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Written Answers

Volume 219: debated on Tuesday 26 June 1928

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Written Answers

National Health Insurance

asked the Minister of Health whether any approved societies during 1927 were compelled to realise assets to meet expenditure on benefit claims; and, if so, what is the approximate sum so realised?

The answer to the first question is in the affirmative. As regards the second, the amount of investments required to be realised by approved societies in England and Wales owing to heavy claims for sickness and disablement benefit and the large sums expended on additional benefits out of past surpluses is approximately £950,000.

Poor Law (Inspectors)

asked the Minister of Health how many chief and assistant Poor Law inspectors were employed by the Local Government Board during the year 1914 and the number employed by the Ministry of Health at the present time, showing the number employed in the Metropolis during both periods; what salaries, maximum and minimum, were paid these officials in 1914 and the amounts paid at the present time; what pension rights attach to these offices; what is the period of service which entitles to a pension; are the pensions on a contributory or non-contributory basis; what previous Poor Law experience any of the present inspectors and assistant inspectors possessed on appointment; and who is responsible for selecting and appointing to those positions?

Fourteen general and four assistant general inspectors were employed by the Local Government Board in 1914, of whom one general and three assistant general inspectors were employed in the Metropolis. The present numbers are 12 and 11, respectively, of whom two general inspectors and seven assistant general inspectors hold acting appointments only; one general and four assistant general inspectors are at present employed in the Metropolis. In 1914 the scale for general inspectors was £600–£900 a year, and for the assistants £500 fixed; the substantive scales are now £700–£1,000, and £300–£600 for the two grades, respectively. These officers are, like other civil servants, pension-able under the Superannuation Acts, which provide for non-contributory pensions payable on retirement after the age of 60, or on account of permanent infirmity after service of not less than 10 years. The present inspectors and assistant inspectors did not possess Poor Law experience prior to appointment. The Minister of Health for the time being is responsible for the selection and appointment of officers for these posts.

Vaccination

asked the Minister of Health the numbers of births and vaccinations for the years 1922 to 1926, inclusive, for the areas covered by the Newcastle-on-Tyne Poor Law Union and the Walker Ward of the Tynemouth Union, and for the Tynemouth Union as a whole?

The following statement gives the information required:

Area.Year.Births registered.Number of these children successfully vaccinated.
Newcastle-upon Tyne Poor Law Union19226,9183,685
19236,4073,844
19246,4754,135
19256,5044,406
19266,1934,221
Walker Ward of the Tynemouth Poor Law Union1922515266
1923555340
1924496307
1925526307
1926536359
Tynemouth Poor Law Union19225,5261,945
19235,6512,530
19245,3702,308
19255,2242,180
19265,0072,198

West Africa (Alcoholic Liquors, Imports)

asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies whether he is aware that there is great and increasing importation of intoxicating liquors into the West African Dependencies, amounting, in the case of the Gold Coast, to 1,000 per cent. increase in 10 years, to the detriment of the natives; that the laxity of the permit system, among other causes, is blamed for this; and whether he will inquire into this state of affairs?

I am aware that, with the recovery of trade since the War and the increase in the prosperity of the people, the importation of alcoholic liquors has increased in the past ten years. The increase, however, does not amount to 1,000 per cent. in any case, but to rather less than 500 per cent. in the case of the Gold Coast, where there has been a large increase in the consumption of ale, beer and wines as distinct from spirits. As compared with pre-War years, the importations of liquor show a great decrease. The total importations of all kinds of liquor into the four West African Colonies amounted to 7,910,329 gallons in 1913, as compared with 5,351,551 in 1927. If spirits alone are considered, in 1913 over 7,000,000 gallons were imported, while in 1927 the total quantity was less than 2,000,000 gallons, showing that the chief increase, from under 1,000,000 gallons to over 3,000,000 gallons, has been in the shape of beverages of lower alcoholic content. Close attention is paid to the importation of spirits, and the situation is carefully watched by the Colonial Governments.

Wool Textile Operatives (Wages)

asked the Minister of Labour whether he can give particulars of the rates of wages paid to wool-textile operatives in Belgium, France, Germany, and Italy, and the rate paid for similar work in this country?

The information in my possession is insufficient to provide a basis for comprehensive statistical comparison, bus I am sending to my hon. Friend the most recent particulars available for the countries specified.

Domestic Workshops

asked the Minister of Labour the number of domestic workshops in England and Wales and the approximate number of persons employed?

I regret I am not in a position to furnish the hon. Member with the figures desired. It has not been the practice to separate "domestic" workshops from ordinary workshops in the Factory Department registers; and it would be very difficult to do so satisfactorily as these workshops constantly change from the one class into the other, as a result of the temporary employment of outside hands.

India

Detenus

asked the Under-Secretary of State for India the number of persons at present detained in prison, or otherwise held under restraint, in India under Regulation III of the 1818 Act?

If the hon. Member will be good enough to repeat his question next Monday, I will endeavour to furnish the information he desires.

Royal Commission On Agriculture

asked the Under-Secretary of State for India whether the final Report of the Royal Commission on Agriculture in India has been signed and, if so, how long the Report has been in the hands of the Government; and when it is proposed to make public the findings and recommendations of the Royal Commission?

The Report has been signed, and copies were received on 4th June. It will be published to-morrow.

League Of Nations Assembly (British Delegation)

asked the Prime Minister, in view of the late President Wilson's statement, on behalf of himself and the representatives of the Allied and Associated Powers, that public opinion would not be satisfied by the appointment of purely party delegations to the

Department.Class of Goods.Value of Foreign Goods purchased during the Financial year. 1927–28.Percentage which the figure in the second column bears to the value of the total purchases in respect of that item of expenditure during the same year.
£Per cent.
Board of Agriculture forTimber14,000100
Scotland.Glassware and Scientific instruments.138
Fishery Board for ScotlandScientific apparatus3710
National Library of ScotlandBooks and MSS.10211·5

Scotland

Foreign Goods (Purchases, Government Departments)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland the value of any foreign goods purchased during the past year by or on behalf of any of the departments he administers; and what percentage this bears to the total?

The following table gives the information for which the hon. Member asks:year 1927–28; the approximate area drained, distinguishing arable from pastoral acres; and what amount will be available for this purpose during the year 1928–29?

The grants paid during the year 1927–28 amounted to £8,371; the approximate areas drained were 2,500 acres of arable land and 40,000 acres of pastoral land; and the amount authorised for the scheme in 1928–29 is £13,012.

Government Departments

War Office

asked the Secretary of State for War the reason for the increase from £650, allowed in 1914 to the Secretary of State for private secretaries, to £2,851, the provision made in the Estimates for 1928 for the Secretary of State's personal staff?

The total sum provided for the salaries and allowances of the private secretaries to the Secretary of State in the Estimates for 1914 amounted to £1,620. The comparable figure in the Estimates for 1928 is £2,072, the increase being mainly due to cost-of-living bonus. The £650 in 1914 referred to in the question represented allowances only, and did not cover the normal salaries of the private secretaries, nor did it include the pay of confidential shorthand writers.

asked the Secretary of State for War, seeing that there were only six members of the Army Council in 1914, if he will state the duties and emoluments of the seventh member of the Council for whom provision is made in the current Estimates, and the reason for the increase in the number of members of the Council, having regard to the reduction in the numbers of the Regular and Territorial Armies?

The seventh member of the Army Council is the Permanent Under-Secretary of State for War. He is the permanent civilian head of the War Office, Accounting Officer for Army Votes, and Secretary to the Army Council. His emoluments are £3,000 a year. No new office has been created by this appointment, the only change being that by a decision of the Government in 1920 the permanent civilian head of the Department was made directly responsible to the Secretary of State for the control of expenditure, and for this purpose was given the status of a full member of the Council. The circumstances in which the Government decided upon this step are set out in the Fourth Report of the Public Accounts Committee for 1920 (House of Commons Paper 231).

asked the Secretary of State for War, seeing that in 1914 the Army Estimates provided for a librarian at a cost of £650 and an assistant librarian at £230, if he can state the reason for the provision made in the Estimates for 1928 for one librarian at £672, a deputy-librarian at £432, and an assistant librarian at £279, and a library assistant at £273; and whether there is any other difference between the assistant librarian and the library assistant beyond the fact that the former has a maximum salary of £300, plus bonus, while the latter may only rise to £280?

In 1914 there was, in addition to the Librarian and Assistant Librarian of the General Staff Library to whom the hon. Member refers, a Library Assistant not shown separately in Estimates, as well as a Staff Clerk, shown in Estimates, 1914, under the Secretary's Department, in charge of the Parliamentary and Legal Library. The two libraries were amalgamated in 1919. With regard to the second part of the question, the maximum basic salaries of the Assistant Librarian and the Library Assistant are respectively £300 and £180. The qualifications required of, and the duties performed by, these two grades are in no way comparable.

Southborough Entrants

asked the Minister of Labour how many Southborough entrants are serving in his Department?

The number of Southborough entrants at present serving in the Ministry of Labour is 1,120.

Clerical Staffs, Plymouth And Devonport

asked the Financial Secretary to the Treasury the number of temporary female and male clerical staffs at present employed in each Government Department in Plymouth and Devonport, respectively?

Department.MaleFemale.Total.
Customs and Excise11
Inland Revenue44
Admiralty71879
War Office2222
Labour Ministry718
Health Ministry11
Pensions Ministry22
Agriculture and Fisheries11
10612118

Telephones, Rural Areas

asked the Postmaster-General what is the average cost of construction, exclusive of instruments, of a telephone line per mile in rural areas?

The average cost of construction of one mile of subscribers' light-pole route carrying one pair of wires in a rural area is about £80.

Transport

Dock Charges

asked the Minister of Transport whether since the Port of London Authority reduced its dock dues by 10 per cent. any other ports have made similar reductions; if so, which ports are they; and what is the percentage of the reduction in each case?

I presume that the hon. Member refers to the reductions, amounting to 10 per cent. and upwards, which the Port of London Authority made in their export rates applicable to certain classes of goods as from 1st May last. Dock charges generally are subject to maximum rates specified in Private Acts or Orders and the authorities concerned are free to vary their charges within these limits. I am not, therefore, in a position to furnish the information desired by the hon. Member.

asked the Minister of Transport whether he is aware that shipowners consider that British ports are handicapped, in comparison with Continental ports, by higher charges and slower despatch; and whether he will set up a Committee to inquire into this?

I understand that the matter to which the hon. Member refers has in recent years been the subject of investigations by Committees appointed by the Chamber of Shipping, in conjunction with the Association of the British Chambers of Commerce and the Federation of British Industries and by the Traders' Co-ordinating Committee on Dock Charges. These Committees reported in 1924 and 1926 respectively, and their findings have no doubt received the careful consideration of the dock authorities and others concerned. In the circumstances I see no sufficient ground for instituting a special inquiry into the matter.

River Tees

asked the Minister of Transport whether he has received any Report with regard to a new crossing of the River Tees by bridge or tunnel from Middlesbrough to the north bank; whether he is aware that there is great congestion across the present transporter; and whether, in view of the importance to Middlesbrough of the growth of new industries on the north bank of the Tees, he will cause some inquiry to be made which will facilitate progress in the matter?

I cannot trace the receipt of such a Report. While I am always prepared to consider schemes submitted by the responsible highway authorities for the improvement of traffic facilities, I feel that the Teeside authorities are capable of investigating the needs of their area without my holding an inquiry.

Vivisection

asked the Home Secretary the number of experiments in vivi- section carried on during 1927, performed with anæsthetics and without anæsthetics, respectively?

There were 13,871 experiments with anæsthetics and 279,431 without anæsthetics. The latter class of experiments were mostly inoculations and feeding experiments and in no case was an operative procedure more severe than simple inoculation allowed without an anæsthetic.

asked the Home Secretary the number of experiments in vivisection performed on animals which were kept alive for observation and/or further experiment; and how many dogs and cats were included in this class of experiment?

I presume that the hon. Member refers to experiments under Certificate B. (i.e., where the experimenter is relieved from the obligation to kill the animal before it recovers from the anæsthetic). There were 7,647 such experiments in 1927, of which 583 were on cats and dogs.

asked the Home Secretary the number of places registered in 1927 in Great Britain for conducting experiments in vivisection, and the number of persons licensed to conduct such experiments.

Police Constable Gutteridge

asked the Home Secretary whether it is proposed to recommend conferring any posthumous recognition in the case of Constable Gutteridge, of the Essex constabulary, who was murdered while in the execution of his duty.

Fishing Industry (Nets, Price)

asked the Minister of Agriculture whether he will institute an inquiry into the causes of the present prices of cotton nets used for pilchard and herring fishing, in view of the complaints of the fishermen on the matter.

As at present advised, I do not see my way to adopt the hon. Member's suggestion. I am satisfied that the present high price of nets is attributable to the cost of cotton, labour and overhead charges, and I do not think that anything material would be added to the information available by an inquiry.

Education

Denominational Secondary Schools

asked the President of the Board of Education how many denominational secondary schools were approved by the Board in 1925, 1926 and 1927, respectively, stating the religious denomination in each case and the number of places in each school.

The number of denominational secondary schools, with number of class room places, respectively, placed on the grant list by my Department in the years referred to was:

1925.—4Roman Catholic schools: 105, 240, 250, 300.
1926.—3Roman Catholic schools: 213, 300, 120.
*1Church of England school: 200.
1927.—5Roman Catholic schools: 150, 180, 176, 110, 150.
* This school withdrew from the Grant List before any grant was paid.
In addition, the following denominational secondary schools, with number of pupils on 1st October, 1927, respectively, were added to the Board's List of Efficient Secondary schools (not aided by grant):

1925.—5Church of England schools: 90, 308, 97, 382, 122.
2Roman Catholic schools: 92, 356.
1926.—2Church of England schools: 147, 119.
1927.—1Society of Friends' school: 87.
2Church of England schools: 110, 273.
3Roman Catholic schools: 163, 156, 79.

Mentally Defective Children

asked the President of the Board of Education the cost per child in special schools for mentally defective children as compared with the cost per child in primary schools, showing how the additional cost in special schools is made up.

The returns of local authorities do not enable me to supply the information asked for by the hon. Member. Special schools for mentally defective children are more costly to maintain than ordinary elementary schools because the schools themselves are generally not so large, the classes are necessarily smaller and the teachers receive, under the Burnham Scales, a special increment within the ordinary elementary scale.