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Written Answers

Volume 249: debated on Thursday 5 March 1931

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Written Answers

British Army

Barracks, Bradford

asked the Secretary of State for War whether he is aware that the disused Army barracks at Bradford Moor, Bradford, are objected to as unsightly by the residents of the Bradford Moor ward; and whether he is willing to negotiate with the mayor and corporation of Bradford for sale, on favourable terms, of the site of the baracks and the parade ground for a housing scheme or other similar purpose?

These barracks are no longer required by the military authorities, who have been in communication with the Bradford Corporation regarding their disposal. An offer from the corporation is at present awaited.

Flour And Bread (Costs)

asked the Financial Secretary to the War Office (1) the cost of flour and the cost of bread, after making full allowance for capital and other costs, in Army bakeries at Aldershot or in any other convenient centre in February, 1914, and in February, 1931, respectively;(2) the average cost per quartern loaf of bread baked in the Army bakeries at Aldershot, after making full allowance for capital and all other costs, including the cost of pay and maintenance of the enlisted labour employed, the average cost per quartern loaf of bread supplied on contract in the London area by the canteen board and by private contracts, respectively, and the corresponding retail price of bread of similar quality across the counter in ordinary retail shops in Aldershot and in London, respectively?

I regret that information as to the costs of Army bakeries in 1914 is not on record, but the latest available information for the present day is:

  • Cost of flour to the Aldershot bakeries: 8s. 11½d. per 100 lbs.
  • Cost of 4-lb. loaf there: 4½d. approximately.
It would not be in accordance with custom to state the exact contract price of bread supplied to the Army in the London area, but the average recent price is fractionally over 4d. The canteen organisation does not tender. As the Department does not deal with retail shops, I regret I cannot answer the last part of the second question.

Lad Writers, Royal Arsenal

asked the Secretary of State for War if he can now make any statement concerning an improvement of the conditions of lad writers at the Royal Arsenal who reach the age of 21 years?

Following the consultation with representatives of the staff which I mentioned in my reply to a question by the right hon. Member on the same subject on 14th May last, an undertaking was given that, in the absence of any material and unforeseen change in the situation, which might make it necessary to reconsider the matter, none of the remaining lad writers at the Royal Arsenal would, if efficient, be discharged on reaching the age of 21 if they wished to remain after that age in temporary adult employment.

Transport

Potatoes (Railway Rates)

asked the Minister of Transport whether his attention has been directed to the railway rates charged on potatoes, which in the case of the consignment of 18 cwts. dispatched by rail from Forfar to Holyhead amounted to 61s. 6d., the value of the potatoes being 126s. 9d.; and whether, in view of the importance of enabling farmers to secure a supply of Scotch-grown seed, he will take steps to secure lower rates?

A communication from the hon. Member on the subject has been passed to me. Jurisdiction over railway rates rests with the Railway Rates Tribunal, and on inquiry from the railway company I am informed that the rate charged in this case is the standard rate applicable to potato traffic passing in small quantities between the points. The Railways Act, 1921, affords means by which traders can apply to the Railway Rates Tribunal to modify standard charges or to fix new exceptional rates, and the matter is not one in which I could properly intervene.

Traffic Police Officers

asked the Home Secretary whether his attention has been drawn to the fact that the Paris police authorities are introducing an electric light to be worn in the cap-peak of traffic police officers; and whether this has been considered for the Metropolitan traffic police?

The Commissioner of Police informs me that the suggestion that a light should be carried on the helmet of traffic police officers has been considered, but it has not been deemed advisable to adopt it. Local authorities have installed spot lights at a number of traffic points, and this is regarded as the most satisfactory way of making the police officer easily visible.

Housing

Rent Restrictions Acts

asked the Minister of Health whether he is prepared to accede to the representation submitted to him asking that the Rent Restrictions Act be revised with a view to allowing the court power to fix a fair and reasonable rent; and, if so, can he indicate when such legislation will be introduced?

I would remind the hon. Member of the fact that the operation of the Rent Restrictions Acts is under the consideration of an inter-Departmental Committee appointed by myself and my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Scotland. The Committee will no doubt consider the point raised in his question.

Newcastle-On-Tyne

asked the Minister of Health what number of additional houses is required in Newcastle-on-Tyne in order that there may be available one house per family in the city; whether he proposes to take steps to ensure the early provision of this accommodation; and what estimated number of workmen can be employed in building the additional houses in question?

I am afraid the information sought in the first part of the question is not available. As regards the second part, the corporation are proposing to provide 5,182 houses in the next five years, and it is estimated that the average number of persons employed in building these houses will be 1,400.

Rivers Pollution Prevention

asked the Minister of Health whether he has received any applications, under Section 14 of the Local Government Act, 1888, from county councils for the setting up of joint committees to enforce the provisions of the Rivers Pollution Prevention Acts as the result of the Minister's circular letter of 21st September, 1928; and whether, in the event of the response to such circular letter having been unsatisfactory, he proposes to take any further action in view of the importance of securing the purification of the rivers of the country?

Two applications have been received. A public inquiry is being held into one of them this month; the other has not been proceeded with by the applicant council. When the catchment boards appointed under the Land Drainage Act, 1930, have had a reasonable time to function, I propose to review the position in the light of the power conferred on me by that Act of taking the initiative in securing the establishment of joint committees for preventing pollution.

Vaccination

asked the Minister of Health the number of children compulsorily vaccinated and the number for whom exemption was claimed during 1930?

Broadcasting

asked the Postmaster-General whether he will consider the desirability of returning to the position that existed prior to March, 1928, with regard to the broadcasting of political and controversial matter?

I do not consider that it would be in the public interest, or in accordance with the wishes of wireless listeners, to reimpose the ban on the broadcasting of political and controversial matter which was removed in March, 1928.

asked the Postmaster-General if he will give particulars of any changes that have taken place in the personnel of the governing body of the British Broadcasting Corporation since March, 1928?

The only change that has taken place is that the Right Hon. J. H. Whitley was appointed chairman in place of Lord Clarendon, as from 2nd June, 1930.

Unemployment

Transfer Of Workers

asked the Minister of Labour how many unemployed coalminers have been transferred from Northumberland during the past 12 months; to what areas they have been transferred; and what class of work has been found for them?

As stated in my reply to the right hon. Member for Tam-worth (Sir A. Steel-Maitland) on 26th February, statistics giving the numbers transferred from particular areas are not available.

Building Industry, Plymouth And Devonport

asked the Minister of Labour how many building-trade operatives there are, stating their various trades, registered at the Employment Exchanges of Plymouth and Devon-port, respectively?

The following table gives the information desired:

INSURED PERSONS classified as belonging to the Building Industry recorded as unemployed at the Employment Exchanges at Devonport and Plymouth at 23rd February, 1931.
Occupation.Devonport.Plymouth.
Carpenters30124
Bricklayers422
Masons821
Slaters1
Plasterers826
Painters48113
Plumbers44
Labourers to above5393
All other occupations56145
Total211549
NOTE.—Juveniles living in Devonport are included in the figures for Plymouth.

Exchange, Hull (Clerks)

asked the Minister of Labour how many clerks, permanent and temporary, are employed in the Employment Exchange, Hull; how many are classified in grade 2 and also in grade 3; and what are the weekly wages received by those employed in grade 2 and grade 3, respectively?

There are 53 permanent officers below the grade of third-class officer and 94 temporary clerks employed at the Hull Employment Exchange. Of the 53 permanent officers, 10 are "P" class clerks, grade III. Of the 94 temporary clerks 76 are men, grade III, one a woman, grade II, and 17 women, grade III. The average salary of the "P" class clerks is £3 1s. 11d. per week, of the male temporary clerks £2 12s. 7d. per week, and of the grade III women clerks £1 14s. 7d. per week. The salary of the grade II woman clerk is £2 6s. 1d. per week.

Burma Corporation (Mine Labour Conditions)

asked the Secretary of State for India whether he will consider issuing separately as a White Paper that part of the annual report of the chief inspector of the Indian Ministry of Mines dealing with labour conditions in the Burma Corporation's mines; and will he state the name of the chairman of that corporation?

The annual report of the chief inspector of mines in India for 1929, to which I presume my hon. Friend is referring, has already been published and a copy is available in the Library of the House. As regards the last part of the question, I have no source of information that is not accesible to the public.

Education

Maintenance Allowances

asked the President of the Board of Education what local education authorities grant maintenance allowances, supplementary to free places in secondary schools, at a flat rate only without taking into account differences in the family income?

All maintenance allowances provided by local education authorities under Section 71 (c) of the Education Act, 1921, are awarded only to pupils who are ascertained to be in need of assistance. According to the information at the Board's disposal, the following authorities, after satisfying themselves that this condition is fulfilled, grant maintenance allowances supplementary to free places in secondary schools at one flat rate only and not at rates varying in accordance with differences in the family income:

Cambridgeshire.*Middlesex.
Barrow-in-Furness.Reading.
Derby.Rochdale.
Dewsbury.Tynemouth.
Grimsby.Walsall.
Huddersfield.Warrington.
Kingston-upon-Hull.West Bromwich.
Oldham.West Hartlepool.
Portsmouth.Wigan.
* Applies only to pupils taking advanced courses, that is, normally between the ages of 16 and 18.

Building Grants

asked the President of the Board of Education how many local authorities have taken advantage of the increased building grants and to what extent; and whether, in view of the defeat of the Education (School Attendance) Bill, he will consider returning to the former scale of grant?

Since September, 1929, some 250 local authorities have received approval to proposals for capital expenditure which are eligible for grant at the special rate which was introduced as from that date. The estimated expenditure on these proposals is £10,971,000 to be met out of loans and £607,000 to be met out of revenue. The continuance of the increased grant will be a matter for consideration.

Naval Imperial Defence

asked the First Lord of the Admiralty which of the six Dominions maintain their own navies and the size of such navies; and if he will state the amounts paid annually by the different Dominions to the British Government in respect of Imperial defence?

I would refer the hon. Member to pages 292–297 of the February issue of the Navy List for the particulars requested in the first part of the question. As regards the second part, none of the Dominions makes any contribution in cash to the United Kingdom towards the cost of naval Imperial defence, except New Zealand, which is making a contribution towards the cost of the Singapore naval base, the total amount for the current financial year being £125,000.

Royal Navy (Sentence, Ex-Leading Cook)

asked the First Lord of the Admiralty whether he will review the ease of an ex-leading cook in the Royal Navy who was convicted of stealing a pound of butter and was deprived of his good-conduct medal and two badges; and whether, seeing that the punishment involves a loss to the man in his invaliding pension of £6 a year for the rest of his life, he can see his way to mitigate this sentence?

I regret that the Board of Admiralty are not prepared to reduce the sentence in this case.

Indian Import Duties (Cotton Goods)

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether any representations have been made by His Majesty's Government on the subject of the proposed increased cotton duties; and, if so, will he circulate the text of the correspondence?

As regards the first part of the question, I would refer to the reply which was given yesterday by my hon. Friend the Parliamentary Secretary to the questions asked by the hon. and learned Member for Moss Side (Sir G. Hurst) and the hon. and gallant Member for Clitheroe (Sir W. Brass). As regards the second part, my hon. Friend indicated yesterday the substance of the representations which I made on this subject, and I do not think that any useful purpose would be served by giving further details.

asked the President of the Board of Trade at what date His Majesty's Government were made privy to the proposals of the Government of India to increase the Customs duties on imported cotton goods?

asked the Secretary of State for India whether, in view of the intention of the Government of India to increase the Customs duties on cotton goods by 5 per cent., the existing preferences on certain types of cotton goods to this country will be increased pari passu?

No, Sir. The existing preference on British goods of the types referred to is unaffected by the proposal.

Bedford Prison (Executions)

asked the Home Secretary if he is aware that Bedford prison is used as a special prison for young offenders under 21 years of age serving sentences of more than three months; and whether, in view of the undesirability of carrying out executions in a prison where boys are kept, he will take steps to prevent further executions being carried out at Bedford prison?

I should be glad if arrangements could be made to avoid executions in this prison, but at present I cannot see any lawful and practicable means of doing so.

Poor Prisoners' Defence

asked the Home Secretary whether he has now considered the matter of poor prisoners' defence raised in an answer given on 12th November, 1929; and what conclusions he has come to with regard to amending the law to ameliorate the position of poor persons desirous of appealing?

I regret that in view of the pressure of other business I have had no sufficient opportunity for examining this difficult matter.

Vivisection (Dogs)

asked the Home Secretary whether he has any record of the number of dogs used for the purpose of vivisection; and, if so, how many ware so used in the last known year?

The answer to the first part of the question is in the negative: the second part therefore does not arise.

asked the Home Secretary the number of dogs used for purposes of vivisection under the licences held by any of the officers of the Royal Veterinary College for the last known year?

Government Departments

Pensions

asked the Financial Secretary to the Treasury whether a civil servant leaving the Civil Service at the request of the Government before reaching the age limit is treated as forfeiting all, or any part of, pension and other cognate rights?

In the circumstances apparently contemplated in the question, the "other" service would probably be regarded as "approved employment" under the Superannuation Act, 1914. The approved employment would not reckon for pension, but if it came to an end owing to ill-health or the attainment of the age of 60, an award could be made in respect of the previous Civil Service of a pension and allowance not exceeding the pension and allowance which could have been granted had the civil servant retired on the ground of ill-health at the date of taking up the approved employment. No grant, however, could be made if the approved employment came to an end otherwise than on account of ill-health or age, nor would the legal personal representatives be eligible for gratuity if death occurred during the period of approved employment.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will take steps to provide that no person shall be able still to draw a pension from the Exchequer or the rates after taking another position under the State or local authority, and that upon relinquishing such position no person shall be entitled to receive two pensions in respect of the two appointments?

The answer is in the negative. Section 20 of the Superannuation Act, 1834, provides that if a Civil Service pensioner is appointed to fill any office in a public Department, his pension shall be suspended or abated, so that he shall receive only so much pension (if any) as is required to make his new salary up to his old salary. There are similar provisions in the Police Pensions Act, 1921, and the Teachers' Superannuation Act, 1925, with regard to the re-employment of police and teacher pensioners. It would not, in my judgment, be possible to extend this arrangement so as to provide for the suspension of a pension earned in one capacity on fresh employment in a quite different capacity. If the second period of service is such as to qualify the officer for pension in respect of it, I can see no reason why he should be debarred from receiving such pension.

Temporary Typists

asked the Financial Secretary to the Treasury how many temporary typists and shorthand typists there now are in the Civil Service; and how many of these have been engaged since July, 1927?

The answer to the first part of the question is 3,539, and to the second 1,510.

Royal Mail Steam Packet Company

asked the Financial Secretary to the Treasury whether he will consider the advisability of securing the revocation of the Royal Charter of the Royal Mail Steam Packet Company in view of the recent disclosures?

As has already been stated in this House in answer to cognate questions, the affairs of this company are being investigated by the voting trustees; and I cannot usefully make any statement at the present stage on the particular point which the hon. Member raises.

Rating Relief

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how the general Exchequer contribution under the Local Government Act, 1929, is apportioned between loss of rates, discontinued grants, additional contribution, additional grants to ensure minimum gains to counties and county boroughs, and supplementary grants to guarantee individual districts against loss?

I think the hon. Member will find all the information he desires on page 3 of Class X of the Civil Estimates for the current year (H/C No. 83X).

Sugar-Beet Industry

asked the Minister of Agriculture if he will appoint a committee of inquiry into the conditions of the sugar-beet industry, and the operation of the subsidy in its effect on prices paid by the factories to the grower?

I see no necessity at the present time for the appointment of the committee of inquiry suggested. I may add that a comprehensive report on the sugar-beet industry will shortly be issued by the Ministry as one of its Economic Series of publications.

Tuberculosis, Cattle

asked the Minister of Agriculture whether his attention has been drawn to the experiments which have been conducted in England with the Spahlinger and Calmette vaccines; and whether he is framing any plans on these or other lines for the eradication of tuberculosis from Scottish herds?

My attention was drawn to this matter by Captain Richard Buxton, who presented me with a summary of the report of experiments carried out by M. Spahlinger on a farm in Norfolk. I have suggested to him that in the interest of all concerned there should be a complete test by and under the independent control of recognised authorities who are experienced in research in this disease. Research work is being actively carried on at the Research Institute of Animal Pathology, Cambridge, and at the Ministry's Veterinary Laboratory, Weybridge, with a view to devising an effective and cheap method of immunising cattle against tuberculosis. The Calmette and other methods are being studied. Future plans depend to a large extent upon the result of research work now in progress.

Coal Industry

Coke-Oven Development

asked the Secretary for Mince what has been the development of coke-oven plants in England and Wales; if he is aware of any instances where gas is being pumped under pressure from such plants to large cities; and whether the sale of coke and by-products under the existing conditions of industrial depression shows a profit in working the plants?

Statements made in the report of the Departmental Committee on Area Gas Supply issued in March, 1930, indicate that coke-oven development has tended towards an increase of over capacity and the erection of central coking plants serving several collieries. A further development is the substitution of beehive ovens by by-product recovery ovens. Thus in 1913 of the total coal carbonised at coke-ovens in England and Wales, 53.7 per cent. was carbonised at by-product ovens, whereas in 1929, the latest year for which information is at present available, the proportion was 95.6 per cent. In 1929, 10,125 million cubic feet of coke-oven gas were purchased by 29 gas undertakings. A list of these undertakings is given on page 41 of Part I of the Board of Trade Return relating to all authorised gas undertakings in Great Britain for the year 1929. I have no information regarding the last part of the question.

Reorganisation Commission (Chairman)

asked the Secretary for Mines how much of the remuneration of Sir Ernest Gowers at £7,000 a year represents the value of his post as chairman of the Coal Mines Reorgaisation Commission, and how much is compensation for his pension rights

The points raised by the hon. Member are covered by the statement which, as I indicated in the reply I gave on Tuesday to the questions asked by the hon. and gallant Members for Gainsborough (Captain Crookshank) and Epsom (Commander Southby), I propose to make on the Report stage of the Supplementary Estimate, Class VI, Vote 6.