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Written Answers

Volume 315: debated on Friday 24 July 1936

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Written Answers

Civil Service

Clerical Classes

asked the Home Secretary whether his Department has expressed concurrence in the terms of reference sent from the Civil Service Clerical Association in regard to the pay of departmental clerks?

A letter has been addressed to the Civil Service Clerical Association relative to the terms of reference in this case.

asked the Financial Secretary to the Treasury, whether he is aware that the Civil Service Clerical Association has claimed an improved scale of pay for superintendents of typing staff and that the last joint meeting, between representatives of the association and the establishments division of the Treasury, to discuss the claim, was held on the 5th February last; and when it is intended that a further joint meeting shall be held?

On 8th February a letter was addressed to the Civil Service Clerical Association making certain proposals regarding the pay of superintendents and chief superintendents of typists. For three months no action with the Treasury was taken by the Association. A further meeting to be held about a month ago was then arranged, but had to be deferred in view of the circumstances arising in connection with the discussions regarding certain departmental clerical classes. I am unable to say when it will be found convenient to hold a further meeting with the two Associations concerned.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will represent to the Minister of Labour that it is the desire of the Treasury and the Civil Service Clerical Association alike that the cases involved in the departmental clerk issue shall be heard by the industrial court before the summer recess?

I would refer the hon. Member to the reply which I gave on the 22nd July to the hon. Member for Wednesbury (Mr. Banfield).

Trade Unionism

asked the Financial Secretary to the Treasury, whether a union composed of civil servants, but whose officers are paid officers of an outside union covering non-civil servants, which latter is affiliated to the Trades Union Congress, is permitted to receive a certificate of approval under Section 5 of the Trade Union Act of 1927 and regulations issued thereunder?

If the hon. Member will furnish particulars of the case he has in mind, the matter will be considered.

Recruitment

asked the Financial Secretary to the Treasury, with reference to paragraph 76 of the Civil Service Re-organisation Report of 1920, in what case it has been necessary to apply special methods of recruitment to departmental clerical classes?

The normal source of recruitment for the majority of officers in the Air Ministry and War Department Departmental Clerical Classes is from ex-airmen and ex-soldiers respectively.

Workmen's Compensation Act (Boxers)

asked the Home Secretary whether, as professional boxers are subject to injury and loss of employment as a result of injury sustained during the practice of their profession, their claims are in any way considered in administering the Workmen's Compensation Act; and, if not, will he take steps to rectify this anomaly?

Whether a professional boxer or other professional person such as an actor, football player, teacher, doctor or nurse is a workman within the meaning of the Act will depend on the facts of each case, including the terms of his or her engagement. Except in certain specified cases, the Act applies only if there is a contract of service or apprenticeship, and I do not think it would be possible to apply the Act generally to persons who have entered into other forms of contract, irrespective of the circumstances. Where a professional undertakes activities of a dangerous character, the risk involved and the possibility of taking out an insurance policy can of course be taken into account in fixing the terms of the engagement.

Fuel Research Board

asked the Lord President of the Council, what regulations govern the procedure of the Fuel Research Board with respect to the testing of methods of extracting oil from coal by any process?

Up to the present, the only applications for tests have been for processes involving low temperature carbonisation of coal. A copy of the standard conditions upon which the Department of Scientific and Industrial Research is empowered to test such plants is being sent to the hon. Member.

asked the Lord President of the Council whether the report of the test of any process for the extraction of oil from coal which is made by the Fuel Research Board is available to the public; and whether the patentees or proprietors of the patent rights in the process are always given a written copy of the report giving the results of the test?

Water Supply (Well Pollution)

asked the Minister of Health how many cases of poisoning of inhabitants have been reported to him through pollution of wells during each of the last five years; and whether such well water is tested regularly or only when pollution is reported through illness?

During the last five years I have received reports of poisoning from pollution of wells in four localities, one in each of the five years other than 1934–35. Local Authorities and Public Water Companies are under an obligation to supply pure and wholesome water, and it is their usual practice to make periodic tests of their sources of supply.

Japan (British Subjects' Treatment)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether any reply has been received from the Japanese Government concerning the infliction of water torture upon Mr. Hussein, a British subject, and the ill-treatment of Mrs. Hussein by the Japanese authorities at Hsingking?

Yes, Sir. I am informed that the Japanese authorities are making inquiries and that the result will be communicated to His Majesty's Government as soon as possible.

Employment And Wages

asked the Minister of Labour whether he can state the number of men fully employed in agriculture, in mining, in engineering, and in shipbuilding in the United Kingdom in the years 1913, 1925, and 1935, and the average wages in each of these years; and whether he can give the figures relating to Scotland separately?

, pursuant to his reply [OFFICIAL REPORT, 25th June, 1936; col. 1942, Vol. 313] supplied the following statement:The available information is shown below.

Agriculture

(Information supplied by the Ministry of Agriculture and Fisheries and the Department of Agriculture for Scotland.)

1. Numbers of Regular Male Employés on agricultural holdings above 1 acre.

Date.

Great Britain.

Scotland.

June, 1913609,137101,137
June, 1925662,05982,646
June, 1935597,54279,751

Note.—The figures given for 1913 are not strictly comparable with those for 1925 and 1935, since the returns received for 1913 excluded the occupier and all members of his family, while in those for 1925 and 1935 the occupier and his wife were excluded but other members of his family, working on the holding, were included.

2. Agricultural Wages.

England and Wales.—No precise statistics are available of the actual wages of agricultural workers. Estimates of the wages of ordinary adult male agricultural workers immediately prior to the war indicate that in 1914 the weekly cash wage for such workers averaged about 16s. 9d. and that in addition the workers received allowances in kind valued on the average at about 1s. 3d. a week, making a total average wage of 18s. Since 1924 agricultural wages have been regulated

under the Agricultural Wages (Regulation) Act and the average of the weekly minimum rates for ordinary adult male workers fixed by the Agricultural Wages Committees over England and Wales as a whole was 30s. 11d. in 1925 and 31s. 8d. in 1935. These averages take no account of overtime or special seasonal earnings nor of the higher rates applicable in many cases to workers employed in tending animals.

Scotland.—The average weekly wages of married ploughmen and cattlemen in 1925 and 1935, including the value of payments in kind, are estimated to have been approximately as follow:

Ploughmen.

Cattlemen.

s.d.s.d.
1925384391
1935340355

Comparable figures are not available for 1913.

Note.—The Agricultural Wages (Regulation) Act, 1924, does not apply to Scotland.

Coal Mining Industry

(Information supplied by the Mines Department.)

1. Average Number of Persons employed in and about Coal Mines.

Year.

Great Britain.

Scotland.

19131,104,400139,400
19251,102,400126,000
1935769,50083,500

2. Average Cash earnings of all wage-earners employed.

Year.

Great Britain.

Scotland.

£s.d.£s.d.
19138200Not available
192513115914059
19351188113495

The particulars of cash earnings shown above do not include the value of allowances in kind which amounted on the average in 1935 to £4 16s. 0d. in Great Britain and 7s. 4d. in Scotland.

Engineering And Shipbuilding

1.— Numbers Employed.

The Table below shows the estimated numbers of men, insured under the Unemployment Insurance Acts, in employment at a date near the end of June in the years 1925 and 1935. Comparable statistics are not available for the year 1913:

Year.

Great Britain.

Scotland.

Engineering.

1925743,00087,000
1935718,00070,000

Shipbuilding and Ship-repairing.

1925133,00038,000
193577,00019,000

Note.—The figures for 1925 relate to men aged 18 years and over, those for 1935 to men aged 18–64 years. They are obtained by deducting the numbers recorded as unemployed at a date near the end of June from the estimated numbers insured at the beginning of July. The figures for engineering relate to general, electrical, marine and constructional engineering, and the motor vehicle, cycle, and aircraft industry.

2.— Wages.

Statistics are not available as to the average wages of workmen in the engineering and shipbuilding industries in 1913, 1925, or 1935.

Agriculture

Vegetable Production (Acreage)

asked the Minister of Agriculture whether he will state the acreage under cultivation in the United Kingdom, during the years 1931 and 1935, respectively, of cucumbers, salads, market-garden peas, onions, tomatoes, and turnips?

The particulars required are available in greater detail in respect of the year 1935 than for 1931. So far as figures are available they are given in the following statement:

1913.1932.1933.1934.1935.1936 Jan.-June.
Cwts.Cwts.Cwts.Cwts.Cwts.Cwts.
Total imports into the United Kingdom22,439,24810,178,11815,984,78315,476,30117,097,4866,982,038
s.d.s.d.s.d.s.d.s.d.s.d.
Average declared value per cwt.72510485041150
of which entered atCwts.Cwts.Cwts.Cwts.Cwts.Cwts.
Glasgow (including Bowling)1,080,100192,390399,799510,394593,252230,315
Leith (including Cockenzie, Fisherrow and Morrison's Haven)2,495,700429,3921,105,6011,153,4821,032,392521,893
Inverness (including Ballachulish, Burghead, Findhorn, Fort William, Invergordon, Isle of Skye, Lossiemouth, Portmahomack and Portree)179,500150,360115,059134,74289,715
Aberdeen (including Newburgh)144,70011,74632,51362,033150,01746,711
Note.—The figures for 1935 and 1936 are provisional.

Acreage under certain vegetables on agricultural holdings in the United Kingdom in 1931 and 1935.
Description of vegetable.Acreage in the United Kingdom.
1931.1935.
Peas, picked green57,445 (a)90,528 (a) (b)
Onions1,676 (c)1,836 (c)
Turnips and Swedes1,018,677883,171
Celery7,310 (a)6,350 (a)
Tomatoes grown in the open(d)363(a)
Tomatoes grown in glasshouses(d)1,389 (a)
Lettuce(d)4,449 (a)
Cucumbers(d)(d)
(a) Figures relate to England and Wales only.
(b) Peas for canning or packeting or packed green for market.
(c) Figures relate to Great Britain only.
(d) No figures available.

Barley (Imports And Prices)

asked the President of the Board of Trade (1) whether he will state the quantity of barley arriving at Glasgow, Leith, Lossiemouth, and other important Scottish ports during the years 1913, 1932 to 1935, and the first six months of 1936;(2) the quantity and average price of barley imported into the United Kingdom during the years 1913, 1932 to 1935, and the first six months of 1936?

The following table shows the total quantity and the average declared value (c.i.f.) of barley imported into the United Kingdom during the under-mentioned periods, distinguishing the quantity entered at the ports specified: