I am much obliged to the hon. Member for calling my attention to this matter, and I can assure him that my Department is already sympathetically considering it in conjunction with the Board of Education. An announcement on the subject will be made as soon as possible.

Yorkshire

asked the Secretary for Mines what was the total output of coal in Yorkshire in 1913 and 1923; what was the profit on each ton of coal; what were the number of people employed and the total wages; what were the number of fatal accidents and non-fatal accidents in the county during each of those years; and what were the total amounts received by royalty owners and paid by them from those receipts in local rates in 1913 and 1923?

:The information is as follows:

1913.

1923.

Output (tons)

43,671,000

46,467,000

Number of persons employed.

160,398

187,421

Number of persons killed.

196

205

Number of persons disabled for more than 7 days.

24,023

34,100

Statistics

asked the Secretary for Mines the amount of coal raised in the United Kingdom, the number of persons employed in the coal-mining industry, the amount raised per head, and the average price at the pit mouth for the years 1913, 1922 and 1923, respectively?

:The information asked for is as follows:

Year.

Output of Coal in Great Britain.

Number of persons employed in coalmining.

Average Output of coal per Person Employed

Average proceeds per ton disposable commercially.

Tons.

Tons.

s.

d.

1913

287,347,952

1,104,406

260

11

1922

249,606,864

1,148,469

217

19

1½†

1923

276,000,560

1,203,290

229

19

9½†

٭ Approximate.

† The returns on which these figures are based included wagon revenue in 1922 but not in 1923. A deduction of about 4d. should be made from the former figure to make it comparable with the latter.

Northumberland and Durham

asked the Secretary for Mines the number of pits that are closed in Northumberland and Durham?

:At the 6th December, which is the latest date for which information is available in my Department, 20 pits normally employing 6,962 wage-earners were closed in Northumberland and 55 pits employing 17,943 wage-earners in Durham.

Passports and Visas

who failed to hand in his name asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether there is any necessity to charge one shilling a year up to five years for the renewal of passports; and whether a uniform fee of one shilling would cover all the expenses?

:Prior to 1st December the total cost of a passport over the full period of 10 years from the date of issue was 15s. 6d., viz., 7s. 6d. on issue, valid for two years, and 2s. for each renewal of two years. Passports are now issued valid for five years at the same fee (7s. 6d.), and renewable up to a further five years at a fee of 1s. per year; making a total of 12s. 6d. The total fees for the issue and renewal of each passport have thus been reduced by 3s. It is too early to measure accurately the effect of this reduction on the total receipts from passport fees, but I have little doubt that the further reduction suggested by the hon. Member would result in the expenses exceeding the receipts.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether, if it proves impossible to reach an arrangement with the Government of the United States of America for the abolition of visas between these two nations, representations will be made to٭ the United States Government to discontinue the necessity of requiring bankers' references for those who present a British passport, involving applicants in many cases in two visits to the Consulate for one visa?