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Volume 310: debated on Thursday 2 April 1936

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Written Answers

Northcotts School, Walthamstow

asked the Home Secretary how many boys there are at present in the Northcotts (North London) school, Walthamstow, and the number for which it is certified; what is the area covered by the buildings and playground, respectively; is he satisfied that this space offers adequate facilities for recreation, games, and physical exercise; whether he is aware that the dining hall is heated only by an oil stove; and what plans are being made for replacing the existing buildings and playgrounds by more adequate premises for the education of children committed to the school for several years' training?

This school is certified for 85 boys but at the present time of pressure the Managers of Approved Schools are authorised to receive one or two more boys if they are satisfied that they can accommodate them, and the number of boys in this school on Monday last was 89. The area covered by the buildings is 2,780 square yards and by the grounds 5,286 square yards. The school is an old one and has fewer facilities for games than the modern school. It has an asphalted playground of 519 square yards, 1,765 square yards of garden used for games, 900 square yards used for garden plots, and facilities for obtaining pitches in playing fields in the district. In addition to this the Managers are converting a further 2,000 square yards of the garden for use for games. The dining hall is heated by two coal fires and hot water pipes. It is anticipated that the school will be closed during the course of next year when it will be replaced by a modern school which the Middlesex County Council are in process of providing.

Transport

Royal Automobile Club Rally

asked the Minister of Transport whether, in the interest of public safety, he will take steps to prevent a repetition of the 1,000 miles rally last week held under the auspices of the Royal Automobile Club?

I have no power to prohibit the holding of reliability trials, but my hon. and gallant Friend will remember that participants are liable to proceedings if they contravene the law.

Roads Lay-Out (Ministry's Circular)

asked the Minister of Transport whether he can make available to Members the circular to highway authorities laying down the new principles for the lay-out of roads, and the standard widths in future to be adopted?

I have made arrangements for copies to be available at the Vote Office.

National Finance

Income Tax (Dependants Allowance)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he has now taken into fuller consideration the case of the men who are forced by the public assistance commissioners to keep adult able-bodied relations, but whom his Department will not allow to make a counter-claim for this on the deductions from their wages for Income Tax?

I am unable to add anything to the terms of the answer which I gave to the hon. Member on the 19th December last in reply to a question on the same subject.

Motor Vehicle And Petrol Duties

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he has considered a letter sent from the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders with reference to the Budget; and whether, in planning his proposals, he will bear in mind the number of ancillary trades which would benefit from any reduction in the horse-power tax and the petrol and oil duties?

The answer to the first part of the question is in the affirmative and to the second that all relevant matters will be taken into consideration.

France (British War Payments)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what was the total sum of money paid by the British Government to French authorities in the form of dock dues, berthing, etc., of ships conveying British troops, equipment, nurses, ambulances, and all impedimenta of war during the Great War, 1914–19?

According to an estimate made in 1922 the total amount paid by His Majesty's Government to France on harbour dues and services for the British Navy and disbursements on behalf of the Ministry of Shipping amounted to approximately £2 millions for the period from the outbreak of war up to the 31st March, 1919.

Northern Ireland Frontier (Smuggling)

asked the Financial Secretary to the Treasury whether the British Treasury is agreeing to defray the extra cost incurred in policing the Free State frontier to stop the smuggling of imported cattle intended ultimately for this country; and why this extra charge should be imposed on the British taxpayer?

The answer to the first part of the question is in the affirmative. With regard to the second part, the Customs service is a reserved service under the Government of Ireland Act and the responsibility for the prevention of smuggling therefore rests upon the Imperial Government, which defrays the cost and collects the duties.

Importation Of Plumage Act

asked the Financial Secretary to the Treasury whether he will state the number, and give particulars, of the prosecutions which have taken place under the Importation of Plumage (Prohibition) Act since it was passed in 1921; and whether any other cases of suspected smuggling have arisen where prosecutions were not instituted owing to difficulty in obtaining reliable evidence?

List of cases in which legal proceedings were instituted against importers of plumage, the importation of which is prohibited under the Importation of Plumage (Prohibition) Act, 1921.
Date of prosecution.Quantity and description of plumage.Penalty imposed.
20th February, 1923119 Kingfisher skins£20 fine plus £31 10s. costs. Fine and costs paid.
13th March, 1923Five boxes Birds of Paradise skins concealed.Case dismissed. Evidence insufficient against consignees in this country.
20th March, 1923One fan Lady Amherst PheasantNo conviction recorded. Defendants ordered to pay £21 costs. Costs paid.
10th April, 192330 millinery mounts, Peacock, Beeves Pheasant, Falcated Teal.£ 10 fine and £21 costs. Fine and costs paid.
1st May, 1923One mechanical peacock (made of Peacock feathers).£5 plus £7 7s. costs in respect of each of the four importations.
12 bandeaux (Heron feathers).£49 8s. in all. The fines and costs were paid.
Two mechanical peacocks (made of Peacock feathers).
One hat trimmed with Golden Pheasant and Kingfisher plumage.
3rd October, 192312 bundles of four different unknown kinds of Egret feathers.Fined £20 and £2 2s. costs. Fine and costs paid.
18th December, 1923An assortment of hat mounts, bandeaux and loose feathers for the most part prohibited (including Bird of Paradise, Heron, etc.).Fined £1 1s. and £4 4s. costs. Fine and costs paid.
18th December, 1923An assortment of feather hat mounts including plumage of the Chinese Greenfinch, Chinese Tit, etc.Fined £1 1s. and £4 4s. costs. Fine and costs paid.
25th February, 1925325 bundles of Egret plumageFined £50; fine paid.
8th October, 1925One Egret wing; 10 bundles Marabou Stork plumage. One bundle Egret plumage.Fined £5; fine paid.
25th May, 192750 Egret feathers.Fined £5 and £2 2s. costs. Fine and costs paid.
24th April, 1930 to 1st May. 1930.239 bundles of Egret feathers£375 plus £25 costs. Fine and costs paid.
30th October, 193066 bundles of Aigrettes£100 including costs or three months imprisonment. Fine paid.
16th January, 1931Bird of Paradise and Egret plumage£100 or six weeks imprisonment. Fine paid.

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he will furnish a list of persons or firms who have been permitted to import plumage prohibited entry to this country under the provisions of the Importation of Plumage (Prohibition) Act, 1921; for what purposes the permits were granted; and whether any and, if so, which permits still remain in force?

Fourteen prosecutions have taken place under the Importation of Plumage (Prohibition) Act, since it was passed in 1921. No separate record is kept of the cases referred to in the second part of the question.

I fear that the compilation of the particulars asked for by the hon. Member would involve a disproportionate expenditure of time and labour. As to the purpose for which the permits have been granted, I would refer to Section 2 (4) of the Act. Certain permits, for instance to museums and to ornithologists, remain in force.

Contributory Pensions

asked the Financial Secretary to the Treasury what would be the cost of awarding pensions of 10s. per week to all spinsters of 60 years of age who are regular contributors to the health insurance scheme?

The cost of granting contributory old age pensions at age 60, instead of at the present age of 65, to insured spinsters would be approximately £2,000,000 a year at the present time. The cost would increase steadily in future.

Agriculture

Potatoes

asked the Financial Secretary to the Treasury whether he is aware that the recent order abolishing the full protective duties on potatoes, other than new, has caused grave concern to the industry, including the Potato Marketing Board, at the moment when the board's efforts were beginning to establish confidence in the industry's future; that practically no opportunity of stating their case against the said abolition was given either to the board or to the producers in general; and will he take steps forthwith to annul the said order or suspend its operation until such time as the case can receive a proper examination?

The decision to remove the duty temporarily was reached after full examination of the situation, in the course of which I understand the views of the Marketing Board and the Farmers' Unions were carefully considered. The answer to the third part of the question is in the negative. I may, however, remind my hon. and gallant Friend that the Import Duties Advisory Committee in their report say that they fully anticipate that in a few months' time the exceptional conditions which led them to recommend the removal of the duty will have ceased to be operative; that they will keep the matter under review; and that if and when their anticipations are realised they will recommend that the duty be re-imposed.

Milk Marketing Board

asked the Minister of Agriculture how many farmers were fined by the Milk Marketing Board last year for the following offences: for selling milk wholesale without a contract, for selling milk by retail with holding a producer-retailer's licence, for rendering false returns, and for failing to furnish information and returns, respectively?

I am informed by the Milk Marketing Board that during 1935 penalties were imposed in pursuance of the Scheme on 60 producers for selling milk by wholesale otherwise than under a contract prescribed by and registered with the board; on 54 producers for selling milk by retail without a producer-retailer's licence; on three producers for rendering false returns, and on 184 producers for failing to furnish information and returns.

Eggs

asked the Minister of Agriculture whether he can furnish an estimate of the production of eggs in the United Kingdom in 1931 and 1935, respectively; and what proportion of our total consumption was in each year represented by United Kingdom production?

The estimated production of eggs in the United Kingdom amounted to 4,212 million eggs in 1931 and 4,614 million in 1935, representing 58 per cent. and 66 per cent. respectively of the total consumption of eggs in shell in those years.

Wheat

asked the Minister of Agriculture whether, in the develpoment of a national policy for food farming, and defence, he will extend the wheat quota scheme which applies to only one-fifth of our annual wheat requirements so as to ensure a home-grown supply of at least one-third of our annual needs?

I would refer my hon. Friend to the reply which my right hon. Friend gave to my hon. Friend the Member for East Dorset (Mr. Hall-Caine) on 26th March, of which I. am sending him a copy.

South York; Hire Canal (Pollution)

asked the Minister of Agriculture the cause of the pollution of the South Workshire Canal between Sandal and Keadby; if he is aware that angling associations have been compelled to discontinue fishing matches in consequence; and whether any action has been taken by the appropriate authority?

My right hon. Friend has no information on the subject mentioned by the hon. Member, but he is making inquiries regarding it.

Foods (Newspaper Wrappers)

asked the Minister of Health whether, in view of the uneasiness of certain branches of the medical profession in regard to the practice of retail butchers and fishmongers of purchasing old newspapers for the purpose of wrapping up meat and fish sold in retail shops, he will consider making further investigations in this matter as to the advisability of action being taken to stop this practice?

On general grounds of cleanliness the practice referred to by my hon. Friend is to be deprecated, but I am advised there is no definite evidence that such a practice is a factor in the spreading of disease, and therefore I do not think any further investigation is necessary.

Rates Levies (Home Counties)

asked the Minister of Health what was the amount in the £ of the rate levied by each county council and county borough council in the home counties for the year 1935–36; and what is the corresponding amount proposed to be levied by each of those councils for the year 1936–7?

I will send the hon. Member a statement giving the information desired when I have received the necessary particulars in respect of 1936–37 from the various rating authorities.

Wireless Broadcasts (Seaside Resorts)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether the British official wireless service from Rugby has, within the last six months, called attention, in any form, to the progressive developments at British seaside resorts; and whether he can state the number of occasions on which such references have been made?

The answer to the first part of the question is No, Sir. The second part of the question does not arise.

Siam

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether he has any statement to make with reference to projected negotiations by Japan with Siam for making a canal through the isthmus of Kra; and what the attitude of the British Government is towards such a project?

My right hon. Friend has no information that such negotiations are projected.

Anglo-Egyptian Conversations

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether he can give the House any information about the progress of the Anglo-Egyptian negotiations?

I would refer the hon. Member to the reply given by my right hon. Friend yesterday to a similar question asked by my hon. Friend the Member for Norwood (Mr. Sandys).

Italy (British Subjects' Expulsion)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether his attention has been called to cases of expulsion of British subjects from Italy; and whether he is taking any action in the matter?

My right hon. Friend's attention has been drawn to three recent cases in which British subjects have been expelled from Italy. My hon. Friend will, I am sure, realise that the propriety and utility of representations to foreign Governments in cases of this kind is circumscribed by the general right of Governments to expel from their territory foreign nationals whose presence they have reason to regard as undesirable. But, in every case which has been brought to the notice of my right hon. Friend or of His Majesty's Ambassador in Rome, the matter has been promptly taken up with the Italian authorities in the manner which seemed most appropriate to the circumstances, with the result that, in two out of these three cases, the conditions under which the persons in question were obliged to leave Italy were considerably alleviated.

Naval And Military Pensions And Grants

asked the Minister of Pensions the cost per head of maintaining patients at the hospitals of the Ministry at Cosham, Hants, and Erskine House, Renfrewshire, respectively; and what are the proportions of that cost due to administrative charges, medical attention, and to food?

The cost at the Ministry hospital at Cosham is 8s. per patient per day, but precise analysis of the expenditure cannot be prepared on the lines desired. The Princess Louise Scottish Hospital for Maimed and Limbless Sailors and Soldiers at Erskine House is not maintained by the Ministry and no information is therefore available as to the analysis of cost. The cost to the Ministry of its own patients in this hospital is about 7s. 8d. per head per day.

asked the Minister of Pensions whether he will take steps to provide treatment allowances for ex-service men undergoing hospital treatment where such ex-service men are undergoing treatment for a disability which the Ministry accepts as having been aggravated by service in the War; and how the Ministry is able to decide that aggravating effects in the case of phthisis have ceased to operate?

Treatment allowances are, subject to the usual conditions, granted to pensioners undergoing a course of in-patient treatment approved by my medical officers as being necessary for the present condition of a disability whether due to or still aggravated by war service. The question whether the aggravating effects of war service still persist is a matter determined by my medical advisers on the history and facts of each case.

Unemployment

Tyneside And Liverpool (Shipbuilding)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will favourably consider granting assistance for the building on Tyneside of the sister ship to the "Queen Mary," and so help to relieve the serious unemployment in that scheduled special area?

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether, in considering an application for assistance towards the construction of the sister ship to the "Queen Mary," now as Liverpool is on the scheduled list, he will give consideration to an application from the Merseyside?

No proposal under the North Atlantic Shipping Act for building a sister ship has been received. If eventually it should be decided to build such a ship the choice of builder would appear to be a matter for consideration by the Cunard White Star Company on the relative technical and commercial merits of the case.

Re-Armament Contracts (Men Over Forty)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether in all Government contracts in connection with rearmament proposals, he will require the introduction of a clause binding contractors, when taking on new labour, to engage a fixed minimum percentage of men over 40 years of age who have been out of work for 12 months?

I regret that it would be impossible to impose upon employers a condition such as that suggested. But I have no doubt that the increase in the demand for labour will automatically afford more prospects of employment for the men in question either directly on work in connection with the re-armament proposals or indirectly on other work on which vacancies may arise. It is already the practice for Employment Exchanges to consider how the best use can be made of the older men's experience.

Ferndale, Porth, Tonypandy And Treorchy

asked the Minister of Labour whether he can give the following particulars in respect to insured and uninsured persons registered at the Ferndale, Porth, Tonypandy and Treorchy exchanges: the number of unemployed, giving the figures separately for males and females, insured and uninsured, for the month of February, 1936, and the number in receipt of unemployment benefit and unemployment assistance, respectively; the percentage of insured persons unemployed at each of the exchanges during the month of February, 1936; the number of unemployed persons registered at each of the exchanges and within the age groups 14–15, 15–16, 16–17, 17–18, 18–19, and

Unemployed persons on the registers of the Ferndale, Forth, Tonypandy and Treorchy Employment Exchanges at 24th February, 1936, and the percentages unemployed among insured persons, aged 16–64, at that date.
Ferndale.Porth.Tonypandy.Treorchy.
Males.Females.Males.Females.Males.Females.Males.Females.
(1) Numbers of unemployed on registers:
(a) persons aged 14–64, insured under the Unemployment Insurance Act.4,804583,859674,9881625,17770
(b) uninsured persons:
(i) aged 14 and under 21 years.*208179249145381287175142
(ii) aged 21 years and over.1763867399
(c) Total5,0292434,1462185,3694565,391221
(2) Insured persons aged 16–64 included in item 1 (c) above:
(a) with claims admitted for insurance benefit.1,525281,08036712841,45830
(b) with applications authorised for unemployment allowances.3,110242,646194,070493,65633
(c) whose position under the First Statutory Condition had not been determined.16115924
(3) Percentages unemployed among insured persons aged 16–64†69·333·846·328·847·934·732·431·7
(4) Numbers of unemployed persons included in item 1 (c) above who were aged:
(a) 14 and 15 years‡185172228126360258140110
(b) 16 and 17 years‡16511108241183411131
(c) 18 and under 21 years‡28612186281977125830
* Separate particulars are not available as to the numbers aged 15 and under 21: or as to the numbers, included in the totals shown, who have never followed an insurable occupation.
† The percentages shown are calculated by relating the numbers recorded at the respective Exchanges as unemployed at 24th February, 1936, to the estimated numbers insured at July, 1935, based on the number of unemployment books exchanged at the same Employment Exchanges. In the calculation of the percentages the numbers of unemployment books still remaining lodged at the Exchanges belonging to certain workpeople who had ceased to register as unemployed, but were not known to have obtained employment, have been taken into account.
‡ Separate figures are not available in respect of each individual year of age.

19–20; the number of persons registered at each of the exchanges between the ages of 15 and 21 years who have hitherto followed no insurable occupation; and how many men were employed, separately, on the surface and underground during the month of February, 1936, at each of the collieries within the area of each exchange?

The following table gives the information desired, so far as it is available in my Department:

With regard to the last part of the question my hon. Friend the Secretary for

Wage-earners (below and above ground)* on colliery books for week ended 29th February, 1936 at mines situated in the areas of Ferndale, Porth, Tonypandy and Treorchy Employment Exchanges.
Employment Exchange.Colleries.Number of wage-earners on colliery books.
FerndaleFerndale No. 12(Maintenance).
Ferndale No. 5495
Tylorstown No. 622(Maintenance).
Tylorstown No. 715(Maintenance).
Tylorstown No. 819(Maintenance).
Tylorstown No. 9819
PorthBertie648
Trefor584
Cymmer1,410
Standard18(Maintenance).
National Nos. 1 and 2412
TonypandyGlamorgan No. 1 (Llwynypia)245
Glamorgan No. 2 (Llwynypia)348
Cambrian Nos. 1 and 2400
Cambrian No. 41,075
Blaenclydach627
Pandy595
Anthony57
Gelli, Steam111(Maintenance).
Gelli, Abergorky208
Nebo336
TreorchyFernhill No. 1541
Fernhill No. 2391
Fernhill No. 3130
Fernhill No. 4605
Glenrhondda315
Tydraw155(Maintenance).
Pentre54(Maintenance).
Bute922
Abergorky51(Maintenance).
Ynysfaio7(Maintenance).
Park No. 11,394
Park No. 2
Dare688
Maindy296
Eastern292

* Separate figures for underground workers and surface workers are not available.

Public Assistance

asked the Minister of Health whether his attention has been called to the growing practice of the public assistance authorities deducting the value of school meals from unemployment allowances; and will he have inquiries made with a view to such practice being brought to an end?

I am not aware of any such change of practice as is referred to; and I would point out that, in any case, I have no power to give directions to local authorities of the nature suggested.

Mines has supplied the following figures:

Miners' Claim (Beamish Colliery)

asked the Minister of Labour whether he is now in a position to make a statement on the matter of a re-hearing of the case of the Beamish miners by the Umpire?

Art application for a re-hearing was made to the Umpire, who has decided, I understand, that there are no new facts submitted so far to justify a revision of the decision.

Insured Persons (Statistics)

asked the Minister of Labour whether he will sate the number of persons on the registers of the Employment Exchanges in Great Britain as at the last convenient date, and the number with claims for benefit, admitted or under consideration, giving the figures separately for the Walworth Road (Borough) Exchange?

At 24th February, 1936, there were 2,025,021 unemployed persons aged 14 years and upwards on the registers of Employment Exchanges in Great Britain, of whom 987,045 were insured persons, aged 16–64, with claims for insurance benefit admitted or under consideration. The corresponding figures for the Borough (Walworth Road) Employment Exchange were 12,703 and 8,496 respectively.

Domestic Service

asked the Minister of Labour the number of females employed as indoor domestic servants in Great Britain as at the last convenient date?

At the Census of Population, 1931, the latest date for which figures are available, there were 1,470,903

Countries to which consigned.Exports of the produce and manufactures of the United Kingdom.Population (a).Value of exports per head of the population.
£'000Thousands.£.s.d.
Finland4,1523,567133
Soviet Union3,505173,000005
(a) Estimated population at the middle of 1935

India (Trade Agreement)

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether his attention has been drawn to the decision of the Indian Legislature that the trade agreement between the United Kingdom and India should be denounced; and whether, in these circumstances, he will give consideration to those British manufacturing industries that are exposed to serious competition from Indian manufacturers?

I am aware that the Legislative Assembly has passed a Motion recommending the Governor-General in Council to give notice to terminate the Ottawa Agreement. If the Government of India act in accordance with this

gainfully occupied females aged 14 years and over in Great Britain enumerated as indoor domestic servants. Of these, 107,288 described themselves in the Census returns as out of work.

Trade And Commerce

Finland And Russia

asked the President of the Board of Trade the total value of the purchases of United Kingdom goods in 1935 made by Finland and Soviet Russia; the population of Finland and Soviet Russia; and the value per head of United Kingdom goods purchased in 1935 by Finland and Soviet Russia, respectively?

The following table shows the total declared value of merchandise, the produce and manufactures of the United Kingdom, exported from this country during the year 1935 and registered as consigned to Finland and to the Soviet Union, together with the population of those countries and the value of such exports per head of the population.recommendation, the interests to which my hon. Friend refers will be borne in mind in any consequent negotiations.

Foreign Shipping

asked the President of the Board of Trade what steps he proposes to take to deal with the increase in the proportion of foreign shipping engaged in carrying goods in and out of the United Kingdom?

The tonnage of British vessels entering and clearing with cargoes in the foreign trade of the United Kingdom increased during 1935 as compared with the preceding year, although the proportion of foreign ships was slightly greater in 1935 than in 1934. Measures to assist the British shipping industry, such as the subsidy to tramp shipping and the "scrap and build" scheme, are being continued and advantage has been and will be taken of every opportunity in negotiating trade agreements or in any other direction to improve the position.

Colonies (Preferential Tariffs)

asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies whether he will furnish an estimate for a recent date of the total population of the British Colonial Empire, including Crown Colonies, protectorates, mandated territories, and territories under condominium; and whether he will state what proportion of the total population inhabits countries debarred by treaty engagements from granting any preference to United Kingdom goods?

According to the latest figures available, the total population of the British Colonial Empire is about 58,000,000, while the total number of persons inhabiting Colonial territories which are debarred from granting preference to United Kingdom goods is about 39,000,000, that is about two-thirds of the total.

Defence

Food Supplies

asked the President of the Board of Trade the full cold-storage capacity for meat in Great Britain, expressed in terms of weeks' supply?

The total capacity of the frozen meat stores included in the list of such stores given in Lloyd's Register of Shipping would probably be sufficient for more than half of our annual importation of frozen beef and frozen mutton and lamb, if it were used solely for that purpose.

asked the President of the Board of Trade the storage capacity for bacon in this country; and how much is being stored at the present time?

I understand that bacon cannot be stored indefinitely without deterioration whether in cold store or otherwise and that it is normally put into consumption as soon as possible. I have no information as to the amount of storage which is available for bacon in the hands of importers and wholesalers.

asked the President of the Board of Trade the storage capacity for sugar in Great Britain; and how much is being stored at the present time?

The stock of sugar in bonded warehouses on the 29th February amounted to about 470,000 tons. I understand that a few weeks' supply is also held out of bond. Owing to the fact that sugar can be stored in warehouses suitable for dry goods in general, the total capacity available cannot be estimated.

Granaries (Animal Feeding-Stuffs)

asked tae Minister of Agriculture the storage capacity for animal feeding-stuffs in Great Britain at the present time?

So far as port granaries are concerned, which may be used for the storage of grain for human or animal consumption, or both, I would refer to the answer given by my right hon. Friend the President of the Board of Trade to my hon. Friend the Member for King's Norton (Mr. Cartland) on 26th March. I regret that I have no information concerning the storage capacity for animal feeding-stuffs elsewhere. There is a wide variety of such feeding-stuffs, a substantial proportion of which is home-produced and is stored on the farms.

Anti-Gas Experiments

asked the Secretary of State for War whether experiments in the manufacture of poison gases, to be used against an enemy if war should break out, are being carried out by, or on behalf of, His Majesty's Government, either by the scientific research department or any Government Department, or by private individuals or commercial companies; and whether such gases are being manufactured and stored for future use and, if so, the quantity of such gases?

As the right hon. Gentleman will see from page 169 of Army Estimates, establishments are maintained for research and experiment relating to defence against gas, and in particular to investigate methods for the prevention and alleviation of human and animal suffering which might be caused by gas. They also investigate any questions referred to them by civil departments relating to protection against analogous industrial risks. He will, I hope, agree that it would not be in the public interest to go further into details on this matter of national defence.

Scotland

Milk Production

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland the amount of milk produced in the various counties in the area of the Scottish milk scheme in every month since December, 1933, and grouping the counties in the west and south-west separately from those in the east and centre?

I am sending to the Noble Lady copies of detailed statements supplied by the Scottish Milk Marketing Board giving the information desired.

Public Assistance

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland the maximum amount of able-bodied relief paid to man, wife, and family in Coatbridge, Airdrie, Greenock, Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Kirkintilloch, Dundee, Edinburgh, Falkirk, Aberdeen, Cumnock, and Stirlingshire?

The following information has been obtained from the local authorities:

Glasgow, Edinburgh, and Aberdeen Burghs.—The maximum amounts of able-bodied relief normally afforded to an applicant for himself, wife and dependent children are:

Per week.

s.

d.

Glasgow400
Edinburgh450
Aberdeen380

Non-dependent members of the applicant's family in the household are relieved separately and the amount of relief afforded to such non-dependents is not subject to a maximum.

Greenock Burgh, and Dumbarton County (Kirkintilloch).—The maximum amounts of able-bodied relief afforded to a household, including non-dependent members of the applicant's family, are:

Per week.

s.

d.

Greenock Burgh676
Dumbarton County (Kirkintilloch)373

There are no maxima in operation in the following areas:

Coatbridge, Airdrie, Lanark County, Dundee, Falkirk, Ayr County (Cumnook), and Stirling County.

Authorities do not in practice adhere rigidly to the maxima in their scales where there are exceptional circumstances, e.g., sickness in the family, exceptionally large family or high rent.

Army Ordnance Depot, Stirling

asked the Secretary of State for War the number of civilians that are employed in the ordnance depot at Forthside, Stirling; how many are over 60 years of age how many of the latter are drawing service pensions; and what is the average weekly value of these pensions, giving also the highest and lowest figures paid per week?

The number employed at this Ordnance Depot is approximately 200. The rest of the information sought by the hon. Member is not available in the War Office and could not be obtained without a disproportionate expenditure of time and labour, which I do not feel justified in undertaking.