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Volume 205: debated on Wednesday 13 April 1927

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Written Answers

Air Services

Southampton-Cherbourg

asked the Secretary of State for Air what steps the negotiations have reached between the Air Ministry and the French authorities for a seaplane service between Southampton, Le Havre, Le Touquet, Deauville, and other French ports and resorts?

The only communications which have passed between the Air Ministry and the French authorities on this subject have been those relating to Cherbourg, in regard to which I would refer my Noble Friend to my reply to the hon. and gallant Member for Central Southwark (Colonel Day) on 24th November last. The question of a seaplane service to the other French ports and resorts mentioned is one primarily for the consideration of Imperial Airways, Limited, who, I have no doubt, bear constantly in mind such possible extensions of their services as those referred to in the question.

Basra-Karachi

asked the Secretary of State for Air if he is aware that the proposed imperial air service on the Basra-Karachi section of the new Empire air route between Egypt and India has been postponed from 6th April, and if he can state the reason for this postponement; and whether any official action has been taken to facilitate the service?

I would refer the hon. Member to the replies given to my hon. and gallant Friend the Member for Hallam (Sir F. Sykes) and my hon. Friend the Member for Kingston-upon-Hull, East (Mr. Lumley), on 30th March and 6th April, respectively.

Royal Air Force

asked the Secretary of State for Air the numbers of persons of foreign nationality and Asiatic race who are receiving training in the Royal Air Force?

Parkhurst Convict Prison

asked the Home Secretary whether the privilege of obtaining educational works from the central library for students in Bloomsbury, through the Isle of Wight county library at Newport, has been granted to prisoners in the convict prison at Parkhurst by arrangement with the Isle of Wight county education authority; whether the arrangement is still operative and, if not, for what reason it has been discontinued; and whether he will direct its resumption?

There was such an arrangement, but it depended upon the voluntary and kindly co-operation of a private individual, and unfortunately has lapsed. I have no power to direct its resumption.

Lost Property

asked the Home Secretary the number of articles that have been found and handed in to the Lost Property Office at Scotland Yard, or at any police station throughout the Metropolitan area, the number of articles claimed by the persons having lost them, and the articles unclaimed, for the 12 months ended to the last convenient date?

During the year 1926, 170,257 articles found in public carriages were deposited with the police. Of these, 68,765 were restored to the losers and 101,492 were unclaimed. I am not in a position to give corresponding figures with regard to articles found in the streets, which could only be obtained with great labour and research.

Reformatory And Industrial Schools (Fighting Services)

asked the Home Secretary the number of boys and youths who during the last two years have on leaving industrial schools, reformatories, and Borstal institutions, respectively, joined either the Army or the Navy?

The number of boys from reformatory and industrial schools who joined the Navy, Army or Air Force during the last two years was 162 and 166, respectively. There were none from Borstal institutions.

Government Departments

Surveyors, Architects And Draughts-Men

asked the Financial Secretary to the Treasury the number of ex-temporary technical officers employed as surveyors, architects, and draughts-men who have been established since 1920, showing the number who have been given a starting salary, inclusive of cost-of-living bonus, equivalent to the late temporary scale of pay; and the number who have been given a starting salary, inclusive of cost-of-living bonus, which was an immediate increase over their old temporary rates of pay?

Approximately 500 persons have been appointed to established posts as surveyors, architects, and draughtsmen since 1920. Detailed particulars as to their previous employment and as to their starting pay on establishment could not be made available without special inquiry, which would not, I think, be justified.

Southborough Candidates (Appointments)

asked the Financial Secretary to the Treasury the number of qualified Southborough candidates who have been appointed to established posts to 31st January, 1927; and whether he can indicate the numbers appointed to the various departments in the Civil Service to the same date?

The number of qualified Southborough candidates appointed to established posts up to and including the 31st January, 1927, is 5,774; the corresponding figure up to and including the 31st March, 1927, is 7,173. I regret that the information asked for in the second part of the question is not available.

Compensation For Disturbance

asked the Financial Secretary to the Treasury whether a person employed in an established capacity in the permanent Civil Service of the State who, on the abolition of his office and on appointment to another office in a public Department, suffers direct pecuniary loss of a permanent and pensionable allowance paid for duty in the office abolished in addition to the usual salary of his grade, subject to the general provisions of the Superannuation Acts, will be granted, either under Section 7 of the Superannuation Act, 1859, or under Section 6 of the Superannuation Act, 1909, a compensation allowance based on the length of his service and the total emoluments of the office abolished, and will be paid under Section 20 of the Superannuation Act, 1834, that compensation allowance, or so much thereof as, together with the emoluments of the second office, does not exceed in amount the total emoluments of the office abolished?

I am unable to answer a hypothetical question of this character. Whether an award of compensation would be made in the contingency referred to would depend upon all the circumstances of the particular case.

Income Tax-Payers

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many Income Tax-payers have an unearned income of more than £500 per annum?

Civil Research Committee

asked the Prime Minister what is the constitution of the Civil Research Committee; who are its officials; how many meetings it has held; and what subjects it has investigated during the last 12 months?

The terms of reference and constitution of the Committee of Civil Research were set out in a Treasury Minute of the 13th June, 1925, which has been presented to Parliament (Cmd. 2440). It would be contrary to established practice to furnish any additional information.

Contributory Pensions Act

asked the Minister of Health whether a War widow who has been deprived of her pension under the Orders in Council or Royal Warrants owing to the birth of an illegitimate child, is eligible to receive a widow's pension under the Widows', Orphans' and Old Age Contributory Pensions Act if she is not cohabiting with a man and has children under the age of 14 by her husband, who at his death was an insured person?

asked the Minister of Health whether the widow of a man who before the appointed day was aged 65 or over, and had paid 39 contributions in each of the two contribution years immediately prior to the 2nd January, 1927, will be eligible for an old age pension on 2nd January, 1927, if she be 65 years of age?

No, Sir, but, subject to the fulfilment of the statutory conditions, the widow will already have become entitled before 2nd January, 1928, to a widow's pension, which will continue to be payable, provided she does not remarry, until she reaches the age of 70, when an old age pension will become payable.

Cellar Dwellings, Liverpool

asked the Minister of Health whether he is aware that more than 1,000 cellar dwellings still exist within the city of Liverpool; and the reasons why legislation passed in 1908 for the abolition of these cellar dwellings has not been put into operation?

If the hon. Member is referring to cellar still in occupation as dwellings, the information before my right hon. Friend does not confirm the suggestion made in the first part of the question. It is understood that the Corporation take the necessary steps to deal with any cellars found to be occupied as dwellings.

Mercantitle Marine (Hours Of Labour)

asked the President of the Board of Trade (1) whether the opposition by the representative of the British Government on the executive committee of the International Labour Office at the session held at Geneva at the end of January last to the discussion of the question of limitation of hours worked by officers and men of the mercantile marine represents the official policy of the Government;(2) whether he is aware that over 500 vessels, from 2,000 to 5,000 tons, owned by over 100 different shipowning firms, carry only two navigating officers, and are therefore worked on the two-watch system; and whether, under these circumstances, the opposition of the Government to the discussion of hours of labour at sea at Geneva will be withdrawn?

The attitude taken up by the representative of His Majesty's Government on the governing body of the International Labour Office on the question of hours of labour at sea was in accordance with the instructions of the Government, which is of opinion that such part of that question as requires to be dealt with should be settled nationally by agreement between employers and employed before commencing an international discussion. I am aware that a certain number of ships are worked on the two-watch system, but I have no official figures showing the exact number.

Trade And Commerce

Balance Of Trade

asked the President of the Board of Trade what are the most recent estimates of the balance of trade from the year 1922 to the latest year for which figures are available?

The balances of income and expenditure in the transactions (other than lending and repayment of capital) between the United Kingdom and all other countries have been estimated as follow:

Million £
1922Credit Balance154
1923do.153
1924do.86
1925do.54
1926Debit Balance12
These figures should only be regarded as approximations and as subject to the considerations set forth in the article in the Board of Trade Journal for 27th January, 1927, a copy of which I am sending to my hon. Friend.

Egypt (Imports And Exports)

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Overseas Trade Department if he will give the figures of Egyptian trade on the same basis as given in the Department of Overseas Trade Report on Egypt, 1926, that is, total exports, including re-exports, and

YearImports.Exports (Including Re-exports).Imports of—
Total.Of which from the British Empire.Total.Of which to the British Empire.Iron and Steel Manufactures.Machinery and Loco-motives.
£1,000.£1,000.£1,000.£1.000.£1,000.£1,000.
189811,3204,68412,6395,835647381
189911,7405,15716,3068,650647469
190014,4796,30117,8059,718942514
190115,6426,75316,8288,557772546
190215,2016,51218,7919,786858472
190317,1897,05320,32810,7471,026610
190421,0958,41121,63611,5311,204915
190522,1268,25121,21611,2201,210878
190624,6369,26225,97613,9321,8211,237
190726,80110,04829,19815,8212,0211,097
190825,7549,78922,25911,6611,296818
190922,8098,10027,18313,658984546
191024,1668,66930,15714,8971,280532
191127,93610,16929,73614,5281,485782
191226,5839,81335,93516,6821,447891
191328,59110,76533,08014,2631,6741,088
191422,2918,77025,17811,0721,290934
191519,86911,21528,29215,015561261
191631,94819,77639,01521,177918395
191734,03920,22442,67326,1591,086329
191852,48735,87147,96632,3602,130442
191948,64528,32682,28442,6131,916746
1920104,53450,03890,31138,8685,1143,266
192156,95323,29843,59018,9442,4333,280

The exports and re-exports of iron and steel and manufactures thereof and of machinery from Egypt are of comparatively little importance.The value of these exports in 1898, 1913 and 1921 was as follows:

Iron and Steel and Manufactures thereof.Machinery.
££
18981,000Nil.
191322,00020,000
1921101,000114,000

total imports; imports from the British Empire; exports to the British Empire for the years 1898 to 1921; and iron and steel manufactures and engineering imports and exports for the same years?

The following statement shows the total value of the Import and Export trade of Egypt, distinguishing the value of (a) the trade with the British Empire and (b) the imports of iron and steel manufactures and of machinery and locomotives respectively, in each of the years 1898 to 1921:

Machine Guns (Exports)

asked the President of the Board of Trade what applications for the export of machine guns have been made since 19th June, 1925, together with the names of the applicants; the reply in each case; and the destination in the case of applications granted.

pursuant to his reply [OFFICIAL REPORT, 5th April, 1927; col. 1853, Vol. 204] supplied the following particulars:

THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT gives particulars of the applications for licences to export machine guns to foreign countries received during the period 1st June, 1925, to 31st March, 1927, which have been disposed of. Three applications are still under consideration.
Application received.Quantity and Description.Whether licence was issued.Destination.
15th June, 19251 machine gunIssuedPoland.
16th June, 19251 machine gunIssuedGreece.
17th June,19258 machine gunsIssuedItaly.
19th June, 19256 machine gunsIssued.Abyssinia.
29th June,192554 machine gunsIssued.Chile.
25th July,19251 machine gunIssued.Greece.
8th August, 19251 machine gunIssued.U.S.A.
20th August, 192518 machine gunsIssued.Argentine.
22nd August, 19251 machine gunIssued.Roumania.
26th August, 19251 machine gunIssued.Bulgaria.
29th August,19251 machine gunIssued.Brazil.
17th September, 19251 semi-auto rifleIssuedU.S.A.
30th September, 19253 machine gunsIssuedRoumania.
9th October, 19252 machine riflesIssuedJapan.
16th October, 19251,200 Lewis gunsNot issued
19thOctober, 19252 sub-machine gunsIssuedPoland.
l0th November, 19253 machinegunsIssuedPortuguese East Africa
14th November, 19252 machine gunsIssuedFinland.
28th November, 192512 machine gunsIssuedArgentine.
21st November, 192510 Lewis gunsIssuedArgentine.
2nd December, 1925165 machine gunsIssuedJapan.
3rd December, 192516 machine gunsIssuedDenmark.
3rd December, 19252 machine gunsIssuedFinland.
4th December, 19253machineriflesIssuedU.S.A.
4th December, 19252 machine riflesIssuedBelgium.
4th December, 19251 machine gunIssuedDenmark.
17th December, 19255 machine gunsIssuedChile.
17th December, 19252 machine gunsIssuedPortugal.
23rd December, 19252 machine guns, 4 Lewis guns.IssuedPortuguese East Indies.
23rd December, 19253 machine gunsIssuedFrance.
24th December, 192550 machine gunsIssuedLithuania.
31st December, 192560 Lewis guns, 20 machine guns.IssuedBelgium.
1st January, 19261 machine rifleIssuedPeru.
1st January, 19261 machine gunIssuedPortugal.
1st January, 1926100 machine gunsIssuedJapan.
1st January, 19264 machine gunsIssuedLatvia.
8th January, 19262 machine riflesIssuedFinland.
12th January, 19261 machine gunIssuedFinland.
14th January, 19261 Lewis gunIssuedPeru.
15th January, 19263 machine gunsIssuedPortuguese East Africa.
20th January, 19266 machinegunsIssuedItaly.
26th January, 19264 machine gunsIssuedLatvia.
27th January, 192624 machine gunsIssuedHolland.
28th January, 19262 Lewis gunsIssuedS.H.S.
13th February, 192625 machine gunsIssuedChile.
15th February, 19262 machine gunsIssuedPoland.
27th February, 19261 machine gunIssuedPortugal.
2nd March, 19265 machine gunsIssuedChile.
11th March, 192612 Lewis gunsIssuedGreece.
18th March, 19261 sub-machine gunIssuedBelgium.
15th April, 19261 auto. rifleIssuedU.S.A.
20th April, 19262 machine rifles, 1 machine gunIssuedPortugal.
29th April, 19261 sub-machine gunIssuedU.S.A.
29th April, 19261 semi-auto. rifleIssuedU.S.A.
29th April, 19262 auto. riflesIssuedU.S.A.
30th April, 1926100 machine riflesIssuedLatvia.

Application received.Quantity and Description.Whether licence was issued.Destination
6th May, 19264 machine gunsIssuedTurkey.
7th May, 192652 machine gunsIssuedChile.
15th May, 19263 machine guns, 1 machine rifleIssuedSiam.
20th May, 19261 sub-machine gunIssuedBrazil.
20th May, 19261 sub-machine gunIssuedBelgium.
20th May, 19265 machine gunsIssuedSweden.
1st June, 192613 machine riflesIssuedPortugal.
18th June, 19263 machine gunsIssuedLatvia.
3rd July, 192640 machine gunsIssuedJapan.
3rd July, 19262 sub-machine gunsIssuedU.S.A.
10th July, 19261 machine gunIssuedPortugal.
20th July, 19263 machineguns,4 auto. riflesIssuedRoummania.
22nd July, 19261 machine gunIssuedSweden.
6th August, 19261 auto. rifleIssuedSweden.
10th August, 1926125 Lewis gunsIssuedArgentine.
11th August, 19261 machine gunIssuedItaly.
1st September, 19266 machine guns, 24 Lewis gunsIssuedAbyssinia.
2nd September, 19262 machine gunsIssuedFrance.
l5th September, 1926100 machine gunsIssuedPoland.
25th September, 19262 machine gunsIssuedFinland.
27th September, 19264 machine gunsIssuedJapan.
27th September, 19262 sub-machine gunsNot Issued.
29th September, 192648 machine gunsIssuedArgentine.
29th September, 19262 machine gunsIssuedArgentine.
30th September, 19263 machine gunsIssuedGreece.
9th October, 19261 machine gunIssuedGreece.
11th October, 19264 machine gunsIssuedPortugal.
16th November, 19261 machine gunIssuedNorway.
4th December, 19264 machine gunsIssuedHolland.
4th December, 19268 machine gunsIssuedHolland.
6th December, 192615 Lewis gunsIssuedJapan.
7th December, 192613 machine gunsIssuedSpain.
8th December, 19261 machine gunIssuedNorway.
8th December, 19264 machine gunsIssuedHolland.
11th December, 19268 Lewis gunsIssuedPortuguese East Africa.
13th December, 19262 Lewis gunsIssuedBrazil.
24th December, 19266 machine riflesIssuedPortuguese West Africa
29th December, 19262 machine gunsIssuedU.S.A.
10th January, 1927250 Lewis gunsLicence withdrawn
6th January, 19271 machine gunIssuedFrance.
13th January,19273 machine gunsIssuedRoumania.
19th January, 19272 machine gunsIssuedPoland.
28th January, 19272 machine gunsIssuedTurkey.
1st February, 19272 Lewis gunsIssuedDenmark.
2nd February, 1927120 machine gunsIssuedFinland.
2nd February, 19271 machine gunIssuedEsthonia.
15th February, 19271 machine gunIssuedEsthonia.
19th February, 192760 Lewis gunsIssuedJapan.
23rd February, 19271 machine gunIssuedEsthonia.
23rd February, 19275 machine gunsIssuedJapan.
10th March,192712 Lewis gunsIssuedMacao.
15th March, 19272 machine gunsIssuedPoland.
30th March, 19272 machine riflesIssuedLithuania.

Unemployment

Aged Workers

asked the Minister of labour whether he will call for a Return of the number of men and women over 70 years of age who are contributing towards the Unemployment Insurance Fund, giving the number of such persons who have been refused benefit on the ground that they are not likely to secure further employment, and that they are in receipt of old age pensions?

No, Sir; the expense of obtaining such a Return would be prohibitive.

Miners Unemployed

asked the Minister of Labour the number of miners unemployed on 31st March, 1927?

At 21st March, 1927, the latest date for which figures are available, the number of insured persons classified as belonging to the coal mining industry recorded as unemployed in Great Britain was 205,751, of whom 121,385 were wholly unemployed and 84,366 were temporarily stopped.

State-Aided Relief Schemes

asked the Minister of Labour the number of persons employed upon unemployment schemes undertaken with Government assistance for the years 1921, 1922, 1923, 1924, 1925, and 1926, respectively?

The returns of persons employed on State-aided

Hosiery Industry—Great Britain.
Date.Estimated numbers insured.Percentages of insured persons recorded as unemployed.
Wholly unemployed.Temporary stoppages.Total.
27th July, 192596,960**9·8
25th July, 192697,2204·211·415·6
21st March, 1927*2·74·87·5
*Figures not available.
The percentages for 21st March, 1927, are calculated on the basis of the numbers insured at 25th July, 1926.

Training Centres, Claydon And Brandon

asked the Minister of Labour (1) whether he can state in regard to the trainees at Claydon and Brandon, respectively, whose training was terminated for unsatisfactory conduct, the ages, the numbers of ex-service men, the number of married men, and the periods for which they had been unemployed; and whether there is any explanation of the fact that whilst at Brandon the number whose conduct was unsatisfactory was 4·8 per cent, of the relief schemes are received monthly, and relate in the main to the last Saturday in each month Statistics on a comparable basis are not available prior to October, 1923. The average number of persons so employed during the last three months of 1923 was 71,473, and for the years 1924, 1925 and 1926 the monthly average was 89,088, 104,214 and 87,968. The figures include persons employed on schemes assisted by the Unemployment Grants Committee, the Ministry of Transport and on schemes guaranteed under the Trade Facilities Acts, etc., but take no account of the employment provided indirectly, e.g., in the preparation and transport of materials.

Hosiery Trade

asked the Minister of Labour the total number of persons employed in the hosiery trade in July, 1925, and July, 1926, and give the percentage of workers unemployed and partially employed, respectively, in that industry at those dates and at this date?

The following table gives the information desired:total, at Claydon it amounted to 10·8 per cent.;(2) whether he can explain why, seeing that all trainees must before entering be passed as medically fit, the number whose training was terminated at Brandon for ill-health was 9·2 per cent., whilst at Claydon it was only 5·1 per cent,; whether he can state for each farm the nature of the ill-health, the ages, the number of ex-service men, the number of married men, the periods for which they had been unemployed, and in how many cases unemployment benefit had been refused on the ground that it was not in the public interest that it should be received?

I regret that the information as to age and other particulars of the men discharged on grounds of health or conduct is not available, but there is no reason to think that they differed in these respects from the general run of the men, who are single men on admission and are between the ages of 18 and 25, except for the very few ex-service men, who are admitted up to the age of 29. The differences in percentages to which the hon. Member refers are largely due to the fact that there is a greater proportion of overseas men at Brandon than at Claydon. The standard of physical fitness required of them is higher and unsatisfactory conduct has been found to be less frequent among them than among the handymen.

China

British Subjects, Canton

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs how many British women and children have been ordered to leave Canton City; and how many have proceeded to Hong Kong or other places in China?

I have no information on the subject, except that the Consul-General is doing his best to reduce the numbers at Canton.

Sir Francis Aglen

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether he has received any Report from our diplomatic representatives in China to the effect that the Cantonese Government has expressed its disapproval of the dismissal by the Peking Government of Sir Francis Aglen from his post as inspector general of maritime customs; and whether he will discuss with the Cantonese Government the reinstatement of Sir Francis Aglen in the areas controlled by it?

I have not received any report to this effect I do not consider that any useful purpose would be served by discussing this matter with the Cantonese Government.

Shanghai (Shantung Troops)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what action has been taken with regard to the Shantung troops who took refuge in the international settlement at Shanghai; whether they are still in the settlement; and, if not, where have they been conveyed?

Northern troops approaching the defensive lines around the International Settlement and surrendering to the foreign forces were disarmed, and, I understand, handed over to the municipal authorities, I have no information as to their subsequent movements.

British Trawler "Quercia"

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether he took any action on the Report received regarding the treatment of the British trawler "Quercia" by Norwegian patrol boats outside territorial waters; and whether there has been any satisfactory outcome of his action, including definite assurances that Norwegian patrol boats will not in future molest British ships in the exercise of their fishing rights?

It has been necessary to make further investigations into the case, and action has had to be deferred in consequence. I hope to be in a position to make considered representations very shortly.

Gas Warfare (Russia)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether his attention has been called to a declaration of the Government of the Union of Soviet Republics indicating its willingness to renounce preparation of poison gases provided other countries are prepared to do likewise; and whether His Majesty's Government has decided to take such steps as may lead to this subject being discussed at the forthcoming disarmament conference?

The answer to both parts of the question is in the negative. If the hon. Member will refer to the answer given on the 15th ultimo by my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for War to the hon. and gallant Member for Wycombe (Sir A. Knox), he will see that, according to the information in the possession of His Majesty's Government, much greater preparations for gas warfare were being made in Russia than anywhere else in the world.