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Written Answers

Volume 275: debated on Monday 13 March 1933

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Written Answers

Roads And Scavenging (Expenditure, Local Authorities)

asked the Minister of Health whether the expenditure incurred by local authorities on highways and bridges in respect of administrative and other general expenses, and cleansing of streets and gullies, watering, snow clearing, etc., is admitted by his Department for the block grant under the Local Government Act, 1929; and, if so, what is the percentage of the grant under these two headings, respectively?

Yes, Sir; but in arriving at the amount of the grant the expenditure on individual services is not ascertained, and no portion of the grant can be allocated to the headings given.

Coast Erosion, Bembridge

asked the Minister of Agriculture whether he has considered a communication sent to him respecting coast erosion at Whitecliff Bay, at Bembridge, in the Isle of Wight; whether his Department is in a position to give advice on specific questions referred to them respecting coast erosion; and whether, in view of the urgency of the matter and the important interests affected, he is willing to send an expert to examine the position?

I have considered the communication referred to. It is not the responsibility of my Department to offer advice in such cases, and in the circumstances of the present case I suggest that the proper course for the person whose interests are principally affected to adopt would be to consult an engineer in private practice.

Housing

Reconditioning, Urban Areas

asked the Minister of Health if he will make inquiries as to whether the urban district councils are prepared to take over the operation of the Acts providing for the reconditioning of rural houses; and whether he will by legislation take power to call for annual returns of all work of this nature undertaken or contemplated?

The Housing (Rural Workers) Acts, 1926 and 1931, apply only to cottages occupied by agricultural workers or persons of substantially the same economic condition. They are already in operation in urban as well as in rural districts, and where the circumstances warrant this, urban district councils are or can be made local authorities for the purposes of these Acts. Quarterly returns of progress made under the Acts are already furnished to my Department, and no further statutory powers than those at present existing are necessary for the purpose of calling for such returns.

Statistics (Scotland)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many houses, other than houses built under slum-clearance schemes, were erected in Scotland during the 12 months ended 28th February, 1933; how many of these were let at rents of less than £30 per annum, excluding occupier's rates; how many at less than £25 per annum; how many at less than £17; and how many of the houses in each of these categories were built with the help of subsidies provided under the Housing Act, 1923; how many under the Act of 1924; how many under other Acts; how many without the aid of any subsidies; and how many by private enterprise, with the assistance of the £9 subsidy, under the Housing Act, 1924?

The number of assisted houses other than houses built under slum clearance schemes erected in Scotland during the 12 months ended 31st January, 1933 (the latest period for which statistics are available) was 10,651, of which 6,553 were erected by local authorities and 4,098 by private enterprise, 3,262 of the latter being under the Act of 1923 and the remaining 836 being under the Act of 1924. The number of unassisted houses erected during the 12 months ended 31st December last (the latest period for which statistics are available) was 1,726, all of which were erected by private enterprise. Particulars of rents are available only for houses erected by local authorities. As regards the above 6,553 houses all of which were erected by local authorities under the Act of 1924, complete particulars of the rents are not yet available but it is known that the rents of 5,515 of these houses fall within the rental catgories (exclusive of occupiers' rates) mentioned in the question, namely:—Annual rent under £30 but not less than £25–1,454 houses.Annual rent under £25 but not less than £17–3,083 houses.Annual rent under £17–978 houses.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland the number of slum-

Slum Clearance Houses in course of construction and approved.
Date.Under Housing, etc. Act, 1923.Under Housing (Scotland) Act, 1930.Total.
Under construction.Approved during period.*Under construction.Approved during period.*Under construction.Approved during period.*
1.2.3.4.5.6.7.
1st January, 19251,8341,4361,8341,436
1st January, 19262,8912,4232,8912,423
1st January, 19272,5122,1692,5122,169
1st January, 19282,9852,8702,9862,870
1st January, 19292,6831,6442,6831,644
1st January, 19301,7821,7321,7821,732
1st January, 19311,8601,6632505122,1102,175
1st January, 19321,0874093,3225,4764,4095,885
1st February, 19321,0631543,5001544,563308
1st March, 19321,0123,7154234,727423
1st April, 19321,014694,0666015,080670
1st May, 193295764,5588515,515857
1st June, 19328824,9857115,867711
1st July, 19328122284,9949805,8061,208
1st August, 19327845,7404056,524405
1st September, 1932732106,2504936,982503
1st October, 19327016,4768177,177817
1st November, 1932709247,0989377,807961
1st December, 1932750666,9837367,733802
1st January, 19336547,0985267,752526
1st February, 19336656067,5316908,1961,296
* The period covered by the figures in columns 3, 5 and 7 is the twelve months preceding the 1st January in the years, 1925 to 1932 inclusive, and the month preceding the dates shown subsequent to the 1st January, 1932.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland the number of houses under construction in Scotland on 1st October, 1930, 1931 and 1932, and the number on the 1st day of each month since October, 1932; and the number of houses approved but not begun on the same dates, distinguishing in the case of houses approved since 15th December between those which are to receive a £3

clearance houses under construction and approved on the 1st day of January in each year from 1925 to 1932 and on the 1st day of each month since January, 1932?

The numbers of slum clearance houses in course of construction and approved under the Housing Acts of 1923 and 1930 respectively at the dates in question were as follow:subsidy and those which are to receive higher subsidies?

All the houses approved for erection in Scotland since 15th December, 1932, being covered by proposals submitted prior to that date, will qualify for the higher subsidies at present available. The numbers of assisted houses under construction and the numbers approved but not begun at the dates mentioned are as follow:

Number of Assisted Houses.

Date.Under construction.Approved but not begun.
1st October, 19309,3103,925
1st October, 193113,3155,506
1st October, 193218,1807,007
1st November, 193218,5147,869
1st December, 193219,05511,075
1st January, 193319,73211,045
1st February, 193321,32510,787

Note.—No information is available as to the number of houses under construction or proposed to be built without State assistance at the dates mentioned.

County.Position at 1st March, 1932.Position at 1st March, 1933.
AngusOriginal scheme in operationOriginal scheme in, operation but subsidy reduced.
ArgyllOriginal scheme in operation but subject to maximum annual commitment.Same as at 1st March, 1932.
BerwickOriginal scheme suspendedSame as at 1st March, 1932.
CaithnessOriginal scheme suspended save for urgent cases.Same as at 1st March, 1932.
InvernessOriginal scheme in operationScheme suspended.
MorayOriginal scheme in operationOriginal scheme in operation but subsidy reduced.
OrkneyOriginal scheme in operation bat subsidy reduced.Same as at 1st March, 1932.
Boss and Cromarty.Original scheme suspendedOriginal scheme in operation but subject to maximum annual commitment.
RoxburghOriginal scheme in operation but subsidy reduced.Original scheme in operation but subsidy further reduced.
SutherlandOriginal scheme in operation but subject to maximum annual commitment.Same as at 1st March, 1932.
ZetlandOriginal scheme suspendedSame as at 1st March, 1932.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many houses were constructed in Scotland under the Rural Housing Act, 1931; the total amount of subsidies paid or to be paid in respect of these houses; and the highest and the lowest subsidy paid or to be paid in respect of any house constructed under this Act?

No houses have yet been completed and therefore no State subsidy has yet been paid under the Housing (Rural Authorities) Act, 1931. The Department of Health for Scotland, up to date, have promised subsidies amounting, with those payable under the

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland the number of county councils in Scotland who were operating the Housing (Rural Workers) Act on 1st March, 1932, and 1st March, 1933, distinguishing in each case between those operating it in whole and those which have revised their schemes since they were first framed, with a view to limiting their financial liabilities?

So far as I am aware, all the county councils in Scotland, with the exception of those shown below, were, at the dates mentioned, operating their schemes under the Housing (Rural Workers) Acts, 1926 and 1931, as originally framed. The exceptions referred to are:Act of 1924, to £6,954 per annum for 40 years and have approved tenders for the erection of 360 houses under the Act. As regards the last part of the question, the highest annual State subsidy promised is £24 10s. per house and the lowest at £14 15s. In both cases these amounts include the subsidy of £12 10s. under the Act of 1924.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland in respect of how many houses in Scotland certificates have been granted approving assistance by way of loan and how many approving assistance by way of grant under the Housing (Rural Workers) Act, 1926, in each of the last eight months?2

The returns furnished by local authorities under the Housing (Rural Workers) Act are quarterly, and I regret that I am therefore not in a position to give the information desired for each of the last eight months. Following, however, are the numbers of houses in respect of which loans and grants were approved during each of the three latest quarters for which information is available.

Quarter.Loans.Grants.
Approved in quarter ended the 30th June, 1932.No houses771 houses.
Approved in quarter ended the 30th September, 1932.13 houses735 houses.
Approved in quarter ended the 31st December, 1932.11 houses667 houses.

Dairy Produce (Import Restrictions)

asked the Minister of Agriculture if he can make any statement relating to imports of dairy produce from Australia and New Zealand?

The position with regard to this matter remains as indicated in the reply I gave on 6th March to a question by my right hon. Friend.

Tyne Fishery (Conference)

asked the Minister of Agriculture whether he is prepared to take action at an early date upon the report of the joint committee of local authorities and Tyne Fishery Board?

I have consulted my right hon. Friend the Minister of Health and, if a representative conference of local authorities is arranged as suggested in the report, we are prepared to instruct officials of our respective Departments to attend as therein recommended.

Crown Tenants (Rents)

asked the Minister of Agriculture whether any applications for a reduction of rents have been made by any Crown tenants of urban property; and, if so, what decision has been reached?

As regards ground rents in Regent Street, I would refer my hon. Friend to the answer which I gave on 16th February last to a question by the hon. Member for Walthamstow West (Mr. McEntee). In the last year applications for reduction of rent have been received from 10 lessees of premises in other parts of London held on leases for seven years or more, and in six of these cases temporary abatements have been allowed with Treasury authority. In 11 cases short tenancies of business premises have been renewed at reduced rents. Reductions have been made in the rents of working-class houses and tenements let on weekly tenancies on the Cumberland Market Estate, but I regret that I cannot give the exact number of cases.

Unemployment

Redhill And Dorking

asked the Minister of Labour the principal trade categories of persons registered as unemployed at the Employment Exchanges at Redhill and Dorking, respectively?

The following table gives an industrial analysis of the numbers of insured persons recorded as unemployed at the Redhill and Dorking Employment Exchanges at 20th February, 1933.

Industry.MalesFemales.Total.
Redhill.
Building216216
Public Works Contracting.7070
Distributive Trades481361
Railway Service3333
General Engineering2424
Other Industries and Services.17813191
Dorking.
Building1441145
Distributive Trades241539
Hotel and Boarding House, etc. Service.81220
Public Works Contracting.1717
Other Industries and Services.641175

Government Policy (Wage Subsidy)

asked the Minister of Labour if he has considered the particulars of the scheme submitted to him which has been initiated by Sir Harold Bowden with a view to providing work on a national basis in relief of unemployment; and whether, in view of the urgency of the matter, he will say what action he proposes to take?

This scheme is one of a number which have been suggested with the object of using unemployment pay as a subsidy to wages. The danger of such an arrangement is that by placing a premium on the employment of persons carrying the subsidy and thereby discouraging engagements at ordinary wages, it may tend to increase rather than reduce the burden of unemployment. For this reason schemes of this kind have been rejected in the past, but, in view of the general interest which is being taken in the matter, I am having the whole matter again examined, in order

The earliest complete year for which comparable statistics of employment and unemployment in particular industries are available is 1924. The following table, therefore, gives figures for 1924. 1931 and 1932.
Area.Year.Estimated number insured at end of June.Average number of insured persons recorded as unemployed.Difference between Col. (2) and Col. (3).
(1)(2)(3)(4)
Coal Mining.
Carmarthenshire192417,30040016,900
193115,1001,90013,200
193215,0002,50012,500
Glamorgan1924190,20014,400175,800
1931145,70051,40094,300
1932144,10061,90082,200
Monmouth and Brecknock*192453,2006,90046,300
193144,80011,70033,100
193243,80017,00026,800
Steel melting and Iron puddling. Iron and Steel rolling and forging.
South Wales†192428,5003,00025,500
193124,60014,10010,500
193224,30013,40010,900
Tinplate Manufacture.
South Wales†192425,70080024,900
193128,10011,20016,900
193228,00010,40017,600
* Separate statistics are not available for Brecknock.
† Including the counties of Brecknock, Carmarthen, Glamorgan, Monmouth and Pembroke.

to see whether any scheme free from this danger can be devised. I should add that no action could be taken without legislation.

Employment (South Wales)

asked the Minister of Labour (1) the number of employed persons in the mining industry in 1921, 1931 and 1932 in Carmarthenshire, Glamorgan, Monmouthshire and Breconshire, respectively;(2) the number of employed persons in the iron and steel industry in South Wales for the years 1921, 1931 and 1932, respectively;(3) the number of employed persons in the tinplate industry in South Wales for the years 1921, 1931 and 1932 respectively?

pursuant to his reply [OFFICIAL REPORT, 9th March, 1933; col. 1928, Vol. 275], supplied the following statement:

India

Artillery, Indianised Division

asked the Secretary of State for India whether the Government of India propose to recruit non-martial classes to the Indian artillery forming part of the Indianised division of the Army in India; and, if so, from what Provinces it is proposed to draw recruits?

I have not yet seen the Government of India's plans. If the hon. Member wishes, I will bring his question and my reply to their notice.

Indian Army Reserve

asked the Secretary of State for India whether the Government of India intend to ensure that the composition of the reserve contemplated by the Indian Army Marine Act Amendment Act shall be mainly Indian?

I have seen it stated in the Press that an assurance was given in the Indian Legislature that the reserve would be predominantly Indian.

Government Departments(Ex-Service Men)

asked the Financial Secretary to the Treasury what is the number of ex-service P-class, PU-class and S-class clerks whose promotion to the general and Departmental clerical classes has been authorised during the period from 17th February, 1932, to 28th February, 1933?

In the interests of economy, statistics of this character are now compiled in respect of the period of 12 months ending on 31st March of each year. As soon as figures are available I will forward the hon. Member information as to the number of "P," "PU" and "S" clerks, whose promotion to the general and Departmental clerical classes was authorised during the 12 months ending on 31st March, 1933.

asked the Financial Secretary to the Treasury if, by reason of their comparatively advanced age on entry to Civil Service employment, he will consider making provision for all ex-service men who have entered the Civil Service post-War being retained until reaching the age of 65, subject to good health and efficiency?

The head of any Department may call upon any officer of his Department to retire at any time after reaching the age of 60, and it would not be possible to make provision of the kind suggested by the hon. Member.

asked the Financial Secretary to the Treasury whether he will consider allowing the previous temporary service of ex-service men at present serving in the Civil Service to count for pension rights in such a way that on completion of not less than 10 years' total service all such men, not at present eligible, shall be admitted to pensionable status?

A very large number of ex-service men who were originally temporarily engaged have been or are being placed on the pensionable establishment under arrangements recently made after discussion with the staff associations concerned. I should not be justified in reopening those arrangements in the manner suggested.

Underground Telephone Cables

asked the Postmaster-General the amount that has been spent in laying underground telephone cables during 1932; and the estimated sum that is to be spent during 1933?

It is estimated that by the end of the present financial year £2,457,000 will have been spent, and that £2,515,000 will be spent during the financial year 1933–34.

French Citizens (Registration, Great Britain)

asked the Home Secretary the number of persons of French nationality domiciled, respectively, in Great Britain and in the county of London?

The latest figures of French citizens registered with the police are 15,403 in Great Britain and 9,165 in the City and Metropolitan Police Districts.